ramble [Music] cheeto dust lives on your fingers forever but which cheeto lives in your mind forever puffs or crunchy this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh shearer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and nicole today we’re talking about cheetos i’m excited i’m god i’m so excited i really like cheetos i do not like original cheetos oh i don’t i don’t okay okay okay so at all my judgment’s about to be clouded here because 95 to 99.9 percent of the cheetos i eat are gonna be flaming hot well yes i understand that but sometimes a good old crunchy and or puff cheeto yeah don’t don’t give away your hand okay don’t never show them who you actually are i used to play poker in uh fourth grade do you really yeah that was the thing when we were growing up yeah i used to want to be a professional poker player what stopped you um reality yeah that’s fair and also my dad was like this is not a good job um speaking of which my dad it is his birthday and uh i’m gonna give him a bag of cheeto puffs because that’s his favorite happy birthday morris he loves cheeto puffs your dad’s a cheeto puffs man interesting is that okay so are you hidden in the couch cushions are you the rebellious daughter are you the daughter who like grew up wanting to be her dad like do you want to spite your father do you have like a cheeto edible complex no i’ve never had a cheeto edible complex but i will say i love a good puff but if there’s two in front of me i’m reaching for the crunchy you’re reaching for crunchy interesting the original yeah for sure so speaking of childhood traumas and familiar relationships nicole my mother wasn’t a cruel woman but she was very cold no she was acting she was like pretty cool actually yeah but no my brother my brother uh exclusively ate cheetos puffs nice and so i grew up for a long time right if we were at the grocery store and cheetos were on sale we get a bag it was up to him to decide because he was older and he could threaten me so we would always get awesome nicole i resented that from him you never like turned on the charm and was like please big brother can i please get the crunchy ones no i don’t i think that works for you i was like what were you doing as a child i didn’t have a lot of psyche i didn’t have a lot of games it was more like hide in the corner and be silent oh my god well honey let me just say the amount of puppy dog eyes that got me things when i was a kid i can’t even mention man no we weren’t that it was just like let a tantrum explode out of you once every nine months and then you go and see like a you know child counselor and then okay that was more like my game so you were only allowed one bag of chips and your brother would always pick puffs yeah yeah so like i never really got the cheetos crunchy experience and so i’d see people eating them and i was like wow this must be a better i can ask you a question like in school like you never had a friend and you would be like can i try one of those friends what’s the [ ] you never like tried when did you first try a cheeto i remember that i don’t remember i don’t remember my first cheeto that’s not like a big milestone yeah either like i i would eat more puffs than crunchy significantly so i always thought the crunchy were better because it was what i wanted but then in a metaphor of the grass is not always greener i realize that crunchy is not where it’s at and then cheetos puffs are a significantly uh just more pleasurable eating experience for a myriad of reasons nicole let me count the ways okay go ahead it’s all you one lighter and puffier okay consider we’re called vanishing calories where if you eat something that is light and puffy you assume that it has fewer calories and you can eat more stop full stop you associate cheetos puffs with health yeah don’t you you’re cold nicole it’s got macronutrients in it it’s got carbs it’s got fat okay it doesn’t have the other one doesn’t have any protein but it’s got two out of the three macronutrients okay i’m not gonna give it to you but next turn that into muscle uh number two they like if you bite them in half you put your tongue on it and then it like kind of sizzles and dissolves you know what i don’t like the one thing about cheetos puffs is like it like gets caught in your teeth and it becomes really gummy but then you have a snack for later that’s what i’m saying that’s an opportunity yeah yeah yeah oh number three number three number three they’re symmetrical which i appreciate because cheeto’s crunchy right no two are the same i love that though no no because because because nicole when you want to do walrus tusks when you want to do all recess what do you do when you grab the crunchy cheetos oh games that match right here you can’t do walrus tests but you know what you can do with the crunchy cheetos you can open up the bag pour it in your mouth all the little different sizes go into your mouth fits perfectly crunch oh you get the jenga inside your mouth like that smart exactly also the other the other part about crunchy cheetos being asymmetrical is their artistic value exactly you get sometimes like one that looks like uh what’s uh the flintstones the flintstones guy the club hermann that’s the name herman flintstone he’s in the first year yeah herman everyone there’s no way his first name is herman blerman flintstone news yeah dude that’s his original name herman mikey look it up herman blurman flinstone there’s no it’s b-l-e-r-m-i-n herman bleuermann there it is are you kidding me the man called friends herman so the thing about herman blurman flimstone it’s actually flimstone with an m it’s what are we talking about wait wait wait so this is bothering me i’m talking about the artistic channel okay the ones that resell on ebay for like a hundred thousand dollars there’s like a cheetah yeah there’s a celebrity yeah i love jesus cheetos i love jesus everyone loves jesus and i get the fact that if you want a jesus cheeto with puffs you have to actually whittle it