ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so we’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast [Music] it’s the battle of the chicken wing the line in the sand has been drawn it’s time to pick a side today we ask the question which is better drums or flats this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog [Music] welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendezada and today we are discussing whether drums or drumettes as they are technically named are better than flats or wingets as they are technically named nicole what do you think i’m a die-hard flats girl always have been always will be liking flats only is not a personality it is that’s what i’ll say no it’s my personality it’s like the person who views their starbucks order as a personality and they’re like i get a chai latte with three pumps of vanilla and then what you have to do is you ask them for a little splash of the hibiscus tea because then you get no no the everyone who has an opinion on drums versus flats seems to take flats and i do agree that they offer a much different experience they offer a different experience across the whole chicken than a drumette ever could sure which is why i lobby for the humble drumette i lobby for the humble dramat it is easier to eat i think it offers easier the dramat is easier to eat oh okay how do you how do you eat how do you eat how do you eat a flat i i hold it with two thingies and i go and then and then uh i i’m a bone sucker so like i like bite the top of the bone and i chew on it and then i suck out the the center of the bone my plate is clean like you cannot see one trace of chicken on my bones ever if you were a professional wrestler just be called the bone sucker yeah suck your bones my mom would be very proud of that my mom i used to watch my mom eat like chicken and she would just like gnaw on the bone and i was like you’re a monster but now i do the same thing because it’s good do you eat all the cartilage off the flat off the flat yes but i can’t off the drumette oh i think i know you’re talking about there’s the one little sticky muscular tissue the nub on the drumette that’s my favorite part of the drumette that’s your i can’t get through it that’s why it’s harder to eat for you you got to clamp down with your teeth like a vise and then you gotta rip it apart but i always do and it’s still it’s not enjoyable i can’t swallow that little nub i think to me there is an air of entitlement around and i am dead serious there’s an air of entitlement around the flats lovers okay because so many people now wing restaurants have caught on to this right where people seem to much prefer flats to drums and so they have started offering a surcharge for all flats if you try and order them yeah and there’s no reason that they offer they don’t have a reason to offer a surcharge for all drums because no one seems to want that right yeah there’s a lot of die-hard flat people and people like it’s the same part of the wing it’s on there you have them in the back while you’re charging me extra it’s like because then every a-hole would want that and then it’s cutting into their margins because then they’re serving people all drums without recognizing it and then they’re gonna get the negative reviews on yelp so no like i think when you order wings you engage in a social contract you enter into that you’re signing your name on the dotted line that you must respect and eat both equally but i have been pushed so far by the extremists on the all-flat side to really respect the drumette and all of its perfection i think you just always root for the underdog and this is what’s happening right it’s true you just love the underdog and you and you like to raise the underdog up to a higher frequency which i think is whack it sucks it’s less enjoyable i’ll still eat it like if i get you know go to buffalo wild wings and i get wings i’ll eat both of the wings but i prefer to always you know eat the flats and i’ll leave the drum for someone else you see what i’m saying we’ve talked about this a lot our kind of definitions of love right we’ve talked about love languages and all that but we’ve talked about our definitions of love and i mean you should elaborate on what you think that is because this is really beautiful to me when you explain to what the what our soul mate is yeah it’s so i’ve talked about this in multiple classes but with chicken wings it’s you should be with someone who’s a little bit different than you always because if i love flats and my partner loves drums then our plate will always be clean that’s true however i also believe that so much of love is sacrificial right don delillo called it the the burden of pleasure right to be to be able to sacrifice for your partner is the truest sort of pleasure that you can get in a relationship in my opinion no so someone no the sucker selfish i’m the opposite give me all the love so um i’m saying like the ability to tell if someone you know if i say don’t enjoy drums as much as my partner is enjoying flats i will happily take that drum as a gesture of supplication to tell you like when it comes down to something more serious in life i will be the one to take this burden so i don’t think it has to be this equal split of like one likes this thing so they don’t have to sacrifice for the other person to me it’s like that ability to