ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so i’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast forget the oscars today we’re declaring the oscar meyer winner for best food movie this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole handy zade and today we’re joined by the babish culinary universe’s own andrew ray andrews one part chef one part filmmaker a generous dash of irreverent youtube personality a heaping handful of bourbon enthusiasts a cyclist and karaoke singer to taste and no i didn’t just read that from his twitter bio i did andrew i read that from your twitter bio the show binging with babish recently celebrated its five-year anniversary of exploring the question what does the food from film and television actually taste like this makes him the perfect teammate for today’s topic he’s also my friend and i owe the internet a tattoo of his face somewhere on my body but more on that later andrew welcome thanks so much for having me man and major kudos for being able to do that in one take i i can’t read through a single sentence to save my life uh in one take so really just big big kudos i really appreciate that i found out that i if i lean into the attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and try and just like uh use that as a sort of um superpower that hinders my life in a lot of other ways i can get through a lot of script in one take oh see i’ve been trying to medicate away my problems and you’re not that’s the key you gotta lean into them that’s what the kanye west went yes yeah yeah let them consume you and ultimately drive you under the ground but for now hey let’s record a podcast yeah alrighty we’re getting into real issues let’s talk food and movies let’s do it let’s do it okay so i mean we figured right you’ve made your your entire career on youtube after you know uh bringing the food from movies and tv to life so we were hoping that you would go on record as saying what the greatest food movie of all time is are you willing to do that yes i’m willing to do that and just you know fair warning i and this is not me name-dropping even though it totally is uh but you know i’m a dear john favreau is a dear friend of mine [Music] yeah well i i meant to go in hold on no i met uh i met roy choi once and he gave me a bro hug so that’s something he’s the best i met i got nothing run our test in the bathroom he was pretty good for the lakers and bulls you know i mean uh you know we all have ourselves brown winked at me one time really yeah that’s cool sorry go ahead we all have our biases uh so you know i i but just contractually and personally and spiritually i have to say uh chef um because you know and like i i if i’m actually gonna answer that question i think i have to give the crown a big night ah they all love food uh and not just showing food not just uh you know pornographically uh showing you pretty shots of food they love food as a communal object as a a thing that brings people together as a thing that that that soothes relationships chef and uh big knight in particular are about the um unifying power of food and uh that’s why they’re at the top of my list tampopo is definitely deserves its place on that list i think more because it’s inventive more than anything else um but it’s it’s a it’s a great movie and i do recommend uh giving it a watch when when there aren’t so many interesting documentaries on hbo to watch which is never because they have so many great documentaries there’s so many there’s so many questions but uh no i mean the thing you’re talking about chef uh i worry that we may all have the same answer which might be chef well nicole what’s your name my answer is not chef what is it my answer is the wonderful movie waiting dot dot dot okay i’ve i’ve a different sort of food movie i’ve learned that my food movies are like socio-political economic like food movies like i loved super size me that’s like probably one of my other ones and i also really like the platform i don’t know if you guys have ever heard of the platform but it’s pretty much a like allegory about like trickle-down economics how like these people at the top of the platform have like a huge venetian style feast and then it trickles down 200 levels it’s a really yeah i guess like my food movies are all like weirdly political that’s just because i enjoy it it’s way cooler i think it’s like sorry but like that’s way cool well no no i mean one andrew you’re not nearly as cool as nicole so but no i mean the movies that andrew’s talking about of like chef like showing a ton of reverence for food where like the food is almost the main character in a sense right it’s about all these characters uh you know john favreau his son uh fantastic john leguizamo in there sure um but you know the food is playing such a central role whereas in the movies you’re talking about food is a lens through which to view the world yes which i really love because i mean like like i said i wrote this let’s talk about isis more i wrote this article i mean the reason i got into food writing you know especially i started writing about food is it related to politics and social justice so i wrote a lot about agriculture and stuff like that in public policy um the reason i got into that is because food has always been the most important thing in my life so every single thing i see in the world i kind of see it through the lens of food so like for instance right when the super bowl comes around or the big game comes around every year i don’t know what we can say and everyone eats chicken wings where does the rest of the chicken go you know and then i really start digging into that this is just a curious 14 year old me stuff in his face with chicken wings and i start googling it and