AHDIAS 150: What’s the Best Type of French Fry?

Nicole curly fries or waffle fries curly crinkle cutter wedge cut lead potato Smiles or Sidewinders are you talking about French swack jackers or dumb flumpers hell is going yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich I’m your host Josh air and I’m your host Nicole anayadi and we’re internet chefs over good mythical morning and mythical kitchen when we’re not making what have we done crazy with french fries um Wendy’s french fry Wendy’s french fry Frosty cheesecakes we’re over here taking on the world’s biggest food debates Nicole and today we got a heck of a debate going on we are diving into the wonderful and diverse world of french fries there you dive do you know how to dive um I feel like I learned when I was a child and I haven’t been able to put that into practice in a while I’ve never been able to dive I’m not a Dover when’s the last time you were in a pool where diving was appropriate though um I like go to people’s houses but how deep are their pools how deep is your full house like 10 feet can you dive in 10 feet water yeah definitely oh yeah I feel like I haven’t been in a pool deeper than five feet in years I’m sorry about that and I kind of try and half dive but I’m very safe do you want to come to a pool yeah I want to come to one of your 10 foot deep pools that’s not what we’re debating right now you’re mine it’s my friends debating what the best cut of french fries out there and there’s a lot more than people realize this is a very silly podcast let me just say that I think it’s super silly why why do you think it’s I think it’s very serious oh you do yes Nicole I don’t know I think it’s kind of like like uh what’s the word like arbitrary is that what it is yeah but I mean everything is arbitrary right taste there’s no accounting for Taste but that said I think there is a scientific way to figure out what the best french fries I see I see you know what I mean I see but first you have to figure out your French fry values you have to decide what a french fry means to you because franchise has been relegated to being a side dish for so long when you say value does that mean math has to be included in this conversation I’m not good at math and if I have to have potatoes deep fried and fat and I’d have to incorporate math into that I can’t really like there’s already too much science involved in French fry cookery a good french fry oh my gosh I’m at values as in like morals and ethics oh so you’re putting you’re putting the guise of morals and ethics into French fries yeah but more so just like figuring out what a french fry means to you right and what makes a french fry good or bad because like the Nicole the ancient Greeks right we love the Greeks we love the Greeks I had Greek food yes who’s your favorite ancient Greek uh Papa Cristo if you know you know uh Papa grease is a lovely Greek restaurant in Los Angeles and I don’t think Papa Cristo was in ancient Greek but boy do I love their Souvlaki this is so sweet so small what’s the song lukanico lucaniko is the best oh my God best sausage you were saying about Greek I’m saying they studied they studied Aesthetics in Beauty and like what actually makes people beautiful what makes things beautiful and I think we need to figure out what makes a french fry beautiful may I ask one question okay oh it was the Fibonacci sequence one of those things I was gonna make a Fibonacci Sequence reference earlier and then I was like um I have no idea what it actually is so I’m just gonna kill them definitely not Fibonacci definitely like an Italian modern Italian name okay okay oops and I only know it from uh Angels and Demons the Dan Brown book The precursor to The Da Vinci Code never read it never seen it never spark noticed it never done a thing about it bro Tom Hanks is Robert Langdon come on shadow um no I have no idea what a Fibonacci sequence is but I know people draw the stupid little spirals with beauty and like and like equality and like and like visual appearance and joy maybe if we’re going by that metric that’s french fry Carly curly fries which hold on because that is my initial answer yeah I love curly fries there’s no but is it actually the curliness that I like or is it the fact that most curly fries have a seasoned batter dredge I think that’s it right same yeah same same same it’s beautiful have you ever bought a spiralizer before and spiralized your own curly fries yeah they never turn out as good as the stuff from a factory you don’t batter them I do batter them you batter yours at home I do Adam but the spiralizer does not get my curly fries thick enough and I don’t know what the deal is interesting okay they’re like thin and then you lose the potatoiness because they don’t expect you to batter it at home potentially I don’t know I don’t know what the spiralizer people expect me to do with it and I feel like spiralizers were created for one thing and one thing only noodles freaking zoodles man I hate zoodles are bad for people who don’t know a zoodle is a portmanteau of zucchini and noodle and it is no you know what I’m down with though lasagna zucchini lasagna it’s too wet no I would do that instead of zoodles zoodles are a lie zucchini lasagna valid zucchini you’ve made a zucchini lasagna that isn’t just grotesquely wet just filled with water what do you do do you you know what I do I make sea salt cure them I’ve tried that I’ve made it the day before and then I drain it and then I cut a piece out of it what do you mean it works it works totally fine just like just do it with like the eggplant and make musaka you can also do that what do you value in a french fry Nicole I want to like dig down into your morals right now what do I value in a french fry huh well with a french fry eating experience I think it’s really important that you get a nice softness to CR not crunchiness but a soft to crisp ratio I think is really important I think a properly salted fry is very important how much salt and how much flavor that it can get out of a french fries now we’re talking salt or