Demons sort of are like physical, I guess, whereas ghosts, we’re not quite sure if they can touch you or not. Yeah, they can touch me anytime. Whoa, whoa, keep it PG-19, all right? Welcome to “Trevor Talks Too Much,” the show. Well, it’s in the title, I talk too much. I’m your host, Trevor Evarts, master baker, mythical soft boy, eater of Totino’s Pizza Rolls. I’m not joking, I found a bag of Totino’s Pizza Rolls in the kitchen’s freezer, and I went home and ate all of them last night, and they were very good. Today I spoke to Elsie Fisher, the actress. She is the star of the movie, “Eighth Grade,” you’ve probably heard of it, great movie. And she also just released a new movie called “My Best Friend’s Exorcism,” which I’ve also seen, very good as well. And she’s honestly, what a delight, what a lovely person. We talked about all sorts of stuff, we talked about the broader horror genre, some of our favorite movies in it. We talked about animation, some of our favorite animation, we talked about some heated debates. Would you rathers, when it comes to some different horror villains that you would rather face. But it was a great time, we had a great time. Jamie, this is the part of the show where I go on a tangent for a couple minutes. He’s telling me. And it, like, kind of started out when we first did it, we were like, “Oh, wouldn’t it be funny if when we start the show, I just go on a tangent?” Then Jamie’s like, “Oh, Trevor, we gotta get-” I feel like it shifted. “we gotta go back to the show,” it has shifted. But the problem is then is that then you always ask me, when we’re doing the intro, you’re like, “All right, you got a story to tell?” Well, you didn’t ask me today if I had a story to tell, and so I didn’t even think of it. And now I don’t know what to say now. Do you have any stories that you wanna tell? Well, so “Survivor” has started. No next, story. Not interested. I’m also going to Halloween Horror Nights. That’s cool, I haven’t been to Halloween Horror Nights. Ever? I have lived in LA now for, four years I’ve lived in LA, I’ve not been to Halloween Horror Nights once. It’s, I like it. It’s cool because it’s, like, if you’ve been to, for anyone out there, if you’ve been to other horror things, like if you went to Knots, or you went to Six Flags, like, Universal’s movie-quality, and there’s so many scares, like, everywhere. Yeah, the problem is, is it doesn’t feel real enough for me. And also when it seems like a big headache, because it’s such a big thing that, like, you go and there’s just so many people, like, I don’t know. I don’t wanna deal with that. Plus I’d probably only be able to go on the weekends because of like, work. And so going on a weekend feels like it would just be awful because there’s so many people. But also, I mean, I grew up just going down to the middle of nowhere, Idaho, into fields and getting scared. Like it feels weird to go to Universal Studios where I’ve got like, “Oh, the Wizarding World of Harry Potter, and the Minion’s ‘Despicable Me’ Ride.” And then it’s just, “Oh, and now there’s a guy with the chainsaw there.” Well, ’cause it’s very different, like, they completely change what it looks like. Yeah. And then if, when you’re on the tram ride, they make you get off the tram and you have to- Oh, really? Yeah, and you have to, at like, the Bates Motel part, and then you get to walk around, which is cool. So there’s scares, but then you’re walking around like, the “War of the Worlds,” like, set and stuff. Okay, wait, that is really cool, I didn’t realize that. The studio, the back lot tour, is one of my favorite things to do at Universal, just in general. I just think it’s, one, it’s relaxing, it’s a long ride. You know, you get on, you sit there, you get the funny guy up at the front, the driver is driving the tram and he’s making, he’s cracking his little jokes. You know, you got the “Jaws” shark coming out of the water. Get a little drizzle. Yeah. No, it’s just a fun little entertaining ride. But that’s cool that you get off of it and you walk around. That would definitely be- Yeah. I want to go. Again, it just seems like a headache. It is expensive, and you do have to wait in lines for like, the mazes, but they look all pretty cool. This year is a lot of clown-based… Por que? I don’t know, but- Is there like a- There’s a killer clowns from outer space. Okay. But they also have like a weekend, they have scare zones and so they have like, kind of like The Weekend music playing, and like, zombies. Okay, well, this is a lovely conversation. Yay, we’ve switched roles, we’ve come full circle. I’m the hero, I’m the hero now. Everybody, very special guest today, Elsie Fisher, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. This is really fun. Nice jazz hands. Thank you. Those are beautiful. Elsie Fisher, you are an actress. You would say that’s the main thing that you do? Yeah, I think so, you know, I sort of dabble. I’m sort of a little scamp. A little scamp? A silly, goofy goober, you could say. Yeah, yeah, you know, I dabble. Okay, okay. Any other words you’d use to describe yourself for the audience? You know, flawless, talented, no, I don’t know. I mean, you know, I’m just like, you know, going around doing stuff. You’re just vibing, you’re just hanging out vibing. You, I watched your movie that came, is out now on Amazon Prime, right? Let’s go! Yeah, that’s huge, I watched it, I loved it. Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. I’m gonna, we’re probably gonna talk a lot of horror movies today, because it was a horror movie called “My Best Friend’s Exorcism.” And you can tell by the title, plot, pretty, pretty self-explanatory. Your best friend got exercised by you. By me. In the movie. No less. Which was pretty cool. Yeah, I know. And that’s, like, such a career goal, I feel like too- Yeah. as an actor. Are you big into the horror genre? Yeah, you know, I sort of, like, fell into actually doing it on accident, ’cause I’ve done sort of a couple horror projects. And then I felt like it was my duty to, you know, be knowledgeable on it. Yeah. Be able to pay homage correctly or whatever. It definitely was like, it was a very fun, like, I know horror is tough, ’cause I watch a lot of horror movies. And I feel like there’s a lot of, it’s very hard to make something that feels original, and also isn’t, like, just boring, like, while, like, it’s scary, it has those scary moments, but it doesn’t feel like something that’s been done a million times. Which I guess you could say about any movie genre. But I thought it was really fun, I had a good time watching it. Thank you, I mean, I think the book was so fun too, ’cause it’s based on a novel of the same name. And, you know, that had such a sort of beloved fan base. I hope we’re doing ’em right with this one. Yeah, was it nerve wracking, like, playing a character that people have already come to know and love through a book? Yeah, a little bit, you know? And that’s not something I’d ever had experience with before. But, you know, I referenced the book a lot. And I found, actually as an actor, like, making a character, you know, the book was like my Bible. ‘Cause any questions I have, you go back, and you, like, read it. So that was great, very helpful. For sure, I mean, that probably would, I can imagine that would be a big help, is just being able to- Yeah, yeah. If you just have a script in front of you that’s written by a writer, it’s like, “Well, they wrote it, so I have to, like, go to them directly if I have questions, or just figure it out.” But if you have a whole book that you can look at- Exactly. that’s huge. Exactly, yeah. That’s huge. Do you want to keep doing horror things? Is that, like, something that you’re passionate about? I really enjoy it, I don’t know. You know, I think I never aim to do horror specifically, I guess. Yeah. I’m more, like project oriented. Yeah. But I think the genre’s so interesting, and it sort of keeps evolving out of necessity. Yeah. ‘Cause what people are scared of sort of changes over the years. That’s true. Yeah, so. That’s very true. I have a big love of it. Well, I honestly found that the scariest part of the movie, to me, was just teenagers. That was the most horrifying part to me, was the fact that teenagers are real, and they exist, and they scare me. Yeah, yeah, understandable. Sitting there the whole time, like, “I can deal with demons, like, they’re fine. But God, teenagers, that’s frightening.” Uh-uh, too much. Too much. Crossing a line. You were in “Eighth Grade” I was. Bo Burnham’s movie. Yeah, I did the middle school year in real life too. Yeah. Believe it or not. Really, you actually went to 8th grade? Yeah. In real life? In a real school, I know. That’s so weird. Get a load of that. What? Hey wait, I did that too, can I be in the, can I be in “Ninth Grade”? The next Bo Burnham hit movie. We’ll see, we’ll see, I’ll put you on the roster. Really? No way, oh my God. Have you ever, so have you ever used a Ouija board in real life? ‘Cause you used a Ouija board in the movie. That’s true, which also, in-between takes, Amiah Miller, who plays my titular best friend, was very good about making sure we reset. ‘Cause in, I think in the actual scene, I don’t know if we ever actually do the goodbye. Yeah, you don’t, I noticed that. But we don’t. So yeah, so in-between takes, she would always move it there. Really? Yeah, and she brought, like sage and stuff. Oh, my God. She was prepared. That’s good, honestly, that’s huge. I know, right? I feel like you hear about a lot of horror movie, or a lot of horror stories, filming horror movies, like, on sets. There’s creepy happenings, so. Yeah. So I’m glad we had someone looking out for us. I definitely, if I was ever, like, in a horror movie, or on a horror movie set, I would be circulating so many rumors. I’d be like, “Oh my God, I heard this banging back in the green room. I swear I was alone in there, and I started hearing whispers.” Like I would totally, I’d try and freak out as many people as possible. Oh yeah, just like, freak everyone out. Yeah but I’ve heard some of the stories about, like, yeah, you have these weird movie sets and like, things are happening, and people are dying. And it’s like, is that a coincidence? Or like, do people just notice it more? Yeah. Because it’s a horror movie. I know, ’cause maybe that’s just like what being on a set’s like. Yeah. I feel like people die all the time. Exactly. What’s been your favorite, like, thing that you’ve done? It’s probably a terrible question to ask, but do you have a favorite project that you’ve worked on? That’s hard to say. Yeah, I mean, I can say this, it’s not a terrible question. You’re like, “You’re right, it’s a bad question.” No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, I feel very fortunate, I mean, especially this film and “Eighth Grade,” those are definitely very special. But I got to have a little part on season two, or season three, of “Barry” this year. Yeah. And that, I mean, oh my God, oh my gosh, that was such a blast. Yeah, what is Bill Hader like in real life? He’s great, I mean, I think he’s like, he’s just like very chill. Yeah. You know? I don’t think he’s really someone who’s putting on too much of a persona. Yeah. He’s just like a chill dude. He seems like a chill dude. Dad vibes, you know? You know, since, like, all the stuff he’s done on “SNL,” I’m like, you can’t just, like, be that naturally funny all the time and not just be, like, a chill guy. Like I get that “SNL”‘s written or whatever, but I mean, he’s funny. I don’t know, he’s pretty silly, man. He’s a funny guy, he’s a funny guy. You have said in the past that you, like, wanted to voice a character on “Genshin Impact,” is that true? I mean- Are you a “Genshin Impact” player? I can’t say I am, but I do think that would give me immense amounts of clout. So like, you know, I think it’s gotta happen. It would. Shout out “Genshin,” put me in it. Oh no, “Genshin.” Aren’t they, they’re starting, like, some sort of like, they’re doing “Genshin 2” or new