two Burger behemoths Battle it out for ground beef Supremacy in one corner we have the Mack Daddy itself The Towering Whopper versus Big Mac what we’re doing Whopper versus Big Mac oh this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host Josh sure and I’m your host Nicole anaiti and for those of you listening on Spotify or apple podcast wherever you get your podcast we are officially on video again the entire thing so if you want to see our faces go over to YouTube and watch us if you are currently watching this on YouTube and you hate the way that our faces look go over to Spotify yeah if we have distractingly beautiful faces which both of us we know we do just just what just listen to it if you would rather either of us just put like brown paper bags over our heads and do the podcast we can do that well I don’t want to do no Nicole I will do that because that’s how much I care about I’m not famous do you remember when Shia LaBeouf used to walk around with that ah Shia LaBeouf did a lot of things you didn’t come on the show I would love for Shia LaBeouf to be on the show speaking of Shia LaBeouf Nicole do you think he would prefer Big Macs or Whoppers um I don’t think he would want either actually but he’s not one of the hosts of this podcast but we are should I tell you what mine is yeah yeah what do you got it’s Big Mac I knew you were gonna say Big Mac I knew you’re gonna say Big Mac because I because I am going to say Whopper and this has actually been a big point of contention between us no I feel like you should explain why you prefer the Big Mac first because I would say the Big Mac is the current Burger du jour and the burger du jour like you could talk about Shake Shack in and out Whataburger Five Guys people love all that but the Big Mac to me is like the most famous burger in world history I think the Big Mac Big Mac is what toppled the USSR it did like like in a very roundabout way I suppose signify capitalism they opened a McDonald’s in Moscow in Pushkin Square is that Moscow or St Peter I don’t know in like 1990 and there was like a line of thousands of uh Soviets just waiting to get their Taste of Americana so I think McDonald’s is more iconic but please tell me about it um I prefer the Big Mac well because it’s delicious I think I think the flavors work together really well the sauce is Iconic the little the little tiny onions are just delicious they’re like kind of they’re kind of perfect everything has been made in a lab and I like that about the Big Mac it’s perfectly engineered for a delicious Burger experience I don’t miss the Tomato at all because I actually don’t get my burgers with tomatoes no way wait hold on hold on any Burger stock you don’t get tomatoes I prefer it without tomato if unless the tomato is like then okay what if I told you that Burger King has scientifically engineered tomatoes to not only be as thin as possible Nicole but to also be completely white and they have no flavor no which is good no I see I like my tomatoes to be red and smooth super thin or else I don’t need it because it’s like a big wet squidgy part of the burger that just ruins the experience for me I love pickles pickles are great I like the sesame seed bun it’s a good bun and I just think it’s I just think it’s perfect but I will say one thing even it’s not without its flaws a lot of the times I remove the middle bun because it takes away wait no no no no no no I’m so sorry Nicole I’m sorry I freaked out now let me finish I know I have I’m bad at this sometimes okay sometimes I have to remove them yes because let me speak it takes away from from the Burgery experience stuff doors it takes away from the burger experience there’s a bun where there could have been another piece of heat or nothing but the fact that that exists Nicole that is endemic to the Big Mac the entire point of the Big Mac is that it has the third button if you say you don’t like one thing that is endemic to the Big Mac you do not like Big Macs Nicole I like the cheese on it is it good is it McDouble with Mac sauce and lettuce that’s what you want no I don’t I want it in the Big Mac Box this is Iconic too look how beautiful the box is the sesame seed bun the width of the lettuce is shredded the sauce the onions everything about a Big Mac is Iconic yeah even though I can’t necessarily enjoy it the way it is doesn’t mean it’s not beautiful and gorgeous and yum smell it it does smell it smells really nice it feels good in the hand good okay okay I’m sorry it’s like smelling a cat what do you mean smelling a Big Mac is like smelling it’s like dude I got back from South Africa which I will not shut up about at all just like full on he’s like in his like era right now like I’m an international travel ask me anything else South Africa I know about it ask me anything about South Africa ask me anything about South Africa I’ll tell you about it I’ll tell you about it so what are the roads like oh my God so the roads in South Africa funny thing is that pedestrians do not have the right of way and so literally cars will just like absolutely mow you down but pedestrians are legally allowed to just stand in the middle of the road and let cars pass you um also there’s