ramble [Music] did air fryers actually change the game for good or are we just dumb and forgot that toaster weapons exist this is a hot dog it’s a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole inaudible and nicole today we’re talking about the new hot invention oh my god what is it oh my god it’s so new nicole everybody has one it will change the game for good it’s called a little toaster oven that you put stuff in and then you heat it up yum no we’re talking about air fryers airfryers are everywhere we’ve seen so many viral tick tocks everywhere everywhere you easy the air fried cauliflower nicole they got the air fried buffalo wings they get the best way to heat your pizza again is an airfryer the best way to read you ever made an air fried omelet nicole you can make a fried cupcakes you make air fried shrimp potatoes air fried shrimp salad air fried shrimp soup you can do so much with an air fryer you can do so much with an air fryer except for fry things yeah it’s not a fryer not a fryer has nothing to do with frying it’s a misnomer it is a mystery oh yeah that’s a good word right i love the word misnomer haven’t heard in a while really love that uh no but i mean tell people about the airfryers and and why you think they like them okay i think people like [ __ ] well should we explain what an air fryer is no air fryers didn’t explain what an air fryer is why the hell should we okay you’re right it’s not my duty to do so neither is it yours but you just love information i do okay okay okay okay so an airfryer and airfryer and airfryer uh the first mass market one marketed under the name air fryer and that’s an important distinction uh came out in uh 2010 uh okay had been working on this for like you know five six years apparently comes out at like a culinary product trade show uh in germany and then it spread over western europe a couple years and then in 2015 is where i believe it like first officially came to the states as a mass market good okay uh and i remember hearing about the term air fryer around that time 2015 2016 uh and i heard you know it fries food with one fifth the oil or whatever yeah and i was like oh my god this is an incredible invention what it must do is take a small amount of oil in a central cartridge and then like spin it around in the air so less i literally thought that’s what an airfryer was like an oil tornado and i still don’t know if that can exist but anyways uh so i thought that’s what it was and i was like that’s a very cool invention and i learned what it actually is is a tabletop convection oven yeah and you have to add the oil to the food yourself which is the same process as oven roasting right correct yeah if you want to make uh you know oven roasted broccoli whatever like yeah you add oil to it of course and so all it is is a table top convection oven it works with a fan and i should explain what a convection oven is that was invented in the 40s nicole but anywho it’s an oven that blows hot air around effectively like reducing the amount of moisture because if you think about the way that moisture sits on food hot air hits it kind of blows it off and then also um think about the idea of wind chill right if it’s like a cold day and it’s windy it feels colder hot day it’s windy it feels hotter yes there’s more air rushing at you and so that’s what an air fryer is um and people ate it up and now there’s all these healthy air fried blah blah recipes uh and that’s it yeah i don’t know i think that the subject is if they’re overrated yes i’m just gonna say yes they’re overrated it’s tough to say they’re not just because of how many freaking people own these things i know but it’s it’s like saying it’s a cri it’s like an instant pot overrated oh i don’t think instapot is overrated i think it spots rock socks okay so instant pot is a really good comparison because to me there there are three main home cooking gadgets over the last like say i don’t know seven years or a decade that made such a huge impact right first one air fryers are the kind of soup du jour ironically can’t make soup in an air fryer but um air fryers are kind of the big thing right now i think a couple years before that instant pots are the big thing sure yeah and so air fryers what they are is a very very good effective convection tabletop oven and a lot of toaster ovens have convection settings i love toaster ovens i’m a toaster oven stan i am so happy that i bought a toaster oven versus an airfryer but do what can a toaster oven do that an airfryer can’t i don’t know i just like the shape of a toaster oven more like a great rectangle i think air fryers are like aesthetically very ugly they’re so ugly they look like they’re from like the jetsons yeah and not in a good way you know what i mean like seriously what can you what do you make in a toaster oven a toast you just make that’s all you do uh you don’t have a toaster no i don’t have a toaster like a standalone toaster i don’t know i also agree because i hate having unit taskers in the kitchen i use it for toast david uses it to warm up his meat i like to use a pan i mean warm up his name like for example if you guys leaving his meat not like that i didn’t mean like his meat like that i just meant like you imply that david has special meat packs that he warms up no no no so for example like let’s just say i had shawarma for lunch at work and i say hey honey i made i got shawarma from work i’m gonna leave half of it for you and i’m gonna be okay because i am i’m full he takes his meat and he warms up the shawarma me in the toaster oven which i was like what is going on here but he’s like yeah man this is the best way to do it and honestly it came out really good kind of crispy i liked it what have you air friendly i mean i just think it’s weird to use to your toaster oven is literally used it is a duo tasker no no toast and david’s warm the meat no let me keep going my toaster oven’s