don’t forget this Thanksgiving season self love is the greatest form of love blah blah blah too much talk about self- Lov not enough talk about self-basting turkeys this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich what Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest internet debates I’m your host Josh a and I’m your host Nicole I love stuffing Thanksgiving sorry I got to do that again no when your parents came here from Iran they they were like what’s the most American middle name we can give her and it was Nicole I love stuffing Thanksgiving I’m sorry Hy Z no we have to do that again we have to do it again okay fine Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest internet debates I’m your host Josh a and I’m your host Nicole and oh you I thought you were going to give yourself a long fictional middle name like you did in the failed take that we just had okay and I’m your host Nicole why not cranberry sauce and I why not cranberry sauce and that is effectively Nicole the topic that we’re talking about today we wanted to take a break from all of our vitriolic debates about whether or not a corn dog is a canoli that’s right uh to actually give people some Salient cooking advice that’s right we have compiled 10 of our greatest Thanksgiving tips we sat there on our on our pters short for computers yeah I’m familiar withs just wrote out everything what else could a pter be Compu for I don’t know you know you eat a big Thanksgiving meal you sit down in the toilet and what’s coming out that pter oh but I don’t know uh but no we got Thanksgiving coming up you know we got a big NFC West matchup with the 49ers playing the Seahawks yeah Jerry Rice is on the 49ers Jerry well I’m glad you know that and his son Brandon rice is on the USC Trojans uh but speaking of football Thanksgiving is the Super Bowl for food that’s right people got to cook a lot that’s true we have a lot of cooking expertise I would say we have a large amount of it and I think we have an ethical obligation to lend that cooking expertise to people to make their lives better that’s right what do you think the the biggest pitfalls during cooking Thanksgiving dinner are I think people just get really caught up in the in the the Whirlwind that is Thanksgiving they want to impress everybody they want to make their homes nice and open and welcome to everybody and they have maybe like 45 things going on at one time when honestly the human brain I’ve heard on Tik Tok can only can only concentrate on four things at one time and like how can you do that when you got potatoes that are you know that are boiling away a turkey that’s cooking you got to base every 15 minutes and then you got to open up the can of of uh cranberry sauce you got to make sure your things are seasoned properly it’s really hard to manage yeah they hold on too tight people hold on too tight you got to Bruce Lee Be Like Water you know what I mean you got got to be fluid you got to move with the groove what I’m saying is if this is up your alley drink a little bit baby that’s my first tip number one cracking the cocktails 10:30 a.m. you can make one of them breakfast cocktails my most successful Thanksgiving dinner ever I was drinking French 75s that’s a mixture of gin lemon juice simple syrup and champag I was drinking French 75 at 10:30 in the morning by the time Thanksgiving been rolled around we didn’t care what the food was so your first Thanksgiving tip is to be drunk yeah that didn’t make our official list of did it really it’s well according to this it’s number nine but you’re but but you’re going off the path a little bit you’re saying so we wrote here get people drunk oh yeah that was number nine or not drunk you can be drunk on conversation as well the point is the meal is listen there’s a lot of people that don’t drink there’s children that listen there’s people who just don’t drink for any amount of Lifestyle reasons um but yeah no you can be it’s about Vibes is what I’m saying okay so you’re saying set the tone by being easygoing lower your actual expectations and this goes for anything in like I think one of the plagues of modern society is that we all have such high expectations that you want to change the world that you want to be famous or rich or whatever no people used to be happy if they knew how to lay bricks well I don’t think they were happy per se for laying bricks but you know what I mean do you think happiness is a new thing is like a new modern thing being happy the way that we consider happiness and comfort is yeah it’s very very new for modern society right yeah and so what I’m saying is lower your expectations to what like an 1830s sorghum farmer would have had you know if you have a baby born without tuberculosis like wow oh my God you did you did so you know if you have food on the table you should be grateful is what I’m saying Thanksgiving is more about Vibes be like water don’t hold on too tight so is the baby with tuberculosis getting it like in the hospital or is born with tuberculosis you don’t know how people got tuberculosis back then but they were always getting tuberculosis oh my God if you look at death rates like 100 years years ago it was just like tuberculosis like 16% it was crazy tuberculosis massive and so you should be grateful that they don’t have tuberculosis and that you’re drinking French 75s on the morning of your Thanksgiving dinner that’s tip number one so number one Josh says Vibes and if your Vibe is drinking do it do it okay yeah what’s an actual more practical cooking tip for people act okay I’m going to since we’re not uh married to this list in terms of order let me see what’s next uh here’s a good one if uh ain’t no shame in the canned food game can sweet potato and craned Canberry sauuce are your Saving Grace sometimes yeah that’s another part of holding on too tight people being like I got to cook literally everything from scratch I got to make my orange zest star Anis cranberry marmalade oh yeah is that a a personal anecdote of yours I did that one year and I was like M worse than Ocean Spray baby yeah I mean