ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so we’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast i believe it was the great philosopher gucci mane who once said if a man does not have the sauce then he’s lost but the same man can be lost in the sauce well today dear listeners we get lost in the sauce hot sauce that is this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh air and i’m your host nicole hindi zada and today nicole we’re discussing the greatest hot sauce of all time oh tapatio wait no you can’t just end the podcast but yeah like locate step two right see you next week everybody hey what a great podcast signing off um yeah i think i think it’s uh there is no such thing as the best hot sauce no there are hot sauces for different uses and they all are beautiful in their own special snowflake way absolutely and i don’t think we can we’re gonna find the answer to that today i think we’re gonna find the answer for you and i and i think that’s really important but i don’t think we’re gonna find the end-all be-all sauce boss number one ever i don’t know that’s possible we know two people who did try and do that nicole yes they are our bosses they’re called roger roger and from uh from roger and lenny i’d watch that come from no so red and like they did the uh hot sauce tournament to try and find the greatest hot sauce yes and they specifically did one on the like mainstream hot sauce right not these new artisanal hot sauces that are all i mean not all fantastic but a lot of them are very delicious but on the mainstream hot sauces and i wanted to kind of go through their rankings how they did in the tournament and sort of give our own professional tape because they’re they’re amateurs right i think we can say that they’re not in the room i actually think they’re kind of experts they’ve been tasting things on the internet for a long time yeah right when they said that i was like if they’re amateurs then no one is professional because this is this is literally bad pro eaters but i think that we have a more tuned trained palette i think we can dissect the cultural implications of their hot sauce choices you know in a way they can’t okay so i think i think we should go through it so ultimately what one was cholula hot sauce and you mentioned tapatio being the greatest tapatio went head-to-head against cholula in the second round and lost and that although i prefer tapatillo if there is one hot sauce to have for the rest of my life between tapatio and cholula i don’t know that i could choose tapia why is it the bitterness because it has a really it has a really strong bitterness that people don’t always recognize it does it it’s got this like dusky chili heat you’re getting more chili flavor in there whereas cholula okay so what i think is really interesting about a lot of these mainstream hot sauces is they’re primarily like you know uh mexican versus american south typically if you think about it right yeah especially with this ranking there’s a few there’s a few randos in there but no i agree so a lot of these are when i say american south typically from louisiana i mean even tabasco is made in louisiana it was named after the mexican state but has absolutely nothing to do with mexico i have a question go ahead was it made on an island yeah what’s it called though i don’t know maybe maybe tabasco the island of tabasco i actually don’t know but i do think i do think the peppers are made on an island yeah avery avery island it is a whole tabasco processing facility yeah really really cool yeah and so we have the american south hot sauces like the cajun style hot sauces that are mainly cayenne pepper vinegar and salt those are the only ingredients in tabasco then you get you know frank’s red hot you got texas pete all these are very very similar and then you have them against the mexican hot sauces which typically are much more chili forward totally yeah but cholula for me it almost walks that line between a tapatio and our frank’s red hot it has that creaminess it has that creamy processed flavor that fresh xanthan gum baby it really does have that like thickened almost like you you put your finger like this is viscous this is creamy it has a very distinct texture it’s a mouthfeel tappa tea is just watery chili goodness yeah yeah which which is what i love before i look tapatio on a breakfast burrito is to me absolutely unrivaled i don’t know what what it is about that but i think the thing that it misses a little bit is that pure formula of the american southern hot sauces that is just like this is salt this is acid this is spice there’s not a ton of character to it but that’s what we’re adding to your dish and that is those are things that i typically want added to all my dishes right yes of course and that’s what i’m doing it for so i think cholula is really interesting in that it walks that line between you got the nice chili flavor and so i think they did maybe get this one right i mean let’s look at the other hot sauces that it beat out frank’s red hot it took on frank’s red hot in the finals yes i like frank’s but i like buffalo franks more than anything else they’re buff for for all the bodybuilding fiends out there we were gonna say that the frank’s buffalo sauce nicole you’re talking about like creaminess in a hot sauce so buffalo sauce is traditionally just butter and hot sauce essentially those are the bones it is um it should be clarified butter so it doesn’t really separate but anyways frank’s red hot buffalo version it’s just chemical thickener plus frank’s red hot but it’s so good cause has zero calories it’s delicious yeah yeah it’s really good it’s fantastic that said of these like louisiana style hot sauces the frank’s red hot um you know the texas pete the crystal crystal got beat out round one king i love crystal hot sauce one of my top fours are any of them actually different blind taste test do you think i’m not about to pull out hot sauces to blind taste yeah warmed in my grundle do you think you can tell the difference maybe i don’t know i don’t think so i don’t think so i think i can maybe get frank’s red hot and i think i could definitely get red rooster was not included i was just about to say where’s red rooster red reminds me of my brother so much she used to literally have a ball of red