ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so i’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast [Music] did you know that australians don’t even eat shrimp on the barbie because they’re actually called prawns cronky i wonder what else we’re gonna learn today this is a hot dog it’s a sandwich curtis i’m sorry for the crocky ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich hey welcome to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich the show where you break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendizada and today we’re joined by chef curtis stone curtis is currently a judge on fox’s new food game show crime scene kitchen premiering well tonight may 26th depending on when you’re listening to this podcast i suppose he’s also an internationally renowned chef tv host entrepreneur new york times best selling author and chef owner of maude and gwen both in los angeles he grew up in australia and discovered a love for cooking while making fudge with his grandmother at a young age they once hosted what i consider personally the greatest cooking show of all time surfing the menu curtis welcome to the pod thanks so much how you guys doing not too bad man i guess surfing the menu uh it came out in 2003 i believe that’s right yeah that to me is such an iconic show nicole have you seen surfing i have not but i would love to hear about it tell me a little bit about it any curtis please tell us i was working in a basement kitchen in london at the time and i was riding my scooter a little moped home and i got a phone call from a producer in australia and i stuffed my phone in my helmet while i was riding in a freezing cold night and i was a little fed up with working in these you know hard-ass restaurants and i got asked whether i’d like to host a tv show where i would cook and surf and uh travel around my native australia and sort of rediscover what australian food was all about and it took me all of two seconds to make my decision um i was like yeah and she said can you surf which i couldn’t really but i was like of course i can all aussies can surf because i really wanted to go back to australia and be paid today and uh and that was the show it was literally me and another guy ben o’donoghue who’s a great mate of mine now and we would travel and surf and cook our way around the country that sounds fabulous i i read a quote it’s funny you mentioned copying to to not really being able to serve because i remember reading a quote from ben o’donoghue who said let me see if i can paraphrase this correctly uh curtis makes me look really bad on land but he makes me look really good in water yeah it’s true it’s true both parts of make ben look really bad on land because he’s hopeless at most other sports apart from surfing which he’s amazing at so um yeah we had a lot of fun that’s awesome man so i mean we we wanted to to bring you on here to like you said you did in surfing the menu sort of rediscovering what australian food is all about uh nicole and i think are super curious about what australian food is all about especially because there’s so many new like australian restaurants opening up in so many los angeles especially and from what i can see um they’re mostly breakfast burritos with kale in them it seems to be the tone esque meals yeah yeah yeah so i mean i have an entire list of aussie food slang but i kind of wanted to go through with you because another thing that happened to me my older brother who i grew up with he is huge into food and wine as well uh he moved down to adelaide for three years and then he came back and he started talking all crazy he started he came back and he was like i went down i got some stubbies from the bottle oh and i was like john that’s not english did you have a stroke in australia i was like no no you got to get some dim sim from the servo and i’m like well i don’t understand you you have to clarify uh so i’m just gonna running through some aussie food slang okay let’s do it what is a singer a sanger is a sandwich is it an r at the end or an a is it singer or singer or is there any difference in australia you know i don’t even think we ever write it down it’s just the spoken word sanga would be my best guess nice okay so our sandwiches like we mentioned you know kind of coffee shop culture seems to be like the big thing that we have seen translated in l.a it’s the same as something you get from a coffee shop and does a coffee shop have a sling term like a coffee-o um well yeah first of all we just give everything a different name i’m not exactly sure where it came from or why it exists but aussies do give everybody a nickname and everything a a sort of an abbreviation or we add an o or an e you know if your name’s john you’re either a johnny or a jono you’d never john you know like that would just be way too formal i’m not sure why it might have something to do with our convict heritage that we like to break the rules and do something slightly different but yeah we do change the words of everything so a cafe is a coffee shop which could even be called a milk bar which is my favorite endearing term and a milk bar was sort of more a corner shop but these days you can go to the milk bar and get a coffee and maybe a sandwich so you know it’s or a sanger or a [ __ ] um you know sample is another shorthand term for a sandwich yes yes one wasn’t enough one singer wasn’t enough you had to switch it up exactly exactly does this mean that we’ll get nicknames at the end of this i’d like that curtis at the end of this you have to give nicole and i a nickname it would beat a lot don’t think about it just marinate on oh no i don’t need to think about it nicole you’re you’re straight away knickers which is sort of a funny endearing term i love that do you have a nickname like to your australian friends well my last name’s stone so my nickname stoney that makes sense you look like a stoney that’s not to pass judgment on your lifestyle choices of course okay okay back to more abbreviations um so there seem to be several forms of pounded out