like it’s one of those things like if it’s broke don’t fix it like if it ain’t broke don’t fix it like if it’s if it’s already a perfect product like you can Jazz it up a little bit like no one’s going to hate you if you make if you take cranberry sauce that’s in a can and you Jazz it up a little bit that’s cool yeah pop a little Cherry vinegar in there you know make it taste a little bit new yeah utilize modern canning and modern food technology to make your life a little bit easier speaking of terrible times in history the Napoleonic Wars Nicole oh please coming off the optimism of the French Revolution despite the of the Jacobin regimes Napoleonic wars were actually a big um what’s the word I’m looking for I don’t know deal Napoleonic wars were a big deal the Napoleonic Wars really shifted the Paradigm in food production and consumption that’s right because he was like we got to feed all these troops going on their murderous Rampages around Europe and so canned foods and by Napoleon the Napoleonic wars were in vain unless you eat canned cranberry sauce this thing oh also isn’t like I’ve never been a green bean casserole kind of girl but isn’t it all canned stuff other than the French’s onions absolutely green bean casserole traditionally is three canned green even the French’s fried onions they basically come in a can right um that’s three ingredients it’s cream of mushroom soup condensed do not UNC condense it that’s where the flavor is canned green beans and this type of stuff I have made from scratch before but I kind of made it from scratch to try and taste like the canned stuff cuz it’s good but with fresh vegetables it’s going to taste better no it tastes about the same green beans it’s just salty and boiled lean into the can stuff nowhere nowhere you want to put your efforts you can’t put your efforts Nicole if you got like nine friends in your group okay they can’t all be your best friends of course not you know no sometimes you got to just not respond to six of their texts and then you take the three you know that you’re really close with and you know you focus on those relationship it’s same with Thanksgiving and are the three friendships the like dishes yeah oh like okay okay so my recommendation like turkey right number one that’s like it’s the star it’s the star and a bad turkey is terrible and sure can be saved with gravy but number two might be gravy turkey and the gravy that’s important okay you know and then three stuffing I I I choose stuffing as my third so those are the three that you would yeah the rest of it it’s all window dressing not window stuffing because it was left outside the bird don’t put window in your turkey H I think the three most important things to have on a table are turkey gravy and mac and cheese oh oh we’re mac and cheese family oh well that gets us to another rule here Nicole cuz we wrote one about the mac and cheese and we’re going out of order cuz I forgot that I legitimately put get people drunk as our official guidance that’s borderline inappropriate and irresponsible uh we had something about Traditions being malleable there we go Traditions are malleable here’s the thing mhm we got in my family Nicole we grew up on green bean castle some sort of sweet potato some sort of mashed potato stuffing turkey and then cranberry sauce nice mac and cheese deserves nay you deserve to have mac and cheese on your Thanksgiving table why don’t people do that nobody does that it was I believe uh in my internet chronological history um I believe there was a single white who had tweeted mac and cheese does not belong on the Thanksgiving table and then many many black people came out and said hey this is mac and cheese has been on our Thanksgiving table for a long long long time yeah open yourself up to it mac and cheese is the best food it’s great to feed a crowd you can pre-make it the day before pop it in the oven and it is abjectly delicious yeah but you can make your own Traditions yeah I mean like come on like I’m not white I’m not black I’m a Persian Jew that whose family came here in 1990 all of our dishes have a twang of Persian in it for example we don’t do stuffing we stuff the bird with rice also known as to Deli which translates into into the stomach so we do like a rendition on stuffing but it’s a little bit Persian our cranberry sauce David’s Aunt makes this ridiculous cranberry sauce with um what is it it’s cranberries it’s saffron it’s barberries and it’s this sour sweet delicious cranberry sauce that we put on top of everything and even Sometimes some people put a saffron in their mac and cheese so Traditions are malleable and you can do whatever you want it’s it’s up to you to create that dish I’m getting inspired right now I’m trying to game plan my own Thanksgiving now okay and when we’re talking about malleable Traditions I want to eat everything with a tortilla and salsa like that’s just how I enjoy eating my food they you’ve seen me eat I turn everything into tortilla with some sort of salsa or Roy subg as you call it in Hindi right I just want a flatbread and I want saucy meats and I want something acidic on it that’s well spiced okay smart why am I not doing that on Thanksgiving the one day of food the the one day that you should be celebrating food and now I kind of really want to do this I want to I want to make mole I want to have you know flower tortillas I want to take a whole bird and cook it in pigs lard like Carnitas wow you know good little bit of orange on there a little bit of cola um I but the point is you don’t have to be beholden to all the things sure you might have family members that like hey this has to be on the table and respect that but another tip we did write down Nicole is don’t experiment on Thanksgiving okay yeah I have a book so does this run counter to that does this run counter to that well well listen there’s a Tik Tok of a of a fine lady who’s responsible for the you know beautiful spread and everything and she looks at her daughter and says don’t experiment on Thanksgiving and she’s right like don’t do anything crazy that you’ve never