ramble [Music] if you tried the nature cereal tick tock trend and stared at all those little fruits floating in the coconut water and thought to yourself what have i become it’s okay you’re safe here today we discuss is tick tock ruining food this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and nicole today we are taking on the changing media landscape the old guard is out the new guard is in you got all the teens on tick tock shaking their stuff to dodge a cat and jason derulo making donut lasagna what what do you make of it all right what do you make of it all nicole what do i make of tick tock and do i think tik tok is ruining food hmm yeah well long i don’t think tick tock is ruining food i think tick tock is changing food now yeah but like changing it for the worse in some aspects yeah some content is honestly hot garbage but some content i absolutely adore like let me give you some let me give you three examples of tick tock food that kind of like really made me look at like tik tok as a food medium and i’m like huh this is like legit number one love the tortilla hack no tortilla hack is my mortal enemy no no no i love the tortilla wait tell tell the folks what the tortilla hack is and how freaking inventive it was so i don’t know who started the tortilla hack unfortunately but basically the long story short of the tortilla hack was you take a a tortilla and you slice it down now not the full diet what’s it’s not a diameter it’s the radius yeah now you slice a radial cut yes you slice a radial cut and then you have the ability to fill four quadrants of your tortilla with whatever the heck you want so we have why do you want amazing why not why do you want that they invented the quesadillas they invented a quesadilla yes they did it already existed there’s nothing wrong with the quesadilla and then the let me tell you it’s not a hack let me tell you let me tell you well i feel like a hat because i wish i came up with it but no it’s not it’s it’s it’s cool it’s inventive it’s different i thought it was really interesting let the records show that we also had our own jack-in-the-box tortilla hack secret menu item at one single jack-in-the-box location in i believe university park san diego and so we as a brand mythical kitchen has benefited from the tortilla hack so how can you stand there on your figurative high horse and act like the tick tock hack the first one i mentioned did not completely change some sort of landscape for you as a creator shame on you joshie shame nicole are you familiar with the story of alfred nobel you mean the nobel prize dude the nobel prize the nobel prize dude he was a chemist nicole he invented a little chemical today that we now know as dynamite you know why he invented that nicole he wanted to move rocks he was like i am going to change labor forever no longer will people get hurt moving rocks manually i have created a miracle chemical that can move rocks with a series of combustive reactions and then and then you know what people did with dynamite nicole they used it to blow each other up okay it became a weapon of war so what do you mean he created what i mean so what blowing people up is like the worst you’re telling me so you’re telling me because someone invented something that is used for good but can also be used for bad should have never existed in the first place no i’m not saying that but i’m saying there’s a certain amount of guilt the way that it was used was so antithetical to his purpose for inventing it that he had such guilt nicole that he created the nobel prize series and the nobel peace prize that’s how i feel about tortilla we have benefited humans suck we have and they still get they suck on tick tock i consider the the mass murder of people with explosives akin to the way that tick-tock makes me mad well i don’t necessarily agree with that statement but that’s okay that is one literal tick-tock quote-unquote creation that we personally have benedict from benefited from number two what was her name emily morico emily marie salmon bowl i’m obsessed with that salmon bowl nothing interesting crazy life-changing or like wild happened in that video not one thing break down break down the emily maraco okay uh salmon bowl because that was one of the biggest viral tick tock moments you wanna know okay number one the noises the snapping open of the container the mashing of the of the parchment paper on the rice the noises she was making are very aesthetically pleasing and i’m getting i’m going to get into that a little bit later about how tick-tock and the sounds that food make and how that is aesthetically pleasing and asmr or whatever but whatever i consider myself an enemy to the asmr community i love it are you kidding me i don’t like your little sounds i think the tingles that you describe are creepy they make me feel strange i don’t like it that’s good feels strange feelings asmr my asm article is 30 minutes of rachel ray narrating her chopping bell peppers [Laughter] i love i love that emily mariko video it’s it’s it’s beautiful she she cuts up the salmon she cooks the rice with an ice cube in it the ice cube doesn’t melt whoa um it’s just such a beaut it’s just such a beautifully done video it’s clear it’s concise it’s new it’s different it’s familiar it’s art it’s it’s accessible it’s fun it’s a good video and she kills it and i’m proud of her i don’t think she’ll ever recreate the same magic again impossible she’s going to keep trying it’s not going to happen no but like talk is lightning in a bottle it was such a almost a mundane video right like you said there was no narration it was just sounds she takes a