I love my post-workout smoothies, but should I switch it up? >> Yeah. What’s wrong with a post-workout pizza? >> What about pizza smoothie? >> Ew. >> This is a hot dog is a sandwich. >> Ketchup is a smoothie. >> Yeah, I put ice in my cereal. So what? >> That makes no sense. >> A hot dog is a sandwich. >> A hot dog is a sandwich. >> What? >> Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates. I’m your host, Josh Sher. >> And I’m BNA Austin. And you and I are uh we’re the resident athletes of the mythical office, right? Everybody else in here, they all they were all theater kids. They >> artists, you know, >> as the laugh comes from the peanut gallery over here. But no, no, no. I think when our audience watches us, they’re looking to us for premium sports and fitness advice. >> Is that true? That’s nice to me. >> If it’s true, leave a comment below. But that’s kind of what we’re talking about today. Cuz listen, you and I, we’re both morning dogs. We’re waking up. We’re hitting the gym while it’s still dark outside >> and we’re coming in here. Um, you and I are both >> also the biggest breakfast makers in the kitchen. >> I haven’t been eating breakfast until 12:00 p.m. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz you switched to to intermittent fasting recently. >> Yes, I the last four weeks. I’m doing it for 3 months just to see how my gut does, but I wanted to kind of redirect my gut health a little bit. And I was just overindulging and eating too much at work specifically. You know how that goes. So, I taking a break. I’m taking a break and I’m doing intermediate fasting and it’s uh drastically different than what I’m used to. >> Now, so today we’re talking about like what are the best and worst things to eat postworkout, but you’ve been eating nothing post-workout. How have you like felt different in your energy levels? >> I actually have more energy in the morning when I get to work. Who says that? Who doesn’t? >> It’s so weird. But I’ll usually just drink a crap ton of water, tea, and some bone broth in between this and 12:00 p.m. I usually get up about 5:30, 6 a.m. to go work out. And then I don’t eat anything, just all liquids until 12. And I just have this weird burst of energy when I get to work. And I’m like, “Okay, let me do this, this, and this, and this.” And then I start having scatter brain. And as soon as I eat at 12:31 p.m., I hit this weird crash of like yawning and just exhausted. And then my energy comes back. Like now I already hit my low. Now I’m back up again. >> It’s really weird. But it’s been consistent the last two weeks. >> That’s strange. I So knowing what I generally know about nutrition science, I’ve read all the studies and whatever. You know, they talk about like optimal protein uh intake for muscle synthesis. And there’s a lot of rumors out there of like you’ve probably heard this like don’t eat more than 30 grams of protein in a serving because your body can’t digest it. >> I don’t follow those rules. >> No. And they’re not actually rules. They’re they’re sort of paraphrasing random studies. Um, but what I’ve been doing for the last like several years, at least trying to and probably doing it with like 65% accuracy, which is good enough for my own fitness goals. But I’ll like eat five meals a day at like four and a half meals a day. So, I wake up and immediately at like 5:45 in the morning, I’m eating a 20 gram of protein protein bar and then I go work out and then I get here at like 9:00 and I make my protein shake that I make every morning. >> You’ve been eating a lot more lately. I’ve noticed that. like your approach is OD crazy right now. >> I have been I’ve been lifting a lot more. Like last year I was kind of trying to like trim down, focus on cardio and now I’m like let’s see if I can get a bench back up to 300. Um and every time I >> just for pride issues. >> No, let’s talk about what what is what is fitness for? But not like fitness because if you wanted to be fit, you would like be walking a lot and doing yoga and doing cardio, but like I know you’re out there lifting. >> I am. I’ve been lifting less and doing more workouts like that. Walking, Pilates at 6:00 a.m. And I’m on like hot girl workouts right now. I call them hot girl LA workouts. >> Yeah, they are. They really are LA workouts. >> But when I am lifting the three to two times a week, I’m going very heavy >> and not a lot of reps. So, I’ve kind of switch I’m trying to switch it up while I’m intermittent fasting because I’m worried that my body doesn’t have the right nutrition that it needs while I’m intermittent fasting and I don’t want to pass out. So, I am trying to figure it out still of eat enough, but I can tell my stomach shrank so I don’t eat as much as I used to and I’m not like I get full faster. I’m not as hungry. So, I’m trying to I’m in this weird spot of trying to figure it out. But when I am lifting, it is heavy and just less reps and like less time. But I still feel just as strong. So, I don’t know. My body’s doing weird stuff right now. >> It’s so funny when you get like like you and I both went to to college for sports, you know, and I think you get certain ideas ingrained in you that are like very normal. Like for me, when you said something like, “Yeah, I’m like not lifting as much cuz I’m not eating as much and I don’t want to pass out.” That’s super normal for me to hear. But I think like general population is like, “Oh, that’s that’s horrifying.” Yeah. >> And I’m like, “No, that’s just like a fat.” Like I I’ve >> I’ve blacked out in the weight room and and woken up covered in my own vomit. That was super normal for me for a certain time. No, no, no, no. >> I’ll tell you actually what happened is the only time it’s ever happened. It kind of freaked me out. But we were front squatting like super he So you talk about um not doing as many reps and lifting heavier. All of weightlifting is functions of like what is it? It’s frequency, intensity, and volume. volume, frequency. Yeah, volume, frequency, and intensity. So, it’s like how often you’re working out, how many reps are you doing, and how heavy are those reps? And you can play with those numbers. So, you can lift twice