Buckminster Fuller once asked why work useless jobs when technology and automation can let us lead more meaningful lives what the heck are you talking about dude I just really don’t want to make a pie this Thanksgiving this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich Welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host Josh sharer and I’m your host Nicole anaiety and today Nicole we’re talking all about Buckminster Fuller I’m I’m Wikipedia in this individual I really don’t know that much about him all I know he was kind of like Pro Universal basic income in the sense that he thought automation would like allow people to not be in the workforce and this whole idea that people like need to have a job to fulfill a role in society he sort of I disagree you think that people like should have a no I don’t think people should have jobs oh I agree yeah yeah so much Automation and why would you need that I think the best thing for us to do is everything to be made by robots and we just chill and then we have another Renaissance of like painting and art and yeah creativity yeah I’ve said that to people before and they looked at me like I was like sort of my most radical my most radical idea politically is that Subway sandwiches should be free in the way that our government provides free clean drinking water to everybody I think we should provide free Subway sandwiches because to me that’s like the lowest level of food it’s like it’s like clean drinking water it’s like I gotta get a little turkey sub with lots I love Subway it’s I love good clean drinking water speaking of potable water speaking of of turkey sandwiches from Subway let’s talk about Thanksgiving shall we great Segway thank you Nicole we’re talking about the one thing you should never cook from scratch on Thanksgiving what should you in the Buckminster Valerian idea let automation take care of we have grocery stores right people who are paid to make ready-made food for you what’s the one thing you should never make and I think we should do this Fantasy Draft style Nicole you look okay let’s see football yeah uh my husband is in two basketball ones and two football ones oh basketball’s tough yeah I want to straight up steal from Ian carmel’s fantastic podcast all fantasy everything on the show oh what does he do I think oh they turn everything into a fantasy football draft which I think like like for example like like flavors like the one thing you should never cook on Thanksgiving no like the like flavors of Kool-Aid like yeah yeah like they’ll do stuff like that yeah oh that’s cool okay oh yeah like different seeds different seeds the the eighth seed is versus the first seed Oh I thought you were talking about like doing a Fantasy Draft of seeds like sorghums oh stupid there’s no way you thought it was something no way uh so I Nicole I want to give you the first overall draft pick of what is the one thing you should never cook on Thanksgiving really yeah me yeah what do you think what an honor um for me honestly I hate going to um Thanksgiving and the pies are bad yes bye that that was yeah Jonathan Taylor that was gonna be my number one overall pick too Jonathan Taylor Thomas I think a great the little kid virtuous life he’s not a little kid anymore he’s like a 40 plus year old man he’ll always be a little kid for me I think he got a graduate degree from Stanford maybe yeah and now he’s just living on the low there’ll be like a Paparazzi photo once for seven years of them just like walking their dog that’s a good way to live your life great way to live your life pie pie pie pie pie from scratch pie from scratch unless you’re good at it yeah like don’t attempt to make a pie if you’ve never made a pie before don’t attempt to make your own crust please just don’t don’t even try it just buy store-bought like just buy it from the store even though we do have a great recipe for a delicious pumpkin pie oh we do have a good don’t get me wrong yeah it’s a good it’s a good pumpkin pie recipe but if you’ve never made it before it’s I saw a tick tock one time that said Thanksgiving is not the time to experiment yeah don’t experiment on Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving experiment maybe two weeks before you know you have the time you have the patience on Thanksgiving Day everything goes to like crap anyways so so don’t even like a pie a custardy pie on Thanksgiving why would you make that unless you know what you’re doing uh not to every time I explain something for my childhood you seem to get sad I do I cried last time you know life’s weird uh everyone’s family situation different sometimes the holidays are hard but I remember growing up we would make everything on Thanksgiving just me my dad my brother from what we considered scratch but it was like you know green beans green bean casserole scratch where it’s like you can mine one can with another can with the canned top yeah sure and that’s it but something would always go wrong yeah I believe it always end up in a huge fight yeah I believe it and then there was one year where my dad went to the hospital because we had the really flimsy turkey pan you tried to take the turkey out but it it spilled all over him we got third degree burns on his arm ouch ouch ouch that’s the result no one got in a fight because it was just like oh so Dad doesn’t die from this no um but anyway it is yeah Thanksgiving is already an emotionally fraught time totally we’re