sacrifice that you know putting the burden of pleasure on the other person then that is why i believe drumettes are better than flats whenever you’re dating someone do you ever give them the first and or the last bite of food i it’s so funny in in i always offer the last bite of food but it’s actually funny i’ve recently started got i hate that i’m gonna talk about this i’ve recently started counting my macros nicole has heard the word macro now eight million times in the kitchen in the last four days that’s true but it’s really funny because my girlfriend and i started doing it and she is a relatively petite person and i am a relatively large person and you know whenever i’ll cook dinner for her or we go out to a restaurant right it’s always we’re splitting the food equally sure and whatnot and all those offer the last bite and then we figured out what we really should be eating by the numbers and it’s just like oh you should literally be eating three times the amount that i am whoo that’s just literally me and julia what do you mean three times like i like i need three times the calories that julie knew roughly three times oh okay i got it i thought you needed three times more than what you were currently eating no no that’s crazy than her so i’m like so when we go to a restaurant i should literally be splitting this dish and then i should also of course be paying for it yeah yeah like you know we’re not the couple who like keeps a tab of you know who owes who never no no never no no but now i’m feeling like guilty because i’m like i’m a 210 pound human being who works out a lot like i’m i’m gonna be eating three quarters of this kabob like i should be paying for three quarters of it of course no it’s okay just pay for all of it that’s the nice thing to do yeah i try my what about whenever you guys eat wings together yeah so we have eaten wings a fair amount she and i are both i think maybe it’s just because we’re both very kind of sacrificial people like we like to be the person that sort of gives up that burden we will attack the drumettes first i know i said i’d like to i will agree that like flats are they’re almost like objectively better they are the quintessential wing-eating experience i agree but again like i said the wing is two parts technically three if you consider the tip wing tips or a whole other thing i love you’re not talking about wing tips talk about wing tips great for stock lovely that is non when you fry them yeah but no when you order a wing like there are two parts this is the economics of a chicken the economics of chicken wings are already so messed up i know we’ve talked about it before remember boneless versus yeah exactly like wings are now more expensive than chicken breast which is this crazy roll reversal so for me it’s like you you when you order wings you need to you know at least act like you are enjoying the drums like the drums are the stick to get to the carrot that is the flat and then the carrot is the thing that you just throw away at the end because i’ve never taken a single bite of carrot or celery while eating it not in the last like five i’ll do it every like five years just to reaffirm that like no i don’t like veggie sticks oh my gosh i love the veggies i don’t throw all the spices no my 32 ounces of diet coke cut through all the stuff oh no i i like to i like to have a carrot stick or celery sticky i love to have a nice soft roll and i dip the roll in ranch dressing like a sponge it’s a lovely sponge well they should just put that under wing baskets what are they doing with parchment paper they just need to lay it with bread agreed i have my favorite thing to do is i eat the wings and you’ve seen me eat right it’s like all the time to say eating like a pig would be a kind of understatement because pigs at least tend to chew right i eat like a it’s like a hoover back yeah like a sort of yeah like a a duck who is being gavaged you know which is the force feeding process for foie gras except i’m doing it willingly and i’m just shoving my face in there i get all covered in kinds of stuff you’ve seen my face it’s disgusting did you say gavage gabage bone sucker and gavon man those are wrestling you’re the best tag team oh my god break out a frying pan and whack the ref over the head while you like you know pin the other person uh that’d be great i don’t think i’d do well at wrestling i have inflexible shoulders and i’m scared of heights i wouldn’t do well at wrestling because i’m a pacifist and i’d be like oh anyways i love taking the roll and then just smearing it across my face to wipe up all the flavor oh my god i use the roll as a nap i use the bread as a napkin and then i eat the bread and then you get a lovely edible napkin and to me that is the true effort of food conservation people like josh you don’t recycle your cans ever i’m like no i’m conserving in other ways thank you yes uh i do recycle my cans with a persian food with persian food we always put a layer of bread underneath the kabob oh what’s the what’s the word for that it’s called noon zere ka baby nunzi de kabob which is red underneath the kabab and people call that it’s like a it’s like a term of endearment for like the younger sister so like if there’s an older sister and a younger sister she’s the bread under the the cat bob it’s like she’s the best part you get it okay whatever um i love chicken wings