Channel: Mythical Kitchen
YouTube Video ID: aX2nd3VAb2U
Episode Post Date: May 7, 2026
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Welcome back to Mythical Kitchen where we all got to eat and sometimes we ride spinning teacups. I don't I don't get that reference. Is that a ride at Disneyland? >> It is. I wouldn't recommend eating and then doing that. >> No, that sounds like a terrible that sounds like a terrible time. Uh spoiler alert, these are my cast members for today. That's another Disney reference. >> That's another Yep. >> Oh, thank god. We're hitting it. We're hitting it. We got the co-host of the four-year amusement podcast Byron Maring and Ryan Vergara. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you for having us. >> Of course. I feel like we got to run down our history before because the only time we've met in person before this was at Disney World and it was in the English pub that I don't know what it was called because that was a very confusing day for me. Yeah, well, okay. I'm trying to remember what side of the world showcase we started on cuz if that was towards the end, I was much different. >> [laughter] >> I I think it was near the beginning. Were you drinking around the world? Cuz that's where I was drinking around the world. >> You and me both, brother. Okay. And were you at the end of your journey or were you at the beginning? >> I was at the beginning. I've never been before. Disney everything about it scares me very much and so I'm going to be handling the food of today and so I'm going to need y'all to give me all the rest of the historical applications. >> We're pumped. I'm just happy I'm not hunting ghosts today. I was going to say yeah, yeah. That's the other part of your career that I have no context for. But I mean, we if we only do like haunted Victorian food, I feel like we could rip that. I think let's stick with the churros. [laughter] Let's stick with the churros. So, what we're going to be doing today? We're going to be going back through 100 years of Disney food. I know Disneyland only opened in 1955, but we're going to go back to something that actually predates that [music] that influenced Disneyland. And then I'm actually going to do what is my modern twist on what these historical foods are. Something that I think could sell at the park today if they were to bring it back. All right. So, Disneyland obviously opened in 1955, but there was another park that really influenced [music] pretty much everything that Walt Disney did including the food. That's Knott's Berry Farm. >> That's right. What do you boys know about Knott's Berry Farm? A little too much. How much time do you got? >> [laughter] >> We're We're your time, dude. >> So, it really you can make an argument that Knott's Berry Farm was Would you say it maybe one of the first theme parks in a in They definitely uh they definitely tout themselves as America's first theme park, but that's kind of open to debate. >> It depends if you consider like Coney Island like like a true theme park and not like a boardwalk kind of theme park, then I guess Coney Island would maybe maybe take that moniker. Or arguments that cuz Cedar [music] Point I guess like technically still like existed as a like as early as like maybe the late 1800s, but it really wasn't [music] in like formed into a park yet. >> Yeah. That's kind of where the gray area is. Like where Knott's Berry Farm it's >> [music] >> Yeah, if it started off as a berry farm like it took so long to actually get to a point where there's [music] attractions and stuff to for us to to consider it an actual theme park. >> I think the first thing that Knott's opened that could be considered theme park-esque was like the ghost town, right? It was modeled after um Calico. Calico, that's right. Yeah, yeah. But you actually will like this because the theme park started as a result of the food. So, Mama Knott's had amazing fried chicken. They had a stand on the side of the >> They're frying some chicken right now, baby. And they had a a berry stand and the line for that would be so long. [music] It would be hours long. And so they thought, "We got to entertain these people in line so they don't kill us." And so they were like, "We should build some rides." And they built rides to entertain them while they waited for the chicken. And then the theme park >> [music] >> enterprise actually started because of how good the fried chicken is, which it is really good. And I'm seeing you bread chicken right now and >> We're bread and chicken right now. I'm extremely excited. Growing up in Southern California, I always just kind of I never thought about the berry farm part of Knott's Berry Farm. That was just the amusement park that we went to. We did field trips there every single year. But like without the cultivation of the boysenberry, Disneyland might not exist. I mean, surely it it did and it would have, you know what I mean? But like as an agriculture nerd, that's a hilarious part of all this. And the fact that like Rudolph Boysen invented the boysenberry and then he fell through [music] a fireman's pole hole while in while working at a fire station and broke his back. I didn't know about Dude, it's actually such a crazy story. And so like he had this >> He crossed all his poisons. And then like he was cultivating the berry at a plant nursery in Altadena, and then the plant nursery owner died while Rudolph Boysen was recovering. And like all of his boysenberry vines died. And there was one USDA official that lived on the opposite side of the country that Rudolph Boysen was like, "Hey, you got to check [music] out this crossbreed of the blackberry, the raspberry, and the loganberry that I made." And the guy was like, "Cool. It takes months to travel anywhere because it's like 1917." That's why. Uh but maybe I'll see it one day. And so he literally comes out to California and he tries to visit the nursery. >> [music] >> And Rudolph Boysen is disabled and the nursery owner is dead. And so that's where [music] Walter Knott comes in. Is they basically uh went to Knott's Berry Farm and were like, "Hey, there's this incredible crossbreed of a berry that I think you guys should start growing." Walter Knott and Walt Disney, they they actually were pals. Yeah. Uh Walt went to Knott's Berry Farm before Disneyland [music] was made and started to kind of like It's kind of like it It feels like it's it's told in secrets of like how much he was influenced by Knott's Berry Farm >> sounds like Disney really doesn't want people to think that. Well, the the the the party line that you hear from Disney is that Walt was going to Griffith Park and he was sitting by on the on a famous bench and he was watching his girls on the carousel and thinking, "Oh, there needs to be a place where uh parents and kids could have fun together." Meanwhile, that already existed just down the freeway at Knott's Berry Farm and he knew that cuz he'd been there. >> I mean, it's less than 10 miles from Disneyland. It's I think it's 6 miles by way