cool because it has multiple settings it has a bake setting i think it has which is to say the oven is on that is the bake setting no no no there’s like a toast setting what’s the difference between toast and baked in a toaster oven no do you know the differences yeah i think it gets hotter faster but does it have no no let me tell you so so i have a really great toaster this is not sponsored it’s a breville toaster oven and i’m obsessed with it and it has like multiple settings on it what is the problem well no i’m saying like what are those setting because uh i don’t know but i like them you have these like microwaves that have like you know the 900 settings where it’s like yeah baked potato popcorn a cup of beans and it’s like who’s michael even a cup of beans enough to have a cup of beans setting and also how do you know how big this cup of beans is there’s a lot of things that have a bunch of like useless settings that don’t necessarily correlate to anything you need well i don’t think it’s useless it just helps and also like this i’m not going to hover over my toes i’m like huh yeah that’s looking real nice and toasty i’m just gonna come back when it’s toasted but like okay so most toaster ovens in my experience the settings that they have right they’ll have like broil toast bake something else and they’re all defrost it all just depends on like which like electric grid is on top or bottom right okay yeah so baking is heat from below broil is heat from above toast is heat from both above and below and keep warm as low heat from below but i don’t know if mine yeah like they’re not like settings really you know it’s just like which well josh i’m not gonna put my hand in there and just say oh i want to turn that one off or that one on it’s helpful no sure sure sure i get that i get that okay but but what do you think that you could use that toast driver for that you couldn’t do an air fryer better nothing so why don’t you get an air fryer i don’t want one i don’t want one either but why well well i don’t know why is it because we we just want to go against the grain nicole we just want to be deliberate have you ever had like air fried toast even it’s so much better i’ve never had you can air fried toast bro you can okay so do we have an air fryer at work we definitely we have used them on camera and we must have saved them they’re in storage stole one and it’s at my mom’s house oh sorry was i not supposed to say that i’ve air-fried a whole cake at work but i’ve never used it at home for cooking i’ve like air fried things before and i’ve always been very impressed with how they turn out yeah right and i also like i roast vegetables so often at home yeah and i’m always mad and i crank the oven to 550 degrees i try and get it as hot as possible i will preheat the cast iron pan i will chop up my broccolini or whatever toss in the oil throw it in the cast iron pan throw it under the broiler to try and get it crispy and it never quite does i should just get a damn air fryer you know what it is you know what it is i think it’s like a weird like chef thing that we have like the stupid thing where it’s like i’m gonna use the oven because my forefathers use the oven i don’t know i guess that’s maybe my mentality i’m like it’s just a super small countertop oven yeah we want to feel better than people yeah i think that’s what it is it is i think i should just get one but here’s the thing nicole here’s the crazy thing what what is it is that we went through the first generation everyone got oh my god air fryers are my life they’re so amazing and i went and they were like but it makes my food really good and it’s gotten me to enjoy cooking and i go actually but now the people like me have overtaken the people like them and now more people are like it’s just the conviction convection oven and then income me nicole with actually it’s a convection oven but it works at a specific rate so now i’ve come full on the other way where i’m pro air fryer you have egg on your face i have egg on my foot but i’m just i’m just a pawn i’m just a sheep that reacts to the rest of the world and if they say jumpa you’re actually jumping’s bad for your knees and if they go how high i go actually altitude sickness and i’m just going against the grain just to go against the grain yeah man that’s a deep-seated problem you gotta you put all the hot sauce on cauliflower put that in there right nicole yeah air fryer buffalo cauliflower wings are good i don’t know it’s like this weird thing everyone was like sensationalizing i’m like i don’t want to be a part of that sense i don’t want to be a part of it yeah because i did it with the sous-vide machine and i’m like oh i already went through this and like do i really want to go through this again and have another gadget because i grew up with my house being full of gadgets like my mom would just go like my mom literally has a drawer she goes do you see my gadget and it’s just filled with stuff and she never really uses it i remember one time i was like maybe 12 years old and she bought a curly fry maker yes and i’m like mom wait but not a spiralizer it was a spiralizer it was like a big stand like stand up spiralizer was this like pre because the spiralizer boom that was big like seven years ago this is pretty this is when i was like a kid yeah she had this big white spiralizer and it was always in a box and i’m like mom why did you buy this she’s like you know maybe one time i’ll make curly fries never had curly fries in my home as a kid dude yeah that’s how i feel about air fryers but maybe it’s also like such like a such like a millennial thing like oh like you know i’m gonna go get a seven dollar latte and i’m gonna make air fried salmon yeah it is it is it’s a certain like aesthetic you know that i have always like wanted to rebel against right like there’s that certain idea that like oh if i have this dollar gadget then it will finally