yourself do a little bit of scrimshaw so that’s fred flintstone no it’s herman blurman flintstone nicole i end up watching it all the time you’re a monster you’re a monster and it’s the the jetsons it’s like carl carl carrington jetson carl carrington uh jets you know i watch cartoons you’re happy pretty much you’re having one of your moments you’re having one of your your moments um no i just as i love puffs i understand why puffs are popular but a classic cheeto has the crunch it has i think it’s cheesier i think it is it’s denser i think that cheese falls into the nooks better and it gets cheesy i ever get like the super cheesy one you’re like huh yeah well i’m kind of nervous with the super cheesy one i’m like is this gonna be too much cheese for me to handle oh wait maybe it’s absolutely there’s no way the synapse is in your brain say this is too much cheese no no but i like the rush nicole i like the rush yeah you know it’s like jumping off like uh or going down a big water slide yeah you know i i just like the shape and size of a cheeto even though it’s irregular something about it just is more enjoyable the the puffs are too uniform i know what i’m getting i know i like to live a little dangerously you know it’s like russian roulette but with uh crunchy chips how often are you playing russian roulette out there you going behind like the alley the 7-eleven in burbank just spinning a revolver barrel no oh wait what’s the i was talking about like craps is russian roulette with a guy oh my god yeah what is friction related definitely with a gun oh the deer hunter right that’s the thing yeah yeah yeah i’m sorry i mixed up my games i see where you’re coming from i see where you’re coming from on the asymmetricality being a good thing because if we look at the rest of the chip world here there’s a chip that i really dislike that prides itself on its sameness and that is pringles or pringles if you pronounce it the french way and i do not enjoy pringles i i think they are just by far an inferior potato chip really i love the gnarled irregularity of say a kettle chip where they fold over on themselves there is something so satisfying though about taking like four pringles i just like figuring out like that you know what i mean no yeah you do i guess it’s my walrus tusk thing but for for pringles because you can prank duck you can that’s the [ ] that’s the fun part yeah it’s duck billy you can’t duck bill who like invented the duck bill of a pringle so i’m so sorry i ate a ton of eggs and drank a diet dr pepper right before this nicole today we asked the question how much eggs is too much eggs to eat before a podcast and four might be it you had four eggs yeah how many eggs do people normally eat in a serving that might be a good podcast yeah i’d say two i’m generally five to six shots i’m dead seriously you’re like do you take out some yolks no wow no no no i if i could add it to you i do that i don’t think it’s bad for you though right i think eggs are fine yeah i think eggs are totally chill i don’t like know enough of the hard data to say but i do love eating five to six eggs at a time you like love what do you you love it yeah like normally well i’ll just scramble five to six eggs with my hands would dip them in some hot sauce and ketchup this is real this is what i do on my weekends i don’t eat eggs most days against i think came from like the you know uh middle east i think maybe the ottomans and they were in or no the moors forks were from the moors okay and then they were in italy for like 600 years until they eventually reached england and england just outright rejected forks they called them effeminate they’re like that’s an italian thing and then the church actually banned forks because they were like god gave you forks they’re called fingers we are proud masculine english men we eat with our hands upsetting gender politics aside i regret to tell you what else the church of england was doing during that time um but i did side with them on the hands over forks issue i will say that i will say that the expulsion of the jews that was bad they shouldn’t have done that the hands forks thing that’s good that’s nice okay well now i learned um a little bit about you speaking of cheetos yeah you know what i like to eat my cheetos with chopsticks oh you’re one of them yeah i mean i embrace the cheeto finger i try not to because my hands are in so many other things but i don’t want it to be like tainted by cheeto dust but i love a good cakey thumb yeah once you get because there’s a blush there’s a level at which your thumb becomes fully caked in cheeto to where you can flick it off like dried paint yeah that’s the one of the reasons why i don’t have long nails i’m not lying is because well number one i work with food number two cheeto dust under the nail no can’t do that [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental us and there’s no antibiotics or added hormones plus it’s packed fresh and shipped frozen for convenience so you can save time on your next grocery store 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whopper you have junior molars where my wisdom teeth used to be i kind of just like android i’m as i scrape it against my teeth and i kind of put it like next to my gums do you suck do you suckle you a suckler you suck along with them because i’ll go too i’ll go one of two ways sometimes i sometimes go up like this and go like i have to scrape first yeah i always scrape first because of the sheer volume of you need like an abrasive is your mouth dry oh man yeah no i was imagining suckling on the cheeto fingers my own cheeto fingers not your cheeto fingers there’s probably like a subsect on like a certain website where that exists but now that i’m thinking that’s like a fun thing for a romantic partner to do sucking the cheeto dust off your fingers that’s the thing that i’ve never really intimate to do to somebody i cannot imagine anything more intimately because we all have our own ways of doing it what is