coming off of midterm elections you already got a bridge is that why people are stressed out maybe I don’t know who’s stressed out you stressed out for Thanksgiving absolutely not no me neither wait why not I don’t do anything on Thanksgiving do you not celebrate at all I know I go to Thanksgiving I just don’t cook for it oh man it’s not my responsibility how have you Nicole a food media Maven how have you not been the person to get roped into cooking well I I make a dessert maybe a pie not always sometimes I make a pie sometimes I make a bread sometimes I make another dessert but and when it comes to the main dishes they like throw me a bone they’re like we know you work hard you don’t have to do anything and I’m like thank you and I just I’m like thank you so much for understanding but my sister-in-law is doing Thanksgiving this year so I think I might make something because I just think it’s nice and she’s a sweet girl and I want to help her out but other than that like they’re just like you work too hard your whole life is cooking you don’t need to do it on the day that requires cooking I’m cooking I’m cooking the entire Thanksgiving meal this year it’s ew really small it’s just gonna be me Julia and her mom okay that’s but I’m still cooking giant trays of everything oh um but I’m actually really grateful for it because what I’m gonna do Julia and her mom are gonna be posted up watching the Macy’s day parade because that’s something Julia was in the Macy’s day parade that’s where she met Corbin effing blue that’s so cute that is so cute she was like a dancer yeah she was like she was like on the float or like she was on the floor she was on the floor she was on the floor okay well float dancing really important what float uh I don’t know Jules if you’re listening uh call me but but no so they’re gonna watch that and so I am just going to be prepping mountains of vegetables I’m going to chop all the mirepoix from scratch and I’m going to have football on my phone and they’re gonna be like come here look at this balloon you’re like wow oh my God that balloon’s crazy oh wow Al Roker he’s so congenial and then I’m gonna go back to watching football and cooking so I like that for myself okay so what’s your seed or whatever what’s my what is your what’s this my second what is my second round draft pick I guess okay Pie’s the big one because like you said if you’re good at pie if you’re good at Pie make a pie but if you’re not dope if you’re not don’t yeah no practice for three years maybe a week or two but okay whatever um so that’s big I’m going to say controversial opinion right here you should not cook a single fresh vegetable ever on Thanksgiving what cans baby use the cans wow really let’s talk about the American Cannon of Thanksgiving right here okay sure it is uh in my mind right mac and cheese is a new thing that’s gonna be on my table every single year from mac and cheese new for me but green bean casserole cream mushroom soup green beans French’s onions turkey gravy stuffing a sweet potato and a Savory potato okay and then cranberry sauce oh no dude stupid stupid oh my God yeah yeah it should actually be number one this this happened to me in my fantasy football draft no no I was like I’m not drafting Derek Henry I’m gonna take Devonte Adam this guy needs to be watch receiver one Nicole because I believe in John I believe in McDaniels offense I believe in the Josh McDaniels offense yeah didn’t um Green Bay win yesterday yeah they did good and then um didn’t also the Vikings get like a really crazy um touchdown yeah because there was a fumble and it was intercept it was fourth down I’m sorry I’m so sorry we need to take a quick break from the podcast and teach Nicole about football um okay so the Vikings had fourth down at the goal line and they failed yes yes and then that became first down for the other team the other team but but what was the other Buffalo Bills probably the bills the bills but but but the bills now they’re backed up so they’re in 10 years position oh because of the because so was it at the one yard line correct okay wow they’re at the opposite one and so if they get tackled In The End Zone that’s a safety that’s two points and they have to give the ball away and we weren’t well that’s not what happened no it wasn’t like that people thought that was the worst case scenario but they got Nicole they got Josh Allen old Butterfingers am I right no here’s the thing he’s six five two fifty they’re like all he’s gotta do he’s the one of the best quarterback sneakers quarterback Runners you’ve ever seen in your life fumbles the dang snap I don’t care if he has a UCL injury in his oh yeah we can okay so official number one cranberry sauce yes but I will say this I have had a homemade cranberry sauce that is unlike any cranberry sauce I’ve ever had how they do it it is my it is my husband’s moms older sisters cranberry sauce husband’s mom I met her she’s nice no you never met her um no you haven’t met this one your husband’s Mom oh yeah you’ve met her no he doesn’t he’s like tall David and his brother look nothing no they don’t use black hair just spiky hair what is wrong boy band hair yeah that was an accident it’s a hebreak it’s like a Old Testament Michael and David Michael and David okay good so uh it’s David’s mom doctor David’s is this what you talk this is how you talk to you about Thanksgiving God I would absolutely run away ugh headache it is David’s mom’s