ramble hey before we get into today’s episode we want to tell you about good mythical evening for one night only we are bringing you good mythical evening streaming exclusively on moment house get your ticket for a most indecent sloshy and random show that takes our classic good mythical morning favorites and torches the rulebook the show is live september 1st to jumpstart the labor day weekend tickets are on sale right now at goodmythicalevening.com hey nicole hey josh what has four legs and recorded a live podcast at vidcon that we’re releasing right now us yeah but i think britney broski and sarah shower too this is a hot dog is a sandwich live ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich all right so nicole this is the first ever live podcast that we recorded that’s true it was very exciting we were at vidcon down at the anaheim convention center the first time real life fans hot doggers mythical kitchens doggers we haven’t named our fan group yet we call them hot doggers on the podcast but we don’t have mythical kitchen i like hot doggers officially hot doggers for the podcast it has been spoken okay uh but a big thank you to everybody who came out to vidcon to the live podcast we did a bunch of panels we ate a lot of vietnamese snails and drank a lot of beer it was so nice to meet so many of you and for the first time it was incredible yeah it was truly incredible to meet everybody in person and see the joy on their faces that’s right of course after hearing our truly upsetting opinions about whether or not a chicken nugget is a meatball yeah that was our subject topic yep that’s correct again to everyone who is at the recording live thank you so so so much for coming out and all of you listening at home i hope you enjoy this special live recording of a hot dog i thought nicole is going to do it no hot dog is it nicole dude i think it’s a sandwich no i don’t want to do it live fine i’ll do it enjoy [Music] [Applause] [Music] nicole has short little legs it’s not her fault it’s not her fault uh anyways welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and welcome to the first ever live edition of vidcon this is awesome show of hands how many people are only here for the air conditioning i’m sweaty i am sweaty all over in unimaginable places it is absolutely brutal but today nicole and i have saved the most important the most high-minded intelligent question we’ve ever asked ourselves for you people here today um is a chicken nugget a meatball round of applause for that question alone thank you come on hold on no there this is deceptively important nicole your opening thoughts no of mine no of course is not a meatball i think that they’re like distant cousins like on on the dad’s side but no i don’t think that chicken nuggets and meatballs are the same thing are they like the cousins that like you don’t actually know how you’re related to them because we all have those cousins too right we’re like i don’t think there’s any they’re because you see at the wedding and you’re like hi and then you walk away you know what i mean no but like how’s school going and they’re like i’m 27. you’re like oh sorry i’m not getting the double doctorate huh i don’t know i mean meatball ball of meat nugget no equal ball nugget flat shape i’d like to i’d like to counter one of your claims where nugget no equal ball now they’ll get no equal balls very intelligent same right there nicole unless you think about the four shapes of the mcdonald’s mcnutt i knew you were gonna bring that up everybody at once boot bone bell ball wait how many of you actually knew that there were four shapes of mcdonald’s wow we’re with some pros in the audience you know that because of us or because of independent study well thank you oh nice keith is a close scholar of several of our uh shared interests correct no but that’s because it’s a ball in the words of like a bouncy ball but like it’s it’s so when you put it to the side it looks like a ball straight on but when you put it to the side it’s not a ball it’s flat wait not a circle it’s not a sphere it’s a circle it’s not a sphere speaking of bouncy balls and nuggets so quick aside y’all ever okay so growing up school lunches you had like two options it was chicken nuggets it was pizza and then it was absolutely nothing else sandwich and well yeah they’re like it was a turkey ham sandwich at my school it was a pb j with a side of milk but did you ever have long distance nugget mounting competitions no there were some days i had to save my food no v and i both went to public school in southern california i went to public school too i never bounced my nuggets against other students went to the fancy public school though you went to the beverly hills public school that doesn’t count you all got the organic vegan nuggets free range chicken out there no no you go to the public school nuggets they would get so hard from being under the heat lamp after a while that you couldn’t chew through them and so you’re like well all we can do now is bounce these for distance it was like playing long distance quarters at a party except with nuggets as a child what would you do for like sustenance and food when your chicken nuggets were you know in the dirt being bounced around you would eat flamin hot cheetos and pop-tarts like any respectable kid in school that’s how you get nutrition i guess snickers bars calorically dense delicious okay meatballs context that’s first first we might okay we must define a meat oh do you define a meatball a ball of meat that is cooked okay but at what shape i would ask does a meatball cease to be a ball and simply be a lump of meat because we have to do i mean do we have any any uh like phds in geometry out here like hardcore quantum geometries where you at st we’re at the podcast they’re at the other one this is like like is there a doctor on the plane do we have a geometrist in unfortunately no no no we got a way to jump at what is what is okay do you know the uh actual shape of the globe of the earth and what it’s called it’s not a sphere what is it it’s here because spheres only exist in theory right spheres do not exist in reality no matter what nicole there is hold on no no i make a good point what in the world is booing me i’m right nobody’s you that’s in your own head but like a basketball a bouncy ball okay a basketball sphere right yeah there’s always going to be one like uh the socratic forms this is important he always only exists in theory because no matter what if you’re if you are drawing a triangle on a chalkboard okay right a piece a wind is going to to blow one of the greens of chalk a stray so it is no longer perfect down to the minutia so the earth is not a sphere it is an oblate spheroid is the earth an oblate spheroid so there’s no such thing as a perfect meatball okay i’m not looking for perfection that’s not what i said i’m not looking for perfection i’m looking for taxation i guess i’m looking for like taxonomy but no i don’t think a chicken nugget is a ball i think a chicken nuggets flat it’s a flat with a ridge it’s a patty thank you it’s a a chicken nugget is a patty nicole you are not one to talk about bloated nuggets because do you remember my criticism of your now we’re just going to have personal fights whatever do you remember fast food mcdonald’s mcnuggets yeah what about them nuggets they were pregnant they were pregnant nuggets and they were not they were beautiful pregnancy made meatballs and tried to pass them off as nuggets either you have to renounce your production work on that episode i’ll tell you exactly