your way what well i scrape against the front tooth that’s one way yes right and then uh another way is i rub my fingers together like a grasshopper’s legs and you create little just ball of eraser yeah and then you just shove it in your mouth you gotta pack a lip with it oh no and then the other way is just a nice suckle and thumb massage you know you just kind of like massage it against your tongue lick around a little bit explore you know just playing around this is a horrible podcast we signed off on this so the history of cheetos because we have something some cheese puffs we all know how cheetos are made right they’re a puff not everyone tells them so cheetos uh methodology somewhat similar to popcorn words popcorn you take a whole corn kernel it’s got to be certain type corn that has been dried and then you run it through high pressure and heat and eventually it just kind of goes and explodes out of there this is effectively doing the same high heat high pressure process but for ground corn meal sure and so you can extrude it into any shape you want so it’s actually invented um by a company called flake all right flake up they can flake anything come one come all flank uh they made animal feed and so they were initially like i love how all these things are like aspartame was invented trying to make it adhesive that was for safe windshield glass and cars and then they like tasted it and they were like diet coke and so they were initially making animal feed and then they were cleaning the equipment trying to find a more efficient way to clean it found out if you know they made the equipment hot ran water through it then some corn squirted out and went and puffed into a delicious little thing and then they ate it then they completely rebranded uh and then about 10 years later is when cheetos were actually invented you had some other companies like one called cheese wheeze then you had cheese doodles pre-date cheetos oh wow canadian i don’t think so no those are cheesers oops canadian is cheesers i think cheese noodles are american okay um but then you get actual proper cheetos that were out in 1949 uh and a lot of people credit ce duelen for inventing him but i think ce doolan is a scam artist he’s a shark he didn’t invent nothing nicole i’m sorry doolin and doolin family your family sucks no they’re probably well you know i don’t know liars he’s he’s the inventor of frito in the frito-lay partnership never mind um but the actual story of the invention of the frito it was a oaxacan immigrant in san antonio named gustavo alguin nice uh yeah and he you know obviously fritos fried masa effectively fried tortilla albeit a little bit thicker a little bit saltier some more whole corn in there and then he wanted to move back to oaxaca so he was just trying to like sell his invention in all of his patents and his machines and ce duel and bought it for pennies on the dollar and turned it into a multi-multi-million dollar industry so cheetos crunchy were the original right you can imagine like these gnarled little things just being shot out of this you know hyper heated pressurized cannon they’re all gnarled looking and then it was 22 years later in 1971 i believe uh when the puffs were finally invented so for me the puffs represent like the space agent well this is two years landed on the moon this material it’s the future is it everything uniform it’s like we’re all going to be living in these giant door like you’ve seen the matrix yeah i’ve just hooked up to the battery just hook me up to the battery and put me into the cloud upload my consciousness you know i don’t want to do that i love life yeah dude you live your own life in the metaverse mark zuckerberg is there sucking on your cheeto fingers you don’t want that what i don’t want anyone sucking on my cheeto uh you’re not even zuck he’s he’s the sexiest man i don’t want suck no but i think that literally i i’ve always been the person who doesn’t want the original because i’m always like there can be something better okay but i’m also often wrong in that yeah i think you are too thanks wow god i thought you’d be like no josh don’t be so hard on yourself no no i agree like sometimes if it ain’t broke don’t fix it if it’s delicious cool you can innovate within the initial creation but yeah whenever you get to out there like reel it in i’m a big fan of you reeling it in like too much is too much sometimes getting back to your core competencies yeah i’m i’m all about core confidence right and here in mythical cats we’re all about core competencies churn rate and synergy yeah and algorithm oh god we are all about the algorithm i don’t really care about there’s other cheeto varieties out there though and they’re trying to do new stuff but tell me oh remember there’s a crisscross applesauce one yeah the wait did they do those in savory though or those just the sweetos oh my gosh i don’t know because my favorite enriched puffed corn product dusted in spicy powder is not even represented in the the puffs it’s hot fries hot fries baby i don’t like hot fries at all i really hate why hate chester’s hot fries one they’re better than handicaps hot fries they get stuck in your teeth but not in a pleasant way that cheeto puffs what is it that they how do they i don’t know the difference in how they would make them i don’t know it’s but it’s almost like it’s sticky it’s almost like there’s no skin like there’s no crust right yeah bite into a cheeto there’s a definitive crust where it’s been fried yes yes it’s almost like this has been cooked as like a loaf and then sliced into perfect fries yeah you know what i mean it doesn’t have that sort of membrane on the outside i need that membrane yeah but there’s something about the amount of fries that you can fit in your mouth and just turn in just a paste of spicy goo that gets stuck in your teeth people astronomical numbers on that one the coefficient’s huge i’m not i it doesn’t it doesn’t serve me i’m not a fan i’m just not you can do you i don’t care i’m