ramble [Music] sigmund freud may have died 23 years before the first taco bell opened but i feel like you would have had a lot to say about people who order quesaritos if you know what i’m saying they’re phallic folks this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs this sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh shearer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and nicole today we are discussing what does your taco bell order say about you now let’s list the most bestest phallic items at taco bell first up uh the the cheesy roll up the cheesy roll the cheesy roll i think if there’s cheese in your roll up you got to go to a doctor hey oh sorry i’m sorry oh my god a fun day you and i are both coming back from vacation you can’t see us because there’s no video but we are both like three shades more orange yes i am very tan right now and i’m enjoying it very much also it’s hilarious because we do so many things together at work that we have to take vacations at the same time like not actually but it really worked out it’s i’m really glad that we did that though oh i am too oh we have stories now we have so many stories oh my god uh i did not eat in any taco bells in mexico and i kind of regret it i wish i had a taco bell experience at costa rica there was only one that i saw and it was next to the airport and i’m like damn it well we each get 40 seconds to talk about the best thing we ate on vacation what’s the best thing you ate in costa rica the best thing i ate in costa rica was something called arachera which is um i don’t believe it’s from costa rica i think it’s from venezuela and it was at this resort that i stayed at and it was incredible and i also had really really really really good ceviche i don’t know she had a skirt steak right skirt steak and this beautiful tomato smoky sauce with these onions and it was just mind-boggling delicious and then i had a lot of ceviche but i had really really good ceviche at a place called don rufino’s in arnold oh that’s really good i believe that you’re ready for me to mansplain something about archera go ahead yeah i leave a regional name for arachera or like skirt steak or it’s a cut similar is fajitas in northern mexico and that’s how the term fajitas came to be no way crazy crazy crazy i had i had the best taco of my life it was a soft shell crab taco at uh manta by chef enrique ulvera at the cape hotel in cabo which is also where i proposed marriage to julia congratulations now i’m betrothed mazel tov thank you so excited for you don’t even know great segue back i brought julia to taco bell for the first time ever and she was very confused uh this is like several months ago she grew up in a town where they didn’t allow fast food restaurants oh yeah that’s how beverly hills was yeah yeah yeah i guess the nice town we don’t want this garbage here yeah yeah i get it and that was the opposite where i grew up around like eight taco bells my life was triangulated by taco bells and that’s the way i want to live nice nice um but this is a great segue because i had to introduce her to taco bell for the first time using her taste to try and psychoanalyze her and figure out what she would want okay nice and so i just was it simple quesadilla or not it was a chicken quesadilla nice because i think that shows taco bell strengths because i know julia loves quesadillas it was a big way that we bonded we would like go out drinking and i would come home and make her a delightful shrimp quesadilla or something and she loves mayonnaise sauces taco bell has a good mayonnaise sauce in their quesadilla and she didn’t like it but that was only because like sometimes you get it why do you you put does she like like chicken she does she does like i think she would like a good taco she could eat it okay okay but the problem was we went to one of the taco bells where you know it’s like it’s not the a team that they send to conventions oh what time did you go uh it was like 3 p.m on a sunday it was during the thick of covid too oh drive through you know one of those quesadillas you get and like the sauce is kind of smeared on the inside yeah yeah yeah yeah it wasn’t it wasn’t really folded cheese wasn’t really melted oh but but but that said i think there’s a lot we can glean from somebody’s personality based on their taco bell order i think that’s a i think that’s brilliant i agree a million percent do you want to know what i’m all about in my talk about what i sure do let me lie down on the couch and i’m going to psychoanalyze it maggie where’s the couch couch why do we not have a couch i want to record this podcast are we what am i doing okay so this is my goat i wrote it down because there’s honestly like a lot that i have to like get out in this question okay so mike i already just know you’re needy just from that go ahead so my go-to order always always always has been a cheesy gordita crunch and a chicken quesadilla without fail those are the two things i always get but if i’m really starving i add a soft potato taco add creamy jalapeno sauce to it or i add a beefy five layer burrito grilled now now now wait you order the beefy five-layer grilled yeah oh that’s smart oh thank you oh my god thank you okay wait run that back one more time okay from the beginning from the beginning okay my fail safe order always is cheesy gordita crunch with a chicken quesadilla those are my two always orders and then if i’m very very hungry i will add a soft potato taco add creamy jalapeno sauce or if i’m really really really hungry i get a beefy five-layer burrito grilled okay okay so the cheesy gordita crunch yeah that was actually a menu item it was introduced as like a special menu item what they do is they take the gordita which is it’s a shell it’s like pita bread though right yeah it’s like a leavened soft pita bread they add their three cheese blend and they wrap that around a crunchy taco and then there’s beef their little delicious delightful tex-mex ragu beef slice and then uh god is it it used to be a different sauce