ramble hey before we get into today’s episode we want to tell you about good mythical evening for one night only we are bringing you good mythical evening streaming exclusively on moment house get your ticket for our most indecent sloshy and random show that takes our classic good mythical morning favorites and torches the rule book the show is live september 1st to jump start the labor day weekend tickets are on sale right now at goodmythicalevening.com [Music] what possesses a man who famously eats food on the internet to be a picky eater today we find out because this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh air and i’m your host nicole hendizada and today we’re honored to be joined by someone with great taste and distaste former sushi doubter and the prince of peculiar preferences mr link neal link welcome to the show did you just call me a sushi dadder i was like what oh sushi doubter is sushi doubter even like the proper thing to say because are you still a sushi just like sushi anti sushilist uh no i’m not are you a democratic sushi list no i’m not i’m i’m i’m very picky when it comes to sushi but i’m not opposed to it as like as an entire category of food do you do you go out to sushi and like enjoy it with people have you found things that you christy loves it uh lily really likes it lincoln loves sushi so every week he’s asking for it to like be ordered or we i mean usually to order it nowadays which to me makes it like not as good if you’re getting the raw stuff yeah i feel like yeah i’m pretty ants i take out sushi despite that being like eighty percent of my diet draw quarantine i eat a lot of sushi too so i feel you sushi is a growth area for me i am open to input you’re very brave thank you oh for speaking your truth there’s more where that came from wait what’s your move as a picky eater because i’ve gone out to sushi with picky eater friends and there are different categories of picky sushi eaters i’m curious what your order is like what are you eating um i don’t like soy paper i mean no soy paper is the only thing i do like i don’t like the that what’s the scary black paper nori nori is a scary black paper i like it stinks well it smells like seaweed you know and so i’ve gotten to where i ca i once i pinpointed that that was the first thing that i was smelling when i was trying to eat sushi once once i discovered there was soy paper then i was like okay i want i want to be a part of my family into the future that’s great i don’t want sushi to be the reason that i get kicked out that’d be hilarious if you were just like you know i don’t intend on staying a part of my family and this was the podcast that you chose i’m glad that you’re committed so um i was like i’ll try something with some soy paper i like crab i like avocado wonderful i like rice and then what’s um spicy tuna i’ve gotten to a point where i can eat that and not hate it i can almost like it i can incorporate it into the the role that is genuinely big because that’s very very big i’ve been out to sushi with the piggy eaters and there’s you know the type like you which which is there’s no good or bad type eating it’s a series of preferences that is neither moral nor immoral but the fact that you like want to be a part of people because i know people that just do the chicken teriyaki and gyoza yeah you know but then they’re kind of like separate from your group and you’re like oh do you want to try this they’re like no no no but i’m like yo but i want one of your dumplings and i’m trying to trade you know and i mean so much of so much of this conversation came to light as we started eating more food on the show and then we started people wanted to start talking to us about the food we ate on the show and i think that’s when we started i i don’t know that i consider myself a picky eater until the show but then it turns out rhett had considered me a picky eater for years before the show and that he was he’s the type that would get frustrated when i wouldn’t share in an ex a food experience with him or i wouldn’t like something he liked because he likes to like something in your face like i love this don’t you yeah he likes bonding it’s like bonding yeah yeah and i get that it’s the same feeling of showing somebody a youtube video uh and thinking that they’ll love it and then they don’t and you’re like what do you mean it’s a 12 year old dutch kid dancing to hard style because those are the the videos you’ve heard oh the beatboxing videos to me it’s a perfect example it’s something that’s kind of vulnerable it’s like this is something that i love and i want you to love it too and when you don’t share in that then you feel like you lost part of a bond and beatboxing is awesome it is thank you but the floppy totally uncooked thing of fish that’s just like over the top of a sushi roll or just sitting on its own like sashimi you know you just it’s just that’s i mean that’s wild that’s extreme for someone who didn’t eat a burrito until they were in college that is fair and i’m fascinated by the fact that you didn’t know you were a picky eater until the show so like growing up were you just not faced with any of these foods and it was after that yeah like i said i mean in college it was like let’s go to this burrito place and then it was like well you know i i i guess at that point i was kind of aware that if i say i’ve never eaten one of these that’s probably gonna be weird yeah it is what you’re saying yeah and i didn’t you know and i didn’t understand that like i could specify what was going to be in it so once i could pick what was in the burrito i liked it this is getting now this is getting into some amateur psychological territory it was that feeling of control yeah nicole nicole wanted to be a therapist before she wanted to do this i also wanted to be a perfumer and a perfumer uh but this is we gotta find the smelliest person in the office and invite them on and