white rice microwaves it with an ice cube on top i guess to keep it moist she mashes precooked salmon into it with sriracha and kewpie mayo we’ll get to that in a second and then she uses the seaweed snacks to eat it as if they were like little itty bitty hand rolls uh with chopsticks i literally did that today with pokey i got it it says crystal forms i do a lot of i do a lot of things that don’t become media phenomenons right like i know you bitter because of it or what that’s the whole point i am bitter because we’re not tick-tock stars it’s fine josh we’re stars and other in our in other ways don’t worry you’re a superstar no we gotta we what a wild crazy time that was so much so that they had feta shortages in sweden i believe sweden they sure did they had feta shortages in american grocery stores because the so you take the brick of feta you bake that with cherry tomatoes and some thyme and some black pepper some aromatics and then you just mash it all up and the juice in the tomatoes creates like a sauce with the feta you throw some pasta in there and then that was the whole vital hack that was it yeah it was a flower like you said it’s cool it’s different people are looking to be excited and why not use food as a medium to excite people josh no i agree i agree ultimately and it was fun you know the thing about the feta pasta too is like it tasted good emily marcos salmon bowl that is a tasty delicious bowl of food that’s pretty similar to a lot of things that i ate on the daily the crazy thing to me though it’s not the way that people consume the content it’s not the way that people make the content it’s how the content is going to affect the world like hereafter in perpetuity right similar to alfred nobel creating dynamite people used to blow each other up crazy thing we’re seeing feta shortages nicole in stores we’re seeing supply chain disruptions qp mayo there were shortages let me tell you let me tell you the same thing happens anytime someone does a like features a tick tock that’s what what are those things called where you spray it on you wouldn’t know you know what you put on makeup oh setting spray there has i have what the hell is setting spray it’s when you put on makeup and you set it with a spray josh it’s like a it’s like a primer it’s like a it’s like it’s like a layer of primer painted on a car primer prime primer’s another thing but it’s like it sets so it’s a sealant it’s a sealant okay i have seen so many setting sprays that i want on the internet but i can’t buy because it’s viral on tick tock am i mad about it yeah but do i understand the power of tick tock and i kind of respect it at the same time yeah it’s the pow it’s the power that absolutely frightens me though so a while ago a while ago we can trace this nicole it’s on the internet uh it was march 2020 we did uh is instagram ruining food now it’s probably april 20. i don’t know we just instagram ruining food right and you know we talked about the power that instagram has all the kind of crazy trends on you know what at that time it was primarily an image-based platform now of course it’s a video based platform to try and keep up with tick tock uh but back then we’re like man these images of rainbow bagels are kind of annoying and it’s giving people a skewed perception of what it actually takes to create food etcetera tick tock is like that but it’s times ten thousand and that’s what scares me so they’re coming out and the way this actually affects people in the real world um ghost kitchens right they’re now starting to create tick tock ghost kitchens nicole where you are really yeah dude yeah dude they’re launching like a lot of them there’s some articles out there um they are partnering with one of the biggest ghost kitchen companies to literally be able to log on to a delivery app and then order your favorite like tick tock trends uh and you know if we know anything this isn’t like a real argument i’m not out there like advocating for i don’t know proper labor compensation but this is just one element of it i mean i am but you know what i mean i’m not exactly like uh i’m like a union foreman of the ghost kitchen uh workers united um but what i’m saying is like we’ve seen so many um garbage ghost kitchens out there right think about the mr beast burger do you mean like collabs is that what you’re talking about yeah yeah so like so like media based personalities collabing with you know uh restaurants and kitchens out there mostly restaurants during the pandemic who really struggled to make ends meet like you know mr beast uh i i got nothing against the dude he makes incredible youtube videos um the burger the burger was like it was just it was like bad right like it was a bad i didn’t try it did you try it yeah i got it last time it came around um it was just it was not good it was a normal burger that i mean sold like millions upon millions of them across america and you know he put out a tweet that was like hey i’m supporting you know small businesses uh which i suppose is true because what they do a ghost kitchen right a lot of them are a restaurant that is probably struggling that then takes a contract to cook a normal burger with some bacon on it call it the mr beast burger give it to a delivery driver use the app and send it out but they’re gonna be making like pennies on the dollar from that because mr beast is taking that cut with the licensing deal the ghost kitchen all the apps they take their cuts and so it’s like these restaurants are making money but they’re making money at a fraction of what their labor actually costs right it’s like all these restaurants but are they still