oldest sister’s cranberry sauce and she takes whole cranberries and then she muddles them with saffron lemon and juices from the turkey and it’s like a little and a little bit of sour cherry juice I believe nobody knows how to make it blue she’s the oh yes she’s the only one who knows how to make it and it is impeccable dang it is something that no one knows how to make other than Mahin khanum and she does such a good job and that changed the cranberry world for me because I also love the canned stuff too but this is just different this is like it should be illegal it’s so good but I understand that that’s a very unique experience and that most people should probably just use a canned stuff what if okay because here’s here’s a crazy thing we both instinctively went we forgot about it because we didn’t we don’t like take any notes to this podcast no no but we forgot about cranberry sauce at the first overall pick that’s why Pi went yes but going back we were both like oh cranberry sauce is the obvious choice obviously and I’ve always been somebody who said like yeah get the canned stuff don’t even get the whole cranberry get the deal get the jellied yeah it’s like not good and also doesn’t make sense to eat with turkey it’s not meant to be good it’s meant to cut through all the richness that’s what I believe the purpose of cranberries but it’s not even like a sauce it’s a gel it’s Jello dude it’s dessert it is a sour it is a cranberry Chalet but it needs to be there it needs to be no it’s not because people before us said it needs to be there okay that’s a good point and I understand we’re trying to cut cultural you know traumas and stuff and we’re trying to you know create a new create a new Thanksgiving dinner table philosophically and also in reality I get that but it tastes good it cuts through this stuff all that rich mac and cheese all that mashed Tater it cuts through it’s actually very nice it’s necessary why is it a Jello why isn’t it just a sauce has anybody asked why is the cranberry a Jello it’s called sauce it’s a Jello it’s mingellia sauce no for lamb no it’s jelly it’s jelly but it’s like a sauce it acts as a sauce but like cranberry like you don’t I’m wondering if it’s all that one pectin in cranberries I believe to be a natural coagulant yes of course I bet you everybody knows that I haven’t looked at the Ocean Spray cranberry sauce recipe or ingredients list but I feel like there’s probably supplemental jelly I would like to think so as well right but I because I was thinking the other day completely independently this podcast I would love to make a lovely like cranberry mustard and something really Savory with the drippings of the turkey sauce to put on it oh great right because like you got the gravy already that’s just heavy Savory aromatic me Umami I do want something to cut through that but I don’t have to eat a bite of jello as a palette cleanser on my turkey so maybe it’s not cranberry so maybe it’s not cranberry cranberry is not the number one pick now is that what you’re saying I don’t know that I feel like that’s such old wisdom that it feels this is Nicole this is using a tight end in the first round why did you watch I did what Travis Kelsey going off why did you why did you make this so hard on us to do it in seed form what you made this so much harder I know but Nicole the point of doing something difficult is to get greater results it’s like Dan Campbell for the Lions you know that’s the reason he pushes guys so hard in the locker room Nicole Skye I hate it I am literally wearing a Philadelphia Eagles t-shirt and my college letterman jacket because why it’s cold that’s when I peeked oh and it’s cold foreign on Monday November 28th we got some great deals for Cyber Monday if you head over to mythical.com we got 20 off site wide 30 off our Ultimate Gift guide and check out our new 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yeah I like I enjoy turkey I was I was at the gym today and then my trainer was like I freaking hate turkey turkey’s the worst meat it’s disgusting why is your trainer a bridge no no no I’m driving do you see how a giant my back is getting a giant Bridge he’s very sweet but uh he’s like he’s like I hate turkey nobody makes turkey good it’s disgusting and I’m like rail riding a hobo I’m like I’m like no turkey’s good you just have it bad all the time but nobody is out there cooking turkeys for people on Mad skill to pick up but maybe there should be even the best there are people that cook turkeys on mascara like you can get a smoked turkey but it costs so much money how much is a smoked turkey I I couldn’t die I think I paid like well over a hundred dollars for smoked turkey wow the fancy barbecue restaurant one year wow especially because turkeys are on sale for like 80 cents a pound by the time Thanksgiving not anymore not this year actually Thanksgiving turkeys are more expensive than chickens son of a biscuit son of a basket inflation is too dang High Nicole it’s it’s because I skimmed an article didn’t read it skimmed it um every turkey is bad every turkey when I say turkey I mean a whole cooked turkey and like what about a special cooked turkey even spatchcock turkey I’ve gone back and forth on this I’ve gone back if you Nicole if you have something to say what about pieces of turkey what about peace what about turkey that is just drumsticks I would love I would love love love to fully break down a turkey and cook that