proud of you you you know who you are and i love that but like not for me sorry would you like like puffcorn no i thought you’re saying trader like trader joe i was like no i don’t like any of those trader joe’s like bs snacks actually trader joe’s had the uh they had like a jalapeno cheddar version of yeah they have those they’re fine they’re fine but like i’m just gonna you know save a few bucks that’s what the other trader joe’s to me can’t compete on they’re talking equivalent though really i am all about their talky equivalent i don’t know what it’s called but i like vastly prefer their peanut butter cups oh well yeah oh like all that stuff their chocolate program i’m just gonna go ahead and call it that really good stuff their flavored nut program flavored nut oh my god don’t get me started on the spicy and sweet pecans oh bro you’re talking 425 for a bag let’s go you cannot beat it david and i cleaned a bag in maybe like 14 hours that stuff is incredible i don’t know how they do it uh well they got these cashews they have like the thai green curry lime and the lemongrass god did you say cashews because they also have almonds do they the cashews are all about the cashews they’re better 100 you know who makes some of the most underrated spice powders in the game and you’ll notice this if you can’t watch me eat what tampico sweats the juice no that’s that’s tofu chicken no tp goes definitely juice oh i don’t oh yeah no but i’m talking blue diamond oh oh licensing their damn powders to put on cheetos cheetos has tried to innovate in the flavor department and i think they’ve really failed i was going to add a lot of ways like what’s your favorite like flavor derivative the only thing they’ve really had success with i mean flamin hot is fantastic you still get a fair amount of cheese flavor of course extra flamin hot is good i probably wouldn’t pick it right off the bat pretty much just tastes like more sort of cayenne uh they’ve done uh flamin hot limon which to me was monster takis it’s good but i don’t know i kind of enjoy the spicy with the cheese i think og flamin hot’s my favorite and then they’ve done the jalapeno cheddar which i like it but i don’t i don’t get it it’s a weird jalapeno flavor where it’s like uh you don’t know if it’s fresh or it’s pickled jalapeno flavor almost grassy but it’s also acidic yeah yeah yeah it doesn’t it doesn’t uh what is it called scratch that itch that i’m looking for no no it’s like it makes the the cheesy chip a little bit worse yeah and then the and i know we already decided that cheetos aren’t chips um yeah it makes a spicy chip it doesn’t satisfy like a spicy chip either yeah and they’ve done another one that i was incredibly excited for and then i have never been this disappointed in my entire life uh other than when my son told me he doesn’t want to follow in my footsteps to be a shopper don’t have kids i have three children they’re not real they then who do i talk to on the phone at lunch nicole uh no the chipotle ranch cheetos do we have those have you have you never had them i think i had them and they tasted kind of like uh gasoline yeah they got they tasted industrial in a really well i didn’t really like those i think sometimes like the smoke on a chipotle especially if it’s on a liquid smoke just gets acrid didn’t really like it that was a bummer and so i think that you know we’re talking about puffs first original um yeah i do believe that original crunchy cheetos are the better brand to build around sure like you say innovate within correct correct correct i think i think the puffs i might enjoy eating them more on a personal level again i’m still jumping for chester’s hot fries i dislike puff corn yeah i was gonna say what about the puff corn you’re not about that like no i know uh pre-packaged like already pop popcorn was the big market that took off in america yeah the white cheddar smart food stuff is smart good that’s good yeah they’re they’re great i think there’s there’s some kettle corns out there i’ll shove down a box of cracker jacks if i’m feeling frosty a little bit no when’s the last time you had a cracker jack uh i had fiddle fattle recently is that the one with the cheese you know it’s like bootleg cracker jack i don’t know fiddle faddle no i’m not white what is a fiddle faddle they’re called you can’t make fiddle faddle and cracker jack a race thing even though what do you mean cracker jack is a racist thing it’s a little battle they got little bean toffee peanuts in the popcorn it’s really good yeah it’s a delight okay you know it’s good but they don’t say buy me some peanuts and fiddle battle in the song so nobody knows what fiddle faddle is i’m sorry but no i i do like pretty actively don’t like popcorn i don’t like popcorn what about the cheetos mix-ups yeah no it’s the cheetos it was it was like the equivalent of salt yeah like the equivalent of chex mix and it just had crunchy it had the weird basketball looking thing with the little holes in it oh yeah yeah i had um i had some puffs and some other weird nub i don’t even know what that nub is but one of these guys oh yeah wait there’s no pretzels in there are there no i don’t think there’s pretzels thank you oh we should talk about what the best we should talk about the best uh thing in a box in a bag of chex mixes oh that’d be good what’s the best check yeah maggie write that down maggie what’s the next test mixed part what’s the best part of chex mix it’s the friendships right josh it’s the friendship that’s right nicole did you know josh that online a cheetos sheep like harambe the beloved gorilla sold for 99 000 on ebay is it still can i still bid i don’t think so this was in 2012 what’s the resale value is it an nft why don’t we i don’t want to ever say the word nft on this podcast again why i have made a reference calm a hot dog is a sandwich podcast brought to you by solana nicole and we will i don’t know they make fake money but people’s bias gosh this is a world i do not want any pardon okay you