but i think now it’s spicy ranch maybe i don’t know what the sauce is this one it’s a creamy white sauce and it’s delicious lettuce and cheese and that’s it that got taken off the official menu and was only a secret menu item for like years no way and i feel like you still ordered it when it was off the menu maybe can i tell you something i don’t order taco bell that much but when i do i go ham you know what i mean it’s like an experience i get like 18 sauces i get too many napkins i get two cups of water because i don’t like soda with my taco bell what yeah i don’t like soda with my taco bell but they’d like just introduce diet baja blast it mutes the flavors it really doesn’t do it for me but yeah i have more oh my god keep going my um my preferences depending on my mood i can also get the derivative yeah i know i wrote this down because i really want listen taco bell is important to me but i don’t enjoy it as much as i should i feel like i missed out by not enjoying it as much so i tried to do my research to the best of my abilities and because i was out of the country i couldn’t really do any like testing i really wanted to do like some beta testing and like use a company card and like go but it’s just a smart business but i didn’t so i really tried to like deep dive deep into like what i like and what i don’t like so since we know my basic order and like if i’m really hungry but depending on my mood i can also get a doritos locos taco supreme sub the beans for meat i mean sub the meat for beans yeah you just prefer the beans in the taco too the meat with in this case with the doritos locos taco yes i do okay i do and then i have um what did i write oh the beefy melt burrito do you know that one i love the beefy melon burrito with the little like nub milk burrito does that have the rice in it i don’t know if it has rice in it but it has the little squigglies the little crispy oh the crispy red the crispy red strips is what they officially call it yeah yeah which kind of soaks it up like chilaquiles do you like the the have you read the fritos one yes okay i like this one more than the fritos one interesting i like the fritos i think fritos work well as an addition to a taco bell menu item because they’re so sturdy and filled with toasted corn flavor that’s that’s a good point um but i don’t think they’ve had that on the menu you know for a while yeah i haven’t had it in a long time but i remember having it but i prefer the red crispy strips but those are two things that i have to eat immediately like in the car like those are two things i have to eat immediately or else it’s a no-go it needs to be enjoyed in the car no such i can’t drive home and eat it no i fully believe that there there has to be an order to which you eat your taco bell agreed right yes because you have to go things that will retain the most heat yes or sorry the things that retain the most heat last or things that are going to get soggy eventually if you let doritos locos tacos sit for more than five minutes it sticks to the the little shell nothing in there it’s not fun it’ll pry off yeah it’s not fun what your whole taco bell uber nicole says to me is that ubra does that is that like a song is like an opera i think like you’re kind of i didn’t use the term properly sometimes i just say things that don’t actually make sense and uber is like i think your uber is like your total body of work oh okay got it yeah okay i think you’re talking about i’m just gonna say it at this point one cheesy word data crunch shows that you are somewhat in the know right you’re specific and in the know it’s important to you to be able to be like on that trend and even when it was gone from the official menu boards you still ordered it you kept trucking now it’s now it’s back there so you’re in the know and then what was the second chicken quesadilla chicken quesadillas that means you like to hedge your bets i just no i just like oh no no i am the psychologist i am the therapist oh you think you know yourself better than me wait till i’m the psychologist you’re gonna love it okay to me that shows that you like to hedge your bets right okay you get some of the more exotic menu items right you’re adding the creamy jalapeno sauce to the potato soft tacos or off the beaten path items that cheese would be crunchy it wasn’t even on the menu for years okay chicken quesadilla it’s been around for forever you know you know that even if one of the things that you tried to order might disappoint even if the crunchy red strips are soft you still have that rock to go back to so true i know yes gemini right yes yeah so i mean that totally makes sense you’re bringing both energies and then and then the soft potato taco that means you’re not afraid of criticism right you know what this actually let me tell you it’s like deeply rooted in like growing up as a jewish kid in beverly hills and uh oh because no no beef and cheese yeah interesting that was like my like uh explain your religious traumas to nicole that’s it you you just suck you have to make the after taco bell that’s a good one i’m gonna say that to my rabbi later um no it’s um no it’s like you could never get the meat there so you’d always get either potatoes or beans that makes sense the the no beef sub beans my best friend deep knight shout out to best friend deep uh he didn’t grow up eating meat and so he would always do no beef sub beans and i started doing that in solidarity and it like does not change much i know that’s the crazy thing the texture’s almost exactly you don’t have to chew their beef it’s the same i have one question black beans or refried beans for taco bell refried beans exclusively me too the black beans are a newfangled item they only brought that in there was a period where chipotle is where taco bell was trying to kind of compete with chipotle yeah didn’t they have like this fiesta menu or something where they had a lady like i lost 50 pounds eating taco bells well no they had um chef uh like there was the cantina menu was preceded by a special