in fried meats that go by many names the first one i’ve heard is schnitty yep so schnitty is short for schnitzel correct where do you eat schnitties and why you can also have a snits is uh is another short term are they different if you order a schnitty and a snitz are they different um no same thing yes same thing okay can you tell me the differences between parmi parmo and parma well they’re all palmer they’re all um they’re all schnitzels but then you put tomato sauce and mozzarella cheese over the top so that’s a palmer um and it’s a staple in the in in the aussie pub okay so a parma apar me and parmo are all smitty’s which are also schnitzes correct in theory i’ve heard i’ve heard legend of ham of i feel like an anthropology professor who can like you know i don’t know was in a coma for 15 years can you explain what is korean pop music i’ve heard legend of ham being added in at least one regional derivation of parmi parmo and parma correct but they’re all got the same name which is the funny part because yes you put you can put ham underneath the tomato sauce and the mozzarella of the schnitzel to create the palmer which i guess is some sort of version of a um you know how you would have eggplant parmesan in america right so we do a chicken parmesan i guess is like what palma’s short for but now that i stop and think about it i think if you wrote chicken parmesan on a menu no one would order it because no one would know what it is because we just call it a parma that’s incredible i mean italian food is is really big in australia right and there’s like a huge wave of italian immigration which i mean from at least what we’ve heard here is why espresso culture cafe culture is really big so is there a lot of italian food that’s sort of you know big history in australia yeah there’s tons you know the italians and the greeks were probably the the two major european countries from western europe at least that sort of migrated to australia probably back in the 40s and 50s and um there’s still it’s funny because i have one of my best mates tommy we grew up together and his parents were from calabria and then when we went back to calabria tommy and i went traveling when we’re 19 years old three year old 20 years old and we went to calabria and it’s funny he was like the calabrians in australia are more italian than the calabrians in calabria because it’s almost like there’s this moment in time that’s frozen right because this italian culture came to australia and then they preserved it in the way that they knew and of course back in italy things continue to evolve and move on but there is a funny part of that first generation immigrant that came to australia that really holds very true to the the original culture that they you know know and love from back in italy and um yeah so so it’s very rich the the italian community in australia and it’s very authentic it does feel um you know having traveled a lot through italy uh it does feel very much like you’re back in italy in some ways that’s interesting because i mean you you almost see that sort of purism in uh you know a lot of italian americans from new york city right especially compared to la because their community has like deep deep roots there correct even though most of them are generally from like sicily right so it’s a very very specific type of italian food culture but you get like a ton of purists even about new york style pizza you know even about red sauce italian do you have that like element of purism in australia because like you said you got that convict culture you want to break the rules but is there a lot of like purism in the food no there really is there’s still a lot of authenticity in the way people prepare stuff and i think similarly to new york a lot of the immigration to australia was from the south you know probably um not not um only from the south but mainly so yeah there’s a lot of that sort of calabrian sicilian that you know traditionally i guess back then some of those poorer neighborhoods were the ones that were like looking for a new start in life and looking to go to somewhere somewhere else and um and that’s sort of um you know and it usually goes that that’s where excuse me to all the people from the north of italy but a lot of people would say the south of italy is really the heart of italian foods you know that sort of it comes with that peasant style kitchen where um you know food sort of develops its deep roots and uh and yeah we certainly have a lot of it back in ours that makes sense [Music] hey uh sorry rent link here uh we just had to interrupt josh and nicole just for a minute because we’re so excited about a new scripted podcast we’re starring in called ron staff my name is hey bronstead ronstadt jon stad i’m the one with the bright blonde hair sticking out in every direction like electrified link weenie oh is that your real hair i walk the dark hear the danger see the damned if i know i call it my cradar my ability to detect and observe all things crazy right cradar so what are you gonna do i became a phone jockey for 9-1-1 but i 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for the life your membership plus ten dollars off your first order that’s butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to claim this deal [Music] how do you feel about spagble because us too love some no nicole always says it you say it with the essen with the essex exit though she watches a lot of british reality tv and i don’t watch a lot of british reality tv i watch snippets of british reality tv there’s a big difference it comes up on my facebook feed and i watch about 13 minutes of it and i go about my day it’s quality television it’s not an indictment yeah but how do you feel about spagbol because i love it just for the name alone look it’s almost our national dish spaghetti bolognese is what you’re referring to and that is probably the most common dish found in australia a bit like in america how you have meatloaf or meatballs as as sort of one of the iconic dishes of america of course you imported it from