make me cook and i’m like you don’t need anything to make you cook yeah yeah yeah i think our grandparents going through the great depression needed a gadget to cook yeah yeah cause you have to but that said so many people have like the airfryer cookbooks right they’re giving people all these ideas for foods they’ve never made before julia’s mom what up susan if you’re listening she was like i’ve never made a little fried shallot garnish before but well my favorite restaurant in at the jersey shore it’s called uh i can’t remember but they do something called an ugly tomato salad that has fried shallots she’s like you know what for the first time ever since i feel confident with an air fryer i’m gonna make fried shallots and put it on the salad that reminds me of a nostalgic time in my life and you know what the fried shallots didn’t turn out good but that’s okay the restaurant’s called can’t remember good my nickels was the name of that restaurant she’s so funny i don’t remember oh but they do the salad they just like cut a beef steak tomato in half and then they just put like a balsamic dressing a bunch of blue cheese and fried shallots on it and that’s what i’m saying that sounds really good jersey tomatoes too anywho what about the other gadgets the other the other big gaps let’s go through the big okay we have instapot how do you feel about an instant pot i think instant pots are great my mom really wants me to buy one but i kind of want to buy a crockpot because i just want to rebel against the current literally this is another thing with your toaster oven versus air fryer anything a crock pot can do an instant pot can do like nine times better and then there’s all the other things that it can i know i know what’s wrong with me i don’t know wrong way i oh it’s actually just an electric pressure cooker um which um has existed so um 1992 actually um and then i actually used one i was like damn it doesn’t this made good soup we have two at work oh my god anytime there’s anything we go put that in the oven for five hours we actually put in an instant pot for 20 minutes no no they deserve silence it’s the same thing that’s the point nicole that’s the point is it can do that and what a marvel of modern technology the fact that these things exist nicole you and i are rebuffing them for what yeah i don’t know it’s we’re like what’s it called like uh we’re uh what is called gatekeeping we’re gatekeeping we’re gatekeeping and i don’t know why we are i don’t know open up the gates yeah what’s the worst thing that happened oh we get to enjoy delicious crispy faster faster and better no you sound like a weird priest i’ll just hopped up on the holy spirit and like uh quick lentils your voice was really high for a second i’m like the holy spirit listen to that song with the god look at god he brings you down down to a chili that only took 17 minutes so they just pop and i will say the new generation vincent possible the saute functional my god so much hotter is it oh so much hotter than the first generation because i’ve had both i’ve had both nickel i’ve seen the mountain tops i’ve been i’ve been where the angels driving chairs are unhinged that half can of bang really did you do oh yeah no i did chug n not a sponsor uh yeah bang energy the official energy drink of manic podcast uh but no i instant pot is something that like has genuinely changed the way i cook at home i think i need to just get one yeah i do i do still kind of like cringe at the the trickery that they use right because they have all their presets right yeah like it’s so easy yeah like you just click uh beans you click stew you click soup there is no difference in the time and temperature and pressure between a soup because what is a soup nicole what does the soup into stew have to do they don’t know what kind of stew you’re making yeah we literally did oh we did that yeah they’re the same but they’re different they’re just saying like in the instant pot does not have the technology to know that oh they have loaded two pounds of chicken and and this many pounds of carrots and that means this is a stew and it needs to be cooked a different pressure it’s literally just like ah one goes for 20 minutes the other goes for 28 minutes well yeah they do testing do they i call qc quality control i’m saying if you can put uh one’s for beans right there are some beans that are real big some beans that are real little yeah that’s i i understand that i understand of course i understand that but um i think what we need to do is do a test and make beans on the stew and make beans in the pudding and make beans in the beans oh wait that’s a good idea which instant pot setting actually makes beans yeah and find out my guess is all of them yeah me too and then there’s there’s even a setting which is kind of insane that every every gadget that comes out now they want to prove that they’re not a unit asker in fact they want to be the opposite right they want to be the multi-tasker literally like because there’s a setting on the instant pot called yogurt what is that yogurt the yogurt setting like you literally have to of course add your own cultures and dairy and the way you make yogurt is you just gently heat something for a long time and so the yogurt setting is literally just a crock pot right a crock pot is also yogurt maker they just didn’t think to advertise that because no one was making their own yogurt in the 80s wow yeah and so that’s cool i want to make my own yogurt i think the reason that i try and like act like i don’t love these new gadgets is because i feel like they’re trying to trick people you know into being like it’s a yogurt maker it’s like no it’s just a pot that gets warm yeah but you can do anything in a pot you can do anything in a pot yeah 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breaks my heart because when i first got it i was like i am a chef honey i’m like i am cooking i