done before I mean you can you can experiment here and there if you have the knowledge and wherewithal how to experiment it’s like saying oh are you pointing to yourself right now you got wherewithal to experiment ain’t no experiment I’m a professional I’m not saying leave cooking on Thanksgiving to the professionals but if you are willing to experiment maybe leave it to someone who’s like cooked a lot before well okay no no no here let me let me let me rephrase that a bit let me rephrase that go ahead go your C before we say anything else hold on your Cadence during this podcast is one of the most entertaining things I’ve ever listened to in my life you sound very different today well that’s cuz we’re actually talking about cooking and I don’t have to think a lot so I can just let it flow out I just let it flow like are no how Josh is talking F out of myou it’s almost like he is going up in infliction and then down in infliction almost like he is a robot of sorts and I’ve never heard you talk like this with a microphone in front of you all I’m saying is I’m very passionate about no I it’s incredible the way you’re talking slow roll your experiments slow roll them out do it like a um what do they call it in like Tech beta do a beta beta test right you think I know anything about I don’t know anything either but no I’m saying if you got a new tradition if you got a new experiment you want to put out into the universe you want to put on your Thanksgiving table one at a time do it gradually right you don’t need to shock the entire table so say for me right I might simply add a new spice to that turkey I might rub it down with a little bit of Chile right it’s still a whole roasted bird I’m not going to cook it in a whole bat of pork fat it I’m also that’d be really cool oh I got a fryer it just like slow cone a turkey would that work though because then you’re overcooking the breast confi I think you’re willing I think you’re willing to sacrifice a crappy breast for the rest of the payoff Shad the breast and then you put that in mole o I’m getting ahead of myself and I’m not following my own rule which is right like you don’t have to do it all at once bot you know you can slowly add these things into your repertoire because that’s what cooking is right you slowly add things into your rep you learn you remember you learn one dish and then that stays in the back of your mind for forever and then you learn another what’s it called whenever you like know something really well and oh you like adapt endemic knowledge oh yeah sure I don’t know I said that that’s just a word I said Stephen King what about him he writes books yeah he has movies I just wanted to shout him out real quick no Stephen King he said something once that uh kind of hit me a little bit hard he was like like how do you have time to write all these books how have you written all these books he like if you write one page a day which does not take long if you want it to be good that’s a different story but if you write one page a day a year later you just have a whole bu 365 Pages if you learn a new you learn a new dish this year for Thanksgiving you make that part of your tradition next year even the year after you do another one 5 to 10 years suddenly wow you have a whole new Thanksgiving tradition you know what I mean and I think that’s kind of beautiful and that’s the malleable uh way of cooking okay this feeds into another one of our Thanksgiving tips which is lie to people lie to people that is this is my favorite one tell them about lying to people yeah so what we have here in our notes is use box mashed potatoes add one fancy ingredient store bought dinner rolls with an herb butter brushed over over top it’s pretty self-explanatory man like people don’t need to know all your secrets like people don’t need to know everything that you’re doing if they say oh my gosh these are the best mash potatoes I’ve ever had what did you do and they’re boxed it’s no one’s business that they’re boxed I’m going throw out a little correlator here if you go to a restaurant and you see something that says housemade Chipotle aoli what do you think they’re doing in the back to achieve that I think they’re taking mayonnaise and taking chipotle peppers and blending them together I agree with that entirely yeah if it tastes really good are you going to be mad I would never be mad I never be mad they’re they’re technically not I don’t care that much when I go to restaurant I just want to dip my tater tots and something I literally don’t care if restaurants do that if anything I respect them for not doing like BS labor I went to a French beastro recently not to be named but it’s the one you’re thinking of the one by my house one that I normally like and you say you don’t really like it and I’m like sure they have some seasoning issues and some consistency issues um but you know sometimes the food’s good and then you’re like yeah but are you really like their burger cost like $40 like you want continue with your story so I got the burger which was lovely but uh french fries are supposed to come with a housemade aoli and this is a French Beast show right their aoli should be thick and Luscious and it was P it was broken oh really broken runny raw yolk separated ra GT even salt didn’t even emulsify into it cuz it just rested at the bottom and I said nothing and it could have been I have a feeling somebody trying to make it just broke point is that is a housemade aoli yeah putting chipotes into a mayonnaise I wouldn’t say that’s housemade o you’re stretching the truth a little bit technically you mix those two things in house that’s great but I would have much rather had Chipotle peppers mixed with Best Foods mayonnaise than some some trying I assume their best to emulsify and themselves so this is to say mashed potatoes I think where they’re one in lost it are the flavorings you add to them you want roasted garlic go for it and if you can save an hour of your life by just mixing the Box stuff with milk which again the Box stuff is just cooked potato that has been dehydrated if that was