all properly so do that because here’s the I I think I might but I’m saying a whole but most people know they do a whole roast bird they could do either even with batchcock it doesn’t cook at the proper tent because breasts like if you wet boobies big old turkey titties but if you like cook a breast to the proper internal temp which FDA would say 160 I say 153. pull it at 140 let it get up to 153 you’re probably gonna be fine um FDA is you know they want you to overcome Josh has no idea what he’s saying right now and you will get food poisoning yeah don’t just cook it to the proper temperature please if he wants his turkey breast Rosie let him eat it Rose yeah one is the government ever steered us wrong in anything uh anyways Nicole so podcast about what things you should or shouldn’t cook on Thanksgiving I’m I’m arguing that you should not cook a whole turkey we’ve done we don’t we’ve done Nicole busting turkey meds and we’ve cooked really great turkeys a ChapStick fell Nicole when we did busting turkey Mist we found out the best way to cook a turkey right yeah yeah dry brine yeah or do we wet Brian I don’t remember me neither it’s been so long and we’ve done so much I’m gonna say wet Brian wet brine turkey and then you base the hell out of it with butter and you get the side to an internal temp of like you know 145 150 or something let it carry over however thighs and legs especially turkey are much better slow cooked why are you I’m stretching Oh I thought you were showing off your own turkey legs you’re like if I’m a turkey where my arms are thighs I don’t know because turkeys they have like these are yeah these are wings I guess I don’t know thighs and legs are best when internal temp reaches like 190 to 200 they’re better yet yeah yeah you’re right when they’re smoked when they’re slow cooked yeah but not everybody has the capacity to do that so should they not partake in the tradition just because it’s going to turn out bad but what if somebody could do that for him about Minister Fuller’s right it’s expensive well I know it’s expensive at this point we can afford a hundred dollars it is one time a year you know are you gonna have a bad turkey your family’s been pissed off your family’s happiness do you mean to tell me that you are allowing capitalism to ruin Thanksgiving or to better Thanksgiving what are you saying no I’m I’m saying that capitalism is necessarily listen we live in a society we don’t need to talk about cabinets no but is there a case for not cooking your own turkey well my dad hates turkey so we never have turkey at our thing well that’s that’s the other case is there a case where it’s not cooking a turkey at all yeah we just do chicken a lot of the time yeah it’s a better bird better bird easier bird faster bird I am with you that I I like turkey though I love the idea of biting into a drumstick or like fighting over the wishbone like I like that stuff there’s something again it’s traditional and it makes you feel I don’t know like makes you feel good at least it makes me feel good like that Norman Rockwell painting do you know of course I know the one you’re talking freedom from wants love that photo I wish I had that is the American dream right there that photo that old school lady that doesn’t know how to work oh you’re talking about the diner one no I’m not wait what are you talking about I’m talking about the old white lady that’s the whole like okay yeah I think you’re talking about the diner no her name is probably Agnes and she’s happy and her husband’s name is probably I don’t know yeah she doesn’t Roger she doesn’t have to work she’s all hopped up on Valium and diet pills yeah it sounds like fun it puts you sleep diet pills get you up in the morning vacuum yeah she’s just making turkeys and we have freedom from one because we beat the Nazis is that what it’s about yeah that’s that’s actually I believe I really enjoy that you’re probably getting a poster it’s great I like that poster good propaganda good thank you a turkey on every table sure what do you think about people that make mashed potatoes from the box for Thanksgiving oh that was gonna be one of my wait whose draft pick is it mine yeah I went cranberry but then we we retrofit cranberry back at number one and pies are now number two yeah so now it’s back to you on the snake draft for three let’s take um mashed potatoes we know it’s my pick why it’s a snake draft it’s my pick okay go ahead mashed potatoes I’ve had such bad mealy gross mashed potatoes I’ve made bad mealy gross mashed potatoes yeah their mashed potatoes are difficult especially you read some recipe that’s like make pum puree throw it in the food processor and then you do it and it’s glue Nicole it’s [ ] you like you pull it and then it you [ ] your bathroom you get the yeah like the the pace that’s inside the [ __ ] gun all over the bathroom point is I’ve had mashed potatoes that are really gluey and bad yeah you know when they’re never glowy or bad from a box but rehydrated with butter and milk yeah they’re good it’s good it’s good are you are would you abide by going to someone’s home and they do not Nicole they do not serve you fresh mashed potatoes they serve you box mashed potatoes you’re gonna be mad I don’t think no I wouldn’t I wouldn’t I would right if something feels wrong it’s classists it’s wrong it’s wrong it’s wrong it’s wrong and it’s not fair but no it’s not it’s not fair to any but we need to be honest okay okay