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show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host joshua and i’m your host nicole hendizada and today we are answering the question which generation is the best at cooking nicole what do you think are you gonna sell out your current generation and go with someone else don’t be a sellout uh how about we say it on three together yeah one two three middle millennials there are middle millennials once we were born between like 1990 and 1994 so you so me well yeah and like my general peers oh my gosh no boomers what do you mean boom okay so baby boomers which uh let me don’t cate for the boomers today don’t be that don’t be the the generation trader the baby boomers are apparently 51 to 69 years old nice nice nice and yeah i the best food i’ve ever had was prepared by an older person i’m sorry nobody cooks the way an older person cooks it cooking comes with experience cooking comes with patience cooking comes with wisdom all of those things create a better chef disagree cooking does not come from age wisdom or experience cooking comes from radical new ideas and willingness to experiment and access to information and that is how if that’s not age dependent but being but being radical and stuff that’s not age dependent you could still be radical and try new things when you’re old that’s true there there is a chance here that we veer into aegis territory and we certainly will not try and do that but if we were to say look at the demographics okay of say you know the big cooking blogs today because i’m thinking about all the access of information that i had versus my dad was a baby boomer i act like i’m admitting something like my father was a boomer nicole old he was old uh he was like literally born in 1946 like during the baby boom yeah and growing up when we wanted to make a recipe at home uh as opposed to you know consulting google he wasn’t the greatest with computers and whatnot like he didn’t know how to use the gps or especially a smartphone and so he would have me go on mapquest.com oh don’t even print out physical balls oh my god we have the same life in so many ways to this day my dad still goes blah blah can you map questions for me dad mapquest has been out of business for like seven years wait does mapquest still exist i don’t use map quest i use waze like um like a minion millennial i am no i’m so sorry like i’m happy we have that same uh we have that yeah the shared life experience that’s really fun occasionally i’ll go back and ask jeeves an actual question i think jeeves is still there that was before like you know google was dominating everything i remember when i was a child i would literally ask jeeves and i’d be like hey jeeves can i get the answer and i would just type a full out question not understanding that it was just you know a thing that would search keywords through an algorithm when’s the last time you did that like two weeks ago i was like jeeves what is love and he just said this is ask.com you just said baby don’t hurt me no you know that it’s just ask.com anyways what i was saying my dad when we wanted to make a recipe growing up uh you know he wouldn’t go consult the internet and like i i we had like dsl at that point you know um and so he would go to a 1944 church cookbook that had like been passed down through his family it was like one of the few family mementos that we had no one from our family wrote it or even like went to church it was just a random old cookbook that we had but all the recipes were just like stewed prunes with rabbit and it was like do you have a garden filled with rabbits kill a rabbit melt down a brick alard throw some prunes in there and you got a dish and he was just like yes what we ate growing up and he was like you know not from like the rural south or anything it was just you know from allentown pennsylvania and i don’t know if people know this there was a a huge push for people to keep backyard rabbits during world war ii i didn’t know that it was this huge like very awesome uh kind of american wartime propaganda thing called victory rabbits interesting well they were called victory gardens where they were basically like yo if stuff really hits the fan and the war comes to the u.s our food supply lines are going to get disrupted so like housewives staying at home your husbands are off fighting the nazis you need to be growing a garden to be able to learn a subsistence farm also in that garden you should have uh rabbits because they’re a very low touch animal to keep and eat and they breed a lot you can fatten them up really well and so like you know my dad would just grow up eating rabbits that had been he said he would like pull buckshot out of the rabbit meat and eat it and so what i’m saying you know you go from that to the my millennial sensibilities of cooking cheesecakes do cheesecakes no but not that but i mean access to you know different cultures in cuisines like you know in thinking about my dad’s era you know his his mom never would have thought to cook you know filipino adobo or korean mole nem young or anything anything i think now that we are in this information age there’s just a massive potential to explore the world’s cuisines from your own kitchen and again i understand that even talking about this