then you can talk to perfume but no you’re talking about like the sense of control because you also might be a super taster we did that on gmm uh i didn’t pass that test right i don’t think and then science mike did a thing where he was trying to give me like give it back to me and say you know what maybe you are a super taster that was a video he made but um so i don’t know if i’m a super taster i know that i have control issues so of maybe it’s related but i just i feel like it’s two things for me like i grew up in an environment where i wasn’t presented with a lot of options you know my my mom cooked like five different dishes on a rotation and it was stuff that i liked and that she liked can you like name the five the five differences like do you remember them it was in the book of mythicality and i i didn’t reread my own book uh country style steak then there was like fried chicken tenders wait is it country style steak is that like a fried steak like a chicken fried steak or a cupcake it is but it’s not um it’s a it’s a darker gravy like a really dark brown gravy and not it’s not like a bunch of breading and then a white gravy port over top of it gotcha okay but it is a cube steak yes with dark brown gravy on it i grew up eating that that same thing except we called it swiss steak okay swiss that’s exotic i think that’s probably where it goes we shed anything that could have been exotic it’s like we’re in the country i like this style this is my style yeah yeah so this would work for that but it’s not a country fried steak it’s a country style steak is what we call it i guess it’s with steak um and then we she would make mashed potatoes and the only green thing that i really liked as a kid were the like little garden piece and i would mix all that together i mean i wasn’t i wasn’t so particular i’m not i’m not one that’s like oh i gotta have everything separated and i’m i’m not i like things mixed together and i like a little chaos if i like everything that’s involved in the chaos if you know the chaos if you’re familiar with the chaos yeah yeah yeah uh so i would mix all that together and eat it and i mean again it was every week there was a chicken like a stuffed chicken thing that involved stove top stuffing and cheese on top of a chicken breast wait the stove top stuffing was on top of the chicken breast yeah nice it was great sounds good uh if she did it right if she didn’t do it right i just you know would you tell her she wouldn’t do it right i don’t like that are you that level of control as like a kid like a burgeoning point needed it was a little burnt i wouldn’t need it and then it sounds like you were a picky eater though like like i know you said you didn’t have your like picky eating self-awareness until until i was not presented with options that i that i recall being really picky about like if i would go to i mean i remember going to rhett’s house as a kid and they were drinking milk with their dinner and that was weird but i don’t remember i don’t remember an anxiety of what did it what are they gonna serve to eat i just you know i didn’t think anything of it i would just eat what i liked and i didn’t eat the part i didn’t like and nobody made a big deal about it that’s good so i feel bad now i feel like guilt and shame for like because link’s just a man who’s out there eating what he enjoys yeah you know and we’re out here trying to psychoanalyze it i’m not cycling i just want to know what’s up man no i do too because i mean to me it’s it’s a bit of a curiosity because i can’t empathize with picky eaters i can like certainly empathize with people who seek out experiences they enjoy and don’t with the experiences they don’t enjoy uh i’m somebody who i can’t stand going on roller coasters and i would try it all the time to appease friends who are like josh oh my god it’s so fun you gotta ride the one that goes 900 miles an hour and shoots you up 300 feet into the air and i do it and i just feel sick and i get shaky for the rest of the day really and then i had this conversation with julia recently where we were like now that we’re old enough to be past peer pressure we never have to go on a roller coaster again and that rules like that’s exciting for me that i don’t have to do this thing that i don’t want to do because we there are things that we don’t like there’s things we do like yeah prep it’s just preferences i’m a preferential eater yeah i think is really what i’m trying to invent my new label as that’s smart yeah i’m not picky is a negative connotation but i’m i’m good at picking because of preference i’m a preferential eater i prefer to eat things that i prefer yeah you’re just you’re just getting out of the way a man who knows what he wants is what you’re trying to tell the people [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles i just want to know why do you hate tomatoes so much yeah that’s that’s something that everyone why what about tomatoes makes you uncomfortable because i hate sun-dried tomatoes more than anything else in the world i’m not a picky eater i like those really i hate them because they taste like shoe leather to me i mean not that i’ve had shoe leather but i imagine the consistency yeah it doesn’t work for me and it’s tough i would probably like shoe leather yeah i mean i like fruit roll-ups and i would take them and i would i would make them more leathery by folding them on themselves so it would be more of a a jerky sensation experience yes tomatoes are it’s like satan’s ovary okay yeah extrapolation go on uh i don’t know it’s isn’t that self-explanatory no have you ever tasted satan’s ovary yeah a little i got a bad taste i go to in and out and i get extra satan’s it just tastes bad is it the taste or the texture of it or i mean all the i mean it is it’s really juicy but like biting into a peach would you say it’s what’s it close to because i love to bite into a peach it’s interesting because