making some sort of money when they would you rather make three dollars or zero dollars no that’s a good point however would you rather would you rather make you know would you rather make three dollars or make five dollars that could potentially be there if these competitors didn’t exist right but they do exist so you have to keep up with the times if you don’t exist if you don’t keep up with the times you’re going to be left by the waist but but then it’s just a race then we’re just in a race to the bottom nicole there’s going to be every japanese restaurant you know is just going to be selling emily maraco bowls and then two dollars from each bowl goes directly into emily marcos pockets instead of the hard-working chefs and restaurants nicole is that the future you want to see is that the future you want to bring kids into no well i don’t really have a choice they’re going to come into whatever world is out there but i feel that dude you and me both but at the end of the day i mean they’re doing tick-tockers are capitalizing on a short amount of time to make a big impact and that’s what they’re there to do and if they have the ability to go into ghost kitchens and make a mr beast burger and make more money and people are gonna buy it so it’s it’s it is what it is it’s kind of awesome i don’t think it’s ruining food though like the word ruining like there’s some content i see out there and i’m like this is horrific like i’m like why am i watching name it what’s what’s the worst tick tock content that you’ve seen when it comes to food like just like just like there’s just i don’t know his name there’s one guy who like drenches himself in sauce and stuff and it’s like yes i don’t need this in my life honey i i don’t know if i can imitate his accent but i think it’s a fake accent as it is do you know what i’m talking about yeah the videos are all like how normal people eat french fries and it’ll be a little bit of ketchup and he dips it in and it goes how i eat french fries and then he literally takes a 10 gallon bucket of ketchup and and violently pours it on his counter and then goes perfect yeah except he does it in what i believe is a fake accent i’m not i’m not a big fan of that do you know how many followers he has nicole how many millions 23 million followers there you go there you go wild well that’s that’s the food content that i believe is ruining food that is the kind of food content that ruins food do i think uh someone making a crispy salmon avocado uh rice paper dumpling is ruining food of course stuff is awesome yeah that kind of stuff i appreciate making ramen creamy awesome teach me how to do that yeah the creamy ramen trend that was if there’s one thing that i can respect most about tik tok trends it is the creamy ramen trend of people adding mayonnaise to hot ramen because that yeah mayonnaise and eggs because i’m in favor of adding mayonnaise to more hot dishes yeah oh here’s a josh here’s a great example remember dalgona coffee do you remember it yeah do you remember the great dalgona shortage wars of 2021 nicole there were at least nine different proxy hold on the cia no i’m kidding i do i do remember dog going to coffee like do you see it on any menu at any coffee shop anywhere i feel like i did at some point but no everybody forgot everybody forgot and that’s the effect that’s just the ephemeral that’s the ephemeral what’s it called like notion nature thank you it’s the ephemeral nature of tiktok like things are just gonna be cool for a sec and then you gotta move on to the next thing that’s just how it is there’s no i don’t see the longevity of food and tick tock like that doesn’t that doesn’t come to mind like someone standing there and making a bunch of content that’s gonna be like consistent for them and like people are going to be shocked by everything they make like that’s not going to happen anymore like people don’t do that like it’s just you made one good video cool yeah well i mean but that said there are certain people out there who they chase trends really really well right every time a trend comes out whether it’s uh frozen honey or dalgone coffee or dalgona candy from squid games sure they’re honestly crazy that was crazy dude it’s honeycomb it’s delicious it’s it’s incredible the videos of people making dalgon a coffee uh dal gonna candy literally consumed my feed consumed every other video i would see was someone making it and the song and i’m just like it’s amazing it was incredible i don’t see those videos anymore do you uh no no i sure don’t i sure don’t but i guess is that part of the problem though like that people’s attention spans are i i don’t want to sound like an old scorn you sound like an old fart i love it craziest thing is nicole is that like a bulk of our income and attention and audience is all from youtube yeah which youtube was seen as like the death knell of traditional media a couple years ago and now are we the we’re the old fogies on youtube you’re saying the tick tocks or anything i’m with the times baby nicole we’re both hurtling towards 30. at which point as a youtuber they just send you to an island where you retire with all the other youtubers and you just talk about the algorithm you go the algorithm will will come beam us up to algorithm heaven and then we will all live a life free 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love him so he’s growth he’s cool he’s young he’s fun i wish he still wore his yarmulke but it’s okay i get it he’s just a key he’s just a cutie and like he knows how to hop on trends and now he he’s like on drew barrymore’s talk show and stuff like he was he was actually on