somewhere and and we certainly imported spagbol from italy and um it’s a meat ragu sauce with spaghetti i mean what’s not to love would you say there’s any like stylistic differences between like as like a bolognese we’d get in america versus like the spag bowl in australia like are they do you put like is there like ham on it do you fry like a disc i’m fascinated because ham is the perfect addition to a chicken parmesan you get the the all the benefits of spag bowl who’s chicken sauce in the in the philippines there’s diced up ham in their version of spanx you got me there you got me there you got me no we have it we we make a pretty in bologna um where it originates from they don’t use tomato in the sauce in fact they use a little milk in the sauce and it’s very rich and very dense in australia they put quite a lot of tomato in it so it’s sort of more of a sicilian or a um uh campagnas kind of a version of that source so um yeah it’s it’s not authentic um in its nature but it’s still really good okay so you you’ve used the term tomato sauce i feel like i have to say tomato sauce because i tomato sauce why do i say tomato tomato sauce in australia does not necessarily refer to strictly a sauce made from tomatoes correct it is more of a ketchup we use yeah that’s right when we ask for ketchup we actually ask for tomato sauce so when you have a sausage roll or a pie which is sort of a part of our national treasure um you would always have tomato sauce with it which is ketchup but then what does pasata mean pasado is a tomato sauce that you actually make from the beginning okay yeah so that’s that’s not sweetened tomato sauce is not the tomato sauce pasadena is the tomato sauce correct yes okay i learned recently on my own travels through tomato sauce purchasing because i saw a jar and i’m like what’s the soda and i’m like oh my god it’s just legit just like tomato sauce before you add all the fun stuff to it i was like whoa what a trip well it’s like a very pure just like crushed tomatoes which which to me i think i think a lot of it’s kind of like how in america we refer to everything every tomato-based sauce that would go on pasta as marinara yeah which marinara totally incorrect right that literally refers to a specific like neapolitan style of cooking like marinara literally meaning like of the sea it was like a fisherman’s wife dish and so like we we do our own crap here that just doesn’t seem you know we’re so used to it we’re so used to having 19 kinds of marinara and then an italian person would go to an american grocery store and be like none of that none of that is marinara when i first came to america i went to an italian joint and i ordered the spaghetti marinara and it came out with tomato sauce on it and i was like no no i ordered the marinara because i was looking for the clams and the squid and all the delicious seafood that is normally in a marinara sauce where i come from and they were like that is a marinara and i’m like okay you know whatever did they run out of seafood it took me quite a while to figure out that um what you were talking about was what we would call a napoli sauce or you know a tomato sauce um yeah so it’s very confusing isn’t it were there any other big big like food culture shocks when you first came to the state so also when was the first time that you came to the states i got here about 15 years ago and um i came well actually i came i came here totally by accident if i’m being gunned on the wrong plane and you know what i i decided to have my 30th birthday in las vegas because i’ve never been here i lived in london half my mates were english half of them were aussies and i figured vegas was in the middle and i could have a big party so we’d sort of arranged it but i hadn’t booked the flights and then someone rang me and asked me to do a show called uh take home chef which i thought was the most ridiculous idea i’d ever heard but i saw an opportunity you know maybe i can get a free flight for my birthday so and you know these tv people they usually file your business class i was like all in and i agreed to come and film this pilot and um that was in los angeles of course and then i just jumped on a little you know flight out of burbank for for 49 bucks to get to vegas for my big bash so i did that i got home and somebody called me and said you’ve you know you’ve got a they’ve picked up this show that you filmed this pilot for which i hadn’t really told many people about because i never thought that it would see the light of day and i was like oh cool that’s fine you know i’ll go and do it because i had you know my whole life was organized in london i had a girlfriend and an apartment and a job and then you know they the person that i was talking to said yeah they’ve picked up 60 episodes and i’m like 60 i can’t do 60 episodes that’ll take a year and they’re like yup but you signed the contract you’ve got to go and do it so i um yeah i uh i had to break the news to my landlord and girlfriend that i was leaving town and i’ve never gone home so you know it sort of happened as a bit of a bit of a shock a good shot wow good surprise what a great origin story i i love that half your your career so far seems to be you kind of wanting to accept a free flight out of a place and then ending up with uh iconic tv shows great mentality to have honestly right that’s the way you do it i’m gonna start doing that just gotta grasp opportunities when you see that all good things in life start at the burbank airport okay i wouldn’t say guys yeti guy fieri has a restaurant there now i’m saying burbank airport is on the come-up it’s on the come-up how was that 30th birthday bash in las vegas because if there’s one thing that i think we both know about australian uh food and drink culture it’s that the drink does play a big role in it it sure does yeah look it was a lot of fun um the bits that i can remember it was uh you know my parents were there so we were well behaved to a certain extent and um you know it’s an interesting i al i still think this you know when people talk