like the flesh of a tomato like if you’re similar a quick story i said i can’t empathize with pig eaters but it turns out i can because there there’s this one specific moment from my childhood i was at my aunt’s lake house up in the pyrkh news uh and she was like there’s news in the pier canoes so you gotta say the pyramids um but anyways there was this like ice cream parlor that i really loved because they did the dipped cones but they had a bunch of flavors of the hard shell dip so they like you get like a peanut butter ice cream like dipped in peanut butter flavored magic shell wow what a treat so i was really excited uh but you know my aunt was like you can’t go to this ice cream parlor unless you finish your vegetables the only vegetables on the plate were just like raw sliced tomatoes so i guess she’s up that era where like you go to a diner and you just get a side of sliced raw tomatoes yeah yeah and i never had a plain tomato i i didn’t really like love love them in my you know burgers but i would still eat them but i’d never had one plain it was one of those tomatoes that’s like 80 slimy seed pulp and i took a bite and i i dry heaved because of the texture because that like slimy seedy texture when i was a kid was so foreign to me and it was like the first time i had an oyster which to be fair was like a 48 hour old oyster off and all you can eat sushi bar that my brother gave me that was the first oyster you ever ate a great experience oyster no yeah from an all-you-can-eat sushi bar at the irvine spectrum shout out to the irva and spectrum get all your dockers there they weren’t your uh your oyster experience they rent it my sushi experience was burnt the first time i had it was um with an optometrist named tony who was like i’m taking you to my favorite sushi restaurant i was a grown-ass man i was i was married with at least one child at the time and i had not had sushi and he’s like i’m gonna introduce you to the world of sushi and then he proceeded to like get me to taste eel and the most extreme stuff because he got a kick out of it mm-hmm and he wrote me he ruined you yeah it’s like you got you gotta you gotta have a delicate you you know you gotta lead someone into the world of sushi delicately if they’re if they’re in their mid-twenties and they’ve never if they’ve never experienced optometrists named tony leading a new father into his first sushi experience you have like a fiduciary duty was this in l.a no this is this is back in cary north carolina okay okay are they known for their sushi it’s like i mean they’ve got sushi but no i mean so for a tomato it doesn’t it doesn’t it’s not about how gushy it is okay i’m fine with gushy i think it is just the taste i don’t like the taste of it i think the other component of my pickiness if you want to call it that your preferential challenge i’m a very analytical person like i’m always thinking about optimizing things and so for me you know we’re blessed with having so many different choices with the foods we can eat you know where we can go so many choices well that’s that’s an opportunity for me to find and optimize what works for me so interesting you know so it’s the combination of those two things i wasn’t exposed to a lot as a kid but i also wasn’t i wasn’t traumatized and forced to try things and i so i just didn’t the things that i liked i stuck with and then as i got older and i got i think more analytical i was like i can add things to my life but i need to do it in a way that works for me on your own terms i’m really curious that as someone who is an analytical preferential eater not a picky eater mind you do you look at someone like me who is just purely indiscriminate i eat absolutely everything there’s not a single food that i dislike it and that’s the i used to say raw celery because people would always ask me like is there any food you don’t eat especially after watching food fears and me shoving animal testicles in my gullet uh and i used to say raw celery but i’ve like eaten raw celery since and been like oh wow that’s that’s pretty tasty look at you look at me that’s just kind of huge i’m proud of you it was just a thing i said for years but for me i’m like truly indiscriminate but do you look at someone why are you an indiscriminate eater and i want to know what you are too nicole i think i’m mostly an indiscriminate eater it comes um well i don’t really know i think i’ve always been a person who loves adventure and loves trying new things i’ve always been the person who’s gonna do something no matter what anyone else says so whenever it comes to food i’m always going to even if it means doing things by myself so like if i was going to go to a korean restaurant with my friends and it ended up the plans falling through i would go myself or like if i were to try something on the menu and it was like that doesn’t sound very good i’d be like i’m going to try it anyways so i guess adventurous is the word i would use to describe my eating style yeah i mean i like really relate to that and i just i want to experience everything that the world has to offer like i i see us as being kind of like put here who knows what the meaning of life is however there is so much to experience and explore and i think that is like huge to the human condition might be on the very next plate exactly no honestly and i think food is a great way to empathize with people right to like learn about other cultures uh so for instance like sushi like learning about fish preservation in the edomai period in japan can help you like you know um understand certain things about japanese culture you know uh ditto and also how that influenced other cultures right uh why there’s a big like japanese influence in peru and to me like that’s just food is the lens to which i viewed the world kind of my entire life just because i’ve always loved it so for me like every single thing is about food tangentially one way