the crow flies. Like it's crazy how close it is. >> Right. That's kind of like if considering how many years I've known you, just like one day I had to show up and be like, "So, I'm thinking about doing this ghost show." Oh, that's crazy. If you said that, I would shoot you. >> [laughter] >> And then I'd then I'd watch you in your your future investigation. >> Yes, that's what you call making ghosts from scratch. I I like there's also a bunch of mutual respect there as well though. Like in terms of like the risk-taking aspect of Walter Knott and Disney because [music] I guess you even go back to the start of Knott's Berry Farm. It's kind of depression-era and it didn't make a lot of sense to double down and buy extra land and they like bought double the amount of land in like the peak of that, I believe. Also, there's like an anecdote of like Walter Knott and Cordelia Knott going to the opening of Disneyland cuz Walt invited them was like, "Oh, you should come see my park." And there was like a little moment apparently where they looked at each other at each other on the train and were like, "I think we might be in trouble." >> [laughter] >> Cuz there's a new sheriff in town. >> It's kind of incredible how I mean, the overflow traffic from Disneyland though has contributed to Knott's actually being really successful. I didn't know that Knott's was like it was one of the top 10 most visited [music] theme parks at least like as of 10 years ago. I don't know where they're at now. >> Yeah. But it like really is still a a power on the world stage. I think it's like 4 million people a year. That's crazy. >> Or like 4.4. You could You could check that. >> of that is just teens trying to make out on any ride they could for their Orange County High School Grad Night. >> Now, were you as dashing back in the day as you are now? Cuz like I mean, you you look, you got to like if we were arm wrestling right now, it'll probably take Byron and I both both of us to beat you. We could probably take you. If we rewind to like what college days, well you're you're a Well, you UCLA guy or >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, right on. So like we we we rewind back there, would we have a fighting chance? Okay, so in college I I was in in I This would have been senior of high school. I would have been about 70 lb heavier and my bench was about 100 lb more than it is currently. I was a Division 1 shot putter. You were a shot putter? I was a shot putter. That's what I did. I I ended up very big berries. What's the noise you made? Um it changed. It changed and it was influenced by my best friend. I switched to his grunt. He's actually an Olympian and he's a Greek Olympian and when he throws, he goes like HE GOES LIKE, "OPA!" AND SO IT KIND OF HITS LIKE THE [laughter] OPA. And I was like, "That's so cool and I'm not Greek, but I started doing that. When I used to do a hammer throw it's like release to be like "Opa!" and kind of a stomp. But it used to uh used to work like that. >> you throw farther, right? >> It does. It's like I know like there's a new Dodgers pitcher named Roki Sasaki. He's a young Japanese kid, and his his grunts are extremely high-pitched. They're very funny. >> Can you imitate it? It's like >> [laughter] >> He sounds like he's throwing a Poké Ball. >> Smash Brothers. It's like Kirby or something. >> Yeah, it's uh it's really good. >> Link from Super Smash Brothers. Yeah, oh yeah, like a like a Link. There's the thought that Rudolph Boysen was the one who actually bred the the the cross of the three distinct berries, but then there are some people who think, and this is like internet lore, that he actually just found it in a dead guy's backyard. Like some I it's the details are very hazy, but apparently >> Was it not Walter Knott finding it in his cuz cuz that was kind of the thing that like the boysenberries were kind of on these dilapidated vines in this dead guy's nursery in Altadena? Yeah, people think that's where it was. That Boysen stole it from a dead guy. >> Well, they think that like he was like it was a neighbor or somebody, a friend, uh and they'd passed away and then he went over to the house and then in the backyard you're like, "Well, it's really sad that he's dead. Look at these berries, though." And then and then >> [laughter] >> and then it was like, "I can make jam out of this and then eventually make a log ride for kids to make out on." And sell this up. I need to tell you guys what we're making cuz I'm pretty excited about this. I've never made this before. That's why I'm just kind of riffing right now. Well, you know, you don't want to hear [laughter] that from the the chef, but I think you do. I do, man. That is the one thing I do want to hear is hey, man, this is an experience for all of us. So, we're making a habanero boysenberry spicy chicken sandwich. >> god. >> Cuz they've done a lot of like fun boysenberry meat fried chicken. I think they have boysenberry wings on this year's uh on this year's menu. >> alligator bites, which are really good. >> So, what I'm doing is I've taken some boysenberry jam, which I grew up on Knott's boysenberry jam like in diners. You'd go to like a local IHOP and they have the Berry Farm jam. Um they were bought by Smucker's recently and then they're discontinuing the Knott's like jarred jam program, which really sucks cuz I grew up on it. Is it any better or worse than any other boysenberry jam? Maybe not. I don't think I could taste it uh blind and figure it out. But I'm going to kind of coat this almost like Panda Express style of just like trying to get some of that sugar into that coating. How do you guys get anything done here? >> [laughter] >> This I smelling all this is just looks so good. Oh my god, this is getting me so excited for Friday, too. What I say to I do enjoy the juicy lucy aspect [music] of the Knott's jam just getting sold at Knott's. No, that's that is nice that you So what's that term you used? Juicy Sclucy. That's a Ryan term, actually. He's used it uh for a lot of the attractions that we cover on our podcast where it's like an attraction that's only at one particular park as opposed to getting cloned all over like so many attractions are nowadays. >> that. It's just nice to have a a juicy Sclucy cuz then it's like there's a reason to go to that park. I don't like that they're like trying to make everything like, you know, like treating it like toddlers that they need Everyone needs, you know, you get a Tower of Terror, you get a Tower of Terror. If we have everything here, then there's less of an incentive to go to, you know, Florida or the international parks. >> That's true. Yeah, do you think everything's kind of becoming roughly the same? Like that's the thing that I, you know, I I guess I don't really go to the theme parks that often, but the thing that kind of bums me out is when everything's like everything's an app [music] and there's no more sort of organic discovery. I think part of it is just like it costs so much for R&D for these