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we’re we’re not having a typical debate right like we’re not doing waffles wrist pancakes we’re not talking about if boneless wings are wings no we’re not we’re talking about a greater existential concept that’s very important to me and that nicole is that there’s no such thing as a soup i’m so upset why are you upset because i come here and i’m expected to do a job and then you you fling this in my face 20 minutes before i’m supposed to come and sit down and do my job and you say hey did you know that soup doesn’t exist and i’m like ugh not this again i do kind of think it’s hilarious that like you know your background is in like food styling and recipe development and you’ve worked in cbd companies and you’ve done a lot of different things and then also now we’re just like hey so uh josh has this completely insane idea that doesn’t make any sense do you want to co-host a podcast and you’re just like yeah that seems like a thing i was prepared to do after like you know uh i don’t know making mac and cheese you know to scale for thousands of boxes at walmart um yeah well anyways here we are so my whole thing about why soup does not exist this actually came about because when we were doing the podcast about best pizza styles with amanda hesser who was such a lovely guest we had we had an opinion casserole where someone said soup is not a meal and that got me thinking because obviously you and i enjoy soups like pho and ramen we eat them a lot in the office but when this person said soup is not a meal i knew what they were referring to right they were referring to like a progreso can of minestrone or tomato soup or something like that but that could fill you up oh you’d take a lot of tomato soup to really fill you up really no i can eat like a bowl of tomato soup and i’m happy but you would consider that like a meal to me also i ate a three pound burrito in like 15 minutes yeah we found out there was there was about a pound of beef in each of those burritos that we they were good though i slurped that down like it was my job it was real good and it literally was that day but the point is this person is saying soup is not a meal and that led me to think about the fact that our definition of soup is so so so broad because it can range from something like a tasteful shot of gazpacho that you sip at a wedding in temecula okay to a giant 3000 calorie bowl of ramen meaning that the term soup is kind of useless and this is actually coming from a very real place there’s a very famous phrase i believe bbc actually has a podcast produced based on this idea that is there’s no such thing as a fish stephen j gold is a biologist and he is famous for this notion that there is no such thing as a fish meaning that fish do not share any sort of common biological ancestor technically if there’s any biologists or taxonomists or whatever out there they’ll say that yes they do but also things that are not fish have that same biological ancestor as well anyways point is a salmon is more closely related to a camel than it is a hagfish however yeah that’s crazy because hagfish they don’t have jaws and salmon develop jaws in the only commonality water that’s the only commonality right it’s that they’re underwater which is to say the only commonality of no hag fish have no they have gills i don’t even know if hagfish have gills they like don’t have eyes there’s these like gross they literally they have they’re one of the only animals maybe the only animal to have or i think lampreys also have teeth but no jaws okay we got a live hagfish in the studio once they’re fished off the coast of california they’re these prehistoric nightmares but the point is they’re both classified as a fish because they kind of just like live underwater and they lay eggs which is the same way that soups are classified together as soups because they are like liquidy foods right i just i don’t think it’s a hagfish big mistake dude they’re brutal also apparently they’re really delicious though okay it’s a big uh there’s a it’s like an eel yeah so you’re telling me an eel isn’t related to salmon not only that nicole and eel is not even related to a hagfish what are you hagfish are invertebrate i believe this to be true and eels are vertebrates which is one of the earliest sort of like splits in evolutionary biology we’re gonna get like actual smart people in the comments who are just like everything you’re saying is wrong and that’s fine because i’m not here to debate evolutionary biology certainly not here to debate evolution boy do i know nothing about that all i know is when i see a video of a chimpanzee doing stuff just like throwing its own poop reading banana i’m like yeah i could see i could see how i was that have you heard of travis the chimp no what is travis the champion travis the chimp was a famous chimpanzee that was in like film movie beloved by his family and neighbors and then one time he attacked his owner’s friend because she was holding his tickle me elmo doll this is right right off the dome and i don’t know how i remember this factoid but uh he was she was holding his tickle me elmo doll which he loved very dearly and then attacked her face and limbs and like she had to get like 50 like 15 surgeries and like it really sucked this is i shouldn’t be laughing but there is always a small part of me that like when someone has like a very wild animal as a pet and then something bad happens i i’m always just a little less sympathetic yeah there’s a very upsetting to me at least tick tock video that everyone including my girlfriend who sent it to me seems to think it’s very cute this is uh the monkey’s name is uh gaten this is on tick tock there’s a video of a woman who has a domesticated tiny maybe it’s a capuchin monkey and this monkey is wearing a diaper and it’s