rooster with every single meal it was crazy red rooster is one of those american hot sauces that has like more chili heat and pulp in flavor too yeah it’s pulp it has like chili pulp in it it’s like you get the orange juice with pulp like red roosters like the louisiana hot sauce with pulp which is kind of why i like it but that said when you when you buy a louisiana style hot sauce just normal table sauce which one are you getting crystal i get crystal too yeah but i kind of think frank’s red hot tastes better i don’t know how to explain it there’s something about frank’s and you know i know the adages put that blank on everything but i don’t want to put it on everything i don’t want my hot sauces to be this thick processed goodness like i like the idea of there being a little bit of separation i like being able to look at the sauce and have a clear distinction between the chili and the vinegar you went a little bit more naturally not that it really matters when in the grand scheme of things my hot sauce preferences but i like the idea of having a sauce that has a little bit less creaminess because if i’m putting typically whenever i’m eating food i’m trying to think about the foods that i eat like if i’m eating a burrito uh a fig newton you’re eating a fig newton right before this i’m hungry i’m not gonna put hot sauce on my fig newton but like coward example like i’m eating a poke bowl okay yeah yeah yeah i’m eating a pokeball everyone put sriracha on it but no if i don’t have sriracha i have to choose between crystal and frank’s i’m probably going to put crystal on it because chances are my pokeball has creamy wasabi on it already so i’m thinking about the creaminess aspect like for you the hot sauce seems to be filling in the gaps that aren’t there in flavor and texture and i mean i don’t know does does watery hot sauce have a texture don’t say yes no we should we talk about this all the time how like an ingredient that people don’t think about is water you add a couple drops of water to a salad sometimes it like opens it up you add some water to say a pasta that has gotten a little bit congealed it like opens everything up getting wet into your food sometimes that’s the goal i like wetting my food with hot sauce i’m not ashamed i think maybe that’s it too i think maybe it breaks up the monotony monotony of like creaminess or breaks up the monotony of like uh soupiness yeah maybe that’s what hot sauce does for me well that’s where you get into stuff like uh sriracha here like sriracha it took out uh texas pete in the first round and then lost to frank’s red hot the thing about sriracha is like it doesn’t one give you that acid but two it doesn’t give you the wet because it’s it’s more of the case yeah it’s basic yeah and sriracha so many people we we will get to this later but we’re doing a hot sauce themed opinion casserole at the end of this but one of the most common ones is people are saying sriracha is so overrated i don’t think it’s overrated have you had sriracha and mac and cheese there’s no better hot sauce for mac and cheese and sriracha none it’s it’s the garden it’s the garlic and the chili and the fermenting in it so good and it’s great but it satisfies such a different world than all these other hot sauces but it’s become one of the ubiquitous like what i call like a table sauce or a utility sauce yeah you put on absolutely everything i can put sriracha on every single cuisine i believe and it’s really delicious yes i don’t know sriracha on mexican food it tastes funny to me i like it it’s the sugar in it it’s the sugar in the sriracha that doesn’t mesh well for me and the fact that i love wet with mexican food i mean think about i for the other day i made some like al pastor tacos at home and i had a really nice salsa on it but all i was craving was that thin watery chili the our bowl yeah salsa from the car from the cart man from the truck and that you know it’s you bite into the fatty meat and then you get this just rush of pure chili heat brightness bitterness you go yeah i know you suck that out and it’s beautiful and that’s why i think tapatio beats out cholula in migrant in my grand uh what is this called a bracket your internal yeah a bracket sports bra yeah they even call the study of this bracketology bracketology bronchitis or something no that’s brachiology okay and i played that in scrabble last night brachio actually no i didn’t but i did julia thought she got me because she she she played hand on uh triple word which is fine you know h is worth four so it gets a lot but then on the other triple we’re going down i hit handmade and just drops like a 60 burger on it i’m trying to say this is very handmaid’s tale of you guys yeah i’m watching a lot of handmade i’ve been playing a lot of scrabble uh life’s really exciting for me right now but anyways cholula winning rhett and link’s hot sauce tournament do you do you take an answer do you think they got anything wrong here um for them no yeah for me yes you think tapatio you think tapatio should claim the rightful spot you think that they should have won the head-to-head match up against toulouse see that’s the thing i don’t know i think tapatio and sriracha should have been head to head um you’re cutting out the entire american delegation yeah i you know american hot sauces have their space and they have their delicious they have their goodness but i think sriracha serves a really really great purpose a grand purpose and tapatio does the same and this was to find the best hot sauce of all time a goat hot sauce i love crystal it’s probably number three in my list but i don’t think it’s the goat i think tapatio’s go and i think scratches go and then 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sometimes it happens i trust rhett and links opinions like what like what does it happen you like valentina i don’t know they’ll be like well i had tabasco on you know a barbecue growing up so tabasco wins the tabasco is a perfectly fine hot sauce uh i don’t know like valentina i feel like got shafted at the last yeah valentina is a great all-purpose mexican-style hot sauce that no one talks about i agree that valentina on mariscos you go to like the the ceviche trucks yeah you get the big bottle of valentina there really good on poyo and carne asada so good but that