rides. >> Yeah, yeah. And so if they have a ride that they know is a hit, it behooves them to be like, "Okay, we have the blueprints and we have the space. Let's just, you know, drop this in like Roller Coaster Tycoon in like different parks and we know people will love it." >> Sure, but meanwhile you got Knott's Berry Farm going, "Hey, what insane thing can we put boysenberry on that?" >> Exactly. And Knott's, that's why >> And as long as we ban the teenagers from coming here alone >> Well, they need the teens. >> Well, they have the chaperone program now. Yeah, wait. Teens are getting up to no good. Yeah, so teens teens can no longer go to Knott's by themselves. They need a chaperone? >> I think they were just like they were smooching [music] and and they were they were smooching and fighting. >> That's not what happened. I got in There was a lot of fighting. There's fighting Yeah, yeah. They're fighting. Smooching was in the Timber Mountain log ride. I'd like to think that I snuck in right underneath that that sweet spot, you know? [music] My buddy actually, this doesn't help um You know, we're all trying to pair off in the log ride. A lot happened on this log ride at senior night. We're all trying to pair off. I already had, you know, my prom date, >> [music] >> but my buddy we were trying to pair off with somebody he he did not want to pair off with, but we kind of at the last minute conspired to get them in the same log. We kind of like shoved them in and like stepped back. Oh, nice. >> And then he stands up, turns around and goes, "What the" and then he gets hit by one of the cast members and he He fell he fell in the log ride and he had to like scramble out of it. Yeah, that's some regional theme park stuff out there. >> sure is and so now the kids get chaperones and they're not allowed to be there alone. No, I think they were like throwing fisticuffs in the parking lot and stuff like that. >> All right, boys, here we have >> our spicy boysenberry fried chicken sandwich, a little bit of homemade pickles, some red cabbage slaw, a nice brioche bun. I think Disneyland should put this on the menu to sort of heal that divide and come clean about their true history. >> I think it'd be a big moment. It's good it's fun to spank your burger. It really is. It really is. Not a euphemism, I mean. Cheers, boys. Hey, just making our burgers [music] together at a Disneyland family park. Oh my god. It's so good. Oh, it's oh, we got some drippings on it. >> even whip the uh the tablecloth over there. We'll we'll get to that. We'll get to that. This is This looks too damn good. [music] So excited for the jalapeño. That is absolutely delicious. Oh, hell yeah. Did they Did Did everybody behind Did they get the chance to eat this cuz I'm sad that they [music] can't. It's so good. Holy That's good, >> [laughter] >> right? That's good. The jalapeño is actually um what's bringing the sweet out in a really way. Need to ramp up. I take a lot of inspiration from Thai food, but there's a term called klom klom and it means everything's balanced, but everything's taken up to the level of 11. This is so What's your favorite Thai dish? I love Thai duck noodle soup. It's really great. [music] Khao soi is great. I was going to say khao soi. >> soi. I had once in like but it was like Chiang Mai up in the north. Oh, hell yeah. I was just there. What's wrong? He's a big foodie. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. That's all >> [laughter] >> He actually has things to say when he eats food. I'm like, "Good. Eat food with mouth." It's really This is really delicious. Y'all got any guesses about what's going on? I can smell it. >> [laughter] >> It does smell >> like we're we're we're jumping for a lot further in the timeline now, right? >> Well, so we're jumping up to opening day. So, this is coming from one of the opening day restaurants. We're talking Casa de Fritos, 1955. Pretty much every restaurant that opened with the Disneyland Park was sponsored by someone. There's like the Chicken of the Sea, you know, a pirate ship that was making like a dietetic tuna salad. There was the Carnation ice Yeah, Disney didn't have the bandwidth to They're focused on, you know, getting the aesthetics of the park right, the feel of the park, and of course all the attractions. So, yes, they had They had outside vendors slash sponsors kind of [music] work the the restaurants. >> And what's crazy to me is like how new some of these things were. Like Fritos, I think they only started making Fritos in 1947 and then Cheetos came in 1949. C.E. Doolin is the guy who he literally bought the recipe for Fritos from a Waokan line cook named Francisco O. in San Antonio for $100. Oh, wow. And then turned that into now a multi-billion dollar company. But Casa de Fritos was their way to sort of like advertise all their weird little IPs that they had at the time. They had like the Frito Kid was their mascot. And like but a lot of it was also a lot of people's especially tourists coming in their first impression of Mexican food in America because it was a lot of Mexican food actually had to sort of hide itself as Spanish food before then. And so this was a kind of like big moment where it was very Disney-fied. And the thing that we're actually making today, the taco in a cup, aka the tacocup, which was actually, uh, patented by C.E. Doolin at Casa de Fritos. I can smell it. It smells very good though. >> Yeah. So, the original tacocup was just filled with like refried beans, taco seasoned meat, and then, you know, topped with, uh, some sour cream. But, I think there's a way to sort of modernize this, and the way in is with Frito-Lay's most popular product, Doritos, which were also invented at Casa de Fritos. >> Yes. You guys know the Dorito lore? As the story goes in regards to a Casa de Fritos, um, they would have leftover tortillas or tortillas that started to go stale, and instead of throwing them away, they figured, "Okay, let's let's fry them. Let's chop them up, fry them." And that was kind of the origin [music] of what became the, uh, Dorito. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it was, uh, it was a salesman from It was a company called Alex Foods that it's, uh, by the Morales family, but they had been supplying that's so big. We'll trim it on the tart shell. We're fine. Um, but they've been supplying, uh, Casa de Fritos with all the tortillas and all their specially Mexican products. You guys ever go to the grocery store and it's like it's capital XLNT brand tamales? They're like in the random refrigerated They're next to like the creamed herring now in the grocery store. >> No, I have And you're like, "Who's going here?" It's this insane relic of the past, but they were some of the first, uh, this is from Alex Foods, the same company that supplied Casa de Fritos. They were some of the first like mass tamale makers in America. So, it's kind of this like legendary food company, and one of their salesmen, apparently, was one that went into Casa de Fritos and was like, "Yo, if you don't want those tortillas to go bad, you can just, you know, fry them, salt them, give them out to people." And then C.E. Doolin, the owner of the restaurant, caught wind of that and was like, "We can turn this into a product." >> I'll tell you who's not a mass tamale maker, my family. You're a You're a mass tamale eater though. I'm a mass tamale eater, but we stopped making tamales a long time ago cuz we're a lazy Mexican family. Why'd you stop? It takes forever, man. >> does. It really takes a long time. Did you Have you ever done [laughter] it? I have. I have. I I I mean, I'll spend so much time making food just cuz it's like my hobby. So, I'm trying to take the masa and I'm trying to shape it around this tart shell. So, he created a mold for the Taco [music] Bell that is now in the National Museum of History. Wow. And it never quite took off cuz it did leave the menu in the '70s, >> [music] >> but a lot of people think this might have been like the precursor to the modern taco salad. >> Yeah. Yeah. Although there are several Oh, we're fine. We can just put that around it. Um but there are several like regional Mexican foods that are similar [music] looking to the Taco Bell or even the tostada salad. Putting the tart shell >> Oh, So, I'm going to try and just kind of press the masa out on this tart shell and we're going to drop in the fryer. My pitch though is to bring the Taco Bell back cuz they will occasionally bring retro foods back, but they need to do a Doritos Locos Taco Bell. Also, I love a good food pun. Isn't it a pun the Taco Bell? I think it is. It's like it's lazy, but it's there. I think I think it's fine. I I enjoy saying it. Okay, so I'm going to drop this whole thing. So, the mold for the Taco Bell it literally just kind of looked like this except it had this like long iron sort of arm on it, but I feel like I can kind of just get halfway there but I don't know, man. If this just shield your faces when I drop this in the fryer. Okay. Cover it. All right, so we successfully have some Taco Bells here and now Now is for the the Dorito-ification of it. We made our own Flaming Hot seasoning and our own nacho cheese seasoning. You guys want one of each? I would love that. >> Yeah. Hell yeah. Okay, let's see if this works. This is so violently red. It's so hard to get all of the geometry of this. Oh my god. Oh my god. How did you make the How did you make the powder? So, it's a lot of citric acid, a lot of cayenne pepper, a little bit of habanero powder, onion powder, garlic powder, MSG, buttermilk powder, a little bit of cheddar cheese powder, and then all of that red food dye in there. And then little bit of maltodextrin to stop [music] it from clumping up. It looks really good. Oh my god, that birria smells so good. So, we stew this down for about 4 hours using all short rib on it. And birria was not part of the 1955 equation for this. No, it certainly was not. We're tying it in with the modern age of uh That's exactly this. >> work. This is your pitch. Like, they got the birria already. You guys were talking about how like you know, a lot of Disney food is meant for the gram. >> [music] >> Uh we're certainly going to be doing one of those later today that I am very dubious of. But come on, what's more what's more Instagrammy than a Flaming Hot taco birria taco cup? Well, let's see [music] how this works. See how this works. Holy crap. So, I'm hoping that the birria consommé actually kind of gets like trapped in there a little bit and it's almost like Josh, what are your thoughts on a consommé in regards to like how they sell it at like food stands? I dude, I love it. Give me a consommé in a plastic cup and I'm I'm so in. How much do you take home with you every time though? Cuz like my issue is like it's always an upcharge to to get [music] the consommé, right? And then I have like a sometimes I have a gallon left over. I'm like, what do like is that like soup for later or I guess that's true. Sometimes I'll drink it. >> I drink it. I drink it. I exclusively drink it, in fact. Like a little freak. >> [laughter] >> Okay. All right, we got our Flaming Hot. We got our classic nacho cheese. Nacho [music] cheese, second ever flavor of Doritos, first was taco. I got to ask, do you guys intentionally like get the vents to blow all these amazing smells like in this direction cuz I swear every time you like take a lid off or or working on something else, we just get this big waft. This big preliminary waft. It's like we're getting the Main Street experience. >> Disney-like cuz they pipe in smells. What? >> Like, if you're ever walking down Main Street, you're like, "God, that popcorn smells heavenly." It's because there's like they are piping in that smell. >> Wait, outside? They pipe outside smells? >> Yeah. That's right. How do they get it to How do they get the the air I don't know how science works either. >> magic. >> Well, they do moving people by sightlines. They'll usually have things like every land needs what's called a weenie, which is basically it was a term that Walt used of for his dog that he would have a weenie in front of his dog and the dog would follow the weenie. And so a weenie on Main Street is the castle cuz everyone sees the castle and they're like, "Oh, I'm going to move towards the castle." A weenie and like and Tomorrowland you could be Matterhorn or, you know, Big Thunder Mountain over in Frontierland. >> what's over there? And what's that smell? Popcorn. Where's my wallet? >> Yeah. And we got our >> That's the Disney magic. It gets you to pull that credit card out. >> And we got our weenies today. Boys, we have Oh, we have >> our taco ups. We have our nacho cheese and flaming hot birria taco ups. This is like the greatest day of my life. Shh. I hold on cuz we need to get a lime wedge. Where the knives at, V? Can I get a knife? Yeah, I got you. Where Where am I? Ooh, that's a big knife. Yeah, try to get it out. Hey V, can we hurry it up? V, hurry it. All right, fine. Josh, I got you a knife. I also found a sword in a stump, but I couldn't get it out. So I got you a scroll. A scroll? And this tea shot. She's found a scroll. What sayeth the scroll? THOUGH A SWORD MAY GIVE YOU STRENGTH, THE ONLY way to win riches is to find the golden TEA OF MYTHICALITY. THREE LUCKY PEOPLE will win a total of $50,000. Go to mythical.com to purchase the golden tea of mythicality. If you get the gold, silver, or bronze shirt, you receive riches. Riches. Riches. Must be legal resident of US or Canada. 