what happened the tempura batter made it look also more no no no no no don’t you dare try and back out of this i saw them before they were battered they were a little but i think that was a decision you and i both made in order to make it look that way right now you made the decision i kind of caved and went along with it and i’m totally fine with that i mean i mean sure at that point but when i’m thinking about like you know when you think in your mind you think of a chicken nugget you think of a six-piece mcnugget from mcdonald’s why don’t they have meatballs on the menu at that point why doesn’t mcdonald’s have meatballs on them maybe they do and you just don’t know because you know mcnuggets they could be called meatballs but then you’re mixing the iron what about this mix with the italian meatball and that’s just confusing for people i’m so frustrated right okay wait hold on let me ask you that let me ask you then what if what if what if because a nugget right a nugget it is seasoned ground meat that has been processed and packed into a certain shape a certain shape well but it can be any shape i didn’t say what about a dinosaur meatball that doesn’t exist a dinosaur meatball isn’t real it’s something that’s made out of like real dinosaur meat scientists don’t have the technology yet yeah but it’s okay after a lifetime and i think in the time that we will still be making content they’re going to figure out how to clone dinosaur flesh who who is the world going to look to nicole to cook that dinosaur flesh us that’s incredible thank you us thank you thank you you know they do have there’s like a meat company that’s making meat to taste like lion meat stuff which i think is the wildest thing in the world sorry for that segway um okay another factor that we are not considering is uh chicken nuggets typically breaded okay yeah no that’s very meatballs never breaded hold on have you ever been to the old tgi fridays nicole answer the question please yes i have been wonderful do you know what the tgi fridays will do with macaroni and cheese what will they do with that if you pay them the small price at 9.99 they will take that macaroni and cheese and they will ball it up and they will panko crusted and they will fry it and it is absolutely delicious is it called a meatball or blue lagoon margarita is it called a meatball though for me no it’s a it’s a mac and cheese ball it doesn’t cease to be mac and cheese once it has been panko crusted and fried it is still mac and cheese in my opinion the soul of the dish nicole is the same if you take a meatball uh-huh you were to panko crust and fry it you’re gripping that mic real hard sorry i get really passionate i get really passionate about this there’s no i think that it just becomes a nugget at that point you agree that a meatball can be made out of chicken a meatball can be made out of chicken yes and if you were to take that chicken meatball save and you sliced it in half nickel and then and then you fried it and you served it with a little bit of that honey musty you know the good stuff with the spicy spicy brown talking about honey musty in front of our friends we’re a baker no big honey family we put a whole honey musty i’m just i’m just so dedicated to the shape of a meatball there’s like nothing else in the world you see it you know what it is you know sometimes meatballs get a little bit flat but they have a dome the dome it exists i don’t think okay uh you’re talking about meatballs being flat right like sometimes on the bottom the meatball gets flat and that’s fine that’s not a big deal that’s not a deciding factor i’m saying the intention is for it to be round and if it kind of flattens out so what a little bit but there’s a definite form whenever the meatball falls and it turns into a flat piece of meat and at that point you have to step aside and say i made a sheet of nuggets you just got to do that the road to nugget hell is paved with round intentions nicole not outside i it took way too long to try and figure out how that would be phrased for roughly no payoff so thank you for being there with me but okay um we make a lot of meatball content we just love balls of meat we’ve talked about we make a lot of meatballs meatball versus meatloaf dichotomy meatballs are sexy meatloaf is garish we talked about how we need chris angel on board if anybody has a contact with chris angel and his team i don’t think he’s doing much these days and we’d love to have him in on a project we’re down to get mind freaking mine whenever we make meatballs like i will say the best way to do it is you you make the meat mixture whether you’re doing italian meatballs swedish meatballs whatever and then you deep fry it yes if you don’t deep fry it it doesn’t become round at all if you pan sear it it gets weird size watching lily make meatballs the other day and she seared it on three sides and it created this like rounded pyramid shape thing i was like that’s so far nicole but for all intents and purposes it still eats like a meatball right a nugget sensation when you’re eating it in your mouth is different than a meatball sensation when you eat in your mouth like when you say nugget sensation that’s my new perfume like sensation what is okay so i actually saw another question not to divert topic i saw another question that was about never it was a publication called the takeout that recently wrote a piece about uh nick the giovanni show he made the world’s largest nugget i saw that with ninja ninja yeah and then this publication was like well according to the dictionary nugget has to be small so this is not a nugget because it’s big it’s like well no it’s it’s not a prototypical nugget right it’s not the ideal nugget they should be small i don’t believe a nugget should be a perfect sphere you know what i mean that’s the prototype of it of course a nugget isn’t a prototype a nugget of a medium never sphere but nicole we don’t know meatball is the sphere i’m not talking about anymore we don’t live in a perfect world okay you know he does too like in the podcast room does this approve a point sometimes okay continue for the silent treatment i think okay we need to come up with like a minimum definition of meatball hood right because to me don’t have to have a certain shape you know what i mean you can have what are you talking about yes immediately i agree with you there should be an element of roundness i think there has to be it’s okay we’re getting somewhere elements of roundness okay i don’t know if it’s the intention of roundness that actually matters because if you think about like the meatballs in phu right also some of the best fun all of america is within like three miles correct of y’all uh i grew up in uh little saigon in fountain valley out here please before you all leave to go home just google any vietnamese restaurant and go there and it’s probably going to be super dank yeah we’ve had incredible get the pig ball first so y’all get this reference but the meatballs in there they are not round right they’re very flat and the term meatball you know what are you talking about oh the meat how flat are they they’re they’re like sliced so maybe at one point okay it’s a sliced meatball at that point it was a round tip okay but after you like does the desserts you’re not making any sense right now i uh meatball keep hitting the table you order the code right not making any sense right now no i’m telling you well yeah it started out as round and then for ease of of eating they cut it into pieces right so it’s starting to round everything is meatballs around