dabble i don’t even know i don’t even know what the word escrow means yet man and i don’t want to google it and i also don’t want anyone to tell me what it means it means the bank owns it what yeah no i thought it was like a you know a bunch of black birds that’s gross there’s crows over there if you were to try and introduce another flavor to the cheetos line what do you think because right now they are solely resting on the flamin hot cheeto laurels okay crunchy cheetos puffs original all that they’re done loaded nacho loaded nacho that’s okay yeah that’s interesting i mean honestly like a partnership with taco bell taco bell already had the doritos thing that was a huge boon to both of them sure right and so if you could partner with ketchup pepe cheetos no but that’s too up market that’s like if you’re selling snacks in the mainstream snack market um there’s actually a study done about the like amount of words that are used on up market versus down market snacks because if you’re selling a five dollar bag say like kettle brand chips right they’re the perfect person to do kachowi pepe right you know uh just more words more things that people wouldn’t understand pepe yeah they would have to say like parmesan you know like you just have to spell it out they can’t have any exclusive language because it’s down marketing so so my current my current uh ideas right now elevator pitch we have loaded nacho catch your baby got killed yeah catch your peppers don’t we’ve 86 to catch you with pepper um um i don’t know i mean like burger patty mouth onions i feel like something in and out queso queso is a hot button word right now sure you know but i mean i know queso is technically and non-technically spanish or cheese i believe also in tagalog they use the term queso yes no but i’m saying like you know there seems to be some sort of like hot button millennial gen z facing flavor right there that thing do you know maybe you throw maybe throw an actual name of pepper in there maybe you throw a habanero maybe throw ghost pepper in there and then combine them queso i keep seeing it i know it’s over saturated and it’s not even spicy no it’s never actually spicy because you can only really you could orange you can only reach a certain level of spice until it’s like illegal to sell i mean not like illegal just people won’t buy and handle it right you can’t have a mass-market audience and so the place to go after that is sour i mean taki’s already got that with their nitro turbo pickle did i spicy i think i made dill pickle cheetos did you i did oh my god you did i did were they good they were so delicious i’m trying to think of what i want from my own cheeto experience because i love like what are your favorite chips like your favorite chip flavors outside of cheetos um well that’s a loaded question i love all chips i find i’m an equal okay oh hold on let me talk um i love kettle i love kettle brand uh i grew up eating their dijon mustard is it their honey mustard chip dijon kettle brand to me it’s a single potato chip i think it’s probably my favorite i also love lemon chips i also love a good ridged salt and pepper as well i’m a salt honestly salt and pepper is first the with the ridges kettle brand ridges salt and pepper honey dijon and then um what i don’t like salt and pepper barbecue like you don’t like that type of i don’t care for barbecue korean barbecue korean barbecue’s i eat yeah it’s a little bit too sweet for me but yeah i’m just gonna take those two those two chips are like my favorite um let’s see what does that have to do do you think well no cause i’m trying to think of either of those you think could translate from say a potato chip to a cheetah or do you think that flavor profile cheeto needs cheese you think so cheetos need cheese i think if we do a barbecue situation i don’t think it’s gonna work if we do a honey mustard version i don’t think it’ll lend itself i will look at it and desire it to be cheesy interesting and the thing about doritos is cool ranch is like cheese adjacent you know what i mean because it’s dairy so yeah i mean not every doritos flavor necessarily like salsa verde for instance right that’s got no difference how do you know there’s no there’s no cheese i don’t think there is there might be but but i don’t believe there is so i’m saying doritos they’re associated with nacho cheese but you’re not necessarily getting cheesiness and everything but for some reason i agree with you the cheetos needs to have some sort of cheese component because the honey mustard cheeto would probably be pretty delicious i probably enjoy it but it doesn’t feel right but it doesn’t feel right like when i see a cheeto i know i’m getting cheese no matter what and i like that i enjoy that salt and vinegar cheetos i hate salt and vinegar never well what we’re really saying nicole is we demand more cheeto autonomy cheetonomy we need more cheetonomy out there we need more free market cheetopotalism cheetopotalism we need more options yeah because crunchy versus puffs i mean i’ll fully come around and say that i agree the crunchy is de facto the better better it’s the better cheetah even if i reach for puffs or fries or little balls you can shove your mouth you play chubby bunny you know i agree that crunchy of the one to build around i think they’re doing a disservice by not building around the crunchy cheeto better with more flavors and we deserve better we right at frito leia dawn cheetonomy cheeto tommy cheeto is that the right word cheeto autonomy cheetah dominique she’d been top shipping it [Music] all right nicole i heard you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitter verse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] we start we have a quick announcement our very own trevor everts has a new podcast coming out named trevor talks too much because um if you 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troll and leave one star reviews don’t leave one star reviews pop tarts aren’t ravioli just tell that