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tenders i will never forget the first time i was actually faced with this practical decision i was at a it was a chinese navajo restaurant chinese navajo restaurant yeah i don’t know exactly that one it was somewhere outside the grand canyon in like one of those little towns on the way um and gosh i wish i could like go back and actually interview them and write some sort of story because it must be a very fascinating tale however i ordered the sweet and sour chicken and they asked me would you like tenders or nuggets oh yeah so what i think what was happening is that they were just taking pre-made chicken nuggets and pre-made tenders and then uh kind of tossing them in sweet and sour sauce with maybe a bell pepper too okay but i never i had never been faced with this decision before in my life from a practical standpoint until then and i will never forget my decision i said tenders and i never looked back because i from this day forward and that day forward have all those chosen tenders and will always choose tenders but i don’t know how resolute i am with that i feel like i am maybe looking to be a chicken nugget convert i love chicken nuggets so much is like my family i love chicken nuggets okay i mean why though can you break down the difference between chicken nuggets and tenders sure definitely it’s probably linked to my childhood good times after dance class my mom would take me to mcdonald’s and i would get a happy meal and add four-piece chicken mcnuggets and you know that sparks joy and uh i don’t know it’s just the texture of it i love the spongy texture it’s like a meatball but breaded and fried well it’s not like a meatball it doesn’t mean it’s pretty clear well a chicken nugget is a meatball it’s for another podcast another time it’s just it’s just flat it’s crispy it’s crunchy and the meat is so soft because it has so many other things other than meat inside of it and sometimes they come in star shape sometimes they come in round shapes and sometimes they come in boot bell ball and bone shapes wait if people don’t know the bell ball and bone thing please explain because i didn’t know this until you told me uh mcdonald’s has four stamps and it is the boot the bell the bone and the ball and those are just the shapes of the chicken nuggets man it’s so funny because looking back you look at a four piece of mcdonald’s nuggets and like none of them are uniquely shaped and like you like you said they they are but they they aren’t almost so you said like junior has the star nuggets yeah you look at that and goes that’s a weird story if you look at mcdonald’s you think like oh these were hand formed you know they’re not yeah but they’re all just like slightly machine you’re like that one a little bit looks like the state of indiana that’s intentional though you know what i mean i know i think that’s like somewhere like they probably hired a psychologist that specializes in like like food nature because you know my friend actually debbie wanted to do that for a second she wanted to work as a psychologist for brands for like fortune 500 companies and be like the psychologist behind it and there’s i’m pretty sure they were like let’s make it look like they’re hand shaped so people think that their handshake not that i don’t know if that’s true or not no but i mean one you should have been a food psychologist that would have been awesome maybe that’s like a second act for you yeah you know even though this is it are you telling me i’m fired no i’m saying like you know when the time comes you know we’ll have an amicable step no uh but i mean there is so much psychology that goes into stuff like that uh and that to me speaks a little bit to why i’ve always chosen tenders over nuggets okay because nuggets are these mass-produced things anytime there’s psychology involved in food yeah it is typically preying on children you know what i mean of course i mean i’ve seen super size me i know that oh yeah yeah that’s a big thing it’s like using uh bright colors to attract kids you think of certain breakfast cereals they do that and so for me i always associated uh nuggets with like child food and ever since i was a kid i wanted to break out of that right i was never the kid that like leaned into kids menu stuff interesting okay so i would see something on the kids menu and be like no i am seven years old i am probably the size of an adult person because i was a large kid i would like the steak or whatever interesting and so for me when i was presented with that faithful choice that one day this navajo chinese restaurant they’re looking back i really wish i would have asked questions but again i was a child and i chose tenders i was making a political choice nicole i guess i was making a political choice saying that i i am of age to enjoy non-processed chicken that is from a whole breast strip that is again tossed in your delicious sugar sauce with maybe a bell pepper but like the thing is like the option of chicken nuggets versus tenders are never on a menu i’ve never seen it on a menu but i mean now fast food restaurants a lot of them are getting into both and okay and so so you’re kind of like a mcdonald’s like sit down casual like when are you ever at a restaurant they’re gonna make would you like chicken like on the menu there’s either chicken tenders or there’s chicken nuggets they would never both on the same menu unless you had a chinese navajo restaurant outside of the grand canyon i guess that is true i always wonder why because there’s such a big lean into nostalgia right sure especially i mean not like fancy fancy restaurants but you know kind of up market restaurants where you know places will charge 15 for a bacon jam grilled cheese whatever yeah type of thing like that a lot of people have gotten into sort of like fancy well-made chicken tenders but not a lot of people are doing nuggets because nugget you can’t mess up a good thing you know like chicken tenders i think you can and you should i mean the burger i mean