zigzag lines that mean that uh pedestrians will be Crossing there and then there’s a street sign that it’s an S with a strikethrough and the joke is growing up that means no sex on the road but actually it means like no pedestrian Crossing what does the S stand for I don’t know do you have any other questions no no not at all but but what were we saying I was saying when I got back I missed the cat so much that I immediately just grabbed him shoved him into my face and breathed in his ass yeah yeah that’s what we’re talking about and it is similar to a Big Mac I’ll give you that they’re both squishy I can’t do that with a Whopper the smell and also the girth of a Whopper it’s so it’s so flat and wide yes wait okay okay it’s all gorgeous she looks like Miss America let me let me let me hold on Teen USA I think the most prescient thing that anyone has ever said in the history of the world is that bigger Burgers should not be taller they should be wider and that is one of the reasons I personally love the Whopper let’s open it right here Nicole have you seen have you seen a wider fast food Burger in your life look at how wide this is It’s a frisbee the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen in my life okay so the Big Mac to all be fatty Special Sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun correct that’s a fantastic makeup of a burger it is where I think it fails is the middle bun an island I agree with you I’m an adult and I can admit whenever things don’t add up and things need to be changed and things need aren’t as perfect as they seem but the third bun one okay so McDonald’s right founded in 1940 um by the McDonald’s Brothers in San Bernardino California and the reason it really blew up was their Speedy service system super speedy and so the entire reason the raison d’etre of McDonald’s was that they had so few menu items they could turn them out as fast as possible with high volume and choreography but their burgers were super super small right dude legit legit legit they would like they were like ballet dancers at the original McDonald’s we’re serving at the OG because their burgers are super super small right and they are to say so the patties inside the Big Mac are less than two ounces I think it’s 1.8 ounces super tiny they’re super tiny and so as say As Americans grew larger um but no people wanted something more substantial so 1940 the OG McDonald’s is created yeah Ray Kroc uh as played by Michael Keaton yes founder never saw it but yes it’s a fine movie he opens the first franchise location in 1955 in Illinois and that’s the thing that really blew him up 1968 is when a franchisee in Pittsburgh adds the Big Mac to the menus to like feed steel workers who are hungry right and so that’s why you get McDonald’s burgers were so small that they couldn’t feed the hungry steel workers but at this point they’re so decentralized due to the franchisee system that they had to start adding new menu items to try and like retrofit the needs of their clientele so to me the McDonald’s Big Mac is ultimately flawed because it goes against the original McDonald’s you know ethos of making simple menu items and small petite Burgers that’s why they didn’t have burger patties big enough to just like fill out a bun so like uh two burgers three buns that’s the only way we can make this bigger whereas the Whopper Nicole look at this big flat frying saucer so ugly of a quarter pound Burger King I love you flame broiled Burger ugly ugly so for me the ratios of the Big Mac are already messed up I think the flavor profile is incredible they’re a little off they’re a little off but there’s but it’s so delicious I agree with that are you eating already I licked an old piece of lettuce off of my finger and that’s it so I think the flavor profile of a Big Mac I I would say with the Special Sauce which is just some combination of mustard relish mayonnaise and spices there’s no ketchup there’s no ketchup a lot of people don’t it’s paprika right yeah paprika extractive yeah yeah um I prefer that flavor profile but to me the middle buns messed up the burger patties are too small there’s only one slice of cheese which is really strange I don’t mind I love cheese like capital L love cheese I actually think the one slice is perfect really I do if you get an extra if you put extra cheese on it it completely throws it off and you can do it but it doesn’t it doesn’t do it for me so you think the Big Mac is perfect because it’s like a little bit flawed in the way that like um humans are flawed yeah yeah with Cindy Crawford at like a mole you didn’t like her more no I don’t know I don’t know what Cindy Crawford looks like but that’s the thing she has a mole and that makes her hotter yeah see that’s the same thing you’re saying about the Big Mac the middle bun bud is the mole the extra bun inside the Big Mac is Cindy Crawford’s mole and I respect that can I tell you something everyone in my family has like a cute mole like over here like around their face but I didn’t get one isn’t that something do you draw it on no I I used to when I was younger with like a eyeliner pencil and I’d go up in the middle of the night and I’m like oh man it’s just