to me to my face kevin all right first up we got at betsy rose 23 maple flavored bacon jerky is the best jerky that exists way better than regular beef jerky my problem with bacon jerky is it’s just bacon i don’t like bacon drink it’s bacon in a bag i like beef jerky bacon beef juicy yeah bacon is kind of already halfway to jerky if you’re cooking a crispy right you know what i mean you ever had bacon turkey yeah i don’t like it it’s like a dog treat yeah it’s worse bacon uh i don’t really understand that but i understand the want to put as much liquid smoke sugar and salt in your body as possible and so that’s a pretty good way to do it is that maple bacon jerky but no honestly just buy uh bacon bits in a jar true it’s like bacon dip you can pack a lip of bacon it’s better gosh okay um steel nation 19. my wife thinks it’s disgusting great way to start any sort of opinion but my go-to sandwich is a bra schwinger vidalia onions and white wonder bread 999 brown schweiger brown shrimp please don’t yell at me our people are pretty supposed to not want that um brow schwinger i’m guessing is some sort of brat liverwurst oh really is liverwurst yeah it’s like a chopped liver but like mashed into a circle it’s great i uh last time i had this was speaking of jews at uh marv’s deli out in sherman oaks nice i woke up really hungover and i actively craved chopped liver when i’m hungover and i saw they had a chopped liver plate that’s such an interesting thing to like can’t escape your roots when you’re you’re most vulnerable and so i go there i’m like marv give me a chopped liver plate and it’s just marvin the deli it’s like an 87 year old man he goes ah my wife made me take it off the menu and i was like god dang it marv and he was like ah nobody ordered it in three years like well i did marv and then he’s like you got a union job and i was like i just can i have a browner sandwich instead point is marv gave me a brown schweiger sandwich uh and it was really freaking delicious just chopped liver but homogeneous a little bit more set really well seasoned great with vidalia onions i’d put a little bit of spicy brown mustard on that as well fantastic great yeah yeah all right we got at kitty chaotic oh i hate this so much muffins are a fork food if muffins aren’t a hand food what is um it depends on the size of the muffin if it’s a big big-ass muffin you gotta fork it well it’s an ass muffin if it’s a large ass muffin if it’s a muffin with a large bun nothing got cakes is the muffin too thick to be handheld you gotta use assistance with the fork if a muffin too thick you must have quit that’s that’s what they say when you said it’s a it’s a size issue i thought you were i was imagining like a bunch of tiny little muffins that you ate with a fork i was like what kind of small muffins is those little those little bits those little bites yeah those are fun oh god those are good like whenever you get like one of those xl like brand new like a big coffee shop yeah yeah yeah yeah like you need assistance um i don’t think you do though do you have that little self-confidence to be able to like shovel it all nothing to do with confidence oh no i’m saying me you should have the thing on your own i’m confident in eating something with my hands you’re vain you’re not confident i’m just saying no no i just think whenever you’re dealing with something like whenever you’re out and like you’re out and about at a coffee just a woman about town eating a muffin [Laughter] like in sex in the city yeah like you know like it’s not like it’s too round and like you need to cut it in half and you need to like take a little nipples no you rip the top off you fold that in half you compress it a little bit you shove that in your mouth see i hate when people take their their like baked goods and they squash them with their hands you’re getting rid of all the fluffiness all that beautiful rise you got you’re just screwing it up by squishing it what i do with my muffins between me and god i don’t but a fork doesn’t even solve because i see the issue with that muffins array crumbly you get crumbs everywhere but a fork makes that worse to me you have less dexterity with a fork and also they’re for effeminate italians according to the church of england in the 17th century not my opinion i love a good feminism i don’t believe in gender essentialism but i do believe in eating with your hands next opinion fine greg cherry brand says there’s only one proper way to eat a hostess cupcake swirl first then cupcake then chocolate so how do you i don’t think you can remove the strawberries you see the swirl is an endemic part yeah it’s like in the chocolate how do you even so i think i think what they do is they go with their finger and they scrape it in the in the pattern of the swirl okay just eat that first interesting and then they remove the top and then they eat the cake and then they do the chocolate part last thank you very much nicole rest your case uh yeah i think this guy’s weird i don’t know it’s tell you i think it’s a great you know i eat my kick cats in a very unorthodox way i like kourtney kardashian oh my god one of the top three kardashians i eat all the sides and then i lift the top off eat the top and then i lift the bottom off eat the bottom and then i eat the center wafers i’ve been trying to eat the apple pie kitkats for about two years ever since they hit shelves and i haven’t been able to find them i’m gonna buy this one for you right now can you please that’d be really awesome um yeah i i get everything about the hostess cupcake thing except for eating the swirl first if you’re just eating the cake from the bottom up you know eating bottoms that’s fine but no need to remove the swell all right we got all right at nick j this morning i tried eating my scrambled eggs with bolognese and it was surprisingly very delicious in my mind a less holy version of shakshuka everyone should give it a try nicole are you ordering those kitkats yeah i just got them on amazon