to me about america um that haven’t been here i always think it’s quite a strange introduction because people that come to america usually go to new york or los angeles and las vegas and that’s kind of it you know they see a bit of disneyland they they get to a theme park where everyone eats those giant turkey legs so i think everybody leaves america kind of thinking oh my goodness that’s such a strange place because you know you don’t really get a sense of what america is really like until you spend a bit more time here and you get um to really experience all the you know like it’s it’s might sound strange to say but i i think to to really experience america you’ve got to experience a bit of the midwest you’ve got to experience a bit of the south and you’re sure see a big city but you know to really understand the american culture there’s way more to it than disneyland and las vegas that’s for sure thank god of course i mean would you say the same thing about australia like because i mean most people you know we know go to australia you know they’re going to melbourne they’re going to sydney you know uh maybe uh bondi beach seems to be a big you know kind of like their version of venice beach but i mean what would you say about you know where to actually like see the real australia look i think the same sort of thing you should try and get out to a country you know if you want to enjoy your first ever chicken parma you’ve got to go to a country pub and have it and drink a beer with the locals and the outback is an extraordinary part of australia that’s you know really quite untouched still and we have an incredible indigenous population of aboriginal people that just have so much to offer and and you know have sort of shaped what australia is and um you know there’s there’s so much to experience outside of the cities but yeah we’ve got beautiful beaches and you should probably see those too so it’s a big it’s a big country so it’s a hard one to to manage in a week you know you’ve got to break off a bit more time to go there i think so i’m going to take about 15 days off for my honeymoon to go to australia put it in the system i i accept all day off requests i don’t even know man [Laughter] do me do my nickname do my nickname oh i need a bit longer to think about yours is a bit trickier it is i mean joshua just doesn’t see him i like joshua i call you joshua sometimes sherry yeah joshie joshie just sounds diminished sorry you call me joshie occasionally only nicole gets to call me what’s your last name josh sharer it means a sheep farmer in german does it really yeah not sheep farmer i was just the one giving the sheeps the haircut so i was literally like to sheer a sheep a shera just call him sheep we didn’t know in the farms we just cut the hairs of the sheep have you ever have you ever shown a shape no i really want to i would love to do that it’s not icy that’d be a fun like activity yeah that’s when when you and i accept a free plane trip to wellington new zealand or wherever yeah and we get offered 60 episodes to sheer sheep unlike i mean it’ll be it’ll be like an extreme you know uh makeover challenge thing except it’ll only be for sheep and inexplicably it’s hosted by you and i okay great and we can like uh die there for a different color yeah oh my god like make them look like lady gaga i mean curtis you got the hook up at tons of networks i mean we we need a partner to pitch this with and so far you’re you’re the leading man i got you i got you let me let me make some calls i have a question for you why are shoeies why are shoeies something that exists shoeies what’s a shoei you don’t know what a shoe you’ve never done a shoei no this might be a harmful australian stereotype that we have i want you to let you know so i went on a contiki tour maybe when i was like 24 okay okay and i had a bunch of australian people on the trip with me and they looked at me and they said nicole by the end of this trip you’re gonna do a shoei and i said okay i don’t know what that is and because i’m annoying and very curious i wikipedia at it and it’s basically where you pour a beer in a shoe and they make you drink it so this is something that i if you’ve never heard then i don’t know what the people on my contiki tour were saying maybe they were just trolling me they might have been from queensland oh i don’t know queensland is a bit like our florida so you just never know what’s going to happen you know it’s it’s an amazing place but they have some strange traditions up there like drinking their beer out of a shoe yeah okay so i was hazed by people from queensland is what you make i had a good friend from queensland from uh from brisbane and uh this all seems to add up to uh what y’all are talking about okay there seems to be a lot of beer slaying uh and this is something i heard which something that i’m actually fascinated by is beer is more like codified in australia legally based on like how strong it is and what sizes you serve it in does that does that ring a bell does that make any sense it does yeah it’s um well we have quite strict drink driving laws back there in australia you know i think in america you can be .08 and in australia it can be 0.05 which is like one or two drinks so you know if you’re gonna drink a full strength beer um it’s it’s a you know it’s a dangerous game to play if you’re gonna drive your car so they have what we call light beer or now mid-strength beer they have those too and a light beer actually means that it’s much lower octane in terms of you know a normal beer would be point would be 4.6 alcohol and a light beer might be point five percent alcohol so you can wow you can drink half a dozen of those and still drive your car because it’s hardly got an alcoholic effect but here you call a light be it’s the same strength which i learned that lesson the hard way but uh yeah yeah you’re like i’ll have a couple more of those light beers and and before you know it you’re like this doesn’t feel that light to me um because i think the beer here doesn’t really change and it’s