different menu it might have been called the fiesta menu but it was with a celebrity chef lorena garcia i remember yeah yeah yeah and they like had this female mexican celebrity chef being like eat our new power bowl whatever yeah and they had black beans and corn in it which to me was a direct shot at chipotle for sure and that didn’t really work out but they kept the black beans on the menu but to me though like the flavor profile it’s the powdered beans that are rehydrated in water i love them they’re delicious no one loves soupy beans more than me yeah in like the mouthfeel beans in the crunch app supreme to me it’s such it’s maybe a more pleasing mouthfeel than the beef is this a segway into your order well i don’t know i don’t know well then let’s stick to it then you got you got the beefy five-layer burrito grilled yes i like the grill you’re not afraid to indulge you are not only you’re not afraid to indulge you’re somebody who indulgence is very important yes very hedonistic sometimes yes you just got back from a week in costa rica just slamming lobster 10 days for 10 days so jealous dude i ate so much buffet shrimp for breakfast yeah i had a lot of good food also a lot of bad food no same here same fans yeah yeah they uh do not go to the sushi restaurant at an all you can eat resort in cabo oh yeah nothing against mexican sushi it’s generally i haven’t had great sushi fantastic juice jealous very good sushi in costa rica and the fact that you get that beefy flavour grilled nicole that means that you’re not afraid to ask for what you want so on the one hand you know what you want you’re in the know you’ve studied it you have it backed up with research right uh-huh two you’re not afraid to go for what you want you’re not afraid what people will think if you do go for what you want but then three you also like to hedge your bets because even if you go for your want you shoot for the stars you need to have a backup plan you need to know that chicken quesadilla is going to be there for you and just be like a delightful starchy cheesy meaty meal great um what if like this is one of those situations where you say this to everybody no i don’t think so is this curated for me megan what’s your favorite talk about letter no megan we’ll we’ll we’ll tell him okay it’s uh two beef chalupa supremes one beef crunchy taco and you eat chalupa crunchy taco chalupa two beef chalupa supremes and a crunchy taco you eat it chalupa taco chalupa yeah that means that maggie’s stuck in 2002. maggie you gotta come on no no no no no no no no no no no no hold on no no no i want you to be better maybe because that was my order in fifth grade when i used to spend that i’m dead serious it’s a combo on the menu it’s too cheap almost a number six according to maggie she told me this oh right yeah yeah yeah no soda honey he’s afraid to indulge and she loves uh uh avril lavigne correct yeah see no no it’s a different psycho analysis also though the chalupas hit though you eat a chalupa supreme for the first time and not having one for a while yeah i like chalupas i just don’t like the chicken chalupa no not a chicken chalupa girl and you say beef taco bell’s chicken so i worked for this catering company in college that like shared a commissary kitchen with a taco bell because it’s all run through ucla not talk about corporate oh yeah and so we would make like buffalo chicken sandwiches at this catering company but for whatever reason we would use the giant sacks of taco bell chicken oh which just came like frozen cut into strips grill marked pre-cooked and there’s such a unique like citric acid burnt flavor to it you know and so for me like there’s something about taco bell’s grilled chicken that like i can’t stomach after working that catering kitchen yeah eating i mean i would eat like a pound of this when it was left over uh we weren’t supposed to take leftovers but i would just you know put it [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcher box the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental u.s and 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there are some things that will remain the same to me the crunch app supreme is the greatest menu item to ever come out of taco bell and then number two is the cheesy gordita crunch okay so i will go cheesy gordita crunch sub fiery doritos locos tacos they recently took them off the menu um but now god they have the cool ranch flavor do you like that one i i like the cool ranch doritos i haven’t had the um oh the cool ranch flamin hot doritos i really love i haven’t had it in the taco bell i’ve had it is it good it’s high it’s not as good as the fiery yeah yeah but i like that flavor punch if i have the ability to upgrade from a normal crunchy taco shell to anything dusted in chip powder yeah i will do that and then i also add tomatoes to it oh cool you don’t add you don’t supreme it you just add the tomatoes well it’s because it’s already halfway to supreme because you got the creamy sauce on it sure supreme is just sour cream and tomatoes yes correct uh and so it’s already halfway there who judged that who was like okay supreme equals these two things yeah who was that oh uh glenn bell i don’t know i don’t even know when supreme came under the taco bell menu item it’s just so whack like those are the two things that make something supreme what about some cilantro i don’t does taco bell have i think cilantro only exists in one place at taco bell and that’s in their little cup of like salsa oh yeah that’s like if you took a jar of paste picante sauce and drained it and then popped it in a little condiment cup and so i’ll get that cheesy gordita crunch with the sub of doritos logos okay and then i always get a crunchwrap supreme and there’s a couple variations sometimes i’ll do no beef sub beans okay sometimes i’ll add uh pickled jalapenos sometimes i’ll go beef add potato add jalapeno sauce oh oh okay but i like to just make that like to me that is that’s the meat right that’s the main course and then everything else is ephemera