fine fine we need to discover where that comes from no let me tell you if if you are able to season and cook down the the flex properly sure it’s acceptable but I’m not gonna have a cow and be like you suck at cooking I’m not gonna do that I might go in the car and just be like those mashed potatoes were instant weren’t they and then yeah they were like maybe that’ll happen Okay but how do you feel about lying to people all the time so I feel pretty good I feel pretty good about it I do I do it often yeah same same but like not for like stupid things like magic like if someone says are these mashed potatoes instant or are they made from actual potatoes I’ll say they’re made I’ll be like it’s my secret recipe like I’ll I’ll yeah I’ll secure the information oh you know I’ll just go around I won’t directly lie I’ll do the things that politicians do during debates yeah where they ask them a question and they just answer an entirely different question yeah they make are these potatoes homemade and I’ll be like that’s the problem with America today is that crime in our streets is too high and our kids don’t have after school programs can you have to be like so boxed can you ask me uh Nicole are these mashed potatoes instant or homemade I put so much milk and butter in them it’s delicious eat it yeah what do you think oh I think that when we look at a high density Urban housing no no no what do you think what do you think whenever I say that does that mean box or fresh or do you not I would be I would completely forget that I asked you the question right yeah yeah that’s how you lie the point of propaganda is not to get people to believe falsehoods it’s to scramble people’s brains so much that they don’t care about what’s true and false yeah it’s like the question that you asked the question that you ask is so unimportant but I know you want to know how much stuff I put in there right yeah that’s what you care about that’s who you’re there for what else to move is to take the box mashed potatoes and then like you add some scallions to them yeah a little bit of cream cheese yeah and do a fresh Cracked Pepper like things that can sort of Gussy them up that’s an instant money saver right there what about stuffing here’s another thing the box I like boxes Stove Top Stuffing they did it did I tell you though the world’s best stuff can I tell you what I don’t like whenever people put their own vegetables in there and the vegetables are undercooked they’re almost undercooked people don’t know oh that’s the worst and then they throw an apple in there and you’re like what the hell is this no Larry you’re talking about my cousin Larry check it out apples undercooked vegetables Nicole and and and raw effing cranberries you ever had a raw cranberry tastes like poison you gotta gosh not dried cream no not dried raw whole no sugar right in the stuffing just a little bite of of just a poison right to your Dome my students hurts stovetop it’s disgusting they did it the industrialization process because it was Larry got some freaking Larry he’s garbage guys uh but yeah yeah dude I think he works in m a um I don’t know what that means positions and a or M A I think it’s like M A do you remember um there was one time where we crashed a party no we didn’t yeah it was at a bar uh No Vacancy in Hollywood it was like a fancy one oh yeah and there was like some Financial firm there oh that somebody said the name of it and I Googled it and I found out what they did and I looked up a couple departments and then people would just be like hey what are you working I’m like oh I’m an m a i work under I work under uh John and they’re like I didn’t think there was a genre like he’s new he came from RNC you know a big firm Ernst you know NASDAQ you know what it is and then I just infiltrated their group um and I had to get free drinks at the bar I remember they had free drinks yeah oh yeah a ton good a ton I think I gave some to you yeah probably you always do that thank you so much for doing that and then somebody uh YouTube oh no and I was just like I do both hello animals I clean your bathroom oh thanks for always doing that for me by the way you’re just so tall and brooding and I’m just like little and I’m like yeah like no one pays attention to me at the front like you can they have a drink and then they just go to the next person very insistent at bars which bars during holiday time really fun really fun break your own alcohol to the bar yeah correct alcohol that’s how I got banned for life from a Korean karaoke I don’t know I was saying bring it definitely bring alcohol to Thanksgiving not even nice alcohol just like a flask bring bring something that’ll you know yeah or just you know bring bring like a six pack or yeah you know just bring that’s a good gift to gift to give that’s the gift that keeps on keep it on Thanksgiving that’s all I’m gonna do my personal record for drinks in a day I’m not gonna say how many because I don’t want to influence anyone okay to beat it can you whisper to me how much is yeah okay this is a standard drink so that means that means cocktails like well like uh 40 at 1.5 well it was beers it was mostly beers yeah no Nicole come back Nicole come back come back I have more details come back one day one day Nicole one day it was with Andrea’s dad uh it’s a big al one you’re drinking with a guy named Big Al starting at 8am on Thanksgiving you can rack those numbers up by the way um how are