chopped which was crazy yeah he was on shop i think when he was 12 years old he was on job he started on chopped loved food bought made his own production company i guess did his own did his own like little tick tocks did his own youtube videos now he works with drew barrymore on traditional media like he’s so young and he’s doing amazing things like i’m i’m proud of him like i just look at him and i’m like i love your content i love you as a person i want to see you grow i want to see you progress um who else do i love there’s a couple that’s that’s a really cool thing about tick tock is that you see it gives a it’s a very low barrier of entry of a platform to get in right like even even youtube now right you can certainly still create your own youtube videos but you have companies like mythical where it’s like hey this has become our whole business like we we shoot with a you know two or three camera setup when we make our food videos the videos that we’re making on youtube it’s a food network show a lot of them are a lot of them are food network length too we’re making 35 minute videos i’m making a medieval christmas feast don’t get me wrong the caliber of our videos are incredible and they really are done exactly like a classic tv production tick tock isn’t like that anymore but people people don’t necessarily need that to be satiated by uh by food content because the next one is simply a swipe away who else do i love i love do we do bop yeah she makes korean food i believe and she always says don’t yuck my yum and she’s pretty and i love again this is i’m gonna talk about the noises the asmr and the food community have finally come together without the addition of a mukbang it’s beautiful the noises the rips the tears the cuts the scrapes wait that’s that’s the reason you’re into this is because you maybe love asmr and you love food but you don’t particularly love mukbang and i love pretty people and you love pretty people and there’s a lot of pretty people on tick tock so many people the i have one quip though about about food tick talkers stop scraping your knife to prove a food is crunchy no that’s the best part oh you steer off the duck breast and you scrape the knife against it you hear that yeah i get that if the food is like actually crunchy people are like like i don’t need you to run your knife over it to prove it’s crunchy like how about you cut into it so i know it’s crunchy like that’s one of my biggest biggest food pet peeves when it comes to tick tocks i don’t need you to scrape your damn knife on the damn crispy food don’t do that anymore well there’s a couple things like that that have become signature to the style of making a tick tock video okay and you’ll see throwing your knife on the cutting board throwing the knife in the cutting board oh i did that in a recent one that’s coming out somewhere i just watched a cut of that uh people picking up a large piece of meat and just squeezing all the juices out in front of the camera to prove that it’s juicy sure we talked about this a while ago like it’s it’s creating images of food you’re not actually creating food that people eat exactly there’s a dude there uh early pete we’re friends with with the homie early pete you know early i think so he he does a series called stunt food or good food where he just reviews tick tock videos and says if they’re stunt food something that is made solely for the camera to get a reaction out of uh or something that is actually edible and good which like you know i don’t i think it’s a it’s a hilarious series and i absolutely love pete but you know i’ve grown up in food media like my entire career this is all i know a lot of things have to be stunt food you know you’re out there you’re trying to grab people’s attention uh you got to make some things that are kind of outlandish and crazy we make a lot of things that i happen to think are really dope and really good like the the the pop tart lasagna or the pop-tart ravioli for instance one tasted really good we were all slamming that after we finished shooting that too really fun and inventive but of course it’s a stunt it’s a spectacle you’re on there to grab people’s attention and that’s what a lot of people are doing sure no i totally agree i mean we make stunt food oh of course oh it’s fun as hell i love it i was making stunt food before the cameras were on i i once made a 10 pound quiche filled with uh a hundred mcdonald’s chicken nuggets for a friend’s birthday beyonce uh speaking of speaking of pretty tick-tock craters that i really enjoy and make really good food can i shout some people out of course please i’d love for you to do that pierce abernathy i think i love pierce abernathy i think he modeled for he modeled for one of the big italian fashion houses i think oh really recently yeah dude check it out it was the thing uh anyways uh but no he he makes food that i really really respect it is absolutely delicious he films it in a very aesthetic way the asmr is there he’s very quippy about it and it’s insane on tick-tock because you have now the time limits a little bit more but you had like 60 seconds to get your point across to still inject some personality into it so people care about you a little bit uh but he makes primarily vegetable-based dishes tons of dips and salads and sauces using vegetables in ways that people wouldn’t think i mean it changed the way that i cook like these doodles take like cooked zucchini and pine nuts and i don’t know tahini and lemon zest and some herbs and just throw it in a blender and just be like this is my new favorite dip because that’s kind of how he talks i tried to imitate it