discussion like we’re looking at it through our respective culinarily you know our respective biases and whatnot so like obviously you know if you’re from an immigrant community um you know you eat vastly different foods and those change differently throughout generations you know i got some jewish-ism on one side so i grew up you know eating some brisket and some smoked salmon every once in a while but my view of baby boomer cooking uh through my own personal bias lens is just like mayonnaise in like spam you’re gonna end on spam i’m gonna end on spam you end on spam so i think that baby boomers are much better cooks because they’re it’s pure it’s simple it’s delicious i think millennials are just screwing it all up we’re just going in there and we’re taking we’re taking you know foods from like i don’t know rural michigan and then we’re throwing in oh let’s put some you know from laotian food in there and it’s just like what are you doing i don’t think millennials have the same respect for food the way that baby boomers do i think they just want to go in there and you know they’re like i saw this on a blog no reputable sources they’re just like i saw this crazy thing on the internet i’m gonna try to make it and then they don’t know that it’s a fake video where someone literally takes a caramel and heats it up it’s so funny have you seen these like five minute crafts videos where they take like we’re like 25 ways to make caramel fun and it’s like really unsafe methods of like cooking of like taking a worthless caramel and heating it up on a pan and then in the next shot it’s like beautifully like melted caramel sauce which is not how you do it yeah oh there’s there’s so much faking and movie magic there is so much misinformation going on for millennial cooks that it’s actually dangerous the one thing i can say is that the boomers the things that they were given those church cookbooks from 1944 that kind of information stays because it’s been tried and true and tested millennials don’t have that much access to concrete strong true tried and tested recipes the way that our mommies and daddies did that is a really interesting point it’s like we’re so spoiled for information too much information i mean that’s such a metaphor for just like the current time we’re living in it’s like you would think people would be so educated about all these current events and everything but there’s literally just too much information to choose from that we can’t even decide god i i guess i feel that when i cook all the time too i’m literally like living in los angeles we have access to every type of food imaginable there are people from every single country in the world represented in los angeles if you want to go find trinidadian groceries you can easily find trinidadian groceries yeah you got to go down south there’s actually a really good training grocery store down there i’m sure but anyways like now when i’m you know what do i make for dinner every night and i know i have all this wealth of knowledge and culture and food at my disposal i’m just like i’m just gonna boil rice and mix it with yogurt and meat you know so i do i do feel that yeah yeah and like you said like a lot of the content that’s being created on the internet on all these blogs and stuff they’re not vetted it’s not from experts and like how many times have you tried to follow a recipe from one of these kind of new foodie blogs i mean crap i wrote a blog for a long time that like my recipes weren’t like properly tested i would you know measure some stuff and i kind of eyeball it and then write a recipe and then people will try and go and make it and sometimes they strap just be like yo this don’t work and then i’d go into the recipe and realize like oh i just forgot you know an egg an egg yeah or anything baking soda really anything yeah whereas at least you know when you’re talking about these i guess church cookbooks are a different thing because those are just kind of cobbled together but i’m thinking about when there was more like hierarchy in food media and stuff that was published you know like mfk fisher you know writings like sure beautiful cookbooks back in the day like that stuff was rigorously tested because they had the kind of resources to do that that said it’s less democratic because now you can have anyone sort of creating these resources online so it’s like which one would you rather have i that’s that’s something that’s really interesting because a lot of the times it’s like you get inundated with so many different things and so many different options it’s like that that’s still is it sylvia plath the bell jar yeah talks 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because they are like combining our you know the mistakes we make and the accidents we make and they’re combining the knowledge of the boomers and creating like a new food sphere that like we don’t even know about that is that’s a really interesting point because the first generation that gets a new technology right they always like screw it up in a way that’s great because we do we’re both responsible for so many food crimes against humanity we made a hot dog cake we made flamin hot pop tarts because we saw the like wow the the the internet universe is vast and infinite we can do anything we want we have all the