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nicole what do you think onion rings french fries trash onion rings are trash you’re trash you are a bad person for believing that onion rings are better your moral character is beneath mine for your simple food preferences because that is how these debates go okay we’re debating which is better okay which is a better finger food and it’s a hundred percent onion rings how could they taste better than french fries i think just taste it because we need to go into the idea of utility right yes like what are we talking about are you talking about what defines better as a side for a sandwich are we talking about onion rings as a standalone food you got the late night munchies you find a box of those onion rings in the freezer versus like a thing of or ida crinkle cut french fries which is better what is the main utility of fries or onion rings i argue it is simply as a side to a sandwich which does include hot dogs and hamburgers oh don’t have hamburgers ham dogs like i say library i started saying library ironically oh my god and then now it just turned into me sounding like rarity i also uh exclusively say wednesday oh my gosh you’re one of those yeah just being there you are like remember how you said that you’re like the seventh grader that’s literally still you uh yes yes yeah yeah i um ryan’s gonna cut this out of the edit but i don’t care like in the ninth grade to troll my teacher um i just i i read the satanic bible just openly in class just to have it because i was just that like weird little antagonistic 14 year old he was just like i don’t get enough attention at home let’s find it from you stranger um i think satan is in french fries i think the soul of satan is in french fries uh no i think french fries are delicious i love french fries if i see a friend try i’ll eat it mcdonald’s french fries sign me up shoestring steak fries uh whatever french fry i have i love but onion rings are better there’s so much care that goes into an onion ring and can you agree with me that onions might be one of the most important food ingredients ever to be invented we’ve we’ve talked about this the invention of the onion when thomas j onion invented onions he did they’re so important onions are the cornerstone of flavor when it comes to any sort of a majority of savory dishes that’s the thing i i absolutely love onions i mean potatoes too right like they’re sure in so many cultures yes and all that but to me is an onion ring even close to the best way to prepare or fry an onion i say it is not it is not in the top five one side dishes for any sandwich but two it’s not in the top five ways to like fry an onion you could take any other shape of an onion you do like the onion petals right where like you know you cut it into you know the kind of thick strips like onion chips you could do frizzled onions you could do a bloomin onion and every single one of those is better than the onion ring because when you bite into an onion ring and then you just slurp out the sweaty onion are you kidding me that’s the best part whenever you like yeah whenever we have like you’re looking like an onion walrus and then you have just a beautiful ring of toasted fried goodness to munch on like afterwards if that’s what you wanted no okay so one i have seen you just eat straight naked fried batter often and then you have it that’s you you that’s you we were both doing that we were looking into a mirror josh the ultimate narcissist i’ve seen you do this josh that was you uh no we were making like uh it was when we did the corn dog hush puppy thing i ate one bite you ate a whole entire hot dog corn casing yeah this is true i ate probably about a pound of just straight fried cornmeal batter like a bite which this is this is actually going to an important place because i agree that fried batter is absolutely delicious but the onion inside of it just getting this wet onion noodle syrup it is a food that is not ergonomically designed for people to eat it’s a farce it’s something that looks good it’s not ergonomic no a ring where you get a wet onions it’s a circle that you bite and then you have a crescent moon with or without onion who cares start with the crescent moon start with a crescent moon shape i would have so much more respect for onion rings if they were just cut in half before frying josh you like johnny rockets i love oh my god yeah i love johnny rodriguez what did you get from johnny rockets when you were a youth i got whatever their barbecue burger is my brother actually worked at johnny rockets in high school yeah you wore the whole white get up with the paper hat and you know my brother you can imagine him he had like hair down to his butt too he had long hair oh yeah john had hair down to his butt but he looked exactly like me yeah i have to show you pictures of john it was the grossest hair he used to come up to me and he would whip me with his gross hair and it was like coarse it was like you know i i can say this it’s like it’s the coarse jewish hair you know and when it’s long because it was like a metal head and it grew long and so was it straight literally down to his butt yeah it wasn’t straight it was like wavy oh my god it was totally pre-pubescent it just tucked up in a johnny rockets all white you know 1950 style okay so yeah i actually used to get the onion rings at johnny rockets and i used to dip them in warm barbecue sauce is that i think that is the best onion ring dip yeah but that said my taste has evolved and changed it took me a long time because i wanted to be an onion ring person this is dead true okay when i was a kid i thought onion rings were like the adult choice like