it’s alcohol level right uh so there’s the laws are state by state which is absolutely crazy i and i think this is a huge problem i remember taking all these alcohol education classes in in college i went to uh you did a big party school yeah you see santa barbara so many kids died every year this is about to take a weird turn but like no it was a huge party school that was on the beach by a bunch of cliffs and so kids would drink and they would fall off the cliffs into the beach and they would die so we had really strict alcohol education classes but i remember getting a card that said um how many beers you can have before you reach 0.08 and they were like this is when you can still drive go ahead uh is it three well it depends on your on your body composition so i was a 270 pound athlete at the time and they were like yeah you can have eight beers in two hours and still drive a car and i was like no sir i cannot that is bananas that is bananas um why would you tell me that that’s crazy yeah and so light beer is typically about four percent in america however it depends on the state so the breweries have to reformulate their beers so like utah i think they can’t sell anything over like 3.5 percent interesting there’s that whole scene in the movie slc punk where they have to drive across the border to get different so yeah everything’s state by state and it’s like really not codified and our drunk driving laws are so strange and lacks that i think like codifying in australia is super important and like makes so much more sense especially when you get things like four loko oh yeah i don’t want to talk about four local podcasts i have a little decorum don’t talk about food okay okay what what is a slab of beer a slab of beer is a case of beer that has 24 stubbies in it so a stubby is a 12-ounce can a stubby is actually a bottle it’s like oh a shh like a short shorter bottle you know something like a red stripe well a long neck is a 750 milliliter bottle and a stubby is 375 milliliters yeah red red stripes that we would consider that a stubby wait but a long neck is you said it’s it’s twice that size wait so 500 milliliters i’m trying to do the metric conversion 500 don’t ask me anything about it it’s just over a pint it’s about like 17 ounces okay and so then a long neck would be like 20 about 30 almost a liter yeah no i don’t know i don’t know three quarters three quarters of a liter the math the math is hard okay okay um what is a tinny a tinny is a can okay how many milliliters is a tinny 3.75 okay okay okay so it’s a stubby but in a cab correct yeah okay okay what about a is a coldy just a cold beer a coldy is a cold bee yep same as a frothy and what’s a roadie a roadie a roadie is a frothy or a tinny or a stubby that you would take on the road okay is that legal open container nowadays you are not allowed to drink while driving but you used to be able to as a passenger have a have a roadie in the car now i don’t know whether they’ve changed that law or not but when i was a kid you sure were when you were a kid you were just you’re slamming coldies and frothies well no i wasn’t i just remember i remember the the adults in my life leaving a nice cola a nice cola young curtis was having a cola okay we we got some other some other slime together what are bum nuts i have no idea what a bum knife what is a bum knife this seems to be smells like a like a mean thing to call someone what are the ducks nuts if i say the bum nuts or the ducks nuts the ducks what am i saying right i mean if someone says yo that’s the duck’s nuts that means that’s pretty special that’s pretty amazing oh like you are the duck’s nuts yeah yeah from what i’ve read bum nuts apparently allegedly means eggs but that could not be confirmed by many in-person sources and i was trying to figure out the etymology of bum nuts they sound dangerous and where they could come from do people actually eat shrimp on the barbie was my opener correct when i said they were called prawns we call them prawns and we do cook prawns on the barbie um and of course to us a barbie or a barbecue is a grill it’s not actually it’s a hot intense heat that we cook quickly over so you would definitely cook prawns on a barbie um but uh it’s not super common but more and more common yeah we do we cook we cook prawns on the barbie for sure but no one would ever call them a shrimp stupid knickers sorry i don’t know why i said that well i think in america we don’t even know what the term barbecue means why what makes you say that because we don’t because we will we will have a barbecue right hey come over to the barbecue where it could just be grilling up hot dogs on a propane grill well it’s the adjective bar what do you mean it was the adjective your barbecue but what is it but what does it mean like if you have like barbecue sauce grill hot heat but then you go out to eat barbecue if that was cooked on a hot heat really be pissed off no everybody knows when you’re barbecuing at home you know what that means but what if you’re making actual slow low and so barbecue doing that needs my number because i’m going to go there but no everybody knows what that means who invented avocado toast and why was it california well i’m i remember having avocado toast when i was just starting to like drive a car and and go out and visit mates and i’m 44 now and i’m 45. i’m 45 i beg your pardon i just tried to steal a year back i’m 45 and you know when i was 17 or 18 it was it was definitely something it was definitely a thing so i don’t know i can’t say when it started in california i always sort of felt like it probably kicked off first in olds but you know like we can both invent something together that’s okay well you already have fairy toast it’s fairy bread sorry fairy tales that could be something um for the for the current day we could do that why not fairy bread is actually horrible it’s it’s white bread that’s been buttered and then has we call them hundreds and thousands i think you call them johnny’s uh no you’re thinking of jimmy’s jimmy but that’s an east coast