seasoning either or okay I think I think assaulted a well-salted french fry is equal to a batter a well seasoned battered curly waffle fry and I would agree with that I agree with that cool yeah yeah um that’s that’s the most important thing I think softness to crispness then and then proper seasoning or salt is like the most important thing I would agree with the softness to Christmas because to me that’s like what makes a french fry unique as a method of potato cooker totally yeah it’s the fact that you can get that crispy exterior and the soft fluffy potato pie interior yeah that’s right so I think that takes off a couple fries okay right from our list right like shoestrings but I love eating this is the problems are like popcorn you can grab a whole fistful and shove them in your mouth it’s so fun to share with friends but an eating french is the best part I don’t know I love eating french fries alone I love being confronted with a mountain of french fries that you couldn’t possibly eat yourself and then you see it as a challenge and you’re like I will eat this mountain of french fries myself and so you do it’s gonna be so hard everybody like choosing between the best french fries like choosing my favorite children that don’t exist yet uh it’s really Ezra oh really Ezra is my favorite child that doesn’t exist yet oh yeah we’re gonna call him ezzy but also he really loves musical theater I’m not going to say the name of my future first word on this why I don’t think it’s public knowledge and I don’t think it should be shared with everything do you know what it is Maggie no but I don’t think she should yeah what what do you mean it’s a secret because people steal because people steal people they’re gonna steal his name don’t you name your kid Ezra it’s going to be a girl as I don’t know yet I don’t know esri Ezra if it’s a girl if it’s a boy don’t even ask me I associate esma with the movie role models oh s mate goddess goddess of natalworth and this podcast is like almost over bro we’ve only adjusted I’m trying to stay on track Maggie can we get a list going we’re gonna name as many I feel like we can’t there’s no one single use for french fry right is it aside to a burger is it a shareable thing that you want to enjoy socially with friends like popcorn is a single use the only use of popcorn popcorn and I’m saying that’s the use the use of popcorn is something to be shared by people watching a movie or a baseball game or a baselogram right baseball and movies are what popcorn is made for I’m saying french fries people might think of it as a single-use food I don’t think it’s a single use I I agree I agree I agree I agree because like and that’s a very American thing burger and franchise you go to France you go to France right they’re serving french fries estate tartar they’re serving french fries with mussels those are different things and you want a different experience to go with that right sure because I’m eating a steak tartare which I almost exclusively did when I was in Paris yeah but like I want a different type of fry for steak tartar I want shoe strings what oh yeah okay waffle with steak tartar would be yeah Move Free what do you want um almost almost a steak fry almost interesting you wanna know why stops it all up yeah you need a softer you need a stopper and you need you need a certain amount of surface area for for shopping mistake if I will do that and stick fire we’ll do that I think I’d love to take fries too I agree with that because what are we doing here I’m about to have an identity crisis I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know what I want in life I like all french fries but what about burger burger best best side of fry for Burger regular like fast food style you’re talking like a McDonald’s cut whenever I close my eyes Josh close your eyes for a second keep them close if you open them I’ll know I’m dizzy okay um when you look in your mind what french fries what french fries do you see I see McDonald’s okay your eyes are closed the whole time seriously I get the spins When I close my eyes it’s not that bad I went to like a metal show last night my ears are ringing a bit shout out to bloody wood invented uh they absolutely crushed it I wasn’t there but I’m sure yeah do you want me to invite you next time you already did and I declined I invited you and I declined and nobody wants to go now that I don’t want to go to a metal show with you it’s just it wasn’t the right time or place yeah it’s a Sunday it’s it’s yeah we’re recording this on a Monday um do you think that there can be a universal best type of french fry or it has to be dependent with I don’t know I don’t know let’s find out let’s find out try and think why because we we went through a couple use cases right of mule free steak tartar what you want with it yeah Burgers why do you think you want a fast food style cut french fry with a burger because to me what do you mean speed you’re just worried about the rate at which you can get the fries yeah yeah the the the the way that you can eat the french fries you like can get like six at a time you can’t do that with a wedge you can’t do that with a steak you can do with a shoestring but it’ll cut up the roof of your mouth because they’re so crispy and crunchy how soft is a roof of your mouth it has texture on it I did recently go to a gastropub which is now such a funny term and like to the point where I see the word in a long time I see the word Gastropub that used to be the most exciting word in food 2011. yeah right so this is like we’re taking bar food but we’re making everything 17 and there’s gonna be an egg on the burger and there’s probably gonna be an arugula salad and everything’s gonna be not quite as good a flatbread a flat bread on it oh my God figs and blue cheese on a flatbread who would have thought um but anyways I went to one recently and normally I try and avoid them because the food generally is just bad there I do love some craft beers it’s walking distance from my house sure and they had an option with their burger that was a Smash Burger