then find out that you know all the thighs and legs are shipped to russia and china and then all of the feathers are shipped to malaysia for processing and then a lot of the chicken that we’ve shipped to china and russia actually gets processed and then shipped back to the us so like any single story out there because this is a weird tangent bear with me any story out there becomes a food story to me so things like you know i mean super size me or even like fast food inc i mean there’s so many great food documentaries like that that can teach you so much about the world through the lens of food no i totally agree have you ever heard of a movie called ramen girl have you guys ever heard of a movie called romney i’m not no okay okay hear me out britney murphy she gets left in japan her boyfriend leaves her and then she goes into a ramen shop and it’s raining and she’s sad and then she says oh my god ramen i’m gonna become a ramen chef and then she becomes a ramen chef that’s a good food-centric movie don’t you i like it you know uh uh another a show on netflix that i would highly recommend if you haven’t watched yet is samurai gourmet you ever see that no what’s it about it’s amazing if you’re especially if you’re hungover if you just need something like really easy for your brain there’s no conflict in the show there’s no there’s no rising tensions or or uh uh apex of drama or anything like that in any episode it is a simple well-told little linear story that loves food it’s about an old uh not old but retirement age uh japanese guy in tokyo i think i don’t know where he is but he uh retires and he doesn’t know what to do with his time with his life because he’s worked his entire life and he decides to just channel this samurai that he imagines uh in his mind that just eats and drinks with wild abandon and and uh enjoys food and dining to its fullest and um uh and he goes to some of the best restaurants in his area and this just now this is an extremely pornographic show like the food is up close and gorgeously photographed gorgeous and um it’s just his interior monologue mostly uh as he’s eating and uh that’s it it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s i love that that sounds right up my ass it’s sweet and and it’s it’s just this very very lovable adorable old guy um not again not that old retirement age probably 65 [Music] who is just enjoying the hell out of food like really losing himself to the experience of dining and being fed and to trying people’s craft it’s really lovely uh and and it kind of reminds me of chef show which you know is john favreau’s show which is a very easy thing to watch because there’s no conflict there’s no it’s just a look at food through the lens of different different people in the industry that’s that’s one of the most beautiful things is being able to experience someone else’s unbridled joy of food through a screen and it’s something that like we not to get like into a meta-narrative about food media but so many people who want to be overly analytical about things or act like they are too cool or too good for certain foods to me it like takes away so much from this element of joy which is what made chef so beautiful is that they treat a shot of a grilled cheese the grilled cheese scene in chef to me is one of the most iconic scenes so for anyone who doesn’t know chef is a movie uh i believe written and directed by john fabric correct i written directed and and starred in by john favreau it’s like the sling blade to billy bob thornton’s gotta incorporate sling blades somehow somehow oh we got a sling blade fan here that’s a good food movie huge fan that’s a good yeah you gotta make the french fried potatoes from slingblade the tasty cream i i know that movie well oh that fantastic i really do the best part is the uh the main the lead from tokyo drift is the child yeah i know absolutely and uh what’s his name plays the villain what the hell is his name uh oh yeah i don’t um i’m not gonna reach it uh uh he he’s an incredible country singer that guy he’s so creepy and terrible in that movie he’s like a drunk you know abuser terrible awful person and then he’s like in real life he’s just he’s an amazing country singer with like a huge following it’s incred like what the hell’s his name hang on wait is nicole googling it yeah i can’t yeah thank you okay uh sling blade well some folks call it a kaiser blade okay sleep blade cast okay it looks like dwight yoakam dwight yogurt dwight yoakam is a renowned country singer i can tell that’s incredible i’m so so chef but no we can’t get sidetracked this is my fault so chef written starred in directed by john favreau it is all about a chef who won a ton of awards while he was cooking in miami and then he moves to los angeles to open up a restaurant that he finally gets a ton of investment in and this is from a restaurant owner played by dustin hoffman which i love watching the dynamic between the chef and the restaurant owner and then he learns that he doesn’t want to be boxed in creatively and then he has a huge sort of meltdown he goes off on a food critic and then he launches on a journey of self-discovery where he starts a food truck uh and his son goes along with him as well as his sous chef from his old restaurant and then he starts cooking cuban food he starts making cuban sandwiches in the that mojo de ajo brined pork in the media noches and the fried yucca and then he drives across the country with his son finding himself in his relationship uh with his family along the way as well as you know his purpose and it’s this great you know allegory of how food is something that it shouldn’t be um exalted to to a certain level to the point where it destroys your happiness with it that was like a huge