and it’s awesome and then he does a little giggle to prove that it’s so good uh and it is and i’ve i’ve made a lot of stuff that he’s made uh other people like uh you know newt newt oh do i know newt everybody knows newt everybody knows new news got like 10 million followers and newt also is uh la times did a story about him i mean this is a dude who was uh living in a trailer and then you know he would set up his camera and he would make he makes like very simple honest good food right like the first couple of videos i saw you’d make like you know balsamic glazed chicken wings something that’s like a little inventive a little cool or like blackened salmon with you know uh fettuccine alfredo it’s like good food that’s teaching people how to cook and he was learning kind of in the process uh and now he’s you know got a fair amount of money i don’t want to speak to newt’s net worth um but he’s like a really incredible story of a young person who had a talent a willingness to learn and an eye for aesthetic and tick tock gave him that sort of success that i think is very very well deserved you know we forgot to mention the queen of it all tabitha brown tabitha brown i knew you’re going to talk about tabitha brown she she’s awesome she knows oh she’s incredible but i mean tabitha brown was a like a long working actress for for years right yeah but i don’t think she really like uh smashed onto the scene the way she did the first video i saw of her was a buzzfeed video where she made tacos out of walnut me and i’m like what is she doing but then i was amazed at how beautiful the food looked and all the colors and how bright she was along with the food and then she made some carrot bacon and she exploded on the scene on tick tock and we’re just like was that the video that that exploded tabitha brown was the carrot bacon i have a feeling that was the one she probably had a few more but i remember seeing her vegan sushi recipes that was and they all look like a delight nice i like vegan sushi it’s good i love vegan sushi there’s a place called m cafe that makes like almond meal vegan sushi it’s really good wasn’t m cafe like it stands for macrobiotic yes yes and it was like a madonna it was like madonna was like really into the macrobiotic diet in the 90s and that’s why that restaurant exists really i didn’t know that yeah i remember going into some weird hole there’s a couple restaurants in la that were just like run by cults on their weird cult diets oh well what are you gonna do anyways uh but yeah so no tick tock i mean as much as i can cringe at some of the content of people just like wasting 10 gallons of ketchup for clout and food waste is always going to be a part of food media i mean us included it’s the reason that we i mean it’s also we’re just like to do good things but you know we donate to the la food bank every month um because food waste is kind of a part of it uh but if you watch a show like top chef and you think that they can just stock an entire pantry with all the ingredients that people want to use and they don’t just throw all that fresh produce away you’re fooling yourself because you have to succeed give it to people that’s what i like to do every friday i like to get a little grocery bags and i say everybody come get fresh groceries and then people normally do that so i hope that’s what other people do i like yeah we literally have like a shopping day in the mythical kitchen on fridays where we lay out all our groceries and we send out a picture and people come who’s the best shopper who’s the best shopper on the mythical crew uh chris marina lovely always takes every single i say take this and he says okay yeah sound guy chris has taken home more pounds of fresh meat from the mythical kitchen than anybody this dude will be like hey we got a six pound london broilers like i don’t know what to do with it i’ll take it yeah it’s a good sport morgan morgan’s morning everything morgan’s got a baby to feed michaela takes a lot of stuff she takes a lot of the pre-pack david michaela’s picky though yeah i know there’s a yeah david hill he comes through like a bulldozer takes it on i said god bless take it all i don’t want to see it anymore i take a lot of stuff home i take oh i take a lot of stuff home i’ve eaten so many heads of cabbage from the mythical kitchen it really is for you so where nicole we are we are also on tick tock we are uh where do you think what is the myth yeah follow mythical kitchen on tick-tock we do weird stuff uh where do you think we fit into all this do you think that we are simply responding to the times do you think we’re adding anything new to the conversation do you think we are the enemy well considering let’s be self-reflective okay okay let’s be a little bit self-reflective i really enjoy our content i love it i think it’s good i think it feeds our audience i think our audience responds well to it i feel like i’m in a review right now and i hate that it’s being broadcasted to like a bunch of people’s ears um i do enjoy our content again uh i had to uninstall tik tok from my phone because i am so obsessed with it literally i still go on instagram reels like all the time like a crazy person but like i’m not on like i can’t have tic toc physically on my phone if i did it would be a problem like you would never see me um but no i think our content is incredible i think i think we again satisfy a certain demographic and i think we just got to keep being true to ourselves i think the secret to being successful on tick tock is being true to yourself and really being inventive and creating you know that lightning in the bottle of effect