thing we just call them sprinkles sprinkles right so it’s got sprinkles and then sandwiched and then you cut it into triangles and we give it to kids i mean it’s child abuse i can’t imagine why that’s ever been a thing i’ve had it before and i didn’t like it either i don’t understand it tastes very plasticine it’s very it’s a very it’s just fake on fake on fake well i grew up spreading like canned frosting on white bread and just eating it for snacks because i was left alone in the home honey one of my one of my wife’s favorites is you know you couldn’t get invited to a barbecue but you could also get invited to a sausage sizzle and a sausage sizzle is hey now okay so you forget about what you’re thinking of this is actually a sausage off the grill on a piece of white bread that’s been buttered and then you put ketchup or tomato sauce um on top and i gotta tell you it’s really good it’s the opposite of fairy bread sounds good that sounds delicious what is what is like the one underrated australian dish that you want to pitch to americans like imagine you are the head of australian travel and tourism which you might be you’re the de facto head of australian travel and tourism as far as i’m concerned what’s the one dish that you’d sell to americans well it’s a meat pie you know we have that as our staple we and in that family is a thing called a sausage roll which is basically ground pork that’s been spiced and seasoned and then you put it in puff pastry roll it and and bake it in the oven and they’re both so good and like that’s our hot dog you know that sausage roll or meat pie i actually just opened a pie shop in um beverly hills while maude was closed a little restaurant over the pandemic and watching people come in and try these pies for the first time and uh and seeing them come back like they’d buy them and take them home they come back in the next day and be like oh my god that you know and it’s like of course we stole that from the british because they’ve been making pies for centuries but we’ve sort of put our own little twist on it and it’s it’s um it really is something to behold it’s delicious man i’ve been seeing those pies pop up on instagram they look fantastic nicole and i actually the whole reason we invited you here is because we we wanted the hook up for some pies because i know i know they’ve been selling out i know the orders are big curtis we need the pie hookup okay you got it anytime you want a pie you just text me and i’ll i’ll have them ready for you this is a legally binding contract maggie we got this recorded it is we’re rolling we’re holding you to that [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundaiusa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles [Music] all right nicole and curtis we’ve heard you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse sign for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] that was what do you mean i’m flat now i’ve had laryngitis for three weeks i wasn’t prepared for american idol okay okay first up we got at rush over me habanero pepper powder in a mimosa makes it a mean mosa and it’s pretty great curtis how you feel about habanero mimosas you know what that sounds kind of i don’t know if the raw habanero powder would be too aggressive but i kind of like the idea of mimosa having a bit of a kick to it i don’t like it sounds sexy yeah i think this is a very sexy cocktail takes a mimosa up another notch and i would love to do this but i don’t want to uh touch my eye oh yeah nicole had an unfortunate incident with habaneros a couple weeks ago yeah i’m okay now look it got under the contact got under the contact but now she’s fine i’d find out yeah yeah i i question the use of because a habanero powder i think a lot of people in cooking they will crap all over garlic powder and say fresh garlic’s always better but it’s like it’s just different right they give you different taste sensations yes uh ditto with like fresh mint versus dried mint they’re wildly wildly different something like dried hop and arrow powder to me takes away a lot of that like fresh beautiful brightness that habaneros have so putting like like steeping orange juice and fresh habanero then hitting that in the mimosa that’s my mean mostly that i want i like it or you could cut the um habanero in half and just rub it around the rim of the glass so you just get that little tingle yeah get the little tingle i mean i like that great name angry moussa this is gonna show up at on gwen’s brunch patio for the next day we want royalties juan dm06 says oreos soaked in black tea tastes amazing well one i’m not sure about that because i don’t like oreos to begin but maybe why is that i don’t know i mean i didn’t grow up with them so the first one i had i was like for real this is the cookie that you say that you like you know like yeah it’s your favorite cookie milk’s favorite cookie but america has lovely cookies they’re not they’re not one of them what is your problem with oreos like specifically like get down to the nitty-gritty i think that there’s too much cocoa powder in them for me they’re too they’re too dark too bitter yeah yeah yeah it’s almost like it goes beyond chocolate you know what i mean right yeah it’s just a coco it’s like a black hole it’s a sub sabley yeah i mean they use like it’s what it’s called black cocoa right that’s stuff we use because we we tried to recreate oreos from scratch and you can’t get there using any normal amount of chocolate or cocoa powder you need the black you need the black cocoa yes yeah yeah it’s like a black hole i love oreos because i grew up eating them those are the things that like if i have a glass of whole milk ice cold whole milk and oreos uh i will keep eating them until the package is gone the way that water fills the shape of its container i drain the shape of oreo containers no matter how many are in there you know what was that cookie for me you ever had the hello panda chocolate filled yes yes that was like my oreo cookie i don’t know why what was it curtis there’s like a big uh uh