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every week you see this every week when I say that this is the most important question we’ve ever asked um this is probably the least important question we’ve ever asked if I’m being dead honest with you no this is this has some semblance of importance in my mind there is some cultural significance between there is because the pizza roll and the bagel bite crowd do seem to really hate each other yeah they have beef they have beef there’s no beef in in it it’s it’s funny you mentioned that because there is not a lot of food inside a pizza roll I mean there’s food we’re on top of Bagel Bites or on top of bagel bite they’re they’re both like the most cost cutting frozen food snacks that you will ever see like pizza rolls and Bagel Bites both go through such intense measures to cut costs did you say Bagel bite or Bagel bite you know what’s really funny I very I I enunciate Bagel when I say you know like let’s go get some bagels and smear but then I say bagel bite because I don’t know I think it’s like whoa I was like wait a second where’s Josh from again the bagels yeah I was like Bagels so the buggle bites the thing about buggle bites is uh no I the pizza rolls in The Bagel Bites communities seem to really hate each other and history seems to be on the side of pizza rolls there there are you know so many memes so you are team pizza rolls officially I’ve always been team pizza rolls because confession time I’ve never had a bagel bite before I’ve ever had a bagel I’ve never it’s it’s I can see from the photos it’s a disc it is a it is a disc with a Traw uh I don’t believe there’s a trough there’s no actual trough the the toppings sit just Atop The Flesh of the bagel okay but like whenever it Cooks down it doesn’t like cook down into like a trough because it’s a little sauce yeah so so the sauce it’s frozen on top of the bagel when you bake it the sauce you know it thaws and it melts and then it soaks into this soft ready bagel I see that is it a hole because I’m not seeing a hole it is um and there is an anus in the middle of the bagel sphincter a sphincter and this has a purpose sphincter’s all-purpose no I mean anus is just the Latin word for ring yeah I talk about anus a lot I’m just saying like Josh has never said that before to me yo the other day uh we were in the in the group text with me you Trevor and V we were we were all talking about pooping and Julia was like over my shoulder around working from home and she was like is that work appropriate and I was like well this is a workflow issue because we were supposed to have a meeting and Trevor was four minutes late and you know he explained that he was pooping and so then we all talked about our own and I think I don’t think it was anything inappropriate about that you know it’s maybe there should be some boundaries but uh I don’t think any of us have boundaries with each other but that’s okay because appropriate workplace boundaries but like pooping is everyone at work talks about pooping in euphemisms right in a way like someone does two and stuff yeah say ten two does anyone say ten two actually no one actually says it but someone disappears for 10 minutes and we’re supposed to act like you know what they just they got a call or something no I just say I gotta go to the bathroom I need eight minutes that is that is how it relates to work as I will be gone for eight minutes what I am doing with that eight minutes is none of your business okay back to the conversation at hand so the bagels have little holes in it but but they’re very very small yeah they’re just there there’s no purpose to the whole it’s just for the visual of that it’s a baby correct okay and to even to call them a bagel is probably a misnomer because there’s a lot of things you associate with Bagels right uh they’re they’re very chewy they’re very dense they’re sort of steamed so it’s almost a very kind of wet dough it is a little steamy know like the I don’t know I’ve never had one I’m just guessing it is it’s only steamy because it’s crusted and Ice you know so so like there’s not even I I don’t maybe there is God I haven’t had Bagel Bites in a minute I’ve last time I had both these were probably just over a year ago I actually got them side by side for a New Year’s party because I’m a very classy young man okay that’s quite nice thank you so much yeah we had just a large trough of dino nuggets Bagel Bites and pizza rolls interesting yes yes yes um and so I had them side by side and that is when I made my decision that Bagel Bites are far superior for a multitude of reasons go ahead for multitude of reasons so one I think there is something important for pizza for the cheese and the sauce and the toppings to hit the top of your palate directly and I mean I mean this right it’s it’s the reason I much prefer a slice of pizza to I mean calzone is a whole different eating experience yeah but I think a slice of pizza There’s Something Beautiful about you know the cheese and the grease directly pressing against the roof of your mouth yeah but what if you fold it yeah I guess that’s a good point I’m not a you never fold your pizza I am but I kind of fold it and I bite it and