this sophisticated man and i used man specifically because i was a small boy looking for role models and i was like the sophisticated man orders onion rings that is a step above french fries but now that i realize you know part of masculinity when you’re growing up is denying yourself pleasure right it’s drinking black coffee and spicy unless you’re a hedonist yeah exactly exactly but you know i think part of you know being raised in a masculine household is to believe that denying yourself pleasure is part of it and i’ve learned to lean into the simple pleasure of french fries over onion rings i do agree that it’s simple i just there’s something about the care that goes into making an onion ring you know the cutting of the onion the the punching out of the onion rings and then dipping it in flour dipping it in batter frying it to perfection and i just think there’s so much care and love that goes into an onion ring that it doesn’t even compare to a french fries which is why it’s better i think putting effort into things makes things better well that’s how i operate we get i know you do because we got into a similar debate on does ketchup belong on hamburgers yeah because you were talking same exact conversation and i had no idea this was going to go this way but it kind of is true because i agree with you that the best onion ring i don’t know if it’ll it won’t trump the best french fry but the best onion ring to me will trump a lot of french fries because like you said there’s a lot of care that goes in the process you know making a wet batter and having that not only fry perfectly crispy perfectly crisply but having it stay perfectly crispy after it’s like been sitting in a window and getting to your table yeah and all that it’s a really difficult process it takes a lot of care but most people screw it up like royally really badly most people do not know how to make onion rings and a lot of places don’t do a wet batter where they’ll just do like you know a bread crumb crust or whatever and then when you’re cooking bread crumbs as opposed to a wet batter the onion on the inside doesn’t have enough time to steam yeah you think about it raw and weird yes bread crumbs are already cooked so when you fry them again they brown super you know quickly and you’re not frying it in the appropriate temperature oil because you’re in a big mass market restaurant so most onion rings you get you get this raw sweaty onion just pulling out of this half crescent moon shape after you bite into it and they’re not good and so for me french fries they are the safer populist choice i think french fries i mean they’re they’ve dominated the entire world for a reason i’m not saying that the popular opinion is the only correct opinion okay but i am saying that it can give you a good indication of what things are and aren’t good do you think french fries are idiot proof is that what you’re trying to say i do believe that french fries are idiot proof i’ve had bad french fries but yeah the fact that most places are getting their french fries frozen in a bag of factories same with onion rings honestly that is true yeah but what okay if you go frozen bag of fries or a frozen bag of onion rings frozen bag of onion rings because they did all the they did all the tough stuff for you but you said onion rings are made with like care and love yeah you think that you think these are the machines yeah are loving on these onion rings no jeans can feel love they’re going to at least in the next 17 years i’ll say you’re just trying to hedge right now because you know that they’re listening we have like a microphone and a laptop and like a big sound box in front of us one of these is going to become sentient in the next decade and try and kill us yeah a hundred percent you know what i saw the other day i saw a postmates uh uh machine going to pick up a food from a restaurant what yeah i saw one it was crazy it was a little it was a little cart it looked like wall-e and it was like beep beep beep beep beep beep are you serious is it like the robot from was it rocky three i feel like ryan would know this it’s the robot from wally pretty much it had two eyes it was crazy in one of the rockies rocky has a robot oh i don’t know in his home because that was a big trope in like 80s and early 90s movies where they’re like yo in the very near future it is rocky 4 you’re right you’re right because that dichotomy of ivan drago like was that rocky for that’s my favorite yeah it was like rocky’s gotten soft now he has a robot butler oh i see the movie that leads into his training montage i forgot that part wow that is my favorite rocky movie i you know the training montage is my favorite when he’s like in the serbian like forest like ploughing the kgb agents like watching and like driving around he’s like running through trying to lose him rocky iv is truly one of the greatest sportsmans of all time i agree and i don’t care about sports but i love he that’s a fantastic movie um but yeah i saw a little robot and he just put food in the thing and then everyone was like fascinated everyone was like taking videos and stuff and they’re like the future is now and i’m like yeah he’s gonna feel love in like three weeks but there was a guy following him to make sure that he didn’t run over any trees but he ran over a tree anyways no the guy following him had a gun in case the robot went rogue and tried to kill people that’s what happened that’s actually a good yeah he needs like an emp device i’ve seen the matrix revolution device device an emp device an electromagnetic pulse that you stick into any machine and it’ll immediately shut down i think it’s only in movies i i tried googling this