(upbeat electronic music) – Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I’m Rhett. – Come on, man, don’t seem so. (Rhett chuckles) Don’t sound like you don’t wanna be here. – I wanna be here, I’m just nervous. – You’re nervous? – I just, yeah. – You’re anxious. – About so many thoughts. Processed so much information. – Well that sounds like you’re overwhelmed. – Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I’m Rhett. That’s how it came out. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, I’m Rhett! Does that sound more excited? I am excited. – Are you frustrated? – Uh, yeah, I am– – With the mouth– – The process. – I think that there’s so many thoughts in your brain that I think yeah, you’re overwhelmed with the process that’s led to this conversation. And I’m Link. This week at the round table– – Nice. – Of dim lighting. – Right. – We are continuing the discussion from a number of weeks back, surrounding the question do YouTubers watch YouTube, and in part one, this is part two, we said, I hate to break it to us and anyone else who might be disappointed but no, we don’t really watch YouTube as a form of entertainment and that just feels– – Wrong? – It feels wrong. – Ironic. – Ironic. – Surprising. – There’s a shame, there’s a shame associated with it. – Shameful. – So the question, the more operative question for part two, for me at least is, is there anything worth watching on YouTube for me? I’m not saying necessarily for you or for you, Rhett, but for me, and we asked you guys to suggest things that you thought would resonate with us that are on the YouTube platform. And then we started wrestling with the suggestions. I actually started wrestling with a lot of things. We don’t typically give assignments to ourself that then require a time commitment. So I started wrestling with that, like when am I gonna start watching? If I don’t watch YouTube videos, I’m such a schedule-oriented person and so focused, like when am I gonna get to it? That’s one thing I came up with and I’ll come back to the other things but I’m curious– – Well I can speak to– – I know you watched a lot more than I did. I did watch stuff and I got lots of thoughts. – I can speak to that exact same thing, so– – So let’s start there just with our overarching experience. – To put things into perspective in terms of how much visual entertainment I already have in my life, I think I realized over the past few weeks that it actually isn’t that much time. – Right. – What my life has become in terms of television, and I’m using television in the broad sense of stuff that you could see that moves on a screen. – Screentainment. – It’s screentainment. It really comes down to my wife and I making a decision to watch a series that we’re into before we go to bed, and that happens a minority of nights. And in fact, this week, we’re recording this on a Thursday and I have been spending most of my, and some work time as well kinda checking out all these suggestions. We’ll get into exactly how much I’ve enjoyed of each one or how far I went. But I only watched about 12 minutes of one episode of Ozark ’cause that’s something that Jessie and I have been watching on Netflix. Really like the show. ‘Cause I fell asleep 12 minutes in to Ozark, and I actually love the show and I still fell asleep 12 minutes in. – Did she keep watching? – She was like, you want me to cut this off? ‘Cause she looked over and I was like, you know, my eyes were beginning to close. But that’s actually not an unusual week. If we’ve got a lot of stuff going on to not be able to actually have time to sit down and watch anything, so we’re kinda constantly checking in with things like we talked about in part one, just for like research purposes, see what friends are up to and see what people are saying about the stuff that we’re creating, but there just wasn’t a lot of time, so it was a huge struggle for me to actually be able to digest the suggestions that were sent in. I mean, it was very, very, difficult, just ’cause I don’t have a lot of time to watch stuff. – We have structured our entertainment lives, our screen times to not include YouTube. So I wasn’t willing to sacrifice the shows that Christy and I are watching. We’re way behind watching Game of Thrones and I haven’t even started watching that Ozark show. – You gotta get to it. – And you know, I’m committed. I like to just do one thing at once. I don’t read multiple books at once, I got all types of problems. – You’ll be doing Game of Thrones for a long time. – Yeah. So there’s no, I just couldn’t find a lot of time to watch things and I think that is part of the issue is, well, I think the first question was, is there something that I can watch that you guys can recommend that will take the place of that thing that Christy and I are gonna watch before we go to sleep. And it was, that’s a very narrow and lofty– – I feel like that’s an unrealistic criteria. – Approach to bring to YouTube. – Because that’s something that our wives would agree on, so I’m stepping back from that and saying– – I don’t watch anything that we don’t watch together. – Right. If I had more time on my hands to watch things for entertainment