you’ll see the same uh uh relationship going on at the sabaro you get a you get a meatball slice of pizza gold that’s flat and meat on there you know but does that seem like it seems to be a meatball once the shape has changed it’s just a piece of meatball no no but then if you were to take that and you were to fry it that looks like the prototypical nugget ergo as a nugget radicalist i believe uh-huh almost everything is a nugget almost everything almost everything is this a nugget i said almost don’t be able to do this free water heck yeah yeah get some water you’ve been talking for a long time nine water bottles save three bucks well the definition of meatballs according to merriam-webster’s small ball of chopped meat often mixed with bread crumbs and spices and then the definition of a chicken nugget is small pieces of chicken fried in batter chicken nuggets oh this is from britannica chicken nuggets are a battered and breaded product that is marinated before coding is it i always want to sit down with the dictionary wait wait hold on wait read it one more time tanika says and i quote chicken nuggets are a battered and breaded product that is marinated before coding is britannica in like britain oh maybe chicken nuggets in britain are different than maybe chicken nuggets in britain or different than the ones we have here all right brother you think chicken nuggets are different um more you want more um yeah one i would not trust the brit sorry marinated before cody i wouldn’t trust them they call fried chicken sandwiches chicken burgers wikipedia you can’t even use wikipedia in a middle school essay we’re not going to use it for this very intense research based pod i love wikipedia i use wikipedia so much in high school do you know how chicken nuggets were like invented or at least the theory there’s a couple theories because uh every food origin story is absolutely bogus you can take it away take it away okay so like the mcrib for instance right it was literally invented because there was a huge surplus of pork yeah welcome to food history with josh um there was a huge surplus of pork and the american pork board literally went to a food scientist at university of nebraska lincoln and he was like hey can you find some big businesses just to use up all this extra pig meat and so they go to mcdonald’s and they’re like we got a bunch of pig meat what can you do with it and then they’re like ah we put mick in front of everything else pig meat and they were like what if he called it the mcrib instead and they’re like okay and that’s how it was invented and it was similar with chicken we had like so many excess chickens in america especially after world war ii farming really blew up that they were like we can’t keep all this meat fresh so we gotta break it down we gotta freeze it we gotta salt it so it stays fresh what can we do with it and apparently this is when this is in the 70s chicken nuggets really hit the mainstream and they were influenced by chinese-american restaurants serving what britannica kind of described there as you know little marinated nugget meats get some meat you get your orange chicken your general shows the cashew chicken all that and so that’s like how like chinese american restaurants kind of yeah but those are nuggets of chicken they’re not chicken nuggets i wait hold on i agree you agree i agree with that okay we’re getting something because i think a nugget to be a nugget has to be ground and processed yeah i will agree with you on one thing but i also it only took us getting to vidcon to agree josh um but also ground meat is also a meatball i think it’s the shape i think it’s the intent i think it’s the battering i think it’s the deep frying that really sets apart a nugget from a meatball so you think that there is there’s an actual angle at which because we agree that the the breading doesn’t matter that much right because you can certainly bread and fry sure yeah you could but there’s like there’s like the the the thickness are you down with the thickness can you do the disturb thing we need trevor because he’s the only one yeah trevor’s in here we can do it we should have just had wow that was pretty good that was pretty good that did not go as well as i thought it would so you think that there is an actual angle of curvature i do which it transforms from the ball i have a question before i answer that silly silly question josh that’s silly that was very clear and straightforward we made a video where you made meat into different nuggets didn’t you why didn’t you just call it meatballs uh nugget has higher seo value welcome to the creator track panel where we’re talking about how to manipulate the algorithm folks if you ever wonder why we do anything with changing a title or thumbnail it’s like well point two percent more people but it’s really not that much of an art it’s more of a science at that point but no i mean people i think nuggets eat loaf is not as sexy as meatballs is not as sexy as nuggets nuggets are they’re a nostalgic fun food that people like i think there’s like a higher you know uh recognition value in a nugget than a meatball yeah you’re not lobbying that we change all nuggets to balls are you are you sure because i feel like you are i feel like this is exactly what you’re doing we need to recognize them as the same because they’re not they’re made of the same component parts if i go to ikea and i say hey give me the nuggets and they hand me meatballs i’m like what and then if i go to mcdonald’s and i say hey give me some meatballs fam and they give me nuggets i’m like oh thank you like it’s just it’s just not the same can we talk about ikea meatballs and how they’re the most never had them are they good you guys hold on wait wait wait wait wait a second reaction to that defend ikea meatballs in six [Music] good words they are amazing they are amazing and good five yeah one more end it with the yeah period okay i see that um they’re just i ate a lot of frozen meatballs growing up they’re so squishy how do they get the bounce i feel like you could just bounce it into a basketball hoop or smee of course no legally we cannot say that i’m just kidding sorry ikea and everybody uh we’re gonna confiscate your recording vices if you have that on we cannot handle another protracted lawsuit in the mythical kitchen have you have you ever been to a place josh or a family gathering of sorts i’ve been to a place before nicole go on where they put like skewers in the chicken nuggets like me either because they only do that with meatballs because you use your hands because you use your hands to pick up a nugget because normally the meatballs are coated or you are dipping them in something okay i feel like when both of us run for congress against each other yeah i feel like this is how it’s going to be this is really you did not support srb 751 you do not okay this is really good practice for us good stuff yeah yeah um everyone vote for our budding political careers out here i feel i don’t i just think that we need to take a stronger stance on what different ground meat products are because here’s the worst you’re trying to lump it all together i’m trying to get them separated because they deserve autonomy josh you’re just trying to lump them all together like a big lumpy meatball before we break it down into their proper parts we need to lump them together nicole no before we can divide it because my worst opinion in all this is that all these are sausages man i don’t think i think the idea of a sausage is it has to sit right a sausage has to sit for a little