once they use it in fast and the furious too when um when paul walker is trying to like drive away and there’s like a police helicopter and shoots an emp into the car and it shuts down he’s like you got the mainframe okay yeah anyways so the point about french fries they’re not idiot proof okay no but i think they i think the average french fry to me trumps the average onion ring and that is important when you’re making decisions just from a utilitarian stance of like what is going to bring me the most pleasure when i say these words that’s not to say there aren’t outliers and i don’t like hate hate onion rings i’m happy to eat anything fried and dipped in sauce sure i love onions i just like the flavor i think the flavor of onions is more dynamic and more versatile than the flavor of a potato i’d agree with that but to me french fries aren’t about the actual flavor of the potato there’s actually a writer named john birdsall who i am a huge fan of and he wrote this entire kind of treatise on what on what shape of french fries is the best and my personal taste i believe the exact middle ground between a shoe string and a steak fry is the best that way you can get like a nice wendy’s fry is the perfect shape to me like it’s sturdy enough to stand up to dips it’s just thick enough to still have some of that silky smooth potato pulp sure in the middle but also crispy enough on the outside to get you that like dichotomous texture that’s what i believe i do think okay sorry i was i was explaining i’m sorry i always interrupted you but john birdsall he wrote this whole thing about shoestring fries and how potatoes are a food of austerity right about how like potatoes are you look at the irish potato famine right it’s like the only food that you know the irish were basically allowed to keep not all of their actual cash crops like a potato is this very bland food that should remind you of hard tough times and a french fry is an escapist route out of that to try and add so much fat and oil and texture and salt and sauce that you forget you’re even eating a potato and i think there’s something beautiful about that it is a blank canvas on which to apply your entire hopes and dreams and aspirations nicole that is why i love french fries they’re a food of promise i don’t think it’s that deep you know you like you these soliloquies are tiresome for me great use of soliloquy thank you josh has been complimenting my use of uses of words you said eponymous the other day i love that one did you forget i was an english major before all of this we 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onion with the beef that’s fine i agree that onion rings should be an ingredient i still think that maybe like the frazzled onions or the onion petals or chips would be better than rings themselves we’re not putting fried onions as an ingredient on trial here we are putting the onion ring as a standalone dish on trial but josh you can wear onion rings like bangles okay that’s that’s okay that’s fine that’s just a good time to imagine just like you can just put it on and then just go yeah well i would wear i would put onion rings on my fingers like they were big rings yeah yeah like you were pimped out like i was a pimp daddy i was doing like pimp daddy onion ring fries fries you can shove it between your knuckles like your wolverine so both are interactive foods yeah that’s a wash but what can you do with uh fried zucchini nuggets some garlic junior nothing nothing nothing throw them in the garbage in the garbage dried zucchini nuggets sound like garbage have you ever had the fried zucchini nuggets from cross jr have you ever fried zucchini nuggets like in general like i’ve had fried i’ve had zucchini fries they’re good i like i like a good zucchini fries it’s like mushy you know what actually my favorite burger side dish is los angeles i don’t think you’re gonna get it unless we’ve talked about it before i don’t think i don’t think we’re gonna get it but let me guess it’s a it’s it can be anything yeah it can be anything i guess what are you gonna say what is this leading up to i don’t know there’s like so much pressure your favorite is this for a side it’s from a restaurant in l.a it is a side that comes with a burger i don’t know i don’t think you’re gonna get it okay hold on let me guess uh uh uh is it is it is it beer battered uh is it pretzel bites no but i do like the idea of just eating more bread along with your bread sandwich no actually at uh belcampo fast burger which i mean we’re both huge burgers but they started their whole like fast food burger outlet to try and compete with like shake shack before shake shack was in l.a yeah and they make one of the best fast food style hamburgers i’ve ever had they use dry aged steak trimmings and they’re only like five six dollar hamburgers so good but these really quality product and one of their sides that they have they have fries they have sweet potato fries but they just have like deep-fried broccolini they say broccolini and just drop it in the fryer and then they just like pull it out and just dress it in some sort of quick lemon vinaigrette and to me it’s the perfect side because like i love fries we’ve talked about the idea of you know cold ketchup on hot fried juxtaposed against a burger and how that is one of the most sublime food experiences absolutely you can have agree with that you get especially a burger that has like pickles and produce and sauce and all this and then the fries almost like this palette cleanser afterwards but i think onion rings could maybe fall in that same category somewhat plain and starchy i don’t think they’re plain i would not use a plain to describe an onion