then I unfurl it and then I mash it with my tongue I see one time I was watching something on YouTube and then all of a sudden like you know how you just like auto play and like YouTube just goes on like a crazy like tangent oh yeah so all of a sudden I was watching the beginning scene of Saturday Night Fever by John Travolta have you ever seen it you’ve never seen it never seen where he’s eating two pizzas together like on top of each other and he’s eating the pizzas I just thought that was a good thing is that appealing to you is that is that a is that why you prefer pizza rolls to Bagel Bites no does this appeal to you Nicole does this John travolten say my fever appeal to you no I just thought about like like and then he kind of folds it but he still eats it so it’s like the cheese is still hitting his mouth but it’s still folded I don’t know I’m sorry I keep watching link eat the pizza Crunchwrap Supreme that we made yeah he folded the Crunchwrap like in a slice of New York Pizza he folded it well it was so soft through with garlic butter that he could and so I was like watching yes you dunked it yeah yeah uh anyways I prefer the cheese and everything to hit the top of your palette immediately and I also think that pizza rolls it’s like leftover french fries to me where there is no good way to reheat it oh interesting so uh I love pizza rolls because any way you eat them they’re good doesn’t matter if they’re fresh out of the microwave I wouldn’t say they’re good any way you eat them they are the same no they’re not if you put it in the microwave versus the oven versus a toaster oven it’s a different eating experience all the way around but they’re all delicious ways to eat it I I guess I feel that I do feel that they also taste is good when they’re reheated and then they’re kind of like room temp yeah yeah and then uh I don’t mind eating them not cold but like just a little bit colder than room temperature yeah like um something that’s been left out it’s been heated and left out at room temp for like 45 minutes where there’s still a little residual heat you know yeah totally what’s your preferred method of cooking a pizza roll uh toaster oven it is that’s because I grew up with a toaster oven in my house and I think a toaster oven is one of the most important tools in the kitchen more so than a microwave hot take because we we do need to do that discussion on the podcast like what’s what’s the most useful or useless kitchen appliance we should just have a toaster oven versus microwave debate that’d be good because I I hate toaster ovens like when Julie and I we’ve been together how you how you toast bread don’t say oven I use a pan I go I dry toast in a pan I prefer it I prefer it it dries out the bread don’t look to Maggie for approval on that what is she shaking your head to toast bread in a pan just as quick I have I have the the electric range that everyone criticizes me for when I post on Instagram sorry La hard to find gas stoves in nice Apartments but it has like the super boiler there’s a one burner that’s labeled like turbo yeah turbo yeah which is to say this is the only burner that actually works yes that’s the favorite yeah yeah it’s it’s front left front left is the best burner in every single kitchen front left let me see for me it’s front right for me so I think I never have a toaster oven on hand um if I need to like I’ll you know preheat an oven and just deal with it but I prefer pizza rolls microwaved why is it because they’re like mini Hot Pockets kind of I do and yeah similarly like I prefer Hot Pockets microwaved I think when you put them in the oven they kind of get too crispy and that’s not the experience that I want because I don’t think there’s enough filling inside pizza rolls to Warrant the amount of crispiness on the outside you know then I think you get this sort of like hard waxiness I want like the steam from The Filling to hydrate the outside of the pizza roll okay and then sort of you know uh make it almost like a steamed dumpling actually V and I were just talking about this I want to put pizza rolls in a bamboo steamer do it I know that’s your next Tick Tock that’s the next thing yeah we’re also talking about that always making content non-stop non-stop uh do you know that there’s a song that we used to listen to in the kitchen called Totino’s totinos hot pizza rolls and you enjoyed it up until the point that you lost your mind I did I would I would get very stressed in the kitchen and I would start singing that on about eight minute loops and Nicole is very concerned I enjoyed it because I love pizza rolls also there’s a very famous SNL sketch with Totino’s Pizza Rolls it has over 6 million views so what I’m trying to say is the culture significance of a pizza roll is unbelievably larger than a bagel bite unbelievably larger no no no I don’t care about Bagel Bites the way they care about pizza rolls are like an after-school snack you know what you’re getting they’re compact they come in 50 count bags can also be used for when you Bonk your head and you put it on your head like a bag of peas pizza rolls is an ice pack yes of course well I never had again my mom never bought pizza rolls because they were bad