purposes, like let’s say my wife was out of town and I was making personal, individual decisions about what I was gonna watch, like for instance, when my vasectomy was healing itself. That was like three days of just binge-watching stuff, and again, it was all television. I binge-watched a bunch of Netflix series and movies during that time, that recovery time. But if I were to do that now, the question is, after the research that I’ve done, dipping my toes into all these different, new series and shows and channels, would I supplement, like if I get a second vasectomy, ’cause you got two balls, you could get another one. Is that how it works? No it’s not how it works. If I get my vasectomy undone so I can procreate once again, and there is a recovery time, would I then incorporate these suggestions into the binge-watching? That’s the question for me. It’s not about what I’m gonna watch with my wife ’cause that’s too narrow. – Yeah, I actually think that I’ve learned some things and I’m gonna make some alterations. Because I feel like– – I was thinking that neck was too big on that shirt. – I’ve been missing– (Rhett chuckles) I’ve been missing some things. Some things that I need in my life. And I have found those things thanks to your recommendations. – Wow and you didn’t watch nearly as much as I did but you still feel like you– – Well I read descriptions and I like– – Oh you read descriptions. – I culled, and, well no, in order to prioritize what I felt would resonate with me. – Okay. – And– – Go ahead. – So yeah, I mean, I’m nervous saying that. I think that’s like saying I’ll get back on Instagram one day. – Well I wanna say a few things, not about specific, we’ll save beginning to talk about specific shows for in a second, just cover all the bases here. Few things that are true about the process, you guys suggested a lot of things. Obviously we did not watch everything you suggested. Just because we didn’t have time, but if more than a couple of people said something about it, we looked at it. That was sorta the criteria that we followed, and then, how far did I go? I watched enough to get the idea, but I did not, let’s say if somebody had 30 minute videos on their channel because that was the case with a number of people. – Yeah. – I did not sit down and watch one whole episode of anything ’cause I just was like, I’m gonna short change somebody, so I would kinda scrub through, get the idea, get the feel of the personality, get the feel of the style of the editing, look at the frequency of uploads, get the basic idea and I think I could draw a pretty good conclusion. But I don’t think this is a definitive conclusion as someone who has experienced the channel on a long-term basis so that’s one caveat. Other thing I wanna say is, these are not necessarily endorsements of the people behind the channel. We live in a problematic time with problematic people and sometimes you can say, “You should check out this video,” and then you find out that this person is already known to be problematic in some ways. I just wanna say that we have not done extensive research. This is very much just, you suggested something, we looked at a few of their videos and came to a conclusion about their content. So this is not an endorsement of anybody personally, and anything they have done or haven’t done. – Well I’m glad you said that ’cause I– – Okay, ’cause I know how y’all guys are! It’s 2018, I know! I been around in 2018, since the beginning of 2018. – (chuckles) Man, you were here for it since the top! – I’ve been here since January 1, 2018. So yeah, and also, just because we talk about it doesn’t mean that I think you should watch it but the majority of the things that I’m gonna talk about are things that I have something to say about them. That makes sense, doesn’t it? They made me think about something. – Can I just jump in and tell you the first thing that I decided to watch when I looked at the initial list that we made? – Yeah. – It was the abandoned malls. Where is that? – Defunctland? – No. I got it on my laptop list here, but I gotta scroll. – Dead Malls? – Yes, here it is right here. Channel called This is Dan Bell. – Oh yeah, mhm. I’m familiar. – ‘Cause I’m like Dead Malls. Man, I like the idea of that. Channel says informative tours of some of the most depressed shopping malls in the mid-Atlantic region and beyond. So I started watching one of these. – [Dan] Hey everyone, this is Dan Bell and this is my video tour of the Crystal River Mall located in Crystal River, Florida, and the Warren Mall located in Warren, Pennsylvania. – Kansas City wants to know, can I really eat this much food? Ice cream, ice cream, ice cream. – It was like a weird exercise in editing, voiceover driven, and I could tell, there was some clips from the inside of a mall but then it very quickly included these two women, like VHS-seeming footage from the 80s of these two women, I think they were beauty pageant contestants. It was like footage of them talking. So this was like found footage, okay? And then it was them, she was doing an interview about being on the slopes in… What’s that place called, not in Utah but in Colorado? Aspen, that’s