a week, very, very heavy, with low reps, or you can lift six days a week like I do, with lower weight, but a lot higher volume. But, we were in a high volume training period in the offseason in track in college. >> I would say this had to have been during track cuz they were doing a crazy workouts, a lot of cleans, >> so many cleans. And front squat’s part of the clean, right? catch it here. And so front squat, for people who don’t know, instead of putting the barbell on your back, you kind of like put it on your fingertips, rest it on your shoulders near your collarbone, jack the elbows up, >> and squat down with it. But we were doing sets of 12. And I was doing it with probably, I think it was 130 kilos, so 286 lbs. And I was doing sets of 12. And I get to like the seventh rep, and my wrists start to sort of give out. So I roll the bar deeper onto my collarbone, and it starts pressing against my throat. But that was the only way that I could keep my my hands locked in. And so I was like, “You only got like four more reps. Just do it.” And I couldn’t really breathe. And so I hit the last rep. >> And I remember not feeling great. And I just kind of threw it back into the rack. And then the world went dark and I woke up on my back covered in my own vomit. Um that was super normal. So we >> just throw up in your sleep like I think. So yeah. >> Yeah. I probably should have gone to a hospital or something. Um and but the vomit was also it was a lot of um diet wild cherry Pepsi mixed with Nes Cafe instant coffee. >> Oh well no. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it wasn’t like you know I think it was just a volume thing cuz that was our pre-workout back then. But the point is athletes of which we are too. >> Don’t do that. Track people don’t do that. >> Highly tuned athletic machines over here. You know a lot of things that don’t seem uh uh normal to general population. >> Yeah. They’re like what? You’re crazy. you go to Pilates three times a week at 6:00 a.m. 5:00 a.m. I’m like, “Yeah, I go before shoot days.” Like, that’s how I get my day going. >> Trying to get my bench back up to 300 lb. Why? It’s like, why not? It’s like a hobby for me. It’s like somebody uh quilting, you know? >> Somebody’s like, “I really want to make a quilt to give somebody.” You’re like, “Why are you doing that?” Like, it’s fun for me. >> Um, okay. I know not absolutely nobody who quilts. >> You don’t know anybody who quilts? >> No. >> We should get into quilting. >> We should. Should we join a club? >> I don’t know, man. Once I get once I get my bench back to 300, >> then I’ll hang out with old you and the old ladies and quilt. >> Okay, >> but I need to bench 300 first. The problem is every time I get close to it, I’ll get to like I got to like 295 last time >> and then I went to go for 300 and then like my shoulder just like gave out and I was like, “Ah.” And then I had to go back down and then now I’m back to like 285 and I’m trying to get back up there. >> See, that’s me. And um since I had knee surgeries, I can’t run more than two miles. Like physically cannot. The day I get to two and a half and three miles, that’d be amazing. But once I hit a mile and a half on concrete, I’m over it. I I’m like, I’m cool walking the rest of the way. >> But like I I guess I didn’t realize how much you actually use what your workouts are to inform your diet. But I guess I do too, which is why I’m eating, you know, I have like five different protein feedings throughout the day. And but like this looks very normal for me. So like uh for lunch today, right? We’re eating some Elpoo Loco grilled chicken. >> You had extra chicken after. I had extra. Oh, and then I ate another >> You ate another piece of chicken. Said, “Who chicken is this?” >> I found a whole chicken lying around the kitchen catch it and I was like, >> “Family chicken. Go ahead. >> I didn’t get enough chicken.” But yeah, that’s like, you know, grilled spicy chicken is my favorite food in the world other than burritos. I got a lot of favorite foods in the world, but grilled spicy chicken, it’s up there. Uh, but like, you know, we just like eat an extra chicken like and that’s another like 15 16 grams of protein right there. >> Yeah, >> that’s really easy. >> Okay, so we got Okay, we got to circle back to what we eat after we work out. So, don’t eat before, but we eat right after. I don’t eat after. I already said that. But, um, normally when I do eat, I try to eat a lot of vegetables and a lot of protein, like just straight broccoli and chicken and eggs and steak. Like today, I had a whole bowl of steak and eggs. Shout out Kobe cuz he made me steak. >> Oh, I saw that steak. I almost grabbed a piece, but I was like, “No, I don’t want to steal it from you all.” >> And my protein and my muscles. Josh, >> there there is a fair amount of science about like what you should eat directly after a workout, but again, all this depends on what your actual goals are. >> You know what I mean? So, for me, like I don’t believe in a low carb diet when I’m training really heavy. >> I think your body sort of like needs those carbs to refuel. I know a lot of people do keto, carnivore, whatever. But for me, like a post-workout simple carbohydrate, you know, even if that’s just like a couple bananas, that’s my favorite thing to do. And if you eat fatty foods, I believe it actually like slows the digestion of it. >> Oh, really? In a way. >> Why I’m really sleepy after, >> dude? It could be. It could be. >> But I feel like I don’t know. It’s tough for me cuz I have We all have our own body dysmorphia and body issues. >> Yeah, we really do. >> But I’ve been wanting to reset my gut health a lot lately cuz I noticed how bloated I was getting very quickly with anything I ate. It could have been like carbs, no carbs, it was anything. So me resetting that I think just helped my brain be like, “Okay, force yourself to drink more water. Force yourself to eat just vegetables and chicken.” And then I feel good and have a lot of energy. I naturally don’t eat candy or sweets or like munch on a whole bunch of chips and stuff. So >> I was eating a Twix when I walked in this room. >> You know what? >> It