chicken tenders they’re just it’s just all white meat natural chicken like when i think of chicken tenders on a menu i think of a fast food restaurant trying to you know get the parents to go yeah i think they’re all white meat no additives and then the kids are just like i want the process meat goo give me the nuggets give me the nuggets so i there’s like this weird like again psychology where chicken tenders are more high class chicken nuggets are more low class or for kids but as someone who is a low class individual you’d think that i would be more into nuggets than i currently am not a low class i am a low class what we would call a low value individual not like a ton of like the the food psychologists who target me they would be like well he doesn’t seem to have a lot of self-respect and i feel like he could you know uh probably spend money on anything um so like if we’re really talking about the difference between nuggets and tenders right so chicken tenders literally the term tender comes from the tenderloin which is a small part that is technically part of the chicken breast but it detaches really easily the hanging part yeah it’s like a little hanging vestigial organ there’s a little bit of connective tissue that keeps it to the breast yeah but how many times have you tried to like butterfly a chicken breast say cut it crosswise and then the tenderloin just falls off never falls off what does that mean it falls off for me all the time you’re trying butterfly chicken breast the tenderloin falls off huh i don’t cook much anymore i’ve been butterflied chicken breast in maybe like three years i’m sorry i don’t remember but how many times have you asked for chicken tenders and it’s not chicken tenders it’s just chicken breasts cut up into tender shapes well no that’s that’s a good point uh which is why there’s like a difference between what is it chicken tenders chicken fingers chicken strips i mean there’s there’s not an actual difference chicken strips the noise the sound of chicken strips sounds good chicken strips to me is the most pleasant sounding of them chicken fingers to me is always very strange because i imagine eating a large man’s finger like andre the giant’s finger yeah i think of the chicken growing fingers and i don’t want that in my mind imagine a chicken with human size bombs that’d be weird that’s my sleep paralysis i think raising cane still uses chicken fingers oh as they’re like thing but they use chicken tenderloins i believe which is interesting but the point is a lot of butchers back in the day uh some people only credit the invention of the chicken strip to 1974 which to me seems pretty late like people were obviously cutting up breast strips before that and frying it yeah yeah but that said that is when it was the term exactly at some restaurant in massachusetts um but it didn’t really hit like ubiquity until the 1990s as far as like being on menus and stuff but a lot of the root of it it’s the same as the root of chicken nuggets right here’s a little crappy part of the chicken that is like a little bit inconvenient for butchers and you know we can’t sell to make a ton of money so let’s cut it off season it really heavily deep fry it serve it with ranch dressing and barbecue sauce and then charge a premium for it and that’s the same with nuggets right nuggets are all just the off parts of the chicken yeah there’s probably some beacon there there’s there’s something there’s some there’s some sort of cartilaginous crap in there but i don’t care because i am an environmentalist and i’m eating the parts that no one wants to eat oh now nicole cares about the herbs this is what oh you’re welcome climate change nicole’s eating all the gross chicken parts in her nuggies did you know that uh what’s her name grimes actually said that she’s a vegan other than eating hot dogs or something because of that exact reason that’s uh it’s just false yeah that’s a tough yeah yeah i don’t agree i don’t agree with that statement but like yeah you know like what are you gonna do with all the weird chicken bits i don’t know that grimes and i would get along really well i don’t know i would love to just sit across from her and have once like like i want there to be a situation where we’re across from each other at like a dinner table and there’s like a mediator that says you have to talk about this one subject for the next 40 minutes whatever subject it may be and i really want to do that with her i would love to do like a one-on-one improv show with grimes where the audience yells at suggestions and we just have to go at it you mean whose line is it anyway yeah just just me and grimes on whose line with elon uh moderating making the word brady if you thought that the content we make on mythical kitchen is quote cringe wait until grimes and i host an improv show no but what i’m saying is like both both have the same roots right of trying to use a part of the chicken that was wasted and the thing about that that is most interesting to me is that like you go back to 1962 and it’s something like 83 of all chicken meat in stores was sold as a whole bird oh which is interesting so very interesting and then flash forward to now and that is less than like nine percent yeah people don’t the idea of a whole bird kind of sickens people it does my sister i i met a i met a girl in college who uh we were at the dining hall sometime early in freshman year and they were serving teriyaki taking chick what teriyaki chicken quarters they were serving teriyaki chicken quarters quarters which is a great fail-proof thing for a dining hall to serve right yeah uh and so i went and got him and this girl is sitting next to me i just met her in the dorms and she’s staring down her chicken and she just goes what is this and i was like oh it’s like you know teriyaki chicken quarters that’s you know the leg in the thigh and she goes are these bones stop i swear to god i swear to god i didn’t know these people existed and i was just like yeah that’s you know it’s the whole like leg of chicken and