it. My brain’s not working too well today. – Uh-oh. – Been watching too many YouTube videos lately. My brain can’t keep– – You’re in trouble. – Skiing in Aspen and she’s talking about it and then he cut in footage of this seemingly the same woman tumbling down the slopes and the music was very retro. A lot of great editing choices. I love comedic and odd editing. So I’m like, ooh, this can be good. It was like medium-paced. It was just weird! – You know, medium-paced. – And then it started to settle into tripod footage of slow pans of malls that are open for business– – But pretty much dead. – But nobody’s there. And then he’s got, he’s added a layer of voiceover where he’s giving commentary of, “When the JC Penny “first came to this mall, and it’s gonna leave “at the end of the year so if the Dick’s Sporting Goods “doesn’t come in, they’re really in trouble.” And it’s very dry. – Oh I watched plenty of it. – Oh you watched it? – Oh yeah. – And I was like– – I know you didn’t watch much. I’m letting you talk about this one. (chuckles) – So Mr. Dan Bell, I gotta give it to you, whether that’s your real name or not. I think you’re brilliant. Your sensibility, comedically and creatively and otherwise, I’m loving you. I just don’t, and I really enjoyed it. I just don’t know where that fits into, I just don’t have a place in my life to keep going back to that. I wish I did. – That is the operative question. – I got so much joy from the fact that somebody had this idea and then went with it, not just for one video that was just a few minutes, but a video that was, I think it was a 15 minute, could have been a 20 minute video. – Some of them were very long, yeah. – And then he does a lot of ’em. – And he doesn’t just have that, he has another series. Two other guys, he may be with them, but I think it’s just two other guys go to these dirty hotels and do basically– – I looked at the channel and I saw that. – Reviews of really nasty hotels. – They had a black light and I saw the trailer for that and there was stuff that they find using a black light and I was like, uh, this one’s not as much for me. – Okay, well, I wanna tell you what I think about that and then a lot of things that are very much like that and how I think it fits in, in a second. First we do wanna let you know that you can grab this Mythicali-tee that I am wearing. This is, which one is this? The ConnectiviTee. – We’re so excited about– – So excited. – These three tee shirts, the Mythicali-tees. – Yeah it might already be sold out because– – I hope it’s not sold out. – These are moving very quickly. I don’t think we’re gonna be making any more. I mean– – We don’t know. Why would we know? It’s not like we’re in charge. – We’re excited about bringing you guys new designs as opposed to just getting into something and just producing it forever, so, we’re experimenting with new things. It’s more likely than not that when we come out with new things that unless it’s like a mug that says Good Mythical Morning on it, it’s gonna come out, it’s gonna be cool, and then it’s gonna be gone. So, these are cool right now. They may already be gone, I don’t know, but I got one. (laughs) Suckers! I got one! – Go to Mythical.store, support internetainment. Express yourself, have fun on your body. With clothes. – Have fun on your body. – Have fun on your body. – With your clothes on. (Link chuckles) – Can you? Are you gonna tell me something you watched because I’m curious what’s the first thing you went to? – Well this spreadsheet is no longer organized in the way that it was but Dan Bell was one of the first ones. – It intrigued you as well. – I took a peek at every single thing that made it into our spreadsheet. And I remember coming to the conclusion that This is Dan Bell, Dan Bell has an incredible sense of humor. This is something that is very interesting to me, but then I always asked the question, and this is the question that I’m gonna ask about all this is, am I compelled to watch this? If I got home tonight and my wife was like, “I’m gonna go hang with my friends,” and I had just unstructured personal creative time, would I choose to go to his channel for non-research purposes and I don’t, it has nothing to do with the content, ’cause the content is great. It just has to do with the fact that I am more drawn to these things that fit a certain set of criteria which I actually, I tweeted this to get, I wanted to make sure that I left no stone unturned. A lot of people criticized the tweet because they were like, you’re setting up criteria that doesn’t apply to YouTube videos and I did that on purpose because I put the criteria on the stuff that I was looking for that applied to the stuff that I was already watching to make sure that YouTube wasn’t producing something that already fit the criteria of the stuff that I watch every night so I said– – Which is? – Please give me your recs of YouTube content that fits the following criteria: number one is scripted/narrative. Which I learned that a lot of people do not know what those words mean. Number two, it’s not on YouTube Premium because I was already familiar with everything on YouTube Premium. Three, it’s not a