18 years or older. No purchase necessary to enter or win. Sweepstakes runs from May 4th, that's 12:00 a.m. PDT to May 8th, 2026, 11:59 p.m. PDT, the year of our lord. Terms and conditions apply. Void where prohibited. Visit mythical.com for official rules. Rules. >> Rules. Riches and rules. I I think a lot of the Disney food, you know, it's meant to be kind of like handheld unless you're at a sit-down restaurant. This is a tough handheld one cuz this is going to get everywhere. No, this is going to be explosive. I don't even know how to eat this. Are you starting with the Flamin' Hot or are you starting with nacho? I'm going to start nacho. >> Okay, I'm going to go nacho then. >> I'm trying to decide like do you kind of like sip it a little bit? You can't space it out. Holy Oh my god. That is stupid. It's really good. Oh my god. >> to try Flamin' Hot. I got to rip this one up. Yeah, that's Oh, wait, we're going to Flamin'? We're moving to Flamin'? >> I'm going Flamin' now. Yeah, if they served this at the park, people would wait [snorts] 3 hours. This is insane. People are waiting. >> Come with me as we're trying Disneyland >> [laughter] >> but except really good. Like actually good. People [clears throat] be waiting like 2 hours for like a popcorn bucket at Disneyland. >> Is that Are there lines like that? Yeah. I'm scared, man. Especially if there's a Figment bucket on it. If there's a Figment bucket on the line. Now, the question is can you get it at this quality for thousands of people every day? Cuz I feel like that's the struggle with Oh, yeah. >> [laughter] >> I can do it. Oh my god. I don't know if they have it in the budget to produce, you know, 100 chefs of of Josh quality here. It's almost too much, especially with the habanero. That was my fault though. I put that on there. >> I'm going to try that actually. >> Dude, that's the bite. Is that your catchphrase? No. That should be your catchphrase. >> Which one? That's the bite. >> That was good. Yeah. Golden It's like an emerald. >> You sure you don't want it? No, you got it, man. The good news is we got a sweet treat coming up next. Okay. You guys ready? All right, let's do it. We're doing it. >> All right. We're making some god damn churros right now. I wasn't sure. >> [laughter] >> No if you knew how churros are made, they're made like this. I saw the tray of the cinnamon sugar coming out. I was like, "Okay." That's a clue. That's a clue. No we're doing the the churros. And then we got the the pineapples here. So this this is a nice little like a pineapple compote that we made. We have some pineapple Dole Whip sitting in the freezer because I have yet to see, maybe you guys have seen way more Disney than I have. I've yet to see the churro and the Dole Whip interact with each other and I think it's a match made in heaven. Now they have some concoctions they've made over in the tropical hideaway which is something new in Adventureland, at least at Disneyland, but I don't think I've seen that. Have you seen that? No, not quite. Actually, you know what these chopped up pineapples [music] remind me of when they before Dole Whip became a real thing [music] is because Disney was partnered with Dole and it was basically just like soft serve ice cream [music] of sorts with the chopped up pineapples. And when they tried to bring that over to Florida, that didn't really work too well with [music] the heat. >> they kind of worked with Dole to kind of create the what is now Dole Whip. Yeah, they literally worked with like Dole's insane [music] food science team. They basically put all of their best food scientists on like, "How do we make a very stable pineapple flavor product that's super unique for Disneyland?" And I think it was 1983, the Dole scientists down in Florida figured out the process of Dole Whip which is like non-dairy frozen pineapples blended with like a very stable coconut cream and that's how we get that treat today. What we're doing now is we're going to make giant foot long churros which are very unique to Disneyland and then we're going to split that open like a hot dog, fill it with Dole Whip and a nice little spiced rum pineapple compote. >> You're a madman. >> it like a hot dog. I think it's going to work. If this doesn't work, they're going to put you in Disney jail. God, wait. Wait, what do you know about Disney jail? I've only heard rumors. We almost saw someone go to Disney jail once. >> We did? >> them disappear, but [music] we never got to see behind the door. >> you watched someone get disappeared at Disney? >> You know Epcot, right? >> Actually, you know what? It may have been the same day we ran into you. We watched them disappear a woman. Was it me? Was it my wife? No. We were I drank a lot, but like we were fine. >> No, we were on the in line for the Frozen Ever After ride. >> These were very much tourists. Okay, got you. >> And it was these two people that tried to sneak to the front and then they stopped them and they were like, "You can't do that." And they were like and they were like, "No, we're going to do that." And then the Disney cast members are [laughter] like >> Okay, it was the the wife really wanted to do that. >> Well, they were trying to tell her This is our last ditch effort. We are getting on this ride no matter what. They gave her a warning and they were like, "Hey, you cut your losses." Please, no. Please. And she I pushes through like you know they have like the little like revolving doors that you know keep you behind the line and everything before you board. She pushed right through those doors. >> even know it was possible. >> And the and the husband standing on the other side like, "No. No." And she's like, "Get in this boat. Get in this boat. Get in this boat." And then we were the boat that got in right behind [music] them. And of course this is in the Norway pavilion and like as the world showcase goes it's like they bring people from those countries to actually work the pavilions. I love Elsa then. And and the attractions. So you have, you know, the these Nordic cast members like yelling across They're very polite people generally, too. Yeah, no, but they this this was not it. This was >> [laughter] >> you got a little slice of something different this time. So we get in the boat Ryan and I are thinking, "Oh man, like they're going to go through the ride and we're going to see them go to Disney jail." Why [laughter] couldn't it wait? I thought I was going to come back and see like like Goofy with a knee in her back or something like, [laughter] you know, putting the cuffs on her and it and unfortunately she was just As soon as we got back they were completely gone and there's like a cast member door and like a long hallway that that's right at the exit and we knew that just they're on the other side of that wall, but they gone. >> Where are the Disney black sites? >> a 10-second window to get them away from us and they did it. >> Do you remember that scene in Texas Chainsaw Massacre when he like drags that guy and then he just shuts that giant like silver door and it's like Missed it. Missed that one. >> Anyways, they she's >> hanging on a hook somewhere, I think. >> I I actually think those scenes are some of the reasons that I don't love Disney parks. Like I have a fun time, you know, I go occasionally. Um I'm not like morally against it, but I feel like every time I go, I only see the saddest version of everything around me. I see the screaming kids and like the parents making a last-ditch effort to make this thing work before they sign the papers, you