hopping around her kitchen it’s just screaming going and the monkey climbs into the fridge and grabs a thing of ready whip that is about the size of this tiny monkey’s body and the monkey’s just screaming and it’s shaking the ready whip this one’s like oh okay you want some you want some whipped cream and this monkey just continues to shriek and she sprays whipped cream in his monkey’s hands and he starts devouring it this like man-made processed sugar food and this monkey is just screaming with a bloodlust for ready whip whipped cream and to me i’m like how has man polluted nature so much that they just had this tiny monkey in a diaper yeah just screaming and fiending for whipped cream yeah travis was on the maury povich show did travis cheat on his fiancee and get a paternity test on the mori povet show no i think it’s one of those like like i have a weird thing about me can you guess what it is audience and they’re like you have a tail or you have a chimpanzee and then the audience votes and then it’s revealed oh my point is there is no such thing as a fish because it is such a broad term that is not meaningfully describing things that are so far away from each other and evolution in the same way that to me the term soup means nothing because if all it describes is liquidy foods that can encompass anything from gazpacho to polish fruit soup to a large bowl of ramen to me the term soup is absolutely meaningless there is no such thing i would go further nicole to say that there is no such thing as a beverage josh i don’t believe we can separate foods based on on levels of moisture i firmly believe that george you literally had a tick-tock concept called name that soup yeah so you’re trying to tell me that we live in a society yes we do go no no go on please take the floor the floor is yours i’m saying that i am using the tools that people have given me right like obviously i know that people recognize the term soup i don’t think it’s right so like if i go to a diner i’m not gonna be like hey soup doesn’t exist but give me that french onion liquid so what is the point of this what what is your point here what are you trying to do with this prompt okay uh that’s actually a great point and that you should probably ask me that question any time we like pitch an episode just like hey josh what are you trying to do what’s the point of all this my thing is i i do believe that through in a very like america-centric lens we tend to disrespect soup and this is actually where i’m going with this and i absolutely believe this right and so we get people who are in the opinion castrol thing saying like hey soup isn’t a meal while discounting the importance of soup like would you argue that soup is more important in damn near every other culture about america no i think soup is important in america do you like i mean if you think about i feel like we don’t eat nearly enough soup compared to the entire world well that’s because we also live in california and it’s a very beautiful lovely temperate climate but people are sucking down chowder they’re sucking down chowder but chicken noodle i’m thinking about like you know split pea split pea and ham yeah you ever had a what is that soup tortilla chicken tortilla soup from cpk i see why does it always come back to see because they love cpk but like you know the idea of making a soup is that you are typically using every single part of an animal right like if you okay i see like korean kamjetong right it’s made with like the goat neck and stuff and i think in america we’re like typically kind of afraid of using maybe like the off parts of animals or what we’ve deemed off parts so i just want people to like reconsider the idea of soup and not infantilize it i don’t think soup is infantilized i think it’s commodified in a very specific way because whenever people think of soup most people in america will just think of campbells yeah yeah that’s true soup is much more commodified in the united states i don’t think it’s and would you say infantile infantilized i don’t think it’s infantilized and i don’t think it’s like not as like respected i just think people have just had their soups canned in bpa filled containers their whole lives i found out until the 1920s campbell’s sold canned turtle soup what but it’s not real turtle soup no no real turtle soup no way yeah so campbell’s used to have real turtle soup that apparently was like turtle soup was really popular in like one colonial times in america because there was like tons of snapping turtles and that recipe made its way back to britain uh and then people just got sick of having to like break down turtles and fabricate these turtles because can you imagine no killing a turtle and ripping out of a shell sounds brutal and so like campbell’s in the 1920s was just like yo we can just make giant batches of this turtle soup put it in can start selling it interesting and then they did and everyone was like yo honestly now that it’s in a can like that’s pretty gross yeah and then they stop but i would love i know we do the discontinued snacks on gmm you want to try to find a i think a can of turtle soup i think it’s worth it i think if we can find it a can of turtle soup from the 1920s i’ll try to pitch it someone’s depressed i mean when i cleaned out my grandma’s depressed family depression [Laughter] so monster press uncle has been hoarding it for a hundred years that’s the only thing i care about anymore i was saying when i cleaned out my grandma’s cabinet when she moved i like legitimately found spices that expired 20 years ago multiply that by five you got someone’s grandma out there gotta have a can of campbell’s turtle suit i believe this did you know that uh my mom has a has a can of not a can it’s a jar of pickled vegetables that are the same age as me under her bed is it uh is this for for