so I didn’t have pizza rolls until I worked here and we had to make a pizza roll milkshake well I remember it was the first time I had a pizza roll and it was a wonderful experience as far as cultural significance goes I do agree that they they have that and I mean the proof is in me maniacally singing that song to myself for minutes and minutes uh that said Bagel Bites they did and I remember this I believe it was in 2000 they sponsored the Winter X Games this is during I think would have been around the rise of Sean White okay well maybe that was a little bit before him anyways they sponsored the Winter X Games in 2000 and also got Tony Hawk to be a spokesperson so Bagel Bites has tried to like jump on the cultural significance they believe in themselves which is something that I really appreciate because this is like no one else does there’s a reason we’re not talking about I think people do I think Bagel Bites have a cult following and I think it needs to be more okay first of all a bagel bite and the ads look like a coronavirus have you ever seen them yes they almost look like the coronavirus they look when you look at the ads and the way they have those little are those pepperonis yeah I don’t know if they can legally call it pepperonis meat it’s a meat the meat squares it literally looks like the little nibbons if you’ve seen that in literally everything find a not a fine dining restaurant but um a Linea in Chicago they made a dessert that looked like the coronavirus that’s cool I kind of thought it was too and everyone was like really mad at them I think it’s all I think okay so whenever food starts to like whenever food is like social commentary yeah it can get really messy but some people do it right and I think uh elenia normally whenever they’re doing some crazy stuff they’re normally doing it right but maybe that’s just because I really want to go I know I think that’s probably it’s just like I I would love to go there and spend 600 or whatever yeah I don’t have exactly it’s just like a fantasy and it’s just like anything they do yeah I don’t care like fill the balloon with apple like you know what I mean they have like this balloon that tastes like an apple Jolly Rancher and also has helium in it like what I remember watching an interview with the chef who he was like the cdca at that restaurant it wasn’t great so it was like his um his CDC like his his underling and I believe now he has gone on to do a bunch of things uh maybe he used to open the restaurant in Santa Monica I don’t 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think is the better concept mini pizza bagels or little what a pizza roll is technically is a fried ravioli okay the the appeal of a pocket that I don’t know what’s in it excites me The Bagel Bites just lets it all out you know what you’re getting with that but but it’s transparency versus opacity big fan of opacity give me I love mystery I love a little mystery don’t don’t sell it all in one take you know I don’t need to see all of that give me a little bit of you know secrecy Iowa I like it that’s why you love dudes in hats um you’re like you’re like you know Fedora and sunglasses I’ve never ever ever spoken to a man that wears a fedora you know like um or sunglasses what was that show uh the pickup artist on VH1 oh yeah I love that yeah his name was mystery well yeah because yeah oh yeah the long silken hair and the big old hat mystery was not hot mystery had a certain Allure to him okay just which you know yeah the big fuzzy hat I I read the Neil Strauss book okay I read it I read it that was a show that I wish I would have had I loved my latchkey kid lifestyle of just being able to watch whatever TV I wanted I wish I had a parent in the room to explain context of that show because I think I was like 13 years old you know like oh my God how do I talk to girls and then in comes the pickup artist on VH1 and I’m like well these are adults on TV they must be speaking truth why were you getting dating advice from VH1 I don’t know eight hours in front of the TV a day and there’s VH1 anyways what do you think is like do you think that there is room to make an artisanal pizza pocket or mini pizza bagel I think it’s already been done like but like an actual like good artisanal one like do you think those because I haven’t seen any out there I don’t think I mean I’m sure people like they’re sure there’s like blog posts about it and stuff and people have made them before but do you mean like is a mass produced yeah cpg like ready to go to market why would you want either of those to be an artisanal product they’re fine the way they are there’s no need to have them become a higher quality everyone thought okay so I’ve been on clubhouse recently um I’m all LLC brain right now no gotta find market caps where is the gap yesterday there was one they were talking all about cpgs and they were like oh my God they were like don’t even try and get into the nut butter game because Justin’s is gonna Crush you but people thought that nut butter was good as it is and I mean Loris gutters existed and then Justin’s came in and swooped the market and changed the game part of this I’ll ask a question you know I listened to a