know what I mean? Maybe this one Disney trip can save us. Yes. And I just feel like that's all I see at the parks. And I don't know >> I'm like intentionally seeing around all the magic >> [music] >> into just the dregs of humanity. And that's more on me than on anybody else. >> I get that when I go to Cabo and I see like couples at like the the dinner tables there. >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but that's the same thing, right? It's the kind of like resort vibe of like you're in this liminal space where like real human morality doesn't matter. People just don't know how to act anymore, you know? Also, the the history of the churro the churro this style of churro that we're making, I just play I was actually really shocked that this worked. So Most churros aren't >> [laughter] >> We're such professionals. Most churros ain't this freaking big. But you go to Disneyland and they have 12-in long churros and that was very intentional because the uh it was an employee in 1985. >> Loman. Jim Loman, that's exactly right. When Videopolis was opening? >> Jim Loman who was running food and beverage in the Fantasyland area, which is where Videopolis was located at the time. Now it's the Fantasyland [music] theater. But he also liked going to the racetrack and he went to the Long Beach Grand Prix one night and they had this uh churro stand. Um and he and he loved the churros, but as you're saying, well, they weren't always this [music] 12 this foot-long churro. They were about like 6 in or so. >> So he tracked down the people that of the vendors that made these churros. >> tracked it down, right? He found like an empty box, I heard. >> dug through the trash Wait, really? >> the wrapper of the churro and then track down the company. >> J&J Foods or something like that. Now, >> the agreement had to be that they needed to make this a foot long churro. It needed to be something that people could see. You could walk around like a trophy and other people walking by. >> weenie, if you will. >> Like literally, yeah, right? I've had some of their They did a rose gold churro a while a while back. That was just like I was like a like a lemon zest and like rose flavored sugar on the churro and it was just like incredible. They do every now and then put like fillings and stuff like that inside the churros. It's usually pretty miss, but I've never heard seen the Dole combinations. >> We're going to try it. We're going to let this cool for a second and we're going to slice it open and pipe some whip in there. All right, we got the churro. It's slightly cooled. We put Dole Whip in a piping bag cuz we don't got the fancy soft serve machine. I'm going to try and make an incision. [music] This is like the pit. And this you Can we prep the into bed? I need a crack. They really >> doctor. The the cutaways, the close-ups, [music] like they'll describe what's happening to the patient and they cut to a close-up and it's just it feels like they're personally attacking [music] me. >> Yeah, it um I am so glad I got through that first episode where it's that lady's like I think it's the foot. Oh, [laughter] yeah. The foot in the train and the foot And the foot's just out and I almost turned it off, but now it's like one of my favorite shows. So now we're just going to shove the Dole Whip inside and kind of pipe it. Oh, I thought Okay, I was like, how are they going to eat this? >> This is going to melt immediately. This is still so much hotter than I thought it was. >> [music] >> Okay, and now we're going to take that spiced rum pineapple compote. This looks insane. [music] This looks like you're giving Disney a lot of really good free ideas. >> [laughter] >> I was just thinking the same thing. Think about that business model. Mickey's at home eating it. >> never pay for sponsored content cuz they really don't need to. Okay, boys, here we go. We got the official Disneyland foot long churro meets Dole Whip the hot dog situation here. You guys should have the ends. I'll take the middle. We're going to eat it like a hot dog. I think we have to. It's already It's going so fast. It's going so fast. You got to We got to go. We got to go. Two and Cheers, guys. Cheers, cheers, cheers. I just got all over you, Byron. >> [laughter] >> That was really fun. Good. Yeah, almost a little too much. It's It's just It melted so quickly. But If anybody wants a fresh squirt in their mouth of Dole Whip just to finish it off. I'm down. Yeah, yeah. Actually, no. No, no, there you go. There you go. It's all good. I'm good. My turn? Oh my god. Just kind of Yeah. This Now, we would do this at the park. >> Mhm. You get the money shot there? We'd have to have a very brave cast member do that. It's like a You ever see like the mean wench at the Renaissance Fair who had a like the like the beret she wore as a beer wench? We [clears throat] would do that with a Dole Whip. That's my pitch to Disney. >> [music] >> We're going from the '80s to the '80s, but the reason I wanted to have this is that it has persisted around multiple parts of Disneyland still to this day, but being discontinued and brought back [music] almost constantly. And this is what became known as the Handwich, what was originally known as Castle Cones, and then what has now been at the Cozy Cone Motels. >> Chili Cone Carne Cones. They keep trying to make bread cones work. And this was a Michael Eisner original in the '80s as well. So, Michael Eisner was the CEO of Disney, right? How is his legacy viewed? Cuz I This is the context that I don't have. It's It's complicated because I think he single-handedly kept the company alive, him and and Frank Wells. They were kind of like a dynamic duo. Eisner was the idea guy. Frank Wells was the guy who kind of ran ran them in and was the money guy. >> Yeah. And they they were responsible for kind of the resurgence in Disney. Nowadays, I think there's like a resurgence in like [music] what he did like the admiration. Because a lot of There's a lot of like very safe bets that are made nowadays [music] where it's like, "Hey, this made this amount in the box office. Yeah. >> We'll make it a ride. It's going to work out." And you don't get kind of the off-the-wall bonkers ideas that maybe that didn't always work or age incredibly well, but there was a lot of There's like a lot of ingenuity. There's just risk being taken. Yeah. Yeah. Or him naming Splash Mountain Splash Mountain because there was a Tom Hanks movie called Splash that was popular and he just thought let's just have nothing to do with the movie. >> only So, is that Daryl Hannah as a mermaid, I think? Is that Splash? >> so. >> The original title was supposed to be Zippity River River Run. And [laughter] they're like, wait, we got to we got to we got to synergize here. So funny. And he was responsible for the Mushu shrimp sandwich. Yes. >> The original flavor of sandwich? >> I must say I did not know it came with shrimp. That was the original So, I'm sorry, that wasn't the handwich, that was the castle cone. So, he was obsessed