she was like that’s disgusting i was like i don’t know how to tell you that like chicken is an animal that exists and we eat its flesh for sustenance which is controversial to some yeah uh and then she was like well i’ve just never seen chicken that had bones in it and she sort of said that she didn’t know it was related to the animal that’s a lie she’s lying she’s pretending to be dumb i don’t know what to tell you there’s no way benefits nicole who benefits from her pretending i don’t know i don’t know that’s just weird what do you mean like like she never learned that in life i feel like cause i mean i’ve i’ve told this story before plus two is four i thought ground beef grew from the ground until i was like nine years old okay well then nicole we are so disconnected college dorm yeah that’s different but we are this is the point so 1962 89 or whatever or 83 of birds were sold whole in the market okay but now it’s literally less than like nine percent also about half of that bird meat is going to production facilities for processing into things like nuggets or like tyson any tizers you know um adele’s chicken sausage things like that so we’re getting so so far disconnected from the actual animals that we eat and nicole nuggets are the single reason why we are that disconnected ergo chicken tenders they are a whole muscle cut they are good for society they will bring people back to the land and then we can start the agrarian revolution was it agrarian like over-relating to agriculture oh i always wanted to be a part of a hunter-gatherer society and i’ve always said i would think i would really like beast it out because i’m really good at finding little berries i feel like you and i would make a good like gathering team i feel like in one of those societies i would be pressured as like a large uh roughly what is it mesomorphic shaped man yeah that they would pressure me to be like a hunter and i’d be like i’m really more about berry curation you know i’m really more i can create a lovely condiment fine how about this how about you stay and you get the nuts and seeds yeah and i’ll go on bubbles oh my god i’ll like mortar and pestle those nuts and seeds and like a beautiful piece like a wild huckleberry i’ll just drag it over yak cause here’s i think the thing about hunting if it was about strength again i have no no actual experience i’ve never hunted yeah right i don’t think it’d be about strength right if it was like josh goa put this buffalo in a headlock it’s about stealth yeah and it’s about patience yes i have none of that i have more than you but i still don’t have a lot we would be terrible at hunting large games yeah if it was a game of strength where it’s like josh hit this buffalo with the tree you know i’d be like i got it i don’t want to hit a buffalo with a tree to be clear it’s just in in this fictional hunter gatherers okay back to nuggets though i think nuggets are easier to eat than tenders because sometimes you get that little connective tissue thing and that kills you oh that kills you horrible eating experience that is also i would say that more nuggets taste better than more tenders correct i have had in helen rosner’s uh seminal essay for guernica magazine in 2015 on chicken tenders wernicke magazine art piece yeah it’s a picasso um i think it’s like a kind of like artsy lit magazine interesting okay i know she publishes great our uh just essay there’s ode to chicken tenders um and uh she she used this phrase it was like the faux elegance of panko and i agree no the disappointing faux elegance of panko and i agree with that anytime i get to say like a panko crusted chicken tender i’m a little bit disappointed anytime i get a wet battered chicken tender i’m a little disappointed any time i get a chicken tender that was not properly brined and soaked in salt okay i’m pretty disappointed i’ve been burnt by more chicken tenders than i have chicken nuggets because most chicken nuggets it’s codified right it’s just blended with a bunch of salt and spices and starches so you’ve had see like whenever i ate a chicken tender i’m not looking at it for like a like a beautiful dining experience like that’s sustenance dude like i’m trying to shove chicken tenders in my mouth because i might be under the influence of uh i was gonna say one thing but now i’m gonna say alcohol like chicken tenders don’t equate elegance to me neither are chicken nuggets so you know what i mean like those foods are not meant to be like uh introspective that was not meant to be analyzed in that way so you don’t even like if you eat a chicken tender you’re you’re not trying to look for the crunch on the outside of the double juice you’re not chicken tender it’s not like a flavor broiler that’s what i feel about nuggets interesting also london broil is like one of the worst i feel like the thing our parents grew up eating oh maybe i meant beef wellington oh maybe yeah yeah what a trash can sorry um but no i i feel like that’s me with chicken nuggets it’s just a pure sustenance food and so many of them are so similar like we’ve talked about this before i believe that mcdonald’s does have the best nuggets in the game true just because i think they’re batter it’s technically a tempura batter and it is incredibly crispy and light but that said uh i would easily take a say burger king nugget or a wendy’s nugget uh next to a mcdonald’s nugget and like not feel any type of way about it but there’s certain chicken tenders where i’m like the difference between a good chicken tender and a bad chicken tender to me is a gap miles long yeah i guess i’ve just never looked at chicken tenders in that way i’m just like this is we’ve gotta dig deeper no but this is like it’s like kid food like i don’t think you’re saying nookies ain’t kid food of course they are but that’s i 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their uh component parts and after world war ii uh we get into like the space age when convenience foods foods really rose in america and a lot of like canning and processing food technology