power and then we abused it and we’re still currently abusing it for a full-time job it’s fun i love that i have a good time i have a great time yeah but no i think it’s like the atomic bomb right when it was first created it was just like how can we make this big yeah oppenheimer now i am become now i’m become death destroyer of worlds yes you know so many people on the manhattan project were so like regretful of what they did and then now you know we see the nuclear non-proliferation movement sort of happening where people like how well now that we have this technology how do we use it ethically that’s how i feel about gen z and millennials in terms of food and internet oh my gosh you know like they’re like look you guys created like laotian sushi burrito taco lasagnas maybe we can just use this vast wealth of knowledge yeah to teach people how to cook real things because even yeah dudes like newt and niche cooks they’re just making like good accessible meals and getting like millions upon millions of views it’s awesome yeah i think uh newt made these like balsamic glazed chicken wings so i was like that is almost like a retro recipe it’s i’m telling you recipes food is cyclical it goes like jello do you know how popular jello i am in a jello group did you know that on facebook you’re gonna jump in a jello appreciation group called show me your ass pics and it’s my favorite stop aspect aspect isn’t like a savory ass and i love jello and i think it’s just such a cool medium that’s like from like what like mom’s in utah in like 1930 or something there’s a crazy story behind the creation of that like actual jello i can’t remember what it is i think it had something to do with world war ii oh no but mormons do love jello and jello salads but so do filipino people oh i really noticed that i i remember i was um i was at a potluck with a filipino friend and um she brought uh ambrosia salad which is i believe there’s jello in it but it’s some combination like cool cool whip pineapple and walnuts i believe marshmallows as well okay cool yeah mini marshmallows but they’re all these very like atomic age foods from the 1950s that to me like i grew up eating that stuff cool they’re cool they’re cool and i brought it to me is like really delicious it’s just a lovely neon orange creamy slop but i associate that with like you know my just super old white family from pennsylvania making it and my friend was straight up like i thought this was a filipino original dish wow yeah because if you think about you know hollow hollow there’s a bunch of very colorful desserts and then she asked her parents and she was like no this is something that every filipino just kind of like made when they emigrated to the us because they adopted it they you know it was very slightly familiar but they saw it as an assimilation food oh cool yeah so it’s funny how these kind of generational things through through one lens signify something and through another lens of your lived experience signify another thing totally i uh the one thing i will say though that the boomers don’t have that the the gen z’s and the gen y’s have is uh vegan options yeah that’s another that’s another case for you yeah that’s the point for you i’m just gonna give it to you at this point i really do think that the vegan and vegetarian world we are way past tofurky at this point you know oh yeah that is a really funny way to look at this yeah the boomers didn’t have much in terms of you know a vegan and vegetarian options we had tofurkey weak like i’m a boomer they had tofurkey and uh that’s about it well like tofu was a very kind of new it was seen as a very new weird like new age invention obviously tofu has been around for thousands of years making soy curds in china and it’s not used as just like a vegetarian meat substitute of course it’s used as its own standalone dish to be served in meat dishes like mapo tofu with ground ground pork absolutely delicious but then during this kind of 1970s new age spiritual movement where a lot of these eastern ideologies and diet practices and yoga and all that were kind of co-opted there’s this entire generation that hates tofu because their parents like tried to go vegetarian in the 1970s and made them eat a bunch of this just you know plain brick of white yeah and so like they don’t understand that it’s you know this generational understanding of what something is even like boca burgers if you look at the way that oh man don’t talk to me about those burgers have changed over the years oh geez i mean think of like a boca burger which is just this squishy greasy sponge some of them have a little cheesecake like vegan cheese cubes in them which i think are great versus like the impossible burger and like to see you know all that stuff on menus now at burger king at carl’s jr and all that like you know we haven’t exactly tackled climate change in the best way but you know we got impossible burgers at burger king that’s something at least that’s what i’m saying i think i’m gonna change my can i change i’m no longer baby boomers i’m gonna go with gen z wait hold on can i change mine too yeah yeah i’m no longer millennials i’m gen z here because i think we both okay we both okay because let me tell you like you said technology you know everyone screws up in the beginning when