that brings up the fact that like these hot sauces are all perfect for the things that you put them on right which i think the story of sriracha to me is really really funny because you know we talked about it being an asian hot sauce i mean it was founded by a vietnamese refugee in america in um irwindale irwindale california out in like you know the east valley uh i went there i went to a race track there did you see the facility where yeah i did and also they caused like uh crazy fumes to come out of that and the city like tried to sue them oh my god it’s a whole thing but uh sriracha it’s like you know it’s now traveled its way back to you know uh east and southeast asia yeah but it’s like not necessarily like the island of sriracha and thailand they are known for making hot sauce but it’s not necessarily like the hoifong foods hot sauce which is vietnamese so it’s just like kind of really beautiful you know like american uh immigrant success story um and now it’s just totally ubiquitous and i can’t imagine eating say panda express even without sriracha or i think about the kogi trucks the korean mexican fusion how much sriracha just goes so beautifully on that so there’s like a time and place for all these hot sauces like i said tabasco diners baby ihop you want hot sauce here’s tabasco that’s all we got david puts sriracha on his warmest obviously really yeah no every this this man literally might as well just have a ring that pops out and squirts out sriracha because he’s so obsessed with he eats it with everything kebab heats it with burrito bowls he eats it with cornstarchy heats it with eggs yeah hurricane nicole dean over here well like is there a hot sauce in uh persian food no persians don’t eat anything spicy that’s wild but i mean pepper just pepper just pepper but yeah i mean there’s so much like acid and sourness and bitterness in persian food so it’s like it has that balance to make yeah but like we grown up in l.a it’s like you go to taco truck i love spicy food yeah i want to put that on my grilled meats so i agree with that do you know what my actual favorite hot sauce is i’m going to tell you right now it’s you ever have a pepperoncini yes oh the best hot sauce in the world is when you bite into a pepperoncini and then that liquid spills out and then you just let the liquid fall out of your mouth onto and then it has a liquid inside of it from the pickling and then you flip over the pepperoncini and then you rub it and then the seeds and the water from the pepperoni comes out and then that’s your hot sauce you know in hawaii one of their like biggest hot sauce is basically that they call it chili pepper water oh i’ve heard of it yeah and it’s i mean it’s literally it’s it’s a very very thin it’s just kind of like lightly inflected it’s almost infused with the chilies and it’s basically that you would just be drinking that you’d be so happy and white that’s my favorite hot sauce with the chili peppers from in and out wait those aren’t pepperoncinis those are the little peppers what that no one knows what they’re called what are they called i don’t know but you don’t know what they’re called pepper one pepperoncini in italian literally means crushed red pepper right so you go to italy and you go like hey give me some some pepperoni sorry italian followers it’s crushed red pepper but then like you go to i don’t know like any italian deli and get a sandwich and you get the peppercini and those are those little pickled thin peppers you’re popping sorry i bashed your microphone you ordered papa john’s they give you a single hot pepper and cheese yeah yeah yeah on top of it which that’s a great hot sauce the hot steamed papa john’s pepperoncino oh yeah and you get it all in the pizza uh but no i don’t know what the peppers that in and out are called because they’re smaller and they’re thicker i just like to call it all-purpose pepperoncino mix i feel that all-purpose pepper cheese yeah i think that’s i’m screwed tapatio i am team peppertini water but actually bottled hot sauce i love tapatio and there’s really no what’s your number one this is my love letter to tapatio man this is all this podcast is about i i have my answer and it’s been my answer for a long time and it took me a lot of soul searching to get there is it on this list it is not on this list it’s not on this list what is it arizona gunslinger red jalapeno hot sauce shout out to my college roommate and great friend marcus begley uh for being the one who first introduced me to this he and i we at some point had like 45 different bottles of hot sauce wow in our college apartment if you can imagine the amount of light beer and hot sauce and frozen taquitos in that house the acid reflux was through the roof baby acid reflux higher than the gpa but arizona gunslinger has the perfect combination of like salt acid and spice but not only that the actual chili pulp because it’s thicker like you see the seeds you see the pepper flesh it’s so good in their whole line they have a green one that’s really fantastic they do a chipotle habanero one that’s really good there’s a straight habanero one that i thought i don’t know if you remember like a week and a half ago yeah yeah i was making like a quesadilla for snackies and i thought i was putting the arizona gunslinger jalapeno on there it turns out it was a habanero one and then i had to start eating the ice cream straight out of the pint and then i was yeah i was drooling into the trash can i remember i was literally there yeah i bought all those hot sauces for the office because we know how much we love it it’s great yes but you’re still taking tapatio over arizona gunslinger it’s more readily available and accessible it’s cheaper i think it’s maybe 49 cents at the 99 cent store it’s cheap it’s delicious it serves its purpose i’m a little bit biased because maybe i worked for them for a little bit but like that’s right yeah i worked for tapatio for a little bit but that’s beside the point i just think it’s delicious and it’s good and it serves its purpose well and it makes food yummier how hot should hot sauce be do you think there’s a limit ah not too hot enough to make your tongue tingle a little bit like if you start sweating from eating a hot sauce or if you need like a supplemental like thing to put in your mouth it’s