ramble [Music] chefs they’re just like us they put their socks on one leg at a time they eat taco bell in their car at 1am while crying to 80s love songs today we’re talking about what chefs actually eat when no one’s looking this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs as a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and today we are excited to be joined by the one and only maddie matheson matty’s an internationally recognized chef and personality who’s been breaking barriers since his cooking debut back in 2003 he’s currently hosting just a dash on his own youtube channel as well as eat out america with benny blanco he also wrote back-to-back new york times best-selling cookbooks maddie matheson a cookbook and homestyle cookery maddie welcome to the show welcome to the show good to be here thanks for having me i have quite the resume you do anything we missed do you want to add anything in there ah all around good guy super handsome that’s a good one you know empathetic lover yeah like it’s just a lot of empathy in the love making and um you know no i don’t know i don’t know what else i do who cares honestly okay that was good that was good though that was good i felt that speaking of who cares wait also hold on my brother gave me an icebreaker should i drop the icebreaker if you’re interested sure i’m ready for it well maddie’s the first guest to be in the studio since my brother was in here which is hilarious so you got a lot you got john sharer to live up to okay that’s right that’s right he’s like a mortgage equity specialist or something so who likes wine okay uh but we were hiking this weekend and i told him that maddie was coming on the show and he goes i got an icebreaker for you and i go whoa that’s incredible what is it and he goes tell him that i ate his beef and cheddar sandwich in adelaide australia yeah wow [Music] i had a beer and barbecue festival yeah he said it was good wow that’s a nice compliment it was good thank you john he had like a better words to say yeah well you know i love australia adelaide great spot and you know made a lot of beef and cheddars it sounds great man it sounds great uh you said something earlier maddie you said who cares who cares who cares who cares let’s examine that because honestly no no okay hold on who cares no but that seems to be like a big part of your attitude towards let’s just say food media which is like what we’re all participating in right now it’s about to get really meta up in here because we titled this what are chefs actually when no one is looking yes because all people see if any of us are when they’re looking literally right we’re always eating on camera we’re cooking on camera and like specifically your lasagna video the chorizo lasagna on just a dash just always really spoke to me because you’re like i have this metacritique on food media we’re like i’m cooking this fresh i’m not just you know putting something in the oven and then taking out the swap later and all that and you get kind of real with it sure what do you actually eat when the cameras aren’t rolling like you know when you’re not incentivized to cook the wildest stuff on youtube to get views what are you actually eating um what am i really eating well yesterday i had udon noodles and some tempura at a japanese uh food court which was really nice lovely and a lot of hot dogs i love hot dog boiled hot dogs like a nice boiled hot dog i respect the boiled hot dog that’s an underrated just like a piece of like white bread and like mustard and like some onion good way to eat a hot dog and then i see i’ll eat any but the thing is like i just spent uh the weekend in palm springs lovely and uh there’s a lot of different restaurants there and we found this beautiful restaurant called elmer’s in elmer’s we i ate three meals there and i think i’m just a creature of habit okay and when i find something that i like i go there a lot and they have you know it’s like a diner family owned kind of diner in the middle of the desert and um you know they just had this really salad yeah and it was just like chopped brown iceberg lettuce yeah the pink sliced black olives oh wow uh you know really crappy croutons from like a box you can taste that and uh some raw stinky red diced onion diced not even like sliced um and uh yeah and then just a side of blue cheese dressing i ate that three times that salad wow and i really enjoyed it and and i was putting it up on my my instagram and people really feeling that you know and i think like that’s the thing is like you know everyone’s here putting and i i do it all the time like i love caviar i love sea urchin i love you know it’s like the caviar and the cool guy stuff and the you know the toros and all that is like what you do kind of but not even it’s like really it’s like a really crappy like wedge salad and like a a like overcooked prime rib dinner with like overcooked baby carrots and like brown broccoli and like canned brown gravy mashed potatoes is kind of my favorite meal and i think in like a sliced like chocolate cake that’s been underneath like a dome or like a cloche or whatever you want to call it kind of smells like fridge a little bit yeah it’s like ice fridge cold cake and like a like you know um a cup of coffee you know i think that might be like some of my favorite stuff or like you know i i legit like del taco is such a beautiful thing how did you become obsessed with del taco because that’s like our thing that’s a california that is a california thing and i can explain this may not hit maybe your followers aren’t into but there