with food. He went to the 1964 World's Fair in New York and that was where I didn't know this, Belgian waffles got their popularity at being known as Belgian waffles. >> Huh. Cuz there was a place called Bel-Gem Waffle Hut and they were doing Belgian yeast and waffles and there was just lines [music] for hours for this new pastry that nobody had really had in America before and he was obsessed with that idea and so he put all of the best Imagineers on creating new fun foods and he used the term fun foods cuz every Imagineer that was like interviewed, they used the term fun foods and then they finger quoted so that must have been a thing. The highest matrix analysis became the castle cone or the handwich and their tagline was the world's first sandwich that you can eat with one hand. Almost Almost all sandwiches I think you can eat with one hand. >> one-handing a hoagie all the time. I'm not really sure what where did they get Where did they make that claim? >> I struggled to name a sandwich that you can't eat with one hand. >> Well, it's hard to try and like act that out but then I realize it's just going to be gift to hell on the internet. Like how does how DOES ONE >> [laughter] >> EAT I saw this and immediately went, oh, that's Kurtoskalacs. I see. This is Kurtoskalacs. Obviously, you look at this and >> know what that is, yeah. Kurtoskalacs. Come on, Kurtoskalacs. Kurtoskalacs cake. I'm not going to lie, when I first saw these little tin foil cones come out, I thought we were entering some sort of Disney conspiracy segment. This is Disney doing Hungarian propaganda. But I went to the Cozy Cone Motel and I saw that they had >> [music] >> these cones that they were filling with chili and I immediately went, "Oh, I've seen that before because in Anaheim there's a bakery called House of Chimney [music] Cakes that is making Hungarian Chimney Cakes which is this exact technique." And so this is like a traditional Slavic or Hungarian dish that they like then turned you know they they Disneyfied similar with the talk up. And so that's why my So they get back to their Hungarian roots. That's how they're making handwiches but filled with chicken paprikash and nokedli, a typical egg and potato flour dumpling. I mean this is the first one where I haven't had a version of it at the park. So I cuz I'm I people when they over and get the Cozy Cones I'm like you're out of your mind. That's that looks like the most demented thing I've ever seen. Yeah cuz they're they're they're mostly mac and cheese based now, right? They're filling them with mac and cheese and fried chicken. Ironically enough, the only time the closest thing I've had to a handwich is the macaroni [music] cone at Epic Universe. Oh interesting. super popular now. Weird. We're not just Disney guys, we're theme park adults, not Disney adults. There's a difference. There's a difference. So don't come at me in the comments and be like Disney adults. We like theme parks, all right? Yeah, we did have a comment once on one of our videos that [music] said eat Disney boys. >> [laughter] >> They were like a big Universal fan and they always talked about us. a really funny comment. I think it'd be funny. Eat Disney boys. Wait, I think when when we ran into each other at I've got I think you were you going for the Epic Universe? We were there for the yeah for the media preview. That's right. Did you see Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray perform? We did. Yes. Yeah, I went multiple times. Yeah, I was I was there in in body. Yeah yeah yeah. That was at the end of a long day of drinking. Yeah dude, that guy was great by the way. He really was. I unironically love Sugar Ray. Same. It was amazing. They've really embraced like where they're at currently in their career and they You just lost a cone. Don't worry, I'll eat the one that fell on the floor. We got We have our three Kurtosh Kalachi or hand which cones here. I'm going to fill them with We've made Nokedli, also very similar to a Spatzle if you're German. We're just going to fill that in the bottom. That's kind of going to be like the chocolate in the bottom of the ice cream cone that sort of like plugs the hole. Got you. And then we have the chicken paprikash. Have you ever had chicken paprikash? I've not. Have you? Oh, it's such a lovely story. Maybe unknowingly, but I see. >> And I think I think this can really sell in the Florida heat. What have you done? You know, you can be like, [laughter] "Come on, imagine you're This looks crazy. >> Imagine you're a kid walking around Videopolis, you know, is this leaking through the bottom? We'll figure that out. You're walking around Videopolis, you're watching Captain EO, and you go, "Hey, do you want a bite of my chicken paprikash filled Kurtosh Kalach?" Who's going to say no to that? >> Yeah, man. You know? Okay, little bit of sour cream. Can't have paprikash without sour cream, you know that. All right, and then some cheese And then we're going to hit it with just a little dusting of Hungarian paprika. This is imported. This one's just for me. This round, this one's just for me. >> Are we getting Are we getting the Doritos dusting again? >> for me. And then some chives. Again, you're a teen, it's 1987. This, if you know, back in the day, this would be this would be doing well on the 'gram. All right, boys, here we have our 1980s hand which reimagined for the modern era with our Hungarian Nokedli and paprikash because this, of course, is a traditional Kurtosh Kalach. >> That's right. I noticed you staring at my cone from across the floor. >> [laughter] >> Sorry, it's dripping. Well, unfortunately, it's pretty good. >> [laughter] >> I took the world's worst approach. Wow. This is going to make for a hell of a close-up. It really is. You look like Scarface. >> [laughter] >> I I this one could use another couple rounds imagineering if we're being honest. You know what I mean? This might have hit the cutting room floor. >> to the drawing board. And you know what? The the cone structure, like the actual the breading of the cone is delicious. >> It's shockingly held up, too. It is. Awesome. It almost held up. >> fighting for his life over here. Holy >> [laughter] >> In the words of the great Desi Arnaz, you have some 'splaining to do. I I sure [laughter] do. I sure do. I think Disney also had some 'splaining to do. And I was hoping you guys could help explain what the hell the pickle dog is. I That's your guess is good as mine, man. Have you had a pickle dog at Disney? Because this is my main lens into the food insanity at Disney. And this came around in the 2020s, maybe late 2010s actually. But they will um take a giant pickle, which Disneyland and Disney World are known for their giant pickles. Yep. Uh but I've never had a pickle dog. Corn dogs though, you got to end with a Disneyland corn dog, especially from Unironically like changed the way that I view corn dogs. It's the breading. It's the breading. There's long all beef franks. The breading has this like beautiful glutinous chew. It's