too spicy i don’t know but sometimes i want to ride the lightning i don’t i mean i’m not talking about hot sauces like the bomb you look at the later rounds of hot ones i tried the bomb one time and it was like poison yes really bad it gives your body an immediate reaction where it’s like vacate immediately sing bad i tried it and i literally i i was like running i was like running looking for a banana looking for a piece of bread i was like panicking that was me saying i need to help i need help do you want to know the story the first time i had to bomb i would love to i can’t tell if this actually happened or if it’s a weird transplanted memory but i was like eight years old at my local chinese restaurant called ho toys and i was there and uh it was you know 2.99 for like a ter or yeah they did a teriyaki chicken bowl but it was fried like orange chicken covered in teriyaki sauce yeah it was pretty tasty uh but they would give you the um chili garlic paste which i think is marketed as sambal olek i love but it’s like it may or may not be actual chicken on it the rooster yeah i mean that’s the sriracha bread yeah but anyways they would give me that and i remember asking one day i had just discovered my love for spices little baby boy and i was like do you have anything spicier than this and there was like a teen mopping in the back and he perks up and goes like i got something spice you can try and again i’m like a little child and here is what i imagined was a teen worker uh and then i was just like okay and he comes out with a bottle of da bomb what this dude just had it on him in the i don’t know what his deal was if you remember this if you remember a small baby boy that you served the bomb hot sauce to creating just an absolute insurance nightmare because that stuff can kill you oh my gosh the thing is i and he was like yo just dip a little toothpick in it put the chicken on the toothpick and eat it and i did and i just remember my mouth being on fire but at that point i thought like that made you a man because i was a little eight-year-old boy and i didn’t have a healthy model of masculinity look up to you know what i mean and so i thought that like this is the taste of manhood and so i thought i enjoyed the bomb until i was about 12 years old and then i watched eddie’s million dollar cookoff and reframed the way that i think about gender and food uh and then anyways that’s my ted talk that was really good i’m sorry that that happened to you that sounds really bad no this looks like a great experience it was he he wanted to share his love of spice and there are chili heads out there that like it yeah who oh i don’t know if anyone likes the flavor of the bomb because one of the other opinion casseroles that we got when we put our call out there uh so many people were just like hot sauce for the sake of heat is just sadistic and stupid and da bomb specifically is the worst example of that and i think i agree with that because it is demonic even even some other hot sauces that are incredibly hot like um hot ones the last dab uh it it’s got it i’ve never tried it before it’s like mustard-based it’s just flavorful and delicious it’s too hot to consistently eat on anything uh-huh but i’m wondering like what that line is because i i love the flavor of habanero yeah there’s a ton of habanero hot sauces out there that i love and i would have them closer to my favorites if i could eat more of them like el yukateco red i i could eat l you could taco red easily i but like i i can’t dump it as much as i dump gunslinger you know what i mean that takes off the table because i want to dump on every bite but ellie you could take a red there’s another one you want to get that one clean what yeah i want to take a dump on every bite meg you get that clean i want to take a dump one more time one more time yeah i want to dump on a spicy dump on every bite thank you i really wanted you to get that clean and clear you ever have melinda’s xxx extra hot it’s not a pornography themed hot sauce no but i had melinda’s ghost pepper wing sauce yeah the guys tried on the show it’s so good it’s so good melinda’s does an incredible job oh my god it was so good but it was so spicy i had to eat a piece of wonder bread after my meal it was really good though but there are a couple trusted hot sauce brands out there we talked about this like new wave of small batch artisanal hot sauces out there uh and there are there are a lot of duds you know that they’re taking their lot of duds it’s just they’re using buzzwords like like i don’t know like uh blood orange and uh chiltepin pepper like you don’t need to put those things in there like i don’t need all that stuff just give me some good stuff to put on my burgers that said what um the brand mexico lindo mexico lindo sausage well they have the salsa negra they have like the salsa habanero we have the salsa [ __ ] they have the salsa chiltepin as well and chili chiltepin is like one of the most delicious chilies out there it’s like a fruity or arbol oh it’s so good i’m talking about those weird hipster brands that have like a weird like uh an anthropomorphic snake on it yeah they all have a weird little mascot i don’t really care about that just give me i i don’t need those buzzwords i don’t need any passion fruit in there unless it’s really sometimes no sometimes there’s we found something we did a whole fruit based hot sauce uh bracket and there were some really good ones there were some amazing there were some real duds there was some oh my god i was just like how why why does this exist why has this been produced but uh strawberries fat cat strawberry serrano hot sauce one was it my favorite it was not my favorite what was your favorite out of the uh my favorite i really liked dirty dicks dirty dicks is my favorite i really liked it i put that in a braise the other day wow i was making like braised short ribs and i wanted that like sweet heat and i dropped some of the dirty dicks tropical twist hot sauce in there really good but my favorite out of all of these when i tried it was the hippie dippy green hot sauce by angry goat pepper company i also stole the leftover bottle of that and i’ve been using it at home as well my top two from this list that the guys tried the tabasco raspberry chipotle tasted like uh literally