was a hardcore band from orange county called 18 visions okay and in their liner notes they thanked del taco and in like 2000 and 2000 i was just i remember maybe even earlier but i remember reading liner notes and like that’s how you would find out about bands bands would have like thank lists and like you would they’d be like oh thank this band and this band and in their liner notes they thank like del taco and i was like i have to go to del taco i’m gonna go to california one day i’m gonna eat del taco and then i came like the first time i came to like la or like more so like like orange county i was like i’m going to tell and everyone’s like why do you want to go to del taco i was like i need to go and then i went and i was just like oh this is just better like taco bell but i like and every time i come every time i i go to orange county i like i had del taco i guess once this weekend but i like it you know what do you get from del taco because that’s like it was the only thing that was open late night for like you know the stoner kids you know 24 hours in orange county like that was the reason del taco existed for us you know but like what do you get there i get uh just two hard dell tacos and uh with sour cream i like sour cream so i get like lettuce tomato sour cream on them and cheese and and then it was so funny i called it a uh i called it a mucho burrito but it’s a it’s a macho machine okay it’s like a diaper yeah they’re never a tube too they’re always like a kind of like you have to you have to re-roll i always re-roll it i take it out and tighten it up i tighten it up and really make that burrito curl but yeah like i i think i’m like in the like i am that high low like i enjoy eating you know a clam shack on the side of the road in the maritimes and you know i always say like there’s always there’s there’s no such thing as like bad food you know almost like it is like there’s there is like that moment that bad meal maybe brought like a real fun memory and you would you talk about the bad meals just as much as the good meals so does that make that doesn’t make that all good meals agreed you know like i i hate the only place that i don’t eat is on planes you know like i don’t eat on planes because i find it just depressing so i don’t eat on planes i eat i’ll eat in the airport before yeah i’ll go to the panda express before and i’ll really enjoy the hell out of it but if you’re going to like dubai or something like no who’s you you bring you bring something in your pocket bring eat a handful of almonds and you’ll be grateful australia or even when i went to dubai or yeah dubai it was just i sleep the whole way or japan i can just sleep the whole world i’ll just zonk out i envy that represent that man yeah no movies i don’t watch movies on planes either do you read no you don’t do anything do i read it’s just like a girl’s breaking like a novella just like a couple of novels oh maybe like a nice i don’t know nicole you i haven’t read a book in nine years you have like your plain book i agree with i have a plain book i never like fin i’ve never finished my book no but i have a plain book i read i read audio like i read not even i listen to audio books but i i have some books that i have read on my audio phone or whatever you call your phone i watched the movie point break the 2015 remake of point break twice on the same flight wow same flight live in the dream one movie in between i like started watching the danish girl or something and i was like again tag step brothers step brother just bring it like easy movie that’s all i can do i can’t walk or like just like a marvel movie that’s the only time like i’ll watch like a big marvel movie or something like that easy watching garbage yeah just need to like make me feel nothing like that yeah all right speaking of social media and food look at these segues nicole high five oh my gosh did you write these down no not even a little it’s in your brain it’s just right there so proud of it right there okay would you say that like what you show on social media and on video is purely you especially in terms of like what you eat or just your personality or do you think that that has shifted over time um i definitely think that i’ve certainly become a caricature of myself online yeah you know like i think when i say if you watch like it’s so funny like like i never used to yell i used to never like do this thing that i like i’m known for and like what like i was like sometimes like i’ll go back and just watch like my first five videos yeah and be like how do i get back there yeah do you want to go back there i try and nobody cares like i’ve done videos i’ve done videos where i’m like i’m not gonna even like swear really a lot i’m not gonna yell i’m not going to do any like like just like crank out yeah and um yeah nobody cares which is fine um it is like a thing that you like being the thing too is like i i started this i think a little bit before most people started it sure and i think it is one of those things where i had no precursor there was nobody like really doing what i was doing or i didn’t really like watch like i still don’t watch television so it’s just like i don’t really have like i have a lot of blinders on and um and so yeah i think now i have a formula like anybody i can walk in front of a camera and do a thing no problem it doesn’t matter if it’s ketchup or if it’s like a confetti cake yeah you know like it doesn’t matte the thing what you’re cooking doesn’t matter you can go in i can go through the steps i understand how to bake i understand how to make