good luck yes really like and then like whenever i think i get married or i give birth to my first child we’re gonna pop that stuff open buddy are you gonna eat it yeah it’s it’s it’s fermented yeah but i mean like you don’t have any any sort of worries about no we’ve been doing it for like centuries wait is this like an actual tradition yeah i mean not just like your mom or your family no no no it’s a very common thing it’s torchy well it’s pickled vegetables or we do garlic a lot of the time and it’s like the liquid is black it’s a black liquid and then you take it out and it’s like this beautifully pickled garlic clove and it’s like it’s really old but it’s really good so like maybe i don’t know let you know when i put that one open bring some into the office i’m so excited it’s really interesting it’s like under her under her bed what does this have to do with soup back to soup so not only do i not believe soup exists i that got me thinking like what can be the base minimal definition of a soup right especially if you consider it like noodle soups and this whole i don’t think we should consider a noodle in the soup as being a defining factor but i mean to me that makes it like a large meal but i guess you could do the same with potatoes or any sort of starch that could be a big enough bowl soup to constitute a meal that was like the original question that was posed that really got me thinking of soup is not a meal i guess it wasn’t a question it was just like a very weird demand it’s like soup is not imagine this person got served soup as a meal and they were very angry and for some reason we were their outlet which i really respect that we’ve become that for people thank you for making us your official sounding board of bad food we are your punching bags fine hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythical heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability so what constitutes soup yeah it’s like what’s like the minimal something plus water so you were talking about i was thinking about really watery pastas because you talked about during our pasta shape episode your your food it was a culinary professor right yeah yeah how he would like add like a chef chef professor i didn’t go to culinary school to me it’s like hogwarts yeah like professor of potions you’re professor of sauces you saw stockton dr sauce sounds like a really dope trap step dvd i’m gonna say that sounds like a good dj name um but no you mentioned him pouring the water into the pasta i know that’s just to loosen up the sauce but then that had got me thinking about the last time i went to shout out to little tony’s the official italian american restaurant of me uh little tony’s when you’re here you’re italy that’s the catchphrase i made up for them when i was like where is little little tony’s is in north hollywood it’s on the corner of vineland and lankersham i believe ben oh my god you gotta go they sell like uh 13 bottles of wine don’t know how to make money on it but it’s great because everyone at the table can get a whole one and then they sell like nine dollars spaghetti and for some reason their veal parmesan is cheaper than their chicken parmesan i don’t know the economics of this place that’s crazy they have that giant yellow sign that just has like it just says like ravioli lasagna spaghetti and like you know the like eyes are missing from ravioli anyways just like what is this magical place it smells like narnia it’s fantastic and it’s the type of place which is i’m getting to a point here when you order the spaghetti right they’re not sauteing it in the sauce thing a little tony’s ain’t got time for that you paid eight dollars for it so they take the spaghetti straight from the water okay slap it onto the plate and then put some like watered-down tomato sauce on it so the bottom of every bowl of spaghetti is at least a half cup of kind of pinkish tomato water okay so that soup is what you’re trying to tell me last time i was eating it i ate the last bit of this spaghetti with a soup spoon nicole you telling me that that’s a soup no what separates that from rob what is it called tony peace no no little tony’s tony with an eye tony with an eye that’s why you’re getting confused but here’s the thing i think the son from little tony’s took over like the bar area and he just calls it like cool tony’s or something oh like cool guy tony yeah i’ve driven past this place i’m looking at the door it’s very familiar to me oh my gosh i i playfully crap on it i genuinely love little tony’s when trevor helped me move i took him to little tony’s that’s nice it was the loveliest time why don’t you take they got watery spaghetti soup we can’t go anywhere world shut down i’ll take you to a park and we’ll sit on a bench josh i feel like i tell you this at least once every three podcasts it is the intent of the person serving the meal but what is the what exactly is the intent of a soup it is that one it is it is a liquid how much liquid got to be there wet wet enough wet enough okay like it’s not a sauce sauce and soup are two different things can we agree on that i i believe i would agree if i warm up a bowl of ranch and i give it to you is that a soup or is that a warmed up eat it but it’s a bowl of warmed up ranch probably it might actually be a custard if you’re really breaking yeah but but have you ever had someone make their famous tomato soup from scratch and you taste it and you go oh yeah that’s called marinara that to me is a very there’s a lot of crappy lunch places around here that we order from where their tomato soup is indistinguishable from a pasta sauce yeah i guess but so when does that tomato soup become a sauce whenever it’s paired with something else or it’s being dipped in something else but if you say just get a side of marinara dipping sauce that we’ve both agreed