or another and i want to experience all the world it has to offer but that said i don’t think that really drives the point home for me in several other areas like like ditto for um adrenaline junkies right yeah they want to know those people yeah they want to your way you are in a journalist i love roller coasters i love paragliding i can’t wait to go skydiving oh how interesting i’m all about that lifestyle no i i totally get are you an adrenaline junkie or does that like uh trigger your like you know lack of control um i only i’m an entertainer so i would only do things if it were being done nice content how many likes on this podcast to get you to vlog skydiving um probably nothing on your show how many likes on your tweet that’s linking back to this exact show no but like have you like skydoven no no i mean i think i’m a i guess i’m i’m pretty cautious but i don’t know i just don’t to me it doesn’t relate to that to me it’s just about optimizing my experience yeah so i mean i made a decision to step out of my comfort zone and eat things that scare me um but it really took hold in the context of the show where it was that’s what put me over the edge really i mean with with optometrist tony we were eating friends by the way no oh sorry tony nice oh he’s not listening because we’re not friends i don’t know i would just be friends with someone that was like enjoying you struggle to eat things dude i don’t know what enjoyment is that was too nice that’s not the reason what the hell happened with tony you want to dive into the tony stark oh god oh god i don’t wish i would have brought that up but what was my point uh optimizing your experience no on the on the show i would start you know it was entertaining to to have that visceral reaction to things i didn’t like so i did it not to make myself like it or for the adventure i did it for the entertainment value and then that made it a good experience for me you know i mean i’m not going to eat the world’s hottest pepper or any of the lesser ones i’ve been there done that and moved on good but i’m glad i did it when i did it it’s yeah i mean it was scary and it wasn’t enjoyable but it was worth it but so i use that as a motivation to expand my my palette but i just don’t see any reason why i can’t optimize my experience you know there’s a there’s a list on reddit that i that i did see i’m looking at it right now oh yeah yeah we printed it we printed it out okay do you want to run this one you might want to pick just one letter because i haven’t done a lot of my vocal exercises let me just let me just run through let me do one of each we got arugula blue cheese caviar oh you’re picking you’re picking one from eat yes dirty martinis which is weird cause i love dirty martinis it’s the only way to drink my tea yeah uh eggnog fruit punch ginger hot dogs hold on fruit punch hot dogs with the twisty thing at the top ones that turn at the end also does not prefer thick dogs key lime pie doesn’t love it licorice marshmallow except in a s’more uh nuts in his chocolate stuffs oysters pretzels too bretty rum seaweed nori uh thick burgers or tomatoes we already know see a lot of these are how long is that list it might be 300 things i’m almost done though we got uni and worcestershire sauce oh there’s no z no but yeah it’s just like little debbie zebra cakes or did they put that under l i know there’s the list does grow because i keep saying things that i prefer or that i don’t prefer but it’s not that i won’t eat it or that if it’s if it’s the only thing there yeah it’s like you know nuts in my brownie if i really want a dessert i’ll eat the brownie with nuts but i don’t prefer it it’s not optimized for me interesting so it’s not that i don’t like nuts i don’t like nuts in my brownie it must be interesting though the way that you communicate that especially someone who has established themselves as a picky eater whether whether it was for you know uh let’s say content in the show or it was the thing from your because i know what you mean it becomes like all of these are true i’m not lying about anything in this list but i didn’t mean to imply a lot of these are just you know they’re optimizations yeah but yeah i can i can i have notes on why things i just analyzed things to a depth of what really works for me yeah yeah you know it seems like as an indiscriminate eater or an adventurous eater i mean correct me if i’m wrong but you’re not always saying you love everything equally no it’s honestly and i think occasionally my happiness is taken away from how indiscriminate of an eater i’m not even an indiscriminate either because what i will do if i go to a restaurant and i know i like something not even that if i know i love a dish there but i haven’t had another dish i will always choose the dish that i haven’t had i’m in the same way i know we’re playing i like that why can’t we optimize our life more i don’t know it’s just i just want to try and chase the high of a new favorite dish maybe because what if it’s the best thing you’ve ever had that’s true but how often is it not not as often then you’re playing the calculus of like how much does the thing i how much pleasure does the thing i know give me versus how much pleasure you know is there in the unknown the potential of pleasure right it’s like it’s the same thing as like a gambler’s you know addiction like i know the odds are stacked against me however i got to put it all on green which i don’t think is a good thing it’s a good strategy or red no green this is actually a gamble the only time i’ve gambled i played blackjack did not know what i was doing i spent i i won a hundred dollars and i immediately put it on black and then i got 200 and i took that to all you can eat sushi in reno nevada baby and had some fantastic reno suits congrats you didn’t have to order anything no commitment there wasn’t but i i i treated my friend who uh who taught me how to put my