lot of them I was in I need to find the white space Josh what you need to find the white space yeah wait back to clubhouse yeah uh Patty Stanger she was giving dating advice is she still is she married I don’t know man I don’t know but anyway she was hosting a clubhouse giving dating advice and she was on dude I love Patty Stanger I absolutely loved I feel like she should marry John Taffer I feel like Betty’s anger should come on the podcast and talk about like the best aphrodisiacs I would love that I love her ladies don’t give it up he can’t give it up right away ladies I used to watch Millionaire Matchmaker far too much that was such a good joke the guy had a cool beard did you ever see the guy with a cool beard yeah yeah I love Dustin I think I don’t know his name he just had a cool spiky beard he reminded me her Cadre reminded me of mysteries Cadre Cadre like I just kind of like group like a posse you know I’ve never heard the word Cadre Cadre is a word right I’m sure it is I just don’t know this terminology you could just say a group of friends and they’re a group of friends but like friends doesn’t Cadre implies like a businessy stop speaking in artisanal pizza roll language come back down to regular pizza rolls please what I’m getting at is that I think Bagel Bites and pizza rolls they are iconic for a reason and I do agree with you that pizza rolls has a Lion’s Share of the cultural capital right now and I think they’re very similar right like I wouldn’t see either and be like oh man you got pizza rolls instead of Bagel Bites or vice versa I do prefer Bagel Bites I think I’m coming at this from um the ranch sponge theorem I was gonna gonna bring up Ranch because do you put Ranch on your Bagel Bites also are Bagel Bites a breakfast item uh Bagel Bites have not been marketed as a breakfast item it’s very interesting they’re missing out that is interesting but I do uh eat both with ranch yes copious copious amounts of ranch indeed yeah and I like this it’s just soak them not soak them but I mean for me like they’re fine as they are but I would prefer any sort of sauce like I will dip them in barbecue sauce to me they’re just a swipeable saucable sponges both and I think Bagel Bites do a better job of it really because in my mind because I think well also I it’s not fair because I’ve never had a bagel bite but in my mind the bread of a bagel bite is less spongier than that of a pizza roll well no so interestingly a pizza roll I mentioned earlier that technically I would consider them a fried ravioli because if you do a deep dive we were doing an episode of Snack Smash and it really dug into the ingredients list there’s no leavening agent whatsoever so they’re literally making like I see essentially a pasta dough right it’s just flour water or I mean that’s a dumpling skin and you know similarly sure and funnily enough the maker of pizza rolls I believe it’s called Uh Gino’s Foods was the original makers before they sold it to totinos which is a subsidiary or Pillsbury or something do you know paulucci yeah he was making um egg rolls yes uh Frozen egg rolls and he used literally the same machine that would like you know stuff these egg rolls and he was like yeah but what if pizza that’s my impersonation of a man named Gino palucci but what a pizza and then that’s how it became a thing yeah brilliant and so for me it’s like what do you what pizza experience are you after do you want the sauce and maybe legally considered pepperoni and cheese flavor or do you want the leaven in the bread so it’s like that’s what you’re that’s what you’re trading for me pizza rolls versus Bagel Bites because I want the leaven bread because it soaks up the ranch I see wow that’s so interesting I never even thought of it that way which one gives you a more accurate Pizza experience if that’s important to you I don’t I don’t think that’s important whenever you’re eating a pizza roll or some people bite I don’t think that’s the reason why you’re eating them I agree you’re eating them because mom made pizza rolls because mom made pizza rolls yeah you know I was gonna I was gonna sneak it in there mom got the bagel bites that doesn’t have the same ring too it doesn’t have the same ring that’s interesting because when I’m eating a Hot Pocket yeah I don’t like I’m eating a pepperoni pizza hot pocket which is not in my top five Hot Pocket flavors what’s your favorite Hot Pocket favorite Hot Pocket this is purely Nostalgia from childhood say broccoli okay no broccoli is number three oh no and and we like got them for the show for something because I was like this is my favorite and everyone was like I think link almost threw up yeah they’re gnarly and I tasted it and I was like I still really enjoy the broccoli turkey cheddar hot salmon cheese is great uh the meatballs and marinara for some reason do it more for me than the pizza one okay but barbecue oh I’ve never had the barbecue Hot Pockets it is like sweet they also did a whole line of LA Food Truck inspired Hot Pockets no way I wrote a great personal essay about it I did yeah so Komodo Komodo truck I remember Komodo trucks yeah it’s still active uh they have a brick and mortar in um like pico area yeah yeah yeah but