tasted like steve’s like a syrup like syrup uh and then some of those like the angry goat pepperco the purple hippo was just like way too spicy right anyone any anything that puts a super hot in there is typically too spicy however burns and mccoy with the trinidad scorpion disgusting yeah i did not know how spicy that was and i just dipped a frying it and ate it and within my body the way that if you drink a lot of cheap vodka in college and had bad experiences your body smells cheap vodka now and will have an immediate gag i have that with super hot peppers so anything past a habanero like i taste carolina reaper and my body knows and it sends off an alarm bell and i gag which is wild um the human body the human body is such a beautiful wonder that said uh this angry goat pepperco the hippie dippy green sauce it’s a freaking kiwi based hot sauce so gorgeous it’s good but it’s like it’s it’s it’s a gimmick right well if you saw that you would say that’s a gimmick this is someone that’s the gimmick i think well you taste we tasted that it tastes good as hell yeah i guess i guess i gotta just get over my like uh what is it called harbingers harbinger it’s like a mental block like i just have to get over that mental block like maybe if there’s a cute little like uh if there’s a cute little puppy with his tongue wagging out with x’s on his eyes like mr pickles maybe it’s a good hot sauce maybe i just gotta tell myself that have you ever been to the hot sauce store in the grove no oh my god there’s a hut oh my god do you find have you found any great hot sauce i got david’s uh i actually got david’s valentine’s day present i got him three hot sauces one of them was bad babe one of them was ass blaster and i think the other one was uh see those are the ones that i have a mental block about the ones that at reference the booty hole ever i don’t need any of my food to reference the booty hole like i don’t want to walk into i don’t know a nice like salad chain and they’re like this is a booty blaster 3000 salad it’s got some nice toasted pepitas and romaine lettuce like i don’t want any food to reference the boob you’ve never done a colon cleanse no i i eat a lot of prunes i eat a lot of prunes you’re just out of control so so there’s a lot of people talking about sriracha being overrated don’t talk about my colon i’m moving on from that everyone’s trying to find the quote-unquote next sriracha which like you can talk about how problematic it is that we’re trying to find any ingredient from another part of the world and say it’s the next whatever ingredient from another part of the world however however yes there’s another sauce well it’s not a sauce which we’ll get into paste gochujang oh i love kochi jung i love kojichang too is koching a hot sauce no no it’s a paste i mean it’s a it’s a paste made from fermented uh soybean glutinous glutinous rice actually is what gives it the texture yeah but i think it’s really funny when people like try and pit sriracha which is i mean essentially an american-made hot sauce meant to be a condiment that’s in the style of southeast asian hot sauces versus gochujang which is like an ingredient you know that’s meant to be used when you cut it with vinegar and i believe a little bit of sugar it turns into cho gochujang which is uh typically eaten with um korean sushi huey bap kimbap uh no hue i don’t know who is it’s like korean raw fish it’s like typically served it’s this like thinned out vinegar version of gochujang oh yum it’s absolutely delicious um but i think it’s weird when people are taking just like straight gochujang paste and like spreading it on stuff this is like even mixing with mayonnaise it is not good koji jung and mayonnaise is a bad combination it’s okay i think you need to have at least uh 80 percent mayonnaise to 20 goat chicken yeah that makes sense but i think a lot of the world they they don’t use harissa harissa is another example of this right it’s not a hot sauce no it’s not it’s not a hot sauce you could make a harissa hot sauce you can you can make a gochujang hot sauce but i think a lot of people are just like reaching at any uh what is perceived from an american lens as foreign spicy thing and being like this is the next sriracha someone like tweeted at me saying haris is the next sriracha i’m like haris have been around for thousands of years man i don’t need to be the next sriracha yeah i think starch is going to last forever like uh stonehenge sriracha is the stonehenge of hot sauces but what other hot sauces from like around the world different cultures are things that you really enjoy that’s a great question i can’t really think about that off the top of my head unfortunately what about you i mean think about like the indian indonesian sambals what is it um sambal oh my god no there’s this uh it’s a sambal terrassi sambal terrazzi it is a fermented shrimp paste sambal uh and it is absolutely dang but again it’s not really i mean it’s not like a hot sauce as we think about it it’s you know a paste that you you add to things and a condiment um i think that is absolutely fantastic um love me just some good old-fashioned thai sweet chili sauce yeah actually i’m not the biggest fan of that it’s not the bottled stuff but if you if you get the stuff that’s like made fresh with a lot of that toasted fried chili that’s ground in there and then you put that on the um the the fried chicken okay that’s an absolutely fantastic combination but like the world of hot sauce is so vast and why are there all the peruvian peppers oh my gosh yeah mario love ya mario there’s actually this one restaurant that’s in uh the south bay it’s called de sol and i don’t know exactly what kind of cuisine it is i think it might be it might be dominican food i think it might be cuban food they have this amazing hot sauce that’s like very watery and it’s very orange and it has pure seeds of i don’t know what kind of chili on there but every time i go to the south bay i put i go to that restaurant is not brazilian it’s not this is not brazilian it’s not brazilian but it’s this beautiful bright orange like separated hot sauce every single table you have to shake the bottle if you if you are from san francisco and you know what i’m talking about you let me know please i say south bay that’s down yeah it’s down north