they first are given the technology but i think the next generation what’s after uh what’s after z i think we just start over i don’t know if we plan for any generation after z i think we’re like if we make it past gen z on earth we did a good job we can stop naming the generators we’re gonna call it gen zero gen zero because i’m i’m sure the world is gonna end yeah and then they’re gonna sprout from the ground like uh you know alfalfa’s definitely and i think gen zero has the most which doesn’t exist right now you’re putting all your future hopes yeah yeah yeah on a potentially post-apocalyptic generation yes yes because hunter-gatherers yes oh my gosh you know actually so funny say hunter gathers because when i was in like high school i was like ugh i can’t wait to go back to like a hunter gatherer like this the world is too advanced like this is so silly we were too similar yeah i’d be like the bartering system just makes more sense like i have a loaf of bread like yeah i used to just be like you know we really need to go back to hunter gatherer society i was like shut up nicole you don’t know what you’re talking about but i do feel like the next generation after gen z is gonna be the best at cooking do you feel like we put too many of our hopes and dreams and failings on gen z to correct because i think we feel that as much as boomers did that to us i know that’s what i’m saying we’re just repeating the cycle of generational abuse that’s right oh yeah you’re just accepting it that’s what we’re doing yeah they’re going to be poaching eggs and sulfuric acid save us trevor save us what type of food did like your parents grow up eating or what type of food do they cook in the home like would you say there’s a generational difference persian but like has how is persian food changed throughout the generations that’s freaking cool dude it doesn’t it don’t need to it’s been the way it’s been forever the only thing i will say is that new i mean i follow a lot of food blogs bloggers in iran which is really funny yeah so i see them doing cool things like you know making these big sausage sandwiches with like a bunch of stuff in there like and like taking like tomatoes and like fresh fresh like vegetables and like just smothering it in like some sort of like white sauce i don’t know what they’re doing in iran but i love what they’re doing because i’ve never had that yeah they’re really inventive they’re like doing crazy things back in the homeland that’s really interesting because i guess you know your whole kind of frame of reference around persian food is probably stuff that one you get from restaurants which are typically older owners um and then two what your parents are cooking so they’re kind of cooking a generation yeah that goes and running dishes and also what you think of that might be sort of fixed in your mind of what persian food is i mean i’m just thinking about like macaroni tattie oh my gosh right oh my gosh yeah remember when i made that dude that was really good but like really good i mean that’s made with boxed posture right yeah and that didn’t exist i’m sure that’s like not my parents had that yeah but i mean like for how long like there must have been a point in persian cookery where someone’s like this new generation making tadig out of macharoni you know i don’t well you should know that the shah of iran was really down to be westernized so like he was getting stuff from like france and italy and like all over the world and being like gum yeah you’re on good and then it just didn’t happen yeah but there must have been like generational tension like with stuff like that right i mean there’s still generational tension yeah me being a chef is generational oh yeah that makes sense yeah are you kidding me all the time you wanting to do something that’s not doctor not lawyer not engineer it’s generational tension yeah wearing uh you know clothes that are not exactly you know appropriate is generational you skateboarding all the time that’s generational attention know how to skateboard you should you know you’ve seen like the famous like photos of like the women’s skateboarding in iran in like the 70s oh dude it’s really baller that’s what i think of when i think of the generational tensions what not i mean i would love to learn how to skateboard but about persian food like i think that if i came in and i was like hey i’m gonna make uh i don’t know uh what’s a persian food josh uh gourmet sabzi if i made a warmer sabzi uh tostadas sounds good to me it does doesn’t it yeah but you know you got to be okay with getting some flack yeah but do you think a lot of that is trying to like especially with persians in the us trying to like maintain this food culture that’s so important i just think it’s the concept if it ain’t broke don’t fix it really with persian food that makes sense yeah it’s so good yeah because i mean like looking at all this through my family’s lens like there was nothing to not be broke right they were i mean they were just making you know pies and eating rabbits stewed with prunes and then every like new food invention that sort of came out like everyone likes to crap on these retro recipes all the time that are filled with jello i don’t mean either i think there’s i think it’s such an interesting like way to look at the