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that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole handy zade today nicole we’re taking on a discussion that means a lot to both of us i believe yes and you and i both grew up in southern california we yeah we’re huge fans of mexican food we grew up eating it on the regular all the time all the time but every time you go to a taqueria in l.a well or is it a burrito i mean you’re all space of the choice right i mean there’s there’s obviously a panoply a panoply of options in the mexican food cannon involving tortillas but we’re not getting into vampiros or molitas or taquitos or tequila or machetes oh it’s like this it’s this taco it’s like three feet long um uh patricia patricia escarsega the l.a times wrote about this place that serves machetes and i got one they’re like this three foot long folded quesadilla wow anyways burrito versus taco that’s that’s a classic case study it’s classic for some but it’s clear for me it’s clear always tacos oh wait for real though all those tacos what do you think the percentages uh like whenever i like personally yeah like talk okay so i consume much more tacos than i do burritos but that’s only because you consume like three tacos per one burrito if not more no yeah that’s that’s the normal uh mathematical equation three to one a three to one ratio three a three to one ratio of times you’re ordering tacos not total tacos consumption no total taco but today like three tacos satisfies me the way one burrito does no for sure but i’m saying like if you go to a restaurant that offers burritos and tacos of roughly equivalent quality right so you’re not going like a taco specialist or a burrito specialist you’re going to um you know uh what’s what’s the spot taco oh god pink taco what a terrible example i don’t know well yeah but so okay god dang it i don’t know what else to say you said the one over there and i know that way sunset so i said okay it’s a pink taco okay potatoes i was talking about alfredo’s and burbank you’ve never been to alfredo bro alfredo’s it reminds me of like the san diego county style taquerias that do like the carne asada fries i don’t hang out in burbank i don’t i don’t explore burbank no offense burbank i love the local burbank mexican seed okay say um what’s the publitos publitos tacos in burbank we we enjoy them yes are you going tacos or burritos always tacos always always oh that interesting okay let me tell you why please okay number one when i i like the individuality of a taco it fits well in my hand i enjoy it i savor it it drips a little bit whatever it’s a little bit messy but it’s perfect bites each time which i really enjoy it’s normally my taco order is is taco meat salsa a little bit of onion a little bit of cilantro that’s my typical taco of choice i’m soft what what are you gonna ask me sorry i just interrupt people well it’s not interesting it’s fine you can interrupt me i was gonna i was gonna ask if you were ordering the same type of taco or if you always go for the variety because if that’s important to you i totally understand uh sometimes i’m a variety girl sometimes i just you know i just want straight up carne asada sometimes straight up just one chorizo when you okay so um tacos 1986 is a great example of like they i mean they have multiple good tacos right they do that that like mushroom masada oh my god their mushroom tacos are the best thing i’ve ever had in a long time it’s really a sonora town where it’s like their continent sauda is like what you go to get yeah like do you do you veer off i’m trying to suss out if you are someone who variety just means a lot to you or are you just getting like four carne asada tacos and just hammering them home most of the time okay so my typical uh taco tr can i give you my taco truck order taco truck shout out shout out uh i love el chattano is my number one taco zone is number two uh and leo’s is number three those are my favorites i always get a i always get a carne asada i always get a poll and i always get a lengua those are the three i always get and then i get cilantro and onion and then i get a lot of radishes on the side a lot of lime on the side i love the escape yeah i don’t always get the escobache that’s an appetizer for me yeah that’s going to be the pickled carrot jalapeno onion correct oregano in there yeah it’s a good appetizer but i don’t like it too i don’t think it accentuates my tacos i think it takes away from my tacos fair enough but yeah i just get three of those and i’m satisfied i’m sitting on the corner of the of the floor no i’m sitting in my mind i’m sitting in my truck i’m sitting in the trunk not in my truck i’m sitting in my trunk i’m enjoying myself i’m listening to music whatever like i burrito does not happen it i can’t do that with a burrito even if i’m at a restaurant i can’t just pick up an even helping baby and shove my mouth around it’s an eight pound newborn burrito wrapped in four yeah like there’s like even a even like a burrito with uh what is it called like wet style mojado yeah burrito mojado like there’s no elegant way to eat that either there’s no elegant way to eat a taco either but it’s a little bit more it’s it’s easier to eat for me personally it’s easier for me to consume it’s easier for me to eat also a burrito’s a lot of food tacos burrito’s a commitment and i you know i’m a gemini i have commitment issues everybody knows that anyways and it’s it just makes more sense for me to eat tacos just makes like maybe i want a little bit more hot sauce on this one maybe i want a little bit more lime on this one maybe you know i’m just gonna go crazy and just eat it the way it is like i don’t the burrito is too much for me to handle i feel like when we started this out you should have said i like tacos because i’m a gemini and that’s it that’s it you’re done um nicole i used to be like you and i need to know that i used to be like you were where i valued this variety in my life and i would go to my favorite taco truck and my favorite taco truck is tacos tomics