okay do you believe in getting into a dessert or is your baja blaster dessert uh no okay so when they had the caramel apple empanada that to me was the greatest fast food pie not from jollibee because jollibee’s pies are really great shout out to the mango peach really good uh but no i i will get cinnamon twists like maybe like once every five times but i’d rather just have more savory i hate cinnamon you hate cinnamon sweet they’re good yeah i love it dude no way give me the package i like the cinnabon delights uh oh the cinnamon deli they’re just a little heavy to end the meal it’s not light and bright snack to end the meal uh but then my other thing at taco bell is i am beholden to getting whatever new menu item they have you’re that kind of guy because i think a lot of people they have a lot of people look to fast food for consistency right sure that’s what i do yeah that like nostalgia that consistency they want the same thing every time they go and for me i look to fast food for innovation okay come up when i took julia there for the first time and got her that chicken quesadilla they also had the the human centipede chalupa oh of course i do the one the three that are attached to each other three mini chalupas that are like lightly attached to the hinge you’ve never had it and you’re supposed to like tear and share this triple it was called the triple looper uh and it was just a three chalupas human centipede oh my god oh maggie typed in human centipede chalupa oh god there’s some upsetting illustrations but it’s true how was this not censored on a working laptop but it was like a monkey bread chalupa um and it was not good it does not look good much rather have i mean when the quesalupa came out that was something that i had to try anytime the naked chicken taco did you like that i love that actually if that was on the menu i’d get the naked chicken taco every single time what about the uh what was their answer to like the popeye’s chicken sandwich that little folding oh yeah it was called the chicken sandwich taco which uh i thought was a perfectly fine attempt you like didn’t think it had it there was never a reason for me to order it right and so those are my core menu items right i get i get the two that i know i’m gonna love very occasionally if i’m if i want comfort i’ll get like a steak quesadilla you like the the steak there i do i do not like i do like the steak they they made a change from grilled steak to like a weird braised steak and it was a little bit more easy to chew and that made me love it okay but typically i stick with beef because i think the beef is the single best tasting thing that’s hot it is really delicious it’s really delicious it’s probably not good in large increments yeah but i don’t care no i mean yeah and then uh double decker taco used to be a main steak i almost think actually no here’s the thing before the um before the cheesy gradita crunch uh came back to the menu i switched to double decker taco supreme with the doritos locos in it and to me that was a better item than the uh cheese guardian like the textures made more sense yeah there was like a less there was a uh less obtrusive outer layer because you got the flour tortilla instead of the gordita shell which is like thicker and so you got that it’s just you know held everything together the the beans instead of the cheese in between the layers give you that nice mouth feel the little bit of crunch on that crunchy taco shell that little pop of acid from the doritos and then just a rush of liquid soupy beef and sour cream and a half packet of fire sauce and everybody god dang em all worked up oh yeah what’s your favorite sauce are you hot diablo what are you what are you doing it’s always fire it’s okay it’s fire fire has the perfect balance of tomato paste corn syrup and pure capsaicin good and i absolutely love it it’s ridiculous remember when we got the bottles yeah we got the bottles i still have a bottle at my home that it does not taste right on homemade food i know and then good hot sauce doesn’t taste right on taco bell that’s so true that’s why i like to eat it in my car i agree because i got everything there you know what i mean if i go home i’m going to want to put some tapatios some weird habanero stuff on it and it’s just going to ruin every everything you need is within yourself and also your your car i always like the day after i’m like oh is that a piece of lettuce is that is that a lonely string of cheese what are you doing there and then i got a the biggest diet baja blast they have because healthy and i think that’s appropriate what do you think it says about me what do i think it says about you i think um you’re a man that knows what he i’m gonna be very simple in my psychoanalysis because i don’t like how the the what is it called the emotional wherewithal to do that for you but i think um you know what you want and you’re gonna do whatever you want to go get it and if you don’t like something you will change the course of everyone else’s actions around you to make it happen interesting yes so you think you think that if i am seeking change i don’t seek it necessarily within myself but i seek it from others yes and so i will try and manipulate them to make me feel a different way about myself yeah intro what do you think it says about me does that make me a monster i feel like it makes me a monster i know because i think you have um a lot of people’s best interests in mind especially the people that are working i talk about yeah yeah i mean you’re not trying to make life hard for them you’re just saying these are my preferences and this is what i want and you’re going to make it happen because it’s within your limitations correct you’re saying of course you’re saying there’s like a case for uh positive narcissism yeah yeah like a narcissist with a heart of gold yeah who just wants the appropriate sauce on the appropriate item do you ever oh here’s another question before i really dive in do you ever um send your order back at taco bell whatever