world and what they were doing like have you seen the banana candle no okay and made in japan made the banana candle and that’s all i’m gonna say but i mean the crazy thing about that there’s so much like banana and pineapple in things that you wouldn’t expect there to be that stuff was like relatively new for a reason in america it’s because you know there was this increased sort of you could call it i mean colonialistic development and stuff in uh you know i mean literally the term banana republic exists because i believe trevor just taught me what that meant been in public i i’m like huh yeah you mean the place with the collared shirts he’s like no no no banana republic is a tournament i’m like well what are you doing yeah i mean it literally comes from the fact that america had such crazy investments in like banana farms in you know central america and whatnot and then you know with the annexation of hawaii then they had the dole corporation trying to like sell pineapples and this idea of like a tropical paradise dream to mainland americans and so you know we like to look back on all these weird dishes that are like mix pineapples with mayonnaise and then put it in a doughnut and everyone’s like again that’s just that’s just us that’s just again the people uh given new technology new foods uh screwing it up majorly and then after the generations going like okay now we can use pineapple and mayonnaise in this way yeah so that’s what it all is alpa store tacos i love alpacas i love all pasta tacos but yeah like you said we have these new technologies like packaged mayonnaise was a really big thing back then that people were so excited about i’m still excited about it i’m still excited i love me some pre-pack everyone’s like the best communities was homemade i’m like nah dude best foods it says it in the name that’s the best mayonnaise it’s helmet helmets and best food is the same i believe okay yeah interesting yeah yeah i like mayonnaise i like mayonnaise they called me mayonnaise girl in school you know that because i was very good at making noodles i love that i love that what was i gonna say i feel like i had something i’m sorry oh the same way the same way that the boomers like you could say screwed up all these things using tropical fruits and pre-made mayonnaise and gelatin and all these things that were kind of you know very much pushed on them from huge marketing efforts i think you could say the same way about millennials screwing up like fusion food really badly you know creating these monstrosities i mean i once made a um it was a sushi roll filled with pastrami and topped with poke i believe and those words together in a sentence made me shiver i’m sure if you saw me shiver oh but this is the swing in early 2010s you know where that was all the rage you know roy choice korean tacos you know flooded the world and everyone was like well if we just combine random words and then throw that out onto social media yeah essentially you do an afghani belgian fusion truck stuff like that that’d be pretty good what’s that about uh what what’s the yo there’s this one dish i feel i feel like every culture has their like signature drunk food and um you know in la like i think about one you know street dogs but also like carne asada fries oh hondo yeah there’s something called a halal snack pack in australia with the pizza box just just like fries and meat fries and meat it’s just fries in like kebab uh and just doused in you know whatever sauces i love i’ve seen a video of that being made in my mind oh yeah it was so interesting yeah i think we’ve also abused like i don’t think we can look at the boomers as like well they had gross bananas wrapped in ham covered in hollandaise ergo they were bad cooks i think you could look at so many think about all the abominations that buzzfeed tasty has put out into the universe right where they’re like cut a loaf of bread into weird strips and then stud it with raw ground beef and then put olives in there and then okay this actually sounds good you’re making a picadillo loaf you’re making but you know what i’m saying like you could look back at all of these tasty videos where they’re like you know wrap a chicken breast in bacon and then shove that into the bottom of a bread loaf then hollow that out and fill that with clam chowder and you got your bacon chicken clam chowder surprise bomb yeah those are the same types of things that speak to that cultural moment just like boomers are making with all these great recipes so for me that’s a wash we’re gonna look back people are gonna look back on our videos and just be like what are you guys doing over there yeah is that red bull gushers you guys are crazy they’re gonna be like you did that and it’s gonna take so long to try to explain the historical context behind that you’d be like no you see uh like shock videos on the internet were popular during this era but we tried to go sort of meadow with that and then also pay homage to the sort of food science cooking of alton brown but like alton brown you know on just a little bit of adhd medication to try and speak to the gen z like it’s so hard to explain all these things whereas for us we just know it as this is the current moment yeah exactly yeah so we’re all looking at this with our own biases sure but there