was a little stale. It kind of wasn’t. You know, it’s cold in here. >> It was gross. It had been sitting out for like three days, didn’t it? >> It was a while. Um, but yeah, I heard like you kind of have to stick to like no fast food, like no sugary junk food, no alcohol. Okay, I wanted to bring this up because there’s a gym bro that I follow. I actually went to high school with him and he always preaches about drinking beer after workouts. >> No, that’s crazy. Why? >> I think it’s just a way to replenish your body. >> No. Okay, so >> it’s made up of what? Water and carbs, right? >> Water and carbs. But then Yeah, the alcohol like lemonade. Lemonade is water and carbs, you know, >> but they he thinks that you can get away with it if you do want to have a drink after your workout, which is so funny cuz I mentioned this to Lily earlier today and she said she loves beer after her workouts and I’m like, what? There’s no way that’s a real thing. >> Well, no, there’s actually No, so it used to be a real thing um back in I remember reading this about like cyclists in the 1800s. So like competitive cycling was a big thing. God, the bicycle probably wasn’t invented that that much uh longer ago, but it was like the 1890s. The Belgians had the best cyclists in the world. And I think there’s still a big cycling culture in Belgium. They also brew maybe the best beer in the world. And so this there was this dominant Belgian cycling team, and the coach of it was like, “The reason they’re winning, I can’t do a Belgian accent, but he’s like, “The reason they’re winning is because they drink strong Belgian beer after their workouts, cuz beer is like liquid breades you.” >> Das boot >> in dos boot. But like scientifically, no. Alcohol completely kills your recovery. They just happen to be very good at cycling and they happen to drink a lot of Belgian beer. >> Yeah. It dehydrates you. >> It dehydrates you. It’s protein synthesis. Um no, if I lift really heavy, like if I lift really heavy and then I go out and drink that night, 100% I’m waking up sick the next day. >> It’s so funny cuz um me and my boyfriend Kenny have this theory that if we are going to go drink that day, we have to work out either right right before or the next morning. We always say if we’re going to drink tonight, we have to go work out first. >> That’s a mental thing. That’s a mental thing. I don’t think there’s any physiological benefit, but I agree. >> Sure. There has to be a science in that some >> I I believe strongly in the this is pseudocience in like the sweat it out method. >> Yeah. You know, you drink, you wake up and you just like put your damn shoes on. >> You go running and then you sit in the sauna and you sweat out all that liquor after. >> Speaking of sweating it out, I was really curious to see how my workout habits actually like show up in the data. So, check this out. Check this out. Not to brag, but I got a 95 activity rating out of 100. Say that’s optimal. And I burned,300 calories actively. And then with my basal metabolic rate, that’s like 3,900 calories. So when you talk about like how much food I’ve been eating recently, >> I’m apparently burning around 3,900 calories a day. And I took 20,000 steps and they actually break down your activity. I didn’t log any of this. This was literally the ring could tell what workouts I was doing. And then that total to me doing 46 minutes of zone one cardio, 21 of zone two, and 16 minutes of zone three. >> What does zones mean? >> So the zones have to do with like I think your your heart rate and your V2 max, but basically it’s just like intensity. >> And so the fact that, you know, I’m burning 3,900 calories a day. And this is a pretty typical workout day for me means that I do need a lot more food to refuel. And I like to do that with, you know, whole foods and a lot of protein to actually like get some gains out of that. But not only that, you can also see how it like my sleep the night before though. >> Oh yeah, this is important for you. >> This is important for me. So this this doesn’t look as good as the workouts. >> You were efficient basically what they said. >> It sounds good, but like if you look at REM sleep where you’re doing a lot of your best recovery. >> Yeah. >> So here here’s the thing about working out. Like lifting weights doesn’t gain muscle. Eating gains muscle. Lifting weights damages your muscle actually. And then it’s rebuilt with food and sleep. And so the fact that I didn’t recover super well in sleep means that maybe I have to temper the amount that I can work out. You know what I mean? >> Or you got to get more sleep. >> Well, yeah, that too, man. I’m trying. That’s the big battle here. The activity has never been the problem. It’s the recovery for me. >> Get some Z’s, Josh. Please. >> But that’s what I love about the Aura Ring, right? Like it shows you how all this is connected. The sleep, the recovery, the food, and what you’re actually burning from that. >> I need to get one. >> Honestly, dude, it shows you like a real holistic view of your health. It kind of creates a whole profile. >> That’s dope. I love it. >> So, head to aura ring.com/hotog today to make your health and wellness a daily practice. And thanks to aura for sponsoring this portion of today’s episode. So, yeah, the sweethearted out can help mentally, but like physically, I don’t know how much science there actually is behind it other than the fact that it’s probably generally pretty bad for you. >> I think it just makes me more dehydrated again. Like I’m repeating the same cycle again trying to sit in the steam room and sweat it out also. But at least my skin >> How good does it feel? It feels amazing. >> It’s like just purifying. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. It’s like, “Oh yes, I’m washing my sins away. >> The demons out. It’s getting the demons out.” You got to sweat the demons out. The demons the demons out. >> The demons are in there and they’re real and you got to sweat them out. >> Yes, that’s accurate. Josh, >> have you like either in your adult life or when you’re an athlete ever done like a weird fat diet cuz somebody told you to like a Everybody who’s ever had a strength coach >> has had a weird strength coach and they have weird ideas. Or did you ever have a normal strength coach in college? >> Yeah, I actually did. She was the best strength coach I ever had. Her name was Jessica Belzano and she was the best person ever and she was hella fit. Um, she wasn’t worried about our diets too much cuz there was nobody who was really bad at eating. But she did make us fill out a chart. I don’t know if you guys did this. We fell out a chart every week to let her know what we were eating. >> Oh, interesting. >> And how many she would calculate how many carbs it was and she’d be like, “Okay, less here, less here, less here.” And most of my charts were like cases from the cafeteria. salad. Caesar salad with too much dressing on it. There was a whole bunch of muffins in there. I’m like, “Wow.” To think back at it, I was eating so terrible in college. >> Dude, it’s it’s so funny cuz I had my first strength coach that I ever had. He was a British dude that was really into cycling. And I was like, this is when I was mostly throwing shot foot and discus, which like you got to be real big. Mass moves, mass, baby. >> You got to have big shoulders, big neck. My brother did it for a season and he was huge. Did he really? >> Yeah, he did. >> Wait, I want to look up his stats. >> I should. I got to ask them the next time if they’re on Max Preps, but I’m sure he’s sure. I’m pretty sure. They keep they keep a lot of records. >> But these like these cyclists, they wanted us big shopters to eat like cyclists and eating is all about what your own personal goals are. So, literally, they would like tell us not to eat bananas cuz they were too unhealthy. And I was like, carbs, right? Like too many carbs. Too many too many carbs. Yeah. We would raise your glycemic index, whatever. And I’m like, if you are a fitness trainer and you’re telling people that bananas are unhealthy, I think you’ve lost the plot a little bit. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> Speaking of bananas, um, have you ever seen the gym bros that stop midway through their sets to eat a banana and then they keep going with their workouts? >> There’s pre-workout. >> Is that even worth doing? Like >> there’s pre-workout, there’s post-workout, and this is intraworkout nutrition. >> I saw somebody 3 days ago have a whole pack of bananas. Okay, there’s at least four or five bananas on the same thing. And every single time he moved different sections, he would go run, he would go squat, he would go do the shoulder press, and he would have a banana in between all these. I could not believe what I was watching. And I was watching him the whole time. Just >> this guy is so fascinating. >> I feel like it’s another thing. I feel like you’ve lost the plot if you’re bringing your own bananas into a gym. You know what I mean? >> Yes. Exactly. I’m like this. You could have waited or just eat them before. I used to in high school when I was going from junior to senior year, that was when I was playing basketball and I was probably like 220 pounds. Uh, and I just lost a lot of weight from my freshman year. And so I was like lean and mean. But then I knew that I wanted to get a track scholarship. So I was like, I’m going to have to get a hell of a lot stronger. So I gained like 40 lbs from junior to senior year. And I literally I got my bench from like 225 to 335. >> You could have played football. >> I know. I could have. I just I couldn’t stand the culture of the football team at my high school and a lot of other football teams I know had like really great cultures, just not not mine. Um, but anyways, I kind of wanted to to get a scholarship despite my football coaches after I quit the team >> cuz they told me that I would it was bizarre. I like walked in as a 14-year-old to quit the football team because I couldn’t stand how weird and combative the culture was, >> you know? And I walked in, there was just a room of grown men telling me that like I was going to get diabetes and die early because I wasn’t going to play football. But coaches were saying, “Oh, there were players.” >> Coachers, coaches were saying that to me as I was telling everyone to quit. It was >> bad coaches. >> Bad coaches. But I was really fueled to like, you know, get big and strong and excel in a different sport. And somehow that led to me bringing in uh it was called the big Carl. It was Carl’s Jr.’s answer to the Big Mac. >> I was going to say this has to do with Carl’s Junior. I know it. >> They were two for $3. I didn’t have any money. I was using my like, you know, summer camp uh assistant teaching allowance money basically. And like I would buy two of those. They were 50 grams of protein each and like 700 calories each and they were two for $3. So I would spend $3 and I would get 100 grams of protein. And I would eat one of them in the gym locker room. And I remember once I brought it into the sauna >> and just ate a Carl’s Jr. double cheeseburger in between a workout. >> I don’t know if that’s good sounds good or depressing. I used to order superstars all the time with extra mayo and ketchup on it. >> Yeah. Well, it’s so funny because there there are a lot of athletes who eat really like quote unquote clean. I don’t know if I like the clean dirty terminology per se, but there’s a lot of athletes who are like, you know, they eat paleo and that means they only ate things that supposedly paleolithic man would have eaten. So, no processed grains, no processed dairy, all that kind of stuff. And then there’s some athletes who are like, I’m doing so much activity that my body is just a furnace >> and I can just put whatever I want inside of it. >> I wish I can’t do that anymore. I could do it when I was 18, 19 and it didn’t go anywhere but my thighs. But now it goes to my pansa and I’m like I got to cut back on carbs. I got to do this. But I feel like living in LA kind of messes up your diet also cuz you see a lot of other people in their >> on their like weird like oh I’m only I’m only eating green leaves this week. I’m like, you’re like, what the LA is not real. I love LA, but it’s not a real place. If only it existed in real life, you know? >> And it