bit yeah yeah well not all sauces about mcdonald’s breakfast sausage the greatest sausage in the history of sausages and there ain’t no really they scienced the heck out of that one to just like know what my body craves and needs no i’m sorry i don’t sausages need to like sit for a second to kind of like cure in a way yeah but i mean think about the texture thing called the bounce the bounce is what makes sausage we’re always coming back to bouncing nuggets that’s what makes a sausage sausage i never bounced i played what is that thing when you would like jump over someone doordash some like chicken nuggets right now so nicole can bounce them and see what we’re talking about josh i wasn’t doing that anybody have nuggets in their purse first no we don’t have one v do i have purse nuggets no i didn’t pack my purse all they’re in my other bag all the fans of any podcast it would be ours who would have a purse nugget person yeah that’s right to be fair that’s very true i don’t josh i don’t think you i think you were at an impasse here sweetheart yeah i don’t think chicken nuggets are meatballs um don’t no no no no uh but i do think it’s a fun question though i think it’s a fun question i just think they’re separate i think they’re separate i think they’re delicious the way they are i don’t think we need to pit two queens against each other i don’t think we need to lump them together at this point you know a chicken nugget is a chicken nugget a meatball is a meatball and a hot dog is a sandwich what oh man all right i i will officially capitulate on the debate we never shake hands by the way take a picture [Applause] okay cool [Music] listen up y’all it’s time for a hard truth happiness it doesn’t always come from within yeah binging a fun tv show or eating an extra luxurious dessert sparks joy in a different way than finding inner peace or whatever yeah i want a cheesecake right now but another way to truly feel happy and satisfied just off the top of my head i’m thinking maybe reaching level 1000 in best fiends which i’m still working towards by the way i’m on level 368 over here and still going strong nice yeah best fiends is a mobile puzzle game that just fills you with happiness when you play it even if you don’t have an internet connection you collect cool little fiends that become not so little once you power them up so you can defeat tougher challenges and new in-game events are added all the time to keep you on your toes and help you collect all those little fiends like in beach bash if you complete 15 challenges you can get jogger jobs i love jogger jojo she helps you in the race to defeat those darn slugs all my homies love jogger jojo download best beams for free from the app store google play plus earn even more with five dollars worth of in-game rewards when you reach level five that’s friends without the r best fiends [Music] nicole hey josh you’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] i’ve never done that in front of more than just our producer it feels weird it felt natural to me you want to do it again do we well do we want to sing the full song one two one two opinions i like casseroles everyone’s got one and they smell like onions that’s all we got we’ve uh hit about seven words if someone wants to write a full length uh thing we will upload it to us yeah just just tweet a test uh does anyone in the audience have cool food opinions they want to share with the class yeah if y’all want to start lining up does this microphone work come come speak anyone well judge you take your face but we’ll be nice quarterly orderly i’m too short for this okay yeah shortness is a mindset [Applause] this is the exact please state your name uh my name is kathleen hi you guys are the meet and greet earlier yes yes um i think blueberries are overrated i don’t like oh no this is a great opinion oh yeah come on i eat almost a pound of blueberries a day that’s a real statistic in my life i keep it i keep like four sacks of them in the mythical kitchen freezer and sometimes they’ll just be like on the counter because nicole’s like we have things for work that we need to put in the freezer we can’t just store 10 pounds of your blueberries in there well i don’t even enjoy them though blueberries are easily the worst berry i get them because they’re cheap at the store and they’re convenient thank you but no i uh i once met a man who had not eaten a blueberry until he was 30 years old and i watched him eat a blueberry for the first time and he was just what and he ate it and he was like tastes like nothing and i was like yeah you’re right yeah most overrated berry yeah blueberries they don’t do it for me i mean whenever you get a really delicious like pack of blueberries though like fresh ones those are like delicious for the most part blueberries don’t do it for me i love blackberries i love raspberries give me strawberries but blueberries it’s not it did you know strawberries aren’t actually berries yes i did josh we debated it i think once or twice all right that’s uh that’s the most annoying thing that anyone’s ever said to me not you not you the strawberries aren’t berries if they go in my in my super berry surprise sundae at the ihop then it’s a berry but bananas are a berry oh yes they are yeah uh kathleen i agree with you entirely you are validated thank you for your time and honesty yes very brave kathleen thank you hi my name is sasha what’s up sasha how are you doing uh i’m good how about you guys good uh ranch on breakfast potatoes yes or no [Music] when’s the last time you did that okay so the last there’s a very specific moment in which i do put ranch on breakfast potatoes and that is one of my favorite breakfast burritos in the city which it’s like 80 potato which is sometimes what i want because if i’m eating a breakfast burrito sometimes it’s to soak up alcohol from the night before and they give you a pack of ranch and this is like good ranch this is the diner ranch this is the homemade ranch that they definitely just put the ranch seasoning packet into sour cream and milk but it’s really great the ranch hitting the breakfast potatoes wrapped in the tortilla is one of the most pure delightful experiences on this entire earth i love it i like ranch and potatoes yeah that’s a good opinion way to go especially in the morning ranch in the morning ranch in the night i do it all the time and my friends always judge me they’re like why don’t you do ketchup i’m like i don’t want ketchup don’t need them honey i don’t want them hang out with us you don’t need them call your friends right now right now call your friends what what friends she’s doing stuff right now get at your own speed but no i love i do like ranch and breakfast potatoes that sounds really good right now yeah yeah sounds good yeah oh thank you hello my name is alex my opinion is peanut butter and pickles are a good combo yeah we tried this we okay so when we started doing opinions or like casseroles we noticed that like half of the hot takes and you know upsetting opinions were about peanut butter so much peanut butter chocolate you know what any opinions about peanut butter and foods it’s incredible we wish we could try all of these hot takes that people sent us uh and we just simply don’t have the time because we literally we have a spreadsheet of like 3 000. um yeah it’s incredible we’re never gonna run out i love it y’all absolutely ride for your terrible opinions and i respect that uh so we but we did try like 12 of the weird peanut butter ones one day and peanut butter and pickles was the best one that i’d never had