was literally just made for wartime like this literally dates back to napoleon actually oh which is really funny oh yeah yeah you thought you thought we were talking about world or two we’re going back to the napoleonic wars well uh but no like a lot of canning technology was literally for napoleon’s army as they were invading russia because like they just needed you know foods and so after every war we kind of get this big tonal shift in what foods people eat and no more do we see that than in world war ii when people came back and i mean one spam spreads around the globe corned beef hash spreads around the globe it’s the reason that americans don’t eat mutton apparently okay it’s because they were given like canned mutton in the rations and everyone came back hating it and so americans tried to really rebrand mutton as lamb and then they dropped the legal distinctions on what lamb and mutton is to be like there’s a lot of really funky stuff but a lot of that was also going into the 50s and 60s uh into like the early parts of you know the like uh was it the the women’s sexual revolution okay uh where a lot of these foods were seen to like free people from domesticity and so that’s when you get a lot of these like you know the start of these processed meats how many times have you heard that like the biggest skill you can have as a cook is know how to break down a whole chicken fabricated chicken all the time all the time such bs because whole chickens are more expensive than a broken down chicken in a supermarket yeah but whenever you work at a restaurant it’s uh the quantity i think i think when you buy mass quantities of chicken and you break it down yourself it’s cheaper that makes sense and then you’re also using it for stock and whatnot but like in a grocery store which is where 99 of people i’ve just heard so many food network chefs like every home cook should be should know how to break down a chicken i don’t think it’s useful at all no me neither no someone did that for you and they did it at scale because it was literally cheaper because of supply and demand economics and they do it better and cleaner exactly uh you know it’s it’s fun occasionally i’ll do it at home just for like nostalgia’s sake interesting but literally the whole chickens that i find at the grocery stores are consistently more expensive than say just buying legs and thighs yeah no i agree with you i think fabricating a chicken is whack i think it’s absolutely wacky i think telling people that it’s important as well yeah oh it’s like fun to do and if you want to use the bones for stock whatever it’s 20 21 honey like what you’re gonna save the wingtips yeah you never save the wingtips i like non on the wingtips though oh what do you think’s a better vessel for sauce because this is this is something this is something well i did teach you how to properly dunk a chicken nugget in that video that we were in for yeah you go uh front and back that’s interesting now a chicken tender’s too long to do that with because the way that gravity works and physics work it like you’re holding in the middle and the saucer just drip so it depends what kind of saucer you are i i am a pretty res um no i was about to say i stick to the same two but i realized that i have at least four to six i think i know what you do you take the ranch you open it you put hot sauce and or ketchup in the ranch you swirl it with the chicken tender you eat it is that correct yeah yeah that’s no you’re right you’re right you’re right and then it kind of soaks into the chicken tender like a french dip you leave it well no it’s just if you guys i stir it very sturdy and then i do barbecue sauce but then mcdonald’s i do honey mustard with the chicken nuggies and i’ll do that with chicken tendees too yeah and then sometimes i do like a kind of like real mishmash situation like um you know like a thousand island d but with other things added to it and so kind of think like what’s the better sweet pink sauce a spicy pink sauce a barbecue sauce and a honey mustard i love honey mustard and chicken match made in chicken heaven i don’t know gosh it again it just depends on what kind of dipper you are gosh i do love dipping chicken tenders in ketchup though very passionate about that very passionate about that it’s like little schnitzel bits like just long schnitzels i love that stuff maybe i think chicken tenders are better for dipping they are they are and i think i think so my reason behind that is after the first bite you have to you have to bite it and go and spit it out like you tried it yeah then no and then well yeah i’ve never done that but i eat it but then what i do i i ate a banana like that one so i just bit off the tip and spat it out and peeled it oh yeah that was that was for funsies those should mess with people uh but anyways the the chicken fibers within the breast right they’re absorbent okay they’re absorbent think about it the chicken fiber’s in the breast you bite it open and then you dip it in and then the sauce soaks in between the muscle fibers and then you can bite it go and suck it out no way i fully believe that and then with nuggets nuggets nuggets i can oh i can suck the sauce out of a chicken tender you think i can’t suck the sauce out of a chicken tender whereas nuggets they’re so emulsified but you’re not getting any sausage okay so i can’t suck on the nuggets that’s not true you said it yourself that it’s a tempura fried batter and you know a little bit of air gets stuck in between there so actually you’re wrong because there is definitely a pocket of air which the sauce goes into with the chicken nuggets and then it gets sucked and then you can suck it up so you’re lying i will say sometimes i did not perjure myself let the record show i did not perjure myself i will say some of the bell no not the belt the ball nuggets the ball yeah which to me are the best yes all nuggets should just be surprised some of them will have a little divot in it and it becomes like a tostitos scoop and then i could use that to really