everything i understand so you can go in and just kind of rifle through it and turn on this thing because that’s the thing is like before it was me yeah what like i understand i was just myself actually like if you go back and watch those videos it’s just me still just being funny and more like this like this is me this is me this is how i talk to my friends this is me whatever besides like not being able to swear because this is you know whatever this is listen i feel you man i don’t know what to do you know how to get into your rhythm right you can walk in front of anything and do your thing and now i’ve developed a thing where i can walk in i can shoot five videos in a day no problem because it doesn’t matter i’m a shell i’m nothingness i’ve i’ve turned you go into a few states you know it’s like it’s like a whirling dervish you have this meditative state and for me i i’m the same way when i watch my first couple of videos i’m super calm and in fact i’m not even common i’m just monotone yeah right and so then you know you find it like nicole you’re great you know you find this rhythm to where people start commenting oh my god this is so chaotic i love it oh you like when i do that yeah and then suddenly that becomes a crutch for you and then that kind of builds on this caricature yeah so you’re like positively reinforced to just become this other person but it’s great because this is the only way we know how to make money i mean you got big actual businesses yeah whoa yeah but it’s also like i think with with the at like i don’t know it’s an interesting thing like where i’m like what the who cares thing like i don’t look at uh my edits i don’t interesting i don’t look at my edits i certainly don’t watch any of my content yeah i don’t watch anybody else’s content like i see what’s on instagram i don’t go on youtube i don’t i don’t know what the hell is on youtube i don’t know who like who’s josh weissman like who who who are these like you know like i know josh i like you what a talented young man yeah he’s got the skaters he’s got the tick tock cadence down it’s great he does and i think it’s great people i i love that people can just like boom make money and have a life and buy their parents cars i think that’s tight and i think it’s like it it is it’s a beautiful thing it’s just like man because it’s all so stupid who cares like honestly like it’s like oh another guy making a stupid thing on the internet again and again and again and again and you turn into this thing where you’re like put up a video every single week and there’s like i don’t know anything how to run anything i honestly like i don’t know how to run youtube i don’t know how to think if you would have an actual conversation with me about it i’d be like what yeah i just see that like your studio is really nice and my studio is like janky and i’m just like oh cool you guys have some cards though dude this is a house all our stuff is bigger than my house of cards [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six 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order that’s butcherbox.com hotdog and use code hotdog to claim this deal [Music] with the the whole youtube thing and who i am now like i’m older too like i’m 39 and i’m like i started making videos like a while ago and i’ve had like so many already like careers it feels like and i’ve traveled the world and i’ve made so many different things and i’m just like i’m at the point now where i legitimately like don’t care yeah and and um and i just want to kind of farm and hang out with my kids and i’m like i have three kids now and i just i just want to hang with my wife and chill and like do stuff like even today i shot like a thing earlier today and um you know shout out to george moats and and and it and it’s just like i’m like i don’t even do these things like even me doing this i’m like trying i’m literally trying not to do these things i was literally wondering why you came on because i was like you don’t need this like what it’s not about needing it’s it it’s about because i never i don’t need anything true i’m at a and i’ve always been at a point where i’m like i don’t need anything like it the thing too that people i had this not argument but this person was like you really want to be famous don’t you i was like no i want to have money to do whatever i want to do i will say you have contradicted yourself on that in interviews before yeah do you know what i’m talking about which ones there’s one okay okay so i i was uh doing my research right yeah it’s incredible well not too really um but yeah that was that was the reason why on complex yeah okay i believe and and you yeah you recently got complex it was yeah yeah you did one with complex canada and you talked a lot about not wanting to be famous and just wanting to be rich but yeah yeah being famous is the only route right now right you talk about disappearing off the face of the earth which is something that i want to do if i ever got that type of money yeah i’d just build my own indoor racquetball court and just host pickleball tournaments oh yeah yeah all day but then i was reading an interview from 2015. yeah um and you were like anyone is full of crap if they don’t say they want to be famous right it was kind of taken out of context i couldn’t exactly tell but but i was curious if that has like shifted on you um yeah i don’t know i think the thing is is i guess the more famous or popular that i become the more i just want to hang out with my friends of course and the thing is like it’s and once you figure out how to get and this is