you alive right now I don’t know we ended up uh seeing Moana too and then I went to the bathroom at the theater went to the bathroom could not find the theater coming back out so I watched like 10 minutes of arrival like 15 minutes of a great uh coming-of-age film starring Woody Harrelson and what’s the the girl that Everyone likes she’s a yeah sure great movie um anyways point is Thanksgiving I love the whole time of year to be thankful I love Thanksgiving but don’t bring a pie from home don’t bring your crappy cranberry sauce don’t make mashed potatoes if you don’t know how and get the stuff in from a box yeah uh don’t cook any fresh vegetables use everything from canned I don’t agree with maybe don’t cook a turkey don’t cook a turkey just buy a rotisserie chicken go to the Costco literally you can spend twenty dollars get four chickens literally um no do whatever the heck you want for Thanksgiving uh we got a fair amount of advice out there on the YouTube let’s go and check out our turkey as much crap as I talk about turkey that was the best turkey that I’ve ever had as much crap as we talk about pie the actual pumpkin pie that we make is good as well so I think the point is if you’re good at cooking stuff cook it cook it if you’re bad at cooking stuff buy from the store and lie to people’s faces yep it’s not what the holidays are all about totally [Music] they say the only constant in life is change that’s true and it’s 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voicemail actually we have like 300 or something thanks for sending us I love your voices they’re beautiful each and every one of them man some of you are pitchy hey guys this is Mark I’m a big fan of the Pod uh my opinion is that the best way to cook a Thanksgiving turkey is to rotisserie it that’s it love you guys thanks bye I love you love you too Mark I’m not afraid to say it um rotisserie turkey I don’t reckon I’ve ever had that I don’t think most ovens are like retrofitted for that no you can Pro I feel like these newfangled crazy Ovens that you’ll see the commercials for like you’ll have Emerald out there who’s just he’s just sold his soul to QVC which may we all be so lucky that’s the goal I feel like you’ll get these new crazy ovens and like they got through a tissue built in you can turn your oven into a freezer it’s like yeah turn on blizzard setting um and all this stuff but most ovens can’t a rotisserie if you do it over like an open fire if you’re one of those like cool paleo grilling people that’s awesome that’s a fun time but I’ve never had a rotisserie turkey I don’t see why it wouldn’t either I’m just I’m just like well we have also taught people how to make a rotisserie do you remember that yeah a week yeah but those were a chicken and we basically crumbled up a bunch of foil to get it so that yeah chickens rest over expensive to do it like that a lot of foil I bet a turkey can I mean they can get up to 20 pounds you would have to like tie it to the stick yeah it’s tough yeah I’m trying to think why okay so rotisserie works right by constantly turning the bird it’s a good idea even slow heat the fat renders out you get even Browning everywhere because it’s constantly turning sounds delicious does turkey have as much intramuscular fat so I’m sure you can also baste it while it’s happening opening the oven or the rotisserie what’s the worst part of every rotisserie chicken though it’s the breast no it’s not what you like rotisserie chicken breast I love rotisserie chicken period I do too but like I feel like the breast is always going to be are you kidding me like crazy so what it’s five dollars eat it so picky this isn’t a five dollar thing you asked me about the chicken you didn’t I asked me about the turkey I eat more rotisserie chicken than anyone yes you do I go to Zankou Chicken Nicole I get three family meals I eat enough for three Armenian Lebanese families yes that’s true thank you you’re welcome the point is uh thank you they’re Lebanese Armenian right I guess uh they make great great rotisseries yeah they make yummy foods you know the the thighs and the legs and the wings they’re a little crispy are so good that it makes me forget about the overcooked breast and then I I dip the breast in the homos and the muta ball put some pickles on it the garlic sauce whatever but turkey is like 80 breast okay I don’t know I’d like to rotisserie turkey I’d like to try it deep frying turkey is a little bit overrated yeah it’s fine I don’t like it very much oh you don’t have to eat it no one’s forcing down here Nicole next if you don’t want to be a part of this family you can get the hell out okay um my mom’s ready to kicked me out of the house if I didn’t take karate well you should have did well karate is good for you man or she’s having a manic episode really into karate for sure if it wasn’t karate with Scientology it was it was a lot at eight oh yeah I’m big into Scientology at 8 yeah yeah yeah next voicemail please Maggie hi my name is Brian and I was hoping you could settle the debate between my wife and I yeah we love lives every Thanksgiving my family makes what she calls an Abomination called heavenly hash I’m gonna love it which is cottage cheese yup whipped cream okay canned pineapple hell yes uh maraschino cherry love it lime Jello and and many marshmallows all mixed together okay my dad’s the family’s had it for sounds good Generations yeah so is it an Abomination or not hell no no if