load up the honey mustard so kind of gooey from all the like you know malted extra added to it it’s not from the honey no there’s how much honey honey how much honey do you actually think is in mcdonald’s honey mustard four percent i’d say even less because kfc’s honey they legally have to call it honey sauce and it’s something like twelve percent and that’s in their pure honey i think it’s four percent i’d be shocked honey and then like 30 honey extract okay there is actually more honey in mcdonald’s honey mustard than i would have thought how much is it well you can’t exactly tell but the main ingredients water sugar soybean oil vinegar which that’s going to be any sauce at a fast food restaurant uh and then mustard seed and then followed by honey and then corn syrup solids which is interesting there’s just straight white wine in it like not white wine vinegar it’s actual white wine and macdonald’s honey mustard get drunk get eggs lizard at mcdonald’s on the honey mustard packets um but that goes back to my point yes tenders are better for dipping but the the eating of a chicken nugget is very enjoyable more so than a tender because like two three bites you’re done chicken tender takes too long to eat it too big it’s too big it’s like no you’re you’re the reason that sliders became so popular in america i hate sliders sliders ruin what they ruin the ratio because the burger the outsides cook so quickly exact same ratio if you ever had a slider at a wedding do you have sliders at your wedding i don’t know i barely ate at my wedding that makes sense i was the opposite i was only eating at the wedding so many people tried to talk to me and i just had like a mouth full of yucky toy skewers so i was like oh nicole’s dad uh but no uh what was i talking about i was talking about the idea that on one hand you can call chicken nuggets kind of gross because they use the awful or whatever i mean i don’t think they’re grinding livers and kidneys in there but they’re taking just like the meat that’s coming off the bones of the chicken and scraping it put in there mcdonald’s actually blends skin into their nuggets it’s so good it’s like so juicy and delicious however if you look at like you know blending awful and other unwanted parts into a meat and then you know formulating that into something else that’s called charcuterie right sure that’s what all charcuterie is yeah you’re taking the weird parts of the animal yeah like think about a terrine think about a pate de campagna right sure all this stuff i would love to see like a fancy french charcuterie version of a chicken nugget i want to see chefs like play with this idea of chicken nugget hood and make it something truly spectacular now to this i know exactly how that would happen so you have a plate of food it’s just it’s just a white big plate okay and then you take a turin a chicken turin and you shape it into the chicken nuggets like you have a boot bell ball bone okay and then and then you just add a little bit of like uh you like make little divots in the in the paste yeah like that yeah come on you spray paint you talk to me yeah tell me about these fancy nuggets no i’m trying to be serious and then you spray paint it and it looks just like a nugget but whenever you go into it it’s just like this like like mashed thing inside you know what i mean and then you have a little piece of toast on the side it’s like uh was it heston blumenthal did that meat he did exactly the meat fruit exactly tangerine yeah it’s a it’s a ball of chicken liver or moose or maybe it’s flaw some sort of thing that he what does he wrap something around it or does he just paint i actually saw a video of someone doing this at home and it’s incredibly interesting i don’t remember how it was but it looks exactly like a tangerine complete with the stem and a little leaf i want to do that but with mcdonald’s chicken nuggets as the visual yeah yeah that’d be good now we’re launching a whole like spin-off concept yeah you know where it’s just things that are disguised to look like fast food items except it’s like oh it’s actually a cake or like that that big mac was actually a doorknob the whole time you know or something like that i don’t have the artistry nor the bandwidth to do that right now but someone else can and if you’re listening to this i am giving you my blessing to do this okay if you’re listening have you ever made chicken nuggets yourself uh outside of like fancy fast food like we did that oh you’ve never made it i’ve made it before just because i like to i don’t know it’s a thing that i do for a hobby at home where i just try and recreate fast food things i wouldn’t say that but i have made chicken tenders at home multiple times yeah yeah but never nugget so nuggets are something that you would would you ever even want nuggets at a fancy restaurant or are you fine completely leaving them pure unadulterated forever night in the tired hands of dusk at these fast food restaurants forever and ever interesting always yeah i just need it you know if it ain’t broke don’t fix it you know what i mean i guess that that might be anything is that it sorry that might be an endorsement for chicken nuggets because i’m someone who i’m constantly chasing the perfect chicken tender and i do it at home a lot i love chicken tenders i crave them very often it’s something that i make at home but i love the idea of having a food that you already think is perfect from an establishment that you know where to get it from yeah and that you don’t want to change anything about it i don’t need to chase that high because i’m never going to find it i found it when i was uh seven after dance class so this is like you know uh the the person who was always into you you know and you always rebuffed them uh-huh but you know that they’re gonna be a steady rock throughout your entire life versus the person you put up on a pedestal you know it’s an idea you don’t respect them as a person i don’t respect chicken tenders as an individual i don’t care about their wants are in life or