bay up north up south sorry guys i meant to say north bay san francisco i’m not very good at uh things right now but that’s the best hot sauce i mean any caribbean scotch bonnet based hot sauce yeah on for i mean scotch bonnet a lot of people think it’s the same as the habanero it’s a slightly different lineage from it um you know what i really like calypso sauce calypso yes mateux calypso i love coloring that’s my new answer screw it honestly no but i mean we use hot sauces for different things like arizona gunslinger is a pure red chili flavor it tastes like red in the same way that jolly rancher red tastes like red this tastes like chili red but matuks tastes like yellow it tastes like sauce it’s this beautiful bright caribbean hot sauce it’s so good chock full of scotch bonnets absolutely delicious shout out to datil peppers out there too from st petersburg florida shout out to the fatali pepper shout out to the ricotta pepper of peru god i need some hot sauce right now [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large 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heat for the sake of heat is missing the point of hot sauce if you’re trying to prove how high of a spice you can stand rather than enjoying slash enhancing a dish then just eat the sauce don’t waste the food i maybe i don’t know i have i have mixed feelings about this i’m sorry i have mixed feelings about this um i think the pain of the hot sauce can actually change your experience with the food and everything else you’re enjoying and i’m mostly talking about when i’m not sober uh-huh okay that one of my favorite things to do is uh to be you know a little bit tipsy responsibly responsibly and then i go to um what is god what is that korean dive bar that i love oh i know what’s called i don’t know but i know yeah yeah the one with the with the with the concrete everywhere yeah it’s like all wood all concrete everywhere go to the korean dive bar dancing saw and they have something called fire chicken and you eat it and your mouth is burning for the next several several hours my favorite thing to do is eat that fire chicken and i’m a little tipsy i’m drinking beer the beer’s cooling it down it makes the beer taste different and i’m just sweating into a bowl of soup and it’s that extreme spice that makes the soup and the beer taste different and better and to me that is an experience that i absolutely love you get this topokey in there so i have a little bit of a different scenario so i remember very spicy foods that i eat like i have a very distinct memory like one time i went and got hot wings after disneyland with my sister and her best friend and her best friend’s sister and i just remember very vividly then the the ling the the sentence my pores are opening from spiciness and like it’s those little things that like those are the memories you associate with doing something really dramatic like eating a very spicy hot sauce like whenever i took like like i took my best friend to jitlada and she’s like not the most adventurous eater i took it there and i got some of the spicy things on the menu and both of our noses were watering and we’re like oh this is horrible i can’t believe we’re doing this but it’s a memory so i think it’s adventurous i think it’s being able to be adventurous without skydiving in a weird way it’s it’s fun no i agree you get a physical adrenaline rush for the peppers but i also see the point of like railing against the machismo aspect of it where it’s like oh you can’t handle spice you know uh and like dogging on people for that which is really stupid but that said sometimes it’s fun to ride the lightning man sometimes it is every now and then i understand it but also i’m a girl with gi issues so i can’t have fun like that anymore i also found and found myself once taking a group of eight people to love to eat thai oh yum you know i’ve never been there we we gotta go honestly please take me some of the best nights all southern thai and you know very very spicy um but i didn’t think it was anything people couldn’t handle five out of the eight people straight up took one bite of the crab curry the phuket style crab curry and said i can’t physically take another bite and so like then i was looking at the procession of dishes that were to come and i was like oh that’s spicy that papaya salad that’s real spicy oh no uh and so it was just like me and two other people being like oh i’m sorry stuffing our faces with jade noodles and it was fantastic all right sam shone at nifin says i genuinely i genuinely do not care what brand hot sauce a diner has in a bottle tapatio tabasco cholula red hot as long as it has some oomph to my hash browns i am happy okay i love this the pure hot sauce neutralist there’s some out there and i i don’t necessarily disagree with it would you if you’re at a diner and you just want to put some because even when i’m at a diner i mix the hot sauce with ketchup oh okay so i especially don’t really care what brand they have no all well i don’t really care either i just kind of regardless of a restaurant i go to i always say do you have hot sauce yeah then they say we have this this this and this and i say bring them all yeah that’s when they’re like we don’t have coke we only like i don’t care i need the fizzy brown chemical liquid in my mouth i just i need i need the spice to add them to my hashbrowns and i really respect and appreciate this i mean i don’t need a lot of diners i’m not gonna lie i don’t i don’t actually either i’m not a diner person but never it’s like it’s like a twice a year thing for me yeah whenever i go out to eat chances are that they will have two bottled hot sauces and two homemade hot sauces you know what i mean where restaurants i kind of know what you mean though i eat mostly mexican and thai food so again like like uh there’s there’s either like a little cart not a car but it’s a little pulley thing you know what i mean the round thing that’s like a i don’t know i don’t know what it’s called uh so there’s typically hot sauces there but sometimes they have some in the back and you have to ask them and then they bring out some hot sauces that they make themselves which i really really enjoy and then they have some bottled stuff too that i’m down to try too love that love the hot sauce neutralist all