going to sound insane once you kind of get into certain circles in los angeles it becomes a lot easier to do things sure and then you want to like i’ve gotten to a point where i’m like i don’t want to go to that party i don’t want to go to those yeah like i don’t want like you i’ve really realized that you don’t have to you have to be friends with everybody that’s very true and you don’t have to network and you don’t have to like the thing is is like i’m self-contained in canada i have a little studio i have my thing i have a farm i have some restaurants i have my my life is in a small little town you know and it’s not in los angeles i come out here and like do deals or whatever the hell you do out here then i go back and i go back to my little town and i think it’s um the same thing is like i don’t know because i got it so i can’t even speak on it you’re like yeah yeah who i am i get stopped everywhere i go and it’s like it’s chill it’s like whatever like even it’s it’s whatever i don’t know i sound like an ass but you don’t i think your priorities just shifted and that’s a normal thing that happens to humans you know when you i mean whenever you get married when you have kids whenever you get these milestones in your life when you become famous or whatever your priorities change and they shift and you change along with them and that’s something that i cannot wait to i’ve explored i’m willing to call him an a-hole for that no i don’t think you’re no you absolutely are i don’t know let me see let me tell you why no because i mean this is something i think about a lot right like um it really empathize with the fact that like because you’re i’m not i get recognized once a week at the pavillions occasionally people will buy me a beer at a bar to me that’s the perfect level of fame um that i never want to you’re like the perfect looking like white person though yeah i’m like i’m incredibly white yeah but actually jewish so i can pull that out whenever i want to whenever i feel like i’m not white i’m jewish um but anyways uh i’m like you know not at that level and sometimes i get you know bummed out about not being more famous just because i could have more money that’d be really cool uh but then there are other theory isn’t always fortune well true true you know that you understand that so the reason i say you’re an a-hole for sort of rebuffing that fame is that there are literally millions of people who are out there all the fans right who would like kill to have your job anytime i complain i feel like a huge a-hole because it’s like i’m living somebody’s dream even though they don’t know the turmoil that’s going inside my life and it comes with all this dumb stuff feeling like you’re living inside the freaking algorithm yeah the algorithm don’t don’t even worry about the algorithm dude it’s just like i don’t know we’re always worried about the algorithm no no see so that’s the thing you got to free yourself how do you free yourself no you don’t yeah truly like i don’t stop caring like i don’t have meat like we i i’m not i don’t i take myself out of those meetings i take myself out of all of that i don’t have meetings with like our or i don’t know what kind of a company like who we work with yeah you know you just don’t it’s not it doesn’t start i don’t i don’t i don’t i don’t i let as little in as possible and and all i want to know is like if we’re cool like that’s literally i talk to like i have a director of operations that runs all my businesses so i’m just like we cool wow where do i need where do i need where do i need to like put some attention and she’s like this this and this i’m like okay boom boom boom boom see ya and i always have like beautiful like i don’t have like like even like i don’t have like apps on my phone like i don’t have like even like my bank app i don’t have like anything on my phone so then i don’t have to worry about it and i just kind of dismiss everything so then i can just focus on like i just care about like motorcycles and that’s it but you’ve gotten to that point you know what i mean i’ve gone to but it’s still money doesn’t grow on trees and you still have to put out put things out so it’s just about trying to find i try to find a balance where my work doesn’t con even though i’m putting out so much it still doesn’t consume me that’s yeah that’s the thing is i walk it like i have it where it’s just like tell me when to show up i show up hi do my thing i leave and i go back into like my zone that’s excellent and and it’s it’s funny because i’m like i don’t yeah because if you’re thinking about everything else i’m the performer i’m the thing i’m like everyone else like brush my hair make me feel good and like but i don’t even have anybody brushing my hair you know like i don’t have i don’t have like there’s no like management with me there’s no anybody with me like it’s just like i don’t even have a manager so it’s just like those things where it’s just like i don’t know just try to be cool i wake up every day and check tick-tock to see how many new followers we have and if it’s not enough i want to rub my face through the bathroom can i ask you a question but uh i have to ask you one one really good question josh what’s that a goal uh what do you what do you eat when no one’s looking yeah what are you talking about food who cares who cares yeah let’s get back to food every dude like pretzels don’t exist oyster crackers we boil the breadsticks get the hell out of here salt wait no do you like salt or pepper wait okay one one thing i’m fascinated with okay is the fact that one the world does