makes you feel like you have to be a part of that gym culture and have a certain diet and be a certain way. And that’s the only part I hate about gym culture in general. >> Yeah. But it’s it’s even funny when you say gym culture cuz like I you know, I did CrossFit for a while. >> Yeah, I do remember that. I did too. I was doing it with my dad. >> Oh yeah, you did. You did a workout. I forgot you did a workout with me. Yeah, cuz Byron was out there crossfiting at his retirement. just running the the masters. >> It does. >> But like that’s such a weird mixture of both types of people who have like very weird fringe beliefs about diet, but then also people who are like, I’m burning so many calories that you have to keep eating. >> I remember watching a dude just eat a piece of fla in in the middle of a workout. He just packed his own fla or like rice krispie treats. Because if you were just trying to replenish your body, like when I did a CrossFit competition, I literally just brought a bag of candy and in between each event, I would just eat a bunch of candy just trying to get as many calories and which are calories are like a store of energy, right? >> Interesting. I would just drink Gatorade in between my games in high school >> and that was my extra energy that I had during halftime. I would keep one very sugary flavor like fruit punch, the red one or the orange one, and then I would drink half of it and all of a sudden my energy was back. Dang, that’s so crazy to think about. Now, >> did you ever play like in high school basketball, you do like, you know, the summer leagues? You have like double headers and stuff in the summer. >> We had fall league, then there was our actual league, and then we did had a really good team. So, we went to playoffs, had state, and then we had spring league. So, non-stop, but if you were in travel ball, you didn’t do spring league. So, which was me, like I would be traveling. >> But do you ever have like multiple games in one day? >> Um, yeah, sometimes. Usually the folly games is where we used I used to have at Lynwood High School. >> Those were fun times. Um >> playing at like Colony out in like Chino. >> Yeah. I do. We used to play at Ayella, too. Yeah. Yeah. You were gonna be like, “What are these?” >> Southern California high school basketball stuff, you know, >> normal stuff. But I I have such fond memories of like you’d play a game from like, you know, 10:00 a.m. to noon or whatever and then you’d have another game at 4 or something and then you just I remember once just like going to Denny’s and when I was like 16 and just like eating like an omelette and a stack of pancakes and then just like sitting on the bench just like burping up onions and green bell peppers like >> we once went to a round table all you can eat pizza buffet. >> Shakys, we used to go to Shakys and get the what were they? The potato mojo potatoes. Mojo potatoes. Yes, we would do that uh in between our games or when my mom started like going more to our games cuz she used to work a lot before. She was like, “You’ve been feeding her all this random stuff in between the games. Byron, you can’t do that.” My mom talking to my dad. Um so then they had to switch it up and we just started sneaking it in and out like that’s much healthier. But it was so good. >> The single the single greatest post-workout food of all time. And this hearkens back to childhood. >> Filipino Olympia. really >> I will stand by because here’s the thing. Here’s the thing. Here’s the thing. Your body needs carbs, fat, and protein. >> You know, the wrapper of Olympia, that’s your carbs. It’s deep fried. It’s where you get your fat filled with little minced pork and vegetables. So, you’re getting your fiber and protein. >> It’s perfect. And also, growing up playing basketball in Southern California, >> you get someone’s Filipino titta, you know, coming to the games and she’s making a giant box Olympia for you while you got the other, you know, >> you can just eat it with your hands. >> Other people bringing orange slices or cupcakes or something. No, no, no. Not John Santana’s uh mom. She’s bringing Lubia >> and I’m eating that I’m I’m eating that like on the bench. >> Yeah. >> I have so many fond memories of like mid basketball game Lubia. >> See, once my mom uh started coming to more games, it was watermelon, but before that it was uh Capri Suns and Chips. >> The Capri Suns, man. >> Yes. The Pacific Cooler. Yeah, Pacific Cooler. That’s the best flavor. And we would have those in between games. And then we start eating watermelon. The craziest thing about drinking a Capri Sun after like a workout when you were a kid is one when you were a kid you didn’t call it a workout. You were just like playing like I was going to play basketball. >> You’d be so thirsty and then it’s the tiniest straw >> and I remember you ever seen >> and you’re like >> you see like a hamster like the whole pack. >> You know how hamsters drink water? They got the little thing that like hangs down. >> Yeah. >> That’s the Capri Sun. You’re like out of breath trying to suck it through this straw >> and you wanted to get every last drop in that you’re squeezing the crap out of your face, too. >> Yeah, I was going to say you’re like pushing it against the counter like this trying to get it out. Oh, what a day, >> dude. Talking about the the potatoes after workout. There’s a there was a famous study that was done. It was pretty recently actually where they were testing like you know they have those carbohydrate packs. They just call them like goo. It’s like >> like the dehydrated potatoes. >> No, no, no. It’s not potatoes. It’s like a >> cuz those have protein in and out. >> Sweet um gel kind of thing. They give like marathon runners. >> Gatorade gels. >> There’s Gatorade. Yeah. So Gatorade gel I think copied something that was called goo. Liquid energy. >> Oh, I’ve never seen these. >> Energy gels they call them. Yeah, Gatorade has one. Um but it’s literally just like carbohydrates. It’s like sugar and then there’s probably some electrolytes and whatever in there. >> I hate the way they spoke. But they have been like proven to increase your your cardiovascular