know my settings if i wanted to make elk i could if i wanted to make carrots sous vide carrots i could yeah i could salmon i didn’t see the carrots once and i was like there’s a good character that i never did again me too it’s like it’s such a great concept but who has the time save if anybody doesn’t know uh sous vide also there are a lot of pretentious people who if i say sous vide machine they’ll go actually it’s an immersion circulator like oh i used to be just like you i used to say that um no it’s called a sous-vide machine you know how i know that because i bought one it said sous-vide machine on it and that’s how i know what it’s called yeah um but anywho what it does a it’s a stick that you put in water to coal it makes the water temperature a move and then it moves around it’s a jacuzzi yeah it’s a jacuzzi backstab except except jacuzzis in america aren’t allowed to go over 104.25 degrees because otherwise people get heatstroke and die or their bacteria like hangs out right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and so this is a jacuzzi that you you rigged a little mod on it and get it up to 180 or whatever you know what pisses me off this is all about wait no no that’s not true actually i know you can do the water displacement method and all that stuff but like if you really want to like you know do it like yeah you want to look like you’re on episode top chef which is the reason people buy sous vide machines yeah exactly it’s like you gotta you gotta buy this additional equipment to get the full effect yeah and so that’s what no one said that in like the the small print of like the the emergence circulator you know what i mean but but if you go on amazon they’ll sell it as like package deal but they know that they’re spending so much money well it’s time to put that stuff on your on your counter today for real there’s so much stuff um you got to buy the lexan to keep do you got to buy alexander you know what lexan is it’s like it’s like a clear uh like well like it’s like clear it’s cute it’s like it’s like a vessel it’s like a container you pour the water oh oh yeah yeah like a like a camera like a cam bro yeah bro uh cambro follows me on twitter and i just want to say they make a lot of like memes and they’re kind of like delightful cool yeah i just want to say that i think it’s funny that a brand like canberra one got great equipment um i just think it’s funny that they have like a couple of those are like very specific like food things like lexan and a camera very like food people things but yeah you gotta like buy so much you don’t just buy a souvenir but that said there are huge payoffs to sous-vide right we did this ourselves so to get back to what sous-vide cookery is it spins the water at a certain temperature and it’s best application is you take a big old steak that you’re afraid of screwing up and you put it in to exactly say 120 degrees which is perfectly rare and then you sear it off get it up to like 125 for midway or whatever you can very easily temperature control your steak yes or or any protein right you want to do any vegetables yeah but any yeah are people like that particularly about the internal temp of the rutabaga you know what i mean you if you want i mean it’s again it’s one of those things where it’s like okay it’s like incredible cookery and if you can make a rutabaga taste like a burger cool you know what i mean yeah there’s people out there that do that it’s not the vast majority of like home cooks but still like there’s people out there that are like experimenting and doing cool things like texture temperature you know how long do you let something sous-vide like the only reason i would have a sous-vide machine is if i had a large cut of steak or pork or like a tomahawk like a tamak that i don’t know and i’ve done this before i got like a really nice steak for valentine’s day or whatever i was like i don’t want to screw it up and just souvenir we have tested sous vide versus reverse here side by side we found that sous vide just makes the best steak it really does right really dumb um but when the sous vide machines came out i remember the early brands namiku anova uh what was the other one i don’t know i have an anova person you have an anova i had a nominal i like nomiku they were all trying to be like namikum was expensive is like three hundred dollars oh yeah well because it had an app i think nami came first and then anova like undercut them and then a couple other ones undercut that but anyways they were trying to like you know turn it into like a very techy invention they were like you hook it up to this app and this app gives you these ideas and you can share recipes with your friends you tell friends when you put the carrots in the baggie and the friends you know put the carrots in the baggie nicole and i was just like this is so annoying just you know like this isn’t a new invention the immersion circulators have been around since the 70s and restaurants and it’s just an easy way to hold food didn’t they do it back in like a scoffia time just without the technology but they would have like the waters well you’d have like a bain marie and you’d spin it and circulate it yeah yeah so they just replaced they found a machine to do what like a a french peasant used to do interesting novas are just french peasants they’re just french pheasants yeah uh but that said i don’t know do you do you own a soup machine now i do you do of course how often do you break it out never right once we were literally just talking about the idea of you know asking what is your favorite restaurant and the only answer is whatever restaurant you go to most yeah you know there is no such thing as a favorite restaurant for me at least yeah and so this is the same idea of like you know it’s like oh my god i love my souvenirs like when’s the last time you used it don’t remember but there’s some people that are like