are statistics though i am excited for it for gen zero i am too but is gen zero actually going to cook well if it’s post-apocalyptic they kind of got to they have to um learn how to make a fire to sticks and lit what’s the uh what’s the einstein quote um i don’t know what kinds of weapons world war iii will be fought with but i know world war four will be fought with sticks and stones okay gen zero i know you don’t exist right now but when you hear this you heard it here first you guys are going to be the best coach how did we transition from like who’s the best cooks to open up the apocalypse you know yeah one thing i will say is i mean millennials by the numbers do cook less than the generations before them you know we have more convenience foods out there and like people are busier and just working harder to try and afford life yeah and so i’m hoping that gen z doesn’t fall into that same category i hope that we can somehow like provide a better future for gen z until we have the apocalypse and all that yeah but can provide some sort of better future and you know they can actually take up the cooking mantle and become you know the generation that we have put all of our hopes and dreams and failures on don’t let us down trevor it’s up to you bud it’s up to you buddy you got this trevor you’re my boy all right nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions on like crosstalk [Music] wow we made a stylistic choice on that one and i don’t necessarily know if i like it i really enjoyed it oh that’s great this is like free jazz don’t listen to free jazz no but i want to watch whiplash again i’ve never seen it oh my god they put there is so much just uh emotion in that movie but i think it’s just because i grew up with a lot of um weird relationships with sports coaches anyways opinions are like casseroles first up we got at katy prather kombucha is nasty i don’t care what kind you have it all smells and tastes horrible okay you’re wrong you know yeah it’s a little vinegary but you know you go you get through it because of the health benefits i’m sorry i i cut over what you were getting no no no i was trying to wrap my head about this because you and i i think we both take this personally because we drink a lot of kombucha i take it very personally anytime any one of us goes to the store we just know we like know what ty what kombucha flavors all of us like now okay you have to get something with a little bit of an herbal twist yes yes oh god you put like lavender melon yeah you’re you’re a total guava goddess oh you are a quad guava goddess i am indeed trevor’s like barry trevor loves barry he’s a triple berry man that said yeah kombucha is like really gross if you if you really think about it if you really think about vinegar i love it i love me a good like vinegary soda type thing but the fact that like yeah there’s just occasionally going to be like a large gob of snot inside your vinegar soda if that is like a thing that someone told me i’d be like look i like it objectively is a little bit disgusting her name is scoby and you will respect her okay chris underscore dilophosphorus says spaghetti and meatballs is the worst pasta dish it’s too cumbersome um cumbersome is a great word to describe spaghetti and meatballs unwieldy i’d say yeah um it is probably one of the most annoying pasta dishes to eat still delicious but it is very annoying what’s another annoying pasta dish i think chicken fettuccine alfredo is also pretty pretty unless they don’t cube it up for you even when they keep it up for you though the chicken like it never really goes with the pasta like i don’t know if i like chicken in any pasta dish for me interesting i need a condiment ditto ditto with the meatballs no no have you ever had chicken with like some sort of like summer corn like ann yolotti i’d rather the chicken just not be there put some scrimps in that okay but scrubs are as cumbersome as chicken i don’t think so scrims got more flavor they have a more defined flavor but like chicken you’re just adding chewy texture to your pasta and i want the chewy texture to be from the pasta what i don’t agree with you at all we don’t have to agree we don’t have to like each other nicole we just have to work together uh no spaghetti and meatballs it’s funny when i had these italian roommates in college they were so perplexed by the idea of spaghetti and meatballs because apparently that does not exist like anywhere in italy there’s like spaghetti is the bread meatballs has bread in them why would you put them together interesting yeah they don’t have like possible like little porpete or anything no the porphete are just eaten uh as it itself and which i really love i love spaghetti with you know uh pomodoro or marinara or whatever and i love meatballs i just don’t ever need them on the same plate it’s how i feel about chicken and waffles i would love to sit down eat a eat a bunch of waffles and a bunch of fried chicken i just don’t ever need them to be on the same plate that’s okay we’ll talk about that another time at jeremypoolx114 blt and corn on the cob is one of the best meals ever how do you eat that i think i i i think you take the corn on the cob and you just put it inside the sandwich and bite through the cob no no no no no i think they just mean a blt with a