uh your um V2 max like all of that it increases performance. But some scientists were like is that because of the energy gel or is it just do you just need food? And so they had a bunch of cyclists uh do this study where they gave half of them goo then they gave half of them just potatoes in a pouch. It’s like a yogurt of mashed potatoes. >> Oh, I was going to say >> potatoes are just like a you know it’s just carbohydrates. Uh, and then they had them switch and they both performed the same versus the control of having nothing. So they’re like, “Yeah, it’s not the stuff inside the goo. It’s just you need food, you need energy, and potatoes do just fine.” But in the notes of the study, they said several writers reported gastrointestinal distress with the potatoes. >> So they had the farts while they >> literally Yeah. They were like, they were like, “We had the farts and we’d rather not have the farts.” >> So I would just rather have the the goo energy gel. But see, if they were smart, they would use those farts as a weapon while they were playing, like a defense mechanism. >> I thought you meant to propel them forward like a jet engine type. >> That is also possible, but I was more of talking about if you’re boxing somebody out and you fart on them and then it had gets them to back up and then you grab the ball. >> Do you ever successfully do that? >> Yeah, >> I have multiple times. Yes. >> All right. At the end of the day, V, what is your best post-workout food and what is the worst? Okay, let’s see. My best one would probably be a green juice to start off with. Um, mixed with I guess it depends on what time of day. We we’ll just say how I normally do it. Breakfast. I will do that. Have a very heavy meal. I always make my first meal the heaviest. And I’ll have steak, eggs, some avocado, and then a piece of toast. That’s my best post-workout meal. My worst one. Oh man. Um, let’s see. Let’s see. Probably anything fried >> just slows you down. >> No McDonald’s, no soda, nothing super fatty, cuz then I will probably feel nauseous afterward. >> My best post-workout food at the height of my strength and athleticism, I would have been about 20 years old. And this is what I did on my heaviest lifting day every month. After a lift, I would go to a local candy store that sold candy by weight, and I would buy two full pounds of candy and a 2 liter of Mountain Dew. This is dead serious. >> I knew you were going to say something so ridiculous. >> I would drink Yep. Oh, correct. I would drink uh two scoops of protein powder to get, you know, my 50 grams of protein and then I would probably eat 200 grams of sugar >> with milk. >> What? >> With milk? >> No, with the Mountain Dew. I would just eat candy and drink Mountain Dew on my couch probably watching uh you know, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia with my roommates. And I swear to God, that was literally the strongest and most athletic that I had ever been. Worst post-workout food, >> salad. >> Really, >> you don’t need It’s not energy dense enough. >> It’s not heavy enough. >> It’s not heavy enough >> to repair you. >> Salad is boring. >> Salad is boring. Eat candy. >> All right, V. We’ve heard what you and I have to say. Now, it’s time to find out what other wacky opinions rattling out there in the universe. It’s time for a little segment we call >> opinions are like casserole. Uh, I forgot I used to do Okay, so the weirdest diet that I did for post-workout food was after um every workout I was trying to eat 500 grams of protein a day. So, it’s because we found an old Russian training manual, might have been on the dark web, it was Soviet, I don’t remember, but they thought that you should eat, I think it was 5 gram of protein per kilo of body weight. So me and some of my teammates started doing it which means that at like 260 lbs I was eating about 500 grams of protein. Um and I did it lasted for about 3 weeks and I felt so sick. But I really the breaking point was when I creeped out my roommates because uh they walked in on me and I was just eating a 2 lb brick of salmon just sitting on the couch. >> Josh, are you okay? >> Uh now I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But um I do not recommend 500 grams of protein a day. That was tough. And the candy and Mountain Dew work just fine. I would be constipated. >> If you think I have extreme eating habits now, you should have you should have seen me back then, dude. >> I don’t think I would have wanted to. >> It was great. All right, let’s see what other people are talking about. >> Okay. >> Hello, Josh, Nicole, and Maggie. >> Quite a spicy voicemail you got there. >> I got a bit of a spicy question for you. And by spicy, I mean literal. >> Is gumbo just wet jumbolaya? I’ve had this debate with a couple of people now when I describe gumbo as wet jumbolaya or jumbolayia as dry gumbo. And apparently there’s a nuance that I happen to be missing uh between the two recipes. I mean, in my opinion, I eat a gumbo. It’s just a soupy jumboa. It’s got the rice, it’s got the Andwei sausage, and then whatever else you have to throw in there, Cajun spices, what have you. And then jumbolaya is just the gumbo minus the wet. >> I don’t know. Am I wrong? Love to hear your guys’ opinion. Thanks. >> Okay, so jumbolaya and gumbo I definitely think are the same thing. Well, they have the same exact things in them, but gumbo is the stew and then jumbo is just the rice. >> Yeah, but like you can sort of talk about any food in these terms. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Like uh I don’t know like a what’s like an Italian I’m trying to think of like an Italian sort of version of this, you know? It’s just like a ravioli is just like filled spaghetti or or whatever. Like everything is just the X of Y if you think about it. Right. >> Right. But if you like trace the roots of like gum like gumbo and and jambalaya literally both go back to West African cooking. So like jambalaya is it’s jalof. It’s literally jalof. >> Is it jalof or jolaf? >> I’ve been saying jalof. I don’t know. >> It might be jolaf. I could be wrong too. Anyway, >> but but like either way like jolaf rice, right? Like it’s jumbolaya takes its roots from that. It’s like a red kind of like cooked rice dish with a bunch of aromatics. >> Yeah. Cuz the rice and gumbo if you put it in there just thickens it up the same way. It turns it into jumbolaya. >> But but like jumbolaya is like cooked together. Cuz like gumbo you would traditionally serve like gumbo is >> the the soup, the stew, the the you know thing. And so much of West African cooking is like stew based, right? Like you Nigerian food, you eat like the agusi with the stew or the fufu or sorry you eat the fufu with the agusi. It’s like a stew and starch and then there’s like rice dishes that are sort of separate. So like gumbo is the stew and gumbo is a West African word for okra. >> Um yeah. So >> which is also in there. >> Yeah. So when people say okra gumbo it’s like kind of redundant. It’s like saying chai tea or ATM machine. >> You know what I mean? And so they’re very similar because they come from the same traditional roots and then they were sort of looked uh they were changed through the same cultural lens, you know. >> Yeah. It’s kind of like when you talk about when people talk about Taco Bell using the same ingredients, you know, 10 different ways and whatever. It’s like >> that’s every culture. >> That’s every culture. The the Italians got uh 99 different names for shapes of pasta, you know, and that’s all just wheat and and and water. Pakitos, tacos, same thing, just different shapes. >> Yeah. I love how they like and similarly with Italian pasta shapes, like there’s so many regional names for different pasta shapes, right? >> Like what might be called like uh strotti in one region is called caser and another reason region. Similar with Mexican food. Like if you say taquito to us, what shape do you picture? >> A rolled one. >> A rolled one. >> Like a long roll. And then if somebody says crispy taco, then I just think of a folded. Yeah. Yeah, it just mean flat. >> But then like a lot of places in Mexico, if you say taquito, tquito just means little taco, >> right? >> So then it’s just like a smaller folded taco. >> Something I realized this past weekend is we had a taco lady at my family party and I asked for a tostada and my brain I’m thinking just something flat that I stack on top of, but the way they were making it was just a tortilla with cheese on top and it was flat like that and meat on it. Oh really? But I was like taco in my brain also. So, but they were like, “No, tostada.” >> And I was like, “Oh, funny.” >> So, it might be where the region of where they were from that that’s how they present uh present tostadas. And I was like, “Oh, this is actually really cool.” >> Was it Did they get it like They got it like crispy though. >> They got it perfectly crispy. >> And the cheese was melted perfectly. It was the best bite, but it was really tiny. It was a mini taco about this big. >> Yeah. Yeah. Because I think in some regions what she did, they might call it a vampirro. >> Yes. >> Vampro. Yes. I was trying to think of a word, but yeah, that’s correct. >> But yeah, no, that’s like uh I don’t know all these that’s kind of what the entire podcast was founded on is these like fun little differences and debates within uh within food cultures and they’re fun. So yeah, you’re not wrong, but also you’re completely wrong. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. >> Hi Josh. Hi Nicole. Hi Maggie. Um this is Joy Debb calling from Rockville, Maryland, right outside of DC. My weird opinion I didn’t know was weird until college because as I grew up my mom would make us BLTs with bacon, lettuce, and tomato >> toast and on one piece of toast mayonnaise, but on the other piece of toast peanut butter. >> I knew he was going to say peanut butter. >> And people started letting me know in college how weird they thought that was. >> Yes. >> But I sincerely think that is the best way to enjoy a BLT. Thanks. Bye. >> Okay, we have to dissect this because if you’re adding peanut butter to one side of it, doesn’t that change the whole sandwich, the whole point of the BLT? Like it takes away from the main components. >> Plubed. >> Uh, all the weirdest opinions are always the peanut butter. You freaks are out there doing some crazy stuff. >> Why do people love peanut butter so much? >> I get it. I peanut butter is one of the things that makes me like patriotic. It’s like women’s gymnastics once every four years and peanut butter. >> Are you comparing peanut butter to gymnastics? >> 100%. In the in the sense that both of them make me like really proud to be an American, you know, seeing Simone Biles out there, you know, Michaela all of them. Going back to the Shawn Johnson, Nasia Lukan days, that and peanut butter cuz peanut butter is like the great American food product. >> So is mayo, >> you know. No, it’s not though. Literally like mayonnaise. Mayonnaise is like Spanish, right? Like mahon, where like mahones, the word comes from, it’s in Spain and then the French, you know, it’s like a now a French word. But peanut butter, you ever Europeans love mayonnaise, right? Europeans hate peanut butter. >> Oh, see, you know what? When I was in Europe, I didn’t see peanut butter anywhere. I just saw peanuts. >> Yeah, they don’t like do it. >> That’s a great point. >> Peanut like peanut butter. Root beer is the other one that you see European try root beer and they’re just like, “What does this taste like?” Mindesen because we like it. It’s called barks. It has bite. >> Root beer is gross. >> So I I kind like objectively if you didn’t grow up with it. It’s a weird flavor. >> Unless it was mixed with ice cream. I never touched root beer. It was always mixed in soda. >> We’re We’re like we’re putting our like medicine flavored soda on ice cream. That’s a weird thing for somebody who didn’t grow up with it. >> Yeah. That’s >> And it’s literally made with like an indigenous root to America, the Sars Barilla root. >> They just don’t even have that flavor outside. >> We made some homemade root beer recently and it was way better. It was crazy. Kind of made your mouth go numb a little bit. >> Yeah. >> But peanut butter, like people when peanut butter first hit the markets in like the