chips down on the blackjack table i lost seventy dollars the first time i gambled and i’m never gambling again i’m the same way yeah i never ever i don’t like it the anxiety does not that is not a rush for not for me that’s like i’m being tricked by somebody who has the odds in their favor i’ve never once gambled and i’ve i’ve had plenty of opportunities i just nothing about it appeals to me yeah and i’m sure that’s related yeah psychologically so i know that i have these control things but i totally get what you’re saying about i got to order the new thing i’m not going to go to my favorite italian restaurant and just get that chicken marsala every single time i have made decisions to say okay i am going to try new things it is it is fun that surprise that discovery so i’m not like this hard liner like i only i only eat seven things now that’s wonderful so i do try things but then i make note i’m i feel like i’m very in tune with what works or not so i open up i eat burritos and then i discover what exactly i like in my burrito or what i don’t so then i don’t order that next time but i’ll still i’ll still try new stuff so i’m open but i’m still specific this did not go the way that i thought it would hold on sidebar with nicole like earmuffs i thought link was gonna come in here and he was gonna be like i don’t know i’m very picky i don’t like these things yeah i mean i’ve you know heard a bit more of the spiel that i gave by that but i mean i thought we were gonna be like oh my god link open yourself up uh what’s your relationship with your mom and then you’d be like oh my god you’re so right you two are the ones who figured it out i think this guy figured yeah i think my whole like eating habits are going to probably be altered a little bit through this podcast i’m dead like this has actually influenced me to look at my choices in a different way in terms of like you know trust yourself to know that this is the thing that brings you joy and that you want yeah enjoy the things that bring you joy i think that’s what i’m learning but i do think like openness is important you know i do acknowledge that if if you’re so limited in what you’re going to eat that that does impact other people’s experience you know when you’re going out or whatever so i mean i have i do feel that and i and i’ve agreed with that you know what i don’t want to be someone who’s everyone’s got to dance around where we can go and i don’t want i don’t like impacting other people but once i order my dish like there’s i haven’t experienced anyone besides one particularly tall person that i spent a lot of my life with who is the hamburger has the guts to say i am i’m annoyed that you don’t like what i like i respect him for it but you know it’s like most people they’re like hey his plate my plate that’s fine but at least we’re at this restaurant we’re enjoying ourselves and there’s some things that you’ll tr trying and not liking it like is different than refusing to even try it yeah and that’s where i try to draw the line but then i apply that data to my own life you’re just like a super computer you’re like a code breaker from world war two i like to think of myself as uh vision but just in the kitchen talking wrong talking to the wrong people i only know that from david it’s a marvel thing yeah yeah it’s uh paul bettany okay he’s great in wimbledon with the gold on this on his yeah he also played jeffrey chaucer in a knight’s tale oh awesome i know who that is i know that guy okay but like for my part one i mean has to be said that you know a lot of picky eaters they are influenced by anxiety disorder and ocd uh and so that’s why i i try and like never really judge unless yeah i was kind of joking about giving you crap when you sat down yeah but like from a food person’s perspective whether it’s choosing a restaurant or cooking for somebody if somebody tells me like hey these are my food aversions uh or if it’s any sort of dietary choice i love that challenge i remember showing up to a vegan gluten-free super bowl party and everyone was like oh i can’t believe i got him in and i just made these great like uh soyrizo stuffed potato skins with like you know some vegan crema type of thing on it and it was absolutely delicious and i love that and ditto with like you know going out to dinner with a really picky friend who you know can only eat four things and i’m like i know the exact restaurant that serves the best version of one of those four things and so i kind of like you know having that sort of using my skill set to sort of create that empathy and give somebody else a beneficial experience even if i can’t empathize exactly with what they’re going through but you translated it into an adventure for you yeah as a challenge yeah i’m gonna i’m gonna work the challenge of being within the picky eater box yeah exactly so that’s cool that that that you took one on the on the chin and then you found a way to to be engaged yeah versus the person who’s limiting their experience you know you know i don’t wanna i don’t like limiting other people’s experiences yeah i go to eat with a lot of my kosher friends and uh sometimes because i like to eat cheeseburgers and you know whatever so i’ve learned to like whenever i go out to dinner them i always respect their choices as well whenever we’re at the dinner table we never get any sort of meat it’s always like and we love to share as a group of friends so we’re always like sharing dish and stuff so it’s always like fish and like vegetables and stuff like that so i’ve learned to adhere my adventurous eating with certain people in certain groups but for the most part whenever i’m with like my friends or family and stuff i keep it very conservative yeah yeah oh good like a runny egg on a burger i just i just can’t i just i still can’t bring myself to that like i love cheeseburgers so much and there’s this thing that like happened i don’t know who to