tomorrow they’re having why they’re coming dude what a good day i need to realize giving me what i want thank you for giving me the tools to help myself uh bowling man is ridiculous bolognese speaking of less holy shakshuka is called eggs and purgatory yes right correct uh uh all purgatorio i’m saying italian probably you eat it with a fork or with your hands i do the scarpetta with flatbread i love scar pedals some people don’t know what scarpetta means and i believe it is the act of taking bread and soaking up the liquid of your food that you were eating yeah i think it i always thought it came from like the latin root to like scrape maybe i know i think it’s like boot and there’s some weird roundabout translation maggie’s click-clacking over there looking up yeah the scarpetta taking the bread wiping it and all the juices on your plate it is a wonderful food experience absolutely fantastic yeah shout out to the italians shout out to uh who opens garbetta the guy oh scott conant shout out to scott conan yeah he had a restaurant called yes he did and i was very young when it opened in beverly hills and i always wanted to go with my friends like hey guys let’s try this really cool italian restaurant like we’re like we’re like what like maybe like 16 like we didn’t have our own money and stuff and they’re like it’s so expensive because the spaghetti was like 19 and now we go spaghetti yeah and now we go and we spend 25 dollars on spaghetti i missed an opportunity to come perfectly good restaurant yeah come back come back to beverly hills make another restaurant i want to eat it shout out to patricia cornwell who wrote a book series starring a character named kay scarpetta yeah scarpetta means to make the little shoe nice that’s amazing the remaining sauce in the dishwasher okay okay okay shenanigan gandalf says my wife says a bowl of melted cheese counts as soup and i need you guys to settle this please my wife that’s a monologue from the 2009’s borax i love cultural learnings of america for make improvements glorious nation kazakhstan i think so something like that i love borah it depends on the cheese i also love cheese spins in the cheese yeah um no i think melted first of all tell me one cheese that you could just melt and it doesn’t stick everywhere velveeta okay cream that’s one that’s true mascarpone mascarpone doesn’t count enough chatel no brie no breast sticks shrimp potatoes shrimp salad shrimps i’ve been on a real big boat it’s not soup it’s not soup it is just melted cheese what if you add milk to it have you ever had like cream there’s like i think it’s called cream of cheddar from campbell’s no i’ve never had it i’ve seen it yellow yeah i don’t deal with it yeah if they can pass that off a suit that’s that’s what this comes down to if you believe that campbell’s soup corporation world leader in soups which i think they’re really hurting at this time because everyone after 1990 who eats except for ted cruz ted cruz ted cruz travels with his own canned soup weird little goblin uh and anyways uh yeah if you believe that campbell’s can call that soup yeah maggie’s now searching i love that maggie’s just take no one asked her to like start researching stuff but she’s sitting over there listening because she eventually like edits and produces this podcast she’s just taking over research ladies it’s great it’s great yeah ted cruz got freaky with 100 cans of soup after his honeymoon that’s a weird headline of course it’s a vice headline wow way to just tell me the news vice your turn oh it’s my turn alright we got at bloom purple rose i think i found peak tuna salad not confident already they only think recently replaced half the mayo with gochujang and served it in a halved avocado after this no other tuna salad will be enough okay half half the mayo with gochujang that’s strong i know kojijong’s the fermented rice and pepper paste delicious everyone should have it in their fridge yeah you never know it’ll come in handy i think a lot of people though mistakenly use it as a hot sauce hot sauce as a concept is like pretty american is it in terms of having like a thin homogeneous sauce yeah that you put and then you make choco choo chong by thinning it out with vinegar and some other stuff to make it more of what we would use hot sauce but like most of their cultures there’s a it’s a lot more pepper paste like think about sambals sure stuff like that a lot more kind of chunky stuff um and so i think a lot of people cook with it in the kitchen and they kind of just like use a lot of it this sounds like a lot it sounds like a lot of gochujang it’s intense i don’t know if i’d like it with canned tuna either i might it maybe gives off like kind of like a spicy tuna vibe in like a weird way the avocado it’s like a it’s like a cheaper spicy tuna situation i get it i get it it makes sense in like a weird way i’d probably i’d rather go sriracha on this one though you know i think the structure might be too acidic um i feel that i understand this is too acidic for fish fish fish loves acid you know i love how this is the one that’s really dividing it’s culinary world i know i’m happy you’re happy i love putting i even have avocado you just chop up the avocado and i think it’s a better eating experience you know yeah i’m really mad about this i’m really disappointed i’m sorry bloom purple rose i’m sorry you don’t deserve it don’t knock it josh don’t knock i have to try it i have to try it i have all these ingredients at home i eat so much canned fish ian cauli says matzah are a pretty lit bread crumb option during pesach when i can’t have one cup of rice at dinner i crumble two mozza crackers fry them with olive oil with grated garlic bay seasoning and louisiana hot sauce it’s great for pasta too does this mean that this person eats mots instead of rice it sounds like that’s what they do during oh i don’t do that no you’re you’re folks yeah so rice is cool right yeah so safaridim we are good at eating quinoat which is beans and rice and stuff