diehards but are they still doing it because that was the thing in the early days where people were like they were literally someone making a sous-vide omelette and they put a freaking omelette in a bag and then waited for the water to heat up and then cooked their almonds at the perfect temperature and went and escorted it out of a bag yeah i remember doing that in culinary school actually we made up we made an omelette roll within the bag like you you like flattened the egg you flatten the egg and then and then when it was at a certain temperature you would squish it down and then it would make a cylinder you basically made the egg roll what is that the egg rolly the egg really but but you made a sheet of egg and then you rolled it up no no no so what we did is we could we we took the eggs we scrambled then we put them in the sous-vide bag we flattened out the sous-vide bag and once they got to like a certain temperature he’s made an egg log i made an egg dude you know who also does that like fast food restaurants in a microwave that’s how they let it like dunkin donuts makes their egg and so for me this the sous vide thing was always just a little bit like it was way more smoke and mirrors and it had one good use except they were trying to get people to use it for all sorts of things yeah that never made sense to me so i i don’t think that like sous-vide machines have the utility that something like both instant pots and air fryers do because instant pots the other thing with that is pressure cookers have always been a thing electric pressure cookers are somewhat newer but like a stove top pressure cooker been around for forever have you ever used one no because they scare the hell out of me me too they don’t want to do that the ones on the top oh my god and they whistle yeah any science any appliance that is commonly used in like terrorism like in like in homemade bombs that’s the thing uh i don’t wanna like use i don’t know if someone’s you know out there making spiralizer you know uh mortar shells i wouldn’t use a spiralizer but like it scares the hell out of me it’s so scary i don’t want to do that yeah i don’t like that which which of those three so you own a sous-vide machine you don’t own an instant pot or an air fryer are you happy that that is the one of the three big main gadgets that you own no i wish i had an air fryer i do too let’s just order an air fryer right now i’m just gonna take the one i stole from work from my mom’s house and take it yeah that’s probably better yeah it’s funny right when i said let’s order an air fryer right now i thought about going to amazon and typing it in and then ordering it and i got anxiety and i was like i don’t want it oh why it’s another thing where am i gonna put it yeah because i already have my bamboo nicole i already have my bamboo steaming baskets for dumplings you still have those yeah oh my god i love them they’re nicole they’re my favorite oh they’re my favorite cooking piece of equipment no way yeah asked me the last time i used one one last time a year and a half ago next question when we make but what the hell am i gonna do put an air fryer there instead of the bamboo steamers well yeah the bamboo steamers are more like i don’t know like how often do you steam stuff now never literally never yeah i think i think i’m gonna buy an air fryer i’m gonna buy an air fryer it’s just gonna happen air fryer yeah what’s the first thing you’re gonna air fry when you buy an air fryer salmon i was dude i was literally just thinking that because i’m tired of using heating up do you think it’s more expensive to heat up the oven or to plug in the air fryer this is a big one for me this isn’t me um just coming from like a place of privilege or irresponsibility i think those costs are like very very minimal compared to anything you deciding to eat salmon is way bigger of an expense than you running the oven for an extra eight minutes is it well now my whole life is you know what i mean like it’s it’s you know there’s other ways i like to save money than thinking about heating an oven mm-hmm you know you know that’s where i come from you know i’m i’m trying to you know buy a house one day i feel that i don’t i’m trying to make sure there’s an extra 89 cents of electricity oh you take that 89 cents and then you start an llc nicole oh my god and then you put that into high yield bonds i knew you were gonna and then crypto baby oh my gosh how many crypto eyes did you see at the big game oh dude oh my god did you see that coinbase ad when i recorded the big game and then i fast forwarded through all the commercials and then julia would go stop stop i wanted to watch it that’s the best part no i want to see you you didn’t see that higgins slapped jalen ramsay in the face and catch touchdowns and club i like cooper i thought you’re trying to say cobra kai you say no i know i know the tournament cooper cup looks like the third paul brother that they like don’t show on camera well reference just went over my head um see keep talking about air okay okay salmon yes and the second thing what is your hold on what is the problem with the salmon that you’re making currently there is no problem why do you think there’s a problem with it well i don’t know i’m saying like if an invention is there to solve a problem or to make something better just faster than baking salmon yeah because i take a whole like you know sheet pan got to clean the sheet and then because i’m eco-friendly i don’t use like parchment paper i use silk hat mats i have to go through cleaning up the silpat mat but what i could do is i could just take the silpat mat and put it in the airfryer and then just put the salmon on there and then lift it up and use it and then just clean the sill pad and then but you also have to clean the basin of the airfryer and also it gets kind of like messy when you think about it doesn’t it kind of give you anxiety right now