perfectly mediocre perfectly fine for their like normal fries or special house cut thick fries oh okay and I got their special house cut thick fries Nicole these are like I mean they’re like a Lincoln Log of a fry and they’re done really well they’re super crispy you can tell they’re fried at least twice might even be a triple fry very nice right I feel like a triple fry just means that someone forgot about the fries and they’re refiring the fries which is fine like honestly but it makes it better and I do agree with that they call sandbagging in restaurants right where you’re like I’m a pre-cook all my food and then when people order it just drop it again that’s a good way to do it right it’s it’s efficient but point is the fries are done really well but they were so thick and so potatoey and pulpy that I did not like them with my burger because it’s its own meal almost right it’s its own meal yeah I get that it’s his own sandal and thing if you want a side I need something that’s thin that’s salty that has texture fast food fry fast food fry fast food right yeah so we’ve established that you need different fries for different things that’s true that’s true but what is the best we still need to go through like 40 million other ones okay let’s go through other prize let’s start uh just naming all the fries again okay uh uh tornado fries you ever had the tornado fry I do not recognize that as a fry what I do not recognize that in Santee Alley that’s like my thing so the tornado you’re talking about you take a potato and it’s like you put it on a stick and then you spiralize it with the stick and then you deep fry the whole thing on the stick so it’s a crispy potato and it’s like kind of battered right there’s like a loose powder on it it’s it’s a dealer’s choice why why you gotta go over the other monster I know we have a lot to get through I’m trying to call French does not refer to the country right so in France refused to back George Bush’s war on terror we’ve refused to call them french fries you call them Freedom fries well they actually don’t realize yo I went to a place in El Reno Oklahoma that still called them Freedom fries which is wild um but this is like two years ago shut up yeah it was bizarre that’s incredible um but anyways so it the French doesn’t refer to the country it does in a way but it refers to the knife cut yeah it’s like French cut green beans right sure that’s the same thing these are yes these are French cut potatoes yes that are fried in the style of fritzkot in Belgium is it like bat on it a better net yeah yeah exactly what that means baton what’s a baton I think it’s a baton’s oh okay I don’t think it means bayonet I thinking of Mitra yet which means submachine gun which is a great sandwich in Belgium um but point is they’re like a Belgian thing yeah yeah totally I get that why are you excluding tornado fries because it’s Shady because if French refers to the cut I think a french fry has to be somewhat log shaped okay false what about potato smile potato Smiles are not a french fry potato potato Smiles are indeed what about home surprise you know what potato Smiles are they’re like this it’s it you can find it in the freezer section at some grocery stores it’s mashed potatoes that they carve a smiley face into when you deep fried and you to the little kitties or the young adults that do not have a proper palette and then it’s cute it’s fun to eat that’s another fantastic central European dish called a croquette so okay well whatever well a croquet in a fried potato croquette and a fryer are not the same no I don’t want to live in a world where potato croquette and french fry the same that’s like saying a hash browns oh my gosh have you ever had one of those have you ever had a french fry that was like piped out and it was like long like have you ever the Korean style french fries that are like piped out it’s a long special dispensation for that that’s not a long croquette that’s a mashed up fry but the shape is important the shape is important and Nicole before you get to like well curly fries aren’t but they are curly fries are a thin rectangle they are they pull it out rectangular prism correct but yeah but you don’t eat it I might I might pull out no you don’t sometimes no you don’t waffle fries they are batons that are cross-hatched okay you are you no no they are the shape of the fry you are lying to yourself I’m not what about cottage fries you know the big ones where they just cut out like they look like thick ass uh chips oh they’re like crinkle cut they’re like the crinkle Cottage brows I’ll show you I’ll show you these guys these guys look they’re not crinkle okay but have you had the ones that I I think only if they’re crinkled then they can be a french fry because the crinkles create the illusion of like corrugated steel which looks rectangular s I’m making Josh your rules are fake well I don’t think tater tots are french fries I think tater tots of course it’s a hash brown yeah it’s a croquette yeah right no it’s not the same thing it’s not a croquette because the croquette is mashed and the hash is shredded there’s only three kinds of french fries small medium and large sweet potato what what do you feel about get the hell out of here with sweet potato fries no sweet potato fries do not satisfy because you need the salty potatoes french fries have to be false the sweet potato fries are it’s a great dessert I love it oh I actually I went somewhere and they were serving their sweet potato fries with guess what marshmallow fluff yeah why do they do that welcome to White Trash Cuisine 101 no you serve sweet potatoes with marshmallows it needs to be served with it with a funky aioli that’s how just to acknowledge sweet potato fries I like this Josh I’m breaking my heart in so many different directions I do we want to live in a world where aberrations can be considered the best of something do we want to live in a world Nicole where a curly fry a waffle fry a potato smile a cottage fry a Sidewinder a flump thumper a swack Jacker can be in the same Echelon as a McDonald’s