Is this a first date? I’m kind of nervous. >> Oh, whoa, whoa. Uh, we’re just uh recording a podcast here. >> Yeah, we’re literally married. >> Oh, Angela, I didn’t see you there. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. >> Hot dog is a sandwich. >> Ketchup is a smoothie. >> Yeah, I put ice in my cereal. So what? >> That makes no sense. >> A hot dog is a sandwich. >> A hot dog is a sandwich. >> What? >> Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. I’m your host, Josh Sharon. Joining me today are husband and wife cooking and baking dua Angela Kinsey and Joshua Snider. Angela and Joshua are both actors who host a YouTube cooking channel together called Baking with Josh and Anirbook, You Can Make This is out now. Everyone give them a warm welcome to the podcast. It’s just two of us. Look at those. Look at those Shaina pudds. Those beautiful smiling faces on the cookbook. Masletov, by the way. >> Thank you so much. We were pretty excited when we finally got it and got to hold it and look at it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, after so much time working on it, it was to actually hold the physical copy was like so >> we we had to bring one today to show you. >> I I love it so much. I mean, tell me about how that process was for you. What made you two want to write a cookbook together? Because I’ve I’ve been watching y’all bake on YouTube for years, especially, you know, having former office stars on there like Rain Wilson, uh, two friends of the show, Brian Balgartner. >> Yeah. Well, thank you for watching our YouTube channel. God bless. Um, very mom and pop. Just us kind of throwing things up in the kitchen, >> trying to trying to figure out how to work a camera and a microphone, >> you know, and video ourselves. Yeah. >> Josh just was always making stuff for us and the kids and he’s just a natural in the kitchen. And I really always say the kitchen is the heart of our home and we were a blended family. It’s very much how all of our early family memories were. And um, I just said to him, I was like, “Babe, you’re really good at this. you should have like a, you know, do it on YouTube, bake for people, share your gift. Very sweet. >> And then he was like, I’m not doing this without you. And I was like, all right. I just kind of I just am I taste things and I chat. >> Yeah. I I grew up in the kitchen with my, you know, my my grandma and my my mom. I So I was always in in the kitchen helping with recipes and things. So I was very comfortable in the kitchen. But >> yeah, Josh is the only boy in a house full of sisters. And so he was just they always put him to work. >> Yeah. and I was the youngest. I have three older sisters and they kind of shued me out of the kitchen. Um so that’s kind of like our our life experience. He was always baking and I was just always being a goofball. >> Yeah. Especially when we had kids, you know, when I had kids then um that that whole love of baking and of like, you know, creating things for them, especially like I started with their birthday cakes and cookies. Yeah. >> And just I I realized I really enjoyed it at that point, too. And so also we would like, you know, when your kids are little, for those of you guys that have little kids, they’ll want a theme birthday. So it’s like a, you know, a Disney princess or Ninjago or, you know, something. And then very big Ninjago. >> And then you go and you look at what those cakes cost if you want a really cool themed cake and they’re expensive. And Josh is just kind of a roll up your sleeves kind of guy. And he’s like, I think I can do it. And I’m like, seriously, you can make a Minecraft cake? Really? >> I feel like Minecraft cake, at least Minecraft tends to deal in squares, which >> squares. Yeah, true. >> I had to Google what a Ninjago was. I’m officially old and out of touch with the kids. I don’t have kids of my own yet. >> Did you ever successfully make a Ninjago cake? >> Yes. Yes, I did. I did. Yes, it was uh it wasn’t too bad either. I mean, anything Lego is pretty, you know, so it wasn’t too bad. He also though one year um our daughter Isabelle wanted you know her she wanted a her first kind of big sleepover birthday and everyone she wanted like the party favor to be a pair of slippers for her friends and so he made a cake that looked like a pair of pink fuzzy slippers like on top of the cake. I know. >> I know. I know. It’s it’s fun for me too and I you know I I come by this naturally. My my dad um always made cakes when you know we were kids too. Was he a professional baker at all or was >> No. No. Just a dude just kind of >> I I think they like the science of baking and like we like to build stuff. >> We also like completing the project too. Like I like being like to >> reverse engineer things and try and figure out things work and then you know uh to finish it and you know >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I love to taste things >> and you need the two like you can’t cook something without a taste tester and without somebody who’s incredibly gracious. So, both of you had equally important roles >> in the kitchen and then somebody to figure out the video and audio, but that’s a whole separate issue. >> I wish I wish. >> Yeah, >> I wish that’d be helpful. >> I mean, I love so much about that story is that cooking it’s so cliche at this point, but like especially as I’ve gotten older and I guess I’ve gotten more sappier and and cliche as a person is like understanding that it really is about love. It’s like showing somebody that you care enough to put in that effort >> to make the fuzzy slippers, too. I imagine you had one of those really like needle point piping bags, piping individual hairs on top of it. Like it’s that effort that goes into cooking that shows somebody like, “Hey, I’ve listened to you. I care about you. I know what you want.” And it sounds like those stories are kind of littered all throughout your lives and the cookbook. >> Absolutely. I mean, this is definitely I know for me personally, it’s like it’s the way I show love to people, you know, just making dinner at night for the whole family, you know, that that’s that’s a way for me to kind of >> show them that I care. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, today we are talking about a little bit of love, but also the snafuss in where that love can go wrong cuz we want to talk about the worst first date foods because I understand that cooking and eating because you come from blended families and, you know, got kids running around, it’s hard to actually sneak out and go on the proper date night, but you talk about in the book, you know, cooking for each other as a nice date. Did you ever have anything go wrong in those moments? I mean, you know, the first that soup I made Josh, I made him this. I found out he likes soup. The man loves soup. Oh my goodness. >> It’s soup season, too. So, I’m like so excited. >> Did you know soup has a season? >> Well, I’ll tell you what, cuz I made my first soup of the season yesterday and I went, “It’s soup season.” And then my wife rightly pointed out, “It’s 98 degrees outside.” And I said, “Okay, but on the calendar it’s soup season.” >> Yeah. This is You guys might end up being best friends. Southern California is different. soup season, you get like a month and a half. >> I know. But when we were dating, I was like, “Well, I mean, if I’m gonna, you know, give him the razledazzle recipe, it better it’s got to be a soup recipe.” >> I hope you looked at yourself in the mirror and said, “Come on, Ang. Give him the old razledazzle of soup.” >> Razled. But I did. I made him this big pot of soup. And um there wasn’t a snafu that day, but if if he could have seen my kitchen, which he didn’t cuz I brought him the pot of soup and it was like I mean disaster, chaos, things everywhere. I don’t know how he makes a recipe in the kitchen look so neat. He like cleans as he goes, >> which is amazing. >> I’m pretty particular about how how I like to do things. I get everything ready beforehand, you know, kind of that mis and plas, you know, like have everything ready to go. >> And then um as I’m cooking, I’m cleaning. So when by the time I’m done, it’s like the kitchen’s clean. >> My razledazzle gets everywhere. Okay. That’s That’s what happens. >> A little razle here, a little dazzle there. When you cook, it’s like letting confetti go in New Year’s. It’s just Yeah. >> Exactly. >> I It’s so funny. Yeah. I When I cook in the kitchen, it’s And I haven’t had a ton of actual professional cooking experience. I worked in kitchens for a little bit, but I’ve just been doing food media stuff forever. But I take such immense pride in the if you have time to lean, you have time to clean. And so like I’m I’m cooking in my own kitchen and I’m like I have 30 seconds on that pan before I have to do the old sauté flip. I can like rinse that, get it over in the drying rack. And so I I appreciate I appreciate the dogged mentality, >> but I also love the razledazzle. >> He feels seen right now. Thank you. Thank you, Joshua. >> Anytime. Are there any like date foods that really stood out to to both of you like in your story? Like things either of you made for each other, you know, maybe early on in your relationship where you’re like, “This is when I knew that, you know, this person was someone very very special to me?” >> Well, >> I mean, that soup was a big one for me. I mean, honestly, like when I >> she gave me that soup, I was like I was like, “Wow, this this this person gets me and I’m going to get such delicious dinners all the time.” >> He thought I was going to be like soup making gal and I was like I can make I can make one soup. >> What was in the soup? Do you remember the details about the soup? >> Yes. Yes, I do. It’s um it’s like a wedding soup. It’s so it’s um you have uh minced like uh chicken meatballs that you make and you roll them in like um bread crust, you know. >> Um and then you have uh onions and tomato and spinach that Oh, no, sorry, kale. Kale that you sauté. And then you add in some red wine and some chicken broth. And you just kind of let that all cook. And oh, beans. He loves beans. >> I do love beans. And it’s so funny cuz no one in my family likes beans. >> Oh, >> like me and the kids. We’re not big bean people. >> So I have to like, you know, >> make something different myself sometimes. >> Do you like Wait. Okay. So I my wife is actually allergic to beans, but she also doesn’t like them. And her, you know, uh my mother-in-law lives right across the street. We cook for her a lot. And she also just doesn’t like beans. I love beans and so I like wait for my wife to go out of town and that’s my version of like going out with the boys is like I’m cooking a pot of beans >> let’s do it >> and I’m going crazy >> and I’m going in on it >> if I have like oh hey babe I have to work late you know and he’s like oh great he’s makes his like he has this like I don’t know what you call that your burrito mix and he’s dumping all kinds of beans in it >> that’s the thing is like when I make the the turkey burritos for the family you know I have to leave out the beans I’m very you know or make them on the side It’s not as good. But when you know, everyone’s gone. It’s just me. >> He goes bean crazy. >> Beans loading it up. >> Yeah. >> Josh, I think you and I are living parallel lives to each other. >> I know. I have my like Julia’s going out of town beans in the cupboard and I have them like earmarked for I think she’s leaving for New York in like 4 days and yeah, I’m going to go buy some flour tortillas and that’s awesome. >> Yeah, >> that’s so fun. Um, and Josh, you know, one of the I think one of the times when my heart just kind of melted was um I watched him work so hard on this cake, not even for us, for it was for a friend’s daughter, and they reached out and they said, and they were definitely on a tight budget that year, and they wanted um Elsa, you know, uh >> from Frozen cake, and he made this cake with like a