a smudge now that was like when I used glossier boy brow to fill out my mustache when it was really right did you not know this no dude glossier paid me you had a sticker of it on yeah yeah I could glossier paid me 200 dollars that is not a humble break that is just a brag right there right um because I used um Andrea my ex’s boy brow to fill out my gross ratty mustache and it worked and then I tagged glossier and they’re like hey can we post this picture it was like give me 200 in a sticker and then they did it and so I’m now a glossier Polish model Shadow glossy I come back for more sponsorships yeah I want some where are you give me some freaking lip gloss a month into the new year and we’re realizing it may have been difficult to stick to any resolutions related to eating healthily so if you found it hard to stick to healthy eating it’s not too late to turn that around Daily Harvest Works directly with Farmers so they can send you harvest bowls smoothies and more made with organic fruits and vegetables and more of the best ingredients around now I just had their tomato and zucchini minestrone and it was so so tasty I’m gonna be ordering that one again for sure and if that’s not up your alley try their artichoke and spinach flatbread or broccoli rice and Dill peel off Harvest bowl and if that’s not up your 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because the Big Mac you get these tiny little beef disc patties that are uh griddle cooked right they’re almost like griddle steamed at McDonald’s I think they’re thrown in a steamer well yeah they’re they’re are they like griddled and then they’re held in a drawer yeah they’re crap they’re flavorless gray beef disc which is which is like perfectly fine for a fast food hamburger right but uh Burger King I was about to say it’s a fresh beef patty no it’s it’s a frozen Puck that’s but it is thrown on live fire can I look at this I want to look at I’m gonna smell it and I’m gonna look for the lines on the burger it doesn’t smell good so Burger King founded 1955. no Josh Josh look at these you call this there’s a girl like smell it smell it you can smell the grill look at this look at this there’s no light oh God it smells so good gosh there’s no lines no I know but there’s lines okay can I tell you why no hold on camera camera zoom in camera operator no zoom in on the camera check this out though okay so there’s lines on one side of the burger right so that’s from the flame the flame broiled nature of it there’s no lines on the other side and I’ll tell you why because so check out this this little nugget of History 1955 Burger King is found in Jacksonville Florida it was originally called insta Burger King I did not know that and they invented something called like the insta Broiler and so what it was is a flame broiler which is to say a grill like live fire grates um and it was supposed to like broil flame broil both sides at the same time so it would get like you know heat on both sides um and they would also toast the Buns on that and it was a whole thing that’s what they like you know hooked their wagon to sounds good good turns out just like didn’t work at all and literally like after like two years the franchisees who started expanding it just literally took a hatchet to the machine to kill it and then they started uh flame broiling it instead which is to say they like Grill it on one side and then I don’t know if the other side is just cooked with ambient heat but there’s not a single Grill mark on there not a single but that’s what I love about the Whopper you do get that little element of flame grilled taste the beef tastes like something and then it may not have the special sauce and I think cheese or cheese oh cheese you can add cheese for like 49 cents I don’t know I don’t I don’t and I’m not saying that I should I don’t I don’t need cheese on my burger and that is a controversial statement and of itself but Nicole I am incredibly Brave for saying this you mean to tell me you’d rather eat a burger than a cheeseburger if both of them were in front of you uh if one is a Whopper and one’s a Big Mac yeah look at the cross section of this Whopper look at the mouth no it’s beautiful it’s flat it should be flat are you eating it I don’t know what we were allowed to eat yeah okay like we have two Nicole take a bite of the Whopper tell me you don’t taste the flame broiled nature of that beef I do I mean it’s good tell me the flame broil nature of that beef does not make you feel something inside and does that make you feel something deeply American hey eat this to be clear I am just hungry I have not eaten lunch I ate some scraps in a pistachio okay which one tastes better honestly I’m gonna grab a napkin but no welcome to the Good Mythical mukbang oh my god oh man are Big Mac’s better oh my God okay very clearly okay let me take another bite of the Whopper because now I’m starting to realize I’m just a hypocrite which McDonald’s did we go to the closest I can’t give you an exact location people are gonna no no just say closest and second closest because there’s two minutes then there’s third closest that’s why the Supercuts that I go to closest you know to the closest one the