message that i got from it and the cinematography like follows that message so much where so many simple dishes that he cooks are just shot with such like precision and just food pornographic elements i mean that’s spaghetti olio which andrew i think that was i mean that was one of the first like really huge videos on your channel right yeah it was actually one of the first steps to this full stop is the third episode ever um and uh it definitely caught fire later on but another great message in that movie that i personally resonates with me personally is in order to find that that creative fulfillment sometimes you have to burn everything down not literally but figuratively absolutely uh and you need you need to start fresh and really examine where you’re deriving your happiness from and what gets you out of bed in the morning and attack that and sometimes it’s hard and sometimes you you have to you have to grind like my man goes from you know being the head chef at a renowned l.a restaurant to cleaning the gunk out of an ancient food truck that he got for free from robert downey jr and uh uh great role you know that that’s that’s the uh the fire you have to walk through sometimes to find that creative fulfillment as somebody who’s had to do that personally like that that really uh uh resonates with me and it’s not necessarily a lesson for everyone but it’s definitely an important lesson for people who might be so um sort of stuck in their ways that they need a fire under their ass they need a wake-up call yeah so when you when you watch chef did you like see your own journey reflected in that or did you watch chef and then that sort of reified in your mind that this is my ultimate journey and how it’s going to go or had you already burned everything down so to speak no i uh um i at the time when i saw chef i had not burned anything down yet um and uh the the message didn’t really resonate with me till after that’s like the clarity you get from therapy is like you don’t really connect those dots until after you’ve had a mental health expert help you do it um yeah so uh uh you know that that’s that’s that was my journey but um uh carl casper is a is a is a life that i think we can all you know lean especially if you’re creative uh you can glean some information and some inspiration from yeah 100 i think i mean my answer for this officially is chef to meet chef met so so much um however uh for the purpose of this and this is a great segue the the one food movie that really helped me sort of understand my life’s journey um nicole knows what i’m about to say because it’s embarrassing is uh eddie’s million-dollar cook-off starring taylor ball and i believe his name is orlando brown this is a disney movie circa 2004 uh and it is about bobby flay this is like the rise of food network bobby flay had just like stood on the counter at the iron chef japan stadium and been electrocuted i don’t know if anyone knows that story what no no bobby flay was the first american chef to travel to iron chef japan and compete i can’t remember if he can beat against chen moremoto or sakai but anyways uh after he competed one there was like a live wire running through a puddle of water and he stepped in it and bobby flay gets electrocuted but bobby flay finishes the cook and then he like stands up on the counter victoriously which apparently in japanese culinary tradition is incredibly disrespectful it’s kind of disrespectful anywhere you go but i would appreciate that american bravado right that’s like donald or the electrocute let them stand on the table they they they left that’s what i’m saying that’s what i’m saying anyways bobby play is like the starring cameo in this disney movie um but it is about a a kid who is like a baseball phenom and again this is disney channel original like not to theaters straight to the to the channel on basic cable so it is very low production budget but it’s about a baseball phenom in high school who has a ton of pressure from his parents to succeed in sports and of course tons of societal pressure because of his gender and his you know presentation and all that all he wants to do is cook but he has to hide it from his friends and so you all see where this is going embarrassing and so he he joins home eq and you know of course it’s everything is disney fied so all his friends are like oh mac that’s for girls you’re learning to bake cookies that’s for girls and then of course this is like a mixed gender sports team because that’s how it exists in disney movies you know it is very rare in the real world uh and then you know the girl who’s a star pitcher on the team is like girls can do anything a boy can but anyways i’m watching this as a 12 year old who had you know really just started to love to cook but you know i was playing multiple sports at the time and grew up in a household with just you know a single dad and my brother and we’re only internalizing messages we get from the media uh and so watching that was like oh my god i don’t have to choose i’m a large child and i can cook and do sports and love myself uh and yeah then bobby flay says like i’m proud of you to him but i thought he was saying it to me and so uh in my mind i mean do they treat food with any respect in that movie no absolutely not his like dish that he really finds his love for cooking in is just this cartoonish purple sludge uh that he gets in a food fight at school and this purple sludge drips off the ceiling and he tastes it and he’s like my god that’s the best thing i’ve ever had a lot of people have asked me to make that just for the right really oh you gotta make it man if you ever do two episodes we got two episodes we got the sling blade mashed potatoes i mean french fried potatoes and the purple