because then you have to change how you do things normally and i don’t i don’t know if i like that you know i’m probably gonna buy it i’m i’m just like so many exacerbated size in this i don’t know what kind you’re afraid can someone just like tell us what to do we’re not like equipped for this hit us up on twitter or something and just tell us which airfryer to buy and we’ll do it we want you to like us yeah i want to be like you we want to understand why you love airfryer if your dad has an air fryer company just tell us what it is so we can buy this yeah give us some free air fryers oh free ones yeah oh yeah give us free ones yeah because here’s the thing we don’t we don’t like who we are i love myself yeah but okay i listen i hate myself nicole loves herself no i’m saying like i want to understand the air fryer thing and i’m generally excited about it there’s just certain hang-ups that i have let’s buy it because i’m a creature of habit let’s buy an air fryer come back revisit maybe do something similar in this podcast again and see where we’re at in like three months i’m gonna make brussels sprouts make the crispiest broth nicole these brussels nicole listen to me these brussels sprouts nicole they’re gonna have 70 less oil because they’ve been air fryer don’t you know it’s really interesting [Music] all right nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a second we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] oh you whispered it i’m different today these days i love that for us all right at lars underscore twee putting cinnamon powder in a hearty umami dish actually makes it really good mm-hmm what what are you talking about yeah in like certain persian foods secret ingredient in a lot of the red stews is a little itty bitty sprinkle of cinnamon oh no i i certainly agree with that i’m just is he saying that like every like hearty umami dish or is he just saying that the possibility of cinnamon in savory foods is good i don’t know i think they’re specifying hearty umami dish yeah which is like let’s think about some like curry like oh there’s tons of cinnamon in and like i mean tons of different curries i mean cinnamon is a huge part of pho yes as well um cinnamon in like there’s a dish called beef bourguignon should they put it in there it’s a hearty umami dish actually probably yeah that would probably be really good there’s a um there’s a dish that’s similar to beef bourguignon called kapama from uh i mean similar to before the fact that it’s like you know meat and red wine and tomato and stuff like that um from like northern greece i think that is super cinnamon heavy with the red wine and it is a delight uh i agree with that i think it’s i think people just think of cinnamon when it comes to sweet stuff i think it’s cinnamon toast crunch cinnamon sugar churros stuff like that put cinnamon savory things yeah i agree i think it’s a great chili chili mole mole mole cola i love molly colorado mole amarillo i don’t know i don’t know what that one is uh yeah no i’m in oh have you read molly blanco no but i heard it’s an elusive queen it’s an elusive queen hard to find it hard to find i just i saw someone on uh triple triple d make it i was watching triple d recently and i’m like this is such good television oh yeah dinosaur evans and dives is the greatest show i believe he was in cuba with the molly blanco no oh you were watching chicken flavored ramen noodles with canned chili and cheddar cheese on top is fire i believe that a million percent yeah i don’t know how uh this has never happened to me i don’t know how i’ve never managed to combine those three things you were a canned chili man i mean this is just spaghetti bolognese the better can we all agree with that chicken ramen noodles better than spaghetti canned chili better than bolognese cheddar cheese better than parmigiano reggiano though this is it this is the pinnacle of food i think this probably tastes really good but i’m just not gonna do it no i can’t see a situation in which i ever would actually the situation would be at work when like you know because a lot of times i’ll yeah yeah i’ll root through the fridge like a pig you know looking for truffles just looking through the fridge and normally i find like pickles and lunch meat yeah one day nicole i’m gonna find ramen noodles canned chili and shredded cheddar and i’m gonna have myself a time good luck josh thank you at sea pearls09 wendy’s four for four is the best combo of any chain um can you explain because i don’t do combo meals uh so wendy’s four for four it is okay let me let me back up a little bit so the history of the american combo meal no this is actually going somewhere right common meal typically fries a burger sandwich or another entree like chicken nuggets uh-huh and a drink okay right it’s an entree a side of generally fries and a drink okay uh and then the american people simply demanded more mcdonald’s had the super size menu which literally they had to get rid of because of morgan spurlock good i like morgan springer and yeah i you know he complicated likes no not i mean not i just i think that that movie super size me was very sort of misleading i thought um but anyways he’s probably good uh he does something with chickens now he’s making another movie about chickens uh anywho so there’s that but then the american people nicole they just continued clamoring at the door wanting more and so they had to start making combo menus that now turned more burgers into sides and chicken nuggets became a side and then they started having to come with dessert so now you know taco bell came out with a five dollar big box where they’re like we’ll just give you a box of food and you eat it in your car and that’s an appropriate meal now so the wendy’s four for four is that so a combo used to be three items now there’s four now you can get like mix and match you can get like a fries ten chicken nuggets and a