closest one did do they have new management highly possible I don’t work because this is a well-constructed because the second closest one normally does much better work and the third closest one is just convenient if you’re already getting a haircut at Supercuts okay I’m just shocked that they were able to do that because that is probably one of the best big messes the one where the guy got stuck this Burger King’s the one where the guy got stabbed for some reason I have a great idea gosh well you’re well you’re munching away over there I will say the meat tastes better on the Whopper but as a cohesive Burger it’s Big Mac all the way now listen Josh how about this whatever Nicole’s Not My Name I’ve smelled it I’d like you to smell the meat you don’t have to I’m holding me okay go ahead what if we let’s just say one day you’re like I want to go to Burger King like I want to go to McDonald’s we get both we go to the kitchen we get rid of the patties from the McDonald’s one and then we cut the flame the I’m sorry chai wild Whopper ones and then we put them on this because I think that would taste really good I agree with you what I think we should do right now is break down layer for layer which one wins and keep score let’s do it I do agree with you though that I the sauce McDonald’s is definitely best but no no let’s go layer by layer okay let’s go bun which one wins but three you admitted that the middle bun shouldn’t be there I’ll have to eat you’re just tearing these apart which one tastes better Whopper bun Whopper buns better right yeah softer plusher it’s also wider I like that it’s a bigger hamburger it doesn’t build I love wide Burgers I don’t love thick Capital C Burgers I like them flat and wide pancake I like my Burgers I gonna like mine never mind okay so bun goes to the Whopper yeah condiment we have a hot mayonnaise and ketchup Nicole they preheat the mayonnaise to exactly 140 degrees in the Whopper okay McDonald’s for condiments easily McDonald’s yeah cheese no cheese is part of condiment McDonald’s already no cheese is not a condiment it’s a part of the burger but it’s not part of the you used in with condiment okay I’ll give you that one thank you okay so McDonald’s is better McDonald’s yes produce products produce you got the thick white onion horrible you have the I mentioned the white tomatoes look this is 80 light well the outside’s red but look at the inside wow right gorgeous the whitest tomato possible they got thick chunky iceberg lettuce they got the white tomato and they have uh crinkle cut pickles very wide wow I can’t believe the Whopper has all of those things like white onions I don’t like that versus McDonald’s does have the best pickles in the game gray pickles love the shreddis love the shreds I know that the onions are rehydrated correct so they are minced they are dehydrated then rehydrated and they are good they are kind of awesome what else is on here that’s it uh yeah I think I I would go Big Mac I would Edge Big Mac I too would go with Big Mac I prefer shredders on a burger I do as well I the minced onions I think are better the raw onion and the flame broilness kind of goes well it goes well but what’s the first thing I tasted the onion the onion was the first thing I tasted and you loved it no yeah they’re pretty stink smelly onions yeah Burger King here’s a fun fact about Burger King they actually genetically modified stank onions they just have to go this is true no I’m kidding but the onions in a Whopper are so stank though that I told you this a while ago when I was a kid I used to take the onions out of my Whopper because they had a 99 Whopper deal and I would stuff them into like the center console of the back seat and I hid them there because I was so afraid of my mom for the normal reasons uh that I didn’t want to be difficult and Order no onions and so I thought my way of getting away with it the center console and then they rotted and they brought rats and then they’re all rats in your car yeah and then it like unique and then it like finally came out that oh I’d been stashing months worth of 99 Whopper onions in the car and then I got in trouble have you ever thought okay the thing about this you know the the wrapper why did you just put the onions in the wrapper because I didn’t want to admit that I was too afraid of my mom to order no onions to my mom because like if she saw the record you go I don’t know why kids do the things I was a child I was like five years old and I was stupid and also I was five years old eating whole Whoppers for a meal which makes sense that’s a large hamburger for a child where were we we okay bun McDonald’s bun Whopper condiment McDonald’s Pro produce McDonald’s you got mayonnaise on you and now we I’ve I’m covered in in mayonnaise and and then now we’re just on meat I did like the Whopper meat the Whopper meat works so this is now two for two yes so they’re tied as far as structural things go if you are to order hmm I’m trying to think if I were having a craving for a burger burger yeah we gotta eat some breakfast mull this over pile cleanser do you think that the flaws of a Big Mac because I think a Big Mac to me has a higher a higher ceiling but also