um they used to park out in palms by by the smart final and i had a ritual i would go taco tommy they got the best all pastor in the city so much better than leo’s i love leo’s leos is fantastic this is much of insular la taco knowledge but know that leos they’re open till like 3 a.m and you would stop there after the bars and they would have this giant spit of all pastor on the open flame fire roaring you can hear and smell the pork fat and pineapple sizzling on it there’d be a line of 50 people but it’s such a well-run operation which is to me a huge part of like taqueria culture it’s got to be really well run they got it just i mean the tortilla the clockwork the tortilla comes off the flat top meat goes inside immediately you’re at the salsa bar in 30 seconds shoving it in your mouth yup it’s absolutely lovely should be eaten but tacos tomics they don’t have all the flair and they don’t have all the fanfare but they have the best al pastor marinade it is just so much warm spice in chili and pineapple and the pork is beautifully fatty and stained red but i used to go there every wednesday after uh going to was it bigfoot lodge west you go there it’s a bar yeah that’s the one that is a cabin yeah yeah it’s like cabin thing it’s a cabin i have been there three times so they i they they used to have a trivia night that i would go to every single wednesday shut up really it was so awesome and they had five dollar uh happy hour before like 8 p.m so you like load up on five dollar old fashions in manhattan sounds like fun so i’d be a couple cocktails deep just on a wednesday night doing a thing and then we would always go to tacos comics and i would get you know four alpha store tacos okay uh and so they’re not quite as clockworky because they’re a food truck they don’t have the outdoor operation and so i would notice i would eat the first taco beautiful hot styled to my liking and then the second taco a little less hot you know and so you’re eating through it and then by the time you get to the fourth taco it’s just cold one you’re like three five dollar manhattan’s deep and so you don’t really care yeah but i i made a decision one day a very fateful day that i would get the alpha store burrito okay which is like so in la doesn’t have i mean we obviously have a huge burrito culture but you know uh people mostly credit say the mission style burrito which is what chipotle copied you know okay so you mean like mission like like san francisco mission exactly yeah so this was started at like um alpha great mex you’re gonna i know it’s like i’ll thoroughly do that oh my god oh my god that’s life oh my god that is the best burrito i’ve ever had yes i ate a burrito there it was so good yeah so san francisco in the mission district they have el farolito la taqueria there’s like el toro bravo there’s a couple other really big great burrito meccas in san francisco yeah but they put the rice the beans the sour cream the avocado all the sauces all that yup it’s what chipotle copied they copied the mission style i had no idea yeah and so now that’s become really popular but la like we don’t necessarily have that and even if you go to san diego they got their own burrito culture i love it i do too i grew up in oceanside for a time my dad lived there parents divorced spent summers there you know that whole song and dance yeah but anyways you know i’d take uh 2.49 and i would go down to a place just called toes because in san diego especially they there’s like albertos there’s albert tacos there’s albatros there’s all these mexican restaurants that albatross yeah i mean it’s albatross but this place is called toast and i and i would get you know they’re like carne asada and potato burrito with the guac smeared on it was really funny it was dank point is ellie doesn’t have like a huge burrito culture if you’re going to a taco truck you’re typically getting tacos yeah the burrito i understand what you’re saying but i still think there’s a few restaurants that are like burrito well one of my my favorite restaurant and uh friend friend of the show uh burritos la palma yeah that’s great oh my gosh but anyways i got this alpa store burrito and i was worried that you wouldn’t let the alpa store meat shine because it had rice and beans in this burrito and all this except every single bite of this was the best bite of anything i’ve had in my life and you can add hot sauces to the different bites and then the rice just gives it like a warm hug i know you’re anti-rice and bread i am anti-rice and no burrito but the rice just soaks up the hot sauce you know they got the four different salsas and the salsa bar soaking up the habanero soaking up the arbol soaking up the tomatillo where are you getting the crunchy onions in there the beans are just this little velvet blanket making the apple store marinade travel across your palate nicole what i’m saying is burritos are king because they are a warm hug inside your mouth hole you don’t even like my burritos hug your mouth you don’t even like hugging it’s true every time i say it’s like a warm hug it’s just like in theory for me yeah it goes right don’t like human contact yeah you hate hugs yeah i refuse we’ve known each other for like two years i i think we’ve hugged like once and i was like you we’ve never hugged i’ve only held your hand by force now it’s too late to start now it’s weird i only forced you to hold my hand one time yeah when was that i don’t know i don’t like it uh it’s sticky okay let me i’m the sticky one i’m gonna stick you i’m all sticky so yeah sticky let me okay what about this okay what happens whenever your burrito is an uneven burrito have you ever had it uneven doesn’t that anger you don’t you just want to punch a wall whenever the guacamole is on the bottom and it’s cold and it’s making everything else cold i’m a bit of a pacifist so as far as like punching walls are concerned no but that that is a very fair point so you you but i think with tacos and burritos there’s a certain amount of trust you need to have with the maker of it right okay