their goals i’m never gonna be able to connect with them on an emotional level you know i just need to realize that chicken nuggets have been there for me all along is that problematic no weird metaphor i mean i don’t know where it came from i don’t know i feel like this is like getting deeper than it has to be do you like chicken nuggets or tenders sir yeah i still like tandies i do too i’ll always like tendees but i’ll always love chicken nuggets i think we can agree to disagree uh but know that i hate you and i think you’re a bad person [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap where you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a life saver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles [Music] all right nicole you’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions i like casseroles [Music] this is the asmr segment do people still watch asmr videos is that still big is it still a sex thing was it ever a sex thing are you into that because this is mr and mrs listener because this is a thing for somebody somebody’s it what i love asmr i like soap cutting videos they give me tingly and behind my ears i’m trying all right first up we got at thomas landoni potato chips lays with a piece of hard cheese on top like pecorino sardo is a godsend that is a salt bomb that’s a salt bomb for me um i like to do this with ritz i was going to say i i oh keebler club keebler club baby all the structure i went to the grocery store with david and i said you see those you see those right there those are the best darn crackers you will ever eat in your life and he’s like can we buy someone i said no don’t keep them in the house yeah like a gremlin when it comes to keebler clubs uh no i there’s a reason i love cheese on top of crackers and that is the cracker gives it a more neutral profile to let the cheese shine and so i respect your potato chips with hard cheese on top there was some restaurant that was like doing they would fry fresh potato chips and then put like jamon serrano just in between layers of hot fried potato chips i can’t remember i don’t think it was in la i just kept seeing this pop up on twitter and then they would shave i don’t know if it was like an aged manchego or something it’s a spanish restaurant uh and that looked like a delight to me yeah that looks like but i’m i’m kind of the cheese on cracker guy myself me too you know the most uh underrated cracker out there chicken in a biscuit i don’t like that it is i don’t like it because it honestly makes me feel like the chicken is stuck in the biscuit and it makes me cut out chicken uh it’s just msg and onion powder and it is a tasty okay next up murder mark says people who don’t shop at asian grocery stores are cowards they are the best stores around um i’ve never understood this mentality of not shopping at a quote unquote ethnic grocery store because you’re scared what is so scary about entering a store yeah there should be nothing scary about it you want your money yeah as well like that’s the point of a store existed yeah why are you scared like i don’t even know how that mentality works like i don’t get it i just i haven’t heard that sentiment from people though you feel intimidated or something uh go to your local mexican butcher go to your local chronic area yeah go to your local asian supermarket go to your local middle eastern market uh you’ll find so many foods there that you’ve never had before maybe and things that are absolutely fantastic if anything i feel like people that work there and the store owners would love to educate you about stuff if you ask them like hey what is this i’m sure they’ll like talk your air off and love to educate you about stuff i love talking to the butchers at 99 ranch yeah and at like supermarkets what’s really fascinating to me is things like the new york steak ribeye sirloin that’s like uniquely a sort of american way to look at a cow and then you go to some place like varieta or mexican carnitaria and you get all these different cuts like arachira and you know all this stuff uh that are really fantastic even thinking about like swadero everyone kind of says suarez just brisket it’s not it’s like an adjacent cut that’s you know used differently so we get a lot of cool products or like uh i was at the indian market recently and got um god it was a ghost chili mango pickle yum oh my holy crap what a tasty thing yeah i think i went to pakistani store and i just got some cool beans and i just like bought them for my mom i said hey mom like these cool beans cook them she’s like okay yeah support your local uh international immigrant run market please at jojo girl 1991 that is a great like aim screen name yeah that is an aim screen name that survived what was your screen name uh big ball of chubs because i was fat to play basketball uh tina’s burritos are the best frozen burritos i think the frozen burrito market needs a bit of a rehaul not not to like you know um abandon the date that i brought to the dance right because tina’s burritos have always been there for me and tina’s red hot beef i will tell you is a very tasty that flavor profile still holds up okay and i used to like i would cut it in half to let it steam out so it didn’t just burn you immediately and then i would just basically fill it like a soup dumpling you know you bite off soup dumpling and fill up the black vinegar sure i do that with a tapatio nice and that is a heck of a meal so i do love tina’s burritos also el monterey does good uh elementary school they do the chimichangas that are really great yeah um tina’s though are a mainstay still delicious but i do think the frozen burrito market i think they need some new players in the game i used to work with n14 as burritos and they were really nice that’s great yeah but i do like el montre more hehe oh girl oops bad donut says mayo instead of butter on grilled cheese yeah yeah i don’t know man it’s good i don’t know i love butter but sometimes the me is you know what i just i don’t want to wait for my butter to be soft enough