ring what flavors are you getting other than plain you just get onions there’s already onions onion isn’t plain no onions as close to plain mmm no i’m gonna shoot myself literally an aromatic for a reason so aromatic that’s right yo have you ever had a potato ring no but that would be a great meeting of the minds that’d be a great meaning in the minds they they have what is they had him at this i think i am at disneyland when i was a kid it’s just the same thing they take a potato and then i think it’s probably done in a factory where it’s like piped into a circle but they take a potato and they like pipe it into a circle and then they freeze it and they batter it and fry it let’s get fried potato rings i would much rather have potato rings with a little bit of onion why don’t you always make me laugh when you do that you always make me laugh so hard when you do the sling play every time you do that there is one person in the common serious sling blade and no one else but every time i see potato i just got got any biscuits oh we got french fries and fried fragmentator got any mustard someone some fan drew a portrait of lincoln did i show this to you it looked exactly like you have to show it to trevor oh my god i’m sweating um all i have to say is that french fries are just basic i think a good onion ring trumps a good fry any day what is even the definition of a good fry there’s just so much there’s a definition okay apparently for you it’s halfway between a steak and a shoestring right so there are some i think one every fry is different and every fry has its own utility i respect people who like shoestring fries i’m not the biggest fan father’s office they do shoestring fries it’s i to me it’s never been my favorite thing i love a good i mean arby’s curly fries to me are fantastic okay i really like earlier right curly fries but we’re not telling you he’s like shapes he loves like shapes we like different shapes shapes we’ve talked about this you love the crinkle cut carrots that come in thai curries and i hate them no i do i like it’s because they use a special knife that has a crinkle cut edge on it it’s important to me the little the little bit of effort that goes into things i really notice and i really appreciate because i’m a big fan of the little things because i think they matter a lot so whenever i see someone going the extra mile it makes me feel like they understand me so the crinkle cut carrots make me feel understood man leave me alone that’s interesting that okay i i believe that there are two different types of people people who go to restaurants and eat food because they want to feel important and taken care of and people who go to restaurants and eat food because they want to feel like they’re in service of a greater art form and i think this can even it i’m serious i’m hold on hold on hold on i’m dead serious like i think um it’s typically in an older generation especially they get madder at servers who don’t like refill their water faster because they’re like you’re here to serve me whereas i’m the opposite i grew up like when i started going to you know restaurants in la like with my older brother when i was like 19 20 years old you know having like a fake id and we couldn’t really afford it we still did it because it was all cool we saw these places on food network yeah right like you’d sit in these uncomfortable long wooden shared tables just rubbing elbows next to people next to you know other people that were eating strangers and like your server would always be like some hot would-be actor who like didn’t care about your experience yeah and to me like i always really liked that and so i think you like the idea of someone like going the extra mile to make you feel important and wanted and character absolutely onion rings i’ve always definitely fill into that category i agree someone took all these extra steps where i’m just like i want the best tasting potato to offset the best tasting burger that i can possibly have like i want the utility of the potato whereas you you know you want the extra frills and they are important and i agree yeah they’re important to me and i think to this day i would rather if i was presented one onion ring and one french fry i would eat an onion ring if the both well how big is the onion ring because i want to know how much food i’m getting you know that for every onion ring it’s equal to seven french fries it’s just a good that’s a good conversion if you’re eating one of things i would also go for the onion rings i’m probably hungry and it’s probably just bigger than the one single french fry so i agree with the one to one comparison yeah so okay what if it’s a one onion ring and seven french fries i’m going seven french fries and i’m pinching them together like a claw you know the way i do it swiping them in ketchup i’m actually going to use it as a spoon yeah yeah i know pick up as much ketchup as possible yeah put in my face but do you think the the crunch of an onion ring is like nothing else for me honestly it’s like anything else it’s like anything else that’s covered in that batter it could be no anything for a vegetable like it’s a round it’s a circular there’s a hole in the middle and you can use it as a monocle [Music] [Laughter] interactive like well you can use onion rings as a little carnival game where you throw the rings around the bottles yeah are you you never did that like okay so me and my friends nicole you and i just want different things out of life so when we were going to johnny rockets we were ruckus like we were we were bad kids and like we would just like get onion rings like like three like baskets of them and like one of us would hold our