because things can ruin a taco like that but i will say uneven burritos i have a technique um you ever seen the karate kid no okay so daniel sound right so he got wraps ralph macchio yeah in the all valley karate tournament he gets hurt and then um this is a bit of a train well there’s a crane kick but before that he gets hurt and he can’t go on so pat morita mr miyagi he kind of rubs his hand together in a mystical way which this gets into some weird like orientalization stuff in movies in the 80s in japanophilia um so you know it doesn’t age that super well but always he rubs his hands together and he kind of places him on daniel and he like magically heals him i have a technique to do that but with burritos that are uneven where i rub my hands together and then the like a pretty offensive japanese music plays uh-huh and then i massaged the insides of the burrito and i swear to god i do no you don’t i’ve never seen you do this you’ve never seen me burrito massage let’s do it in the bathroom massaging my burrito in the bathroom i have three carne asada burritos right in the fridge and you can massage into your heart chipotle i’m sorry they had to be they’re the king of uneven burritos also chipotle i think does give burritos a bad name and i would like to introduce the theory that chipotle serves raps and not burritos okay well i don’t have time for that but you know you can ask for the chipotle burritos mix you gotta say can you mix it a little bit and they physically like pick up the tortilla and then go wobble i know this because my friend’s brother used to work there and he used to be like yeah sure and then he would just like [ __ ] me up what else you gonna do mash it with your hands i don’t know what else can you do can you do but tacos okay let me tell you what it is when you are a homeowner versus you rent an apartment okay yeah burrito home big true investment true investment so anything can go wrong you know tacos smaller easier to manage so you’re saying that you’re you’re going to rent your whole life no no no no i’m not saying that i’m not saying that no what about like a like a like a shared co-op townhome situation is that like a mole it’s a movie though okay that makes sense i understand i understand no no let me tell you it’s just it’s a commitment a burrito is a commitment and it’s just too much and if i get a burrito i’m gonna eat all of it i will eat yes from tip to toe i will eat every single i will suck the foil i don’t care i’m crazy tacos uh it is a lit you know it’s a little bite i know what i’m doing i know what i’m getting and i’m not gonna overeat i don’t have an off button when it comes to burritos when it comes to mexican food in general i like even if i get like a plate if i get a chili with all of the rice and the beans i’ll eat all of it and like tacos create a world where i don’t need to overstuff myself with mexican food i can get however much i want and enjoy it and savor it i know that okay i’m good tacos are like a nice light healthy meal honestly like when i’m like eating in my what i consider my healthy face which is actually now i’m gonna go home and i have flat meat marinating uh in just like a delicious carne asada marinade good uh and i’m just gonna eat just three carne asada tacos sluiced with guacamole and to me that’s like my that’s like the most like the closest i come to a diet meal yeah or carne asada tacos tacos are like your go-to yeah i mean like when i am uh just super hungry like i’m a bigger person i’m like a 215 pound gentleman there is no burrito in the world nicole that can stop me i’m serious i ate a six pound burrito from el tapayak in under 10 minutes that’s crazy that’s six pounds of food i mean it was just uh no they gave me a t-shirt i think that’s nice of that i ate a pound of yogurt land after oh did you throw up yeah but also because i drank josh i didn’t throw up i didn’t like binge drink i just like i had a couple beers so i was like i was trying to calm my stomach down but then you had the pound of dairy six pounds of burrito and like a couple of modelos on top of it yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s just gonna cause the materials because the medela starts frothing against the yogurt lamps yeah it makes total sense it was actually as far as the thermo-up experience it was more pleasant than it could have been yeah sometimes that happens you need the yogurtland to coat yeah yeah yeah i totally know what you mean okay another point i have against burritos okay until i started working here i did not know the art of rolling a burrito so also like sometimes my fingers get like weird and like stay in a certain position don’t know is that arthritis i don’t know but like does nicole have arthritis this is a hot dog’s sandwich my stance yeah i think so you look like you would have arthritis you’re so embarrassed i embarrass myself and then you allow me to become more embarrassed but like it’s just it’s just the folding and like it’s an effort like the taco all you gotta do is okay so this is how i warm up my tacos before i dress them so i literally turn on the flame i put the i put the taco down and then it gets hot on open flame on an open flame on the burner on the burner and then i flip it and then i eat it like the whole burrito takes a lot longer you gotta put it on you gotta griddle it you can’t grill it too much because then it gets too crispy and then what happens when i get too crispy gotta start all over again what happens whenever it’s not griddled enough it starts to break because it’s still raw like what is that i feel like i feel that there is um i think a deceptive skill to burrito rolling and i think anyone who has been to i mean we just talked about the whole chipotle thing but anyone who has seen the quality drop in chipotle rolling skills right knows i mean people are just wrapping it into these like square diapers uh so there’s a skill to it but i mean that’s why i do love specific like burrito specialists like you go to la este tortilla and you get the chili random burrito and to