can be indistinguishable from a hypothetical place’s tomato soup let’s say oh lemonade in burbank with your marinara ass tomato soup i actually really like it it’s got yeah i like eating a bowl of marinade i do but it’s a sauce no if you’re good something if you go to the olive garden and you get a side dipping sauce of marinara but the breadsticks never come and you’re eating that with a spoon have you had a bowl of super have you had a bowl of sauce the intent was for it to be a sauce of course to dip the bread sticks in but it’s indistinguishable if someone switched that out at the last minute with a bowl of soup from lemonade have you eaten a super sauce is this a schrodinger soup situation this is literally schrodinger’s soup is what you’re trying to do to me right now it’s not happening the soup is both alive this is more of a pavlov’s dog situation where when i hear the word soup i just go huh or no i i again again i think tomato soup is one of those things that you know it’s a little muddy it’s a little con fudito for the guests at the table okay tomato soup and marinara sauce very similar they can be interchangeable so i’ll give you that okay thank you but i’m not gonna say if you put a bowl of sweet chili sauce and i give you a spoon and i say enjoy your soup you’re gonna just eat it and no say okay that’s soup what about polish fruit soup what about it so we we had or you i act like i do anything on on gm stuff i do stuff i do stuff but you you made the polish fruit soup yeah right it was like a kind of thin sweet milky liquid yeah it was like a creamy soup yeah but like that is explicitly called a soup right in poland and both what we refer to it as but i’m thinking about this um vietnamese dessert called cheitai have you ever had this it’s like sweetened coconut milk with various like fruit jellies in it and also fresh lychee okay and stuff like that would not be considered a soup to most people it’s simply like a dessert that happens to be liquidy and also you tend to like drink it like at what point does a sweet soup like that which we both agree with volumes maybe it’s the volume of the container in the container that is being served in are there any other foods that once they go into a different container they kind of change constitution and cease to be that food does that make sense uh yeah i’m trying to think right now so i’m gonna say cereal but cereal soup we are going to tie ourselves in so many logical knots with our previous episodes no i don’t think there’s another food that can like change like that no i’m saying no yeah that’s what i’m saying like i don’t know i don’t believe that to be yeah no no no no yeah no no here’s the thing if you look back at the cereal is soup yes debate where you ruined my thought process but now that i look at that we were never debating is cereal soup what were we debating we were merely debating does soup exist we just didn’t know it yet okay so this is like the more advanced version yeah so what’s there i’m i’m probably gonna butcher this any philosophy people out there come at me bro but the idea of like reductio ad absurdum which is the idea of you can hold on hold on if you like break an argument down and get someone to agree to an absolutely ridiculous premise okay you kind of show that the whole thing is shot the whole concept is also absurd so this idea of if you break the concept down so much and get someone to agree that cereal is soup cereal is absolutely not soup that’s crazy yeah you’re gonna go to a diner go give me a bowl soup you get a bowl of frosting like it’s ridiculous it’s one of those things you know on the inside you don’t have to let everyone know on the outside it’s a secret for you and nobody else don’t tell anybody yeah you ever had to have you ever had a secret before it’s like that friend that you’re like watching ancient aliens with and you’re just like man these people are what’s your alien have you ever seen naked i’m afraid naked interface the best show ever it’s just people in the freaking jungle and the arctic tundra they’re naked and you’re like what are you doing here buddy and they’re like my name is heather i’ve been a survivalist for six months and she’s like dying of like typhoid fever in the rainforest and you’re like heather you need medical attention sorry you ever had that friend where you’re like talking about how crazy conspiracy theories are and then you’re like yeah it’s like someone believes that like i don’t know aliens built the pyramids and then they’re just like oh well i mean if you actually look at the archaeological and it’s like oh no you’re one of them too that’s like the cereal soup thing you just keep it bottled inside so your friends never think you’re weird yeah i guess i mean okay josh soup is real it exists no yeah soup is real the sky is the pyramids were silos for storing grain dr ben carson said that as he was falling asleep at the podium no i to take this even further there is no such thing as a beverage yeah there is absolutely not i’m holding up my can of water that is that is water i think water may be the only beverage because it does not have nutritional content i think only did i just slurp what did i just slip a beverage let the record show that nicole slurped liquid death water out of liquid death come sponsor our podcast um but uh we really do love it what a fantastic product good water i think the only beverages hold on stay with me here came right here stay with me here this is gonna get a little wonky our calorie free and no sodium even some water does have sodium in it but i think any time there is nutritional content in anything that that is a food and i think liquid foods as you separate them based on your needs and wants are under that umbrella because okay so think about this right um consummate right beef consummate yeah yeah that’s