fast food cut fry if you had I just made of the word swag Jagger um does that mean something I don’t know something Urban Dictionary it means you’re jacking someone’s swag no swack swack Jack I’ll go to people in the gym and be like why can’t you touch me I don’t know I don’t know that’s weird I was trying to touch the table and I accidentally touch you I’ll go up to the gym and just like fist on people and be like yo bro looking swag jacked and I don’t know what it means I just maybe made it up um but the point is if you were to have one french fry for the rest of your life this is where you really find out what your values are what is the one french fry you would eat for the rest of your life okay just alone or with somebody it doesn’t matter it’s just the only question no I’m saying multiple uses for a french fry I’m trying to get to the bottom you know what I’m saying you have one french fry every other french fry in the world disappears like Thanos snapping the other ones go you can only pick one franchise for the rest of your life to use in every single situation fast food Style it’s a McDonald’s fry it’s a McDonald’s fry it’s McDonald’s right I wouldn’t go that far I would go Belgian fruit coat Style I would go original I think they perfected the fry when they did that it’s a little bit thicker it’s going to be a little bit less satisfying with a burger you know what I mean I get it it’s gonna be a little bit less satisfying like steak tartar than a uh but no one is eating fries with steak tartar Josh you got to think about everything the French okay but the French this is an American podcast are you you’re still mad that uh was it Sarkozy didn’t anything about this and I don’t care about it yeah podcast in America what are you eating your French fries like do they call it Freedom toast too oops my thing fell hold on we’re falling apart Josh what about what about wedge what about wedge fries potato wedges potato wedges um they’re battered okay here’s here’s an interesting use case that we need to go through KFC what about them so KFC uh french fries and fried chicken to me it’s not a great combination I like it with slaw is it the same because if Fried Chicken you’re already getting a fried meat I want slaw as the panchon to cut through right if KFC refuses to give me kimchi with my order I need coleslaw but like like french fries don’t work with fried chicken that said people like to eat french fries so KFC used to have their potato wedges and soft and so well seasoned so good and they were fried but it wasn’t like crispy so it didn’t double up necessarily it like it was like it was like fried then wilted yeah exactly it was beautiful it was like fried and steamed it was beautiful it was like a pan-fried then steamed dumpling it was great um they got rid of those for your run-of-the-mill French fries and I have a feeling it’s because and it appears to be very successful people like franchise they don’t want they don’t want these Novelties there’s a reason that when you close your eyes you see that McDonald’s platonic ideal of a french fry and you’re not seeing curly fries I think curly fries work uniquely well with Arby’s I love curly fries so much though like as a standalone dish they do really well I agree with that but not as a loaded dish just like on its own yeah what about loaded fries what do you like as the base of your loaded fries well that comes into the one universal french fry right yeah I guess if you’d only have one universal french fry that means that’s the only fried you can have chili cheese fries with I don’t want chili cheese curly fries me either sounds great I don’t having a seasoning on that with the chili takes away from the chili 100 carne asada fries of the seasoning don’t work for me no no no no no no no I want pure proper Belgian fruit coat freaking Street fries covered in carne asada sour cream salsa verde cheese and guacamole what full love them I love them too love waffles what are we gonna do about that I don’t know you can’t just delete waffle fries they’re iconic and they’re delicious and they hold so much it’s like a cup it’s like a potato cup I saw a few skull waffle fries I call them grab Chris cut fries because I first had them at Carl’s Jr and Carl’s Jr calls and Chris cut fries and I believe that they have actually trademarked that interesting interesting what about I have one more fry God to tickle your fancy I don’t want my fries to be tickled crinkle cut I’ll get the hell out of here crinkle got fries why do you hate crinkle cut fries it’s weird I love them and then I hate them I like have one and I’m like oh it’s okay but in the background I’m like I hate this whole entire experience why am I doing this to myself I freaking hate these with a freaking stupid critical cup franchise they’re so disgusting I hate them I don’t like the ridges on them I don’t hold anything it’s disgusting you’re the biggest proponent at crinkle cutting I love Christmas you bought crinkle cutting scissors for our kitchen to crinkle cut carrots yeah because they look so pretty in soups and stews have you ever have you ever gone to like a Thai restaurant and you’re having the beautiful yellow curry and then you get a crinkle cut Karen you’re like Remington along the crinkles but but not for French fries I don’t think I don’t think it lends itself to me it cheapens the French fry experience and I don’t know if I’m just being elitist about this right but for me it reminds me you know what reminds me of what kids cuisine TV dinners they had crinkling up fries that you would microwave and so for me it’s childish grow up stop crinkle cutting your french fries eat straight cut fries like an adult I always wanted the kid Cuisines with the little Penguin on there yeah my mom never let me get those they were always too expensive but occasionally as like a treat they’d go on sale and be like oh yeah yeah yeah I love french fries so much Josh they are actually one of the best foods what’s what’s the best french fries you’ve ever had in your life huh try and go to your platonic ideal right