it’s really great they did like this Asian taco beef hot pocket like some offensively named thing but it was like you know it’s kind of like a sugary spicy thing of beef in it yeah but I’m not like eating that to eat pizza even if it is a pepperoni pizza I’m eating it for the hot pocket which I think you could say the same thing at the pizza roll yes and the same for a bagel bite no or is a big bite of pizza I think Bagel Bites the least at least a closer to a pizza experience that’s important to you is it really though like a smidge but it’s like it’s like an it’s an unnecessary smidge like what are you talking about I think the bigger thing here is that neither of them are the best frozen pizza products then what is Red Baron French bread pizza baby they need to make it smaller a French bread pizza is not the same thing as a bagel yeah you’re taking like a a 11 bready thing and you are covering it Pizza ingredients that are not typically made with pizza it’s very similar no no no that’s what I’m saying they need to make the French they need to make little like French bread pizza bites or like a terrible you mean a bagel like a bagel bite okay they put like a bagel bite but like the big well okay you’ve never had a bagel bite you’ve had a Sara Lee Bagel before right sure it’s it’s like more cake than Bagel it’s like a yeast cake it’s so sugary it’s like waxy and leathery I guess yeah it is leathery and that’s the same thing that’s in a bagel bite right it’s kind of waxy leathery bagel and there’s just so much sugar in it that like it’s not even the taste of sugar and it’s certainly not me complaining about the nutrition facts on it sure but I think it doesn’t make as good of a product as something like Red Baron French bread pizza which to me is just like it’s crusty and light Why You Gotta Throw a great product in there like that why can’t we just debate about uh because it’s but it’s in the same Nicole it’s the same actually I don’t think so I think it’s in the frozen pizza category I think you are just deflecting because you know Bagel Bites are not as good as pizza rolls so you’re trying to throw a wrench in there so you can win this debate I shall not let this happen not in my court of law California Pizza Kitchen needs to do a collab with Bruegger’s Bagels and they need to make barbecue chicken mini pizza Bagels on an everything bagel and that is the final answer okay yes I agree with that but don’t be throwing red bear in French red pizza up in the mix where does MaMa Celeste fit into this because Supreme Pizza which costs eight cents more than cheese pepperoni but it’s got the fennel seed sausage on it with the little green bits it’s really great and you can roll it up it’s so thin and spongy that you could roll it like a sushi roll and cut it into pieces and eat that oh you should make a hamburger out of Mama Celeste pizzas that’s a party to me you get 50 you get 50 to 60 Mama Celeste pizzas they cost 70 cents each and they’re delicious yeah and you just stack them on top of each other yeah and then guests can come in and they can just kind of you know take them Mama Celeste and they can hold it as like a plate so they can pile other Foods on top of it they put the homeless oh my God the guacamole on the mama Celeste Pizza that should be one of my stations at my wedding did you go to the mama Celeste station yet it’s actually we’re sponsored by Mama Celeste it’s right next to the McDonald’s french fries and the dino nuggets gosh oh man if you’ve never had Bagel Bites and you were kind of a late adopter to pizza rolls did you grow up with any like frozen poppable appetizer that was like your thing growing up or did you guys like not not eat like that I’m trying to think it was probably just chicken nuggets yeah poppable poppable uh pizza rolls are probably Bagel Bites or not it’s true uh Bagel Bites or a two biter I don’t mind that though I don’t mind also speaking of pizza rolls being poppable I think pizza rolls are liable to cause serious injury what are pizza rolls but yeah but like so are millions of other foods that are in a pocket agree but not Bagel Bites because Bagel Bites are transparent but you know what you’re getting no no but at the same time that’s the mystery when you bite into a bit into a pizza roll injury to be the mission you might burn the roof of your mouth but that’s okay because you knew what you were getting yourself into because it was covered you know with the I told you with a bagel butt you know what you’re getting you can see the steam escaping you know what’s going on with a pizza roll there is a certain level of mystery that you have to accept which is why it is a more enjoyable experience because you might burn the roof of your mouth it might be frozen in the middle you don’t know but that’s the fun about it so it’s almost not even the mystery of the pizza roll that appear that appeals to you it’s the sense of trust that you need a danger it’s the danger pizza rolls ride motorcycles and that’s hot also uh one reason I pizza rolls their Twitter handle is an anthropomorphized pizza roll named Pete zarol first name Pete last name zeral zero two L’s yeah so pronounced pizza roll pizza roll yes and so the fact