things. They released an MMO, they released a “Genshin Impact” MMO, which is crazy to me, and I don’t know how it works. Is it not an MMO? What is it? So an MMO, for those of you who don’t know, is a Massively Multiplayer Online game. Which means that you’re online with a bunch of other people all at the same time. The the MMO that I play, Jamie, you know it, you love it, Jamie. You love it when I bring it up, “RuneScape.” Oh. Yeah, yeah, I’m a big “RuneScape” guy. Very good, very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s actually been quite a few podcasts since you’ve mentioned. Jamie gets mad at me when I talk about video games. Not video games, but “RuneScape,” it was like- Why “RuneScape” in particular? Because it was every- Why the hate? every podcast. Are you saying that people don’t care about “RuneScape”? No, actually you’ve gotten quite a few comments on certain episodes. People love “RuneScape,” that’s what you’re saying. Give the people what they want. Give them what they want. Okay, hold on, let me talk about “RuneScape” for a minute, no. It’s been, no, hey, it’s been like five podcasts you haven’t mentioned it, you have a free pass. I’ve already talked, there’s nothing to talk about. It’s a terrible game, and there’s nothing to talk about. It’s terrible, but it’s also amazing. Yeah. You know, it’s everything. Anyway, back to “Genshin Impact,” that game is the cause for a lot of children and early gambling addictions. Yeah, I know. Do you wanna talk about the gambling addictions that are coming out of “Genshin Impact”? I mean, we should, that’s important. I mean, I used to “Overwatch” back in the day or whatever. Yeah. Go on the old “Overwatch.” And that was a big thing, ’cause they had gambling. Yeah, no. I used to like, I used to beg my… I would do chores around the house and be like, “Mom, can I have a $20?” Oh my God, for loot boxes? So I can get loot crates. No, yeah. So it’s real, it truly is like a gambling addiction. It is, it all started with “CS:GO.” Oh God. It all started with “CS:GO” and crates. And like, in high school, there was a period of time, I was like, “I want to just, I want to hit loot boxes. I want to, I wanna unlock crates, I want to get a knife.” Like it is gambling. Yeah. They just banned gambling on Twitch though, that’s pretty big. Oh yeah, I just heard about that, it’s crazy. It was pretty big news, pretty big story. Yeah, good for them, I mean they’re… Do you, are you familiar with Hasan? I am, I am. I love Hasan. I watch, like, I don’t watch Hasan streams a lot, ’cause he stream during the day, and I like, have a job or whatever. Ah, boring. Yeah, so boring, so cringe. But I was like, there was, during that week, I was watching so many Hasan streams, and it was just so much to me. Yeah, I know, I feel like he’s pretty good at like, keeping people, the people up to date on what’s, all the happenings. Yeah, he’s basically just like the freaking “CNN” of Twitch. He just covers the news. Yeah, that’s a way to put it, that’s the way to put it. He just covers the news. But you know, he’s a good guy, I love Hasan. You’ve done some things actually that I wasn’t familiar with until Jamie started… I was about to take credit for research. You can’t, I mean, you can. Well, I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna try and pull the- The tension in this room right now. No, I’m not gonna try… Jamie, while I do, I have other jobs here that I do, other than this show, which means that I don’t have a ton of free time. So Jamie will like, when we have a guest on, she’ll do a lot of research on the guest, and then give me a sheet with facts. I didn’t realize you were in “Despicable Me.” I barely realize either, pal. Well, you know, I mean I just say that, ’cause like, I did the movies when I was like, you know, five years old. Oh my God- The first one I was five- you were that young? and then nine. And then they didn’t have me back for the third, ’cause I think my voice probably dropped about eight octaves. That’s gotta be tough, when you’re making sequels years down the road and… Yeah, well, voiceover specifically, ’cause you know, they don’t usually age-up the characters or whatever. Yeah, I wonder why they brought Steve Carell back? I know, right? His voice has changed a lot. Probably, whoa. Gru. Did you get to, so when you do, like, voice acting, did you get to interact a lot with the other cast members? Or was it mostly you come in, and do your lines, and like skedaddle? Yeah, mostly the latter. Okay. Sort of getting in there and getting out of there. Get paid in Twinkies or whatever. Oh, no. No, but I mean, I think that’s sort of fun though, in a way too, ’cause then, I don’t know, it’s a different experience. Yeah. I also, I can’t say I’ve really done, like, much voiceover since. So I don’t have a full perspective on the industry, but. Yeah, do you have a, would you say you have a preference? Between, like, traditional and then voiceover? Oh, I mean, for me personally, traditional. Just ’cause I think, like, I appreciate animation so much for sure. You know, I think where I shine best is, you know, in front of the camera. In front of the camera! Yeah, give me that. Do you have a favorite animated film? Ooh. It can be anything, any genre. Yeah, I’m trying to think. Like literally, honestly, maybe like “Wallace and Gromit.” “Wallace and Gromit.” The Case of the Were-Rabbit. Ooh, wow. Good one. Yeah, that was a sleeper pick, I was not expecting that. No, I mean, I think sort of everything that the studio put out. Yeah. I’m a big fan of. Remember Shaun The Sheep? I’m a big… “Chicken Run.” “Chicken Run.” Oh, yeah, yes, that’s a classic. You know, I think I used to be, as a kid, scared of “Chicken Run,” because I accidentally woke up in the middle of the night one time when I was a kid, and I didn’t know any better, and I put on Cartoon Network. But Cartoon Network was Adult Swim at night. Oh yes. And then I accidentally watched “Robot Chicken.” And there was, like, an episode of “Robot Chicken” where, like, Mario and Luigi go to Raccoon City from “Resident Evil” and just get slaughtered by zombies. And then I had nightmares, and then I think I associated the two things as a child and I was like, “I don’t wanna watch ‘Chicken Run,’ that’s scary.” That’s so funny, that’s so sad and so funny. I swear, I literally, I just like woke, and I was a kid, you know, when you wake up as a kid, you don’t, like, I didn’t have a phone. I didn’t like, have a clock in my room, I was just like, “Oh, I woke up, I’m awake.” You know, and then I turn on the TV. I’m trying to think of, like, what my favorite animated movie would be. ‘Cause that’s a terrible question that I probably couldn’t answer. Well, ’cause there’s also, within animation itself, there’s so many different, you know… Yeah, oh yeah, you’ve got so many different kinds. There’s, like, stop-motion, traditional animation. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Maybe “Princess Mononoke.” Oh, that’s a really good pick, that’s on my list of fave movies. That’s that’s a good one. Yeah, I just love Miyazaki, any Miyazaki movies. I just love them. Yeah, oh my God. God, I’m trying to… Yeah, that was a terrible question. No, no, no, it was good. You’re into Dungeons & Dragons. Yeah, I’ve also dabbled in that, that old thing. It’s been a minute, I think, you know, I am struggling to find some pals, too, who are into playing it, you know? I’ll play it with you. Hey oh, let’s go! Yeah, as long as I can be the useless bard, that’s the only thing I know how to do. Oh, c’mon, that’s my whole thing. Wow, okay, all right, all right. Anyway, whoever heard of a party with two bards, man? You can’t do that. I can be a druid, I guess. Wow, wow. Jamie has no clue what we’re talking about. Get wrecked, non-nerd. Oh, no, okay, do you remember we were talking about Dungeons & Dragons on the podcast, and you’re telling me, like, what characters you think I would play. And then literally two days later, my roommate’s like, “I got a starter set, can we, like, learn how to play?” I was like, “Yes, I want to play.” No way! Yeah. ‘Cause he told me I didn’t have enough nerdy friends, and I was like, “Well, no, I’m down, but like my, I don’t know…” Aren’t they making like a “Dungeons & Dragons” movie? I think so. With Chris Pine? It’s got, like, Sadie Sink in it maybe? Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I saw it, Jamie, I’m not crazy, right? You’re not crazy, I’m looking it up. Yeah, I remember seeing the trailer. Is that still happening? ‘Cause I know that was, like, a big deal when I saw the trailer on YouTube. D&D movie. Yes, it is happening. I feel like I should have brought my laptop. It is Chris Pine. Do you wanna borrow mine? It’s Chris Pine and he plays a bard. I could find one, I could go steal one from someone. It’s fine, guys, seriously. Anything you want me to look up? Yeah, let’s, like Rick Astley. Rick Astley. See, the first thing that comes up when you click Rick Ashley on YouTube maybe. What is this? I’m putting this on the podcast. What is this? Wait, I don’t get it, hold on, there’s an ad. Wait, I’m muting the ad. Wait, I don’t know what this is, what is Rick Astley? Oh my God, you gotta play it out loud. Oh! So you started acting very young. Yes, yeah. I mean, you said you were five when you voiced Agnes. I was, and now I’m 45. 45. I know. You look great. Thank you. Oh my God, you look so great for 45. Was it something that you, well, I don’t know, how old are kids when they start to, like, be able to perceive reality? Is that, like, three? Yeah, when does consciousness start, you know? Consciousness? I wanna say, according to science, consciousness does not start till you’re about six. Really, okay, ’cause I was gonna say I don’t think I remember anything, like, pre-seven. I don’t know, how old was I… How old are you when you’re in the 1st grade? Six. How old are 1st graders? For whatever reason, I’m really good at keeping track of how old people are in grades. Six or seven years old. Wow. Wow. Yeah, it’s a I’m hidden talent of mine. I’m the exact opposite. If you ask me how old, like, a 5th grader is, I’d be like… 10. I don’t know, I wouldn’t know. 5th graders are 10? Yeah. That seems so wrong. I thought they would’ve at least been like 11, 12. I mean, I guess it depends on when your birthday is. You’re 10/11. 5th graders, no, that tracks based on my memories. That’s crazy, ’cause I feel like 5th grade was yesterday. Okay. And the idea that I was 10. Yeah. What? Double digits, baby. Oh, my gosh, yeah. Oh my God, do you remember your 10th birthday party, and you were like, “I’m so old now, this is awesome”? Oh, I actually do. When you got that second digit? Yeah. The only reason… ‘Cause I don’t think I remember any of my birthdays very vividly. The only reason I remember my 10th birthday is because my parents used my 10th birthday as an excuse to go to Ireland and see U2 live in Croke Park. Oh my God. In Dublin. That’s dope though. Yeah, no, it was amazing. But like also my parents taking a 10-year-old to Ireland, and then, like, walking around Temple Bar at 2:00 in the morning, there was just drunk Irish people everywhere, just like, pissing in the street. Like it was great, I mean, it was a great experience and I had a lot of fun. But that was definitely like, “We’re gonna go to Ireland for your 10th birthday.” And then it was like, “Oh, you wanted to see U2.” Like I grew up and I’m like, “Now I get that that was 100% a trip for you.” Yep, yep. But still was a fun experience. Were they so hyped when that, when we all forcefully got that U2 album on the iPhone? They were like, “Yes, yes!” No, that’s the funny part is that I didn’t get it, because we already had the U2 album. Oh my God. When a U2 album, like, pops up on my phone, ’cause I still share an iTunes account with my family. If a U2 album pops up on my phone, I’m like, “Oh, there’s a new U2 album, and my dad just got it right away, ’cause he’s a big U2 guy.” And then all that stuff, for sure, coming out about like, people automatically