sludge from eddie’s million dollar cup dude next to this collab you and me let’s make that purple sludge honestly i would love to i can make any purple sludge he makes it every morning anyways i actually do my my breakfast every morning it’s a mixture of protein powder greek yogurt and blueberries that i mashed together by hand and it looks like that okay that’s i was about to say that’s literally what i have for breakfast every morning because i’m trying to look more like you he pointed to nicole by the way but i don’t mash it together with my hands like a psycho i use a blender no no that’s the problem man that’s the problem yeah because here’s the thing subcutaneous subcutaneous nutrient absorption it’s bro science go to a bodybuilding.com chat room and you’ll learn so much i already learned so much from bodybuilding.com chat rooms no usually nothing about bodybuilding i’m going there to see like what prescriptions interact and you know what i got the weirdest miscellaneous info there a lot of upsetting political opinions yeah not a great hub for moderation there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality 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watched more than any other food movie especially in the last five years can i guess what it is is it burnt yes a trash person yes it is bradley cooper’s burns uh andrew you’ve seen the movie yeah i’ve seen it and i don’t think that that movie loves food as much no it doesn’t it doesn’t it is uh maybe the worst food movie ever made oh well okay well that explains why you watch it so much what what i i you hate watch it well i don’t like but i don’t know if it’s a i don’t know if it’s exactly a hate watch because okay has anyone seen troll 2 no yes of course of course these things you haven’t seen troll two i have no reason to watch troll one or troll two i don’t i don’t i got oh wait no the top got ones no no that’s troll too that’s uh they’re eating him and then they’re gonna eat with the leprechaun no okay so troll two it’s about goblins they live in the town of nilbog it’s referenced in a tyler the creator music video okay goblin uh but anyways it that is actually a weird allegory for vegetarianism i guess yeah you’re right what did i just step into because the trolls are like uh they’re like oh sorry the goblins are like you humans eating stinking rotten meat flesh and then the goblins turn the humans into plant-based food oh well that’s see that’s uh there’s a positive message to that well now you ruined it for me sorry but now i can’t watch it speaking of sequels of uh campy 80s horror movies that suck have you seen um uh silent night deadly night two no i have not oh just go to youtube and search for garbage day from silent night oh yes yes yes it’s one of my favorite like bad movie moments ever all right so i mean i i’ve watched troll 2 probably five or six times nicole’s watching youtube clips while what i’m doing garbage day watch garbage day it’ll make your day seriously it’s my maybe my favorite movie of all time and this is god damn it it’s the point break remake 2015 point break remake and i’ll tell you why it it is so stimulating to me it it gets my it gives me an emotional reaction at so many term turns because it’s such a bad movie it’s about these like buddhist eco-terror they took the original movie with keanu reeves and patrick swayze and a a great gary busey uh that you know was at least somewhat subdued right it was surfers robbing a bank to fund their surfing and then the remake of it they’re these like buddhist eco-terrorists who are trying to conquer the world’s most extreme sports challenges so they can reach nirvana and it’s it’s utterly insane they crank everything up to 11 but that’s how i feel about the movie burnt where everything is so dramatic at every turn that movie hates food it does and also if you look at the executive producers on that gordon ramsay and mario batali both of whom i believe hate food no way as opposed to someone yeah i mean i had no idea that they were they were the executive like you know consulting producers which is a great you know story if you watch chef you can name we just rattled off the names of about eight dishes that they made i can’t name one thing that bradley cooper cooks and burnt yeah i don’t remember anything yeah no i i remember their uh is there a lobster pasta or something somebody people ask for food from that and i think the only scene that i ever that i really liked was the one where he like blows up on the manager for mistreating somebody but he’s mistreating everybody it doesn’t make any sense yeah it makes no sense yeah down to everything so so bradley cooper uh he plays like the ultimate sort of marco pierre white would be totally that’s what i was gonna say the archetype he’s the one who like raised gordon ramsay and he’s the reason gordon ramsay is the person that he is uh so he plays this like bad boy chef who is going for his third michelin star which is not even how the michelin star system works so they’re all they’re like already proving that they have no idea about the actual food world or they’re not trying to um give their viewers any respect and thinking that they might understand how it works so he’s going for his third michelin star but then he has a huge breakdown because he’s addicted to drugs and he like owes the mafia money and so to punish himself he goes to new orleans to shuck one million oysters that’s his punishment and the opening shot of the movie is him shucking an oyster writing down one million throwing his apron on the ground going i’m out boys and hopping on a freaking motorcycle it is so bad it’s like that is good it’s like the end of dexter in reverse and worse it’s but i mean that to me it’s such a stark