that they’ve personified pizza rolls into a a Twitter persona I don’t want to talk smack on them because I’m afraid of hurting Pete Zero’s feelings Pete pizza roll yeah is a cultural phenomenon I think this is the first time I’ve heard about them though so just the fact that that that exists just should show how important pizza rolls are in The Culinary Canyon of the United States of America I agree with that and I think it is it is like a great little story of invention of you know uh Gino palucci using the Little Egg Roll filler to to stuff some pizza rolls but I will say I believe The Bagel Bites in pizza roll Camp y’all need a ceasefire because you are so much more alike than you are different that’s true you both love greasy little cost-cutting snack foods that could be made infinitely better if any company decided to jump into 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segment we call um faster okay on three one two three [Music] Harmony in understanding yeah you know what’s funny I say a different thing I say twitterverse internet Universe I say different things every time no one cares who cares I don’t care what you say it’s the age of casseroles all right at Doctor underscore Mythos this is a good one the hot and spicy McChicken is the perfect fast food sandwich did they is it still in the menu I don’t know because I’ve never had it but my favorite spicy chicken sandwich other than Popeyes is Jack in the Box okay Jack everyone jumped on this 99 cent yeah cheese doesn’t deserve to be honest it does not go on a fried chicken sandwich um Carl’s Jr is my favorite wow budget hot and spicy chicken sandwich and the funny thing about McDonald’s spicy McChicken is that like it it is very good so are there spicy McNuggets yeah they were good but the weird thing is like don’t associate McDonald’s with any spicy flavor profile yeah so I don’t wanna I agree I don’t think McDonald’s should be spicy McDonald’s should be base level it’s just a base agree it’s it’s there’s these like core competencies in fast food restaurants that I kind of don’t like when they stray from yeah like Taco Bell like I their chicken nuggets were good I mean their fries are good they called him like chicken nachos they’re just triangular shaped nuggies oh but they would put stuff on them like no you just they’d serve it with uh they’d serve it with just a cup of nacho cheese they put like they called their nacho fries nacho fries and they put stuff on top of them okay but they called them just like chicken nachos or Chino chicken chips chicken chips or chicken chips yeah but it was just it was a triangle nugget and like they were fine nuggets but like I’m at Taco Bell because I want that soupy beef and the fire sauce and sour cream you know what you’re getting I’m at McDonald’s because I just want hot steamy mayonnaise yeah iceberg lettuce and that spongy bun no it makes sense and so despite the fact the hot and spicy McChicken was very good it’s like not what I go to McDonald’s for and I go to Carl’s Jr to get that instead and they put instead of shreddis they do a whole sheet of Iceberg which I prefer which I pref I like that too I don’t like shredders on my chicken sandwich because you can get a denser core of Iceberg yes uh-huh thank you the crunch so smart craymond double zero says crinkle cut fries are the worst form of potato um I think they’re okay they’re not the best and they’re not the worst they’re like straight in the middle I think they’re the worst fry for no reason other than the fact that you and I’ve talked about this I don’t like shoestring you don’t like shoot I shoestrings are sometimes like Father’s Office does the shoe strings and it’s nice to like just pick up like 50 and dunk it in whatever aioli that’s just like mayonnaise and Terry on or whatever I don’t like it uh but no crinkle cut I just I get infuriated by any vegetables that are made with pinking shears oh stop it we already talked about this I know I don’t like it I love my crinkle cut knife it does so many cute things whenever I like make a platter whenever someone comes over I do a little crinkle cut on the cucumber carrot I love it I think I I like it but it’s not the best vehicle for potato there is a uh tweet from years ago from Helen Rossman one of the best food writers out there also she should definitely come on the show okay that I identify with a lot she just said like thought about making pickled red onions for dinner figured it was too precious made pickled white onions instead and I agree with that because like pickled red onions they’re precious they’re they’re pink pops uh on your plate and so many places use it for like sort of Instagram bait and like I use it for my own food precious it’s precious where’s pickled white onions yet the same flavor profile but you know people aren’t as into it because it doesn’t look as pretty and that’s how I feel crinkle got fresh I’m like they’re too precious you know you’ve shown me that you care more about the food’s appearance than the actual cook on the fries and I don’t agree with it some people can say that the surface area of the fry and it creates these divots that make picking up sauce easier yeah I’ve never had a problem