getting it downloaded. And I was like, “Oh, like, I don’t get that,” ’cause they automatically get downloaded to my phone anyway. Why was it, like, almost impossible to delete though? I don’t know, that’s one thing to download it, but, like, you can never get rid of it? Like, I tried and I thought I did. And now it’s gonna be in the shuffle of all my songs forever? Yeah. I don’t wanna listen to your crappy song about volcanoes, sorry. But there was like one song that was like, a rip-off of “Pompeii” or something, and I’m like- Dad, I’m really sorry about Elsie, okay? I’m really not sorry. Really sorry. Sorry, sorry not sorry. It took me a long time to be able to listen to U2. Like I haven’t been able to, like… I just started recently being able to, like, listen to a U2 song and not be like, “God, this is the only thing I listened to from the ages of, like, zero to 13”, you know? “Sunday Bloody Sunday,” great song. There’s others. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, “Vertigo.” “How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb” is great. It’s so funny, because “Vertigo” is usually what I get when I listen to U2, so. Okay, Elsie, what a hater. I’m sorry. No, I get it. My hating’s fake, I can’t… Like I haven’t even listened to U2 enough to hate them. No, everybody hates U2 because of the album. I thought it was because, like, Bono’s obnoxious. I don’t think, is Bono obnoxious? He’s not obnoxious, but I guess because, you know, I love the “South Park” episode about him. Okay, so if you’re basing whether or not someone’s obnoxious based on how they’re portrayed on either “South Park” or “Family Guy,” then that doesn’t count. I know. ‘Cause if that’s the case, then everybody is the worst person ever. I think that’s- Every celebrity. such a compliment. Except for Radiohead, I guess. Except for Radiohead. Such a compliment to be made fun of, though, by “South Park,” I think. Right, right, that’s probably, that’s, you know. Did you you see the stuff about Chloe Grace Moretz? Oh, I did. Oh yeah. How she, like, went into hiding, because “Family Guy” made fun of her, because of, I guess she has, like, long legs. Well, I don’t know, were they making fun of her specifically though? ‘Cause I thought it was just that she was getting compared to that one… Oh, to like, the Peter Griffin character. That’s what I thought, but I could be totally off. No, I think you’re right. I don’t think she was ever actually like, portrayed, I think it was, like, the female Peter Griffin with the long legs, which is hilarious. But still, I mean, I feel really bad that she’s had to deal with that. Yeah. That stings. Oh, okay, we’re gonna play Would You Rather. Oh, fun. We’re gonna play Would You Rather, horror edition. Ooh. I’ve been looking forward to this because I have some very strong opinions. Very strong opinions about the questions I’m gonna ask you. Okay, I’ll be interested to hear. So I hope you have strong opinions too. Let’s go. All right, Would You Rather, horror edition, first one. Would you rather face Freddy Kruger or Jason? Oh, I think Jason, right? Okay, right, yeah. Because Freddy Kruger is like legit a nightmare man. Versus like, Jason’s kind of like, a guy. Yeah, Jason is just like a dude. He’s just like- Right? Yeah, like a freaky dude. Like I wouldn’t wanna face him- No, yeah. if given the choice. Like, ideally you wouldn’t run into him. But like, Freddy Kruger just shows up in your nightmares, and can like hurt you while you’re dreaming, that freaks me out. Yeah. So like, that one’s easy for me. Yeah, that one’s pretty easy. Glad we’re on the same page. They get harder, they get harder. Okay. Okay. The last, well, no, not to me they don’t, to me they’re very clear cut. I see. But we’ll see. Would you rather face a murder or a ghost/demon? Now Jamie wrote this “ghost/demon,” and I disagreed with her, that those can be categorized in the same way. But we can talk about that after. Well, I mean, I don’t know. I think there’s sort of a possession element to both of them. Yeah. That they share. I feel like ghosts are more haunty, demons are more possess-y. Right, and like, demons sort of are like, physical, I guess, whereas ghosts, we’re not quite sure if they can touch you or not. Yeah. They can touch me anytime. Whoa, whoa, keep it PG-19, all right? All right, so murderer or ghost/demon? But again, I think murderer because. They’re real. I mean, yeah. But also like a ghost demon, they could go through walls or whatever versus yeah. Murderer, I could, I could ostensibly sort of hide out in a shelter and be fine versus like a ghost and demon. We don’t know what, we don’t know what they could do. They’re other worldly. That’s true. I just, things, things in horror, as I get older, horror movies scare me more that are like, things that could actually happen, like weird, stalker-y, murder, just like people breaking into houses and like stalking you. Like that weirds me out. I think I’d probably rather face, I feel like I’d rather face, well, I don’t know. I mean, I do have the power of God and anime on my side, so I think I could take on a ghost or a demon. Whoa, that’s bringing out a reference. I have the power of God and anime. Getting a little old here. Yeah, sorry, Boomer. Yeah. No, I think I’d rather face a ghost or a demon. I think I could take him on. Okay. I got a holy water guy, you know? Yeah. I don’t know. I mean, I am trained in exorcisms. I’ll call up the Lemon Brothers. Am I right? Reference. Reference, Reference. Reference. You wouldn’t get it. Well, unless you watch the movie, you should watch the movie. Those, okay sidebar. Those characters were so funny to me. Oh my God. Because like, I grew up, growing up I was like, you know, going to church, private Christian school, the whole shebang. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, interesting. And so like, I resonated so hard with just like, the weight lifting for God type of shtick. Like that is so funny to me. And the fact that like the youngest, like awkward brother just like wants to do a possession. So, Perfect. Yeah. So Perfect. Wants to do an exorcism. Hilarious. Protein loading. Yep. You wouldn’t get it. Watch the movie. Oh my God. Stop bullying her, man. Bullying who? No, I’m bullying the people. Oh, them! The listeners. It looks like you’re pointing at her. No, Jamie’s seen the film. Wow. Whoa, I’m sorry. There is a lot of tension in the audience. No, there’s, I’ve just been feeling a lot of tension. It’s been… It’s a bit. Yeah. No. Is it a bit? Sometimes. Most of the time. Sometimes? I don’t know. Do you feel personally targeted by me? Whoa. Do we need to talk to HR? No. Definitely not. Okay, good. We’ll finish the game. We’ll finish the game. Yeah. Yeah. This one to me is the most clear cut, honestly out of all three. Okay. I think the last one was probably the hardest to discern for me, even though I sounded like very confident. This one is way too easy. And I’m curious if you agree. Would you rather face Predator or the Alien? Like Xenomorph. Oh, that’s a, I mean, that’s a good one. And also, I mean, they, they faced off each other, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. In a very famous film that I’ve not seen. I believe it’s a weird title or something. Alien versus Predator, I think. Yeah, just kinda wacky. Yeah. That’s the one. That’s the one. The weird title. Sorry, hard to remember. I think I, I guess Xenomorph, ’cause I feel like Predators sort of got more intelligence. Right? It’s also really been a minute since I’ve watched either of them, so, take my answer with a grain of salt. But off the top of my head, that’s, that’s sort of. Very interesting. My instinct. I would much rather face Predator. Yeah. Predator is a perennial loser. That guy has never beat anyone. He’s an idiot, loser jerk. He is! Dude, he’s so dumb. The fact that he’s supposed to be this like, elite hunter, like he’s literally called the Predator and Arnold Schwarzenegger can just rub some mud on his face and all of a sudden the Predator is useless. Like, how dumb are you? How bad at hunting things are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, this isn’t even a conversation about which movie is the best one, because… No. That’s clear cut for sure. Yeah. Well which, which Alien movie is your favorite? ‘Cause we, we all agree that Alien is a better movie, right? Yeah. Alien. Alien is the first one. Aliens is the second one. Alien is more of, I’m trying to remember now, which one’s, it’s been so long since I’ve seen them. Love Sigourney Weaver though. Alien is more horror and Aliens is more action, right? Yeah. I’m more into the horror element. Yeah. I feel like Aliens is more like guns fighting. You know, we’re kicking . It’s, you know, it works, but, you know. Yeah. No, I love Alien. But yeah, I think Alien’s way scarier and I would not wanna fight him cause he’s up in the vents. He could be here right now. There are a lot of vents up here. There are. But Predator could be just standing right behind you, invisible. He’s not. That doesn’t… I’d hear his little, his little clicking. His little… Oh my God. That was terrible. What was terrible? Hold on, I gotta get a wet throat. I used to be able to do. He’s not always like that. No. What do you mean I’m not always like this? Getting your wet throat ready. Okay. You didn’t have to make it dirty. I, that’s what you said. Whoa. Who said anything about dirty? You went there. Yeah. You two continue to have your conversation. No. I’m gonna sit here in silence for a moment. I didn’t mean to put you off Trevor. This just reminded me of my parents’ marriage. It did turn into a standup comedy routine then. Yeah. Hey yo, my mom, my dad. Yeah. I’m great. Are we bringing up bad memories? No, no, no. I’m, I’m very well adjusted, thank you. Our little repartee, our little back and forth. No, no. I love it. You love it. I think divorce is funny too. ‘Cause like, it’s a good thing also. Like divorces are supposed to happen. Yeah, like… You know, like, you could never really be sad about a divorce, ’cause like… If people stay together when they should not, it is so much worse. Yeah. Equally as funny, I think. But definitely worse. If a sitcoms have taught me anything. I mean, marriage is pretty silly, right? Like signing a piece of paper that says we’re now legally married. Right, yeah. Like, it’s, it’s a pretty silly concept. Yeah. I mean I think like, like if done well, it’s nice. I think it’s a nice thing. Yeah. But I think, you know, I believe in the concept of being with someone, you know, and having like a life partner. But the fact that there’s a, that all it takes to be like just dating or you know, together casually and married is signing a piece of paper. Right, right. With a witness there. Why do you need a witness? Yeah. And it could just be some guy. It could just be some random off the street, doesn’t even have to be someone you know. Yeah. She’s like, Hey, you saw us sign this piece of paper, right? All right, you sign it too. Now we have to share all of our things. Yeah. But then I think to that, like divorces then kind of sillier. ‘Cause then you have to like unsign it. Unsign it. You have to unsign it and pay, you have to pay money. You have to pay money. Yeah. To not be with someone. That’s hilarious. That’s really, truly funny. Yeah. You can’t just be like goodbye. No. Like you have to take it back and it’s like, that’s crazy. Yeah. How’d we get on the topic of divorce? ‘Cause we are… ‘Cause we’re a divorce, married couple according to Elsie. Yeah. I think I feel that though. Once divorced. Wait, why is everybody in this room getting this vibe except for me? We have a very healthy relationship Jamie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah? I dunno, I can’t say I’ve been here for much of it, but… Okay. All right. It’s a fun relationship either way. Am I the villain or am I the hero? I don’t think anyone’s in the villain. Isn’t that the question we all ask ourselves. I really want.. Each and every day. I really want to be the villain but sadly