bicky culture i believe would be the term uh in australia right like what are your favorites well we call cookies bickies or biscuits um and we have a thing called a tim tam yes which is just pulled it up on the google you know the google is pointing you in the right direction because they are delicious and we’ll actually bite the end of the tim tam off both ends and then you’ll drink your tea through it yes i have heard of this josh we’re buying tim tams we have to forget about the shoei do the tim tam t suck oreos i feel like oreos would kill you wait is that a real term the tim tam no no i just made that up it is now that’s good again as the head of australian tourism uh tim tam t suck is now the full australian tourism slogan yeah all right at harry’s underscore jabrini thickening oats with protein powder needs to be a thing huh um okay i’ve i’ve never tried that so i don’t know do you know what i don’t i don’t even know what kind of protein powder like a p p protein powder isn’t it well it depends so i i call this broad meal it’s oatmeal for bros um and i have made a lot of broad meal and cooking with whey protein powder is deceptively difficult because you almost need to temper it like a custard because the protein in whey will actually kind of scramble if you because that’s interesting it’s protein in heat right so it seizes when you’re mixing with other things uh and so i will occasionally put a scoop of protein powder in my coffee in the morning but you have to literally temper the protein powder with cold water before adding your hot coffee and then reheating that back up interesting so similar with broad meal you have to let it come to room temp or else it’ll scramble the proteins but this isn’t like such this isn’t a unique thing i think i’ve seen this like before i knew you like this is a thing that people have done a lot they passed i’m not saying i invented it yeah people like put a scoop of protein powder in their oats a lot it seems like a uniquely american thing is to be obsessed with protein concepts well not surprised but i don’t know okay next up jane abbott 369 says a grilled peanut butter sandwich is much better with tomato soup than grilled cheese huh that’s interesting i mean it sounds horrible but when you stop and think about it peanuts can be used in all sorts of cuisines you know like thai curries have peanuts roasted and crushed over the top of them and you can also put them in a chocolate bar so like peanuts are really quite versatile big fat content and it might be quite delicious with a tomato soup that might make sense it reminds me of the tomato peanut soup that your aunt makes oh the the west african dish mafia yeah this takes me to mafi town yeah there’s there’s one of my favorite dishes in the world uh my aunt how is from senegal and she she makes this uh she we grew up just knowing it as peanut sauce i believe it’s called mafe across a lot of west african countries and it’s a lot of aromatics uh tomato paste typically made with beef onions um all that stuff and then a ton of peanut butter and then their version of like it’s called like maggie sauce which is you know like the kind of browning sauce in there it’s just this savory you know tomato meat peanut butter dish and i mean you’re kind of getting halfway there with this peanut butter sandwich dipped in tomato soup but is grilled cheese and tomato soup a phenomenon in australia is that uniquely american i think that’s uniquely american yeah god bless the campbell’s corporation all right chris nicole 29 here we go love this one microwaving ice cream is necessary to obtain perfect consistency but not so that’s soupy huh um okay yeah look i i would just leave it out of the freezer for a couple of minutes before who has that kind of time crisis who has that kind of time not me not this lady i like to microwave it do you yeah well it does soften it up and it does you know ice cream is very important to get the texture right so freshly churned ice cream is always it’s when it’s at its absolute best you know because yeah but yeah that’s that makes sense i get in fights with my girlfriend this is what i use this podcast for it’s to air out my dirty laundry with my beautiful girlfriend julia who i live with um but she prefers her ice cream super super hard which to me is like it’s flat out wrong that like hurts my like teeth back here but then i put it in the microwave to soften it up and she insists that it doesn’t freeze right when you put it back in which i think is probably true if it melts and then i’m constantly melting and then unmelting and then freezing so what i do is i just give her first go at the pint that’s nice and then let her enjoy for 10 minutes and then i swoop in and i eat her leftovers while it’s soft you are a man that understands coffee that’s called compromise okay well done allison nicole francis says ihop tastes better between the hours of 10 pm and 5 a.m proven fact curtis you a fan of the ihop i can’t say i’ve eaten there and i’m trying to figure out why it tastes better i mean the only logical reason to me is because you’ve drunk too many stubbies and then you go into the ihop at those times and everything tastes better after a couple of drinks too many is a relative term but it’s like it’s like you know how taco bell tastes better like after like midnight yeah well you can’t eat taco bell in the light of day yeah yeah yeah you got to win something why would you it’s like it’s like mcdonald’s you have to have it in the morning you can’t have it in the afternoon why would you do that to yourself you know what i mean i understand there are certain times where you eat things and they taste better the cover of night shields your shame maybe that’s it yeah um i i enjoyed my birthday for four straight years at the ihop um and this is after i’d already gotten into food and i had you know kind of developed some sort of a palette i suppose but what i love about ihop is they provide a very unique mix of foods where you can get jalapeno poppers chicken strips new york cheesecake pancakes uh and a