blame i i actually i i can give you someone to blame please i well it’s the nightlife corporation sbe owner of umami burger i blame umami burger from the runny egg on a birthday because eggs got their costs well like nine cents a piece you add two bucks to your burger you know order at umami that’s a huge margin and they start putting them on because i agree with you i don’t put them on any they’ll put them on any burger that’s the thing that was looking at it yeah oh and i cuz i was about to go after red robin or something but that’s just me being basic but then the basic place is caught on because the margins it’s all about the margins but i i just i mean what would you tell me if if so we’re sitting down you’re excited about a burger maybe you’re excited about the runny egg on the burger well are you first of all would you no i think we both disagree we’re both anti-runny eggs but say we were at father’s office they have blue cheese and arugula on their burger and their baby’s bloody and the burgers bloody and they don’t take substitutions you cannot substitute and we wouldn’t go there i would well if i know i’m going with a preferential eater i would show them the menu be like does this look like a good place to you are you into this or not and if they say yes cool if no then we’ll find another option yeah well i mean how do you feel about restaurants that you know substitutions like that um i think see i’m one of those people that believes that the chef’s intent is the chef’s intent always but and then we live in like a society where we give we have options so i there’s a fine line i don’t know i think sometimes you gotta go the chipotle way where you can do whatever you want then you go down the fine dining room do whatever they say yeah so i think it’s just a matter of preference the nice of the restaurant i yeah i i don’t order something and then change it yeah like i that’s another place again i don’t want to i don’t want to impose on the chef yeah as if i know more than the chef i know i know that i don’t so i’m just gonna order something that everything works for me or maybe i can pick it off afterward yeah there’s a go ahead oh i was gonna say i had a very heartening experience with a friend who they enjoy being adventurous with their food and we’re at a thai restaurant however they have the cilantro aversion which we talked about on a whole thing that i think you can get rid of it with exposure therapy however i will gladly respect it um but they you know said to the server like they asked about food allergies and she was like uh no this is merely a choice uh if cilantro is just like thrown on top of the dish as a garnish if there’s any way we could leave that on the side that’d be fantastic if not totally get it and it was kind of like beautiful little cross-section moment where it’s like empathetic to the waiter to everybody else who was enjoying it because they can all just throw cilantro on but then they got their little thing i think this is great sort of compromise and everyone’s finding harmony where the picky eaters and the indiscriminate eaters can live and unite the air earth and fire tribes amen [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high-quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top-tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental u.s and there’s no antibiotics or added hormones plus it’s packed fresh and shipped frozen for convenience so you can save time on your next grocery store trip go ahead and customize your own box or go with one of theirs either way you get exactly what you want heck yeah you do and if what you want is high quality mean well buddy you’re in the right place with butcher box you get delicious 100 grass-fed beef free-range organic chicken pork raised crate free and wild caught seafood so get summer sizzling started with the special butcher box deal for our listeners free bacon for the life of your membership plus ten dollars off holy smokes sign up today at butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to get one pack of free bacon in every box for the life your membership plus ten dollars off your first order that’s butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to claim this deal [Music] all right nicole and link we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there on the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] beautiful that you are so much nicer than rhett dude rhett said that you guys aren’t singing and i’m like yeah we are uh yeah it’s called music it’s called mumble wrap jingle i have a sound cloud i just i love being here because this is this is a realization of a vision you know a wonderful podcast that i have nothing to do with that is that is happening at mythical it’s like it’s awesome that’s fantastic i mean good morning guys thank you congratulations sorry for making you have something to do with it all of a sudden we just thought you’d want to did you have a good time it’s my pleasure to be here to to uh to bust your assumptions associated with my pickiness you sure did no i’m glad to be here but you know the point i’m making yeah of course i don’t have to be here for this to be a success but we’re glad i like you being here it’s nice it’s honestly nice having a third we we know everything about each other pretty much i don’t know if you noticed but when we were talking it it was like all the same things like i also hate roller coasters i also eat and discriminate i love roller coasters what are you talking about yeah what no what was the other day this segment is not about us thank you so much it’s my fault for making it about you this is why you have to be i actually take a check pennies are like casseroles take it away josh you read the first one at caitlyn agnes says plain salted ripple chips can be dipped in anything literally anything it’s fine it’s good they justified it with too many it’s fine it’s goods i