in particular i love mango habanero wings what about you mango hob so i i grew up i remember the chicken wing boom i remember when this happened it was crazy it was crazy and this is at the time when like chicken wings were cheaper because there simply wasn’t as big a demand right but i remember there was a wing stop on the walk home from my middle school and they had a 25 cent wing wednesday and i was a very large middle schooler per week 25 cents per wing that’s how cheap chicken wings were that’s the thing today this what are we talking about 2005 2006 maybe yeah you know and i’m this just 250 pound just just beast of a 13 year old and i’m like i can suck down me some wings and so i would literally stop at wing stop every wednesday and i would take my allowance and i would just buy as many wings as that like five dollar a week allowance okay let’s do this so you got five dollars five dollars 25 cents a wing four 20 you would get 20 wings right yeah that seems added up to me yeah yeah yeah yeah but i remember once there’s a reason we don’t have real jobs okay asking our parents why we’re not accountants but i remember one time i just went there and straight got 50 wings wow i remember i got their atomic wing stop atomic but i remember this is before wingstop had the mango habanero buffalo wild wings had mango habanero and then buffalo wild wings started exploding as a chain eating into wing stops business and then wingstop was like we got to get on the mango habanero game so wingstop copied buffalo wild wings mango habanero and i prefer wingstop to buffalo wild wings so i have this kind of like internal bias against mango because i’m like wingstop you’re better than that you had hawaiian flavor wings which was already spicy sugar sauce what was it just hawaiian punch reduced out no but i think i’ve made that i think we should make it red bull chicken wings itself oh that sounds delicious am i delicious i mean absolutely disgusting yeah yeah pretty good though the caffeine gets a little bitter when you cook with with red bull yeah but other than that it’s pretty tasty but no the single best wing in the world to me everyone from buffalo is gonna be mad people from buffalo are mad people from any small city that have a food that they have get mad about literally anything uh the lehigh valley cheese steak eating community sure got mad the rochester uh garbage plate eating community they sure got mad everyone from buffalo anytime we mention ranch dressings like i’m from buffalo and we only eat it with blue cheese i will say the only people the only people yeah okay yeah yeah real high society they’re buffalo uh the only people that i’m just getting bills mafia for life i love watching y’all smash tables uh the only people to me that have been very gracious about their like local food are mini minneapolis ins minneapolites minneapolites minneapolis we’ll call them minneapolites about the juicy lucy they’re just like that looks pretty good i’d eat that gosh i make a sick juicy lucy yeah i think we both make some sick juices i’ve made some sick juices i make some sick squirting sally’s we got bone sucker and gavage making juicy loosies and squirting sally’s over here um but how can i convince you to say that flats are the better wing i i don’t know if there’s a way for me to say that flats are the better part of the wing because i feel like i’m so entrenched morally okay to me this is a moral issue this is about wing economics to me and also i think we are maybe painting a false dichotomy here but this is a classic debate right like drums are flat so many different brands use that to to drum up engagement on social media i think it’s a false dichotomy because the wing is not doesn’t need to be separated in two parts the wing is the wing really you wouldn’t be okay just getting a oh more than okay with getting a whole wing i prefer getting the whole wing isn’t that difficult to eat though i’m glad they separated i mean no but i mean like the flat’s already difficult to eat you know like would you crack it open yes and eat it oh my god getting a holding so when we when we talk about the whole wing we’re talking about the drum and the flat they’re kind of connected at a 90 degree angle right and then you have an adjacent wing tip yes right and the tips are typically thrown off like when you’re ordering wings from buffalo wild wings etc the tips are typically just you know kind of lopped off and i’m sure go to nothing or they get like thrown into a processing plant to make gelatin or whatever um but no there are like plan check is a restaurant in l.a that to me they served some of the best wings i’d ever had they were kind of just like this sweet spicy sticky soy glaze on them but they were whole wings and they were fried in like potato starch korean style oh and to me there’s nothing more yeah uh no karaoke is japanese sorry you’re thinking of taekwondo but no i i mean wings are such um you know this experiential food right where it’s about getting the sauce on your face and sucking on the bones it’s a messy food and so for me taking that extra step to sort of just crack open this wing and then you get this little puff of steam it holds heat better when you fry it whole like that and then like the kind of cartilage isn’t just fried super hard so you get these kind of more supple notes right because you’re letting getting