right this is really interesting we got at mpbx3003 acid and heat should be separate functions like spicing and salting sorry tony sees that’s really interesting and then they said they can’t really vibe with vinegar forward hot sauces for that reason because they either want pure pepper or acid it doesn’t need to be mixed together interesting see because whenever i associate hot sauce with being spicy first and vinegary i have the opposite where i’m mostly adding hot sauce i mean i always want my food to be spicy but i’m mostly adding hot sauce for the acid and the vinegar really yeah which is why a lot of oil sauce i don’t care what it’s called i care what it does to me i care how it makes me feel on the inside and that’s why i generally don’t vibe super like i love laughing ma the the chili crisps but to me it it misses like the acid that i want if that’s traditionally what i want in a dish yeah but whenever i’m having lago and mas it’s typically on top of something that has that acid already or a food that doesn’t like my uh putting on my i have a very strong sense memory of going to mian mian are my favorite uh noodles in um it’s what is it not judging me on i don’t know but it’s uh the the spicy sichuan noodles uh and just loading the lav grandma on top of that yeah and just slurping it and there’s so much just like fat and spice and a little bit of acid in that broth and then just that like dusky chilly nuttiness coming through on that loud ground maw just sets it off and it’s absolutely beautiful but that said typically i’m there for the acid sometimes i dip my bread and like that’s good as hell it’s really good but yeah i in some places do um i’m thinking about you go to filipino spot in silver lake uh manchester united manchester i think it’s open anymore actually oh man r.i.p ma’am sir um but i mean they have just you know seasoned coconut vinegar that you can add to your food oh yum and that’s really fantastic and and so i get the separate acid and spice thing and i think it’s something we should explore more yeah but you ever go to thai food places and they have like a big jar full of vinegar and chili peppers yeah yeah yeah that’s that’s pretty much it yeah good i like that i like it i’m like a big fan but i was just like normalizing adding crushed dried chilies to the table like at thai restaurants yeah that’s good that’s good i’m down okay at a underscore jj says every single meal you should consume throughout the day should have hot sauce spice sometimes i don’t add hot sauce but i’ll grill a serrano or habanero on the side with a meal you know again as a woman with gi i don’t have the ability to live like that sometimes i need to eat some plain stuff also i don’t know about you josh but my palette gets blown out sometimes because i’ve been doing so much fun stuff i’m doing so many fun things i just need some clean normal food that doesn’t have any spice to it something that my palate can enjoy and then i can eat spicy stuff later i put hot sauce on almost everything i eat though but sometimes like maybe in the morning and maybe at the night time but like i need at least one meal that’s like a buffer that happens to me like once a month i know what you mean your palate gets blown out we’re eating we have a i mean we want a fridge full of like 50 hot sauces we’re eating so much good stuff all the time generally very rich very acidic very spicy the other day i was just craving a nice piece of fish with like a very dill heavy uh warm potato salad and i made that and i was like why is this the thing i’m craving just like plain fish in like a mustardy you know a daily herbaceous potato salad but it was and it like reset my palette and i was like all right cool let’s get a giant like birya burrito after that but i get that i get that like uh not every single meal should have spice that said for me in practice it’s like 96 yeah i do add a lot of hot sauces to my foods but my tummy gets mad at me afterwards you should be the next one my tummy is like coated with just an epoxy you should read the next one because that basically touches on what i just said all right we got a friend of the show shout out to the vulgar chef kyle marcou if it’s good going in it’s gonna be better coming out i hate you talk about ass blaster three thousand i hate you i love you but sometimes i hate okay well no let’s let’s be serious nicole we’re amateur scientists here um this is this is a reality that you have to face and there was only one time where it really affected my day-to-day life uh that was after i had a johnny ray zone from howl and ray’s original helen recipe oh my gosh and it turns out he’s using pure capsaicin extract at the time he no longer does that but this is why he was testing it and decided to use me as a lab rat and that combined with all the oil create a sort of you know fiery oil slick situation you ever watch a drag racing car take off you ever watch a drag racing car take off and like the tire tracks actually have flames on them because of the friction and the residue that was what it was like for me the next day and i physically could not sit down at work i was i was doing my i was an assistant editor for a publication and i was just standing desk all day oh my gosh wild that sounds disgusting so yeah in short yeah kyle you’re right horrible all right atomic underscore steel says just because i can’t eat anything spicier than frank’s red hot does not mean i’m a little baby or evolutionary weak i don’t care what my roommate says you need to get out of that house baby i don’t care what your roommate says either they’re mean that is that is toxic and you know what you are no less of a person because of your hot sauce tolerance you are accepted you are loved don’t worry about it just get out of the house because i don’t want your roommate to talk to you like that that said like also you know step up your game maybe do a little training i’m just saying i’m just saying if you’re physically incapable of doing something don’t force yourself to do it life is so beautiful there’s so many experiences you can have having hot sauce is not one of them if anything you’re evolutionarily smarter because capsaicin is literally a plant’s defense mechanism to be like don’t eat this i’ma poison you and make you hurt and then through some weird