contrast between what makes a good food movie a great food movie chef and a absolute terrible food movie and this is reflected in in streams and box office as well uh in a bad movie like burnt where burnt you can’t name a single dish because they never tell you what he’s making what they do is uma thurman plays a food critic and she eats a bite of food and just goes um and that’s the only indication you get that he is a good chef she goes um and then they do b-roll of people eating and they’re going um just softly moaning whale sounds throughout i recently went to danielle and it was just a moan fest [Laughter] you know what we haven’t talked about guys yet the animated classic ratatouille which i just watched maybe like a month ago for the first time and i was so impressed lucky i loved it it was beautiful that is another movie that loves food i mean obviously just because it’s truly love yeah it’s about you know somebody’s willing that somebody is in a rat uh their willingness to overcome any obstacle namely being a rat uh to be a great chef and uh and performs the miracle of seeing a kitchen full of rats cooking and making it not gross somehow like pixar really are miracle workers because they like i know people with like genuine phobias of of of rodents like that and they watched it like oh i wonder what they’re making i wonder if that has like changed the discourse around restaurant cleanliness and now people see rats in the kitchen because if i see a rat in a professional kitchen i’m just going to assume that’s a rat tattooing rat i’d be like no that’s the headshot he just he’s out from washington i saw them watch their little hands no i can differentiate you know pixar animation to a real life rat a house can float away on a balloon oh okay [ __ ] you put enough balloons on a house it can fly boys talk when you’re not around i saw that yeah are you talking about small soldiers what did you think she was referencing she said toys talk when you’re not around that’s a small soldier’s reference that’s toy story never heard of it and the small small soldiers talk when the people are around they’re they talking their faces that’s right that was a big part of the movie was them interacting with the people yeah and then the small soldiers tried to kill anyway i was such a young kid when i saw that and i couldn’t believe how violent it was that remember when he shoots like the corn holders and that dude’s leg and i was like oh no i’m not old enough to be watching this that’s going to get sepsis that’s going to get infected that person’s dead oh no what were you talking about we’re talking about ratatouille but i have another class wait hold on can i talk about red tattooing i’m sure if you want i blew the opportunity because i started talking about small souls yeah you really it’s okay we can backtrack continue uh the the big part of ratatouille that really hit me was uh anton ego the the critic yes who so recently we we did this video on youtube we started doing these new things where we just put the camera on me and they go hey josh talk for about 15 minutes and you start big beefs with gordon ramsay i’ve seen it yeah yeah yeah not only gordon ramsay there’s more yeah exactly um but uh what was i do i was talking about this uh interaction i had with guy fieri when i crashed his child’s birthday party back in the day and um just being very impressed with you know how generous this man was with his time and all that uh and this is coming off of pete wells absolutely eviscerating american kitchen and bar in times square in that thing and i was like you know a food writer i was writing restaurant criticisms i would be unnecessarily cruel i once referred to a restaurant sauce as being like a jamba juice razzmatazz smoothie that had been left in a 7-eleven parking lot for three days which brutal burn got him uh but no i thought that’s like what made you clever was being able to tear something down from your stupid ivory tower while you were making thirty thousand dollars a year working in a gross cubicle that sold 65 expired diet cokes uh in the vending machine that was a fun office to work in uh but anyways uh point is big thing with anton ego when he says you know it is always more beautiful to create than to criticize the job of a critic is to sit there blah blah and in this guy fieri video i just plagiarized anton ego and did not notice it um and then a couple people called me out so good for them but that was a huge takeaway from me for rasatoui that that meant a lot it’s intrinsic it became an intrinsic like model for you internalized it internalized and as for guy fieri i mean like that that takedown was brutal in new york times and my thought there is like find me a good restaurant in times square like this it’s not it’s not like yeah you know what is this garbage he’s putting out in the in the dining mecca that is times square like right next to an olive garden and uh so i got i got no beef with fiery like somebody asked me about him recently when i was doing a live stream for colleges and they were like what’s your opinion on guy fieri expecting me to like tear them apart and like i would never get in the way of that man earning that guy makes money and he’s figured out how to build an empire i’m not gonna get away in the way of him and his bag that sounded wrong no get that sack get in the way of him in a snack so uh but i mean god my big thing with that is i mean i i grew up the fanciest restaurant i’d ever been to until i was like 18 was the olive garden you know and i think that’s the experience for like a deceptive amount of people in america right yeah sure and i mean i grew up in in orange county too which is like you know a somewhat moneyed area but it has so much money that