picking up sauce in my fries I’ve been like oh it keeps slipping off the edge you know I I hear that argument um but you know to me they’re they’re precious they’re gilding the lily you’re so weird no offense that’s weird you think pink I I don’t understand the precious angle I think you should eat precious things I think your body is precious that you should do things that make it feel good like eat a crinkle cut fry your body’s a temple shove crinkle cut fries covered in cheese and pickled red onions that’s a good combo just just fries pick cheese and pickled onions yeah I don’t see an issue with a little dish yeah all right at WW White 1069 why is it pizza rolls and not mini calzones it’s not a roll because he owned an egg roll company which we just covered this but no I guess this this is a good question though like why brand it as a pizza roll because the lettering mini calzone would be too expensive to put on the box and pizza rolls is easier to say and it’s less money also pizza rolls came out in in the 1960s when like I don’t know how popular calzones were in the late 60s because like pizza didn’t really experience its boom in America until like the mid 50s yeah and so I’m wondering if like calzones were like you know a bridge too far and they was like oh we got this newfangled Pizza creation that’s out I own an egg roll factory smashed the two words together pizza rolls also it’s not 11 dough Rafa underscore srhs says Mayo improves bad spaghetti again with your burner accounts let’s go I can’t too many Burger accounts man enough is enough uh I’ve never put mayo in spaghetti before like this but you know I love putting Mayo in like uh pasta salads nothing wrong with that okay but here’s another question I I’ve never added Mayo to like a hot spaghetti Pomodoro before I I can imagine that I would probably enjoy it as long as the sauce isn’t hot enough to to cook it cook the mayonnaise um that said I did once make like a pasta salad with spaghetti and people were like sickened by it like you’d eat macaroni salad it’s just macaroni mayonnaise sugar and then like some other little Crunchies that’s like a very popular dish and I enjoy it so why not make make that with Sketty but slurping mayonnaise people get disgusted it’s the noodle I I firmly believe that certain noodles should shouldn’t be in other places like some noodles serve their purpose you know what I’m talking about no of course yeah I agree like pesto with long noodles doesn’t make sense to me um yeah so with like a short little noodle well not too short not like a dillatini oh yeah like wouldn’t work with pesto but like orzo would work with pesto but like long noodles like a like a tagliatelle no it doesn’t work I don’t know I want to slurp up this mayonnaise I mean I could imagine the tomato sauce mixing with the mayonnaise stick it kind of tastes like vodka sauce no no it wouldn’t it would not taste like vodka sauce Nicole’s shutting that down real fast no no no all right at Zane rafat hey from Egypt hey there from Burbank hey hey Egypt this is Burbank um Cairo is burbank’s sister city actually fun fun fact are you serious they call Cairo the Burbank of Egypt are you being serious that’s so cool mayonnaise is not a dipping sauce I disagree it’s kind of invented to be a dipping sauce it’s become a spread yeah it’s it serves as both but like just just dipping vegetables and mayonnaise like a crudite I mean you you and your mayonnaise well no that’s that’s like that’s why it was invented right like it was uh you look at the the Battle of machon or whatever the French beat the Spanish uh and then this is their Victory meal of like crudite and aioli how long ago was that I don’t know like 200 years then yeah yeah exactly 200 years ago now I understand if you think mayonnaise is a little bit off-putting I get it because we’re weak and we are uh we are not well-adjusted people anymore but yeah too weak to just just slurp down mayonnaise uh wake up sheeple Heather underscore orme says plain McDonald’s cheeseburger with tartar sauce is fire you are a sick individual all it is is Thousand Islands about the ketchup that sounds fine no no no no no no no and all the horseradish citric acid uh pickle juice I’ll let that one lie I won’t fight it all right at nominator 777 coconut shavings ruin desserts for me they are the I don’t want to say high five wait ah someone is are we quoting something or do we just have the independence no Josh this is we are singular it’s literally toasted and again for anyone trying to edit this podcast pubic hair is a natural part of life it exists it’s weirder if we don’t talk about it um but that said I love coconut shavings and not in context of the thing that we just said I mean I it’s neutral on you know I think it’s people’s own decision to put coconut on their desserts or not but anyways I I really love the meaty chew of God I can’t talk about this I enjoy coconut I’m sorry coconut shavings on my desserts I think they’re delicious and they add a nice textural contrast to a smooth silky feeling and I’m done with that concept yeah it doesn’t uh doesn’t talking about it after the first thing we said make it real weird to say anything yeah I didn’t like when I said