stand-alone video, because there’s lots of scripted sketches, but rather a story across multiple videos, and four, it’s regularly and currently being updated or scheduled because I want it to be something that I could point people to and there be something new to expect, like I can anticipate the next season of a show. And I am gonna go through some of the stuff that people suggested. First of all, people suggested stuff, lots of people suggested stuff that was unscripted. Documentary series, reality series, that kinda thing. – Which that’s fair game for the overall exercise, but you were trying to narrow it down. – I was specifically trying to go– – Because of the other stuff we’ve already looked at. – Yes. So… – Hit me with something, man. What’d you watch? – I’m gonna go on to one that fascinated me that I’m calling this the niche interest category. Let’s stay in that. AntsCanada. – [Host] Gather round AC family, and let’s learn about the amazing ways of ant colony fusion and ant war. – Okay, this is a dude, I guess he’s in Canada. Maybe just the ants are in Canada but I assume they’re in the same place. He has colonies, multiple colonies of ants. And he plays God with ants. – What do you mean by that? – Meaning, say for instance, he has a fire ant colony that he calls the fire nation. And he has cameras in there filming what they’re doing and then he floods the nest with water and does a voiceover. He basically gets all this footage of him flooding the nest with water and then trying to figure out how are the ants going to respond? So it is like a story, right, and then he does this voiceover and shows you all the footage together and shows you how the ants responded and I have to say that it was captivating, fascinating, mesmerizing. – Well-done, well edited? – Yeah, I mean, it was not done to the degree that it would be done if he had really high dollar nature photograph cameras that were like up inside the colony and stuff like that. It still feels like it’s a dude with a camera, but he’s getting very close to these ants. I mean, I didn’t find myself being frustrated with the footage if that’s what you’re getting at. – Yeah. – And it was, it’s pretty slow-paced. We’re talking like 20 minutes to tell the story of ants. But it’s regularly updated, lots of people watch it. That fire ant nation thing had over two million views I think if I’m recalling correctly. – Did they survive? You’ll have to watch to find out. – I’m not gonna do a spoiler. But that, what you talked about, Dan Bell and then AntsCanada and then there’s a bunch of other ones to throw in here that we can go into in a second. I just was like, this could only exist on YouTube. YouTube has created a platform for a dude to collect ants and tell stories about them on his own terms and on the ants’ own terms for a very interested audience and a very faithful audience. And AC fam I think he calls them, AntsCanada fam. – Okay. – I was like that right there is a beautiful thing. I already knew this existed. I knew that these niche interest, very, very niche interest communities existed but to see it in action and actually sit down and enjoy it, it was like, a lot of light bulbs went off and I was like, well of course this is what I’m finding. Something that could not and should not exist in any sort of traditional place. It is a YouTube thing exclusively. – But you don’t see yourself going back there. – No, I saw all I needed to see. That’s the thing, and I enjoyed it. But do I care about what happens with the fire ants next week? No, I don’t. Lots of people do though. AC fam’s gonna be okay, you know what I’m saying? But Rhett’s not gonna be a part of AC fam and I feel like I should be ashamed of that, but I’m just being honest. – There’s another channel. Is it not called Human? I mean does he own youtube.com/human? We gotta check that, there’s no way. – That’s just the name of his channel. – That’s just what he called it. – I don’t know what the actual URL is. And see this is one that I should, this is one that I should go back to. – Yeah, description. Wood cutting videos by a guy who loves wood cutting. And so I click on this and first of all, there’s other videos on his channel. It’s not highly formatted but it’s a guy who climbs trees, he prunes and trims and cuts down trees or limbs off of trees as an employee of a company which he does not appear to own or be in charge, he’s just a guy with a chainsaw who works amongst a team of people. – Are we getting him in trouble? (chuckles) – I don’t know how much permission he has. He’s like in people’s backyards– – And it’s very well thought out. – He’s got a gopher on his helmet. – He’s got a first person perspective and then like a ground perspective of what he’s doing and he puts the videos up side by side so he’s cutting this limb down and then you see from the street view the limb falling down from the tree. (chainsaw revs) (tree crashes) – But there’s a lifestyle vlog element. Like, there were clips in the one video that I watched of him, he’s like with the other team members and he’s like, “It’s raining today. “You guys excited? “We’re gonna get out there, we’re gonna do this,” and like, he got a