it does like culture in a way and so i just so many like restaurants serve different purposes for different people it’s like a guy fiat restaurant it’s not meant to stand up with danielle with la bernarde with you know restaurants like that it’s meant to serve you know uh ahi tuna tacos and spinach artichoke dip with some jazzed up guy if yeti seasoning yeah for 17 people non-native new yorkers people who aren’t used to exactly people who are visiting and they want something like you know americana like where’s the harm in that i don’t know anyway that’s what i’m saying it’s a it’s a pure value exchange uh and i think it’s great yeah when i was in mexico i got a coupon to go into guy fieri restaurant yeah i unfortunately did not have time to go oh man yo when i was pretty uh inebriated on this carnival cruise uh because they sell the all you can drink tickets on the carnival cruise line okay but it turns out they cap you at 15 drinks and i will say you think you can’t you think you can’t get there in a day or the whole trip in a day in a day when here’s the thing there’s a difference between a long island iced tea that’s one drink and a mike’s hard lemonade at 3.2 percent is still one drink turns out you drink 12 mike’s hard lemonades throughout the day it’s not that hard um but anyways you get the sugar shocks a little bit you get the shakes and the fingertips but they had a guy fatty guy fatty has a restaurant a burger restaurant on every carnival cruise line oh wow and it’s very similar to a normal burger restaurant with guy fieri’s face plastered on it yeah but it was really fine i mean it was you know perfectly okay and acceptable and again the man’s out there making money leaving generational wealth for his family i mean you you were 15 mikes deep so i don’t know how bad could it have possibly been no i guess you’re right what are what are other food what are other food movies i got a good food movie for you guys you ever heard of willy wonka in the chocolate factory oh this is a good horror movie that is a that is a great horror movie that is a great one like the boat scene well the first one i didn’t really care for the johnny depp remake personally so i thought the giant death remake was fine but it it i mean it couldn’t compare to gene wilder but also as far as like a movie that made me see the like wonderment in the magical element of food which is something that we do here at mythical kitchen which is the youtube channel that we run stop by we got new videos but no i mean seeing so many things like the chewing gum that is flavored like an entire meal right so you have the blueberry pie the roast beef and the soup flavored chewing gum seeing that in like a movie now we’re making stuff like that for our jobs totally uh my first my first like food like scene that did that for me was indiana jones and the temple of doom whenever they’re eating like the snake and the and the beetle and the monkey brain i was like holy crap how are they doing this because there’s no way that’s real monkey brain is it real monkeying brain like it was crazy to me so i had that same experience but with indiana jones yeah there’s there’s kind of this element of watching food movies to see the actual food styling like now i watch these and i’m like oh how did in in hook how did they make you know the imaginary pie like i wonder what food dyes what materials they were using yeah like in hannibal yeah yeah every time i watch the show hannibal there’s an amazing blog from the food stylist of hannibal like who actually talks about the breakdown of how they’ve made everything and a lot of it is really rooted in great culinary technique like obviously they have to do a lot of weird stuff to make it work on television they have to paint it with lacquer or whatever but like um you know the the food stylist really cares about food uh on that show so it’s it’s a great reward um i i also do want to touch on big night real quick which is my i think please please please it’s my favorite food movie um mostly for the last scene i’ve either have you guys not seen that one or uh missed that one chief that’s our bad that’s our bad that’s sorry andrew might if i spoil it for you all right well you know these these brothers uh in brooklyn in the 50s i think uh you know just undergo a major blow to their egos and to their uh relationship and to their um to their business and they probably they’re probably gonna go out of business uh because they wanted to host this gigantic feast for louis prima uh who never ended up showing up because they thought they would drum up press for the restaurant they would save it uh but he never shows so they end up just making you know this incredible feast like it’s one of the best food scenes in film history uh for just their dinner guests and it becomes about the connectedness of that meal and and the importance of that meal to its guests one one person ends up sobbing at the end because their mother was such a terrible cook growing up and uh the last scene the very last scene these brothers have gotten into a drunken fist fight and they wake up in the morning hung over one of them’s sleeping in the kitchen and in a one single shot one of them fries up eggs and serves it on a little loaf of bread and they eat together in utter silence and it’s just their little way of just starting to heal the massive wound from the night before is with a little you know very simple just eggs salt on a baguette and that is their like way of just trying to start healing together and that that to me is the most beautiful scene in the movie i just want to talk about that so you should definitely go watch that movie another great hangover movie very low-key that’s that’s so beautiful i mean that that scene