burger you can get two burgers a chicken nugget and a fry and maybe like a chicken sandwich or something that’s really a lot of food for four dollars which is great yeah wendy’s wendy’s value menu one like wendy’s used to always have four for four it was called the dollar menu and you just bought four things off of it and that was your meal and i used to get like a sided chili baked potato and two ginger bacon cheeseburgers wow and that was a and what a meal for a hearty growing bowl yeah yeah you know million percent i’ve just never been a combo meal person like whenever people are like do you want like a drinking fries i’m like no yeah i just get the sandwich let’s let’s google it’s on the wendy’s four for four okay go for it yeah it’s basically a combo chicken nuggets that seems to be what you do yeah just not a big combo meal person never have been probably never will be and that’s okay unless it’s a happy meal love happy meals i’m in it for the toy all right gifford 0720 says chocolate chip cookies dipped in dijon mustard are a sweet tangy delight that’s for you and only you to know yeah never going to do that we did something in gmm where we took like chocolate chip cookies and we tried to like put various things on them and get them in various things if they were good uh-huh dude did we do anything similar to mustard i don’t think we did because there was that what was it oreos and mayonnaise or oreos and mustard that was big recently someone did it on like the tik tok or something maybe mustard i can like lizzo keeps putting mustard on stuff god bless her she’s out there i can’t imagine this being good um and that’s okay yeah i would probably rather go ketchup than mustard i think i would find that an enjoyable thing i can’t imagine that like dijon yeah i mean we did um sesame oil i like that yeah i’d put mayonnaise on a cookie certainly i know you would why not why not why not all right at matmatt226 a slushie is a scam just watered down juice lol they hit you with the lull they hit me with the law they hit you with the law i love when i see lala at the end of comments uh no slushies all right it depends what you mean by slushie per se yeah um but one i’m not basing the value of a food off of its um percentage of juice right it’s percentage purity of the ingredient i’m basing the value off of how much i enjoy it yeah do you like slushies i like slurpees if that’s what they’re okay i think what’s happening is it’s it’s either a slurpee or an icy yeah so slurpie and icy are just two competing brands of the same thing they are yeah they’re both like carbon they’re literally and what they are is just an extra sugary soda pop that they pour into an ice cream churner effectively right like a soft serve machine something that is cold but keeps it moving so it never clumps up and it remains nice and soft um but there’s like you know slushies could just refer to juice blended with ice i don’t like slushies i love icees i took my niece to the movies and i got an icy for the first time in maybe like 10 years dude and we enjoyed it i felt like i was a kid again i is i prefer icy has to me a more iconic branding cause they got the polar bear oh yeah it’s really the blue and blue and red little cups yeah but slurpee’s nicole now hold slurpees at 7-eleven they have come out with some flavors they also used to have a line of crystal light slurpees oh that’s that’s really funny oh that is all boy do they make your stomach hurt oh no no but i mean they have like dr pepper slurpees they got like monster slurpees yeah they’re very creative there’s some really cool flavors out there fat tuesdays in vegas i’ve always wanted to go and i’ve always wanted the cool little bottles but sometimes life just doesn’t work out for me in certain ways and that’s okay i don’t want to talk sometimes you can’t just get a half gallon of liquored up slushie i want it so bad right now oof oof so good so i would love that right now i went to a bar once in austin texas where they made slushy like blended drinks but out of like actual classic cocktails oh it’s like in manhattan yeah so they would literally look like a manhattan i got a uh a last word slushie which i think is last words what like uh lime chartreuse in gin was it good yeah i mean i didn’t eat sugar you got to be yeah they must have added sugar okay um you got to be a little bit lit to already get a last word slushy okay and so i was but i remember enjoying it i think i wrote a mechanical bowl nice it was good it was good all right another okay here chloe chuan says add ketchup to jarred pasta sauce for flavor boost sometimes yeah yeah sometimes yeah or just you know pinch a little bit of sugar a little bit more sugar than you think listen ketchup it’s just it’s just what tomato paste sugar vinegar i like i like really acidic pasta sauces yeah i like sugary bosses this is i mean this is a very filipino move yes you know chloe don’t know if you’re filipino you’ve got any filipino friends you’re a filipino in a past life but ketchup in ketchup and spaghetti big filipino move uh i just think it’s really delight man i think it’s good too i recently had prince street pizza sorry i recently had prince i can’t even say it princess it was really good it was it was like their sauce was really sweet though it worked so incredibly well and sometimes the sweet tomato sauce is like the business i agree i mean we made a tomato sauce that was so sweet that we used as like an orange chicken glaze and that was a delight that was a delight yeah put sugar in your tomatoes yes next up we got at unhandy underscore gosling baked lays are a delicious and valid form i can’t even read this with a straight face valid form of potato snack they don’t deserve the shade y’all throw on them i don’t like them i want to believe this i know they exist but i don’t like them i want to believe them so much and i just i just don’t i uh i don’t know is there any