finger like this and we’re gonna try to put the onion ring on the finger like whoever got the most like didn’t have to pay i can’t argue with that i don’t have friends i never had that experience i mean fries alone at carl’s jr onion rings hold a really special face in my heart because i love french fries don’t get me wrong they’re delicious i would eat a french fry right now but onion rings are special and i appreciate the loving care that goes into an onion ring so i think me and you disagree you know who i blame for my dislike of onion rings mainstream media screw the media screw the msm no news i have had two very formative and disappointing onion ring experiences okay we’re thanks to the food network tell us so i think you and i have talked about this idea before on here that um in the instagram ruining food episode when we were talking about the idea that growing up when you saw food on the food network or represented on tv a buzzfeed show whatever you were like that must be the best food ever because otherwise why would it be on the tv sure yeah and there was a place called fat cats that was on i think morro bay somewhere along the central coast and i used to like me and my dad used to do road trips up there because it’s like a really cheap vacation just hop in the car and drive up four hours and this place had the biggest onion rings on the central coast wow what a claim to make they managed to get the biggest onions on the entire central coast that’s right that’s including uh templeton and bulton and solvang and paso roblas and uh arroyo grande no fat cats had the biggest anyways we went there and they were just these giant soggy like raw onion rings and i was so disappointed so that was my first taste of dishes how old were you i was probably 12 years old at that time and then later six years later when i was 18 akasha in culver city okay i’ve had their onion rings there they’re they’re fine onion rings they’re okay and akash is like a good restaurant nakashi richmond is a great chef but anyways uh it was on the best thing i ever ate on food network oh oh really and so i saw that and i was like well if you’re a professional chef and this is the best thing you’ve ever ate this must be a transcendentally good onion ring maybe i don’t understand onion rings and this can make me and i went there and i got it and i was like yep that’s a normal onion ring it’s not normal it’s a little bit it’s really cold right yeah but it’s you know it’s it’s a perfectly fine onion ring and that’s all it’s supposed to be i’d rather have a johnny rock it’s onion right then yeah man onion rings it is don’t you come in here with your big fancy words uh i had two onion ring experiences that really taint it so we’re always coming into these arguments with our own biases josh do you know how many gross french fries i’ve had in my life so many from where what’s the grocery store every year yeah gross soggy sad french fries like from from drive-throughs god disgusting uh freaking i don’t know restaurants in my own house my mom my mom tries to make french fries big mistake my mom does not know how to fry a french fry for me like it’s like you know when you’re like seven and you’re like mom made french fries and she puts like turmeric in them like to make them yellow i think you and i had different childhoods sorry but it’s just it’s just fred i’ve had a lot of crappy french fry experiences too like you’re not alone in this you know i’ve had bad experiences too life isn’t all sunshines and rainbows for nicole handy’s audit i actually do have a very distinct memory of my mom trying to fry french fries and it went like really horribly wrong and she was not a cook like she she couldn’t no my mom was not a cook and she just filled a pot with oil and tried slicing potatoes straight in there and the oil bubbled over oh and then everyone like freaked out and then we ate like hamburger helper for dinner so i like i get that like french fries are a pain point for many people yeah it’s frying is scary for people yeah but you can always oven bake a fries i guess i would probably recommend if someone were to cook french fries or onion rings from scratch at home air fryer well that that but i would say like which one would you recommend people cook at home like what’s easier to do you know the answer it’s onion rings right onion rings are easier than french fries i think to make them good oh because you want people double frying yeah if you if someone were to just say like i’m gonna make french fries i mean i i believe in the single fry french fry method me too you know that yields a very good french fry yeah i did it maybe i just deep fry so much that i think it’s easy like onion rings are complex we just i talked about that topic if you do a wet batter it is but if you do like a panko like a well whatever a wet dry wet i think people think onion rings are intimidating which is why why they’ll get them at restaurants that makes sense but french fries they’ll do at home because it’s just a potato you see what i’m saying yeah you’re just too much of a chef you need to like dial it back a little bit yeah i’ve like lost touch with my roots you need to be every man i need to go back to that like seven-year-old me yeah whoever he is where yeah i i ate him right now and oh i was talking about the best french fry experience oh your best friend the best french fry experience that i’ve ever had like there are so many different levels of french fries and i love fast food french fries except in and out they in and out fries are fine people die i love you gotta get them uh well done everyone says so in and out frizers like you gotta get them well done you gotta get them fry