not need any more recipes we have too many out there there’s a lot of recipes hundreds of thousands [Applause] [Music] 18 recipes out there but no i mean ditto for the fact that like none of us need to eat any more good food right we’re on set the other day and we had a bunch of uh hokkaido sea urchin 85 wagyu yeah and we’re like eating hour and a half old a5 wagyu that i was making little what’s it called gunkan maki yeah yeah you’re like very good okay and we’re just there shoveling over a trash can shoveling the world’s best sea urchin into our freaking mountains yeah you know like we don’t need to experience any more good you’ve had it we’ve had we’ve had like where do you go from there how do you do you chase do you continue to chase the the food dragon like that no you just eat a potato you accept you accept the fact that you have had this beautiful meal and you’ve had these incredible ingredients in front of you and then you go eat some craft mac and cheese that’s balance of life nicole what did i eat for lunch today tell the people he takes cold turkey deli like jelly turkey puts it on a plate like carpaccio yeah hard fry i mean like what medium fries two eggs opens the eggs up makes a yolk splatter all over and then what did you put on it uh yeah no that’d be uh sweet and sour or famous dave’s pickles oh yeah pickles french is yellow mustard yeah yeah it was a beautiful plate of food but it was also how did i eat it dripping over a trash can yeah uh and to me that’s 85 to 95 percent of meals yeah it’s if you’re not eating over a garbage can or a sink you’re not really eating getting over a garbage can my preferred method as of late i eat over the sink a lot at home the fish sauce yeah just a sandwich or like anything just eat it over the sink everybody else is sitting at the table behind you like eating and then you’re just over the sink i’m curious about maddie you’re you’re like relationship to food right now you’re super into farming you’ve made a fair amount of videos on the farm i mean like 20 years from now are you just gonna be like just vegan just eating butternut squash oh really it would be probably smart we’re on the wrong side of history yeah um i think the farm has definitely changed the way i think about things in a cliche way you know like you’re just like there’s a lot of work that goes into that and i think just working with keenan at blue goose has just been like it’s just been like a beautiful experience and like growing the vegetables and eating the vegetables and just like all of a sudden we’re just like let’s just steam everything you know i just want to steam everything and just a little bit of salt and like it’s good like a turnip is perfect being a turnip yeah you know eating a carrot that tastes like a carrot and you’re like whoa is this how carrots actually taste is this there’s no butter basting there’s no yeah no just steam it yeah like it’s just like let it stand you know not mayonnaise and like everything else and it’s just like i think having like restraint has has it’s really matured me and i’m getting ready to like open up like a fancy or not a fancier restaurant just more of a restaurant i think that um supports farmers truly and it’s where there’s like no compromise you know we want to serve the best stuff and i think that the vegetable like doing blue goose like in 20 years like i don’t know in 20 years i’m gonna be freaking 60 you know i’m just like hopefully i’m like on an island in the sand just milking my bones you know and just like chilling or maybe not maybe he’s still doing what i’m doing but i don’t know it definitely has like i think 29 year old maddie versus 39 year old maddie like 29 year old maddie would definitely punch me out really yeah well because there’s just any aging punk though right yeah like i was like at 29 i was like at the height of my insanity and like no internet yet and like no like i was just like chef chef guy really drunk lots of stuff and uh like really didn’t care like i don’t care now but i care a little bit because i got kids and stuff and i can see you know a little bit of a plan but like 29 year old maddie definitely like the 10 year 10-year challenge thing i’d be like you’re a punk like i’d just be like you’re a poser get away from me you know but do you like current current version of you i’m the best yeah i’m the best i’m the best i’m the best you know i really rewrote food history i think there’s a but there’s definitely a before and after maddie matheson stars than any chef ah i got all he tried to book gordon ramsay and he wouldn’t come so we got you and so i’m just there he’s gonna have his bio up we got his house you can still hear it going bob that’s what landscape yeah you take you take the lamb chops shove it on their ears like earmuffs and you’re like you what do they call it don he calls everyone donuts donuts yeah don’t donkey doughnut yeah not nice not nice but he’s perfect so we’re good you know yeah we love him and like you know he just started a new studio so they’re giving out shows to like say like young plucky internet talent wow yeah i’ve said a lot of i want to show you i’ve said a lot of bad things about him but not me other than i still think gordo is probably the best chef out of anybody like actually yeah but uh you know who knows i’m sure you invented mexican food though you know yeah bobby bobby the [Music] cheater all right nicole and maddie we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse nicole they’re freaking wacky it’s time for a second we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] that’s