before and salty like there’s something like so good about like the combination yeah i like it’s the fatty and the acid for me do you like crunchy peanut butter or smooth um i prefer smooth peanut butter okay like um like sandwiches and stuff but crunchy is really good for cookies okay great but what about with pickles um typically have smooth on hand smooth on hand okay okay nice peanut butter like it’s the the texture combo isn’t it i like it too i mean i love it i think i think peanut butter and pickles is a delicious combination there’s a reason why pregnant women like it because it’s good it’s delicious but yeah i like it a lot i mean have you ever done peanut butter banana and mayonnaise no mayo is disgusting so oh my god that’s rude security that’s rude thank you for your time uh hi i’m tom i that uh orange chocolate is overrated and mint chocolate is the best do you mean orange chocolate like the oranges you like smash well like like the like the terry’s oranges and french and chocolate i just it’s the artificial oil the artificial orange is like not good okay i’m gonna watch out tom watch out so my dad and i whenever uh i was younger that was one of our favorite things to do was to smack a terry’s orange and share it between us so i have a nostalgic feeling for it so i feel personally attacked no i’m just kidding um but i do prefer mint chocolate to orange chocolate for sure there’s something about the way like the the mentholy mint and the in the cooling sensation with the luxurious chocolate just makes a lot of sense not only that orange and chocolate does orange chocolate has its place but i think it’s rooted in nostalgia for me personally but mint chocolate chip ice cream all the way love anything minty chocolatey yum yum yum i’m a big mint chocolate guy i love it man i don’t know if i feel as strongly as you do about the orange and chocolate thing that’s between you and nicole like don’t don’t let me into that uh we recently got andy’s mints in the office big big move i have those in my unlimited bucket of andes mints every day i finish eating like any meal and i’ll grab an andes mint and i feel like i’m leaving the olive garden what are they called after eight minutes is that what they’re called like there’s actually like a like a chocolate mint that’s like the fancy one yeah yeah oh and after eight or something like that yeah those are good i just feel good man that’s you know workplace morale all-time high because of mint chocolate that’s what fuels us it’s like 30 like you know engagement from fans 70 andy’s mints hell yeah thank you thank you oh howdy um so if you’re not like me and you passed math um okay okay no i failed it failed out of algebra two so you’re you’re among friends that makes me feel better yeah you would know that so a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square i believe that a burger well okay i believe that a meatball is a burger but a burger is not a meatball meatball oh there’s a burger butter burger oh okay wait this is interesting so you’re saying a meatball is a burger yeah so you’re defining a burger as roughly anything primarily made of ground meat correct yeah and i i think i would agree with that which if you go to uh britain though or any commonwealth country actually we were i was talking to some folks from india about this yesterday actually um if you put anything on a round bun what we would call a hamburger bun they call it a burger okay you get a fried chicken sandwich like from popeyes say right uh in england and they call that a chicken burger that’s what you were going into before yeah yeah yeah and so i wholeheartedly disagree with that i to me a burger is made of ground meat and that is what makes a burger a burger but i think i would say that once you add bread crumbs eggs anything additional it ceases to become a burger have you had burgers that are like that like mixed like that yeah me too me too i think at that point it’s a meatball too so i think i i respect your opinion because i think it is logically sound but i think i disagree with the fact that any addition to a burger makes it no longer burger and guy fieri also agrees because if you watch triple d you can see like guy fieri’s little passive aggressive mannerisms on that show sometimes uh and if you watch triple d and anybody adds an egg or whatever to a goes he’s like you’re right you’re in me you’re in meatloaf territory now but okay okay yeah uh and i agree with him yeah but i do get i do get your opinion okay but that goes against everything that nicole just said about the the shape of the actual thing because you just said that a burger if it has stuff in it it’s a it’s a meat or wait did i say meatloaf or meatball okay yeah yeah see how it’s hard to keep your opinions yeah there’s something say something five minutes we say something else yeah i don’t know i don’t know i gotta think on this i gotta sleep on this opinion i gotta i gotta this is gonna become an actual hot dog as a sandwich yeah they probably will you never know probably let’s get to go poorly yeah what was your name thanks phil appreciate you man hello yes will very nice hello hi i was at the meet and greet this morning yes yes um what’d you eat for lunch since then i we have not even got to go eat yeah uh and i feel like this is a quick little side opinion i think that a slightly unripe fruit is better than which which ones most of them the ones that are like a little bit tangy and like just a little bit sour and they’re like you have to bite them they’re not like slimy well in like uh persian stores like whenever you go to the persian grocery store there’s a like there’s a huge crazy rush for whenever like unripened fruit is like uh like on the shelves so we have something called like unripe almonds like chocolate bar doom where it’s literally an unripe almond and it’s crunchy i’ve given it to the rest of team i don’t understand this you like sour you’ll like that sour and it’s crunchy and it’s delicious and you’re like how is this going to turn into an almond and then we also have something called gorgeous apps which translates to green tomato but it’s not a green tomato it’s an unripened apricot and those are like sour and crunchy and salty and delicious so i understand where you’re coming from but if i eat a ripe but if i eat an unripe banana i’m like emotionally scarred like bananas banana is like the worst flavor ever for me yeah it like coats your tongue and it’s like sandpapery and it’s just like i don’t need this in my life you know we found out i’m allergic to bananas because every time i would eat a banana before the podcast i would uncontrollably burp in the roof of my mouth and burn and then we eventually figured out it was all the bananas i’d wash it down with a diet dr pepper and that didn’t help i made the burps worse i i feel you i love like um unripe mango or unripe papaya if you like make sure out of it that’s really awesome but i will say i love overripe fruit because ripeness is it’s literally the process of decay happening right sure and there’s something about that like i love overripe melons where you smell it and it almost gives you this bacterial fung people say papaya smells like feet i think i’m just a sicko i’m just a sicko up here sick thoughts man i got sick you get a peach that’s so ripe that you bite into it and juice just runs down yeah that’s good live a little let your fruit raping it depends on the fruit but i think i think you’re you’re in good territory right now i also just real quick feel like tech technically guacamole is technically a jam because