in a fancy restaurant that would be Molecular Gastronomy to totally we we took all the water Nicole we took all the water out of the potato and we replace that with pure butter and milk so we could inject even more Dairy flavor like that’s mular Gastronomy congrats you are gr aets of Alia freeing box mash potatoes but you know throw some smoked Gudda in there throw some chives in there throw some roasted garlic and then if people say these homemade you go yes also who are you and how did you get into my house yeah I like keeping secrets from people too what are other good things you can lie about um other than food well yeah sure let’s go down no I don’t want to it’s Thanksgiving come on be be a little bit you know in terms of like food stuff no like to your romantic partner no can I tell you what I do not know what shoes go with which outfit for Juliet but then every time she goes what shoes do you like these shoes are the issues I’ve always pointed left is that true yeah so she’ll hold them and I always point to the left interesting it’s just easier now as a reflex and she always looks great you know what I mean the wor I don’t know me and Analise are looking at you like huh oh that that was a shock oh wow that’s the big Sal relationship hon I am honest no it’s not that I can’t be honest I don’t know which would look better I am a dummy but but she needs confidence what’s one thing I li My Rel oh my God those are so much better they look beautiful you’re beautiful I love you what’s one thing I lie about in my relationship h i tell David I’m ironing clothes and I’m honestly on Instagram reals that’s my big lie I’m scrolling babe I’m always scrolling I’m not ironing stuff I’m scrolling I do that with pooping I just sit there for a while you know I have like I I am going in there in good faith to poop but sometimes I can’t but I need to do it because I’m on a schedule you know there’s something wrong with my brain I don’t if any people are out there that know but but I just sit I sit pantsless and I just shirtless I scroll shirtless pants list yeah I take off clothes to poop I know this is weird butos told yesterday at the parking lot that he takes off his shirt to poop like George castanza we all knew this about me right does any not know this and I literally was shocked my favorite thing is when I wear shorts at the office cuz I take off all my clothes but when I wear shorts I don’t have to take my shoes off all your clothes in the work bathroom yeah I why I wait for the big stall you take off your St I don’t wear socks but what about your hat uh no well I I’ll take off my hat to take off my shirt then Hat Comes Back on but the best thing if I’m wearing pants I take off my shoes because the pants won’t fit over it but if I’m wearing shorts and this is real I just get shoes on but then the shoes give you more traction to grip the floor I learn so much about you every day yeah add some fresh herbs to box stuffing oh yeah that’s nice you should definitely do that okay let’s see what else we got here okay um sides rain Supreme Focus your energies on the best part of your dish that was you because I just said turkeyy is the best part and you should focus your energies on that Nicole explain yourself this is turning into a vitriolic debate it’s not vitriolic what’s VRI what’s what’s vitriolic about this my mouth is dry I forgot to put stuff in my cup and I went have some of my I water spit what’s in this you can have some of my ice water I’m going to drink the spit oh my God okay so I was thinking about how you construct like a plate of T of like turkey dinner and whenever you think about it like a turkey like the turkey isn’t like the biggest part of your dish when you look at a plate holistically what you’re not going to eat a whole turkey leg if you’re the guy who takes the turkey leg at Thanksgiving I hate you if you’re that person is that you God I who do you think it is Nicole like like in just you just go to town you don’t even like bother like share like the oyster part with anybody like GH I hate you um but yeah it’s like an eighth of your plane then everything else that means there’s 7/8 left of your plate to make really special so when you think about it the gra is really really special you should probably season it really really well the stuffing is going to be really really you should take care of that I have salad at my thanksgivings I don’t know if you do salad you don’t do salad at your thanksgivings we have salad uh somebody’s always like somebody should make a salad I’m like greens or like or like uh like several cooked vegetables yeah cooked vegetables roasted vegetables like those things are just as important as the turkey the turkey is the centerpiece don’t get me wrong but whenever you look at an actual plate of turkey dinner it’s not the biggest part of the it’s everything else that makes the total of the dish so concate on those things put a little bit of effort into them I love that you’re going by the geographic size of the foods on the plate as to like their importance right so like when people are like um look how big South Dakota is it deserves just as much representation as Ohio it’s like well no Ohio has like 30 times the people that’s how I feel about this like the is that not how I feel the sweet potatoes are South Dakota they’re big and they’re just there no I do love sweet potatoes I’m trying to think of the worst side but all the sides are great all the sides are good because if all the sides weren’t great they wouldn’t be on my plate I only serve things that I love the salad but we we can kill that um no that’s a good point cuz well I was going to say one of my things is um turkey you should focus on it you know but but now I’m going to reneg I’m going to reneg I’m going to recant off with that okay I’m going to recant and I will say the turkey it’s important you should focus on it but you should only focus on two things on the turkey and that is salt and wet oh this is this is one of your this is one of your uh tips self-basting turkeys this is cool self-basting turkeys a lot of people