a soup you mean bone broth bone broth but yeah i love bones is that a super a beverage bone broth yeah both it’s it’s just both i think you would have to sub category again i think it’s how it’s served like if i’m having it in a bowl with a spoon it’s a it’s a soup and if i’m having in a coffee cup with a little like if i’m having it in like a coffee cup like from an artisanal butchery like yeah then it’s then it’s just beverage but you and i have both been to so many fancy food events right where they’re serving like individual very small portions of things but that’s because they can’t that’s because they have no other way putting soups in cups that you’re meant to sip okay but there’s not a beverage or a soup but there’s no other way to say stella artois was the official beverage and so if this soup is a beverage stella our stella artois really did sponsor a lot of these food events i took home so much freestyle no no i took on like sunglasses i had i have a pair of apparel spritz sunglasses and a bandanna i miss these fancy ones they’re so funny but you see what i’m saying like there’s such a fine line that’s very hard to distinguish which is why i think we need to do away with those categories no no i just think you’re trying to take the piss man right now i think you’re just trying to round me up and get me to say stuff that so i can agree and you can just make me another cult member of yours i’m not interested josh i’m not coming to you over to your supless cult i’m not taking part in this the cult of radical consumable inclusionism because okay so the broth thing right broth bone broth being a super beverage who really knows what it is i would consider that a soup campbell’s right we agree they’re in the business of making soup yes right campbell’s soup company yes yes for the phrase campbell soup yes you’ve seen the the uh andy warhol painting of the campbell soup why is your tone so why is your tongue so serious all of a sudden did i do something wrong did i call you a cult leader and i hurt your feelings no i do think that you and i both together could start a pretty good call yeah yeah yeah like one of the cool ones one of the cool ones like the the colt and venice uh i’ve always probably shouldn’t name them unless we get sued but i think they disbanded but anyways look at the whole article they’re illegally selling kombucha um anyways campbell’s right we can all agree that they’re in the business of making soup yes i agree with you yeah yeah so campbell’s launched a campaign back in i believe the 1960s and it was it was that very mad men era type you know magazine ad where it’s just like a large illustration and a couple words and it was of a campbell’s can of beef broth being poured over ice and i thought initially when i saw this that it was like to make a cocktail which is what is it like a bulldog or something they’re like cocktails to use beef bouillon right and you’ll put that in bloody mary never have i ever heard of that before oh really no it’s good like vodka beef bullion horseradish what yeah what what are you talking i’ve never had that before i would love that i would love a savory cocktail yeah i mean it’s basically the concept of a bloody mary just like less tomato so tired of these fruity ass cocktails like give me some beef tails yeah give me some beef and whiskey i did have i did have a uh i think it was a what it was that bevell and it had lamb fat bourbon in it oh yeah what was it called what was it that’s so funny because at their other restaurant they did a ham fat washed uh uh bourbon in a glass it was really good yeah give it put put more pork put more animal fat in your [ ] it was delicious okay sorry backtracking continue this is campbell’s ad that showed a can of beef broth being poured over ice and it was not for a cocktail it was simply hey pour your beef broth on ice and drink it it’s refreshing so he literally tried to take this soup and then just remarket it as a beverage it didn’t change its actual you know chemical makeup at all in the process it was merely campbell’s trying to tell you that you could enjoy this in a different way but putting in a completely different subcategory going from soup to beverage which is why to me that there should be no lines it’s the container that you’re giving it in i’m telling you unless you’re going to fancy events because you can’t afford spoons the difference between a soup and beverage is a container that you are given it to consume in insofar as you can afford spoons yes it’s so funny because it’s true and all those fancy events they’re trying to cut costs so much that they’re just like we buy a thousand spoons that’s an extra like 80 bucks at smart and final and they can’t afford that they’re already not pissed they’re already not paying us for this event but like if any famous person walks by we’re going to put some caviar on top of their toes yeah yeah god i missed that yeah well i’m just telling you now man i don’t think me and you’re gonna i think we’ve reached an impasse in our brains like you can tell me blank doesn’t exist but if i see a bowl of it it exists to me yeah i’m still gonna scroll to the soup section on the postmates like you know soup is real you’re just trying to make a point right now yeah i just i think soup has been uh infantilized by a lot of people especially in america because we have this very insular notion of what soup is like when this person said soup is not a meal i feel like they were picturing you know a small cup of say like thinned out french onion or beef and barley from a diner or something like tomato soup whereas there’s a whole gigantic broad world of soups out there which to me also includes stews if you’re going to insist that soup exists stew is simply a soup absolutely not but come on absolutely not [Music] all right nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there on the internet it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] um that was more inception trailer than dubstep to be clear wasn’t that cool how i did the mic thing was good yeah meg was that cool did you get that oh thumbs up you got it also speaking of dubstep i’d like to issue a slight apology for for an episode of mythical kitchen this is where i’ve decided i’m gonna start doing his apologies uh when i mentioned casper and ruskill being the godfathers of dubstep and i forgot to mention benga um benga benga is is also a godfather of dubstep i was always a rook rusko girl me too i mean right now girl they have visco girls now we have rusco girls i’m gonna make that jokery now too same brain i just talk too fast all right let’s get into it we got at shower head cholula is quote mexican hot sauce for white people tapatio or valentina is where it’s at i’ve been saying this for years i i don’t cholula is legitimately from mexico it’s from chapala um tapatio has a very interesting story behind it and you used to work with i loved i before i worked for them after i worked for them i’ve always loved tapatio hot sauce it’s one of the it’s like top five for me any day of the week i also love tapatio tattoo for me is the the king of breakfast hot sauces for some reason just a taste of taffy on a breakfast burrito cholula’s a little bit more aesthetic tapatio’s got more of that like kind of bitter chili heat i dig on valentina too but to me it’s between tapatio and cholula um but it’s kind of crazy the history behind tapatio um it was you know tapatio is the slang term for residents of guadalajara yeah which is the biggest city in the state of jalisco and isles assumed that tapatio was like a jaliscon style hot sauce or something that’s why it was called that it was made by someone from guadalajara it was not actually there were just a lot of haliskan immigrants in the united states and it was a businessman from mexico who was like i’m just going to give this a name that i think will be very marketable to the immigrants who are living in the united states right now so i’m going to call it tapatio because i know there are a lot of hilly skins in the states uh and so i always thought that was just like really interesting it’d be like you know if uh there was some like authentic brand texas chili that was marketed to people in france and it was made by a dude from seattle like it’s kind of the same relationship uh but yeah man there’s no time for hot sauce in fighting i’m not the biggest valentina fan i feel like it has a little bit of a bitter note to it at the end i also think cholula is like not bland it’s just very one note to me in terms of hot sauce chulu is basic in a way that i don’t dislike yeah you know it’s i’d much rather have tapatio over chula yeah i agreed on that uh wood flannery says i dip my steak in applesauce it’s not done i also dip chicken tenders in my apple sauce i also crushed crackers into my applesauce my applesauce hates me i also hate you no no no no you we don’t hate anyone okay i don’t like your food okay i don’t like your food opinions is that okay yeah i think that can be this is pretty this is wild this is a little bit too much this is an outlier this is this were you trying to impress pretty deep chicken tenders and applesauce i can’t see that applesauce is kind of like an unseasoned chutney oh [ ] a little fun fact hey nicole do you want a fun fact i’d love one thing you know the uh the tamarind chutney that’s often served to indian restaurants right yeah it comes next like the very herby green chutney um most places to save on costs uh because you kind of have to offer that as like a free thing if you’re going to be an indian restaurant in the states most places to save cost will not use tamarind and they will use apple butter interesting instead i love to i think tamarind has such a specific taste that apple butter can’t really happen plus citrus i guess wow no you know i’ve never really experienced that so maybe i have and i haven’t known but tamarind is so specific to me in terms of taste color texture but who knows yeah so i’m thinking like applesauce is just an under seasoned version of tamarind chutney that’s a reach that’s a reach this is uh this is weird but again you enjoy what you enjoy the steak and applesauce that’s a bizarre thing that i’ve never heard about it’s like pork chops and applesauce yeah just just couch beef chops just beef beef chops and applesauce yeah this is pretty normal i guess weird all right at charla natat dipped in chocolate ice cream is the equivalent of fries and a milkshake on the yummy scale that sounds really lovely so i love i’m a big fan me and my girlfriend we’ll like we’ll we’ll take like a bowl of vanilla ice cream and was just like our little treat we’re like watching our shows and we’ll put a little bit of cornflakes on it and then like a little bit of honey and sea salt and it’s just what a treat um god we’re freaking adorable but yeah fritos and chocolate ice cream sound really good better than fries in a milkshake to me yeah uh the chocolate ice cream and the fritos it all makes sense to me it sounds really good yeah fritos have such they’re so salty and they’re so corny they’re so corny they’re like corny for fritos [Music] okay uh again what flannery says raw green beans are better than cooked ones don’t at me but the point of this is that we’re gonna at you would flannery wood flannery i’m adding you right now uh come to my house and have some green beans stew and you will change your mind have you ever had raw green beans maybe like once or twice i don’t have ever had them like truly raw i know i have like probably munch on well one thing that i do at the grocery store whenever i’m buying green beans for my mamas i always like uh taste one just to see like