they i have never not and i think that is that is a social contract that you make when you order fast food is that you are not sending anything back never ever i will i used to even be more skittish about ordering complicated things but now that taco bell has the app and you just like click click click i i feel fully comfortable doing that i even once like apologized to a taco bell um restaurant manager when i had to order something really specific for the show and he was like dude we don’t care it’s just tomatoes come up in the thing we splash some tomatoes in there like it’s yeah i just want you to have the food that you want yeah and so i’ll do that but with the caveat that if anything is screwed up that’s your fault for making it difficult and you just eat it and also it’s gonna taste mostly the same so like yeah the one thing about taco bell is like if you blindfolded me i would probably think everything tastes almost exactly the same yeah and that’s a good thing well so do you think that that illusion of control is important to you though right with the app like you wouldn’t know if they put on an app i just go to the drive-through they’re saying all this in person of course oh my god you monster what are you oh you look people in the face and you go i want you to grill my burrito of course josh human beings are you kidding me with the way that technology is going people need to know crave interaction yeah of course i do why do you think i work here why do you think i like coming into work monday through friday instead of sitting at home honestly i lose my mind i agree i would eat so much more taco bell if i was at home i just haven’t delivered to my house no i don’t use the app i i speak to humans and um they’re great and everyone who’s worked at taco bell has been nothing but kind they’re actually very friendly i’ll talk about oh yeah that’s actually the one incredibly friendly that we go to around here yeah yeah we had a great talk about i feel very blessed to have that yeah um have you ever been to a taco bell and then you’re like oh my god is it a drive-through and then it’s not and then you just want to cry oh i i never i never uh use a drive-through no i never drive through fast food that’s the thing about me is i never drive through i always eat inside yeah yeah because that way i can get i can refill my already 42 ounce uh diet mountain dew that i fill to the top of the cup nickel i fill the cup to the top with ice so it’s extra cold so you and i get three refills you sit on a taco bell and eat out of taco bell yes and i will say that i am the only person to do that in the year of our lord 2022 because i have not been in a taco bell with another person that wasn’t part of my party which is to say julia and my grandmother are the last two people i took to taco bell julie was on like a road trip up to wine country and i stopped at taco bell oh my god off of the lost virgin islands yeah there’s a great taco bell uh off there it’s very funny yeah then my grandma and there was nobody eating in there and my grandma was just like why the hell isn’t anybody here and i was like granny uh things changed taco bell yeah granny it’s taco bell ain’t as bumping as it was in 1984. i know good times all right so what items do you think you would have like the most strong psychological reaction to if somebody ordered like what’s what’s an order that would really get you to like nachos like if somebody just added like the plain chips and cheese if someone gets an i don’t know no even nachos about grande just like nachos it’s weird why would you get nachos from taco bell yeah what’s what’s your end game yeah i don’t know what are you trying to like entice yeah or like hey would you like to share my nachos that’s weird or like a powerball oh yeah who’s getting a powerball the powerball the powerball is the official menu item of i didn’t want to be here but i am against my will and that’s fine i i’ve actually ordered a power bowl because like someone proposed taco bell and was like i don’t really want to eat my normal taco bell order right now yeah uh and so i got a power bowl because it’s it’s just a nice healthy little you like it no it’s not it’s not like good i’d rather just go to a poi loco yeah sure but like you know i don’t want to drag my friend to a place they didn’t when they obviously wanted taco bell enough to drag me there so that’s the official menu item of like i am here against my will what about you uh a normal a normal crunchy taco worse worse worse than that is a normal soft taco and almost as bad as a normal bean burrito if somebody orders any of those three things i’m like you are so afraid to grab life by the horns and you are so afraid to reach a pinnacle of happiness that it keeps you depressed at this level but that’s on me that’s not on people that’s my reaction yeah that is your reaction if they enjoy that and if it brings them you know a sense of comfort and joy who are we to say that they suck yeah and no i but i am i’m i am here nicole in my ivory tower yeah culture in burbank california no okay so taco bell put out a list of their highest selling menu items uh 2016 was the last year of data i could gather okay um but that’s still probably pretty damn accurate and the top three best-selling menu items were crunchy taco followed by soft taco followed by bean burrito okay so you just don’t you just you just want to be different you just want to be unique and don’t josh you don’t need that in life you don’t need to always be the unique one you don’t need to be the one always on the cutting edge normal is honestly really good but i i know i know the normal is good there’s wisdom in masses and the future belongs to crowds don delillo said that nicole who is that oh great american novelist wrote a fantastic book called mao too but the point is like i am i understand that i am in the wrong but i think there is still some objectivity to like taco bell has spent years developing these complex sauces sourcing spices around the world nicole probably i don’t know