like cristine medrano of the mythical family uh-huh she we went to in-n-out to shoot uh the fancy fast food episode and she was like hyping up the idea of fry light she was like in and out fries they’re never gonna be crispy even if you get them well done they’re just burnt she’s like i like to just go fry light and then it’s just like eating a warm bowl of soft potatoes and i was like you know what i respect the logic sure and then she got it and there was like you know when you fry a potato and they at least get some sort of skin on it you know it’s not just a wet potato yeah this didn’t even it was not even fried long enough to get that this is straight up a bowl of just like oil covered barely fried potatoes and then she got it animal style too so there’s just mayonnaise on these wet oil potatoes i just gotcha it was one of the most disgusting things that sounds cool i guess that’s point onion ring yeah well i’ve had some some undercooked onion rings i’ve had some where the batter isn’t set and it’s just like nasty i’ve had that too they okay so i think we’ve learned that french fries can suck onion rings can suck people are more likely to make french fries at home but people think onion rings are fancy and the average french fry i still believe is better than the average onion ring but the best onion ring is likely better than the best french fry because there’s more care and technique that goes into it there’s a lot of factors here yeah this is quite a complex debate we’re having stressed out i still i still believe that we have to trust in the power of democracy what about democracy and i’m not talking about this farcical representative democracy that turns into like oligarchy fascism okay i’m talking about true democracy but it’s true like one person one vote more people would vote french fries i think that gives it an edge i’m not trying to give into tierney the majority so just because it’s pop just because the population thinks that it’s great that means that it’s great yeah that have you heard of communism have you heard of communists and who grew potatoes russia i agree i do like onion rings i am very curious to me i want to see like the best chef in the world i was going to say jiro but he’s pretty devoted to sushi i was going to say joel robuchon but he passed man i’m going to get joel robichaun to make the best potato the best french fry versus the best onion ring maybe we can ask somebody maybe we can ask gordon ramsay so my favorite franchise ever had her at the bellwether tattoo i’ve never been it’s the dude who like he was the actual guy cooking the father’s office burger the most famous the burger that launched a burger revolution in the 2000s he was the one actually cooking them use the cdc and then he left to start his own place called the bellwether where he does a patty melt that’s like a version of the father’s office burger and it is dank but he has these 12 french fries this is new josh this is new i have a media job and i live in my own apartment in l.a and i’m gonna go spend twelve dollars on french fries and another 14 on a cocktail with those french fries anyways they are the most transcendentally good french fries i’ve ever had it’s like a three-day process you know it’s like cooking and freezing and alkaline solution and brining and all this stuff but anyways it is unbelievable it is a shattering crunch on the outside and then the inside is almost like a palm puree oh my god and he serves it with like a house made ranch and fresno chili hot sauce oh and so to me i’ve never had that onion ring version of that experience you know of that absolute transcendency i don’t think i have either that’s crazy man nicole i want to create that experience for you that’s crazy right april what we need to freaking palm puree in a shattering crust of potatoes the french mind blown yeah i can’t even i don’t think i’ve ever had a food experience with either a potato french fried potato or a what a french fries [Laughter] gotta go french fried protein double called a sling blade some fool called a kylo blade how do you do the rasp oh i just watched sling blade like nine times it’s a great movie so i can’t do it so i’m kind of just laying right there [Music] with it killed them so what we’re saying is everyone’s affected by their own experience what i’m trying to say is that josh just made a really really interesting point in which i’ve only had mid-tier onion rings and those are delicious to me but if i were to have the bellwether french fry i might change my tune and i think we all might if i hadn’t had so many disappointing unique experiences i think there’s a there’s a world in which we can respect and enjoy both i think there is some sort of objectivity to saying that french fries is better that is my personal opinion i will die with that opinion because i refuse to change for anyone even to my own detriment i don’t know i guess i guess i just gotta eat the bell weather fries and then eat at johnny rockets let’s go restaurants are open right we can get it together we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitter nicole are you texting sorry i was on twitter it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] sorry it was about a page six article on strawberry dresses i i saw that why is this dress so popular in quarantine i never could not did you get an answer uh no because you interrupted me while i was scrolling i’m sorry we have a podcast i think that’s a good sign that we’ve gotten comfortable enough podcasting because the first time we tried to record this uh i went immediately in the npr voice that was the worst the thing about i literally picked up on pizza is that we are all just