a lower floor I have no idea what that means what I’m saying is if a Big Mac is constructed properly with the right amount of sauce the beef is at the right temperature and stuff like that and it’s not all shaking around the box I think it is a better burger and a better eating experience than the Whopper however I’ve had a lot of messed up Big Macs Nicole that are sliding around all willy-nilly out there and I think this is you care too much this is too complicated you care too much you’re too invested this is your problem you care too much about you’re getting a fast food Burger Josh eating at 11 Madison Park no but I’m saying I care deeply about fast food burgers and I think people really underestimate how much care and time and research and science goes into fast food Burgers right this stuff doesn’t spring up from a vacuum you know Big Macs by the way totally plagiarized it was plagiarized from uh from big boy because they have their boys Bob’s Big Boy yeah they were a hard charging chain and the franchisee for McDonald’s even admitted that so like one this is an act of intellectual property theft and I don’t support steal all the time from other creators no we’re we are the only original cooking show and the fact that they’re no less than five high-profile YouTube cooking shows that have a concept called could I make this faster than delivery proves that everyone else is also very original and none of us ever copy each other never never I’m sorry what were you getting I’m starting to think that the Big Mac’s just better here can I tell you why it’s just it’s it’s in a better easier enjoyable package it just works better Josh this I know I’m gonna eat my Whopper no I know the whopper’s falling apart and that’s also like your theory about it being better this is too wide of a hamburger yeah now that I’m looking at it it’s because here’s the thing you can’t like hold it without it drooping and see like it’s it the way that it’s can like see like the Big Mac is it’s perfect because one of the one of my arguments was gonna be that the third bun makes it sort of like Too Tall but it’s not it’s a very ergonomic Burger it is not too tall it is I’m so sorry we promised we would be like 30 less gross in 2023 and I feel like I’m breaking that I didn’t make any promises and I’m not gross I think that the Big Mac is deceptively ergonomic I think some of the ratios don’t make sense but I think if there’s enough of that sauce I think you’re really getting a fantastic flavor profile right really yeah and I think even though the beef on the Whopper is a lot better if you are in if you weren’t if you are like worried about the quality of your beef you have you simply have to pay more than four dollars for it right how much is a Big Mac what’s a Big Mac now like 429 oh also do you know about the Big Mac index 29 just for the sandwich just for the sandwich I think it’s adjusted for um well it’s like Regional like it’ll be more expensive in high cost of living areas it’s not standardized across the US what the heck I believe that to be true but also yeah California in America Dude Where’s the three dollars we’ve heard about the Big Mac uh Index right I’m sorry how Okay so the Big Mac index it is not actually scientific it’s similar to The Waffle House Index for how strong a hurricane is oh interesting okay starting a hurricane is by what percentage of waffle houses have closed their doors because they’re like the only thing that doesn’t close ever interesting uh so the Big Mac index is an international economic index signifying the strength of that currency against the US dollar so it’s basically like how normal how normally is our currency currently acting into like Iceland for instance when they went through their financial crash um they’re only like two mcdonald’s’s and a Big Mac was like 40 or something and people like well Iceland’s in for a crash I’m not an economist so like I’m not explaining this properly but that’s the general just do with which Burger’s better what that has to do with it is that there’s no Whopper index Nicole the Big Mac to me I think there is wisdom in crowds and the Big Mac is Iconic for a reason the funny thing is right they both like Whopper big Big Mac big even though I think the Big Mac does not atone for the original sin and McDonald’s burgers being too small I think that there’s sort of a beautiful um what’s that what’s that word what’s the body roll I don’t know Redemption there’s a Beautiful Redemption Arc for like the franchisee in 1968 in Pittsburgh trying to feed people a bigger Burger trying to compete with the Whoppers of the world that were threatening to pass them by and just shuffling it like a deck of cards and slapping on a special sauce on there you know creating the myth around it I think it’s a really beautiful well-constructed food I do I agree the Whopper doesn’t hold a candle to it do I wish that the beef had more flavor that maybe it was a little bigger that you could get some of that charcoal on it sure but I I the person who loves Big Max who was who was vying for Big Macs doesn’t like the middle but the middle red bun in there I can admit that the Big Mac is flawed but there’s Beauty in flaws