and being okay with you know having one great video and a bunch of other like you know having one kick-ass video and then having a bunch of like alright videos is okay it’s just how the algorithm works yeah i i think you tend to have an air of non-judgment when it comes to anything changing right like a lot of times when we talk about like i’ll be like hey nicole does this changing tide and landscape in the industry bother you blah blah and you’re like bother me or not bother me it doesn’t matter because it’s happening you know like it’s how you respond to it which is which is like honestly an attitude that i really respect and wish i kind of had more of um but i’m like kind of trying to get there i think a lot of it is just me dealing with thoughts of my own mortality for if we’re being dead honest about this do you mean like actual mortality or online mortality oh god are they different nicole once one suffers ego death is the death of an image equivalent sasi ne pazun per sun right um isn’t that no but i mean renee mark margaret renee renee magritte yeah yeah great french surrealist painter um no but i’m talking about uh one day are we gonna wake up and there’s i mean three years from now there’s going to be a new app right sure and we’re going to be recording the same damn podcast going like is flooble flabble ruining food it’s like yeah the fact that you can lick your tv screen and then you get or your google glasses ice cream and then it tastes a little bit like the food it’s you know so i mean tides are always going to change i think tick-tock does have a sort of unique problem to it that’s also an opportunity which is the algorithm is so good that it just feeds you the things that you crave like true if you if you leave a corgi in a room with unlimited food it will eat itself to death right creatures don’t always gravitate towards the things that are good for them so when you create a media platform that is specifically designed to let people naturally gravitate towards anything that might not necessarily be the best thing right that’s how we saw um youtube lead to extreme conspiracy theory videos people keep clicking on more extreme videos in the right sidebar it’s the same thing on tick tock you linger on a really crazy video a little bit too long because it catches your eye and then they feed you even crazier videos nicole that’s how i ended up on plastic surgery recovery tech talk that makes me wildly uncomfortable what a subset to be hot josh it’s the weirdest subset of tiktok it makes it very uncomfortable but that said it wasn’t any outside force that was doing it to me necessarily it was me sure i wouldn’t be there unless i was giving it that ugly people wouldn’t be pouring 10 gallon buckets of ketchup on top of french fries unless people wanted to watch people pour 10 gallon buckets of ketchup on french fries it’s us nicole the world made us sick how can it heal us that is the words of lead singer of every time i die jeff buckley i rest my case i for one can’t wait for smell-o-vision [Music] nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] we didn’t talk enough about jason derulo’s tick-tock pivot he’s my favorite tick-tocker he’s a he one what a good-looking man my god have you seen his baby no is it a good-looking baby it’s a beautiful baby his wife is gorgeous but their baby’s so delicious i don’t know what the baby’s name is but just i want to kiss it i wanna that dude will make like the most disgusting if we ever think what we do is like stunt food and decadent like jason droulo a lot of it like looks pretty good and i eat it but he’s just like drenching donuts and bags of m ms and cake batter then baking that and covering that and strawberry syrup and then deep frying it all and then putting it in a funnel cake unbelievable what i wondered though like he had no say in any of that right there’s no way jason derulo’s sitting there writing down it was all his his manager and agent come on but who that who the hell in the right mind just goes hey jason derulo i am your manager and jason drurillo goes oh great do you think we should come out with a new single or maybe do some sexy modeling shoots because i’m jason derulo and they go no no hear me out we’re gonna take a whole bag of m ms and then we’re gonna melt that down we’re gonna deep fry it around the sleeve of oreos like what does that even have to do with jason droulo but it’s stuck and it’s incredible and people watch it and he’s so hot my god i’m glad you have a type yeah he’s got man he’s just got a such a bright smile great body yeah he’s a good-looking guy he really is i’m looking at pictures of him right now okay should we go into the opinions like was part of this whole entire thing yeah probably you started you started i’m thinking about it jason okay evan is locos says ramen is a soup dish not a noodle dish well it depends on who you’re asking are you asking me i i yes we host the podcast that he wrote to yes he’s asking you i think it’s a soup dish well now i’m gonna leave it at that yeah it’s a noodle dish ramens ramen’s a noodle dish ramen’s a noodle dish um there is soup in ramen but also like men in japanese literally means noodles so if you’re what does raw mean what does raw mean in germany the egyptian sun god um but no you know what i mean like uh if you took the noodles out of that dish it would no longer be ramen ramen the noodles are endemic to the dish ergo i believe that to be a noodle dish that happens to have soup in it there’s other forms right mazamin uh you know 10 10 men stuff like that yes because i think you would still call those ramen noodles that is with sukemen