less surface area that’s fried so to me the whole wing is the way to go and i think that should be this debate versus believe in hole versus cut wings because there’s no reason that the drum and the flat should be separated in my opinion that’d be like if you just started like you know cracking a chicken thigh in half and then being like do you prefer left thigh or right thigh like when twix did the left twix or right twix thing i think that i like them split in halfsies because i can eat them quicker and faster and have a plate full of bones to show my enemies what i can do the bone sucker makes me bum sucker strikes again she makes hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole head over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability did you know josh that according to joey chestnut he prefers two bone wings they have less cartilage and can get the meat off easier did you know what’s a two bone wing i don’t know that’s what it says in the nose it’s probably a flat oh yeah chicken wing eating competition is my favorite yeah because there’s there’s a lot so i’m one i’m a big fan of the ifoc that’s the international federation of competitive eating i don’t like that i feel they ousted takara kobayashi and they kind of blackballed him from getting back into the league but that’s neither here nor there i think competitive eating is absolutely a sport and i’m a huge fan but the chicken wing eating competition is one of the most technical to me because like a hot dog you got the whole hot dog you gotta eat the whole thing but with the wing eating competition right you’re not eating the bones but what they do is they give you this giant pile of chicken wings and you just eat as much as you can and then you throw them the bones onto a pile and then they weigh the difference so to me there’s a lot more oral dexterity we got the bone sucker and the oral but there’s like this oral dexterity component to it of how fast can you like rip the meat off and so joey chestnut preferring two wings like that’s from a sports perspective you know it’s like whenever whenever like an athlete is like i prefer sweet potatoes and normal potatoes like yeah it’s cause some trainer told you to do that and said they were healthier no i just i just uh i just think that chicken wings are the best and i just want to eat chicken wings right now honestly this this whole podcast is about this podcast is about me being hungry and talking about what we’re going to order for lunch if they served ryan says if they serve whole wings are they obligated to state so on the menu yes no yes absolutely not how okay so i’m going to okay i’m going to dinner with the girls okay me and five of the girls we’re gonna get chicken wings so it’s six of us and then they bring out a plate of wings and it’s four wings that’s not good so they say four wings on the menu right no they never specify that i don’t know number well i think you should always specify how many how many items come with the thing the restaurants i go to sometimes don’t this is a i have i have though totally been at a place where i’m eating with like four people and there’s one thing i really hate about restaurants is that the term small plates share plates and family style all mean the same thing family style is larger than small plates not some places they’ll just be like we we do all family style here at this restaurant great that means like that yeah that reminds me of like buca beppo where you go and you just get a giant vat of pasta that’s family style i love phuket me and my nephew [Music] mufu super [Laughter] his name was the bumafu i’m just imagining samuel jackson i went to a restaurant once and i was like i ordered the cod fritters right and i was like hey is this gonna be enough for four people and they’re like oh yeah and it comes out and it’s just three individual balls of cod fritters oh my gosh i just kind of called the waiter over i was like hey so we asked you know he said it would be enough for four people there’s clearly three balls and they’re like oh i thought at least one person wouldn’t want one yeah and i was like what about our how did you psychoanalyze us to decide this like i’m not mad you could just be honest and say it comes with three but you seem to imply uh so i feel you on the wings creating a numbers differential however we must play the long game in eliminating this false wing dichotomy of drums versus flats by solely serving whole wins also less labor costs the name of our collective wrestling troop ball swings i call it the economy that sounds like a great like uh like garage rock crust punk band fall swing dichotomy i would listen oh my god that ruined me i’m sorry i mean all i can say is that the the flat is is better than the drum in almost every single way but we can both agree that they’re delicious pieces of chicken can we agree i think i think there’s something to be said so the enemy right now and it’s not the enemy i’ve said that i like them but i you know it’s hard to really get the same experience as eating a wing or boneless wings right i do think that they offer a completely uh chanizel uh i do think that they offer a unique you know intermediary between popcorn chicken and tenders and they should be allowed to be called boneless wings but i think people who want the wing eating experience are shorting themselves i understand