it’s a fruit guacamole is simply a jam because it’s a fruit okay so the original the first ever first ever english language guacamole recipe was from it was a pirate in the 1600s the only three ingredients were avocado lime and sugar yum oh oh oh oh that’s definitely a jam someone write this down where annelise producer right there she should try this write these down write these down we’ll credit you for the idea all right hi hello hi my name is twee lon i’m gonna move i’m short all right i apologize i don’t have a food opinion but a food question do you guys know what cheese caves are cheese what cheese caves in missouri cheese caves in missouri the cheesecake plus of cheese that america is horrible i know all about this is that what you’re talking about okay and i’m not sure where in missouri but i know it’s in missouri are you going to try and find them let’s find the cheese caves let’s take it to the streets for those who don’t know in like 1977 there was just like a disgusting surplus of like cheese and to keep like dairy farmers in business carter our president basically demanded that there was like cheese caves so they just stored like a bunch of cheese underneath missouri and so they’re real and you can probably visit them they’re they’re in uh they’re in a deep they’re in a state of deep freeze they’re literally millions of tons of cheese and most of it is if you’ve like heard of the government cheese program which i grew up eating bricks of government cheese that was the way that they were trying to get rid of that cheese surplus that’s now just in caves is they would just cut out bricks and now you hear it in in rap lyrics and all that and the funny thing is though a lot of people think it was bad it was actually really good it was higher quality american cheese than uh say craft or the you know other competitors because it had strict fda standards behind it it might have been a radio lab episode um another research research-based podcast like ours um that that went into it and uh they talked to somebody who tested uh the cheese safety and purity standards it was really interesting if you want to go cave spelunking yeah do you want to go i’m in it sounds like fun let’s do it i’m down you know hit me up on instagram um okay so my name is kate hi hi this is timely after what 296 but um this feels like a very hot take cheese is very bad yes no true thank you i agree cheese cheese is disgusting we took we took we took the milk of another animal for its young and we let it rot i freaking love cheese man we add little colors to it oh and then we put in little boys and nuts on it can i tell you something it’s awful no no you are sick you are disgusting i can’t look at you my dad made me a shirt embroidered with the word cheese on it because he knew how much i loved it if that’s not the cutest thing and most disgusting thing in the world i don’t know it is cheese rocks i know it’s gross no cheese okay cheese is gross in theory but also so delicious like who doesn’t love like like bread cheese bread yum you know you know how i know you look not on a t-shirt dad oh i know you love cheese how do you know paul is popping the lactate out your purse nicole is like she’s like she needs lactate like skittles now it’s exciting um my cocktail of choice is two tums one lactate shot of pepto done for the day so embarrassing so true it’s nicole pre-gaming for the parties yeah that’s me uh also my husband always has an emergency case of lactate in his car because he knows nicole loves dairy and she can’t live without it but why do you think it’s disgusting is it the taste is it the idea what is it that you hate about cheese well i don’t like the idea but that’s personally the taste makes me sick like all cheeses i’m like not lactose intolerant i just don’t like cheese my friends will like try and sneak it into my foods like i won’t notice and then i take a bite and i’m like there’s something off it’s because it’s rotten they’re so clever they’re like oh it’s white chocolate so wait that happened i haven’t fallen for it yet why are your friends so committed to getting you to eat cheese i don’t know what are they do they work for big dairy are they representing the cheese caves out here they’re going to the chocolate caves no cheese games cheesecakes they’re like it’s just white and yellow chocolate i swear it’s okay so funny calling around on the pause so funny but no i mean i understand why you don’t like cheese it makes sense tastes good i don’t know i think i think cheese can ruin a dish too i think everything i think that’s it would be better without cheese including pizza yes i was just talking about this he was just talking about this with somebody about i like to go to an italian restaurant and just get a marinade i don’t need the cheese what are you talking about yeah no i’d rather just have the bread and the like tomato and basil and sometimes if there’s too much i um take it off that’s fine i mean do whatever you want beautiful i don’t know anymore i see you and respect you i just need the bread bread’s good i have friends who don’t like bread and refuse to eat it i don’t know about that thank you for letting me feel brave enough to tell people i don’t like cheese thanks for letting me crawl underneath i’m going to no no no no i’m going right back we need to bond together you know we’ll split up the pizza thank you [Music] hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythical heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability hi i’ve like a weird food preference so ever since i was little i would only ever eat lettuce that my mom gave me if i ate it with ketchup lettuce and ketchup yeah like this makes so much sense to me because um i feel like every time i would have a burger i would just put extra lettuce on the side because my mom’s like french fries bad so um i would like use the lettuce and dip it in the ketchup and mustard instead of french fries same and that is a perfectly adequate salad iceberg lettuce dipped in ketchup to me delicious i’ve done that when i’m like right now there’s some days you get home and you’re like i don’t i know i need to eat vegetables but like i don’t want to put any effort into it and so i’ve really just taken like a half ahead of iceberg in a bottle of ketchup and sat in front of my tv and that’s yeah that’s unique especially when my fiance is out of town and it’s just like no holds barred i’m not using a single plate i’m just i’m bringing the trash can with me to the tv so funny it’s disgusting but yeah i have done that because the way i view it thousand island is a salad dressing most people know it as a burger condiment now no it’s it’s for sure 40 ketchup man yeah might as well make it a hundred french dressing catalina dressing that’s all ketchup ketchup’s a salad dressing do you want to make that a podcast i’ll do it whatever i have nothing better to do so my mom used to actually instead of giving me pieces of letter she used to give me the middle of the lettuce did you you know what i got the core yeah she used to be cool so oh really so my mom used to feed it to me because it was her way of saying i love you because it’s like the best part she also does it with celery she does it with like the middle i think it’s because it’s like the middle of the of the vegetable like the mid like the heart whatever so like i used to dip that in ketchup you gave it to your lizard yeah like though you really love your lips it’s not the bottom cord the middle baby leaves josh oh we’re talking about different things yeah the little the little like