especially in Burgers man you should draw a little mole on your face can you draw them all on my face yeah but I’m gonna do it with special sauce no no oh you’re gonna break out you’re gonna have such a bad rash foreign this show is sponsored by betterhelp let’s talk about when you’re at your best maybe it’s when you’re hanging out with friends and family crushing that video game’s final boss or maybe just walking your cats around the neighborhood in a stroller we’ve all been there but sometimes life gets you bogged down and you may feel overwhelmed or like you’re not showing up in the way that you want to working with a therapist can help you 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dog today to get 10 off your first month that’s betterhelp hclp.com hot dog all right Nicole you’ve heard what you and I have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the Internet it’s time for a second we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] Nicole you are a natural soloist it’s so but hey before we get into opinions like casseroles go check out sports.com for all of your grocery haul needs they’re out there ranking The Best of the Best Foods they got a best burger ranking complete with best buns best condiments I weighed in on the best ketchup out there you did well what was it and my opinion might shock you go to sport.com Okay let’s listen to our first voicemail let’s do it I have a bit of the bubble guts from that Whopper that we ate I know you how old was it I got it uh I got it 15 minutes before no that’s not bad not bad not bad it tasted wet aged oh it’s raining out a little bit of moisture gets in the bag and kind of like hydrates it from the outside that’s good I’m thirsty yeah hey Nicole cheers back to YouTube hey guys uh this is Michael I live in New York City uh Harlem specifically and y’all talked about a lot of burger opinions talk about either Smash Burgers or those big fat like inch and a half Gordon Ramsay style Burgers uh like which one’s the best but the best burger is a burger it’s a chopped cheese I knew he was gonna say chopped cheese five blocks from the home the OG chopped cheese house here in harlemen it’s like Splat on a hero you have the cheese it’s all kind of gooey and melted inside it’s the best burger experience you gotta wrap it in the foil let it sit there for like a minute because the all the like these crumbles and American cheese steaming in the in the bread and then you wrap it up and it’s just all kind of like a little wet and uh steamed and hot inside yeah go to Hodges when you come to New York do you know what a is uh I believe I do know is one who has made the pilgrimage to Mecca yeah Scrabble word baby yeah yeah um sorry that’s okay no no you didn’t uh the Chopped season is an American institution and I heard it I’m ashamed to say that I’ve never had a bad ones from the chopped Cheese Truck in Los Angeles and the dude is from Brooklyn um so I believe that he makes a proper version but there’s nothing like going to haji’s which a lot of people claim is the original um in New York so a chopped cheese for people who don’t know um it’s offensive to say it’s like a Philly cheesesteak but but I’ma say that it’s like a cheese steak but it’s made with ground beef you chop up the ground beef you add the cheese on top of that and kind of mix it in a little bit so it melts you put that in a a hero roll a hoagie roll whatever you want to call it and then lettuce tomato whatever sauces condiments you want wrap it up let it steam it is a bodega staple and we ain’t got bodegas in California we have what we call liquor stores and sometimes they get a little hot dog roller and sometimes there’s Deli in them but mostly not sometimes they’re delis I like going to delis there’s a liquor store in Burbank that has just like a fish and chip shop in it it’s called like Willy’s fish and chips really good um vendums vendums has a real good Deli oh yeah this is my favorite do you think the chopped cheese could qualify as the best burger well I’ve never had one but from from the the explanation it sounds perfect does it though okay no no chopped cheese chopped cheese is absolutely great that sounds great but again since I’ve never tasted it I can’t really be a good judge of it so the idea sounds great but I can’t give an answer I can lie say yeah or I can lie and say no but I don’t have a name even conceptually like a chopped cheese is a different eating experience than a burger I wouldn’t call a chopped cheese or Burger a chopped cheese to me it’s a sandwich it’s a hoagie right um in the same way that a Philly cheesesteak is to me they’re they’re similar I know they’re their own beasts I am personally a massive Philly cheesesteak fan also if you want the lettuce tomato you can get a Philly cheesesteak Hoagie is what they call it which I find it delightful I probably wouldn’t order it in Philly because I don’t know the politics of all that you know what I mean you go to places up yeah I think so you know but if I go go Birds then they have to respond to go Birds um but the chopped cheese I don’t think it qualifies as a burger because it’s it’s chopped up it’s not ground bun Etc and Nicole do you know in