convenience and all that you just knock them back they’re fun you know while watching the game and all that if you really want to concentrate on whatever’s playing but to me i think the drum almost offers this like sort of intermediary between the difficulty of eating a flat because you got to twist the bones you got to break them off you got to suck it down the wing is like it’s familiar because it’s a drummy right it’s a little drummy it’s like a drumstick you’ve eaten a drumstick from the kfc i hate you know if you’re trying to wean yourself off this is like five drumsticks why do you despise drumsticks i will never eat a drumstick if it’s offered to me never i’m a thigh never i never eat drums what happened what did what did what bone did you suck that made drumsticks off the table don’t like drumsticks i but you know what i always do i steal the little oyster in the back in a little back part what’s on the back of of the drumstick or on there’s like a part in the drumstick where like there’s like a little hangy bit i’m like i take that part off when i eat it like i don’t like just the thought of like going through all of the bone work to get to the meat for a drumstick isn’t worth it to me so i’m a chicken breast and a chicken thigh girl you know i i have a solution all this chicken wings shouldn’t eat them at all i have found a better a better part of the chicken than the wing that offers you the same experience what i do you take a whole chicken thigh skin on and everything and then you just cleave it cleanly in half okay and so it becomes especially if it’s a kind of more petite bird you get this just like it’s got the handles if you imagine you know the anatomy of a chicken thigh it’s got the bone handles right and if you cut it like clean across that sort of femur bone there uh-huh then you kind of get these perfect handles and the perfect amount of meat that’s hanging off the bone but it comes off very cleanly also the best meat on the bird easily the thigh right we can agree on that die always oh my god chicken thighs are unbelievable it’s like literally maybe my favorite meat mitt romney’s favorite meat is hot dog my favorite meat is chicken thigh yeah do you ever hear that quote i think so they’re like mitt romney what’s your favorite meat it’s very american answer yeah it was like someone trained in an ai machine learning exactly like americans eat hot dogs my favorite meat is hot dog uh mitt romney is a robot mitt romney is a robot that’s something the cleveland half chicken thigh fried like a buffalo wing in sauced that’s that’s the real answer here to the most pleasant wing-esque piece of chicken to eat i firmly believe that i think any piece of chicken slathered in buttery uh buffalo sauce is a good piece of chicken buffalo sauce can sure save a lot oh i love buffalo sauce it can sure save i love buffalo it’s my favorite dipping sauce yeah okay so we we recently made um buffalo ostrich wings oh phenomenal phenomenal because it the ostrich we braised the ostrich wings and then we battered it and then we fried it and doused it in buffalo sauce but ostrich is such like a red meat that literally looked like beef it was gorgeous and the wings had all this connective tissue that one braids down it kind of ate like a fried buffaloed pot roast in a while it was truly and i’m this is a no cap situation it was one of the most delicious things you’ve ever made and we’ve made a lot of delicious things but that ostrich wing was insane i still think about it to this day it’s so literally buffalo it’s like a pot roast attached to a bone that you just gnaw and it’s covered in this crispy gorgeous coating and this lemon pepper ah it makes me feel good that made me think that made me feel good what what meats can’t be buffaloed right do you think people actually enjoy chicken wings as much as they just enjoy like fried meat covered in sauce because they enjoy right it’s just fried meat covered in sauce right i think so it’s like i have this huge theory about like this sort of asian fusion taco movement that we’re seeing across america and we have been since like 2008 and shout out to roy choi who his food is objectively absolutely delicious so great very creative inventive talented dude is a hell of a cook dude understands the culture of la and all that but after roy choi came this deluge of people just selling you know these quote unquote fusion tacos and i remember you may have been there in westwood uh tommy taco sure the one next to fat cells the one right next fat cells yeah yeah tommy taco they i remember they had a korean barbecue taco oh is it good no no this is what i’m getting at so tom and tommy taco’s lovely their dream fries are fantastic i think it’s theirs that’s probably not but anyways their korean taco is literally their carne asada taco with this like goopy teriyaki sauce on it and then cabbage and that was it and i remember talking to people and i was like yo i had that korean taco like it was kind of bum and they were like oh my god i love that people just like sugar that’s what that’s what people find out sugar meat people just like sugar meat yeah and so any sort of like korean fusion taco it’s not people making like you know sundubu or like any like you know um gamjatang korean taco no it’s just something covered in sweet soy yeah and spicy and so i think with with wings i think this isn’t