don’t know this what a self-basting turkey is is just a wet Brin turkey so the reason it’s self-based is because there’s fat salt and water injected into the bird meat and then when you uh bake it the fat in in salt water which is to say like broth cuz it’s been inside a turkey comes up from the meat and Cascades over the bird so it’s like pre-injected with these things and you buy it pre- injected and pre-br yes it’s not the basting but basting we we did this in when we tested Thanksgiving turkey myths basting does help um but the best thing you can do for any poultry is to Salt it a day ahead I would say brine dry brine a lot of people seem to be intimidated by that cover that beey in salt man that’s the only thing that matters the salt penetrates it makes it juicy it makes it flavorful make sure your your turkey is salty and wet because so many turkeys are dry and unseasoned the herbs that you’re adding to the outside of that skin don’t do squat the lemons you are shoving up its hold to perfume it don’t do squat you want salt and you want wet and self-basting turkeys will get you there also side note Popeye sells turkeys did you know this no get the hell out of here what Popeye sells Cajun turkeys I can buy for $99 why the hell am I not doing that every year I don’t know but again get a self-based I’m not saying that the popey’s ones are self-basting but they are pre-seasoned probably wet brine too oo that’s good that’s good what else do we got here what else do we got here no okay this is this is a good one I said I said practice you know that’s how you get good at cooking yeah in that video uh when the woman says don’t experiment on Thanksgiving I believe the issue was she used a mac and cheese recipe that had like cream cheese a real Buzz tasty ass macaroni recipe um if you want to do that do it on your own time and practice and if it’s really good and if you’ll stand by that dish serve it on Thanksgiving um but if not you know that’s great you just get to eat it for a weeknight dinner and your shame is your own practice practice is an important part of Thanksgiving and I I made a really incredible um it was a Chinese American themed Thanksgiving dinner really U my brother and I tag teamed it and we did like five spice roast duck and um but the thing that I made was you know the almond cookies you get rest made a crumb crust out of that and then I did a red bean bottom and then I did a custard like a what’s it called oong tea custard top and I just wish I would have practiced I wish I would have practiced and known that the cookies are simply too Sandy cuz the fillings were great the cookies were just kind of too Sandy to be a good crumb crust and I would have just rather use vanilla wafers or something and so practice would have taken me a long way on that that happened to me too actually with pie I was making uh it was the first time I was at David’s big family Thanksgiving and I was really intimidated they’re like oh you’re the baker what are you going to make and I asked my mother-in-law I’m like what’s your favorite pie and she said coconut cream pie and I said great so I made it and it was just not that good I wish I practiced that more too well this feeds into number eight oh yeah Outsource dessert Outsource it if you’re hosting Thanksgiving hire someone on Fiverr as someone who bakes and has a children’s cookbook like you know just maybe I don’t know sometimes Outsource dessert if you’re doing other things take load off of your own bad can I talk bad about an ex on this podcast bad about an ex just don’t use their name no but like she uh said she loved baking pies and everyone said she was very good at baking pies and that seemed to be part of her identity but every year something would go terribly wrong with the pie and then she would be incredibly this isn’t talking bad about her but then she would just be like incredibly stressed you know and then the pie would never be get and then people would have to sort of like lie to her and say the pie was good it’s just there’s too much that can go wrong with baking it’s make your life worse you know especially cuz the ovens are at so many different temperatures it’s like it’s a recipe for disaster if you’re making like a custard filed something just just leave it to the professionals call 48 24 hours ahead of your B like call them 24 hours before 48 hours before and just it’s something just to check off The Bucket List you know what I mean and again you should be too drunk by that point to care or you can lie to people and say yes I made this blackberry pie that has the Kirkland sticker still attached to it you can do that right um there’s one more there’s one more I trying to think uh the Chicago Bears Chicago Bears Justin Fields right they were like we don’t even know if he’s the quarterback of the future and who do they have as backup Nicole um uh Pablo Delores Tyson bent listen and I’m I I would have never said that name went to a D2 school but it’s like if you’re not sure about your quarterback he might want to have a good backup you know what I mean the 49ers they brought in Sam darnold former number one pick you know what I mean so all I’m saying is have good backups that’s why the Eagles have Marcus Mariota and people who get that reference will laugh at me anyways the point is he has nerve damage in his throwing hand and he can’t throw a spiral and the point is if you’re worried about not being able to execute any dish have it backup have a backup you if you can’t cook a turkey have a backup ham sitting outside isn’t that like extra work though for them to do buy a can buy a can of gravy oh if you’re worried about your gravy breaking have a can of hin home style sitting in your pantry that’s a good idea you don’t have to buy a backup for everything that’s a good okay okay you buy a backup right you’re not going to spend money on a backup safety buy a backup are the important things Nicole you’re right backup quarterback have a good slot Corner who can play outside sorry I am so keyed into football man birds are rocking got to flip the Hat forwards for