South Africa um I recently went to South Africa Maggie look at me anything on a round bun is called a burger like chicken burger yeah they call it chicken burgers they were never part of the Commonwealth right um no no they are they are currently part of the Commonwealth I didn’t know that yeah yeah so after the the boar the anglo-bore war there was in 1910 it’s called reconciliation and they kind of British stepped out but it was agreed upon did you know that I went to South Africa recently Josh of course everybody all right next opinions oh my gosh I was not expecting that uh voice mail right now the unexpected my hot food cake is definitely going to be that I love carrots in ketchup and don’t you dare let’s go yeah my decision right there let me tell you why I’ll tell you why because as a kid uh my parents were we’re always like you need to eat your vegetables I’m like you know what I don’t like vegetables I’m a kid I hate vegetables and they’re like you know what you need to eat these carrots they’re good for your eyes so I’m like all right I’ll eat these carrots but I need ketchup because I love ketchup at the time I put ketchup on everything you know I was one of those kids that you’re one of those kids on everything and so I did and uh when I tried ketchup on carrots I found out it was a very delicious thing and I think you would too if you tried it so go ahead and give it a try and you’re welcome to catch up with carrots that could have been a three second opinion but it was more like a 45 second but I loved it he had such a beautiful sing-song there’s a little bit of Mitch Hedberg in there when he was on uppers yeah oh well you can tell what Mitch hadberg was on based on his collection I could never tell yeah yeah I mean you could tell the family of not the specific substance that’s that’s good uh ketchup and carrots uh well let me tell you my favorite way to eat carrots is with lime juice and salt oh you’re talking raw carrots lime juice and salt are they talking about cooked I well no I’m just I was asking you about your own opinion yeah weird lime juice salt why this seems very plain I don’t know you don’t do peanut butter plain delicious ranch dressing yeah of course I might do Ranch but lime so you totally coat it in like heavy lime juice and then just like handfuls of salt I love that I don’t eat a lot of raw carrots if I do I will do a you don’t eat baby carrot no I like like a nice herbaceous creamy dip a Rancho Rancho Jason like a green goddess dressing baby maybe a pea stew or something oh my God Nicole I had this great crew today a piece I like had a big lovely baby carrot Critters I had a fancy French restaurant and they had a fromage Blanc dipping sauce yum I put ketchup on all my vegetables at home because I’m a child because if I don’t have time to like make a sauce or a devoted like vegetable dish and it’s just like a weeknight you gotta steam some vegetables roast some vegetables I still want to eat it with some sort of sauce and ketchup just gets you there that’s fine that makes sense to me but like baby yeah buddy why are you saying baby carrots because they’re fine this is one of the vines that only you know about and that I don’t know about because I didn’t have Vines love it they’re fun they’re regular care it’s just Whittle down I dip everything ketchup ketchup is a very fancy sauce right it’s got Umami salt acid sweet ketchup’s the perfect sauce dip anything and everything and ketchup it’s beautiful I like ketchup I don’t like carrots in South Africa they call it tomato sauce I don’t care at all next opinion please is everything going to be related to South Africa and South Africa they call these they call these chips really but then some people call them fries and I couldn’t get an answer as to why Josh and Nicole um so I’ve been in recovery from an eating disorder for like seven years now Mazel Tov um but I wish I had started listening to your podcast sooner because within the past few months I’ve made so much like progress just mentally with my relationship with food like hearing you guys talk about food in such a an open and humorous and like I don’t even know how to describe it but like just the other day I ordered french fries from Wendy’s for the first time ever I’ve never ordered food from like a fast food restaurant and I was so proud of myself and I don’t think I would have been able to done to do it without you so um yeah thank you so much for just sharing your your silly food opinions I’m gonna cry talking about food in such a a nice way um um no I mean one I’m not a licensed medical health professional yet I could be we don’t know what I’m capable of um but dude like that is it’s not an unconscious thing that we talk about food the way that we do right you’re right it’s not like deliberate and calculated but it is like our shared values that we believe in right um one everyone’s real messed up in the head right and and everybody has their cultural differences their reasons for doing things that they do which is why we try not to speak about food in the language of Shame sometimes we do it very jokingly like yelling at somebody for dipping carrots and ketchup yeah but I don’t believe in using