for me to like think the mail’s just there it’s ready it’s good that’s a good point i mean i always take butter and i just put it directly in the pan i don’t spread it on the bread and i fry my grilled cheese in the pan like in the melted butter in the pan okay that’s like not that successful though all the time it is i mean it becomes tougher to manage your heat yeah i will say the difference so what they’re talking about you spread mayo on the bread and then you griddle it with the mayo on there and mayo is just a combination rate of basically eggs which has protein in it and oil and so that protein kind of makes it just sear up really nice and crispy yeah butter though it’s all fat and it’s going to get your bread just as crispy the difference is butter allows a little bit of soakage because there’s moisture in butter and you don’t get that protein to really crisp it up uh and that is either good or bad thing depending on who you are yeah i love my grilled cheese just saturated in butter i don’t you don’t i like there to be a hard crisp edge softness and then hard crisp edge you know what i don’t like though pretty pretty unanimously is the cheese crusted grilled cheese that people are doing this stuff no it’s not for me i don’t like these cheese crusted things i want my hands to be cheesy afterwards and to me it just kind of i mean i i love a good you know parmesan crisp or cheddar crisps whatever added in the right context but i don’t just want this giant blanket of cheese leather i’m the same you know yeah you know i’m on the same team as you all right at mel underscore ryan frozen tv dinners are pretty much american commercialized bento boxes pretty much yeah yeah uh it’s really funny like reframing certain things in your mind yeah so i mean it makes sense there’s like compartmentalized foods you get you know the little dessert the little vegetable side a little maybe a condiment like uh some sometimes you get the the turkey tv dinner and it’s got a little apple cranberry compo and the gravy and all that um i was thinking the other day i went to a steakhouse and they have a side that is just is actually peter lugar steakhouse in new york very famous spot and they have like a side dish that is literally just a sliced tomato and onion and i got it it’s like eleven dollars and it makes no sense but i just really wanted it to see what it was and it was just a slice of tomato and a slice of bread seasoned unseasoned yeah and you’re supposed to like put their steak sauce on it it was it was a really good jersey tomato and a very sweet red onion i mean it doesn’t really justify a price tag that’s a little weird but it’s a little weird but i was thinking about it it’s punch on pretty much right so pancho are the korean you know sides some of them are fermented some of them are in that family and then some of them are fresh yeah um that you get with your korean barbecue that’s what this was this is panchon for american steak it’s american pancho and every in more places need panchon i agree i want free food punch or like cella team i want free food before i eat that jordan underscore west says white bread ketchup purple onion sandwich sandwich equals my childhood go-to snack uh i’ve heard of people doing peanut butter and red onion sandwiches have you heard of that peanut butter and onion sandwiches yeah i have we no we tried it i tried it once uh it needs sriracha oh okay my friend brandon used to eat that and i would just look at him in awe and discuss an impressiveness like what are you doing he’d like try and i’d be like no i’ve never tried it so i have a very high tolerance for a raw onion yeah me too like i love what i have warmest absolutely i always have a side of raw it can’t be yellow onion it has to be white onion very very good yeah the the raw white onion that you get like at a lot of persian restaurants where you just get the white onion put some some sumac on it yeah eat that with the bread fantastic so i i love this idea i ate a lot of ketchup sandwiches growing up sometimes i would just do uh i would do iceberg lettuce ketchup and white bread what do you mean i’m sorry that was a great sandwich so i agree this sounds lovely all right we got at sir kirsten the tray baked pancake is superior to traditional pancakes especially for a crowd so much easier you know what a trey baked pancake is called a cake it’s called a cake that’s just called that is a an unsweetened cake yeah uh cake which i don’t doubt is probably delicious however i love the irregularity that you get with traditional pancakes you have the little burnt edges in the butter to me you need that also aren’t they like square yeah or triangular when you do it like this yeah yeah i need my pancakes to be circular i agree yeah can’t enjoy it i’m trying to think of a square pancake it makes me deeply uncomfortable yeah it doesn’t fit the narrative of my life no it doesn’t serve me it doesn’t bring me joy yeah imagine yeah no way weird weird don’t like what are like a star of david pancake i’ve made those before really um edem 319 says for popcorn try adding natural maple syrup to the pan once the corn starts popping i don’t want to because it’s going to burn well isn’t how you make caramel corn i don’t know i don’t make my own pot he said add that like added to the pan and i was like do you mean microwave um i have never i don’t believe i’ve ever made stove top popcorn um my husband does all the time he loves it he finds does he get jiffy pop or does he just have popping kernels he puts popping kernels and then he there’s a whole method to the madness he has the whole ritual right now that’s so adorable he loves popcorn like his one snack of choice has been popcorn for like his whole entire life he loves people so i just let him make popcorn all the time and i just watch him i’m like it’s good for you to do this like i’m happy that you have this uh if yeah i mean if this person does it and they don’t think the maple syrup burns and i trust that you can do it without it burning because if you get like popping