side of corn on the cob okay i like give me a good side corn i like corn i love corn i love corn i think i’m one of the few people that goes to popeyes and gets the corn on the cob i didn’t know popeye’s had coral yeah so popeye’s got corn on the cob and they give it to you in a little deli cup and it’s just floating in some hot water oh and then you just pick out the wet corn you get to eat it it’s been cooking for hours so it’s pretty soft that’s why you like it that’s why you like it no i think that’s another thing speaking about generations like when i grew up my dad would make dinner we would use like you know a can of corn instant mashed potatoes in like a johnsonville sausage so i i’ve eaten just so much corn as a side dish in my life i love me some good side corn i haven’t had a good blt in a long time dude you should make yourself a blt there is nothing like every six months to just have a blt just to remind yourself what america tastes like the biannual blt yeah i have i’m not kidding i’m not kidding i have a biannual blt and i make it myself and i you know i take i literally it’s like one of my favorite things to do you saw my eyes roll in the back of my head right now literally i love to just take thick bacon and i like to put it in the oven and i bake it at 400 for 20 minutes and then i take really really beautiful tomatoes and then i take mayonnaise and then i salt and pepper the mayonnaise and they salt and pepper the tomatoes and then i take really really beautiful like either butter lettuce or romaine lettuce you like ice oh yeah give me the crunch no i want just wet crunch to offset the salt crunch of the bacon to the tomato juice oh no butters butter’s too waxy for me remains obtrusive with the spines no no no you take the you always take out the center spine with a sandwich so you’re just doing just bitter bitter dark leaf it’s not better what are you talking about you take out the center leaf and then you just have the beautiful vegetable i want the pleasant nutty crunch of iceberg to me crunching it up either i take the iceberg and i cut almost like a wedge off if you get if you get a fresh head of iceberg that has not been touched i literally just saw off the top and then i saw off a little bit of that to just create a like a rectangle of iceberg and then i put that on my blt you’re so funny it’s got to be beefsteak tomatoes to me too yes i like the exactly the big old fat boys legs the person’s legs no i’m legs your legs i can’t call you legs that’s weird haley legs get me a diet dr pepper so leg says popcorn with tabasco and dill pickles yup that’s that’s definitely a food tabasco tabasco is a good popcorn hot sauce i i don’t okay so i’m not a popcorn like crazy person my boyfriend loves popcorn he literally asks me to bring him popcorn to his house or to his office because he has like a bowl a day and i just can’t get a get behind it but i’m sure this sounds delicious i don’t know why it wouldn’t be delicious yeah i’m not a popcorn person either i love the idea of a ritualistic food that you eat with movies but i have a pitch for a new ritualistic food that you know what it is one two three ice cold grapes yeah yeah sorry so i think hold on give me a second when you go to a movie theater instead of having hot popcorn they should just take out the heating element to that giant thing and they should put in like a refrigerator box and it should be filled with loose grapes you know maybe a little bit maybe a little wet you know so they don’t kind of stick together and get waxy but loose wet grapes they they dig it out with one of those you know if you work in like a giant ice machine you got those ice scoops yeah yeah yeah big old ice scoop they get some wet grapes they put it in an insulated bucket but then you’re still allowed to put hot butter on them okay hot buttered cold grapes have you ever thought about the new reclining seats that everybody has yeah you’re choking on a grape when you’re like oh that’s not good that’s not good yeah yeah well i can see how people would not want to eat the cold grapes but i’m very glad that uh my girlfriend does not like popcorn and said we eat cold grapes while we watch movies that is a real thing i love you baby [Laughter] i love you mama i love you lady at julia x margaret mayonnaise is the best condiment i don’t see any lie the best condiment uh i don’t know i can’t this is a loaded this is loaded it’s tough if you really want to break it down because to me like if i had to choose one condiment for oh that’s an interesting question one condiment for the rest of your life would you choose oh i can’t i can’t i can’t i think mine would just have to be some sort of louisiana style vinegar say hot sauce because it just it adds it adds wet it adds spice it adds acid yeah i think so i need i think it’s hot sauce is the best condiment but that’s because i love spicy food yeah same here mill underscore messina says eating messy snack foods with chopstick is so convenient and keeps your fingers clean yes you have seen me do this on the mythical kitchen story i love eating chips with chopsticks now i want to get dirty i want my laptop to be stained the colors of whatever chips i’ve been eating at the time if i have been eating salsa verde i want to see a little red and green flecks across my