now try and extract the meaning from that of what made it I don’t think I’ve had it yet you haven’t met your soulmate french fry yet have you been to the Bellwether no man okay Chef Ted Hobson shout out at the Bellwether makes the best french fry I’ve ever had in my life it’s like a three-day process oh they’re like they’re brined they’re blanched they’re Frozen They’re fried they’re frozen again they’re fried again and so they’re extra crispy on that side and they’re thick because to handle that much technique and that much cook they got to be thick because you’re likely losing moisture every time you’re cooking it right unless you’re boiling and adding moisture back in or brining it but the fry you’re definitely losing moisture so they’re thick and they get a crisp Hefty crunch on the outside and then on the inside it is damn near liquidy it is unreal what oh my God and it’s also the type of potatoes again my depth of fields are come here I don’t want to touch it I need to touch you back okay that’s weird [Laughter] I don’t think I’ve had my like uh Optimus Prime but french fry who do you think Optimus Prime is like the number one uh Transformer okay you do know who Optimus Prime is yeah yeah I’m thinking about Maslow’s hierarchy of needs at the same time so it’s like Optimus Prime is like a pure itself actually so like once you can get your basic living expenditures down then you can start transforming an Optimus Prime exactly you have to work your way through like bumblebee I’m in bumblebee mode in bumblebee mode right now you’re still searching for that um I have to ask you whenever it comes to potatoes don’t you hate whenever people try to not use an an all-purpose potato for French fries I hate that what do you mean wait wait explain yourself like yellow when people use like Yukon Gold they should you like Yukon Gold french fries they should yes yes yes yes what about red oh my God what about Kennebec a good Kennebec fry actually I don’t like kind of back I don’t like I don’t like kind of bags we gotta talk about potato cookery real quick so uh potatoes come in three different main varieties right they call them like waxy starchy and then the middle ones are just called middle right but like the waxy potatoes you get are like Irish Red yes which we’ve made french fries with all of these new potatoes if you will new potatoes right uh middle ones you have your Yukon Golds starchy you get your uh you’re touching me sitting closer am I just stipulating more than I normally do just keep your hand here sorry dude just keep your hand here I’m trying to I’m not stay good I’m not okay no now I feel creepy now I feel weird about this I feel like the guy who’s like really just trying to get to the bar and accidentally like brushed the girl and then she like looks back at you and you’re like don’t flatter yourself it’s just a crowded bar Josh you’ve been my friend for four years it’s fine if you touch my hand every once in a while now you have to do a fact so it’s even no do it back okay russet potatoes I think they actually take a deceptive amount of cookery to get right with french fries if you’re like just deep fried a russet potato and it just immediately starts Browning I’ve never deep fried a recipe because starch not whole not whole not whole you got to specify okay but I’m saying like you’ve done you still say you gotta rinse them you gotta dry them you gotta freeze them to get the starch off because starch converts to sugar at high heat right and then you get Browning on your potatoes I’ve made so many worse Russet potato french fries than I have yukon gold and I think the French they use a different kind of potato out there is that what they use I don’t think so I think that was a really specific weird type of potato Sean’s potato I’m sorry yeah I like I like all-purpose whenever I’m doing like fries at home which I rarely ever do but I but I find myself leading towards AP or all-purpose Yukon Gold for some reason doesn’t do it for me I don’t know why like when I go to a restaurant like I’m not asking what kind of potatoes they use I’m not I’m not that kind of person but I do notice whenever they use all-purpose and I’m happier when they do because I think as a whole Walt restaurants they’re doing it right you know what I mean they’re not they’re not home Cooks it’s doing their own thing once you’re typing over there young man I decided that ever existed you already said oh are you gonna say Balthazar no what does balthazine is that the New York in New York apparently they have the best fried rice in New York it’s called Balthazar also I think Shaquille O’Neal or uh Michael Jordan has like the biggest french fry in the world Michael Jordan’s Steakhouse yeah I’m trying to go in Chicago when I go um David said no where I’m trying to find the fries that I grew up eating it was in a bag fan hear me out or Ida what or Ida friends we couldn’t afford or I had a grown-up we had something that were simply called Fajita fries if anybody out there remembers a generic grocery brand product that was frozen and called Fajita fries and you would put them in the oven um and some of the outside ones would get burnt the inside ones would still be soft but they were the most heavily seasoned crispy fries that you could possibly get and I cannot find Maggie I’m Googling right now and I can’t find nothing on fajita fries but they are incredible so that’s it the answer is fajita fries for you fries something that doesn’t exist on the internet that is impossible to find you cannot Source it you can’t Source it which means it’s really hard to source is your favorite fry you just tell me you’re that obscure and you’re that much of a gatekeeper fajita fries thanks for watching [Music] make fast food worthy fries at home with the best frozen fries and waffle fries as ranked by sport heck yeah brother head to sport.com and search fries to find the rankings all right Nicole we’ve heard what you and I have to say now it’s time to find out what other whack yet is a rattling out there in the universe it’s time for a segment we call