even like you know a drums versus flats sort of thing i think you could just serve anyone any fried meat covered in sauce and they would be as happy as they are i concur [Music] well bone sucker we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling around there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions i like casseroles [Music] emily ann 11. adding sawyer fish sauce to a beaten egg and then frying it is the best way to eat an egg i don’t know about best because there’s like a lot of great ways to eat an egg but i will say that adding soy sauce to an egg and scrambling it is freaking delicious that’s something i was doing during quarantine when i was just like bored with my daily eggs and i started putting soy sauce in there really freaking fantastic never done fish sauce that is that is really interesting i love this i think this is a great opinion i value your opinion you have good opinions yeah sometimes i like to do soy sauce a little bit of sesame oil and some sugar and then it’s kind of like a bootleg tamagoyaki yum yeah that sounds really good yummy okay tap okay let me just read this tap i think it’s tapir freunda okay i think it literally means friend of tape ears you know tapia the animal it’s like related to an anteater yeah tape your f okay tape your friend says nutella and cheese together on a sandwich is nice um no no no nutella and cream cheese great classic jewish uh food we used to eat all the time you’ve seen that you see nutella yeah jutila of course i would never oh my god jutella was like the story of i hated it i to this day i hate nutella but i love nutella and uh no this is not a good mix up it sounds gross it depends what kind of cheese we’re talking about we’re talking about a slice of cheddar i don’t think i’m down i like what kind what kind of slice cream no cream cheese this is josh but they’re not talking about cream you know they’re not talking about cream cheese right now i think chocolate in a lot of things doesn’t go together as well as people think like even like chocolate and bacon like i do not know as a combo it’s just it’s never quite been my thing and a lot of people think it would be anything it’s like how everyone said that i’d love the show archer uh-huh they’re like oh josh you’re you’re kind of offensive to the senses and you know the stronger you would love archer and i i watched the show and i was like i’m sorry i don’t i don’t love this it’s a fine show i didn’t enjoy it either that’s just not my thing nutella ng is not my thing but tapia freunda i hope that is your name and i’m very i would like to hear the story behind it uh not my thing glad it’s your thing at vigil michael people need to differentiate beef jerky and carne seika jerky equals mediocre moist seika equals superior i know exactly what they’re talking about and this is never had it this is a new uh sort of this is a new development in the jerky world okay cool this idea of wet jerkies right you buy so many different jerkies crave is the one that i’m paying my favorite it is freaking delicious but right it’s like it’s it’s moist it’s so it’s almost a juicy jerky it’s juicy drink it’s pliable yeah but uh shout out to the dudes from righteous felon beef jerky they and i ended up on some weird sponsored arby’s trip when i was like 21 years old but there’s these like craft beef jerky makers and i remember talking to them and i was like yo have you guys had crave jerky i love crepe jerky and they’re just like screw crave man i was like wow he’s like they’re just literally watering down jerky and i was like what do you mean they’re like literally the mark of a good jerky like the reason jerky exists is to preserve right absolutely the mark of a good jerky should be its dryness like if you’re just adding salt water to that then you’re paying for that salt water instead of meat and it’s like not preserving it you’re having to add other preservatives to it and so this idea of these like wet bagged jerkys out there it’s a relatively new thing that the market just demanded i demanded it because i love a nice tender wet crave they got that like turkey jerky with the maple and black pepper you’ve seen me stressing the bag of jerky before oh yeah more than once yeah so i i understand the love of of carne seca currently when carnegie is just literally kind of like mexican beef jerky i’ve never had carne asaka but i love beef jerky so i guess i just gotta try it well yesterday in the office we just to to get a postmates order to fifteen dollars we uh got ourselves a snack of thai style beef jerky that was good which i’ve always thought was kind of a funny way to phrase it because it’s not beef jerky right like it is it’s you know kind of like fried hard and a little bit dried but it’s like incredibly flavorful and supple and you dip it in that little dried chili fish sauce i just love meat i love meat i’m just a carnivorous person what’s your favorite animal that to jerk a beef beef i’m a beef jerk i’m a beef jerk woman i love jerking me some cuttlefish oh i’ve tricked cuttlefish before i uh korean cuttlefish turkey when i lived in koreatown the cgv is a korean chain of theaters and that was the only theater in walking distance from me yeah and i used to like go alone when i didn’t have a job fun employment at like 11am and catch a korean matinee and just eat a whole bag of cuttlefish jerky to