there was history if there was mayonnaise in there yes yeah you know they’re like how like in these like Ambrosia salads like these uh pretzel salads or whatever they put like a quarter cup of mayo for some odd reason I’m glad that your family artery isn’t it because it’s salty and tangy no I’m glad that your family does not do that I think this sounds good and side note did you know that blitzing cottage cheese is really En Vogue right now yeah so um if you wanted to you know adapt this recipe for a more modern mouth feel just blend up the cottage cheese so it’s nice and soft and then that way you don’t have that like chunky weird texture that people might think is disgusting yeah because the cottage cheese is what turns this like lime Jello whipped cream thing into looking like vomit yeah yeah I’m sure that said I love this stuff I would call this whole family of things Ambrosia salads it is it’s an ambrosia salad right which also uh talking to Mindy our associate producer over the mythical kitchen um she grew up thinking that ambrosia salad was a Filipino thing oh really yeah because or maybe many times I don’t know but anyways because it’s really popular in the Philippines because oh cute a lot of post-world War II stuff they had a lot of American pre-packaged food products over there Douglas MacArthur Pacific Theater you know the whole history uh and so there’s a lot of like jello and stuff even if you think about like a hollow hollow right and yeah in layman’s terms there’s a bunch of different jellies different ices yeah yeah yeah this is the sort of very American a little gross or creamier version of just that you know big old mixed textures and flavors and levels of sweetness and I personally love it yeah I mean more ambrosious house but like make make artisanal do a new I want a new generation of Ambrosia salads you know okay do it out with the old end with the new but also still with the old God I should do that do it oh Josh is gonna love this turkey and peanut butter on a tortilla wrap makes the absolute best low carb high protein snack you can do for a pre-jam workout and I stand by that take it away Josh I have nothing I’m so sorry I’m so sorry that I hate this and what you’re doing I’m so sorry I know what it’s like to have expectations to go into something thinking that somebody’s gonna like something it’s like when everyone tells me I’d love the show Archer and I’m like I gave it a chance it’s just not for me and they’re like no you should you really love it because I love it and I know you and I go no it’s just it’s the same joke to me over and over you’re not an Archer guy Joe is Sean Benjamin great voice no they do good work point is one for a pre gym snack aisles opt for high carb I want to get that insulin Spike while I’m working out I think fat inhibits that so I’d never do fat before a workout two if you want fat with your turkey uh mayonnaise man is that a little bit of mayo in there that’s already a great but the peanut butter is like protein powder hardly any peanut butter has hardly any protein he seems like a gym person Mickey did you know that peanut butter has a very very high fat to protein ratio it’s delightful I put peanut butter in my smoothie every morning but that’s a post workout thing that’s me trying to get satiated for the and I I think that peanut butter and turkey we’ve we’ve had meat and peanut butter on the show when meat is hot with peanut butter like a goober Burger I think that’s a good time the peanut butter melts into the meat but there’s other stuff and there’s other stuff yeah just turkey and peanut butter I’d I have you tried jelly yeah instead of turkey man have you tried jelly instead of peanut butter man oh a turkey now a turkey turkey jelly and cream cheese yeah now we’re talking I feel bad was that too harsh no I think you were fine it was a little bit out there it was out there it was a lot out there I was out there um let’s go to some written opinions Josh you want to take away the first one take it away Nicole I would love to First up we got at rosenrot 89 pancakes are better topped with gravy and savory Meats roast chicken turkey or sausage then fruit and syrup Trevor makes uh something called Dirty cakes and this is an example of a dirty cake just a pancake topless everything pancake well he puts it inside of like he takes leftovers and he puts it in the pancake batter hell yeah and then he like puts like sauce on top and it’s a smart way to do it a pat of butter and some like gravy I don’t know if I enjoy Savory pancakes like the if we’re talking American style buttermilk fluffy Flapjacks I think I would rather have either one a crepe I love Savory Crepes to any sort of flatbread that exists or just any sort of bread I don’t think that pancakes are a better substitution for bread whereas you can’t put syrup on bread you certainly can oh Brad there’s something about the fluffy tenderness of a pancake that is nice with syrup and pumpkin’s too sweet for me I just would do this this sounds delicious I think waffles now no no no no no no no no no no no no you never had no Pennsylvania Dutch Chicken and Waffles I don’t need to have a pizza yeah you got that no I gotta have that we’re doing straight man of soda because I can’t do a Pennsylvania dog I don’t know where Pennsylvania is what what I don’t know where it is I couldn’t locate Pennsylvania it’s like huge it’s like a giant rectangle next to New York and New Jersey no see