I feel like… Oh, come on. You’ve got protagonist vibes. What’s your favorite art that you’ve done? Oh my gosh. I mean I have, well, if we’re to answer honestly though, I’ve been shooting these short films with some of my friends. Oh really? Yeah. And that’s been kinda sick. Wait, that’s awesome. Yeah. Have you watched “How To with John Wilson”? How To with… I don’t think so. Oh, that’s a good show. But he like, he sort of strings together these like, visual poems that he shoots in New York. But I like sort of took that and then applied it to a narrative story. That’s awesome. That we shot in black and white. It’s pretty sick. That feels like when like a professional chef or something like goes home and then just like cooks themselves a really nice meal. It’s like you’re a professional and then you just get to do the same thing, but like, fun with your friends on the side, you know? Exactly. That’s epic. I’ve been working on a short film. Let’s go! Titled “My Dump ” Yeah. That’s a work progress, you know? Okay. Yeah, yeah. So. Is it color locked yet? Or are you taking notes? I don’t know what that means. It’s very early. It’s very early stages. Good, good, good. Yeah, yeah. You know, there’s some roof for flexibility. It’s a working title and it’s working hard. Mm. We, do You wanna do a, a scary Ma Lib together? Sure. I’d love that. Yeah? Does that sound like fun? Jamie’s got it. I got it. Are we’re gonna alternate? Is that how this works? You guys are gonna alternate. Elsie, would you like to give the first word or go first? I wanna do the first, no I’m kidding. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You’re the guest. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So the first word, I need an adjective. Let’s do mythical. Ooh. Okay. All right, all right. Trevor, also an adjective. Also an adjective. Wait, wait, wait. Okay. Hold on. I need to, I gotta question the rules here. Do our adjectives or words that we use have to be spooky? Or is the body spooky and we’re filling in? So, we don’t have to do inherently spooky things. No. Okay. Horny. Okay. Great. We’re off to a good start. Another adjective. Another adjective. It’s a very descriptive matter. Why, like, every time I put on the spot, I’m like, what are words? Yeah. Right. No, I mean, let’s go spooky. Okay, good. That’s good. Trevor, we’re looking for an animal. An animal. Red panda. Okay. That’s a good one. Like it. That’s a good pick. A noun. Oh, let’s go foot. Nice. Yes. Yeah. Let’s go. Let’s go foot. Let’s go. All right. All right, Trevor. Adjective. Bussin’. Is that an adjective? Yeah. Like the pie was bussin’. Is that not what an adjective is? Oh, no. That’s true. I feel like that’s more of a like a verb. Adverb. You know? Yeah. like it… It’s more. Bussing. Oh, is it a noun in jarred form? Bussy? Technically. Okay. Technically it would be a noun in jarred form. I’ll pick a different one. I’ll pick a different one. Yeah. Just so you know, keep that one in the rotating in the bank. Lovely. Okay. Very nice. Very nice. Nice. Tame. That’s an adverb. It is, but we’re gonna keep it. Food. Food. Oh, let’s do a dark chocolate cake. Ooh. Okay. Dark, Is that your favorite kind of cake? Yeah. Or like, you know, Yeah. Some sort of like flowerless chocolate cake situation. Okay. All right, all right. All right. All right. All right. Verb. Verb. Bussin’ Farted. Okay. All right. All right. Noun. Noun. Let’s do camera. All right. Now, adverb. Now adverb. Wait, what’s an ad verb? You just did one. Yeah, yeah. Lovely. Okay. Ends in ly. God, I didn’t realize this would be so hard. I don’t know. I know what is the English language even? Yeah, I don’t know my parts of speech. Pretty dumb. Actually it is. Pretty dumb if I might say. Corny. That’s not even an adverb. That’s an adjective. It’s not. Okay. I’m switching. Switch ’em. Switch ’em. Yes! There we go. I crushed it. Good. I crushed it. Thank you. All right. All right. Adjective. Adjective. Red. Red. Okay. Noun. Trevor. Toe. Okay. And then last one, another noun. Another noun. So dumb. Pen. Got it. All right. Okay. Oh God. So this is the Halloween Mad Lib story that you guys have created. Oh God. One mythical, horny night. No stars in sight. Thunder roared. A spooky Hello. Lightning flashed the trees below. I didn’t realize this was gonna rhyme. The sound of a red panda could be heard in the distance. It was Halloween night. I was dressed as a foot. Oh my God. My bag was beside me, filled with corny dark chocolate cake that I couldn’t wait to eat. Mm. As I farted up the driveway of a house to trick or treat, I wondered what type of camera I will get. I ring the doorbell. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Camera? That was the noun. That was a noun. Did you say camera? Yeah. Wait, am, do I have brain damage? Why do I not remember that at all? I don’t remember you saying the word camera at all. You, honestly, I don’t either, brother. I’m sorry. Keep going. Keep going. So funny. That’s so funny. That’s hilarious. I ring the doorbell with lovely. Now I’m thinking Lovely’s not even an adverb, but anyways. Don’t think it is an adverb. It opens and a red man wearing a toe looks at me. I scream trick or treat, smell my pen. Oh, we… Oh. We really bungled that up. Yeah. I think there’s something there. I’m seeing a movie. I think we could get a script. Yeah? I mean what’s, what are the odds that you fart up a driveway dressed as a foot and meet a red man that’s a toe? Wearing a toe. Wearing a toe. Let’s, Yeah. That is, okay. That’s probably the spookiest part about the thing is that he’s wearing a toe. Wearing a toe. Like what is this? The Amanda Show. Whoa. Get that reference anyone? Oh, yes. ‘Cause the big toe. Whoa. Wait, hold on. Okay. I actually don’t even really remember the reference. I just remember there was someone in a hot air balloon that had a toe. Yeah, that sounds about right. Didn’t someone lose their big toe in that show? Yes, it was from the skit Moody’s Point. And her mom, her dad lost the big toe. Children’s sketch