me that is a master class in burrito architecture and something that has i mean as much skill as you know say the best taco and the people who are making the best you know uh organic freshly nyx tamalized corn tortillas in la to me i have so much reverence for the burrito artisans of the world and burritos la palma is actually funny i mean one we have to talk about the fact that there is a when i say a large subset of people i mean bill esparza a dude who used to write together at la magazine who who very strongly believes that a burrito is a taco i think belief is even an understatement like he will just state it as fact that burrito is a regional name for a type of taco okay i mean i’m not going to argue that like i think they’re similar enough that i mean he he seems like if he was a writer like no i mean i know you’re a writer too but like he wrote books about like this is who he is and like if he states it like i have no choice but to believe him agreed because it’s it’s what he knows and what he knows best but i like josh it’s just so hard for me to rule the burrito myself have have you been to burritos the palmetto yes so burrito’s of palma i mean those are they’re they’re quite small for what we would consider burritos yes and i actually used to think that they were doing a regional style of burrito because a lot of people think that the burrito is like an american invention um which it’s it’s not i mean it the name the etymology is all kind of shady burrito obviously it’s the diminutive form of burrow which means donkey some people think it’s because an early vendor who was serving agricultural workers rode in on a donkey and carried you know these bigger meals in a flour tortilla so they stayed warmer for the workers and whatnot okay um some people think it’s because it looks like the the rolled packs on a donkey um what was i talking about uh well you said oh burritos oh yeah etymology and then you started talking about burials of paul money you’re like did you have it i said yeah that’s right i was saying that a lot of people think that burritos are an american invention but they were no they were invented in mexico and they’ve been growing wheat in like the state of sonora um for the last 500 years uh and then different parts of mexico like i know in baja in ensenada flour tortillas are really big um like one of my favorite burritos they actually call it a burrito it’s from uh feminine happy international women’s day this is what we’re recording today josh give me 16.50 yeah i didn’t know how to support women on today because everyone on twitter just seems to be really bungling it so i just venmo nicole and v yeah that was a good idea i don’t know like you know support your local women i’m gonna get yourself maggie i’m i’ll venmo you too i’m sorry i didn’t you know it was the first time we’ve seen each other today uh point is they’re like like burritos are you know authentic mexican food in a lot of regions some people in mexico may not have grown up with them of course um but then they’ve been like co-opted by the taco bells and the del tacos of the world yeah however burritos la palma is my single favorite bite of food nelly they’re they’re chicharron burritos they’re chicken tinga with the potato changed my life that’s my fourth favorite burrito burrito’s apartment and it is still one of the best that’s my fifth favorite burrito in fact i will show shells to we rank them yeah okay number one chicken tinga number two berea number three don’t remember number four i don’t know number five bean and cheese bean and cheese bean cheese they’re beanie cheeses okay yeah it’s chicken tinga it’s birya corn queso it’s the bean and cheese and then it’s the chicharron desert is their other one i didn’t care for it yeah i’m gonna be honest i didn’t really care for it but the point is they they originally came from um sakatecas mexico and i always thought that they were doing that’s where their original restaurant was located okay i also thought they were doing a regional style of burrito okay that’s from soccer they guess but it’s just like their own thing pretty much they kind of just like invented these small little like rolled burritos on their you know homemade flour tortillas uh which are freaking fantastic but they are the size of tacos right if you just unfurled those it would be a taco de gisado you go down to another taqueria like asadero chicali which also makes some of the best flour tortillas and gisato’s god i’m god i love tacos you ate mikey soda i just yelled i love tacos as i’m arguing pro burritos yeah i don’t know what you’re talking about me neither but anyway what i’m saying is like the forms are indistinguishable sometimes a small enough burrito is very indistinguishable from a taco it’s only the tips just tuck the tip just tuck the tip nicole why is this confusing to you it’s not confusing to me i just i have a preconceived notion of a burrito and a burrito is a burrito a taco is a taco man and the two of things are different for me but i understand they fall under the same umbrella and they can be used interchangeably if you choose to believe so if you choose to believe so yeah i just like tacos man they’re easier for me i’m i know i love i love effort i love putting in a little extra bit of pizzazz i just it’s tacos it’s always tacos it’s always been tacos when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the 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approaching vehicles the thing that a burrito can never hit because a taco can be on flour or corn tortillas right a burrito like by definition you can’t actually i just read a story about it one before on a corn tortilla yeah like a corn there’s just no there’s no gluten in corn so like a pure corn tortilla won’t make the full fold although i like just came across a headline that said someone was doing a corn tortilla burrito maybe it’s a fusion maybe they put a little bit of flour a little bit of corn to give it a little bit of like derp i don’t think it’s cheating i think it’s ingenuity it’s