myself korean matinee yeah you watch korean movies yeah sometimes do they have subtitles uh yeah yeah that’s really american stuff that was there was there was one about the like um i thought it was gonna be like a kind of action feudal warlord movie but it was just about the invention of the korean language that’s kind of cool yeah it was okay that’s really cool it’s like three hours but i got to eat more cuddle fish turkey eco lilia says tomato sandwiches don’t count without duke’s mayo i’ve been seeing this tomato sandwich with duke’s mayo all over my feet for some reason what is going on am i missing something we’re missing duke’s mayo we have to we have to get where’s what is trevor doing right now cleaning out the fryer he’s cleaning out the fire after that and trevor does a lot more than just clean out the fryer he really does a lot very valued number of the team he’s honest however someone get him to order us some dang dukes man because we need to get that in here last time we tried to order dukes though it got heated up in the shipping process and it curdled really yeah we tried to get dukes was i here when that happened i think it was before your time okay well we gotta make sure it’s a heat sensitive product i i believe you on this uh duke’s mayo tomato sandwich yeah i really want to try it because i can’t stop seeing it on my feed at shark kid in my opinion eating kiwi with the skin on is the best way to eat it i literally said to you yesterday when’s the last time you ate a kiwi and you’re like never i hate i don’t enjoy kiwis i i i don’t like textures like that like to me the texture of kiwi seeds is like light bulb glass that’s a little dramatic it’s super dramatic but it’s the same reason that i don’t like eating pomegranate seeds where it just feels like i’m chewing on like sunflower kernels you can spit out the arrows some people do that but i love carols yeah pomegranate arrows i never heard that i laugh sounds like a pokemon you’re a pokemon what don’t take it back no you’re a pokemon you’re snorlax you’re squirtle you look like squirtle you eat skin on kiwi i ate my banana skin on do you eat your chicken sandwich with the skin once i went to jack in the box and they left like the wax paper underneath the cheese in the sandwich and i just ate like half of it before noticing i was just like i noticed that there was something off but i was kind of just like a typical jack-in-the-box kind of off right now and then i looked at it and i was like yo you ate a whole half sheet of wax paper oh weird poops okay uh cassandra v gonzalez says raisins don’t balone or belong in cinnamon rolls yeah i don’t i don’t like that either people do that i guess oh i mean it’s like you do you ever have bread pudding with raisins in it yeah i love bread pudding but that’s because it’s in the it’s like it’s like an old man dessert and raisins are an old man food and i’m an old man cinnamon rolls are for the youth it’s for the gen z i think that this the raisins don’t hydrate enough in cinnamon rolls and people don’t typically soak their raisins a really really good tip whenever you’re cooking is to soak your dried fruit in like a little bit of hot water or a brandy and it makes it really really more enjoyable so if you soak your raisins in a little bit of brandy or hot water before you put it in your cinnamon roll dough sure that’s fine but just throwing in a handful of raisins it’s not gonna it’s not good yeah to me at that point it kind of becomes less less of a cinnamon roll more of like a breakfast bun yeah right which is fine yeah which one dude i made these dankity dank rolls because they weren’t cinnamon rolls but it was like cinnamon roll style dough what was in the middle all that so i took a bunch of uh fresh mint and basil okay and i like i chopped it really fine and then i made a paste using sugar as an abrasion okay abrasive uh with lemon zest so it was mint basil lemon zest with the sugar rolled up and baked in these little rolls and they were so freaking good wow yeah i think did the fresh uh herbs uh turn brown at all no they didn’t i thought they would but they didn’t i think i think there’s enough like acid in the lemon zest wow just like enough of that citrusness to like actually keep it fresh and green great that’s awesome dude i love that where we got we got at wheelie tasty gastronomy casseroles are grandparents food old tired and outdated needs a makeover i initially was gonna push back because i was like grandparents food look i’m i’m a man who likes a nice hearty casserole but do they need a makeover yeah i think they need a rebrand and i think there’s some people out there who are hitting the casserole re-brand really hard shout out to molly yay uh of molly on the farm yeah she you know hot dish she is from minnesota border of minnesota in north dakota and uh you know she reaches into her chinese and jewish and midwest roots to really rebrand some of these casseroles or hot dishes as the minnesotans call them hot brown hot brown hot brown’s a kentucky sandwich oh never mind okay it’s an open face sandwich so sorry but anyway so i i think we do have people on the front lines making over casseroles wheelie tasting gastronomy uh you are correct yeah um they’re definitely old old grandparent food again i just told you i’m an old man so uh i think casseroles are great but i do agree that mollier and