way you can like reframe it in your mind to not think about their much more delicious fried counterpart they taste like fabric you know what i mean don’t they taste like fabric to you yeah it tastes like if you air fried a lint sheet yeah that’s a big place exactly yeah the only way i could imagine if you crushed it up and like battered like a chicken you know what i mean yeah yeah because it’s you know kind of taking on the flavor of it it’s the only way other than that get it out of it baked lays taste like if somebody tried to make like a kosher chip for passover oh my gosh you know what i mean yes but kosher for passover chips are really good but yeah i know what you’re saying i understand it’s like if an alien was like potato chips yeah yeah and then they even printed it out on a sheet that’s what this is we had something in the kitchen the other day that was um it was like a maple flavored pancake syrup but from china and it was like it was like you’re google translating a sentence four or five times then it comes back kind of unrecognizable it was almost like i see and i’m sure there are tons of examples like this in america and i’ve you know watched a lot of like tik toks and stuff about people you know crapping on the international foods in american grocery stores um but that’s what this tastes like to me and that’s what lays tastes like to me yeah i’m not a fan not a fan not a fan maddie ice778 says fried pickle spears tastes better than fried pickled chips i can’t explain it yeah this is like dead wrong this is like the exact opposite of what’s correct right have you ever had a fried pickle spear no it’s brutal man i don’t think i would enjoy it oh it explodes with just boiling hot and then there’s so much there’s so much i know right there’s so much moisture inside of a pickle spear i can’t that like the breading just immediately soaks it up there’s no good way to do a fry i’m happy that you love this because the restaurants that have fried pickle spears on the menu they’re apparently doing it for someone and that’s someone who’s you matty ice but fried pickle chips make a fair amount of sense because you’re getting enough of that liquid evaporating no thanks in steam give me a good hard battered fried pickle chip to the point where the pickle almost like dissolves yeah i don’t even like pickle chips that much i’m sorry but like nah i can’t i love pickles more than anything else but like can’t get my head around it can’t wrap my head around it i’m into it i really like this one this one is interesting i’m gonna try this uh tomorrow morning at tk fade says hot honey and plain greek yogurt yum does that sound good yeah i need to take you to this greek yogurt place called go greek and you need to just have a field day what’s humphrey yogurt’s um you mean like humphrey bogart yeah yeah there’s there’s totally a yogurt chain in l.a called humphrey yogurt and i’ve never been there’s no way that exists i swear to god humphrey yogurt’s the thing but i do want to go to greek yogurt bar oh my god hungry yogurt where’s it at it’s probably in hollywood can we go you never take me anywhere josh i’m going to take van nuys boulevard baby let’s go josh i’m inside gelson’s i’m not going to do that i’m not going to do that humphrey yogurt i hate that name no i’m into it i’m into it unless humphrey bogart’s children pay to do that i don’t like it i think they would have to probably pay humphrey yogurt whatever i’m taking you to this place called go greek and we’re gonna see celebrities there and you’re gonna get your go you’re gonna get your greek yogurt it’s gonna be so good and you’re gonna love it what kind of celebrity what’s what’s your best celebrity food moment in l.a oh my gosh you had a good one um well yeah i used to work at a chocolate store and uh pierce brosnan winked at me what yeah wait what era what are our peers uh like thomas crown affair era i don’t know what that means she was saying tom’s crown of fire no he he he was like a little bit he was like a little bit like larger he was like more like burly and he had like a beard and his wife was there too and she was really pretty and uh yeah he just like he gave me change and then he like winked at me in a very sultry way and i was like nice i was like maybe like 20 nice remember what i was wearing i was wearing combat boots and like a short like a blue dress with yellow flowers on it pretty exciting that’s exciting stuff i saw the original uh joe millionaire in a johnny rockets didn’t believe that he was rich but he was a construction worker it’s a guy named evan yeah i remember joe millionaire getting fries into johnny rockets nice yeah he said hi yeah yeah hey man big fan and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or in hindi’s auto with the opinion casserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen see y’all next time [Music] our air fryer is actually a game changer our air fryer is actually a game-changing culinary invention did we all just forget that that i kind of forgot the the sound of my voice yeah i noticed that or did we all just figure did we just forget you keep slurring somewhere i know our air fryer is actually something doesn’t sound right about it today we discussed are our fryer our airfryer is overrated yeah nicole you do it you want me to do it yeah are you sure yeah yeah okay our air fryers my voice is very annoying right now today we discuss are air fryers overrated one more time more fluid oh this is a hot dog is a sandwich okay same fluidity but a little bit slower okay our air fryer are air fryer is actually a game-changing invention or did we all just forget about it their friends actually changed the game for good or are they just dumb you’d say it did airfryers actually change the game for good or are we just dumb and forgot that toaster ovens exist this is a hot dog it’s a sandwich oh yeah it’s a sandwich oh yeah it’s a sandwich oh yeah