opinions [Music] next time is that how they do it yeah kinda that was pretty good yeah can I get that like demonic what they call it like a cult scream all right what do we got hi Josh and Nicole this is Nick hey Nick uh 50 cold just to hear that message 50 because I had something to say uh first off you guys are my favorite mythical podcast maybe besides with your riskets but not calling them am I so I just wanted to say visitors are 100 better cold every dessert should be served cold and if it’s not I don’t want it in my mouth chocolate desserts are the best cold but also false factually false yeah very specific reason Nick love you thank you thank you you’re wrong 100 right could not be more wrong in fact yeah I love hot chocolate things Flavors open up more in your in your mouth holes when it’s warm smell Rises smell part of flavor chocolate incredibly aromatic very chocolate really sings when it’s warm to me you have more of their owns and I was uh recently at a restaurant not that reason birdie geez is what it’s called I always wanted to go they do really great work would you go there matzo ball soup best I’ve ever had it’s like 18 I absolutely love it but they have something they call a chocolate icebox cake and it is a reference to going to like a Marie Calendars or one of those types of restaurants sure and they’re taking the dessert straight out the fridge already on a plate putting in front of you crazy crazy right and so they have a cake it is a chocolate cake that they just deliberately keep very very very cold sure and you eat it and it is too dense because cold right if you think about any sort of bread pastry whatever you microwave it it loosens up a little bit which is nice yeah which is nice and again this is what they’re going for but it’s just it is dense it is cold the frosting is seized it is hard it is not as Lively as you want it to be I want like a nice room temp cake with a beautiful crumb and then a cold ice cream next to it I love I microwaved a chocolate chip cookie for like 10 seconds and it was delicious yeah like uh you ever had a what is it like a flourless chocolate cake that has molten in the center that’s incredible unreal um what’s another chocolate dessert I don’t know souffle a chocolate souffle delicious good warm good hot good warm I like cold desserts I understand that they exist but with chocolate desserts especially baked good desserts it needs to be warm give me like an ice cold vanilla bean panna cotta yeah oh my God maybe some bay leaf in there I made a bay leaf and orange cake one time and it was so good it was like you left the whole bay leaves in there you gotta suck off the bay leaves uh the bay leaves you we kind of you kind of like caramelize the bay leaves and then you cut them and they’re so good come on yeah it’s like it was like orange bay leaves on the top caramelized in a bundt cake it was really gorgeous it was really good all right olive oil cake recently candied fennel I made you an olive oil cake like my first like month here remember where was the candied fennel I did I did candied blood or I did blood orange instead I did a citrus I did a citrus situation I did four different kinds of citrus fruits and I put thyme in there do you remember that no what was it for I just you said hey have fun cooking here and I said okay sick yeah this is like in the beginning of the day yeah I I would love to make one today please an olive oil cake do you have time Shake on it we’re touching again fantastic we have good old photos in here too I don’t want to touch it we have blood orange we have blood orange olive oil okay I’m making a cake today next opinion please hi guys uh my name is Cal uh I live in East Los Angeles uh am I a kind of controversial opinion is that I don’t think frying pans are good for frying okay like we’re gonna Fried Chicken I’m looking for like a small pot or something really with edges but frying pans are just not good not good at all for frying I love the show bye this is interesting yes this is interesting because frying means a lot of different things okay right yeah you’re talking about deep frying like oil front like I think it’s the word deep frying exists because it’s the antithesis to a very shallow fry yeah and a shallow fry can be very very shallow a shallow fresh can be a half inch oil if that right almost as shallow as Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper in um a star sport I don’t get that at all so I’m gonna keep talking about veal so like you’re making like a veal Milanese right yeah a frying pan is a perfect vessel yeah and you actually need it for Milanese or uh milanesa as well like I’m thinking about um like the thinnest cut of meat possible yes if you drop it in a deep fryer you’re gonna miss out curl and shrivel it’s gonna curl yeah so you literally need something like a frying pan a very like wide bottom thing that is going to get surface contact on it to keep it flat and then you get extra pan Browning on it yeah so if you think of frying exclusively as deep frying agree that a frying pan is bad but that’s the reason that the term deep frying exists because yes I we gotta fry an egg you have a frying egg fry an egg that example use a frying pan you ever hear people just use the term Grill to mean like anything be like grilled chicken and it’s just cooked on like a flat tire or like throw a burger on the grill I get that right they say that in restaurants all the time at McDonald’s they say throw the Burger on the grill yeah it’s a gradual Grill well they’re similar enough it’s it’s okay that’s what I’m saying there’s a lot of equivocation frying pans I get yeah like No One’s Gonna say Plancha unless you know you want to sound like a really restaurant dweeb like you just watch the bear put it on the Plancha yeah like no because it’s Plancha no one says plunge I’m Maddie Matheson oh my God I just finished girls and the guy Desi is the uncle in the bear and it was so good such different characters incredible even yes even Moss bachrock his name is Evan Evan such a good actor he’s great come on the