how they if they’re mushy or like if they’re like okay in the middle but like it’s not an enjoyable thing it’s more like a thing i have to do yeah yeah yeah that’s like when i when i taste like a raw chicken breast i’m just like i just need to make sure no that’s wrong that’s bad i have had chicken sashimi in l.a that was that was a pretty cool experience that’s illegal illegal also illegal in japan which is funny i think well that’s because their chickens are probably treated a little bit differently no it’s illegal in japan it’s illegal now yeah where is it legal i mean i’d probably places just like less stringent laws that they don’t really really gaff about it but um yeah but i assumed it was something that was like oh this is popular in japan illegal in the states and this place is doing it kind of underground but they’re like no it’s illegal in japan too and it was pretty gross gross and it was but it was gross yeah not good not good not like sushi no it has a real kind of snappy texture to it and also chicken raw chicken is almost kind of like milky bland and bacterial it tastes bacterial yeah you know that little kind of like bacterial funk you get from like kind of organ meats and stuff like that and like chances are you won’t get sick but you know probably don’t i’m not the person to applying on food safety all right at eco nosp where do you ever think about how many names we butcher uh all of them but my name’s been butchered my whole life so whatever girl payback snaps from nicole handy zade um i prefer mustard over ketchup in 99 of any and all situations except for one i will dip my carrots and ketchup that’s not even a situation where you would dip it in mustard that’s not like uh i thought they were going to be like you know i don’t know i dip my hot dogs in ketchup and it’s like oh some people do my carrots and ketchup i mean i i love ketchup sitting down a bit okay let me tell you what’s going on right now so when they were kids they probably like their mom was or dad was like hey honey i’m gonna put you some mini hot dogs take a look and enjoy them okay and then the mom was like she had an episode and she stopped let me finish and she’s like oh no the cocktail weenies are no longer there let me get and put something similar for my child and then they put carrots mini carrots and then the kid was like these are weird hot dogs but i’ll still eat them because kids still do anything you tell them because they’re so impressionable so i think that’s what happened you believe that this person’s mom when they were a child had an episode and replaced their hot dogs with carrots and forming their condiment choices for those people so yeah i’ll buy that cool i guess we can move on because we we solved it we solved that mystery good news good news econos go to therapy okay next up i’ve gotta say i p i peep this next one really quick peeps i beat this next one really quick this is the wild this is the wildest set of i haven’t seen it yet you ever had okay okay let me read it let me read it in real time okay at b flakes says i like to replace my bread with onion take in the outermost layer cutting it in half and placing ham sharp cheddar and a squirt of mustard between the two halves i talk about it at work and all i get are skeptical books where do you think they work i was imagining like a bank of america teller really no it’s like a slow day at bank of america just turn into your fellow telling me like hey hey julie hey julie did you know that i like to replace my bread with onions no no no this is at lowe’s when they’re like stacking up the floor floors and stuff and they’re like hey peter i never told you this but uh you know how like you use bread for sandwiches guess what i do listen listen listen onions and they’re just like bro what the f no this is this is weird like it’s probably like a low carb option or something still like i wouldn’t want to sit next to you on like a bus i’m down at the smell of onions i i accept raw onions smell in another person’s mouth oh that’s a fair amount and when we did that whole captain crunch thing on tick tock and we had like just 20 pounds of chopped onions around that was brutal i was crying the whole day well there’s okay what’s what’s a better low carb sandwich option because have you seen those pickle subs that people are doing yeah that’s fine i think that’s awesome uh cabbage lettuce yeah protein style lettuce lettuce i love lettuce wraps so much cpk has the best sauce i’ve ever had in my darn life i’m sorry i love cpk so much um uh i’ve seen people i’ve seen the craziest thing people take slices of sweet potato and put them in the toaster and like toast is that real yeah but there’s no way they’re cooked you can’t yeah right there’s no way they’re cooked i’m not crazy right no you would start like for that sweet potato to actually get cooked in the toaster it would have to release a fair amount of moisture right that’s what i’m saying and then that moisture would just like drip into the toaster and ruin it yeah why not just air fry two thick slabs and call it a day you could literally just microwave the sweet potatoes and it would work out yeah but microwaving is in a microwave isn’t sexy like airfryer is sexy yeah like microsoft corny for air pressure for microwaves i cook a lot of the food on gmm with microwaves yeah we got our sous chef microwave and then junior sous chef trevor trevor’s just underneath microwave not in terms of like you know of of rank or efficient just in terms of payment we pay the microwave all right at suburban underscore chud if it doesn’t come from a lactating mammal it should not be called milk show me the tits on an almond show me the tits on an almond is the funniest thing i’ve ever heard but also this is incredibly ignorant about the etymology the actual word milk etymology the word milk