ingenuity ingenuity yeah by nicole it smells like trunk tacos the only truly funny thing to come out of that whole presidency was the taco salad at trump tower with him thumbs up and saying we love hispanics and eating the least uh mexican dish in the world that’s probably like a 25 salad yeah yeah yeah you know what it is no you know exactly what that tastes like do you know how much sour cream has no business being 25 dollars let me just tell you that but yeah if i wasn’t doing this i would probably be an abnormal sexual psychologist and if i wasn’t doing that i’d probably be in the perfume industry i’d be a paranormal sexual psychologist i’d be hunting down sexy ghost stories you know trying to find out what i’m saying is always bullying me i’m saying that the only thing i truly miss uh in terms of tacos or burritos is the beauty of the best corn tortilla you’ve ever had which can be otherworldly and there’s so many places doing awesome corn tortillas sure in l.a i mean from the high high end you guys go down to guys like carlos salgado at taco maria who are making these like beautiful blue corn tortillas all the dudes at macienda at colonel of truth but i mean even even before that i mean i remember eating guisados was like oh yeah one of the first just like fresh made corn tortillas that wasn’t made from like maseca which is like the pre-made masa stuff um and uh it was like otherworldly and that beauty of the corn is something i miss with a burrito but god they’re just so satisfying like what i imagine people experience when they hug other people because i don’t but what i imagine they experience that’s what my mouth experiences no no i don’t know what it is it’s over have you ever been hugged by someone and it’s overwhelming that’s what a burrito is to me when someone hugs you too long you’re just like and your hands like the shortest of hugs are overwhelming no no it’s like someone’s hugging you for a long time and they’re like they’re like they’re like squeezing their nose in your eye and you’re just like oh my god like and your hands are too decided just like get off of me like that’s what a burrito is sometimes it’s overbearing it’s too much for me to handle but a burrito’s a palma burrito isn’t for too much for me to handle because it’s an acute compact size yeah i don’t know i mean i mean it’s just it’s just i’m talking about like the ease of well also some people would would disagree with me and say that a burrito is much easier to eat than a taco i do believe that so i i um i mean one we should talk about like fast food burritos and tacos yeah one time i had an el pollo loco burrito that had the french fries in it and uh it was really easy to eat and i really enjoyed it and i ate in my car and i was just like zoom zoom and i was eating it was great yeah el pollo look they started doing tapatio flavored french fries if you have them that’s the one i thought when he had us again so i had chicken i think i think i said no rice it was chicken it was beans it was tapatio french fries and nacho cheese bro and and you couldn’t get that in a taco it wouldn’t make sense it wouldn’t make sense it’s a taco it was it was a fentanyl but the bottom what happened to the bottom josh what happened tonight did it did it unfurl did it roll did it get through oh the sour cream was located in the butt sour cream was all in the butt and i didn’t like that well have you ever had someone like really scrub a taco like griddle the tortilla for too long so it’s almost like it’s a pre it’s like a mission pre-made tortilla so it’s kind of waxy and crappy but even at that point i can soak it in salsa and it fixes itself it fixes itself burritos don’t have that ability to to you know be versatile enough to fix themselves once you screw it up you screw it up and that’s it and you can’t open it and re-fix it you’ve you’ve made your bed now you got to lie in it burritos are about consistency for better or worse tacos are about uh innovation and variety yeah all about innovation and variety what’s funny is i i typically am too but i think i find enough innovation and variety within my own burrito eating experiences nicole you’ve seen me eat a meal more than once it’s probably pretty upsetting sometimes the way i do it the way you ate your egg this morning you made soup egg and it was great yeah i made a i toasted toast in a pan and then i got scorching hot and then i just threw some eggs in there and i very unceremoniously flopped them on top of a piece of bread i folded it in half so all the yolk exploded and i put hot sauce on it and i soaked it all up yeah anyways what i’m saying is i really enjoy playing with my food in that sense so every time i sit down to a meal especially burrito i literally will take six to seven bottles of hot sauce and i will just unload uh different hot sauces on each bite so to me i’m almost creating that variety within a tent pole of consistency right and that’s why i’ve seen you eat yes yes yes yes yes so i think nicole you and i are more similar than different i don’t think so i think it’s very different you just like people hugging you and my body goes through like physical convulsions i love being hugged i love reassuring touch on the shoulder i church hug i’ve been informed that i church hug i i hook around and i do not let my body touch anyone but why hugs are so lovely nah it’s gross people just feel my heat yeah what do you mean you share the warmth it’s nice but you ever hug someone and then they hug you and then they like push you in have you ever hugged someone they’re like no i i don’t like that also people tend to shy away from me when i try and hug them so it’s created a sort of you know whirlpool effect of neither of us wanting to hug the other and that’s the way i prefer it just the way i prefer burritos over tacos i don’t know man i like tacos and i like hugs so if you see me don’t give me a hug just ask and then also give me a talk yeah if you ever think about hugging me give me a burrito instead um that’d be really advisable i think i think we’d both get out