show I just want to hang out with you okay next opinion hey Joshua Nicole uh my name is Jose um long time listener I started listening to the Gabriel Iglesias uh good podcast episode great episode and then I went back and rewatched everything anyways my food opinion is it’s kind of weird um growing up I I looked up a lot to my brother and he would eat uh popcorn and then he would put Valentina salsa yes yum I was a wimp and I couldn’t handle spicy things uh growing up so instead what I did to kind of imitate him was I would eat popcorn with ketchup on it there um and even to this day it’s kind of one of my guilty pleasures next oh all right thank you guys oh that’s so funny I I totally understand that like trying to like look up to your brother and like emulate him in like different ways so I get it I think that’s really cute it’s adorable I don’t have a problem with it I think popcorn and ketchup kind of makes a little bit of sense not the most not the most yeah less so than hot sauce lesser than hot sauce hot sauce is good on everything but ketchup isn’t good on everything but I’m sure it’s good on buttered popcorn if you watered down your ketchup I feel like it would be more successful I think the only problem I have with this isn’t the flavor right because you want the sweet and the tart right the acid is really what you get yeah when I put hot sauce on most things oh my God oh my God I gotta stop doing this when I put hot sauce on those things it is not it is not for the spices necessarily for the acid so the acid salt sure I get that you know what I mean if there’s a cold sauce maybe I would do that and maybe I would have to poop Less in the middle of my workouts in the morning sorry poop in the middle of your workout I did that the other day I was like one of those my arm’s kind of exhausted was Big Arm blowout day and I was like I could use a break anyways and like and then I went and blew out something but the point is ketchup it’s a little too thick it doesn’t stick keeping my hands over here it doesn’t stick to the popcorn the same way that like a Valentina hot sauce yes yes right I see that yeah because I’m a huge fan of wetting your Crunchies yeah I mean I’m not a big fan of wetting my con wedding my country about wetting my Crunchies I’m not the biggest fan of that but I understand how they taste good together I like the Mexican snack chips like there’s the pork cracklins the um the chicharrones that come with a packet of hot sauce in the bag yeah so you open the packet of hot sauce in the bag put it in the bag shake it wet your Crunchies more it’s a great time I take workout classes so I feel guilty leaving in the middle of my workout yeah that’s why I like but I mean I’m doing like two and a half hour sessions like I’m up at 5 30 every morning gym for my and a lot of it is rehab rehab recovery I’m doing a big knee recovery uh program right now because I’ve been having problems it’s like half hours devoted to that half hour cardio hour and a half lifting holy crap yeah well I used to do two days and I stopped doing two days now so now I’m just waking up earlier doing the mock Wahlberg thing you would spend five hours working out no no I used to do like one a one hour session in the morning then one hour session at night but now I’m like I should probably spend more time with my loved ones so you wake up earlier so I wake up earlier yeah wow good for you two and a half hours but sometimes you gotta poop and Equinox does not have bidets you I know I know I’ve talked to them public bidets are a little weird maybe but like not really spoken to them good good God We Are One percenters now foreign hi this is Luke I’m a long time listener a fourth and fifth time caller what’s a guy gotta do to get on your podcast my opinion about food is that Panda Express has one of the most reliable dumpsters to eat out of because nobody finishes their race they used to be homeless and you can always find a white box full of rice and also there was a Chipotle in Minneapolis where the workers when they closed they would put all of the hot food in one trash bag no dirty napkins No nasty things or anything like that so that when you went to the dumpster you could just find the warm bag and make a burrito I think all food workers should follow this practice because you know it’s like a legal grade Zone but yeah people come to dumpster day we gotta help them out and you know he can’t be implicated if you’re just uh you know throwing all your hot food in one bag and you know maybe even double bagging it or something like that putting a star on it something like that uh anyway uh thanks guys bye Luke 100 100 I think people don’t realize how common dumpster having is I mean hell my family we do it we go out dumpster diving free games they call them as well yeah yeah we would go uh out back of grocery stores because there’s and again like it’s technically illegal and like you said there’s a lot of legal grades I can’t believe it’s illegal where you can’t just give out food and I understand the impetus because FDA regulation not held at a certain temperature yada yada but also this company has a problem which is underserving poor people in every single way 100 so like damn if you’re not gonna provide yeah freaking fast food workers take it upon yourself to make that happen I mean we donate a lot of food and wait we’re 100 legal and everything is checked off listen don’t do anything illegal but I like the star on the bag method a lot yeah 100 I love the star on the bag method and if it can help people hungry people I think it should be done and if it’s illegal sorry yeah I mean listen uh laws are not morality right like we can all agree with that that’s true I agree with that weird that like this is illegal for so long in some in some aspects yes in some aspects no no no flat out laws are not morality they have nothing we maybe they try to don’t kill somebody no that’s a moral thing but like but that there’s also a lot to that sure but like I’m saying something some like uh I got pulled over once because my quote license plate