our song i like that yeah right i think it’s really good as a singer i think it’s really well done all right first up we got at fake jake brown i feel like i should tell you guys who jake brown is he and i tried to throw the world’s first jagermeister and clam chowder festival and we were all like ready to we had it up we had a mascot that had it was a giant clam mascot but he had two super soakers underneath sleeves in his arms that shot out one shot out clam juice one shot out yeager nice and jaeger was initially on board and it was to benefit the trans youth of denver there you go um yeah yeah and jaeger was initially on board and then when the press started rolling in and people said this sounds like an absolute vomit fest which we’re like we had a lot of ticket pre-sales too then jaeger pulled out so that’s who jake brown is also a professional magic the gathering player so that’s hi jake thanks for putting in your opinion jam chunks straight out the jar usually strawberry pretty late at night matty how you feel about just the jam chunks no what not a jam chunks i like the syrups i push around the jam chunks not a jam chunky kind of guy you’re not a preserves man i’m a cruiser’s guy but i’m not i don’t like a chunk chaser i’m not a chunk chaser yeah when i when i and maybe that goes back to being a kid but i would like when i would make my strawberry and butter toasts i would definitely push i didn’t want the chunks i just wanted the syrups i’m in it for the chunks i like the chunks yeah a little candied strawberry action in there yeah yeah yeah and like i like a chunky preserve i wish i could get only the chunks smuckers only chunks yeah i just want the syrups see we’re perfect for you you should just share jam jars more often we should share jam drugs we should get into a jam jarring service sub stack yeah uh ghost kitchen go anywhere she goes chicken block chain except the ghost kitchen nicole just makes jam jars but then they they they sell those at grocery stores but it’s just but it’s a ghost kitchen it’s like it’s crunchier you should be able to get smooth or chunky like it’s like peanut butter you can just get jam or jelly or preserves from the store everybody if there’s trunks is it just jelly jelly is is no chunks right strained juice with gelatins with pectins jam jam is whole fruit what’s the difference between jelly and jam okay ghost of gold bloom says food that i threw out in a container but then a few hours later decided i actually wanted to finish eating this is what someone eats when no one’s looking how do you feel about that i back at 100 you know the amount of times that i’ve put something in the garbage and i’m more of like throw through like half an onion or like like some roots of cilantro or something and then i’m like yesterday i threw out some cilantro and i don’t have any left i’ll go in there i’ll go in there give it a rinse um you know it’s just for me and my family who cares about them yeah like they deserve that it’s not like you’re serving a paying stranger yeah like i think i’ve definitely dived definitely dumpster dived and i’ve dumpster dived so it’s just like you know i’ve definitely eaten food out of dumpsters so you know i’m all for it i would love to do a dumpster diving episode yeah that’d be good i would love to just don’t watch shopkins donut shops donut shops i just want to go dumpster diving with you guys is that weird i’m telling you with you thanks maggie can you come fine i wish you wouldn’t judge me so much when i eat out of the trash at work though that’s what she does she eats over it you know when i get into it tell him what i do tell him what i do okay so if i throw food away that she thinks i’m gonna pick out the trash later she she puts cleaning solution on it or she spits on it but sometimes the spit doesn’t deter me not in like a weird way that’s like drake in the hot sauce yeah you know so she’ll hit it with the 409 and then there’s a there’s here’s the thing there’s a bittering agent in the 409 nicole so it makes it taste bad because i wouldn’t i wouldn’t care if it was just a little bit of bleach if only that’s fine you can handle that that’s like going in a jacuzzi every once in a while yeah you can lick it up i think that’s bs all right we got alibi 918. when i had pet rats i’d eat their treats they’re called honey yogurt drops tbh could have been candy but my sister ridiculed me for eating rat treats when i tried to defend it she went slack john so i threw a treat in she refused to chew her loss maddie i feel like force feeding your sister rat treats i don’t i think that’s a no-go for me that’s a no-go zone and you know i’m not like a you know i just feel there’s a lot of options out there it’s like those people on the tv shows that like just eat like clay or like yeah like people that are i think that’s just like a different demographic that i’m like okay like that’s i’m not mad at you sure just there’s no such thing as like dog food or rat treats right there’s no such thing it’s all just ingredients that are cobbled together you know you’re just a sucker for the branding you think it just says full rats means it’s only for rats no no if you see the ingredients and it’s just like glucose and yogurt and honey whatever that’s that’s fair game just branding it’s just branding at that point in fact you’re overpaying because they’re rat treats because they’re smaller because i get a house like a whole bag of rat sheets like the raisins you know and so at this point you’re just buying overpriced raisin nets but that said you should still be able to use it