comes from old english and has been used it literally just means to rub or extract and so the term almond milk has literally been used for hundreds of years and now that people who others have deemed quote unquote soy boys or i suppose almond boys are drinking milk alternatives somehow people try and use this as you know uh millennials trying to change the history of words but the people who say that almond milk shouldn’t be called milk are the actual ignorant ones trying to change definition of words milk has nothing to do with tits just rubbing them i have nipples greg would you milk me okay i’m done i agree with everything you said i saw that glint in your eye you were waiting for my like 90 second incoherent rant to drop i have nipples i was just staring at you like are you done yet are you done yet okay jasper three six four zero one three seven five is that your social security number bro i’m trying it uh frozen peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are better than room temperature okay this makes sense to me a little bit because whenever i used to have incredibles i would put them in the freezer for like five minutes and the jelly would turn into this oh my god like cold peanut butter is like the bomb diggity so i i understand this and i really really respect it and i really really like it so good job jasper security code last name jasper what’s your mother’s maiden name in the model of your first card next time if you could uh no i i know what you mean about cold nut butter yeah it’s really good i think a fly just won’t do it right yeah you’re chilling that’s about that’s about how this day’s been going fly go in the eye just accept it just accept it i think a fruit fly literally climbed into i make a peanut butter and banana sandwich every morning i put it in the microwave for eight seconds evan goes josh you must eat so good and i’m like i do i microwave my morning sandwich for eight seconds it was just like sushi microwave coming in the clutch every morning for me that’s nicole that’s what i do before you and trevor get here i get here at 8 15. you get here at 8 15. you tell us to come here at 9 15. yeah i liked my morning time i get to microwave my sandwiches i get to spend time with sous chef mike that’s what i call him sous chef microwave the funniest day oh my god do i have a fly in my eyes yeah yeah you’re fine that’s cool yeah no it’s not there i don’t think yeah it’s the guy come to come to bless our holidays okay at supple oranges frozen burritos are exceptional when eaten with sweet pickle relish and i refuse to eat them any other way uh this this this segment what pandora’s box have we opened up with we thought when we were doing this opinion casserole segment that we’d get like eight opinions from people yeah and some people would be like i don’t like grapes and nicole and i would sit here and be like i don’t know grapes are pretty good but we have literally thousands of these and it is like playing mad libs with the food world where people are like i know it sounds crazy but take adjective food combine it with adjective non-sequitur food in part of your house they’re like i only like eating frozen popcorn burritos on my couch with cream and it’s like what yeah this is weird sweet pickle relish i don’t know i don’t know maybe it’s like again i all of this is like psychology like child psychology yeah like you must have had a really delicious bite of meal and you’ve been trying to chase that high since you were four yeah yeah nicole and i are i think basically licensed child psychologists because because kids love mythical kitchen uh and so yeah anyone needs child psychological needs come to me nicole we got this yeah um i i saw as a child who grew up eating uh microwave hot dogs with sweet chili sauce you just said microwave hot dogs hot dogs yeah the g is silent and hot dog so someone made microwave hot dogs with sweet chili sauce on it and then i’d wrap it in foil and let it sit while i played video games um but i never had like the the consoles are out at the time josh and when you were when you were a chubby young man yeah are your hands fatter than anything no no no that’s the crazy thing is my limbs nicole my limbs were very thin very thin limbs but this large barrel chest big old neck i had parents come up to me and i i was again like an 11 year old child and they would come up to me and they go like do you have a thyroid condition and i’d be like i’m 11. what do you mean so sorry anyways a lot of microwave hot dogs in my diet and i really loved it so i kind of get the sweet pickle relish and burrito what kind of parent what kind of adult asset to it would i know what a thyroid like also if you see like a kid that you think might have cancer and you go up to him and just go like hey do you got cancer that’s abhorrence don’t do that what if i did what were you gonna do about my thyroid condition if i did have one josh i’m so sorry i would have been i would have for sure been friends with you when you were like eight okay so i like had friends i was like i had water i was popular it was just you know big and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog is a sandwich if you want to hear more from us in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzade with the hashtag opinioncasserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see you next time the only line i could tell you from any robert de niro movie is i have nipples greg could you milk me you talking to me you milking me you milking my nipples greg [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of a hot dog as a sandwich and hey before you go we wanted to remind you that season 2 of stevie’s podcast best friends back all right is underway this season expands on stevia negin’s friendship from last 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