with eggs it’s like the cycle continues no matter what happens there is all this food that is always a thing sort of connecting us i mean that’s a huge thing like all of us we’ve we’ve chosen such a bizarre i would be willing to call it a stupid career path in a very beautiful way that we all love very dearly yeah i mean that connects us so much to the movies that we see on screen even if it is a terrible disney movie with a hundred thousand dollar budget made in 2004 you know we’re all seeing something of ourselves saying it means a lot to us reflected on screen and food and i think that’s beautiful when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles all right nicole and andrew we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like cancer rules [Music] yeah andrew said it there he is what what do you say well i’ll say it’s hard for him to join saying the thing yeah yeah yeah yeah you wanna try it again see if we can do it more synced up yeah okay okay okay let’s do it let’s do it let’s do it all right andrew you’re pitching on the first one sorry i’m sorry it’s time for a segment we call opinion why why we’ve done this this is like our 60th episode of something we can’t all right um all right first up we got our dot shionti do you think parmesan cheese belongs on any seafood or fish pasta yes i told andrew we’d get the first crack i’m sorry all right no it’s okay i had to think we had to fill the airwaves somehow um i personally don’t go in for that um seafood with most dairy in fact like cheese in general and seafood not crazy about it like lobster mac and cheese i don’t fully understand i’ll eat it but i don’t really get the appeal of uh but parmesan in particular that’s such a such a harsh cheese for such a gentle gentle thing um sorry i got weird there uh i’m trying to f me up fam i’m trying to think about that parmesan will work really well on well i mean parmesan for me it’s it’s like it’s hardly a cheese yeah parmesan is a seasoning it is no honestly parmesan’s like it’s like miso to me like it’s i agree it’s just salt and umami and like it’s so crystalline and that you’re not getting so much dairy funk like to me especially or something like a pecorino it’s just like acid salt umami yeah i agree that parmesan isn’t as combative of a cheese with seafood yeah for some reason to me it’s it like works yeah but also it’s a very combative cheese hmm because it’s very strong but it’s not all the time it’s kind of like i recently made lobster thermador and that is like lobster and a cream sauce topped with gruyere and yeah i gotta say kind of weird but you know just the answer to most of these questions for me is gonna be live your life oh you know what yeah i mean honestly that’s that’s the key but there are a lot of mexican seafood dishes that use a fair amount of cheese in them and so you’re talking about a fish that works really well with cheese um smoked marlin they so they call it they call it jamon del mar the ham of the sea because they they literally smoke it and cure it like ham uh so it’s kind of the combination of like a very fatty fleshy tuna that has the the texture and flavor of ham and then they do these like you know hard griddled tacos with like a kind of melty white cheese in it so good uh unreal that sounds really good my my my dear friend rick martinez who has a new show coming out on my channel oh exciting cool he’s he’s down in mexico he’s in london uh which is lovely coastal town in mexico and they are huge about smoked tuna there where it’s like smoked to this cherry red consistency and they make i think tacos out of it as well oh that’s awesome no i’m really stoked for that show i’ve i’ve loved rick for for so long and i love seeing you bring other talent into the fold in your channel too that’s super exciting thanks guys that’s the segue for you to plug anything you want by the way uh cookware cookware’s out now buy babish knives fart e man says avocado mango and cucumber with sriracha is the best combination but why andrew why i can’t answer why tell them why they have to tell them why oh uh because um you’re uh i don’t know because you you have damaged taste but i don’t know so okay i’m sorry avocado mango cucumber and yes with sriracha it’s the best combination you know you know what i’m going to try that that doesn’t sound terrible to me it doesn’t sound great by any mean i think the the cucumber is what throws me i think avocado mango i’m like okay we’re we’re in sushi we’re in um uh uh what’s called uh the raw seafood dish um ceviche ceviche territory but uh i don’t know about that cucumber we’ll see you know what this reminds me of this reminds me of like tajin yup like if if this person because you know if if you bought sriracha powder which exists you could just put the sriracha powder on and have the same tahini experience with just more asian flavors andrew you familiar with tahini i can’t say that i am it’s uh honestly yeah we should um so i mean it’s huge in southern california if you go to there are fruit carts everywhere in southern california and uh cucumber is really popular it’ll be like cucumber mango fresh coconut everything and you can get tajin which is like a chili lime salt that you dump on fruit it’s beautiful but i mean this reminds me of chamoy chamoy is another thing that’s like a chili and pickled fruit puree i love this violently red sauce that is delicious on fruit but the thing that bumps in sriracha is the amount of fermented like garlic and sugar totally and so for me the garlic might clash with all this and i think what they’re looking for is just tahini and chamoy on fruit which is already perfect i mean that sounds delicious and if there’s one thing i’ve learned from just the past 10 seconds of this conversation