was this was this a problem people are coming at her saying you can’t dip that in that that’s a plague yeah people in caitlyn’s life are coming at her saying you can’t dip that in that where she is saying and i quote it’s fine it’s good what do you think the craziest thing she’s dipping in that caused people to say that plum sauce sounds great it sounds like a delight went to soap what about just soapy bath water also why are they called ripple chips aren’t they called ruffles yeah i don’t know where they’re from and that would influence what they’re dipping them in um i i do agree that you can probably dip chips into more things than you think you could yeah i love dipping chips into weird things yeah what they are but i enjoy it yeah mystery imagine cookie dough like edible cookie dough you put like a salty chip in there honestly sounds better than most cookies no not me what is your favorite chip that though like is someone who has optimized their dietary life where are you going that french onion can that that my father-in-law keeps in his cabinet wait is it the the one that’s in like a plastic tub i mean it is a chip dip it’s specifically to dip chips in mm-hmm but like how does how does this because there’s there’s like the you know the can of ruffles french onion or not the can the jar and then there’s the refrigerated like grocery store brand that looks like a cool-up container yeah there’s also one that has cardboard on the outside unless i’m unless that’s the queso one well there’s the cardboard packet that you mix with the sour cream yourself which is my preference i like that one the lipton i like [Laughter] fair enough fair enough okay claire mq says the only acceptable topping on french toast is ketchup that’s pretty limiting and crazy i like french toast until i realized there were eggs in it i didn’t eat eggs until i was in uh probably high school really what’s your favorite way to eat an egg like my gran the only egg i would eat before then i guess so i’m backtracking is my nanny would make this it should scramble an egg and then like fry it really thin and then i wouldn’t eat the edges where it was like get really crispy and thin but i would eat the middle part if it had enough salt and pepper on it you you like lazy you kept saying that you weren’t a pig i feel like if we just talked to you about any day in your childhood i feel like you would give us like nine different things now that’s different than yeah yeah now okay now i like uh all kinds of exits for the really runny ones that makes sense that makes sense just like uh guy fiatti you know you don’t mess with eggs i don’t know that about it yeah that’s the thing you like won’t eat them on the show even picks them off um the thing with french toast and ketchup is crazy this created a debate between us because i grew up my family oh josh is bringing up the south african french yeah i am nicole uh so in south africa apparently for them uh like eggy bread or they’ll also call it french toast is just eggs and bread that’s been griddled and then they top it with ketchup and so there’s no like cinnamon there’s no sugar so it’s like staying in savory town and then you put the ketchup on it and that’s how i grew up eating it which is really delicious i have a friend from south africa what up grant who said that he went to new york and had french toast and maple syrup on it for the first time and it was like this is disgusting what the hell is going on because he’s used to ketchup so i’m into it uh it’s always butter and maple syrup if i don’t have maple syrup in the house it’s honey yeah that totally makes sense but are you telling me josh that you prefer ketchup on french toast and you don’t you don’t like syrup on it i i do like syrup on french toast if it’s like a dedicated sweet french toast but like i will still make for myself just straight egg wash eggy bread with ketchup salt and pepper on it and i really enjoy it i prefer that to sweet french toast but sometimes i make like a honey ginger syrup for cocktails and i like putting on a sweet french toast yeah aren’t you penicillin penicillin greatest cocktail of all time all right she did ask aren’t you a penis at first speaking of penis at caroline jockman sour cream is actually devil sperm we got satan’s ovaries yes it comes out of the tomato yeah yeah that’s right ovaries do secrete sperm better mickey can we get a fact check maggie’s saying yes that is correct on satan you know that you know how satan’s anatomy works well yeah i mean i just told you i what it’s different yeah no i you know it’s funny the goat tattoo on my back i the original design for it yeah not to make this about my back tattoo but the original design for it i wanted it to be the goat demon baphomet who is famously gender neutral and is often portrayed with naked breasts yes i know that yeah not because i wasn’t embarrassed i just know that i just listened to a lot of weird finnish metal bands and they that’s like the cover the cover art for half their albums yeah about sour cream i decided to like i don’t think i’d think that was funny sorry go ahead and call it do you know that huh and how i’m i have like like a devil with boobies yeah it’s a goat and it has boobies and then in some sort of ritual no no no no no no it was like bam margaret’s band’s logo no pentagram was not no it was an upside down heart don’t get into it whatever cream is good i like sour cream it’s good on stuff enjoy it whatever i dig it me too okay cosmic salmon says tostinos party pizzas are not pizza but what they are is good i think they’re they’re saying totinos yeah totino’s is the most mispronounced brand of all time mm-hmm i agree with this though i mean pizza can be so many things of course it is pizza but if you think of it as something else it will get better and if you like it i think it will get even better yeah i agree it’s a perception issue on that it’s not gonna be the