comedy. A really strange place to be. Yeah. I feel like. Anyway. Thank you so much for coming on Elsie. What a pleasure. What a delight. Thank you for having me. This was lovely. Yeah? I love that we played so many games. Yeah. It was a good time. I feel like we need more of those. Plug things for the people to go and check out. Yeah. Go check out this movie. “My Best Friend’s Exorcism”. Check me out on the season two of the “Summer I Turned Pretty” coming soon. Sweet, sweet. Do it. Do it. Do it now. Elsie. What an amazing guest. Please go check out her new movie. “My Best Friend’s Exorcism”, genuinely enjoyed it. It’s a fun, campy, horror, demonic, exorcism coming of age story. It was, it was a lot of fun. It was very lovely. Had some scares, had some funnies. And yeah, I just really liked it. So definitely go check that out. Jamie, what do, what are your, what are your thoughts? I always like when like a guest comes in and I am a little bit surprised by what their personality is. Yeah. Because you, I mean with, especially with actors, you never really know because- Yeah. they could play a certain role all the time or they could do a certain thing or like, even in like normal interview settings, like I don’t, you know, when they’re on their press junket type thing. Yeah. And I just thought she was super cool. Yeah, she was. She was so cool. It’s funny to see, ’cause I think that sometimes people, I don’t know why, but I think sometimes people come in here and they think it’s gonna be like an interview when it’s not at all and it’s stupid. And I think it, the show started off and she felt like it was like kind of a normal interview and then she realized how stupid I am and she’s like, oh this is a funny guy. And then she just started kind of riffing a little bit, you know, loosen it up a little bit, which I thought was really fun. But she was amazing. Yeah. She did some good voices too. Yeah. What a sweet person. What a cool, cool person. Anyway. Useless fact. You wanna know another the useless fact, Jamie? Your favorite part of the day. Yes. Yeah? Jamie, did you know that sloths, the animal, the creature, can hold their breath longer than dolphins? Yeah. Yeah. And I know you’re thinking out there isn’t a dolphin a fish? No. You out there listener. Dolphins are mammals. Bet you didn’t even know that. They have a blow hole. And that’s a funny word. No. But yeah, sloths apparently can hold their breath longer than dolphins. And while sloths are normally seen as these creatures that you know, lounge around in trees and move very slowly, the animals’ arms are very long and strong and it makes them great swimmers. They do a little swimming, you know. Little you know, stay in shape. Sloths swimming I have actually seen like on a documentary and they are adorable. Yeah? Yeah. I didn’t know that they could hold their breath so long. Yeah, they can hold their breath for up to 40 minutes. According to the ZSL London Zoo. 40 minutes. That’s unreal. You know what I think it might be because holding your breath isn’t a matter of how much air, it’s about how much oxygen your body uses. So that’s why they say if you’re like, you know, if you ever happen to be trapped under water, you don’t wanna like thrash around because then you’re using up the oxygen that’s in your blood to, you know, create energy in your body. Mm. So like, if you just sit still underwater, you can generally hold your breath a lot… Like I think it’s a lot easier to hold your breath if you’re just like sitting underwater than it is to like hold your breath while swimming because you’re expending more oxygen. Mm. And so I think slots, like their bodies, like their metabolism is naturally just like so kind of slow and they just like, they just like don’t use up as much oxygen. That is complete speculation by the way. But it sounded really good. To be clear, that is complete, that is me with my general knowledge of how the world works, which is very little to be clear, speculated on why this could be the case. I’m probably wrong. Do your own research. It sounded pretty cool, but I didn’t know that dolphins can like, it’s saying the dolphins don’t hold their breath for very long then considerably speaking. Yeah. 30 minutes longer than a dolphin. So according to this, dolphins only hold their breath for 10 minutes. But also dolphins is swimming. They’re are using their oxygen. I mean, you think about the difference between like a whale and a dolphin. Whales move very slowly. You know, they kind of just coast along through the water. Dolphins are zipping around, you know, they’re just… Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah Day So I mean, according, and again, I could be completely stupid and this could be completely wrong, but that’s my theory. Not a scientist. Everyone you’ve probably heard of Sike, out kind of street wear brand of clothes. They’re really cool and I love them and it’s some of my favorite merch that we put out. But they have a new home. So now they’re living on mythical.com/sike along with all of our other merch. Well, they’re not, not in the same, it’s like a different section of the website for the Sike merch. But it’s no longer at the old web address that you used to go to to get Sike. So if you want any of the new really cool Sike drops, our design team does some really cool stuff with those and I love them. And you can find them now at mythical.com/sike. That’s mythical.com/S I K E, not P S Y C H. Ooh, very good distinction. Yes. S I K E. Sike. Thanks for spending your time with me here today. Thank you for listening to “Trevor Talks Too Much”. We got new episodes for you every week on Tuesday. We got the video version coming out the following Monday over on youtube.com/trevortalkstoomuch. Leave a review. Leave a comment, leave a a carrier pigeon flying to my doorstep. I’ll, if any pigeons end up at my doorstep, I’ll know it’s from one of you and I will be sure to see if they’re carrying a message or a missive. 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