i don’t know if they say that in their literature okay and then for people just not use those you know and i don’t even think they’ve tried it do you think people who are ordering a normal crunchy taco have like gone to the mountaintop and tried the flamin hot doritos locos taco supreme with added potatoes possibly but it’s not for me to say it’s not for me to judge them basically i just want p that’s like one of the things that i believe is that people should try and get the most out of food have the most interesting experiences yeah right but you can lead a horse to doritos locos taco but it won’t drink it you know what i mean no no i feel that i feel that and then number four is the doritos taco which makes sense that was a big menu item that was huge um and but the ones that aren’t on there are the things that i think of as taco bell main states like the cheesy rotito crunch like the beefy five-layer burrito the crunchwrap supreme is not in their top five best-selling items that’s good that makes no sense to me but this puts a lot of things into context when you think about the items that taco bell has killed right the mexican pizza rip rib rib it was a great menu item but like i don’t think i’d ordered one in like five years or i’d probably ordered one to go like hey remember what that tastes like but you know it’s like when your favorite when your quote-unquote favorite restaurant closes and you’re like oh man rep that restaurant someone goes oh cool when’s the last time you went yeah and you’re like yeah it was nine months ago and you know so it’s like how much did people really love that did it with the cheesy fiesta potatoes yeah yeah i like the cheese if you have potatoes though i like it they went away but aren’t they back they’re like back right i think they yeah they well they brought potatoes back i don’t know if they have them as official menu item anymore could you like order a cheesy fiesta potato like a secretly you definitely could i mean that’s that’s the thing is now taco bell is going taco bell is going pure anarchy on their menu i love it i do too taco we’re in a great restructuring and fast food history when everything is just run through the apps and it’s all just automated and you just like click what things you want and so now it’s like whatever is actually on the menu board doesn’t reflect the possibility of what you can order mcdonald’s just introduced this whole landscape and air burger where you get a fillet stacked on a big mac stacked on a mcchicken it’s the it’s the hacks menu it’s a hacksmith and you have to do it all yourself they just give it you have to do it or do you get to do it all yourself well right there’s freedom too and freedom from nicole and which side are we living in that is a lull right honey that was a big lol is there anybody in your life that you think has a really inspiring taco bell order i eat taco bell by myself you do like you don’t you don’t think it’s you don’t think it’s something that you share taco bell’s not a social thing for me interesting dude but does that kind of inspire shame in you do you think it’s like yeah like eating ortolon you cover your head so god cannot see you nicole you are covered by your car’s rooftop no it’s more like uh i just want to do it by myself i just want to do it it’s not like a shame thing it’s like i just want to like taco bell with everyone around me i feel like i’ve i’ve had some great taco bell memories with groups with me and deep after we had a double double header in uh high school basketball jv team tribuco hills go mustangs uh yeah no one cares anywho uh we went to the taco bell across the street and we ate a combined 50 worth of taco bell that’s crazy how do you spend 50 at taco bell oh you just the sheer will to just consume soupy beef how many years teen boys i mean we were 16 and i mean we had really like the air conditioning in the gym was broken we had played like two hours of basketball literally just was wringing out my jersey i could have filled a whole 42 yeah 42 mountain dew cup with it uh and then you know we were so starving that we just went to talk about drop 50 uh and we ordered the most insane out there menu items right like we were getting all the new stuff we had a bunch of uh the taco bell by my high school had all of the new promo items that’s so cool that’s honestly one of the coolest things ever yeah like telling people you were there is like really cool oh my god oh i was there for the first crunch app supreme nicole i have been to the gates of alderaan and seeing stars melt in the rain whatever the blade runner references i thought i knew it i did alderaan’s a star wars thing huh star wars is blade runner they’re in the same universe yeah no they are yeah yeah yeah i think i think that to be true harrison ford is uh ben kingsley no he played gandhi in the biopic it was it was ben kingsley no ben uncle ben not not the race uncle ben is what they call him in star wars that was played by sir alec guinness no sir alec guinness anyways i think we’re really saying uh i think that our perceptions are flawed my perception at least it’s okay you can say hours you know okay i i think our perceptions are flawed based on our own personal interests and food and i think what we’ve learned nicole is that you and i are people that this is very very important too and you know fast food especially a lot of people out there it’s not they’re there for consistency they’re there for the crunchy tacos for the soft tacos for the bean burritos they’re there for that and that’s okay but i would still urge people go out there and grab life by the chalupa god dang it [Music] all right nicole i’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions [Music] that was uh you screamed it i’m happy we’re all jacked up man we’re all full of life and love and hey you know who’s also full of life and love who’s that trevor everts amen oh man and trevor everest has a brand new podcast that’s not brand new anymore it’s still new it’s new it’s still fresh but it’s also established