best pizza ever had it’s a tasty wet squishy thing in your mouth very very tasty i really like these actually since i never grew up with them but i eat them now because of where i work um it’s really good still a mama celestia all right at elena bakes my brother dips latkes in barbecue sauce what’s your relationship to latkes uh well remind me what that is potato pancake oh yeah jewish hanukkah i think i like those have you ever again with the ketchup if you’re is that what you just said what different bbq sauce oh kind of the same thing i put mine in ketchup um i could see that working i don’t like it why i don’t like like barbecue sauce is ketchup i know you say that to me all the time and i get that but i don’t know i can’t do it i i don’t even put applesauce i don’t put sour cream i just dip it in ketchup oh funny sometimes mustard sometimes hot sauce i did that when i was a kid because i you know first had latkes but i had eaten mcdonald’s hash browns before that and i was like oh jewish holiday hash browns since i dipped them in ketchup but then now as my like a reclaiming of my judaic roots i dip them in applesauce and nudeson sour cream yeah and i dig that’s that’s you put them both on the same bite oh man big fan oh elena bakes also says honey belongs on grilled cheese i get it caramelized and sweet and delicious oh that sounds good hmm i’ve never done that yeah imagine like a brie a brie with honey and then you put a little bit of like flaky salt and then if you really wanted like like chili flakes on it i’d go straight i’d go mots like it would taste like kanafe yeah like it could like a bootleg canafe grilled cheese there’s this uh where’s kanape from kanawha is from the levant area from the levante i mostly know uh lebanese homies and when i say lebanese homies i mean food beast guys so yeah what up eli um but uh but yeah it’s this dish that is like a shredded kind of phyllo esque dough with a stretchy cheese uh and then ladled in like a sugar syrup and it’s like this stretchy cheese crispy pastry sugary thing it’s delicious i gotta have some of that they make it at trader joe’s a microwavable version have you had it yes and it’s good oh man i gotta get it it’s not the same as like a big beautiful dish made by lebanese grandma but it’s still really delicious and it’s better in when you get it as a sample oh yeah and then you bring it home and you’re like oh what happened yeah but it’s still good that one bite is there’s so many of those that one bite is all i needed foods yeah anything you buy from costco true true i i want we should do one more we should do one more it’s almost it’s almost the witching hour but i’m curious about laying steak on this and this is something we’ve talked about too much at hey it’s joseph zero zero scrambled eggs with sugar sprinkled on top wild right why this is like the eighth time we’ve gotten this opinion from different people too sweetened scrambled eggs i don’t get it i i’m well i’m trying i’m trying to be open so it’s like you got your if you got your pancake with the syrup and then the syrup goes up and then it’s going underneath the yeah getting married let’s go then i’ve got a sweetened but still mapley and you know it was kind of an accident so you don’t have to explain it to anyone when you start liking it yeah i could see then the maple syrup going on the eggs it’s a gateway i mean the riddles the rooty tutti fresh and fruity platters the gateway at ihop because it all bleeds into itself yeah and the mcgriddles just says it is going to be stacked and it’s all going to be there but just like granular sugar going over it well what if the sweat from the eggs melt the sugar does that appeal to you more that’s what i’m about i still don’t think there’s something different about you have that viscosity yeah of the syrup that some makes it work well i can wet i can wet your sugar a little bit why are you trying to make this work i just think this is to me the most bad opinion that i love because i’m a superman so to me this is so polar opposite like if i’m gonna do anything i’m gonna pepper something like experimentally i would be open to that like different peppers you would experiment with different no i’m talking about black pepper oh just pepperoni strawberries is really good black pepper on lots of things oh i see what you’re saying you’re gonna black pepper different things as you’re sort of like canvas to yes that’s that’s the that’s the way that i’ll go with putting stuff on something like a black pepper waffle kind of thing like uh i would i would try that yeah it’s exciting maybe we can set that up like a black pepper strawberry a black strawberry it’s a great combo black pepper white chocolate strawberry waffle mmm that sounds good for you and i like what it looks like too yeah me too like it looks dirty but in a in an intentional way yeah you know like that like salt and pepper hair you know what they’re like yeah i like that you know like you got the nice hair all right on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog it’s a sandwich you’ll hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen it’s a short show we’ve optimized the experience for the listeners we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzade with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and thank you so much to our guests link neil links the listeners where they can find you are you on the social media um theoretically yes yeah yeah at linkedin yeah feel that and the instagram is only a couple years old and then you also have a youtube show called good mythical morning right that’s right yeah yeah yeah big fan feel free to get you know out every day wherever you get your youtube shows and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see you next time thanks link my pleasure [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles live of approaching vehicles of approaching vehicles if