so smart even if there’s additional supplements now we’re back in now i’m back in even as additional rat supplements it’s just serious it’s really just cereal yeah i don’t want to go dumpster diving with you guys anymore stop being ignorant um shango supra says when i’m feeling down i eat a full 20 ounce tray of store-bought mac and cheese baked in the oven and usually top with french’s fried onions it has to be french’s and i have to be alone wow this is like a sadness casserole it’s just a sadness casserole yeah i’m sad i eat alone a lot traveling yeah and uh you know i try not to make it as sad as possible mmm lean in lean i did i used to have a phobia of eating by myself so one time after i went to a doctor’s appointment i went to the farmer’s market and i sat at a big table by myself eating brazilian barbecue and i finally got over my fear claim your space and i’m so happy i did that you are what you because you spread all over that farmer’s market nicole so now i can eat alone without any sort of fear anxiety i face my problems head-on there you go that’s what we gotta do i cut the mac and cheese out of this equation and just eat the french’s fried onions from a jar i’m not gonna lie i still got them left over from thanksgiving and i just you know every time i’m feeling sad i’ll just go grab a pinch of just the msg crispy what is it it’s just like fried onions it’s like fake fried onions okay you know like frizzled shallots that you make yeah it’s like that but like the mass market version of okay you know uh and they’re delicious they’re just a delight i love that all right we got atomic care bear condiment rice an old college staple consists of rice mixed with whatever condiments you have in your dorm room favorite combos soy sauce louisiana hot sauce butter and a sprinkle of cheese salty tangy butter you’ll keep you fed till next payday nothing wrong with that i feel like that’s the thing like i used to go and buy in college in my like in my first year when i lived in a dorm i had like a little bar fridge in my room and i used to go buy like 30 taco bell soft taco supremes and just like put in my thing and then i just like take like two out like little snack themes and like put them in the microwave so i i you know like whatever you got to do the rice with a little sprinkle of this cheese with the soy sauce condiments i think it’s fine you know if you got some barbecue sauce rice is great i used to have a roommate that would just eat like he would cover he would do like steamed rice and then just cover it in ketchup and just like jam it’s a filipino thing a lot of people do is it filipino no no no no no he uses uh caucus a lot of people do that like just put condiments on rice i feel like that’s a thing that yeah people do i have no issue with it i’m going to i i used to get 20 they they sold mcdonald’s hamburgers for 29 cents every sunday and my dad it was limit 10. so my dad would go in with three dollars and he’d order 10. he’d send me in for me to order 10 and send my brother in so he’d end up with just a sack of 30 cheeseburgers wow and then we just keep them in the freezer and then yeah snacks whenever you want but it got to the point where like every 45 minutes i was eating mcdonald’s hamburger yeah because you know they’re just there and you’re alone uh so yeah i feel that and i i love that so i there’s no shame in my game i love that nerd’s pitch says a spoonful of sweetened condensed milk what just so this is what they eat no one’s like yeah just when you’re bumming just slam slam some sugar milk milk yeah yeah yeah i think i i don’t know like i think i’m just thinking of like you know if you already eat like a sticky toffee pudding like you’re eating like pretty much dulce de leche like a huge spoonful condensed milk i i think i could do it i do this with nutella yeah i don’t care no there’s no caring yeah nutella is great it all makes sense just some salt it smells like something i would do my favorite thing isn’t the spoonful though it’s when you take the lid off of the condensed milk and then you lick the lid that’s dangerous though bad microwave mini cocktail frankfurts until they split then smother them in tomato sauce i don’t know if it’s like tomato sauce or if it’s tomato sauce you know what i mean this is two different things i don’t like it you know i don’t like it either way i i i i’m down for a microwave dog but the tomato sauce i like dogs only dogs you know like ketchup or mustard i don’t care either like chicago can chill out and then like you know i i love a microwave what i do is i take the hot dogs and put a little bowl of just a little bit of water and then just put that in the microwave and they come out perfect every time steaming yeah but the tomato you don’t want to put cover on between no well if they’re australian if this is tomato sauce and that’s ketchup for them yeah so that’s what i’m thinking because agreed with the modern that don’t work no no marinara i just don’t like cocktail weenies i was never raised in a cocktail weenie house they taste different so every time i see them i’m just like just give me a regular hot dog you know what i mean doesn’t do it for me okay how do i say this name josh her to be is liz her to bees liz says my deep culinary shame is a blob of straight up mayonnaise on top of a hot casserole to quote unquote cool it down because i don’t have my life together enough to have sour cream on hand i’m sorry yes let’s go i feel good that’s fine you’re okay if you don’t have your life together enough to get the sour cream on deck on the fridge door then