incredibly and it’s called trevor talks too much it sure is josh and he talks to your favorite celebrities all of them like gamers like uh social media influencers like social like like streamers yeah maybe an athlete might come on one maybe an actor yeah or maybe like a famous dog like one of those instagram famous dogs the little pomeranian yeah yeah if anyways listen to trevor talks too much uh it really is a delight it is a great question and stars five stars and then a pomeranian will come on and it’ll have a lot to say about what it’s like to grow up as a young person in america all right nicole first up we got at chef seth 23 tony sees is the new salt you can put it on anything and it will taste better do you want me to say what i want to say say what you want to say okay so um the first week that david and i moved in together i made him fish with tony sees and it was too salty we just put too much on it was too salty it’s not tony sees fault yeah it is it’s not salt’s fault if you over salt hey morton’s corporation oh yeah hey diamond salt uh you’re gonna need good i’m so sorry this mountain dew is crushing me the one thing i did not miss was that i’m gonna be honest with you uh yeah tony sees uh the also tony stachary’s the full christian given name uh the original point was actually to make a new salt and pepper like tony sachery himself was like a board of just salt and pepper on the table here’s just one spice he can put on everything and it makes it taste better uh and i think they did that that said there’s a lot of other great you say how did i know that yeah dude how do i know anything again no no get ready for the next two things that i’m gonna know it because i looked at some of these opinions there’s some deep cut knowledge in there uh anyway so yeah that’s like the original point uh i love tony statues lowry seasoning salt’s great sloppy mom and cajun seasoning is great old bay i mean it kind of has a weird like mrs dash you like oh bro montreal spicy steak seasoning that hits for mccormick yeah yeah yeah that’s a great i’m i’m really leaning into spice blends as i get like busier in my life social obligations work trying to like spend quality time with my partner um spice blends pre-made just use them just use them okay uh dna five two six is peruvian ceviche is the original ceviche um i don’t know enough like food knowledge to really okay go ahead nicole the original ceviche was actually a 9th century iraqi dish called sikh bhaj that was a vinegared lamb stew no way yes yes yes yes and so ceviche is uh along with escobache with escovich god there are even some other i can’t remember there’s a lot of words that take their route from seekpage which is a vinegar stew including um you know jews invented fish and chips on sailing boats yes to preserve it for shabbat all that and then they start opening up fish and chip shops in england um all that has its roots in sikh podge and so seaquads used to be vinegar and lambster vinegar and sugar preserved it i’ve made the original recipe uh it is absolutely fantastic got a bunch like dates and stuff in there and then as sailors kind of gathered this knowledge sailing around the world because that’s how ideas spread back then uh they’re like yo we got a bunch of cod we can probably do that same thing with it right um and then that turned into fish and then uh in peru they were making a raw fish dish and these are the indigenous people of peru they were making a raw fish dish that you know didn’t have the citrus and vinegar and stuff on it and then those were sort of introduced by sailors and that sort of became you know peruvian ceviche and so it is kind of like you know the original and then of course there’s a lot of chinese and japanese influence with nikkei and chifa cuisine uh in peru and so you get dishes like tierra dito and then i had so much tear detail yeah dude so much so good i got a shout out so it’s peruvian ceviche i suppose is the original ceviche uh i love mexican ceviche as well uh a lot more shrimp in there um i ate so much aguachile in baja and uh shout out to la terral la tarel in uh san jose del cabo um because they did a tiradito with gochujang oh which is really interesting because you know a lot of people i don’t know even if a lot of american tourists go to mexico they’re like i want authentic mexican food it’s like well there’s a lot of chefs in mexico who also want to play with international flavors east asian flavors and mexican food and so they had some really awesome like classic um aguachile then they had this like tiaradito with like black sesame and gochujang sounds great and it was such a delight shout out to la terrell all right hi i’m dave b wood ear fungus is the devil bro is it love woody i like woodier fungus what are your fungus or what are your mushrooms i guess you see they’re very rubbery they’re rubber yeah they kind of taste a little bit like rubber bands but they’re delicious yeah when they’re cooked properly uh love them in soup love them kind of like cooked and then marinated and chilled yeah kind of like a little bottle yeah they’re like very thin and black and have this um crunchy texture that you’ll find in like jellyfish has it yes abalone has it uh pig ear has it you know what i mean i do love pig i love pig too yeah uh and i love cold pigger too a lot of places in l.a would like fry pig ears that was a comment i remember yeah um but no like cold marinated pig ear is big in sichuan cooking uh you can get it in uh at mexican restaurants there’s a haliskan place down the road that got it and that’s absolutely delicious i love whittier fungus also the term fungus and mushroom is kind of used interchangeably because it’s translated from chinese most of the time um so i’m a huge fan of that totally uh let’s see what’s next hi i’m dave b has so many opinions let’s see let’s read another one savory breakfast is better than sweet breakfast 100 agree i think i think okay hold on hold on hold on it depends what you ate most recently um like the night before i think