good luck so should we tell them what our t tipar I can just go through them really fast yeah yeah run through the 10 tips okay they are not in the order that we said them they’re in the order that I have written down okay practice number one don’t experiment on Thanksgiving number two except do if you know what you’re doing if this is your first time making a turkey get the self-basting kind or just get the popey’s one uh sides rain Supreme lie to people use Cann foods have backups no Tyson bent Outsource dessert get people drunk SL have Good Vibes trade for Josh dubs and traditions are malleable who would have thought Josh dubs that of Tennessee you know 6 years seven years something into his career he’s out there he looks great you know Cardinals they didn’t know it was up and that’s the real message of Thanksgiving you’re always a contender in the NFC West Happy Thanksgiving we’re grateful for you go [Music] Birds cook up your own Feast while wearing the mythical kitchen apron it features an adjustable neck strap and 100% heavyweight cotton Denim and it’s got a great big pocket for keeping tasting 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enjoy discussions about food and I even like a little quote unquote silly now and then but this podcast is 90% just plain silly I’m sure they have knowledge about food thank you but it turns into what sounds like two middle schoolers giggling and talking about whatever pops into their heads to be fair doesn’t sound like you’re being quite there quite Fair there AMD Roger l I’ve only listened to 3.5 episodes but I cannot continue okay I think this podcast heals both of our inner child sometimes and this is our hour to just talk about stuff that excites us and uh makes us feel good and um if that sounds like middle schoolers giggling and talking about whatever pops in their heads it’s because that’s what it is and I enjoy doing that with you and even though there’s some you know moments where we’re like super intellectual maybe more you than I but like super intellectual and all about like the facts and stuff there’s moments like that but the moments I personally cherish as your co-host or the moments where we’re just Giddy and excited around talking about things and I think it heals our inner child and that is worth more than the intellectual stuff because you can get that from any podcast our greatest fear is not that we’re inadequate it’s that we’re powerful beyond measure it is our light not our darkness that frightens us and when we let that inner light shine we allow others to do the same Maryann Williamson inexplicable presidential candidate um I think that’s one of the things that we really pride ourselves in is sort of allowing that silliness to come out and I also believe though that we do hit a lot of intellectual topics we had a I mean we had a whole discussion about how migration patterns affected fish mislabeling in the industry um but I love that we’re not only that and this is going to sound very aggressive but stupid people think I’m stupid does that does that track like there’s some people like um somebody once said it no we shouldn’t flame no screw it somebody once said Joe Rogan is a stupid person’s idea of what a very smart man is okay I mean and I think people who think Joe Rogan is smart would think I’m stupid I’m not saying Joe Rogan is not smart I have no idea um but all I’m saying is I I think stupid people hear me talk and go you’re stupid and then smart people hear me talk and go like oh there’s a lot of smartness framed within a guise of silliness a GU that I very much cherish and I think we are a little bit intentional about that there were times when we thought the podcast was getting a little bit too stuffy and it was me just soap boxing you know and so I’m glad that we can have fair amount of silliness and maybe you listen to the wrong 3.5 episodes or maybe our podcast isn’t for you and that’s absolutely fine that’s totally okay so I give this review four stars honestly I would say four stars it was actually pretty pretty well reasoned and and thought out you know um I think a little bit of editorializing there and I don’t like the to be fair but because I I feel you’re not being fair not applying that fairness to everything within that statement but not a bad review um AMD Roger L thank you for letting us know let’s get in some Thanksgiving opinions do you also think your inner child is being healed a little bit no I I have my inner child is locked up in a basement chained away I haven’t cried in like 18 years I refuse to allow myself to feel get back in there inner child you’re not needed God I’m going to make you so happy one day that you have no choice but to cry that’s my goal for 2024 make Josh happy cry waiting for it okay hey Josh and Nicole my name is Lauren and I have a food mystery for you guys my favorite Thanksgiving side dish is cheese pie it’s a family tradition that I’ve never heard of anyone else doing it’s not cheesecake it’s a stavy pie served with the meal hell yes and you eat it with the turkey and stuffing and stuff it’s a homemade traditional double pie crust filled with sliced cheddar cheese and baked for like 40 minutes that’s it it’s the most delicious combination of melty cheese and Flaky pie crust and it goes so well with a bite of Thanksgiving turkey oh my God I was wondering if Josh’s encyclopedic brain might know if this actually has historic Roots anywhere I’ve been told it’s a family tradition that originally came from Wales but I can’t find anything similar online I’ve never met anyone outside my family who does this or has even heard of it did someone in my family just make this up in the past or does it have historical root somewhere thanks guys you’re my favorite podcast by a mile love you bye Lauren I love you uh please go back to our uh Thanksgiving tips number five lie to people seems like maybe your family is lying definitely what happened definitely what happened I don’t know I think this might be a lie just to make your you know you guys feel good like like my family is like oh like you know your mom