like you know the little middle part like this i love that lizard though [Music] guys that’s a good thank you for your opinion thank you i’m katherine and first i just want to say that’s my cousin that you hit in the face with an oreo rude allegedly allegedly josh lost a pancake making contest to me and then he decided to just throw bags of coconut and oreos at people yeah well okay we know that producing a cooking show you know uh if people don’t take the extra groceries home they’re gonna end up going to waste so i decided to throw the groceries into the crowd you’re welcome sorry to your cousin though allegedly sorry and this might be kind of a sore subject but i feel like the discussion around pilk is fake i don’t get how anyone could like it it’s gross okay so uh pilk what you’re referring to it’s a it’s a portmanteau of the words pepsi and milk and it is i like to do a ratio of about 60 40 milk to pepsi and that makes it worse that makes it worse i thought it would be the opposite the worst thing is that one i genuinely like it so i apparently it is an english commonwealth thing my mom’s from south africa and they called it a brown cow there but also laverne and shirley apparently did not know that’s where the main reference comes from but big laverne and shirley crowd over here [Applause] [Music] are they alive still um one of them i hope so anyway [Laughter] it’s the way i think about it it’s a it’s a root beer float that has simply melted what are you gonna throw the root beer float away if it melts no you’re going to drink the pilk well ice cream isn’t just milk yeah close enough i will say turning the pilk into cheese milk cheese pilco fresco that was really good shout out v she was the mastermind behind pilcol fresco i don’t like pilk i don’t get pilka i’m not going to drink pilk ever again yeah we just legit had a a sack of wet brown cloth it was incredible just pilk hanging and fermenting over our sink for a couple days yeah i mean it came out that’s disgusting yeah yeah yeah definitely it was good though but pilk is real also i need a shirt that says that joke is disgusting unfortunately yeah yes hi hi joey hey cheesecake is a pie oh okay this is good hold on hold on don’t no david don’t you clap for yeah i agree that a new york style cheesecake is a pie but there are several other styles of cheesecake that do not like the crust like that japanese souffle cheese salvadoran uh quesadilla which is a literal cake made with cheese sure josh are outliers but cheesecake is a pie i agree with you 100 you’re so well you’re right thank you you too you’re right you want to come up here doesn’t have the authority no we have to come do that we have to come to a consensus oh we don’t no we don’t we never come to consensus also a boston cream pie is a cake yeah everybody knows that oh sorry wow thank you thank you thank you hello i hit you with an oreo no i caught it and then my boyfriend dropped half of it okay get wrecked [Laughter] uh anyways my controversial opinion is that taquitos work really well as chopsticks oh yeah wait taquitos or takis taquitos full-length taquitos we’ll link the ketos i discovered this because i had severe bigger hands wait show me your hands there’s like solid like hands yeah i have um especially freshman year one of the first days of high school severe social anxiety i forgot to grab a fork when i had taquitos and mexican rice and i just sat down with people that i met i was like hey can i sit with you um which is totally like so weird anyways uh i started using my taquitos as chopsticks because i was too scared to go back in the lunch line be like i forgot to grab a fork so i made friends and they were just watching me eat rice with taquitos wow how did they react to that because one i love the you put all of yourself out there dude that’s incredible you know old i love it yeah um they said like they told they talk about it now they’re like that was just so weird i think it’s so awesome innovation at its finest man being a nervous kid at a lunch table oh yeah i wasn’t even at a table i was on the ground outside i was not cool i i love sitting on the floor big floor sitter i yeah screw chairs something for floor sitting yeah you’re in your chairs you hip inside i think that’s awesome i would love to learn how to do that i don’t have the dexterity to do that i can’t use normal chopsticks but like if you shove it hard enough it sticks i thought you meant like like you you you only use taquitos now that you don’t even use normal chopsticks i’m going to the sushi bar i’m bringing my own taquitos and it’s going to be weird you say put them in the microwave for three minutes please i must use them to eat it’s a really cultured dish sushi with the cuties yeah yeah i was like edible utensils i love the idea of an edible utensil so i use those long thin breadsticks as chopsticks really spaghetti with long italian breadsticks i eat uh chips with chopsticks you ever just use i don’t get my fingers dirty you ever like not find a spoon and you use a single tostitos scoop as a reusable spoon yeah thank you thank you yeah it’s after like the dip it dissolves i used to do i used to do the lunchables the discs you remember the tortilla discs that were like hard as plastic like those little plastic toys i would reuse those thank you for your time thank you thank you for coming to our literal ted talk hello hi i’m juliette um so i have um so i have like food fears those people um and so okay i’m like i’ll like freak out and like so the smell really bothers me um for like so if someone’s eating a salad around me and i like smell it and it’s like airborne i’ll i usually have to leave the room um what kind of salad like anything with like vinaigrette and stuff so the vinegar smell bothers you i cannot do it but apparently my mom like drank bottles of it when she was pregnant with me wow so very odd hardcore yeah yeah um so now i’m i just my body goes into like almost shock so i don’t know it’s weird when’s the last time you had vinegar i’ve nev i think i smelled it once like someone was like here oh this is great smell this and i’m like what is it they’re like just smell it and like and i like i was like oh my oh no i like i i recoiled so bad like into the other room like i was like oh like i’m dizzy it wasn’t it was a no you need to find like a non-vinegar-based salad dressing to try and like wean you into salads also dressings in general and like most con are you not a sauce person i’ve known a lot of people who are anti-sauce oh no don’t freak out stay calm among friends but like i have an idea i have an idea uh buy like a nose plug and then just put one drop of vinegar with one drop of honey on your tongue and then just like wean yourself into like liking vinegar technically neither of us are medical doctors i’m not no i’m really good at the medical portion in jeopardy though like he really is he really is really good i know all like this prefixes and stuff like she’s all like pretty good ankrious tinnitus but uh but i don’t know i think i think uh mixing it with sweet might help i think i should go to a therapist i love my therapist man she’s the best i’ll give you her number she’s great yeah yeah she’s great thank you my god thank you you’re adorable if this is what gets you to actually go to therapy that’d be hilarious like job done oh my gosh of course hi i’m olivia hi um unfortunately i’m right about every opinion so you’re gonna have to deal with that you and me both i guess i’d like to preface with water has flavors there are differences of water yes but people who enjoy