why did you tell me that because Maggie’s gonna pull them up and it was my job to find out where it is oh god oh that’s a pencil that doesn’t look familiar to you I thought this whole time it was like like next to Tennessee or something real well like southern Pennsylvania like you get like the Appalachian inside it’s a big state it’s a big state it kind of looks like a quilt uh yeah it’s a square quilt too many squares uh okay next opinion all right says only oh a cookie part of Twix caramel of like Popeye for the can of spinach spit that bippy out what’s a bippy if you have to ask you can’t afford it enjoy the sweet sweet cookie have you ever seen people eat kitkats in like the the way to eat a KitKat Nah The Chocolate off you like gnaw the chocolate off yeah it’s the Kourtney Kardashian way and I also do it that way but I do that before I knew Courtney did it and um it’s like this all right that’ll spit it out like Popeye I got great news for a sleepy crab here I feel like I feel like they just want to be eating cookies are the cookies though in a Twix a shortbread uh no it’s not quite a strawberry because it’s kind of like a crispy yeah what kind of cookie would you find how would we say that it’s like a crispy sugar cookie if you really broke it down that’s the thing I can’t think of one to it I can’t think of one cookie on the market that is comparable to the middle of a Twix yeah and I also think that they’re not just in it for the cookie Nicole I think they’re in it for the action they like the ritual yeah like the ritual I just wish that like if you could find somebody who just wants caramel and then spit the caramel into their mouth then you’d have like a perfect you know symbiotic relationship yeah yeah there’s that one movie like Rachel Rachel ice like uh never mind what I don’t know all right at Jim Bob the monkey when my mom asked what type of quote salad we went for a holiday dinner she’s specifically referring to jello with something mixed in Fruit shredded carrots sometimes cottage cheese oh another cottage cheese jello salad Ambrosia opinion this you can thank the jello marketing machine post World War II all the housewives baby they’re going out there um yeah I this is a huge holdover from the the Boomers of yesteryear and I hope it doesn’t die out with them you know I don’t I don’t care if it dies Millennials killed everything good we killed uh Red Lobster Nicole we killed we go to Red Lobster chilies are we Millennials were too old to be Millennials we’re really kind of younger mid-millennials there’s like 38 year old Millennials no way yeah I think like 30 37 30 it’s it none of these things actually exist right like none of the generational things there’s no I’m sure one organization has been like this is the official cut off date but it’s whatever we’re Millennials I love gen xers um like uh Winona Ryder’s a gen xer I feel like a gen xer you feel like a gen xer yeah no word Primal dude you grew up on YouTube you grew up going to rotten.com but I have frown lines yeah we’re old like time moves in a linear fashion if you unless you believe in or like the movie arrival would you ever get BOTOX no not at all I want to age terribly I’m never gonna do I’m never gonna take steroids and I’m gonna do Botox never gonna get trt so much I think we’d have so much fun if we went and got Botox together I’m never gonna put lotion on my face that’s not true you have lubricant next to your bed that’s burned by CrossFit hands sure that’s what you tell people hey now all right one more opinion okay convito says every food where I have to remove something inedible like a chef eating around a bone is not worth the hassle the difference in flavor is needed enough to justify the extra effort I’m not employed at this restaurant stop making me do grunt work you privileged aristocratic Marie Antoinette ass let them eat cake not understanding that food is like there are animals that exist yeah there are plants that exist if there is not a shell on your Walnut that is an underpaid person in a factory owned by Veruca Salt’s dad who is paid to Shell that Walnut how much are you willing to pay for convenience and are you willing to learn the uncomfortable truth of the labor that goes into your food you can de-shell the crab that you are already paying for an Alaskan fisherman to risk their life for you’re right I agree with you also there’s nothing like non on a bone oh yeah oh I love eating meat I am a bone sucker 5000 over here are you kidding me yeah bone sucker phone sucker you want to be bone sucker too yeah bones Were Gay they call me Bones Brigade that’s what I was looking for Bones Brigade yeah it was a group of horrible name uh I believe Stacy Powell uh Tony Hawk is part of the Bones Brigade and he was young I don’t like that name at all bone sucker 5000 is much better it sounds like an um an automated uh sucking device that’s me my parents don’t listen to this podcast okay I hope Larry doesn’t listen crap cousin Larry Larry I get kicked out of my family’s Thanksgiving photographer with this raw cranberries and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich every time I see me still goes so he’s still blogging does he have an accent yeah South African uh if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every Wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on Twitter at mythical Chef or and head designer with the 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