staircase like you know, the ice staircase that Elsa comes down when she sings her song and he made this cake and he took so much time to figure out how to build it and and um and I saw what it meant to that little girl and what it meant to the parents and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this person is just got such a good heart.” And um okay, I’ll make you soup for the rest of my life. >> The Italian wedding soup, to be clear, that is a much more involved soup than I thought it was going to be. So, I see how the razzledazzle spread >> across the It really is. It’s a lot of prep. >> A lot of prep. I don’t know. I didn’t know what I was taking on, but it’s still something now. You know, when you’re really proud when you can make a recipe without the recipe. Yeah. >> Like when you can make a dish. And I can make that without the recipe. And I’m like, “Yes, >> that’s so awesome.” Yeah. my my wife when she and I started dating I Josh I don’t know if you’ve found this but especially like as a man it’s less expected for you to cook and so if when you can demonstrate that to me it’s always been like oh I have the ultimate ace in a hole right here you know and even in college I would like invite girls over and I would cook way too pretentious meals that they were not impressed by at all but inside my own head I was just like you’re killing it right now man she’s going to love the lamb chops with palenta and mushroom fricase on on a Friday night. Uh but when my wife and I started dating, she she was sick early on and she talked about how she loved chicken tortilla soup and I we’ actually just shot an episode at my favorite Wakan restaurant where they straight up like illegally import these beautiful toasted corn tortillas from Wajaka. And so I like saved some of those and I just got the best chicken that money could buy and like you know chilies imported from Mexico and I just put everything I had into this bowl of ornately garnished chicken tortilla soup and she like remembered it so much that it’s she eventually like made a handdrawn portrait of it uh cuz she does art and I forbid her from cooking because her razledazzle is extreme. Um there’s like a quarter cup of rice and raw chicken on the ground every time she cooks and I don’t know how it happens. >> Um yeah, but uh but yeah, so that’s like, you know, I don’t know, one of those things that uh lives forever in like the lore of our relationship. >> So in the relationship, are you more of the the person that goes behind her and puts things away? Like you know, cuz I know for the like for me like the dishwasher is like sacred to me, you know? I’m like >> you’re doing it. If you’re not doing it my way, you’re doing it wrong and you can’t do it my way. Well, what what I what I didn’t know until we were married is that Josh played Tetris like as a child was pretty good. >> He looks at the dishwasher like a game of Tetris. So, he’s like >> and I also have those grocery bags that are like the box grocery bags. So, like I prefer to bag my own groceries wherever >> he packs it like >> So, I’m like I I got it. I I can >> Josh, would you say you have control issues? And Angela, how does that make you feel? Listen, I’m not like lying like like going to bed every night being like, “Oh, can I please load the dishwasher tomorrow night?” >> Things that are very insignificant to her. >> I’m just like great. I’m like I’m like, “Babe, if if you want the dishwasher, it is all yours.” >> I enjoy. I win. >> When either of you are cooking, do you prefer to have help from the other person or do you prefer to just be left completely alone? Cuz this is >> I prefer company. >> Yes. Mhm. >> I don’t necessarily need like help help like I’d rather like I kind of have my assistance. So I I I do sometimes some if I’m have a lot of vegetables to cut or something, I’ll ask for help. But I prefer like having people with me in the kitchen. Yeah. You know, to hang out. I like to be, >> you know. >> So I’ll get a text, you know, we we sort of did that thing um where we converted the garage into like a home office kind of thing. So, I’ll be out there doing some emails and I’ll get a text from him that just says 5:00 and that means I’m starting dinner prep. Come on in. But it’s actually my favorite time because that’s if if you have a busy household and >> kids and work and everything. That’s our time as a couple where we hang out. We talk about the day. We kind of have that in the morning over cup of tea, cup of coffee, like here’s my day. But that end of the day, especially like on like a Friday, you have a glass of wine. I I put out cheese and crackers. I’m that person. >> I love that. >> And then and then we just chat and he cooks. And >> And you heard that right. 5:00. So we have dinner like at 5:30. >> Yeah. We’re >> I was going to ask that. Is that is that a kids thing or that’s just like a lifestyle change? >> Well, it it started as a kids thing. >> Kids thing and now we’re just prefer it. >> We’re senior citizens now. We just are so used to it. But you know what? You don’t go to bed full. You know that feeling where you eat late. So now sometimes we had a like a work thing the other night and the dinner started at 8 and I was like eight. >> Who are you people? >> I will be respectfully not attending as this is not >> kind of. >> While we were at the dinner my phone has the little chime at 10:30 that says this is your bedtime. I was like >> like what are we doing? >> Like this is way too late. Listen, I yearn for those days as somebody who I can feel my age just rapidly ascending roughly at the same linear rate that everyone else’s is, but I feel like I’m feeling it harder. You know what I mean? >> The other day we were shooting something and I tried to jump into frame and hurt my knee. >> And so I’m not athletic enough to film YouTube videos anymore. And so now I like yearn for the days of 5:30 dinner as we still eat at 8:00 p.m. every night. >> Oh yeah, >> couldn’t do it. Couldn’t do