early 1900s and like George Washington Carver, it had like a lot to do with that. He didn’t like invent peanut butter, but did a lot with peanut cultivation. But when peanut butter first hit the markets, nobody knew what to do with it because there was didn’t really exist before the mass marketed version at least. And so there was like you see restaurant menus from like Ritz Carlton in like 1895 and it’s just like uh iceberg lettuce with peanut butter. Like that’s what they were they would serve. >> Oh, interesting. Didn’t they used to put it on chicken too? >> Yeah, dude. Like peanut butter was just used as a condiment on a bunch of stuff. And obviously it’s used in West African food and East Asian food and Southeast Asian food, >> but like the American usage of peanut butter, it’s gone in so many different circles. And so like putting peanut butter on a BLT, it’s not that weird in the long arc of history. >> It’s crazy you say all that cuz I know it was from here, but I feel like people have used a lot less peanut butter lately. Unless it’s like an art like in America >> that too in office and America, but everything is more artificial peanut butter flavoring more than the actual peanut butter itself. >> I And like the rise of like the the almond butter rise was like such a hazelnut. Yeah. Uh, >> what is that stuff called? Nutella. >> Nutella. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. I just I’m dead serious when I say that. Like peanut butter makes me feel very patriotic. >> And I say put it on a BLT. Put it on more. >> Bacon makes me feel patriotic. >> Peanut butter, mayonnaise, and banana sandwich. Delicious. >> Ew. >> You never had that? >> No, I would never. Josh, >> a pabam. >> A >> peanut butter mayonnaise banana. >> Hey, Josh Nicole and esteemed guest. Um, this is Patrick Hail um from SoCal and I live in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Anyway, I need your culinary professional assessment on something. >> We got it. >> So, I have a Puerto Rican and Dominican co-workers and they’ve talked about dipping crackers andor baby belell cheese and coffee. And my Dominican coworker even mentioned dipping a ham sandwich in coffee. >> What? I was personally disgusted, but I acknowledged, you know, different cultures, tastes, etc. When I suggested dipping Oreos in coffee, one of them said that was disgusting. Um, so, and one thing to consider, um, is that according to my Puerto Rican coworker, uh, they tend to submerge crackers and cheese and sweetened coffee. And I guess that’s uh somewhat common in the Caribbean region. Whereas I associate dipping sweet things, cookies, donuts, cake, etc. with unsweetened coffee. Um would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks. >> It’s so crazy. Okay, so one of my theas, she used to have I guess she’d be like, “Oh, I have uh coffee concesses.” >> Yeah. and she would mix hot chocolate with her coffee, put a little bit of creamer in it and some cinnamon. Um, and then she would or espresso and then the cinnamon and the milk and she would dip uh like the also the cheese or she would use a Monterey Jack cheese square and she would dip it in or let it float to the top, let it melt on the top and then eat it like a soup. >> Dude, that’s like so that was so familiar. Like I haven’t heard anybody do that in >> she she’s Mexican. >> Yes, she’s on the Mexican side. Mhm. >> That’s so funny. I I didn’t know that about like Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic. Um but what’s funny is what he was talking about when he’s saying like he would dip something sweet into unsweetened coffee, right? >> Whereas these like Puerto Ricans and in Dominican co-workers, they’re dipping something savory into sweetened coffee. You’re both ending up at the same place. >> Yeah. you’re both finding the mixture of like starchy, sweet, and savory because coffee is not sweet inherently. It’s actually quite savory. Sometimes I like putting a little bit of salt in my coffee if I’m being honest. It’s kind of nice. It tempers the the bitterness for me. But you’re both arriving at the same place, brother, >> basically. >> And like even um seeing so many similarities across cultures, there’s something we made it for the show years ago, but it was really good. It’s called uh cafe. I think it’s a a Scandinavian thing where they put this like it’s this very kind of hard squeaky cheese that like doesn’t melt but it gets softer as it warms. >> So it’s really hard when you cut it almost like a paneer or something. >> And what kind of coffee is it? Just an over >> It’s just like a kind of like a black coffee. >> Uh but it’s and I think you put sugar I think we put cream and sugar in it but you like eat these like soft salty cheese squares out of your sweet coffee. >> Dang, that actually sounds pretty good. I know he mentioned the Oreo and then into the coffee. I could see how everybody’s like because that doesn’t make sense. If they’re dipping it in sweet coffee like they said then it’s too much sweet on sweet. So >> yeah, you need that contrast. >> You have to have the contrast. >> The the ham and cheese sandwich in the coffee that like sounds really good. >> It actually sounds very good. And I don’t even like coffee that much, >> man. >> Should we try it? >> I’m kind of in. Especially like some nice like crusty Cuban bread like kind of like grilled down. It has to be really really good bread. That’s the only way it works. >> Yeah. It got to be that crispy bread. It can’t be like a white sandwich bread >> and a creamy cheese. >> Yeah, dude. Man. Yeah. We’re so dude. We’re sold. We’re sold. We’re sold. We’re sold. >> Give us our coffee. Don’t >> I’m moving. Daddy Daddy Yankee, come on the show. We’re going to talk about it. We’re going to be He’s Puerto Rican. >> I don’t know. >> Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee is Puerto Rican, right? >> I think so. >> Either Either way, Daddy. Daddy Yankee. >> What’s the other guy’s name? Babonty. >> Babon. >> Yeah. Ko. >> Yes. I love him. want to come on the show. >> Um, well, on that note, thank you so much for listening to A Hot Dog is a sandwich. 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