what does that mean okay if i have it if i have ended the night before with like a dessert with a nice sweet treat okay and i will wake up i don’t get reset by the sleep button i will wake up and crave something savory for breakfast interesting so your taste buds don’t restart they don’t restart okay like for instance this is this is um a an egregious example of it but the other day um after going to a club in cabo and ending up at a taco shop called takariyama at like four in the morning um i ate like four corn inside of tacos a bunch of really spicy chili bowl and then i woke up for the free hotel breakfast and just ate like eight slices of coffee cake and that was and that was what i needed at the time i even soaked the coffee cake in a little bit of condensed milk to try and make trace lychee’s coffee cake and how did that go put some granola on it for crunch nicole oh my gosh it was nice and so i think there’s a time and place for both no i like i’m an egg in the morning kind of girl mm-hmm i like try to do an oatmeal but it doesn’t satisfy me the way it goes i’m gonna make some oatmeal after this man we have salad all right all right we got at bulky sam people oh yeah we got salads coming we got add bulky sam people who refer to vanilla ice cream as plain are eating the wrong ice cream i don’t know what do you think okay so vanilla is like one of the most important plants in human history like it was just you know literally traded as freaking currency because it’s such an incredible flavor it’s complex it’s like the freaking stamen pod of an orchid or whatever i don’t know anything about is it was very rare hard to grow they it’s something like whatever it started planting it all across the world because it was so coveted and so freaking dank uh but now we’ve like deluded the meaning of its flavors so much but i think most people don’t know what real vanilla actually tastes like and so i think all these different kinds of um well there are but i’m saying like all these commercial ice creams they just don’t taste a ton like vanilla they taste like white right like this tastes like white milk sugar ice cream yeah and so i think he’s got to get the right vanilla ice cream correct you know i love like vanilla bean i love vanilla it’s like one of the best flavors oh it’s incredible it’s kind of a little bit floral and just ooh heady when people are like i don’t like vanilla ice cream it’s like you do yeah you actually do because vanilla is probably the base of almost all the ice creams you’re eating agreed so agree to grady raid um noah dulski the best way to eat a pint of ice cream is with flaky salt sprinkled on every spoonful oh snap i do this yeah sometimes i like i put like salt on like unlike sweet things yeah i i don’t put it do you put it on every spoonful no yeah i’ll do like a little layer across the top of the kind of ice cream that i’m eating and then i’ll kind of slightly mix it because i don’t love crunchy salt i don’t want to crunch through it but i want the flavor yeah uh and so yeah that is a good way to improve any kind of ice cream you’re eating josh made a really good milkshake one time with salt and oreos and it was so damn delicious yeah it was a salted malted oreo milkshake and honey that was good yeah dude that was that was that that was because i i had a salted malted butterscotch milkshake at the tillamook factory oh wow bro that was that hit that was the best milkshake i’ve ever had that sounds delicious all right we’ve got alex act general show’s chicken is always superior to teriyaki chicken two different countries three if you consider america’s uh influence in all of this uh they’re okay i understand where they’re coming from because panda express added a teriyaki esque chicken to their menu okay because they didn’t have any like non-fried chicken options i mean they had the kung pao chicken and chicken with string beans but they didn’t have any just like get a chunk of chicken not fried yeah and so they added teriyaki chicken to it which is very confusing um but there’s a lot of places that will have both chinese and japanese cuisine so i don’t think these are analogous um but general shows versus orange versus lemon versus cashew chicken i go orange every time i go cashew cashews i love cashew chicken as someone who hates the cheesecake factory the cashew chicken from the cheesecake factories are my favorite things in the whole entire universe also um i don’t know i love teriyaki chicken and actually have you read wubba grill before i’ve i’ve never i’ve seen so many water i have a confession to make i think waba grill is in my top three favorite fast food really since i am obsessed with wubba grill next time i get off on the freeway on my way to anywhere else because that is all the waba girls i see i am obsessed with all the way to lax i like told david about it i even took him one time he’s like this isn’t social i’m like shut your mouth this is delicious i don’t even know what’s on their menu what do you get from oh my god i got their teriyaki chicken or their teriyaki steak with broccoli and brown rice man did you ever go to flame broiler never my mouth is watering i refuse to walk into a flame or yoshi no why why flame bro both of them i don’t know do you flame right i like a weird visceral reaction when i see there like logos i’m like i can’t do it i can’t do it but waba girl i love you waba girl if waba girl if you’re listening just open one next to my house waba girl get nicole on that sponsorship game i have never heard anybody passionately defend waba grill the way that you have and i think there’s something special there nicole i hope you and waba grill have a happy life together i’ll be chilling at the flame broiler eat my plain cherry teriyaki chicken bowl all right and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter mythicalchef or in handyzonda with hashtag opinion casserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see you next time let’s go talk about grab life by the chalupa liverpool i do know [Music]