water are objectively weirder than people who enjoy milk people who enjoy water are weirder than people who enjoy milk do you mean like people are like i can only have water from from sparklets no just people who their beverage of choice is water i agree instead of their beverage being milked just people who enjoy milk at all because they are very alienated what is your main drink of choice college has changed me it’s now diet coke but before it would have been some kind of juice yeah some kind of juice okay i went through the same evolution one i hate that i drink this i wish i’ve never seen you drink this much water i know i don’t like it i hate it it’s shocking water tastes like sand it’s bad water doesn’t taste like sand ugh it’s gross don’t throw it you got it [Laughter] you simply gotta toss it nailed it thank you um no way i mean water’s good [Laughter] [Applause] i’m so sorry oh no it’s begun that’s why i’ve been drinking flat water because i’ve been speaking so much and i was like you don’t need to be burping on stage dude i forgot there you go i think that people who only drink water they’re like um they’re the type of people who are like instead of eating a slice of cake eat a carrot it’s like but i want i don’t think that at all it was our substitute good once you have a glass of water because i want something that tastes better water exists your body is how much it is a miracle that we’ve made something taste this your body is 80 of this stuff it needs it would you would you eat would you eat anything your body is made of because your body blood i’d eat spit shailene woodley just eats dirt because it has iron in it or something there’s that water’s good water is important to drink i used to hate i used to be like you i’m like anti-i just didn’t like well i just don’t like drinking water but it actually is like good for you and sometimes in life josh let me speak sometimes in life you got to do things you don’t want to do because it’s better for you like drinking water like like you know going to therapy like you know going for a walk around the block for 15 minutes i don’t want to do that but sometimes you have to because it’s going to better you in the future so drink more water gatorade has elect gatorade has electrolytes electricity has what [Laughter] we deserve more out of life than water yes thank you thank you thank you life is water all life forms are based in water coke oh god this man hello my name is aiden uh and i think that mcdonald’s has the best chicken sandwich spicy or otherwise you’re not you’re not gonna find him you work for mcdonald’s okay the clown down let me see clown i wanna talk to him i don’t agree with that you’re talking about their their new one right like not not the mcchicken you’re talking about their new premium you like that one i feel like it’s dry okay one one thing what please see chicken sandwich at mcdonald’s is not it’s the sauce oh yeah well i tried to order a spicy chicken sandwich at mcdonald’s without the sauce and they’re like that’s just a chicken sandwich yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s one product the great i okay so the chicken sandwich wars we’ve talked about this a lot uh popeyes changed the game so much because their chicken was so big it was so juicy it was so crunchy the bun was an entire redesign they’re pickles and literally after that came out every fast food restaurant was like we need to figure out how to make this not suck remember when someone got shot over the popeye sandwich yeah that was crazy yeah big fan um that was great that was crazy that was a wild time in history people were getting shot over sandwiches i remember when burger king was advertising their new one they were like we’ve tested over six different pickle shapes and i’m like weird thing i don’t know but yeah i mean like the ridges on the pickles they were like literally like yeah we tried six different shapes of pickles to get this right and then mcdonald’s dropped it and i was like they’re not gonna screw this up they’re the biggest fast food restaurant in the world that’s not subway and then where i had it and i was like yeah it’s okay and so i get it uh what’s the de gustavus known as disbu tandem that it anyone speak latin in the crowd no i wish i took london in high school there is no accounting for taste so i respect it my favorite chicken sandwich as of right now is the jollibee chicken sandwich with the fresh jalapenos on it if you guys ever see a jollibee jollibee that sandwich with the fresh jalapenos and the crispy chicken and then you get a side of honey musty i like that they’ve got some knuckles you got buckets of spaghetti there and i like their spaghetti buckets oh yeah the spaghetti buckets are so good thank you thank you thank you is this our last opinion last one we got one more last opinion it’s a good finale do you think you can handle the pressure i hope so what are you doing to people um okay my great opinion um hopefully i don’t get like hashtag cancelled for this one um i think croissants are terrible croissants are terrible why do you think croissants are terrible what about them is gross or like they’re just so dry and like yeah wait wait okay they’re just so dry and there’s so many better breads and like things to eat than i could be just too too flaky yeah yeah the flakes bother you yeah i don’t think you’re worth getting cancelled over it’s okay i would rather just have yeah who’s going to cancel you like the first i like danishes the french army is just going to store that josh speaks french everyone he’s a stupid american that’s his favorite thing to say in french i understand why you feel that way if i could i mean danishes especially cheese danishes are so much better than croissants like filled with chocolate so i kind of understand except trevor who is our baker boy used to be a croissant maker so he would probably get really upset with what you just said but he’s not here yeah certainly ever on a rafting trip in idaho yeah yeah i don’t like danishes either oh well well i’m with you get out i’m just kidding just give me give me a nice give me like a good yeasted dough good bread a good donut that’s what i’m there for don’t need the fancy lamination on the pastries if the french army is coming for you they’re coming for me too but i’m gonna i’m gonna negotiate a deal where i hand you over to them and then so just know that just know that thanks no problem all right now we got one more one more two more two more we gotta okay last one this is the last one no no no no no quick we’ll go quick my name is patrick and when i was little my family went to denny’s and i put i ordered i ordered the pizza and they said oh what side you want i was like grapes right uh-huh and i put the grapes on the pizza since i was little my family made fun of me for it i’m just like i made the argument it’s like pineapple on pizza sir i don’t want to hear it i don’t want to hear it we’ve played we’ve put grapes on pizza we’ve put grapes on pizza before it’s great it’s a great grape it’s delicious love it oh my dad i’ll tell your dad call your dad right now i’ll tell him okay go go go go go make sure you guys are bought hi hi what’s your opinion i’m ruth ruth cilantro is disgusting okay unfortunately that’s all the time we have today thank you so much for coming by a hot dog to the sandwich it’s been real everybody uh truly thank you if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter and mythical chef right handy’s out there with the opinion casserole uh what 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