is like a part Spanish I did a DNA test 99% % Persian not a single Speck of Spaniard in me I’ve never heard of this but what it immediately reminded me of is like Brion crout don’t know oh oh sorry you needed to know the original French pronunciation um but no I mean uh so a lot of French Traditions then got sort of passed over to England um because there was a lot of just Royal Court sharing so a lot of like British High Society had a lot in common with French aristocracy and the food certainly became part of that um Brion crout is just a wedge of Brie or a wheel of Brie that is baked inside of a pastry crust and one of my favorite things is within General immigration patterns in diaspora is you take the traditional foods of one place and then you kind of replace them with like more blue Cy type things or at least things that are blue Cy to us this is just like American Brion crout which I think is fascinating it’s like eating uh meatballs with Iceberg salad in uh New Jersey my problem is if it’s just cheese and pie crust mhm I feel like there needs to be something in the middle like to to give it some like so when when she initially said cheese pie I thought it would be like there’d be an egg and maybe flow finding it which would just give it effectively like a kiche right yeah that’s that’s what I thought but then she just said sliced cheese and homemade pie crust and I’m like huh cuz I have no idea what would happen cuz cheese at high Heats obviously it’s going to separate into oils and proteins and all that yeah but if you just put enough of it in there maybe it doesn’t May doesn’t I don’t know maybe the pie crust steams and sort of insulates it in a way I’ve never heard of this um but I was recently researching uh an obscure Regional American Pie cuz hear me out sweet potato pie is a thing so I thought why not white russed potato pie found out it is a soul food dish coming from uh Chesapeake Bay Region way like Bal Baltimore Baltimore Maryland that’s my attempt at a Baltimore accent um but uh yeah I really want to try that out I really want to try out cheese pie it sounds fun no but I I wish I had a better answer for you sounds like fun yeah Brion CR that’s my guess Josh Nicole hi buddy it’s the day after Thanksgiving I’m slightly hung over from drinking 120 proof whiskey all night that’s way to do it not very bad though just a little bit I got to go to work at my normal time of 8:00 a.m. it is currently 7:50 and I’m sitting in a car in my driveway oh my gosh cuz I’m also just going to be late cuz I’m going to have a big fat breakfast burrito to you know help with the hangover man’s got his head on St and I’m gonna lose a little credibility for this given that my my burrito of choice is a chili ver burrito which is made with pork yum um the worst food undeniably at Thanksgiving is ham in any form except bacon if you use bacon bacon is bacon bacon is God but bacon is the worst or not bacon ham is the worst meat on the table Bar None turkey’s the best I said what I said I just I don’t really like pork chops it’s just not good turkey is better in every form in every situation ground turkey turkey lunch meat it’s all better anyway all right love the show guys what do you Nicole you grew up not eating porks I’m curious about your uh we never had ham at our Thanksgiving table I did have ham at an Easter one time at my ex-boyfriend’s house um wasn’t that great but I said M so good hated it um so I don’t love ham in general I grew up hating turkey and loving ham simply because I never had a turkey that was cooked properly but now and I will gladly eat a ham on Easter on Christmas cuz to me those are ham holidays whereas to me Thanksgiving is a turkey holiday exclusively so to me ham the only ham don’t fit quite right with the rest of the things gravy on ham is really weird to me I think ham needs a sweet sauce I made something called a Jezebel sauce once that was like marmalade and horseradish and mustard and vinegar so good put that on ham I love Honey Baked Ham you do good work you do God’s work you are missionaries proz the message of ham and I love that but food is contextual right to me Thanksgiving is a turkey holiday that is that’s thyme that’s Sage that’s gravy that ain’t pineapple and marcino cherries save that for East sure you know um but as far as just disliking pork in general pork pig meat is maybe the best meat oh lamb is number one but Pig meat’s pretty close for too I think beef is the best meat I think it’s beef chicken turkey pork lamb beef you got turkey above pork you you don’t like lamb like at all I don’t love lamb it’s probably the least amount of that’s like the least meat I eat oh God I eat so much lamb um but no I think a lot of people have been overcooking pork for a long time um yeah because FDA guidelines uh or USDA USDA guidelines uh initially had pork uh being uh 160 degrees which is fully well done because of the big chosis outbreak in the 1970s and then recently I believe 10 years ago is they lowered it back down to 145 which is the proper cook temp for a pork chop but also I respect your opinion look at you with your food knowledge I’m very smart we are a very intellectual podcast Josh I think you’re really smart um we do that every day I debate you every day all the time why is she refusing to debate me S I all I do is debate are you debating me about debating you oh gosh hi guys it’s Christina calling in from Detroit Michigan love that voicemail sounds so nice also I’m pretty sure this is the clest I’ll ever come to talking to you guys in real life which is very exciting um okay so I’m one of those weird o who doesn’t like their food to touch I know I know um but I will say that there are a few things that I do appreciate when they touch some foods are meant to go together Thanksgiving dinner meant to go together um meatloaf and mashed potatoes meant to go together Kentucky Fried Chicken food bowl meant to go together one weird combination that I love together is Caesar salad and mashed potatoes you need to get the perfect bite I wouldn’t mix them but I would take a bite of Caesar salad