light was too dim and then they said can I search your car and you said no and I said no so the point is laws are there to keep people uh controlled and check and not necessarily for moral reasons welcome to my TED talk I’m saying I’m so glad so many laws is about food so many laws prevent hungry people from getting food right screwed up even food included I agree with laws and regulations about when grocery stores can throw stuff away crazy or unfair with so much preservatives oh my God that it is literally meant to last a lifetime but you’re throwing out the Wonder Bread because it’s past the sell-by date that was arbitrarily put put a star on the trash bags with the warm food shout out to Luke or just find or side note there’s like a ton of programs where companies like Starbucks have done this where they give it to like food banks and stuff yeah I don’t know exactly what the it’s Minneapolis they said they were from maybe there’s I’m sure there’s programs but I get it okay next hey this is Robert from Utah how’s it going hi Robert Josh Nicole and other people about what’s my personal message I think exotic meat and Wild game should be easier access I still go to my local grocery store get a pound of camel meat a dozen Rocky Mountain Oysters and a bucket of eel just have a great weekend I should also be able to go to a greasy spoon Diner I guess some country style elk backstrap with some white gravy I’ve had strap whale in Japan kangaroo in Australia we’re in America give me the meat we’re in America yo I’m a sovereign citizen I deserve camel me no I agree the issue is the the demand probably isn’t there and they extends for these large markets to be able to hold like pounds and pounds of camel meat doesn’t make sense which is why you can buy them online from specialty stores and they can you know send you stuff and stuff like that you know why they have a lot of whale meat in Japan it’s they kill whales in Japan you know why they have a lot of kangaroo meat in Australia it’s like kill and eat kangaroos in Australia the whaling thing in Japan we talked about this a little bit with the food crimes episode it’s it’s a very tenuous gray area and I’m I’m listen I don’t want to come out as pro-wailing but like I’m not educated enough on the subject to speak about it nor am I but um in general I think moral outrage for what animals are except we’ll eat and I know this is an ecological concern not just a moral concern but anyways point is people eat what is around and what historically they have Hunter they’ve been hunting with us for 600 years in Japan um anyways uh dear there needs to be a lot more deer meat in America yeah there’s so many deer and everybody hates them they’re just good no one is calling and telling Kroger hey Carrie dear me I know but it’s delicious we should just be selling it like it’s they’re crappy they’re invasive they’re annoying they jump into cars kill people I love games more deer I think I think eating more gay meat and wild birds it’s healthy it’s a great way to diversify your diet and I think you try new things and you try new flavors and you never know what you’ll find we’ve gotten so efficient in America to where even like we’re growing our chickens that have bigger bazambas you know and so there’s like less Wings literally a wing shortage every Super Bowl every Super Bowl we want is chicken breast yeah you get any wild bird the breast is Tiny compared to a chicken little um cuts like oxtail people the the quandary of oxtail right why it’s so expensive a lot of people like white people gentrified oxtail which is certainly true to some degree I think it’s true to some degree however the other part of it is that we are able to grow cows so much bigger than we used to and more of efficiently but their tails stay the same each cow only got one tail still same as a chicken it only got two Wings you can only grow them so much so we’re having these just massive hormones because they’re pumped with hormones it’s crossbreeding it’s hormones it’s you know just a lot of stuff that’s not for our own food Josh I agree like we’ll go Joe Rogan we’ll go kill some wild boars do you think I could have learned do you think you learned how to use a crossbow yeah do you think I can do it uh I don’t think you pull a crossbow like that okay about how about like I think it’s a Bono I think a crossbow you’d fire like a gun trigger oh yeah like this yeah close enough no I think I could be really good at archery I think I’d be gonna like um convincing the animal that it’s in its best interest to walk into my trap you know like I’d be good at trickery less so Marksmanship I think I’d be a really good Marx Marx woman I couldn’t tie the snare but I could convince the rabbit that it should get its foot in that position gonna talk to rabbits yeah like Professor Doolittle doctor Professor it’s definitely doctor because Dr Dolittle’s um alliterative oh it’s not maybe Professor poo little oh that was the um are you think of the Eddie Murphy version out there no the absentee no no the absentee what’s it called The Nutty Professor that’s that’s Eddie Murphy The Nutty Professor is not Dr Doolittle it’s both Eddie Murphy yes correct that’s where I messed up I messed up there The Nutty Professor and Dr Doolittle are both Eddie Murphy but I I was able to mix up both of those titles and be incorrect well thank you so much for stopping by a hot dog as a sandwich we got new audio only versions of our podcast every Wednesday the video drops every Friday the absentee-minded professor is what I’m thinking of that’s a that’s not a thing right that’s not yes it is are you kidding me that was based on that’s where Nutty Professor or Dr Dolittle one that was based off of oh okay but it was called the absent-minded Professor yes was it like French was it like a if you want any speaker and opinions like casseroles you can hit us up at 833 dog pod one the number again is eight three three dog pod one you ever think about how there’s all these movies that come out that you don’t 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