of that one feeling better i don’t know man this is i mean at the end of the day like i am staunch in my waist is that the right word yeah i’m stunned i am staunch taco supporter i’m a stunt taco supporter are there any other because we mentioned like molita’s quesadillas okay because that i mean like julia is a quesadilla fiend i cannot that’s how i recorded that’s how i courted julia was i would like i remember once i was going under going over to her apartment it was maybe like our fourth or fifth date things that started to get a little bit serious yeah and we’re planning on going out with our friends uh and i brought over just a thing of tortillas and a pound of shrimp and a block of monterey jack cheese wow and she was like what did you why did you why do you have raw shrimp with you showing up to a person on like the fourth time and i was like you’re going to see you’re going to see it later and then like you know 2 am rolls around and i’m in there frying up shrimp in our house in our house yeah in our apartment deglazing with chipotle yeah dude i made her like a chipotle shrimp quesadilla at two in the morning um she let you cook shrimp in the house yeah that’s the special mom we have love you julia i don’t know if i went on a date with someone for the first time and i said hey honey here’s the bag of raw shrimp you’ll see in a few hours but this is about yeah i’d be like get the get in my house and i’d keep the trip you use physical intimacy like hugs to show love i use a pound of shrimp and that is where we really differ i love quesadillas there was a period of time during culinary school when my palette was just so overloaded with foods and like different things that i would just go home in like a days like i smelled like cigarette smoke and i had stains all over my shirt and i would just literally take a tortilla flop it put cheese on it flop it put it in the microwave put it back into the toaster oven oh no then i would eat it and then i’ll go to bed like i did that ritual for about three months i i i went through a weird phase where all i would do is get um organic corn tortillas because i really like them like the the good quality stuff yeah and i would get like refried beans in a can and i’d add a couple dashes of hot sauce and water microwave them and then just use the tortilla as a claw to swipe beans and just suck it down and i was eating that like three days a week like just just out of like you said your palate gets overloaded we’re cooking so much crazy stuff here yeah but sometimes it’s like i don’t need anything but the promise of just like bean and tortilla or cheese and tortillas totally i think it’s beautiful yeah i think in the tacos versus burritos battle quesadillas win really oh my god i love quesadillas no i i think to me they’re i think you’re you’re limited by the oh god i do want a lobster quesadilla right now i love quesadillas all right quesadilla you are officially crowned the champion you can put anything in a quesadilla you could put avocados in the quesadilla you could put uh squash blossoms in a quesadilla i’ve been on real big quesadilla you weren’t gonna do that shrimp in quesadillas i knew it i knew it i do think okay i don’t know i love quesadillas but i’m still a taco girl throwing through i i will hold fast in my varied burrito relationship there are so many burritos that i love shout out to cilantro mexican grill up in north hollywood shout out to pablito’s taco shout out to the current the carne asada burrito at corner deli and grill on the west side the one that’s in the chevron i don’t know what you’re talking about dude i got a whole list of gas station burritos that slap in la we’ll we’ll talk about it we’ll talk after there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on 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butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to claim this deal [Music] nicole you no you say this time nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what wacky ideas are rattling around they’re in the toilet over there twitter in the twitter it’s time for a segment we call opinions i like casserole [Music] i’m sorry i i had it i thought you crushed it twitter voice twitter voice and nicole we heard what you and i had to say all right all right first up we got the real chamill kraft mac and cheese should be outlawed for crimes against cheese i’m all for outlawing things that you don’t personally like i like i think we should ban raw celery i think anyone who eats raw celery in the home you know should just be sort of like rounded up in a paddy wagon what about celery juice oh celery juice as well yeah that’s right it’s gotta be cooked gotta be braised celery juice um no i i understand though craft mac and cheese it has a very chemical taste like if you’re someone who’s only eaten real cheese and then you eat that obviously there is real cheese in there it’s dehydrated and powdered etc but it’s got a very unique like nutritional yeasty chemically taste absolutely along with the food dye which i believe now is just paprika extract and uh in turmeric um because they got the food dye out of it uh but yeah i can see how someone would think this but also it’s such a nostalgic flavor for me that i love it yeah i love kraft mac and cheese i don’t think it should be outlawed at all i think it should be given a medal of honor so opposite chop up some hebrew natties in there no i never did that but i did put a lot of buffalo sauce on it and green onions yeah oh that’s smart that’s smart okay mariah wears cook socks says chewy chips ahoy suck i love these i ate so many chewy chips ahoy at my best friend deep’s house in high school uh they’re like they’re addictive and the way they do it so good have you really googled how they do no i don’t care i want the mystery i want the mystery i don’t care i don’t care you don’t want me to tell you fine i’ll leave normally tell me tell me what i’m saying you make a cookie that’s chewy and then you wait a couple days and then it becomes like hard right like that’s