you’re okay it’s okay you got the helmets you got little spruce goose on the mayo you’re fine you’re you’re making a casserole you got your life together enough to make a casserole so then like you know cup’s half full i feel that also what an optimistic man are now and you know like mostly it’s like really disgusting in a way like most food is good man i said that earlier i agree with that right like part of the day most food good no no because we’re like evolutionarily designed to just want to put things in our mouths and like turn into energy you know so like most things you put inside you’re going to be great you have a good time but also it’s all really gross because you turn it into poop you know and you’re eating with your hands slopping over but that doesn’t have to do with what you’re ingesting that’s just a natural part of your body yeah these are all arbitrary rules we made up like don’t put mayonnaise on casseroles that’s a dumb arbitrary rule meant to control us yeah don’t know let them control you eat the rat food and put mayonnaise wherever you want thank you it’s between you and god i’m a chaos sandwich right now and i need to help oh don’t you dare leave that booth don’t you dare leave that down everyone is safe the chaos sandwich keeps you free oh my gosh you know there’s like that three foot square in america where there’s no laws oh brick city brick city there’s like a county no yeah in california oh yeah yeah this is black city slab city slab city that’s what it is this is that but for food no rules no rooms no just love just love god don’t go the outback all right yeah at the names use what i get pillsbury vanilla marshmallow frosting i chase each spoon with the gherkin see that’s a bit foolish that’s just that’s just nasty yeah yeah that’s you guys pickles i don’t think you need to do that there’s so many good things that you could do and it’s just like that is just not the thing and i understand sweet and salty and sweet and vinegary but i’m just like i think that’s just a bit much i think so too contrasting textures in mouth one because the the frosting’s so fatty right all those hydrolyzed oils in there and then you’re getting the pickle the pickle juice it’s going to start wicking off that face welcome to the pot because it’s gonna it’s gonna coat it’s gonna coat your tongue in a sort of like fatty you know i get it remembering but you know what they’re doing this is like they’re just washing away the fat with the gherkin it’s like a sorbetto in between it’s like a pickleback i get it i understand it i don’t like it because i feel like i need a tums how many combos you think they tried before they settle on this one being the best though gotta be one and done you think they were like six no no they did this in the further like eh yeah i knew what they were doing yeah like literally a charcuterie board but they were just picking out random things in the fridge yeah kimchi and cream cheese frosting and vanilla oh hey now it’s a bit much um game girl 9292 says the fat that is left in the bottom of a tray when i’ve made pork chops i’m aware of how gross that is but i still do it what you know like yeah are they talking about the albumin or the fat like the white stuff that leaks out yeah yeah i think they’re talking about eating that no no no they’re saying the [ __ ] just the fat that drips yeah have you guys ever like gotten a piece of bread and like done that before yeah you dip up everything you dip everything yeah like in like the like that’s the stuff yeah yeah the font the font yeah yeah sexy font sandwich sexy font somewhere dip it up scrape it up scrape it like a wrap i’m the one that eat the raspberries i eat the ratchet you get the rat tree i’m the one that eats it uh yeah you’re fine all right hold up hold up i got we got one more we got one more we got king and ak honestly when i’m too lazy to make a sandwich i just get out all the components of the sandwich and simultaneously shove them all in my mouth lettuce tomato bread protein ketchup you name it and then chew my deconstructed art piece i don’t know i don’t know how if i do that you confuse me you confuse me it’s a salad it’s a salad well it’s a mouth sandwich it’s a mouth sandwich it’s like you put the bread like you suck on the bread and then you put all the condiments in it yeah you kind of put on your tongue yeah and you build it yeah it’s a buffet yeah it’s a it’s ridiculous there’s a world in which if you eat say like a chicken caesar salad with croutons right you’re right there’s a point at which if you eat the perfect bite and tumble it around yeah if it’s like if you put a monkey at a typewriter it’ll eventually write out the works of shakespeare yes yes there’s a point at which it becomes the mouth sandwich the caesar salad a crouton will end up on bottom and top at some point as you’re mushing around and then the chicken with the lettuce in between so what are we the hell are we talking about i think i’ve blacked out for the last hour and a half i don’t know i haven’t even heard her sweating and it’s great oh she’s a little sweaty some underboob sweat going on all right and on that note thank you so much for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles they can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or at zade with the opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen maddie thanks so much for joining yeah thank you thanks for having me do you want to plug anything tell people like buy your pot your pan um i hate plugging stuff actually but 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