space bar if i have been eating flamin hot cheetos i want red smearing my screen if i’ve been eating spicy sweet chili i want the reflection of the purple bag to come off because i have mashed it into my laptop i want to leave just a snail trail of the snack foods that i am covered in nicole okay snail trail mcgee at we’re doing mil messina again because i like this one organ meat especially intestines are amazing and should be more normalized yeah do you organize why not eat the whole damn animal what about i love it we’re throwing away usable animal flesh people are just weird like don’t be so turned off by it yeah 100 there’s no reason you should be there’s no like actual instinctive reason that like a kidney should be weirder to eat than you know a cow’s breast tissue exactly right aka brisket if you’re really thinking about it yeah yeah so i completely agree with that also people who talk about you know climate change and all this if you’re not also down with eating the entire animal you’re part of the problem exactly we should be focused on just whole animal butchery reduce the amount of actual animals that are soldered and we should be eating all the livers all the intestines also you got really got to clean intestines properly yeah but if you get really well prepared clean intestines there’s a lot of really good korean places that make a kopchong yeah that would be a good thing to do teaching the new generation teaching them how to clean intestines and how to not be scared of organ meat i think is something that would be really vital to those two you know instead of just like going full vegan is really really hard i think the transition to like you know eating the whole animal and then from there you know slowly like you know i don’t know it’s easier to eat an impossible burger or some intestines i think if you want to learn about the body you’ve got to learn about the ins and outs uh shiromata 95 says sweet avocado things are superior to savory avocado things i’m gonna butcher the way i’m saying this i’m sorry sin to beau is the best i don’t know what sintubo is don’t mean either it looks vietnamese oh vietnamese avocado shake okay i’ve heard of this before i’ve definitely heard of this before i’ve seen it before um i do not have a lot of sweet avocado things but one of my favorite things in the world is avocado toast with honey i just put avocado uh whole grain bread and a squirt of honey and i love it so i don’t see why it couldn’t work but i eat avocados every day i’m a big fan of avocado with condensed milk and sesame on it oh yeah i made just like randomly this kind of salad with like canned mandarin oranges cubed avocado condensed milk and sesame seeds and it was really freaking good that sounds really good okay there’s no reason that avocado should like inherently be savory it does have that kind of vegetable bacterial you know kind of green taste to it but also if you’ve ever had like i mean zucchini bread is a perfect example absolutely yeah zucchini is normally used in savory things but you can use it in sweet things i’ve had a zucchini mousse that was really incredible it reminds me of cinto ball the the vietnamese shape oh no no no i i’ve had like a zucchini mousse that the flavor of it the sweet with that kind of like you know green vegetable taste really reminds me of a lot of these sweet avocado dishes so i’m a huge fan i’ve had avocado in a lot of filipino hollow hollows too it’s good i agree i want to make dessert guac [Laughter] all right at nudge three nachos are a salad shut up shout out meg no this is one that comes up nicole this is one that comes up we may have to do a whole episode on this they got a point it’s not they got a point what about it like a tosada salad you know that’s a toaster yeah but if you drop that on the ground suddenly it’s a nacho place once you drop some salad right now no i made a fatigue for everybody’s wedding i do love me some fatigue yeah so this is whack i think there’s you got to look at what lens you’re looking at because like fatigue there’s a big like you know a salad culture you know in the region there’s a salad culture of course it’s alcohol like think about you know the even like the hebrew or salah team uh-huh you know yeah okay you go middle east israel you know they have a whole word for just little salads that they give you we don’t got that like korean bond yeah read you like a book man no nachos are not a salad yeah matches are salad makes me feel better at my diet okay last one the guitar mon arugula is just spicy lettuce speaking of things that millennials have ruined putting arugula on literally everything especially burgers i love arugula you love no you’re part of the problem salad in the world is an arugula salad warm balsamic glazed creamy mushrooms feta cheese and then i just put olive oil salt pepper chili flake that’s the best salad ever we’re all gonna be so embarrassed for ourselves when you look back at what we were eating in 20 years i think i agree with this and i love arugula gordon ramsay calls it rocket on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog it’s a sandwich we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or nhandyzoda with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share 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