and a bite of mashed potatoes and it’s delicious and I would love if you tried it sometime and that’s it hope you guys are well talk to you soon or not I don’t know bye I like when all my food touches like an orgy yeah who knows where the pleasure is coming from the salmon touching the Cucumbers it’s touching the rice it’s just pleasure baby um no I agree with you you know both about group sex and about food what do you sorry what Nicole got giggly fits I need to know more about Christina’s dislikes when it comes to food touching because I hate this is a thing I’ve recently thought about oh really what could it mean I hate when people serve brazes on top of purees why so for instance for instance like a a bra short rib with like nice Demi or gravy whatever served on mashed potatoes I love that the gravy if you Fork down at the short rib it’s just going to mash the potatoes with the the gravy it’s already Mash I don’t want it Mash together I want those served entirely separately like an Indian curry with you know the various sides I want the short ribs completely separate from potatoes or whatever puree if it’s rice different story rice absorbs and doesn’t just turn into a mush what you’re saying is nuts because a demig gloss is just a gravy so mashed potatoes and gravy don’t don’t put the the meat on there then give me a separate bowl of M because when you have to Fork the meat you no I’m serious you you mash the gravy into potatoes already mashed what are you saying no I’m saying I hate when you like blend gravy into potatoes accidentally the gravy needs to sit on top of the potato and act as a flavor cont so hard ni I’m going so hard I’m going so freaking hard I’m going going so hard talking about there’s okay well maybe use a spoon you’re so aggressive relax just use a spoon what is the the fork the magical Fork don’t use the fork use a spoon just give me two bowls just give me two bowls yeah too many dishes this isn’t about that this is about this is about Cesar salad mashed potatoes E I would never do that no what she’s chasing and she’s correct she’s crazy but she’s correct no I’m down to put Caesar dressing on mashed potatoes but the lettuce the wilty lettuce trying get she wants Caesar dressing she wants that garlic she wants that acid she wants the pepper she wants the parmesan cheese just put it on the potato but also so I cooked a thing the other day I called it I called it bubble and leak instead of bubble and sque but I use leaks you’re so funny I was talking about a fun week night dinner I made for the person I love so what I did is I took leaks I sliced them pretty freaking thin right and then I hit them with a little bit of butter saw there like a de glazed it in milk little milk the glazing and then I boiled yeah whatever and then I boiled down the Leaky milk and then I cooked potatoes and I just like siphoned those off not siphon what’s it called sifted I sifted my potatoes like I was panning for gold and 18 49 Califor Tam yeah and then I put that into the Leaky milky butter mixture and mix that all around so almost equal parts potato and leak and so you get like vegetable chunks framed by the potato that was really nice and that that that is what she’s after with the Caesar salad vegetable chunks framed by potato salad dressing that’s a good food and I when people are like oh I don’t like hot salad grow up I don’t love hot salad I microwaved my salad today it was too cold well it’s because this room is so cold this room is so cold and the salads are in the room I’m freezing in this room take the chill off of your salad not everything needs to be iced cold okay take the chill off of your salad the best salad in the world which is the Olive Garden salad is ice cold I don’t like that that the Olive Garden salad would be better if they let it sit on top of the bread scks for 3 to four minutes before serving absolutely the AR you are the man who literally talks about contrast all the time you’re like I love it whenever the cold saluces over the hot T tacos with the camarones that’s you man you talk about that all the time and you have the audacity to say that the salad needs to be the same or similar temperature to the bread sticks the bread sticks are hot the salad is cold you eat them together and then you have a good time and I can’t believe you did you said those things about the short room it really pissed me off Josh it really pissed me off you pissed me off Josh Nicole you’re at the Olive Garden you got a bowl of men I haven’t been to Olive Garden in 20 year 23 years the bread sticks are going to get to room temp it’s such a light bread with so much dough conditioner that’s going to get to room temp in about 3 4 minutes right Josh you’re angering me take be your I’m about my mic is over my shoulder you should be on your fourth Diet Coke by that time that what are you drinking at the Olive Garden Iced Tea unsweetened oh God that’s fun well on that note this wouldn’t have been a podcast without a Thanksgiving fight just like middle schoolers do well thank you so much for listening to a hot dog is a Sanders you got new episodes audio only coming out on Wednesdays and that old video drops on YouTube on what’s the other day Sunday I think so yeah Sabbath black Sab yes if you want to be featured on opinions like casserol hit us up at 833 dogod 1 the number again is 833 dogod 1 and Josh I’m thankful for you did you know that Black Sabbath before the band existed was the name of a song by a band called coven say it back which is really interesting and even though a lot of people credit Black Sabbath for inventing the heavy metal genre just okay don’t say you’re thankful for me just say what you’re thankful for you really have to go back to Helter Skelter by The Beatles which of course what do you think inspired Marilyn Manson to commit gruesome murders thank you so much for stopping by uh we got new videos out on mythical kitchen Channel every week Nicole I am very thankful for you too and I’m very thankful for all of them we’re thankful for you guys big thankful time thanks for watching and [Music] listening