right at that time the maple syrup is gonna kind of just cover it i’m gonna try this i’m gonna tell david to do this you should do this i’m really curious yeah i did a little cayenne to it [Music] at kyle btt-11 blue cheese crumbles are the best cheese option for a hamburger i think i think blue cheese crumbles with a slice of white american cheese blanketed on top is really good because then you get the meltiness and the texture of that white american plus the flavor punch of the blue cheese yeah i think that’s fantastic that said i think there needs to be a product where people blend blue cheese into american cheese and then create an american cheese blue cheese hybrid craft single style cheese oh yum no one will buy it i know i know i would not i would i have a lot of greasy person that would buy it i have a lot of really good food product ideas for me and nobody else i figured i’m to waste a lot of money later in my career trying to bring one of these to life and my yeah my artisanal pancake syrup business is just not i really wanted to do compound butters with debbie yeah someone oh this guy at the farmer’s market doing compound butters does catch a pepper catch you a pepper butter everything bagel butter oh he’s already got your game he’s got your members he’s got your number he has my google drive first um joy u88 fried chicken in any form is delicious dipped in peanut butter no no no no you’re taking chicken nuggets and or tenders and putting them in peanut butter what is raw no no please i can see a peanut butter based sauce for sure like sauce yes but if peanut butter no that’s that’s tough unless you melt it a little bit well i mean the the latent heat of the chicken should melt the peanut butter no no no the peanut butter needs to be hot do we have any fried chicken in the kitchen that’s very plausible it’s yeah right it’s really plausible i want to try this um because i’m curious because i can see it nugget being dipped in peanut butter but it’s a tender more than a nugget interesting yeah the texture the peanut butter is a little too fatty but it’s like taking like pure tahini and then turning it into like uh what in spanish should be tahini preparada you know what i mean like like you make the tahini with the tahini but people will just call it tahini right but one of them is a sauce mixed with you know water maybe yogurt garlic lemon salt etc if you had that with peanut butter you know mix that with literally the same thing you would make teeny sausages i’m just trying to take this opinion and understand the way that they’re doing it and it sounds like they’re just doing it with peanut butter which i don’t agree with what if you heated it up how do you even dip i’d even dip into you have to heat it i’m telling you you microwave the whole jar of peanut butter no the whole jar you just take like a thimble uh this is wild this is the first opinion that’s truly got me to gasp in a long time yeah which i love because this is exposing me to new food ideas all right we got at nat.francesca buenos are underrated in the u.s most of my friends don’t know what they are kinder is a german chocolate brand that primarily uses a nutella-like hazelnut chocolatey filling in things i also don’t eat much kinder um my sister-in-law uh loves kinder chocolate and she would like import it from germany or she would be there for work and just bring back tons of it wow because i think you can’t what is it kinder surprise eggs kinder joy eggs they were abandoned in the u.s right because of choking hazards yeah cause kids don’t know how to eat government government don’t want people to have their candors i love kinder i love kinder happy hippos i like the brios i like the chocolates i love everything kinder 90 of the time though when somebody from another country goes like your chocolate sucks our chocolate is the best and you try it and you’re like uh it just it also it just tastes like crappy chocolate it’s just like ours you’re not that different i like the kinder that has the white stuff inside of it you know what i’m talking about is it just like a white goo yes i do love light it’s the milky it’s like it’s like it’s it’s like certain condensed milk maybe it’s like thickened a little bit it is so good but i don’t eat kinders often because it’s like a little treat you don’t want to spoil it so you spoil yourself too much i like reese’s sticks because i’m an american dig it i ate lisa’s sticks i ate a reese’s stick the other day and i was like oh what is reese’s sticks tastes like a bald eagle they’re so dry well yeah yeah you gotta dip them in pepsi all right and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzada with the hashtag opinion casserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see y’all next time [Music] when it comes to your journey hyundai is thinking of every mile that’s where the new 2023 hyundai palisade comes in the palisade offers all the technology safety features and comfort a family needs for the journey ahead and boy does it really have so many tech safety and comfort features stay connected with the palisades wi-fi hotspot capabilities so you can keep the kids entertained on a long car ride or help a friend work on the go if you want to start that weekend trip early and if you’ve ever been clipped or had a mishap or you opened the door into a vehicle behind you the class exclusive safe exit assist the hyundai palisade has is a lifesaver it prevents the rear doors from opening if the vehicle detects traffic approaching from behind the palisade also has available third row heated power folding seats which is perfect for people who run cold and it can fit up to eight passengers comfortably taking this car with this much capacity would be a huge asset on that next group cabin you can say that again nicole it’s your journey learn more at hyundai usa.com safe exit assist is not a substitute for driver passenger attentiveness always be aware of your surroundings and attentive of approaching vehicles live of approaching vehicles of approaching vehicles