reverse evolutionary evolutionary trick we like derived pleasure from that pain and we’re like peppers we’re gonna eat you uh and just scar our mouths and our buttocks weirdos all right we got at maddie j at cbus punk hottest take is using a hot sauce with high sugar content like sriracha to slather meats for searing and roasting due to the caramelization that occurs with the sugars creates a wonderful sweet with a hint of spice flavor profile highly recommend yeah bro yeah yeah for sure i love to glaze my bacon with sriracha and brown sugar it’s killer the way that gochujang glazes meets uh is absolutely unrivaled and that’s because of the sugar and also the glutinous rice creating that texture like just a straight gochujang or do you thin it out with water i typically add i i’ll make like a braise or something and then i’ll make sure there’s like a little bit of sugar in that braise and then i’ll add that to the pot and let that reduce and as it reduces i’ll add the gochujang in it to get it to the point where it like completely becomes a dry glaze on that and do that to like short ribs uh you know any sort of pork absolutely delicious or i’ll just i mean i use it in a lot of marinades like the other day i just took chicken breasts just kind of using whatever i had in my kitchen sliced it really thin added like ginger onion garlic gochujang little soy a little bit of vinegar a little bit of honey seared that off super hot and it was just oh the glaze yeah i totally agree with this this is an amazing opinion way to go okay taco bell understore killer says tabasco is really good if you want a vinegary hot sauce people act like it’s some garbage but it’s damn barely fermented hot sauce if you told someone how it’s made but not the name they would think it’s some some gourmet product that’s a good treat yeah okay squirrel squirrel the moldy jam restaurant squirrel okay they’re really good they’re foundational restaurant of la whatever but i was at squirrel the other day and it was like do you want to add lacto fermented hot sauce for one dollar and it was a thimble a thimble of lacto-fermented we are scientists we lacto ferment our hot sauce and let our jam grow mold uh but no lacto fermented one that’s anything is fermented pickles the pickles at mcdonald’s are lacto fermented for kind out loud uh and so yeah so is sriracha so is tabasco and i agree with this tabasco has a very unique flavor profile yeah that is good on certain things i get it it’s an old school it was your dad’s hot sauce someone wants to listen to your dad’s records or eat your dad’s hot sauce but put some damn respect on the lacto fermented tabasco name god dang it amen preach brothers all right at sid o’fray eating hot and spicy food isn’t a personality and spice doesn’t need to let me hit it spice doesn’t need to be why am i so bad at doing the clapping thing i don’t know spice doesn’t even light man i don’t know white boy eating hot spicy food is not a personality and spice doesn’t need to be in every single dish there we go you’re welcome uh well if eating hot and spicy food isn’t a personality then honey ain’t got no personality i’m just a blank slave yep uh no i agree with this but you know it’s like a shared bond that people can have yeah i think people that enjoy spicy food together uh grow closer i think so you know it’s yeah like you said it’s kind of a bit of a risk-taking behavior and i’m justifying that because i embody all the things wrong with hot sauce culture you can extrapolate on that later all right but keep going with this now we’ll talk about that later at mustache underscore kits as valentina slept on the black bottle extra spice is a game changer i agree valentina’s left on literally said that like five minutes ago yeah what is this black bottle valentina black bottle oh just extra hot extra hot valentina is it good it’s good yes i mean like valentina tons of acid tons of chili flavor i think it it is lacking a little bit in heat sometimes if you want a little bit extra still tons of flavor in the black bottle extra hot it’s it’s really good valencia if you’ve never had valentina um it’s just good stuff yeah try it out it’s got more acid than tappatis more acidic than tapatio but similar dusky chili heat which is really interesting we got we got at ashland spove fast food restaurants have the best hot sauce in del scorcho from taco or del scorcher from del taco sorry is god tier del scorcho is under season what a take but i think hot fast food hot sauces deserve recognition okay what’s your favorite taco bell fire sauce taco bell fire sauce it’s it’s got because you’re never gonna get like a good artisanal hot sauce that’s shelf stable in the package yeah no one’s expecting that no sorry it’s gotta be syrupy it’s gotta be you know a little bit processed and to me taco bell fire sauce walks that line of being like salty enough acidic enough it’s got the sugar to make it shelf stable and enough actual chili puree in there del scorcho to me it’s it’s under seasoned it’s it’s still good it’s a good hot sauce it’s better than like a jack-in-the-box taco sauce love that stuff oh my god i could just serve the packet uh gustavo ariano writes a lot about the idea of taco sauce and when like fast food restaurants started making it in like you know the early like 60s and 70s and how it’s something that like you know does not it doesn’t exist in any culinary candidate it’s a pure innovation of the fast food industry yeah yeah that they were like we’re going to take the sweetness of ketchup and then a little bit of spice from salsa and then just put that in a little pouch have you ever had the halal guys hot sauce yes killer what is that it’s i don’t know it’s spicy as heck it’s really too spicy for me it is you get i mean but it’s great because you get that with the creamy uh what is i believe watered-down mayonnaise and sour cream with a little bit of allspice in it maybe i think delicious like you take a needle and you put the needle in the hot sauce packet and then you look in you’re done for the day god it’s good though oh killer oh my god uh you know who loves logan mod john cena loves lagrange i know you don’t trevor talk about that all the time and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the 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