it. >> Tough. >> Oh, you’ll get you’ll get there, buddy. You’ll get there. hopefully, God willing. Um, I I love what you said about having somebody to keep you company in the kitchen, cuz my favorite thing to do is not talk to my wife. Well, I like talking to my wife when I’m not cooking. I love talking to my wife, but when I’m cooking dinner, I’m generally very locked in and I’m trying to like, you know, really keep everything moving, but that’s the time when she can like complain about work. If any of Julia’s co-workers are listening, she loves her job. Um, but you know, at the end of the day, she can just I think in competitive debate they call it spreading where you just say as many words as fast as possible to try and confuse your opponent and she just kind of spreads and I’m there taking it all in, letting it wash wash over me, just, you know, trying to, you know, uh, peel and chop carrots and it’s beautiful. We both get what I need. >> I love that, too. I mean, I I you like to talk, too. So, so I I do the same thing. I just kind of listen to >> I debate spread. >> I enjoy it, though. Yes. I really enjoy it. >> I’m like, let me tell you, did you see those people that moved in four doors down? I mean, I don’t know what they’re thinking with putting on a silver gate. No one has a silver gate in this neighborhood. >> Just reading the Next Door in Citizen App updates. >> Yes. >> Suspicious person walking around. What are they doing walking in this neighborhood? >> What? >> Yeah. >> All right, we got to talk about the worst first date foods. I’m a terrible podcast host and forgot to actually talk about what the podcast is about. Stop. I appreciate you. >> That’s great. Uh, do you guys have any opinions about the worst first date foods? >> You know what? So, you guys emailed us this prompt that we were going to talk about today. And I was actually cracking up at how quickly we both had very strong thoughts and I don’t think we’ve ever talked about it before really, but I told him I was like, I know what you’re going to say because one time >> I I do have a couple, but like this is this one. This one like offputting for me. Oh, for our anniversary, we usually, you know, Josh’s mom is so lovely. When the kids were younger, she’d come out, watch the kids, and um we would go to drive up to wine country. You know, it’s just like a two-hour drive and stay at a little bed and breakfast kind of thing. But we usually are trying to get out of town, so we eat lunch on the go, you know, like we’ll get sandwiches for the car ride. And we were we stopped at this little sandwich shop, and I said, “Oh, I’d love a tuna fish sandwich like on a subway.” And he was like, “I’m sorry. Are we are we not kissing later? Are we not kissing? And I was like >> or what? >> I was like I was like I mean I would brush my teeth. >> I know. But I >> He says it doesn’t m He said it lingers. >> Doesn’t smell like cat breath. >> No. >> Interesting. Like like the the tuna fish >> the cat lady smelling like cat breath. >> Something about it. I can just It lingers. >> So um no tuna fish if um there’s going to be any canoodling. >> Angela, how would you feel if he had eaten a tuna fish sandwich? I guess I would just trust him to mouthwash. I don’t know. This is a very good point. I hadn’t thought it through. >> I I would I would, but I would not eat tuna fish either. >> No, you wouldn’t. >> I’m so glad you have strong opinions about this because I have strong opinions about this as well. Um I I’ve said something similar before and our audience has gladly let me know that I’m disgusting and in the vast minority here. I have a weird pet peeve where I don’t want my romantic partner to This sounds like a fetish at this point. It’s not. I don’t want my romantic partner to mouthwash or brush their teeth before any canoodling because to me I’m like I sort of want this to be Yeah, Maggie’s literally cracking up right now. I want this to be something that’s like in the moment. We’ve both been living our full days eating the foods that we’ve wanted throughout the day. Whether it’s a roasted garlic tuna sandwich, that’s totally fine. You know why? I like roasted garlic and tuna and I love you and I love canoodling with you and your full self. Like I swear to God, it’s a an actual pet peeve if somebody like you you start to kiss and then they go one second and they come back smelling like peppermint. I’m like, “No, I want the spontaneity and the tuna.” >> I feel like this is very earthy of you. It’s very like kind of like bohemian. Uh >> he’s like, “I want to smell your smell in the morning with all the morning morning breath. Give it all to me.” >> Yes. >> Actually, yes. But I promise this is not I’m staring directly into the camera here. Promise this is not like a weird fetish because there there are those people that are like, “Hey, don’t shower for three days.” That’s not me. That’s not me at all. >> I just want you to have lived your life. And actually, >> Roy Choy, the chef, talked about this with Anthony Bourdain in the LA episode of I believe No Reservations or the layover. Again, I’m confused, but he talks about how it’s a lot more common in Korean dating culture to go for like a full night of drinking and eating like spicy garlic chicken gizzards and getting super full and then just going home and canoodling. And I like I love that so much. Roy does not speak for all Korean people, but I kind of I love that cuz I don’t know. Have y’all been in situations where if you were dating somebody, you’d go on a first date to a nice restaurant and then both of you were just completely holding back on your orders for like uh reasons of trying to be, you know, proper or trying to not smell like a certain way. >> I mean, clearly, I guess I don’t hold back. I just order what I want. >> I mean, sure. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think I I would not eat certain like Brussels sprouts or something that’s going to be really gassy, >> you know. Um I I don’t know. I just don’t like the way I feel, you know? I love I love them, but I don’t like the way I just like feel >> You’re bloating. You’re bloating through the nice shirt that you wore at the the buttons. If I’m by myself, I’m fine. You know, I’ll be I’ll be good. But like I feel >> no Brussels sprouts. I as far as like I don’t really care about um the food. But I am a little clumsy. So if depending on what I’m wearing, if if what I have to eat has several moving parts, if there’s a tiny fork and I have to pick something out or take legs off something or like have different utensils, it might I might end up wearing it. It’s part of the razledazzle. um >> that I it happens on myself. >> I think you should just wear the plain white shirt and then just go to town and then it’s almost like a Jackson Pollock painting. >> Exactly. >> Again, that’s I guess that’s very crunchy and earthy of me as well. >> No, wear the Chinese hot pot all across. >> Wear it all. Get it in our bed. It’s going to be so awesome to be >> I I was So I I mentioned No, I’m not going to bring up my ex again. Um, but I was in like a six-year relationship from like 21 to like 27. And so I had never dated in like the adult dating world, uh, like since college. And suddenly I was thrust into it. And I was like, I don’t really know how to do this. Um, but I decided very early on that going to a restaurant, food is such a big part of my life and so are restaurants that I wasn’t going to hold anything back because at this point I’m trying to find a person that wants to be with me for for me and all true self. Yeah. >> All of my disgusting habits. And so I like to call the first date a stress test where it’s like, “Hey, we’re going to get crab legs. You’re gonna see how this is going to go. We’re eating like Korean again with the Korean uh fermented chili crab. You know, I need to see how you react to this because this is going to be a big part of our lives. And I did have one person I went on a date with go, >> oh, so food is like your thing. And I went like, get out. I’ll pay. Just we don’t we don’t have to finish this. We can we can stop. >> It’s over. It’s over. >> Yeah. I’m I’m an adventurous eater. I mean, I grew up in Indonesia and um >> uh I I was really excited. We went back there with our kids last summer and um >> they were like trying foods that aren’t, you know, normally in our diet and um they did great. >> They did. I mean, there’s a few times we went to like some street some street food that we had the prawn on a, you know, the legs on the stick. That was so good though. It was so good. I’m just like picking it apart. >> She’s like, >> that’s I had no idea you grew up in Indonesia until I I read it in the book. When did you move to the US? um when I was 14. >> That’s like a proper upbringing. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So I moved to Jakarta when I was two and um so that’s my whole childhood is is Southeast Asia. >> That’s Do you ever like uh cook Southeast Asian food? >> Yes. Actually, so when when we went there, I was telling the kids a few of the dishes I sort of grew up on and one of them was nasorang, which is it means fried rice, right? And I we just had it all the time. And um when we went there, they loved it. Absolutely loved it. And um when we got back home, Josh was like, “I think I can make this, but we didn’t have uh I don’t know. You didn’t have like all the like a walk or so.” So you made it on a sheet pan. >> Yeah. Well, I just made a sheet pan cuz I love sheet pan. >> He loves anything on a sheet pan. >> I do have a walk. You just don’t >> Oh, he we do. >> It’s not anywhere you would. >> You know what? Here’s the thing. >> I do have it. >> If it’s If it’s up high, I’m not going to see it. >> There’s lots of things you don’t know about. He’s a lot taller than me and everything is up high. So, I’m just like I guess that’s in the the >> I don’t know place. >> Yeah. My my secret beans are literally up uh >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. But he made this uh fried rice in on a sheet pan and it’s so good and the kids love it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It was good. And they ate nasi goring probably like every meal. It was it was >> when we were in Indonesia, they loved it. >> They loved it. >> I I do think nasi goring is like the world’s best fried rice. Like we actually did an episode where we cook fried rice from all around the world and like Indonesian food it’s it’s the fourth largest country on earth and we have so little of it in LA which >> you know I always think of LA as you can travel the entire globe within the city. >> I know >> but there’s not that much. >> There’s not there was there was a restaurant in I think Culver City for a while. I don’t know if it’s still there but you know depending where you live in LA it’s like so like in traffic it takes so long. >> Talking about Sangong Sang Asia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think yes. >> I loved it. I I used to go I went to UCLA and I used to to go there because we were in West LA and then I ended up on my 30th birthday having it in Venice and >> frankly I don’t advocate binge drinking but I was too drunk to read and the font on the menu at Sangong is is very um ornate and uh a lot of the Indonesian foods wasn’t super familiar with. Uh and so I just told the chef to quote me up. Um, and yeah, and and it was just one of the best meals of my life. Uh, this dude just sending out anything. We handed him a credit card and said, don’t know how much he charged us, but we were so happy. >> Oh gosh. Yeah, >> that’s amazing. >> Oh, it’s making me want to go there. I hope it’s still there. >> Uh, as of roughly three years ago, if my math is correct, uh, it was still there unless I inadvertently shut it down. >> Unless you closed it down. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think we were pretty respectful, but >> Yeah. I think so much of like the what foods to eat on a date comes down to are you trying to present the best version of yourself or are you trying to present the real version of yourself? >> And I’m curious where you two come down on that spectrum, especially in the early stages of dating. >> Well, it’s it’s been so long, I think, since we’ve actually dated that uh you know, I would say like you like for you too. I uh when I when I first started dating, yeah, it was probably like I wanted to >> an enhanced version of myself, you know, I wanted to clean things up and make sure I was >> doing the right things. >> But I think part of me actually is that way anyway, >> you know, like I >> I find that I >> I’m thoughtful about the other person. I feel like I I I think more about like, you know, I want to make sure that they have a good experience. you know, it’s less about me, but more about them. So, I don’t want to like do anything. You know, it makes me happy to have them have a happy experience. Does that make sense? >> Yeah, that’s very true. For sure. Yeah. I I feel like when I met Josh, you know, um I was just my pretty much my fully realized self, you know, and it >> uh we were older when we met and um had sort of worked out some of the stuff that you’re trying to figure out in your 20s that spill over into your 30s and um I felt really good about myself, where I was at just in life at that time. And so I think I brought that into meeting him of just kind of like this is who I am and uh you get what you get. There’s >> Yeah. >> And I I hope you like it cuz I’m I’m good with it. >> Well, we also both had you know we both had kids, you know, it’s different when when >> we we we were living for them at that point, too. So even looking >> Yeah. >> for a partner, you know, so it just happened so organically >> and um Yeah. I don’t know. Yeah. >> But food was a big part of our our whole courtship really. >> Yeah. >> Um just cuz our kids went to preschool together so I’d be constantly bringing >> stuff over >> treats and things and she’d bring me soup once you know and that was >> and and I think too just um you know when you’re when you’re dating and and uh you have kids a lot of our dates just were in our kitchen because >> we couldn’t you know go out. So, we would just be hanging out in the kitchen together. And it’s it’s no surprise to me that that’s where we still reconnect after all these years. >> Yeah, that’s so beautiful. I think anytime somebody talks about food in dating, the the food is always just uh it’s a metaphor. It’s like a microcosm. It’s are you listening to what your partner actually wants and needs, and are you communicating that right back? And sometimes what your partner wants and needs smells like tuna. And I think that’s beautiful. [Music] >> Fall is the perfect season to invest in yourself. 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There’s always pieces of lettuce that are too big or the dressing is too drippy or there’s an ingredient you can’t get on your fork without either propelling it away or having to spoon it onto the fork. It just stresses me out so much. >> Great communicative writing with intonation there by Jesse. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh, Jesse, I would say order what you like to eat. Order what makes you happy. And I do love a salad. If you love a salad, order a salad. But, um, yeah, you’re right. Sometimes you try to put a fork in a crouton and it shoots across the restaurant. But >> I would say a tip if you do want to order a salad, if that’s what you like, is just to get the dressing on the side, too. >> You know, cuz because when cut up that lettuce and that, you know, splatters and stuff. So, if you can just dip it what you want in your fork and then you know, >> but honestly, Jesse, eat what you want to eat. >> Let them know who you are. >> Get the burger. >> Get the burger. Get the burger is like the absolute metaphor for dating. It’s funny. If I went on a date with somebody and I saw them cut up their salad and dip it into their dressing individually. I’m not saying it’s a complete disqualifier, >> but I do. Josh >> Josh, I don’t I just don’t think we’re compatible. I think we have a lot of similarities, a lot of things in common. >> You never know. >> I just don’t know if we should date. Um, but man, that’s so funny. >> Tidy, very tidy, messy. >> As we’ve discussed, I am just completely disgusting. And I again would be my full self. I love a I just love a wet salad, something that’s just covered in some sort of like ranchy goodness and I just shove it in my face and it just paints the corner of my mouth and you’re going to have to deal with it. But I get it. A lot of pressures on a date to order. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, this is a good one from PB and Nutella. Great combo. The worst thing to order on a first date is that third drink. >> Oh, agree. Agree. >> I don’t know. >> Josh Josh is here. Josh is here. >> I mean, it depends what stage in my life it was. I mean, now that’d be a terrible idea. Uh, >> you just get tired. >> I just get tired. Fall asleep. But, you know, I don’t know. Sometimes it depends where you’re at, you know, because I think the first day can be a little nerve-wracking, you know, and so >> sometimes it takes a few to loosen up depending on your tolerance. >> Also, three drinks is very different for some people versus others. >> True. >> Like, you know, not to be the the reformed frat guy with a heart of gold. I was never actually in a frat, but >> 20-year-old Josh is a a lot different than, you know, whatever I am now. >> You used to have found him. But I I will say you can tell a lot about somebody by how they drink on a date. And I will never forget in my brief single adult dating period, I showed up to a date and this person had gotten there like 20 minutes early and they were already on their third drink before I showed up. >> And they had the empty drinks on the table >> as I showed up and I was like, “Oh, something’s a miss.” Um, and then yeah, we dated for like four weeks and it was uh one of the most chaotic periods of my life. But again, that was 20’s that was 20’s job. >> Yeah, sure. >> You gota do that before you get to the restaurant. >> You got to find before you go. Then >> they wouldn’t even know. >> You make yourself one drink while you’re getting ready trying to figure out your hair, looking at YouTube tutorials. >> Yeah. >> And then on your way out, as you’re going to see the Uber, you run back to your bar, take a swig. >> Sure. >> And then you go. >> Yeah. you. Okay, we’re back. >> Terrible idea. >> Public service announcement. Do not listen to 20some Joshes. >> That’s a uh actually probably a very universal truth if we’re being honest. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Our name attracts a personality type. And and I’ll leave it at that. >> Um here we go. Isi123. Edomame when you’ve only ever had it served shelled before. This person’s This is a baby shoes never worn situation. So edetomame when you’ve only ever had it shelled. So this person has never encountered edetamame in the shell. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> And something must have happened >> like at a restaurant like you just have it shelled ready to like spoon. >> I guess like if you’ve had like if you go to like a poke restaurant and they’ll just like throw >> loose edamame on there. >> That’s true. >> But like encountering a food that you’ve never eaten before on a date. >> That’s actually an interesting conundrum. >> Yeah. I mean, I love edetamame shelled because it’s salty on the outside and oh, it’s so good. But yeah, a food you’ve never had before. >> It might be like the etiquette thing with it, you know, like where are you discarding? Like how do I do this? Do I, you know, do I take the them out first and then put them in? >> Yeah. Do you just scrape your teeth? >> I scrape the teeth. >> It’s It’s kind of like uh the What’s the Can’t think of the artichoke, too. >> Oh, >> I remember the first time I had an artich choke at a restaurant. I was like, I don’t know. What do I do with it? >> Do I eat the spikies? >> Do I? >> Yeah. >> Do I eat the whole thing or do I scrape it off? You know, I had no idea. >> The first time I had sushi at a restaurant, I picked up the whole green wasabi and put it in my mouth >> cuz I thought it was >> champion. >> I thought it was part it was in a little container and I literally thought I was going to pass out, but I was like my eyes were watering. I could not get enough like like to drink. I was like, “Ah, >> yeah. Not a bad idea if you’re going to a spot that might have edeteamame or wasabi and you’re not familiar. Might be worth a Google. >> Yeah, might be worth a Google. >> Maybe ask somebody before you scoop it up. >> There’s actually, you know, there’s so much information now about, you know, I feel like there’s no excuse. You got to look it up. >> Yeah, 100%. >> I will say I I was not on a date. I was with my brother and he and I are both really really into food and we went to a restaurant where they had a special that was like whole grilled fava beans in the shell. It was like a nice fancy restaurant. but hipster to where they would just serve whole grilled fava beans in the shell. And they serve them and they look like giant edamame. I’d never seen fava beans in the shell. And we asked the server, >> “Hey, do we do we eat the shell or we take the beans out?” And they go, “Uh.” And that pause let me know that they weren’t confident. And they go, “Some people eat the shell.” And we said, “That’s good enough for us.” And so we’re eating the shells and we’re like, “Tastes good. It’s a little stringy.” And then the chef comes out and just looks at our plate of eaten shells and goes, “Oh no.” And we went, “Oh no.” >> Um, yeah. Turns out we weren’t supposed to eat the shells. I was like, “They’re they’re kind of hairy if I’m being honest.” >> Oh my gosh. >> Did you have some issues later? >> I think I’ve eaten I think I’m like a goat at this point where I’ve just eaten so much garbage. Oysters from shopping carts. Chicken sashimi. I’ve done it all. It’s indestructible. >> Chicken sashimi. Ah. >> Yeah. You don’t need to find it. There’s one spot that serves it illegally down in Torrance. It’s just fine. I have to go with the worst thing on our first date being very rich frozen custard. It was a stand with no bathroom nearby. Let’s just say I never forgot the panic of that evening. This is about knowing your body and how it responds to foods on dates. >> Oh, I mean, yeah, that probably didn’t work out well later, right? >> I I can’t imagine it did. Um, but Josh, you were talking about uh avoiding beans on dates or or anything Brussels sprouts. >> Yeah, just just anything that would make me like gassy. Yeah, for sure. Wait, was it frozen custard? Did you? >> This is frozen custard. I’m guessing they are one of the the growing lactose intolerant community. >> Right. Right. >> Got it. Um, yeah. I mean, >> I I don’t know. You got to avoid that, right? I mean, you got to not put yourself in a situation. >> There’s got to be like a like a sorbet place. I was say a lot of places have great vegan options now. >> Yeah, great vegan >> options. I think he kind of >> know your body. Know your body. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I did um I think the only truly bad date I’ I’d ever been on um God bless my date. She had she had IBS and I didn’t know that. And um it had already been going really really poorly. Um, this is a person that I I just met at the gym and I found out that both being into lat pull downs is not a good foundation for a relationship, but she did have great form. Uh, but anyways, we I’m like at this point I’m trying to kind of nuke the date. I’m trying to indicate that this is going poorly and we don’t have anything in common. Um, but I didn’t have the courage just to say, “Hey, I think we should go our separate ways.” Um, and at some point she kind of like just goes, “I have to go to the bathroom.” and she grabs her purse and puts it over her shoulder and storms out. And I wait eight minutes to like, you know, see if she’s coming back or if that was her just ghosting and leaving the date, which is totally fair play at that point because I was trying to nuke the conversation. But she left her jacket and so 8 minutes had passed and so I grab her jacket and I walk it up to the host stand to say, “Hey, my date left but forgot her jacket. If she comes back, this what she looked like.” But as I’m taking her jacket up to the host stand, she walks out of the bathroom now 10 and a half minutes later because I did put my my timer on, which I guess says more about me than this person. Um, and then she goes, “Are you trying to steal my jacket?” And I said, “Are you were you pooping on the date? What’s going on? I’m very confused.” Um, and then we parted. So the point is life happens on dates. >> Yeah, >> life happens. Oh my gosh. >> And I was trying to steal her jacket. It was nice. It was leather. Yeah, leather jacket. >> I wanted the jacket. It was all about the jacket. >> This is during soup season in LA. It was the six weeks. It was cold. You can actually wear a jacket. It was wonderful. >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. No, I think you just have to like not take a risk with food on a date maybe that you know could not go well for your body. If you have an allergy, this is not the time. >> Yeah. >> You know, if like things have not gone well for you before with that food group, don’t do it. Um, I’m all for trying new foods, but know know your body and let’s You know what? On a first date, not a safe space. You don’t know the other person. If you’re going to need to go to the bathroom for eight minutes, you got to do it with someone you love. >> Truly. Truly. Because they might steal your jacket. >> They might try to steal your jacket. >> All right. This is an interesting one from Max B. Laflair. Ordering anything from the kids menu. If y’all were on a date with somebody and they ordered >> No, I didn’t. Now it feels like I’m attacking you specifically, Angela, and I feel bad. >> No, >> it it doesn’t bother me, honestly. It’s cheaper usually, so that’s always nice. >> Um, here here’s the thing. I So, on the set of The Office, our amazing um caterer, Sergio, um, you know, sometimes the the portions would be kind of big for me. So I would say like I would order a breakfast burrito but I would say can I have half of it because I don’t want to waste it right? I don’t want to waste it. So it became a thing that you could order anything on the menu on the set of the office and say but I want it Angie size and that funny >> that’s what he called it. That meant half a quesadilla half a hamburger Angie size. So I I tend to like I’m not a big person you know. I’m a I’m So I like the the smaller like burgers and the smaller like >> and sometimes the kids when you has you know it’s like the same thing like >> I don’t do it all the time. Josh definitely at like a burger >> y’all are married like I and both of you seem to have you know great communication about this. But you go out with a dinner of five to a restaurant, you know, and the kids are off the kids menu and my wife is. I’m like, “This is not a bad >> I’m not always I’m not always on the menu.” >> I was say there been a situation like I’m okay with this. Like Bill is like >> definitely for me breakfast or like a burger type place. I love a kids menu because like I don’t need four pancakes. I’m good with two pancakes >> and I don’t need the giant burger. Like I’m good with the kids burger. You don’t only order off the kids menu, but you invented the kids menu on the set of The Office. >> I guess I did. >> That’s incredible. I did. >> Sergio just uh, you know, threw away the half tortillas that he know didn’t use. >> No, he didn’t. He reused them for other things. >> These tortillas are living on a farm now and they’re >> doing half a tortilla. I don’t >> I never thought about that. >> I didn’t mean to start a fight here. Um, Angela and Josh, y’all are absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for joining me today. Check out their book. You can make this. You got anything else to plug? >> No, just our cookbook. We love it. It’s got like all kinds of amazing recipes. >> And um speaking of Brussels sprouts, it’s got a honey sriracha brussel sprout that is amazing. >> Oh, hell yeah. >> And it’s got a tons of like our just little family moments that our family, you know, our f our, you know, blended family kind of >> they grew up on, you know, that that we make in the house. Look at these beautiful cupcakes >> and still make >> lots of desserts, >> lots of side dishes, dinners, >> stories and pictures and all that fun stuff >> and really really great recipes. Josh worked for years on these. These are the ones we make all the time and really good. >> Yeah, this No, I can tell like how much love, how much effort went into this, how much you both really believe in it and how much it means to you and that really is awesome to see. >> Of course. Of course. >> Well, thanks so much. It was so nice to meet you. I feel like we need to go go to Culver City and get some nasi goring. >> I would actually really love that. That’d be fantastic. Can my wife can my wife gum? >> Yes. >> And then we can all brush our teeth after. >> No, >> we’re not going to brush our teeth. >> I’ll die before my wife brushes her teeth. >> Uh to all you listeners, thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich. We got audio only episodes every Wednesday and a video version here on YouTube every Sunday. If you want to be featured on the Opinions or like casserles, give us a ring at 833 DogPod 1. on Angel and Josh. You can also call 833 DogPod 1. It’s a really unexpected voice message. We’ll see youall next time. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Bye. >> Good Mythical Evening is blasting off on October 23rd at 1000 p.m. Eastern, 700 p.m. Pacific. So, get your tickets now at good mythicaling.com.