right i think so is that accurate i think is a dipping one so you dip the noodles in the broth yeah it’s like a really concentrated broth that’s almost like a pork bone gravy i’ve never loved it as much as it was like kind of a very trendy thing in la to have i much prefer uh soba i’m a soba guy okay i love buckwheat can we like have soba together because i’ve been trying to get some soba and it’s really hard also you remember the day it was raining recently i tried to go get udon and little did i know that everyone else in the whole entire universe in los angeles wanted to get udon on the same day as me so i was really mad about it but i’d love to get some soba with you sometime cold sober yeah i love i love cold so but it’s japanese buckwheat noodles it’s typically served on like a mat or they’re kind of drying out and then you get just this like cold i don’t know like shiodashi broth and you dip em in and oof there’s a spot uh in south la that does it with mentaiko which is the cod row cold cold cod rosova baby yum yum eat it up yum yum all right here we go at dan thomas bet i can guess where he’s from marmite and cheese is the best crumpet topping dan i’m not gonna be essie here i have never once thought about the best crumpet topping can we you need to do us a favor josh explain to the people what a crumpet is because some people don’t know bro you explain what a crumpet is how the hell i’m supposed to know what it is no you do it okay so english muffin it’s an english it’s basically an english muffin right but english muffins and crumpets are a little bit different the crumpets that i have had uh they’re like an english muffin except there’s almost like a perforation on the top so it’s like a kind of like a yeasted leavened but cooked on a pan like an english muffin but like less crusty than an english muffin and a little bit i think this is like a canadian bacon versus p meal bacon situation where like it probably means one thing to us in the states like a scone is like different in the states versus in britain but now i don’t remember what a scone is like it like a biscuit like american biscuits don’t exist in the uk they call it cookies biscuits i’m gonna make an american biscuit would be like a scone or something well i’m gonna be honest with you i’ve never had a crumpet before never have i ever had a crumpet but i have a strong feeling that salted butter is probably the best thing to crump it i’m just gonna guess nah bro i’m going i’m going uh raspberry preserves and clotted cream on the crumpet josh i went and had south african [ __ ] sconeses the other day scones scones i had a scones with with homemade lemon curd and whipped cream oh was it good that was my south african how am i lemon carrot whipped cream [Laughter] as far as like south african there’s there’s a sausage called bor borverse yes i’ve heard of it that’s a good sausage typically i believe a a beef sausage with coriander that’s nice bunny chow you ever had that no but i’ve heard of it it’s like stewing a brick of toast yeah you hollow out like a whole bread loaf and you shove a bunch of uh typically like a chicken curry and at least that’s what i’ve had is chicken curry yeah but the only time i had that was at the mach in israel um but yeah crumpet the yoda yeah the makhan the yehuda market in whatever city in israel i don’t know have you ever heard of that my god nicole culture is deducted off of my jew meter anyways dan marmite and cheese i say those are uh the flavors are too complimentary i would just go marmite and butter unsalted butter let the marmite shine okay also vegemite vegemite’s better than marmite oh my god what vegemite’s better my vegemite has more of a salty shark more than vegemite marmite too deep and yeasty too rich for my blood i like it i like that’s why they call nicole the yeasty boy let me read the next one oh shoot it’s mine it’s mine it’s your turn it’s your turn oh it is yeah sarah thiat says ranch on peanut butter and jelly tangy sweet and savory yum no no that’s screwed up dude no don’t do that like alfred nobel straying too far from the light of his original invention causing immeasurable violence sarah that is what you have done with your ranch pb j you’ve caused immeasurable violence i i have like you know we’ve made like ranch cupcakes and stuff there’s something about ranch on something who’s made ranch cupcakes was that before your time did i make those before you were at middle school i think so because i’ve made that before bro they are bad they are bad news ranch and sugary things do not go well together it’s just there’s a lot of onion powder crispy treat i made a ranch crispy treat that was pretty bad that was pretty bad it was pretty freaking gross ranch and sugar that’s that’s honestly a thing that i can’t do which you think i might be able to okay ranch and lasagna though ooh here we go at food chemistry lab what are your opinions on charring peppers even though it’s unhealthy um yeah that is actually one of the biggest um foodborne what’s the term person that causes cancer carcinogen uh people talk about sugar causing cancer or red meat causing cancer a charred food the data suggests from the world health world health organization it’s like absolutely insane how much charred food uh really affects like cancer rates and whatever um yeah and it’s all because the carbon is like burnt and denatured so it turns into free radicals sure um that said i don’t know man i don’t like take a ton of risks like driving fast in the rain you know i don’t do extreme sports all the risks that i take i’ve saved it up for foods that i enjoy eating and charred foods is