you know cookies they’ll like harden as they dehydrate and stuff yes yeah but but these it’s it’s literally a different type of sugar it’s like using dextrose for sucrose yeah one of them uh like will maintain a chewy texture very cool for a long time yeah i again this is another very chemically food to me that is also very delicious chewy chips ahoy what a lovely texture delicious one of my favorites also normal chips they’re good man i don’t like normal chips oh boy no too crunchy for me tates yeah tate shirt tate they’re the best crispy and buttery yeah yeah yeah famous amos oh my god debbie used to bring famous to school every day and i would steal a cookie favorite favorite pre-packaged cookie though ginger snaps and also you’re alone on that smart and final they got a great brand of ginger snaps first street ginger snaps i’m a big lotus biscoff cookie oh yeah those are good yeah one time milano oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no well i resent milanos because the rich the rich pretty kids in my school would bring them yeah yeah don’t do that all right we got natty more french toast is best eaten smothered with cheese whiz and maple syrup well this uh makes me vaguely sick to think about yeah me too it makes my tummy go a french toast is well nicole we talked about doing this for the podcast but decided there is no great way to sort of communicate it and we don’t think anyone cares about us no no no no no no but you know what i’m talking about the french thing french toast is custard no i believe french toast the bare minimum it’s let’s have this let’s have this argument now let’s see let’s do it okay fine i don’t care i’ve got anything to do this is my whole day yeah i think hanging out with you yeah do it you’re not hugging us just the bare minimum is is is bread that has been dredged in whisked egg that’s it yes okay but i realized what about milk okay it needs to be with milk or cream or half and half or almond milk and egg i i think that you may be right and i realize i have a skewed version on this because my family is from south africa right and apparently south africa they eat some one correct me if i’m wrong and i’m sure i am i believe called eggy bread which is literally just you know egg and bread but i grew up eating that and my grandma called it french toast because that was kind of like her american translation but eggy bread is served uh and we used to eat this eggy bread i would put maple syrup on because that was french toast but then it’s really just bread eggs and maple um but i was talking to uh shout out to grant muirhead uh my old gym buddy who’s from durban south africa and he was talking about this and he was like yeah i might we put ketchup on it that’s not how grant sounds like why don’t you say that but they put ketchup on eggy bread and he he told me about when he went to like new york for the first time he put maple syrup on or someone served maple syrup with french toast and he was so confused because he was like this is eggy bread just ketchup on it no yeah so i i now understand that this is just a cultural mix up on my bed yeah say sorry i’m sorry venmo me a dollar oh yeah another dollar god jeez i’m broke out here uh yeah this does not sound good at all and i wouldn’t do this i just want to do this no no cheese was maple syrup that does not appeal to me at all ts hukita 95 says plain lays chips wait hold on plain lay’s chips dipped in mustard okay uh yeah i am no i’ve done that before that sounds like a nice little loaf low fat low carb dipping sauce i don’t get it but okay it’s funny people who i like i know a lot of athletes and and bodybuilder type people and when they’re trying to cut and stuff um like if i’m ever looking for a calorie-free condiment uh hot sauce to me is the way to go right citrus herbs chilies it’s great calorie-free you know healthy old thing totally but i know a weird amount of people uh buddy nick scarvelo is a pro shot putter he would just carry around a thing of mustard and he would like squirt mustard on his rice but anyways i i started just doing that i started dipping weird things in mustard because i saw him putting it on rice yeah it’s pretty tasty a lot of people do a lot of people that are health conscious and they’re trying to like cut do that mustard is nice yeah mustard mustard dips dip some chips and mustard also mustard’s like uh it’s one of those things it gets paired with ketchup and hot dogs so much yeah that people sort of denigrate it for how complex the condiment is totally uh there’s so much more than just yellow american ballpark mustard yeah yeah gray poupon all right we got a fun a fun leash our cake doughnuts donuts or just mini bundt cakes i’ve talked about this before i i don’t know i don’t know where i stand with this anymore i used to say that cake doughnuts are not donuts that a donut has to be a yeast risen dough and that cake doughnuts satisfy an entirely different thing but then you’re starting then you get into curlers right because curlers are pata shoe but they’re all served at donut shops so cake donuts which is like a white batter that’s fried oh i don’t know i consider a cake doughnut a doughnut it’s in the shape of a doughnut what’s the shape of a doughnut uh round with a hole so you’re telling me a maple bar is not a donut uh it’s a bar you’re saying a maple bar is not a donut but a cake don’t it is yeah gt f the all the way out of here i can i work here yeah that’s fake yeah actually don’t leave we have a lot of stuff yeah i got a lot of yeah please stay please stay um but no i uh this might be something where we have to to go a whole podcast into because i mean you don’t think so i mean there are all these different types of dough what links them all together fried dough these are all fried dough donut then you’re talking about elephant ears what about a funnel cake a doughnut you’re not letting me speak sorry i’m sorry i think women’s day you think a bar i think a maple bar is fried dough i think a donut is a fried dough i think cake doughnuts are a sect of