and the ashkenazis do not eat any of that stuff which kind of sucks like it’s hard for you guys no you see mozzarella dude this is good this dude’s dealing yeah ian’s dealing also i have a feeling this person’s a bodybuilder at least bodybuilding adjacent because he specifically said one cup of rice yeah yeah i respect that i respect measuring out the matzahs for the macros yeah that’s we need more bear juice out there okay are you trying to eat beer kinda yeah i think thank you uh no this is i i it took me a while for me to love matzos to really appreciate just like the stark simplicity of just that delicious like toasted grain fire flavor it’s good and now i like really really appreciate like i would love to be eating a matzo right now except i’m going no refined flour good for you just cause i want to try not from like uh i want to get more shredded but it is definitely that as well okay that’s fine i felt the need to justify that’s okay i like matzah sometimes i have mozza when it’s not passover oh yeah it’s good all right we got at smokey the butch broke ham and pineapple woke bacon and pineapple bespoke tindori chicken and pineapple honestly sounds good really tandoori chicken and pineapple sounds good like making a pineapple chutney if that even exists i don’t even know i think it could definitely exist i love uh what’s that hawaiian place we order from at work sometimes i don’t even know i don’t even know about anybody oh no hawaiian bar no it’s not oh no it’s not moana is it really it’s mulan they just use the disney i mean i know moana i don’t know probably not i don’t know i love they they do a dish they call spicy pineapple chicken what they do is they take uh chicken thighs and they just grill them and then put them in the most sugary teriyaki sauce and then a bunch of sriracha and canned pineapple and it’s delicious so i love the like hard grilled chicken with pineapple thing but if you’re talking about this in terms of like pizza because i think if they’re talking about bacon and pineapple is this a pizza but in what other context you have ham and pineapple and bacon and pineapple oh my god never what i’m saying and so chicken on a pizza to me i don’t love it like i like a barbecue chicken pizza yeah but i don’t even need the chicken i just need the barbecue okay imagine this you make a curry scented barbecue sauce and then you put up you chop little pieces of chicken and then you put pineapple you might grill the pineapple out beforehand and then you put even more barbecue now we’re rolling it’s a good idea yeah that’s smart yeah i like this kirbystar727 says i eat kimchi on hot dogs i pour some juice on the bun holy buns can be dry and then some kimchi wrap them in foil and warm them in an oven while i cook the hot dogs and then i put the dogs on top of the warm kimchi amazing very detailed this is incredibly detailed very um i hate hot anything i kimchi coal i was just gonna say that i i like a kimchi chicken like the stew that’s good i like kimchi jjigae but that’s the extent of my warm kimchi even then it’s like it’s it’s one of my bottom chicas you know like i don’t love you know what i mean yeah um and so i don’t know about this and i i also prefer but i love no i like warm sauerkraut on hot dogs you do i do warm kraut cold mustard on hot dogs i like i like cold kraut i love sauerkraut as much as i mean i i love kimchi but i vastly prefer ice cold kimchi just eating straight as the bunch on as a side me too um i really love sauerkraut though on a hot dog the slightly cooked flavor like to me kimchi it’s especially because you’re using the napa cabbage like the heels especially it all gets sewn in there that can be like kind of tough and for me it kind of obstructs the hot dog whereas using the white cabbage for um something like sauerkraut i think you’re getting a uniform texture that to me sings with the uniformity of a hot dog yeah you know what you could do you could just chop up the kimchi i believe that’s what they do i believe they say they they chop it i don’t know which i respect or do they’re not no no no they didn’t specify the kimchi juice to moisten the buns that’s an interesting thing i don’t like that i i get that because i like i like a fair amount of steam in my bun that’s why i boil my hot dogs which people think is weird i don’t think it’s weird it’s like the way that people cook hot dogs you boil them boiling hot dogs is not weird my preferred method not that but what is your preferred method so you take a knife and then you cut little slits in the hot dog no and then you put it in a skillet with a little bit of oil you’re letting it split you’re pre-splitting it you’re doing like the cesarean on a hot dog no i’m giving it like pretty little marks i’m giving it little like cuts episiotomy not not cesarean episiotomy is that when you cut the yeah ouch i know you’re doing that to your hotdog think about that why why are you associating a hot dog within a pc i can’t even say it episiotomy it’s not that hard why are you why are you equating the two they’re two very totally experienced don’t don’t google images though i know i don’t need to i mean we should all be familiar with like the reproductive you know it’s it don’t like the body thank you on that note thank you for stopping by a hot dog is a sandwich we got new hot dogs new sandwiches all the new podcasts coming out of the mythical kitchen and new episodes every wednesday dad nailed that one if you want to be featured on the opinion they’re like casserole so josh can talk more about it uh and pc what episode episiotomy so nsync would say a peasy you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzonda with the hashtag opinion casserole uh yeah for more mythical kitchens where nicole and i work you can check us out on youtube we watch new videos every week of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram of course where else would you get a mythical kitchen yeah don’t send it to our house with pictures see you next time [Music]