chicken fried steak all with an expired corona light and beer at ihop yeah at the one in santa barbara they did have beer they did have chocolate and i respect that very much well you know guys we i just did this show crime scene kitchen where yolanda and i would eat literally six pieces of cake or six desserts in a row and we would often talk about like is it fair you know whoever comes up first when you’re really hungry and that first bite of cake tastes amazing as opposed to the last bite and i do think you need to have a certain level of professionalism where you’re still you know taking all of those factors out of it so i think it’s got more to do with hunger you know if she’s saying that ihop tastes better in the middle of the night i really do think it’s got more to do with hunger because i would think the opposite were true in terms of well here’s the thing if they’re not busy during those hours maybe the cooks in the back have got just a little bit more time to put their love and attention to detail on every last dollop of whipped cream i disagree with that assertion i think hold on hold on no no you need to go to a high volume ihop because i think the less time you have the faster they’re cooking with intuition right that’s what i want so you think it’s better to cook with intuition than it is to cook with time and attention yeah for short order for slinging eggs and hash oh yeah yeah yeah you gotta be you gotta be going fast i don’t trust i don’t trust low volume restaurants for that reason interesting okay we got the last one josh take it away i love this this is at a lip replace all water with pho broth and life would be at its peak with what fur oh the vietnamese noodle soup can i just tell you a little story there was a there was a um noodle shop in beverly hills and it was called beverly hills 9021 pho i used to live in beverly hills so i know exactly and i used to work in beverly hills then i know exactly what you’re talking about been there many times every time i drive past it i want to walk in and say it’s not pronounced foe it’s pronounced i don’t physically know how to pronounce the restaurant is it 90215. say 90214 yeah i guess you got it anyway um look i agree far is one of my favorite things in the world to eat it’s so delicious and i don’t know if i’d replace water with it because me either you know that’s that’s an extreme um it’s an extreme way to go but it really is delicious i mean i don’t know if i’m gonna replace all water with it but putting a bunch of ice in a big gulp cup with a straw and then putting fall broth in that and just trying it out throughout a day that’s true just trying it out just sip sip on a half gallon of that throughout the day and to me it seems like a good way to start no i would just enjoy it in a nice warm 16 ounce koozie that was called jacuzzi right i think so yeah they’d take a roadie if uh yeah yeah that’s the way to do it also curtis man tell us about crime scene kitchen i meant to bring it up naturally throughout the podcast and i didn’t but i am really excited to see the show because it is i mean honestly it’s a it’s a heck of a concept it’s so much fun and you got a youtuber in it as well right we sure do well yolanda is um she’s so talented and she’s got millions of youtube are they followers friends subscribers i don’t know we call them friends we call them family here that’s right they’re friends and and they’re all of that but she’s incredible she’s an amazing cake decorator but the concept of the show is the um the contestants don’t know what they have to bake right so we have these these bakers and they walk into what we call the crime scene kitchen and they have to try and figure out exactly what happened in there so there’s clues culinary clues that lead them down a path so then they run back to their kitchens they work in teams of two and they all start baking sometimes they all bake the same things sometimes they go off in totally different tangents and then of course we show them what they were supposed to make and there’s jubilation and distress all at the same time and then of course yolanda and i taste everyone’s dessert and tell them what they did right and what they did wrong and uh and somebody goes home each week and then at the end of it all there’s uh there’s a team of victorious bakers that make it make themselves a cool hundred grand dope really fun are you done with casting or can nicole and i throw our hats in there well listen if it goes well tonight there’ll be a season two real soon so uh go ahead and uh and submit we’d love to have you we’re we’re just gonna exploit this relationship because we already got you on the record saying that we’re cast members on season two and you’re at least going to give us a coupon for two free meat pies no no i never i never said they were free yeah what are you talking about see you’re like 30 yourself you can’t do that to a guest you gotta you know ease into it a little bit say thirty percent off i’ll tell you you take me to ihop and get me an oreo soaked in tea and i’ll sold and on that note thank you so much for listening to hot dogs the sandwich and thank you so much curtis for being an amazing guest uh curtis other than other than crime scene kitchen you got anything else going on you want to plug oh god i’ve got a million things going on you know we’re reopening gwen which we’re very excited about and maude’s going to turn back into a restaurant at some point you know once we get back to full occupancy in restaurants so um so that’s keeping me busy but you know it’s uh it’s all fun or all all gravy as we say in australia tying it back into the aussie slayer all right and if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzoda with the hashtag opinioncasserole and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram mythicalkitchen we will all see you next time thanks again curtis hi curtis thanks again thanks for having me guys that was fun [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles tip of approaching vehicles of approaching vehicles if ever