the terms shame around food I don’t believe in calling Foods weird in that way because everybody has such a deeply personal relationship with it and it’s something that there’s all these like food is just fuel for your body people and it’s like no no it’s not food is something it’s about shared connection it’s about Joy it’s about love it’s about passing on cultural traditions for thousands upon thousands of years it’s awesome it should be celebrated and I understand a lot of people have messed up relationships with food us included we’ve talked about this of course of course um but hopefully yeah or the way that we speak about it and trying to sort of take that power that negative power that has a way yeah hopefully it helps some people and that’s rad thank you so much for telling us that yeah congratulations and keep up the good work we’re very proud of you and call us again we love to hear your voice you went Wendy’s fries though for the first time hold on no I’m just saying like me hey they’ve gotten better they’re pretty good dipping a peanut butter sandwich and milk is the only way to eat peanut butter sandwiches short and sweet and I love store-bought commodity bread soaked in milk you know what I like to do so when there’s just a little bit of milk in the carton left I just pull out the damn carton that had drink from the spout oh yeah because it’s just my milk but you don’t do that like with your because you just live with your husband I do you wouldn’t drink the carton if he’s so the way that my milk is set up is David drinks whole milk okay and I am lactose intolerant lady so I have either oat or almond or hemp he hates lactose-free milk doesn’t understand the concept of lactuster even though I love lactose rebook he’s like no so I kind of just you know pop up in the top of my oat milk and I just you know go to town I like Lactaid it’s sweeter I love lactating sweeter um dipping the sandwich in there is a a child’s book series called not the yeah it was the Box card If You Give a Mouse a Cookie no the but you know The Boxcar Children no what’s that okay so you’re like The Hardy Boys right they like solve Mysteries um uh The Boxcar Children was that except they were homeless and they lived in a an empty train car and so I really connected with them you know rough up bringing like that and they would solve Mysteries but their treat was they would like steal they were like steal stale bread french fries I’m so sorry but like as a treat they would like steal stale bread and they would soak it in milk and it would eat it and so I started doing that when I was a little poor kid um eating soaked bread milk and so one of my comfort Foods is um I kind of prefer almond milk now because I’m a coastal Elite but I will make like a nut butter sandwich on like one of like the honey wheat bread from our wheat and I’ll dip that in milk and it’ll remind me The Boxcar Children that’s so sad that book was for kids oh there was like hundreds of Boxcar Children books yeah they would like solve Mysteries they’d like take down and Drug kingpins but they were definitely homeless what age yeah like young young but I think they were like led by like young teenagers um but then the youngest I mean must have been seven eight years old what age did you read it the state didn’t step in and say where was the adoption agency where were social services you know but at the same time it’s like with how messed up what are the social services are it’s like were they not better off Nicole just like by themselves taking care of each other you know oh okay Henry is 14 and then the youngest Benny is six yeah they’re all siblings they’re orphans and they live in a box were there were their parents killed orphans they said they’re orphans also how old are they today Maggie are they are they real search Boxcar Children real question mark um hearty boys were Posh anybody could solve a mystery if their parents are alive wait were there parents murdered in The Boxcar Children the mother’s dead their father was very drunk he could hardly walk up oh my God this is the worst book for kids it taught me self-esteem The Boxcar Children Are the reason that I am the way I am 100 every kid should read the book 100 100 you know what I read a lot as a kid Amelia Bedelia books ah see soft Amelia Bedelia never could have handled the crushing emptiness of uh homelessness and also solving murders oh yeah it was like The Boxcar Children I was reading like a Michael Crichton books pretending like I understood quantum theory not crying I’m like laughing crying yeah sorry this is on video now I know isn’t that the beauty of it if we could zoom in on Nicole’s crying face right now because that to me is a testimonial of how delightful we are you know please don’t zoom in I didn’t do my eyebrows all right on that note thank you all for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us in the mythical kitchen we got new videos out every Wednesday videos I know the videos are out on like a Friday and then the audio podcast is out on a Wednesday and then I take and then I do my semi-weekly chiropractor appointments on Mondays just in case 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