pineapples i literally looked at you and i was like are you done dude it was so embarrassing hey we’re here now we’re here now i’m not wearing shoes i got ramen all over my pants we’re comfortable in our own invite yeah i’m comfortable all right first up we got at spencer is nice all right sorry i’m pre-judging this before i read it because i take issue lowry’s season salt is overused and not that great i don’t know i think it’s kind of the perfect i would almost recommend almost because i don’t know if i can do this ethically to get rid of all your salt and pepper and only use lowry’s i did that for months of my life and i lived a full happy productive and delicious life i love larry season salt i do too but i don’t think it’s overused i don’t think it is either yeah i think it’s actually under utilized and it’s pretty great i agree with that who’s over using lowry’s i don’t know i don’t know if you can override that’s whack renegade muffin blueberry and horseradish is a good combo and i am valid for putting horseradish on a blueberry bagel that’s disgusting right no renegade muffin you’re valid just for existing no no you gotta make a you gotta make a blueberry relish with horseradish you’re cogito ergo assuming you are a valid person don’t listen to nicole no no telling you what you have to do i don’t like you have to enjoy your own dang food horseradish on a blueberry bagel you know what it sounds like when you’re kidding me we’ve done a couple episodes like this but when watson the computer that beat ken jennings in jeopardy when they were like hey watson can is a chef now watson can combine different flavor chemical compounds to show you what would be good together and watson just be like uh uh scallops and chocolate it’d be like gross uh blueberries and horseradish you’re like gross no no you don’t understand it has the same phenylalanine yeah and it’s like no that tastes like butthole that’s that’s that book it’s it’s inspired by the food matrix the book yeah yeah i don’t know if i believe blueberries and horseradish i don’t know if i’ve had horseradish a lot of sweet things but i do enjoy horseradish i do enjoy blueberries and i do enjoy that you are a valid person renegade moving no all right at the tim bill grilled cheese and jelly sandwiches are absolute fire any combination of cheese and jelly i can almost guarantee success strawberry preserves in provolone havarti and marmalade jalapeno jelly and blue f yeah always on dave’s killer bread i agree with all of this oh my god except maybe for dave’s killer bread i don’t know how i feel about dave’s killer bread one grilled cheese and jelly sandwiches yeah this is amazing it’s like a paired down version of a monte cristo amazing which is fantastic sweet savory good combo in this context agreed dave’s killer bread i have a problem with it i like that it’s healthy and it’s got seeds and nuts and all that and i like that someone is trying to make a really good like sandwich bread loaf you know like a wonder bread style sandwich bread but to me there’s something about the crumb of dave’s killer bread that when you squish it it don’t come back it doesn’t need to come back well i want it to come back if i’m pressing a grilled cheese especially and dave’s killer bread is just gonna flatten into a pancake and the gluten structure ain’t gonna bloom it’s it’s a really wet loaf of bread so i go orowheat double fiber because i eat a lot of animal meat and i need the fiber to help mapoos i’m an oral wheat household i used to be an ezekiel household but i’m an oral wheat household or a we what kind of oreo uh uh just the brown ones what’s the brown brown one yeah the costco or the brown one the brown one yeah you gotta buy two sacks of it i buy one i’d go ora wheat as opposed to dave’s killer bread but i do respect this this is a wonderful opinion thank you for going through the trouble of telling us what cheeses match with what sort of jelly they’re all good the havarti and marmalade is like right up my alley so yeah i was thinking about jalapeno jelly and blues i would okay let’s think about one that we would probably enjoy now um okay strawberry and white american okay mine would be one would be raspberry preserves and gouda not smoked gouda just regular smoked gouda is overused it is such an aggressive profile just regular it makes everything taste like bacon it kind of tastes metallic to me yeah manchego and twins oh twins oh give me that membrillo okay um happy trees 42. people who choose ranch instead of blue cheese especially with wings should be jailed blue cheese is always superior except maybe dipping sliced vegetables okay blue cheese is the dankness and i prefer my chicken wings exclusively with blue cheese with a ranch has its place sometimes somewhere like i had a peruvian steak sandwich and i put ranch in it and it was good and like sometimes i’ll put a wrench in my barbecue chicken salads of the chicken for avocado and i they’re different sauces and they’re used for different things and i don’t feel like they’re interchangeable what’s the difference between ranch and blue cheese it’s just one has blue cheese and the other has like herbs in place of it right can you accurately say that that is the only difference i would say so yeah that’s the only thing especially if you’re eating like the store-bought stuff it’s all the same base of just like mayonnaise and buttermilk and whatever so yeah no i uh lock me up lock me up put put me in the handcuffs maybe i’ll even like it maybe i’ll find a part of me that has not been unlocked yet but i think that ranch and buffalo wings go better than blue cheese and buffalo wings no i don’t need the cheese i don’t need the cheese