and when we collabed with alvin kylon is that i know so little about the cuisine of southern california maybe because i’ve got to come through but i’ve i heard i learned about like seven new dishes that day and now i’ve just learned about like three more uh you gotta come out man i would love to take you around on my way i don’t like new york it makes me claustrophobic it’s very the tall buildings are very scary i don’t know i’ve never been to new york isn’t that sad come on out i’m in brooklyn it’s shorter out here yay all right where we got uh at a mayberry soup in a bread bowl with the lid on is a sandwich disagree disagree i disagree maybe at best of some sort but like a sandwich can you eat it like a sandwich is there any sandwich whose contents are entirely liquid uh i’ve hold on iv i french dip if this is a can you eat it like a sandwich yes uh i have i have eaten a whole clam chowder bread bowl we did a big like clam chowder bread bowl party at my apartment in college with 10 dudes because this is how we partied this is how we partied and we we made this giant thing a very stodgy clam chowder and we went out drinking and you know someone was working on the soup all day and we put it in bread bowls and i just picked it up and put the lid on and i would take a bite and then go and i’d take a bite and go and so you can’t eat it like a sandwich if this is purely a matter of practicality that’s different sounds like you could eat a coconut that way but you’re not gonna call a coconut sandwich are you true no you’re right i’m just talking about feasibility talk about feasibility uh i will sooner say that a bread bowl with lid on is a coconut than a sandwich i’m willing to write that in the cannon of our show right now okay conron 28 says pineapple and cream cheese sandwiches aren’t as weird as you think oh you don’t know how i think that is weird i don’t like that again i’m i’m not gonna i’m not gonna judge a person for what they decide to put on a sandwich but i’m certainly i’m under no obligation to try it myself hold on hold on hold on you grew up yeah nicole i know what you’re gonna say can i tell you what you’re gonna say are you gonna talk about the cottage cheese and uh the cottage cheese knutson with your little pineapple yes i knew you were gonna bring that up no i didn’t my mom loved it oh i get you and your mom confused all the time you’re so similar you look like your mother you’re so weird you know what you know what i would get down with sooner than that is uh is a marshmallow fluff and pineapple oh i’m down with that too oh that makes a lot more sense than cream cheese or cottage i grew up with a lot of like jam and cream cheese on a bagel that was my like after school snack that my bubby would make me yeah i guess on the frozen sara lee bagel that had been in there for four years you know puts in the toaster oven still icy in the middle um no bring back bring back weird pineapple foods when when uh white people discovered the pineapple in 1954 with the brutal annexation of hawaii that stays in the edit because it’s true uh and then they started just being like how can we ruin this delicious fruit so the original idea before the filleto fish to give catholics a uh you know reason uh to eat at mcdonald’s on a friday was the hula burger which is just a slice of canned pineapple a slice of american cheese in a bun and that was it yeah and so like back in the 50s when people literally didn’t know what to do this exotic fruit there was so much just like horrifying experimentation and i would love to bring that back same with bananas i think we should be wrapping bananas and ham and putting hollandaise on top that sounds horrific oh god we’ve killed it i’ve seen i’ve seen that that’s uh that advertisement too yeah you know something i just made for today’s episode actually was uh tapache which is absolutely interesting gorgeous use of pineapple yeah so tapache is the uh it’s like a fermented uh mexican i don’t know you’d call it i mean it’s almost fermented like a like a beer wine i think technically speaking it’s a wine but uh like it’s pineapple wine it’s barely alcoholic like one to two percent uh but you just basically chop up a whole pineapple skin included uh add water and brown sugar and maybe some you know um clove and star anise and a chili if you want and let it ferment for like two days and you got this like really lovely to drink very lightly carbonated barely alcoholic thing it’s really really refreshing man come come out to la smuggle some homemade tapache on board that aeroplane uh and we’ll we’ll take you all around and find some food to pair that up bring three ounces of topacho with me on the plane and then you can finally drink multiple three out spots yeah tape them to your body put them in the crevices a complicated straw system between each one so it looks like wires yeah yeah that’s a great idea and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich and thank you so much for joining us andrew be sure to be sure to tune in to the ravish deburr and thank you so much for joining us andrew be sure to tune into the babish culinary universe on youtube also i know you released a cookware line recently where can our listeners check that out hell yes brother binging with bavish dot com slash cookware it’s available now that’s binging with babbage.com cookware and that’s uh available no that’s what i yep sorry i do that’s what he just i do too many ad reads on the podcast and that’s how they do it this is literally what he just said and if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you 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clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles of approaching vehicles of approaching vehicles if