heavily among them life’s too short to eat steamed vegetables until you die i feel like there’s a lot of other risks in life that we don’t even know about you know we could get nicole we could get mesothelioma and we would have to call the losses of james sokolov to represent us that’s a shout out to la local lawyer commercials um no so i i would never let anything like that uh affect my life um but uh that said it is like a real actual uh health risk factor that i don’t think enough people talk about yeah um you know i’ve never even thought about this but uh it’s unfortunate and i love charred food but i like to uh peel the char off so it’s not too bad i just eat it ugh no i don’t like to eat burnt food i don’t like the way burnt food tastes i don’t i don’t like burn i like a significant char i don’t know man i got to think about this i got to talk to my mom about this nicole what like dietary measures do you take to protect your health or like anything no i mean i didn’t mean to ask that as a leading question i’m just wondering like like my brother stopped eating red meat like that was the thing he’s like really you know i’m getting up there in age he’s 33 now so old and he was like i’m not gonna eat red meat anymore so we’ll like go out to nice restaurants and we just he even sticks to it there we’re just you know order the fish um i haven’t gotten that far in my evolution as a person yet i like all foods and uh i don’t know what’s gonna happen if one day i have a rude awakening i’m gonna make oh well that last chocolate chip really screwed me over but i don’t know i haven’t done that yet but i’m sure it’ll happen whenever like my next doctor’s checkup they’ll be like you need to stop eating x and i’ll say okay yeah and that will be the wake-up call that um will probably give me my uh dietary restriction that i need yeah i just i try and uh exhibit some sort of sense of balance in a way that’s sustainable for myself which manifests in a just a lot of a lot of greek yogurt i really hope they don’t say stop eating eggs because i like to eat eggs yeah and i’ll be i will i will go to the grave before i only eat egg whites god what a depressing no way speaking of eggs uh this one jimmy7474 says eggs are overrated and baked items well i think they’re saying like egg as a flavor instead of like adding eggs to baked items i don’t think they’re talking about like the chemistry of like adding an egg to baked item i think there’s talking about egg flavored things in baked goods like an egg what do you mean like an egg tart or like a salted egg yolk no i think i think they’re talking about actually adding eggs to like a a cupcake batter or something oh really yeah i wonder if they’re vegan i don’t know but that being said i do think that like egg alternatives like flax eggs and like banana and like applesauce like i think yeah pork blood no yeah pork blood blood that’s a big one use so much by other people yeah when i bake uh eggs do the lifting man they have to that’s how i know it like they they do the lift and i’m a big big egg guy love me some flan love choco flan where you bake the cake underneath i was just telling david i gotta make some flan in this house man yeah no eggs aren’t overrated you’re overrated sorry i feel attacked oh i like this one i like this one at walden sends underscore nh steak is kind of gross yeah dude it’s okay so animal flesh it’s just but it’s like an unadorned animal flesh you know what i mean that’s the weirdest thing unadorned you don’t need to adorn everything you do you do you it’s not a decolletage juliet great use of decolletage i’m gonna play that in scrabble tonight julie and i uh we ordered from my favorite south indian restaurant in l.a shout out to mayura and they’re utter bombs are delicious um but i mean everything in their food is just bursting with flavors south india this place reps kerala which is from the spice coast like literally where the world’s best places come from everything they’re first in your mouth julia took a bite and she was like can you imagine someone coming here from like india from the city of kerala to the united states and seeing people just eat a steak and potatoes like it seems barbaric it literally seems primitive it’s like you didn’t even have time to develop enough of a food culture to put anything that tastes on it you know that’s the way that i look at it whereas we tend to have the opposite you know feeling where in america a lot of people like you don’t need to mess with a good steak you just need salt and maybe some butter or whatever um but for me i’m just like nah dude that’s kind of gross i don’t give me the give me a num prick sauce on it man give me some flavor give me some flavor barbaric i’m on both sides of the playing field i love a beautiful advanced uh exquisite uh detailed meat but i also love a ripping through flesh and just having salt as the as the addition i like barbaric food i do i like simple barbaric food from someone who eats so much garbage and so many different things so much i eat so many unique cool things i’m so lucky i’m so lucky sometimes just biting into a piece of meat that just has a little bit of salt in it is so rewarding and so comforting it’s incredible red meat causes cancer all right on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog it’s a sandwich if you want to hear more from us in the mythical kitchen we’ve got new episodes for you every wednesday god if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or edhandizade with the opinion casserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see y’all 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