to be obstructing the flavor of delicious hot sauce i want the herbs to offset it give me a little bright punch on it it’s not obstructive it enhances the buffalo flavor whatever we’re going to talk about something get out of here yeah oh yeah we’re going to do rand oh yep yep ranch blue cheese is coming at some point all right at heather wassing the best condiment for hot dogs is peanut butter skimp i’m sick your peanut butter opinion stop being weird be normal this is weird uh i’d try it i don’t know no i think they’d be pretty terrible that’s bad i try and have been i have an open mind about all these food combos there’s something about like peanut butter gumming up the roof of your mouth while you’re eating hot dog meat that makes me a little ill that like gave me a crank in my life if it was like a thin peanut sauce but it yeah that texture if it was like a peanut sauce with a little bit of like soy and miranda or maybe but like just straight peanut butter i think people need to use peanut butter more as an ingredient than they do like okay so stan’s donuts r.i.p in westwood one of the best shops right on the corner i know no primos is taking over and primos is also very good west la heritage but anyway stans used to have a lot of donuts that were like filled with peanut butter oh and they’re all like pretty good like i love peanut butter with sweet things i love fried dough but my problem is if they would have just taken that peanut butter and just like whisked it with like equal parts pastry cream that they would already put in their other donuts just make like a peanut butter cream filled donut instead of just having this gummy peanut butter in there that’s what i want and not enough people think today were they hot the owners of stands no the it’s an old man that’s the donuts josh you’re they weren’t hot no they were always sitting in the pastry case since 4am and i don’t think they made a second batch throughout the day oh no no no but they were open 24 hours they’d go like three in the morning coming home from the bars and just get like a big banana peanut butter chocolate chip donut yum that sounds really good though okay ash underscore with the sass hashtag hot take foods should not be mixed onto the fork and should be eaten separately i can’t even eat a bacon cheeseburger because the bacon is its own food and thus i order it on the side eat the bacon and subsequently eat the burger hashtag i’m not weird um i feel like you just might have a minor case of ocd and that’s okay you just need to recognize it and try to fight through it neither of us are doctors no i just it’s just my my uh my thoughts no no i i have seen that in a lot of people who in it it can range from like moderate to severe to you know mild but like people with uh anxiety disorder general general anxiety disorder generally yeah a lot of people tend to have you know food mixing issues and i like totally respect that you know no one should eat things that like doesn’t bring them of course um that said i firmly disagree with this i want to mash all my food into a burrito bowl even if it is nowhere burrito related just make me a casserole and let me slap it in my face though i would say i do believe that not all cheeseburgers need bacon and i do think that people over bacon foods i think we are past that trend totally thank god bro for that thank god for that drink bacon and ugh so much bacon yeah that got it that got out of here and i was someone who absolutely perpetrated that trend i mean and still do i think we haven’t done that many crazy bacon things i don’t think we’ve done any bacon things we should probably probably do more bacon things thanks okay all right at melody2089 my hashtag opinion casserole is that family guy they’ve tagged family guy their idea to put butter on a pop-tart is actually freaking good i haven’t seen this episode i haven’t seen either which is because i’ve seen a lot of fans yeah me too that said buttering up a pop-tart toasting a pop-tart and some like god especially brown butter in a pan weird that sounds great to me yeah it sounds good in theory but i feel like after i would eat it i would need to take a nap and the chances of me eating a pop-tart any time other than the morning is slim you know what i’m talking about yeah i feel that this is like a nap i almost never eat pop tarts before like 6 p.m like i’m a night pop tardy i’m a night oh really yeah yeah cause i’m a morning tart for me it’s when you’re a morning time i’m a nighttart i think one of the advantages that toaster strudels have over pop-tarts you know the difference between like live wood and dead wood absolutely not what like you can’t i don’t know i i did cub scouts for like once am i a carpenter is that a is that like a term live wood and dead wood ish like live wood you can’t start a fire with because there’s still moisture oyster in it and then like dead wood is what you want yeah okay i think your show with timothy all fondant he’s hot um anyways this is going somewhere this is going somewhere i feel like pop tarts are the dead wood of pastry dough whereas toasted strudels are live wood there’s no moisture in them there’s no life to it but it’s more useful to be dead wood agreed but when you don’t want to be when you want to liven it up a little bit toast some brown butter in a pan that’s what i believe that’s where i went to all this okay do you fam well anyways that’s the podcast uh thanks for stopping by we got new episodes of a hot dog as a sandwich every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and hendy zade with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pics of your 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