meaty chew I said smooth silky custard or something oh speaking of which ronizi my friend ranelle hi renelle says key lime pie or flan two very different desserts here comparing them seems uh I feel like they were at a restaurant and they were just like oh God I gotta make a decision but maybe he wants to know what I want for my birthday so renelle please make me a flan I yeah flan is to me the far superior dessert I actually don’t enjoy key lime pie almost at all I’m okay with it I mean lemon and desserts is very polarizing I feel like so I put I love uh lemon bars I also love to make like curds out of passion fruit and stuff like that but lime especially key lime can be a little bit too acidic and it can like hurt my teeth sometimes yeah the coldness of the custards that’s around that I mean key limes specifically are very are they the same as kolima limes I think I think so yeah I might be wrong they’re very tart biting and they have this kind of like slight bitterness which I really enjoy in dishes like especially like a Ceviche with key lime to me is like really fantastic stick almost got this great fruitiness to it but for me key lime pie is just like very overbearing it’s overbearingly sweet and overbearingly sour and not enough to counter that yeah it was like lemon meringue pie to me is fantastic uh but flan to me is I mean what a what a fantastic dessert and so many different cultures make it my mom calls it creme caramel that’s so funny because that is essentially what it is right like one Spanish come caramel I love flan I just slurp it out of the container yeah so good I mean flan and a toothpaste too all right at Ally underscore res Ramen is better than fud don’t pit two noodle Queens against each other this is my other friend yeah this is my friend alireza who was uh my best friend in high school uh yeah I agree Ramen is better than Pho but there are two different experiences like pho has a very clean easy to eat I could eat fun every day Ramen is like a once a week like special thing for me it’s funny because so much of the ramen that we get in LA or when we think of ramen we think of tonkotsu right yes we do true super heavy pork based broth yeah but if you get like a Tori shio Ramen so like a chicken you know salt based broth which I’ve had yeah I’ve had that here too yeah super super clean like I mean really fantastic and also there’s a lot of different styles of uh you go from the north to the South you got like the you know fog ad like chicken Pho is like super light and clean um and so I mean both have different regionalities to them also though I would I would say explore different Vietnamese and Japanese noodles sure because there’s a lot of fantastic a dry Ramen but I mean you got like you know uh udon and like you know soba um a lot of great stuff and then in the Vietnamese Cannon I mean you got Boon bohoe is I mean like super rich you got the pork blood cubes in there super heavy beef broth uh me Quang another fantastic Vietnamese noodle soup there’s like a crab and tomato never heard that one before dude they’re good and also there’s a lot of Vietnamese noodle soups that are wheat Noodle and not um not rice noodle interesting and yeah anyways that’s my grandstanding when I eat ramen I just feel like it’s a treat yeah Ramen is a cheat meal and fur is just something that I guess it’s just the heaviness of the broth you know what I mean I’m I’m choosing for probably seven times out of ten maybe eight times out of ten over Ramen just because I personally prefer I love the fresh herbs love the aromatics with the star anise and cinnamon yeah uh and yeah shout out to forage in uh in Palms yeah I love foreign says put a little citric acid in cinnamon sugar please it will change your life that’s a really interesting take and I’m gonna do it hmm what do you think it would do I don’t know he or she or they say that it’s really good so I don’t know I want to try it now I’m really I’m really curious because I’ve I’ve had some desserts that have too much cinnamon in them cinnamon almost tastes a little bit sour and accurate to me when it gets overbearing and so I would be like I’m curious if the citric acid almost like faces that and kind of like you know neutralizes that that tendency that I would taste it or if it’ll just make it worse for me but either way we have all these ingredients in the kitchen we should try it for sure if I can can grandstand again for a second salt all your desserts way more heavily like salt them like you would a steak salt my desserts all the time I even saw I salted my oatmeal this morning I always salt my oatmeal and it makes everything more delicious it makes the berries more Berry makes the cinnamon more cinnamony it makes the oat more oaty salt is the baseline from which all flavor harmonies are written and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every Wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on Twitter at mythical Chef or anhandizade with the hashtag opinion casserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on YouTube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on Instagram at mythical kitchen we only 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