her uh hot dish vernacular is doing good for the food world okay carly bridget v says mustard is a highly overrated condiment no it’s not let me tell you what happened your taste buds are going to change in like a few years okay this is what happened to me i hated mustard with every fiber of my being i was like ugh who eats that yellow crap that’s disgusting ew and then i had a little bit of dijon on them on a hot dog and i was like holy cannoli where have you been all my life you beautiful condiment your taste buds are going to change carly your body is going through changes right now are you there god it’s me margaret uh yeah it’s just your your taste buds are going to mature they’re going to change it like it ebbs and flows you know you taste new things you start liking new things you start hating new things i don’t think i’m a mustard stan and i do think mustard stands are out there but like boy do i sure enjoy a good mustard like even just just golden spicy brown like the one that you get from the costco on the costco hot dogs what a lovely mustard just a nice german sausage dipped in mustard yeah i think i think mustard is one of those kind of miracle foods that like it’s just like a flower right it’s a c yeah well it’s like the seed of a mustard flower and then you just like grind it and mix it with some stuff but from that it has created just thousands of varieties across so many different cultures so i think mustard is kind of like one of those beautiful little miracle foods that pops up everywhere yeah i respect mustard you know what i love russian mustard what’s russian mustard oh my gosh is it purple no no no why would it be perfect i don’t know russia i don’t know i thought of borscht russia with purple yeah because borscht no russians eat beets it’s almost exactly like chinese hot mustard except it’s like a little bit lighter in color and my dad loves that crap he just takes a piece of bread and dips it in and it’s like yeah and like he and like it’s so horseradishy yeah he like opens his mouth as he chews it he’s like you gotta let the air flow yeah yeah and it’s so i love it and like in like a little dollop in like a soup wow my mouth just started watering thinking about phillipe’s hot mustard original wow i haven’t been to philipps in maybe four years yeah i haven’t been since pandemic started but before that i went recently and i god is it good that is one of those og restaurants that will hold up what a cool place and i’ve had it against coles against the other places that say they invented the friendship oh my god philippe there’s so much craft and attention and flavor in that sandwich and the hot mustard mustard ain’t no overrated at the sarah hawk lemonade that isn’t tart is just lemon sugar water um correct well lemon sugar water is lemonade correct so this is this is a little bit semantically confusing for me but i will say when gatorade came out i know what you mean about just like watered-down kind of lemonade that doesn’t have that really tart punch totally agree it’s kind of booty but when gatorade came out with their organic lemon lime version never have i ever had that so i i was just very curious because i looked at the ingredients label like what the hell are they gonna put without all this you know like riboflavin and stuff in it uh and it was what when i realized that gatorade is just salty watered down lemonade mm-hmm that’s all it is that’s all it is that’s all it is because like it it just has you know a little bit of sweetener a little bit of lemon juice or flavor and then electrolytes are basically just salt yes and so it’s just watered down salty lemonade and i was like we’ve been scammed the whole time uh i agree with the statement lemonade that isn’t tart is just lemon sugar water yes agreed uh b-r-o-d-g says the taco bell cinnamon twist are just cinnamon cheetos no they’re not okay listen to me i made i made cheetos from scratch holy hell what a process that was there’s no way on this planet earth that you can say a cinnamon twist as a cheeto yeah cinnamon twist the cinnamon cheeto of course it’s no it’s not cheetos came out with cinnamon cheetos and they were called sweetos and they were even a different like shape they almost looked more sweet before yeah if you eat one you’re just like oh this is just bag cinnamon twist no yeah they’re just just puffed grain that’s fried covered in sugar it’s delicious i’m a bloated grain right now because i haven’t gone bathroom at ava2343 oreos dipped in orange juice is good no this to me is worse than toothpaste and orange juice i would rather just make a toothpaste orange juice shooter than have that like dark black cocoa flavor with the acidity to me that is that’s vomit taste all i want to say is please brush your teeth that’s all i want to say about this this just sounds like like i know i know people who do that too oh it sounds like like i can feel the plaque growing on the back of my teeth just the acid and the hydrogenated oils combining no that’s that’s a bridge far for me and i do some weird stuff with food uh but that said you know i think what we’ve really learned here nicole is live your life live your truth share your journey live who would eat pray love i think was the sequel to that bridget jones diary 3. and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like 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