donut do you think the the shape of a donut has to be around for it to be a donut no it doesn’t have to be but i prefer it to be so the the donut is like the phylum oh yeah yeah i just realized i don’t know science yeah yeah yeah i know where you’re going and we should talk about this on the podcast elms7346 says scrambled eggs tastes better with peanut butter salt and pepper mix in to give creaminess i think we we tried something similar like this with sriracha and it didn’t really work no um there’s something i love putting peanut butter and a lot of things and recently i just started putting tahini in a bunch of things because i oh yeah it’s so hard to buy a small amount of tahini yeah impossible you gotta buy the big jar you gotta buy the big fourteen dollar side f1 um and so i’ve just been tossing it and everything i made like a tahini hot sauce it was really lovely um so i’m down to try some like tahini and fine herbs scrambled eggs but the peanut butter and eggs didn’t really work for me sounds gross um yeah it’s not my thing but i i do love the fact that people will put peanut butter in anything yeah and peanut butter hot dog not bad i would i would want to thin the peanut butter out with a little hot dog water first though at noel underscore vitaly you think i’m kidding i ain’t kidding boiling hard-boiled eggs for too long doesn’t actually matter do you want to take it you go okay is that by the gray okay yeah we’re talking about the gray the gray little uh what do you want to call it the the ring of death it’s a great ring yeah the sulfury ring of death so it does matter because the the sulfur i believe releases and it creates this ring and it makes an unpleasant eggy smell and taste i grew up in a home that my all of my eggs all of the eggs had a great film around them all of them every single darn hard boiled egg i had a great great freaking film on it but then i learned oh my god like you can take it out in like 10 minutes and it’s like totally delicious and beautiful and yellow and perfectly cooked in the center and it tastes good wow i used to think it didn’t matter until i had a perfectly cooked hard-boiled egg yeah and then i was like oh that’s what this thing is supposed to taste like yeah um i don’t know i’d have to like actually double check the googling on the science of the thing because i feel like there may be something that we don’t know about egg chemistry and whatnot but from my personal experience yeah just boiling them for forever and ever it’s almost like a meat like you can over braise meat to the point where it’s so tender that it almost becomes dry in a way yes you know it kind of turns in like chewing gum in your teeth and you suck all the liquid out you still got this like meat pulp so i think you can’t overcook hard boiled eggs at urban underscore hobbit as a former new jerseyan i just want more anger about tony bolognese what is tony makes the most viral food on instagram really like insider you know food insider uh thrillist all these places that traffic and food virality this guy with the crazy pizzas yeah they’ll make like they’re the ones that made a pizza box out of pizza crust they put like 50 tacos in a bunch of guacamole on a pizza um we we talked about him in our our food instagram video i think i don’t want to speak for you but i think we probably both look at him and be like good good job you did it this is the hustle i really appreciate the work he does and also a lot of it looks really freaking good he did the thing where he like wrapped and the semantics of a lot of those things get a little bit murky because he’s like taking a whole pizza and he’s like wrapping up like a chicken parm sandwich in it and he’s calling it like a burrito and stuff um but that said like he he has he has a sandwich right now that is a bone-in beef rib and like a hoagie roll that’s his sandwich can you remove the bone oh my god what is satisfying tony baloney like i mean love him or hate him uh genius makes very craveable looking food really does you may think it’s leading to the downfall of rome i just think i want to put that freaking beef rib sandwich in my mouth me too but i’m mad too as someone who’s heard of new jersey yeah me too i’m mad about it oh this next one’s getting nicole irvina 86 says imitation crab is the most underrated protein yeah i think it’s underrated too i will i will snack on the sticks i snack on the sticks i eat them i eat them like a like a string cheese surimi does not get enough love man it doesn’t so i mean it doesn’t what is it it’s typically like pollock or a fish a very heavily fished yeah pollock that’s like you know pretty much like ground down and processed with like sugar and salt and delicious things and if you have food dye to give it that that kind of orange um but god is it just i mean delicious it’s really and it’s what keeps my california rolls at two dollars and forty nine cents from from sushi stop so i agree yes this is a very very good opinion well done no food’s imitation no food is fake if i can eat it if i can eat it that’s real food this ain’t imitation crab this is this is a connie comma just call it what’s called huh i think kanikama is a more accurate name for i think that’s the mixture like that you’d put in california roll oh okay i’ll just call it serene just don’t call me late for dinner my dad always said that i never knew what it meant i’m hungry you just ate a salad exactly a salad isn’t food you know it’s like it’s like drinking coffee doesn’t hydrate you like eating salad doesn’t make you less hungry it does salad’s not food next time on the podcast salad is not food it’s like it’s like a water it’s like a going to a drinking fountain and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog is a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzado with the hashtag opinioncasserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see you next time let’s go get tacos yeah oh my god [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the 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