the right amount of sweetness. It's not bready. It's so good. That's not what we're doing today. >> Okay. Because they created This is the viral thing where they are taking the giant pickles and they're coring them. This is like that influencer thing I was talking to you about earlier. >> Liter- literally yes. >> [laughter] >> And like it's to the point where I see these videos and they show, you know, the the perfect bite taken out of it. Then I'm like, I know you took cuticle scissors and styled that bite. And the And the happiest place on Earth is driving me insane. And so uh they're shoving a hot dog inside of their giant pickles and they're battering the whole thing and frying it. And they also started serving it with peanut butter and Nutella. Um I don't know, man. I don't know, but >> should be in prison. What I'm doing today, Korean corn dogs are the best corn dogs in the world. Also, K-pop K- Demon 100. Like there's so many different IPs. I know it's not Disney. >> I see. I see. But I know you can kind of weave this in. So that's why we we were thinking about what's the biggest vegetable that we can shove a hot dog in and we thought about Korean danmuji or or yellow pickled daikon. Oh. So, we're going to shove a whole hot dog in here. I do too. Have you had this before? >> No, I mean I I've had a small versions of it in Korean sushi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like kimbap. >> Yeah, it's really good. [music] Uh do you know the corn dog cart hot tip if you don't want to wait in that line cuz it could get, you know, really long unless you mobile order, just go to the stage door. Stage door is like it's right behind the Golden Horseshoe in Frontierland. No line ever there. They're not as good. Oh my god. Okay, some people claim that they're not the same corn dog. Oh, this is extremely >> [laughter] >> A gift from the kitchen. Wig- wiggle that around as you explain this, please. >> This is [laughter] the saddest thing I've ever seen. What is stage door? >> There's a time and a place for stage door. >> service restaurant in behind Golden Horseshoe and it's it's the same corn dog. People claim it's not the same corn dog as the one on the Main Street. We heard it from Disney themselves, it's the same [music] corn dog. Look, if the placebo doesn't hit as hard, all right? >> Okay, well, you ride wagon on Main You go wait 25 minutes for a corn dog on Main Street and I'll get on Space Mountain with my corn dog. What in the What is going on? I overshot it. That's extremely satisfying though. They they dip it in the batter and then it goes into panko batter, which I think is interesting and they have to they got to move really quick. So, you tried to replicate their batter. Yeah, we're trying to replicate their batter and this is their process. They put it into panko and I don't exactly know why. May I smell the batter? Please. This is Disneyland's battering process for the [music] pickled dog. They go from a batter into the panko and I think the panko just adds an extra [music] protective layer. Can I bite this? Oh, I yeah, yeah, that was for you. Need sorry. Should I just bite this uh >> [snorts] >> What would you like to You know, for science I'll do it, I guess. I don't think you're not going to like it, Byron. >> [laughter] >> I know you, you're not going to like it. >> My roommate had to put a ban on me pickling daikon in college in the room in the house. That is a thing. Yep. Byron's been trying to cut down on his vegetables. Doctor's order. Well, boys. Holy my god. Better corn dog. I'll take the one that kind of split. Wait, well, actually I'm going to garnish it first. So, since this is a Korean-inspired corn dog, we're doing a little bit of gochujang mayo right on top. You know, this is course number five, right, Josh? Well, yeah, typically you do either a dessert or a cheese plate um at this level in a meal. Not today. Well, I hope you enjoy getting no work done for a week cuz this is going to put you out for a while. >> I feel like I just need to hop in a bath after this, you know, just kind of like a reset. The weight. Do we gingerly touch our tips? >> I don't know. I mean, do it quick cuz this stick is about to snap in half. This is crazy. Look at I don't know. Can you tell like the force that's being like this thing is a goner. I need I need a knife. Hold on. Holy moly. >> a knife it. Dude. >> [laughter] >> I got a little bit of the pickle, a little bit of the dog, but mainly breading. So, now I'm diving again. Okay. Wow. It is delicious, but that also is like fried breading, which is obviously going to going to be delicious. Well, you know, it's so upsetting to It's so heavy. It's like when you have like a Chipotle burrito on your hand, you're like, that's going to be inside me. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a disturbing thought. Uh-huh. The pickle to protein ratio is ambitious. Okay, I'm going to Could you like pixelate this like Japanese porno? Yeah. So, you [laughter] don't see my mouth. We don't have to do that for more social distancing. >> [laughter] >> All right. Oh my god. Oh my god. No, it's not going to work. I've never had combination of flavors before. It's not bad, though. It's not bad. When we first thought about doing this, you're like, okay, surely we'll take the pickle dog, but we'll shove the hot dog inside of another giant pickled vegetable. And so few options of giant pickled vegetables that a hot dog can get shove its [music] way into. I'll tell you how. You kind of think there's going to be a lot of them. There's really only daikon and pickle daikon and cucumbers. That's it. Now that we've eaten 100 years [laughter] of Disney foods, I'll be able to view it a different lens. Where do you rank all the foods that we've had today? Okay, so this is five. >> [laughter] >> Hey, one of them had to be. Next, I will go with the Hungarian based sandwich. You're going five to one right now? Yeah, which is also delicious. Okay. Just a messy one. Everything's, yeah, everything's pretty damn good. >> [laughter] >> Then I got to go um This is so weird to put this third is going to be the the Doritos bowl. Woah. >> flaming hot, the birria bowl. Once again, really delicious, but because the churro was so damn good with the Dole Whip and the I don't know, it really worked with the pineapple. And then this is this is so sacrilegious, but Knott's Berry Farm the boysenberry fried chicken sandwich. Hell, yeah. I don't know if that's like has an advantage because I was the hungriest at the time that I had it. >> I was wondering that as myself. >> My my order is the exact same as yours except the churro and the the birria is is it's switched. >> That one's I was pretty torn between. Cuz but the yeah, that that boysenberry sandwich was crazy. >> Dude, hell, yeah. Uh truly, guys, thank you so much for coming. This was Thank you. This was this was a a huge pleasure to be here. Thanks for having us. Hey, this was delicious, man. Thank you. 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