response from one of his, a guy that he works with and then he’s off. He’s like, “All right, come take a look. “We’re going into the backyard. “This is the tree,” and then, you know. Some of them get millions of views because– – Things happen. – Because things happen, like something went wrong and he– – Things go wrong, yeah, they get more views. – Yeah, I don’t think anybody died. But that was a lifestyle vlog of a guy cutting tree limbs. – I’m a wood lover, right, you know that. I’ve made it very clear. I watched a couple of these views. I was like, this is very well done. This is the best way I could think to approach cutting down trees and filming it and putting it on YouTube. – Yeah, you have no notes. – No notes. And then I was like, but, am I gonna come back and watch more of these? (sighs) – Even if it got more personal, I don’t think I would come back. I can tell you’re not coming back. – Don’t think I’m coming back. – I mean I think about, I think about daily vloggers who I never watched but from everything that happens in their lives, you feel like you know them and I understand feeling like you’re a part of somebody’s life on a daily basis– – But have you ever followed somebody like that? – No. – I’ve never followed somebody like that. Which is, again, this is another aspect that, this is sort of like a macro conclusion that we would eventually get to, we’ll go ahead and say it now. YouTube is incredibly personality-driven. It’s not format-driven first, it’s personality-driven first. Even though we are talking about very niche things, you’re still kind of understanding and exploring these niche things through the personality of someone who is kind of in charge of the whole thing and is letting into their life. And that’s super appealing and I think that’s even with what we do, you probably got into what we do based on one thing you saw. It might have been way back in the day with a music video, it might have been an episode of GMM, it may have been this podcast. It may have been something else we did like Commercial Kings or Buddy System. But chances are you stuck around not just because you liked what we did, because you liked us in some way. And that is an incredible thing that is very specific to YouTube. And then I just started thinking, do I just not like people? What’s wrong with me? I can’t commit to any person to the level that I would say I actually wanna know what’s happening in their life every single day and I wanna keep going back. Like, it’s just not something, and I think it may be it’s just a generational thing that I missed some boat, some young boat. I missed the young boat. – It’s obviously valuable and compelling. – ‘Cause even when it’s something that I’m interested in genuinely, but you know– – Well that guy was just, I didn’t get the impression that in between him cutting down limbs, you also started to learn about stakes in his private life. – But if I actually– – His wife’s pregnant or something like that. – If I was cutting down trees on a daily basis and needed pointers and people to compare with, I might keep going back. – That’s a tutorial. – For a functional standpoint. And then maybe I would get into the personality. We can move to another category ’cause I wanna keep moving. Just a few other things we found in this niche interest, just ’cause it’s entertaining. Defunctland, the thing I mentioned, this is basically history of extinct theme parks and now they’re themed entertainment experiences. Like there’s an episode about the Nickelodeon Hotel. Then there’s one called Steve1989MREInfo. (chuckling) That’s the name of the channel. And this guy– – Yeah yeah yeah. We shouted him out on GMM. – Just does MRE taste tests. Getting even more niche, there’s a channel called The Great War that tells the story of World War I as it unfolded week by week. – 100 years ago today, on July 28th, 1914, the empire of Austria-Hungary declared war on the kingdom of Serbia. – So literally when they started this series, they were like, it’s week one in World War I. Here’s what happened in week one and then every week they updates it and you’re following along with the World War and it’s this incredibly detailed, hosted by one guy as far as I could see with the ones I watched. Like history buff video that I was mesmerized by, but I was kinda mesmerized by the concept but I was like, I’m not interested in following the World War week by week but you know what, lots of people are. – Yeah and I haven’t watched Ken Burns’s documentaries. I watched some of them but I don’t find myself continuing to go back a lot. So something even more in-depth, I get it, but it’s not for me. – I’m absolutely amazed by it and I understand why it exists and maybe there is something that I’ve yet to find that I would, I mean, I like to eat beans. I’m all about beans but could you really have a channel about beans and if you did, would I continue watching it even though I love, I like eating beans. But I can’t eat the beans I see on the screen. That rhymes. It’s like Dr. Seuss all of a sudden. – Yeah you can make that show. But you wouldn’t watch that show. – (sighs) That is the problem, isn’t it? I wouldn’t watch it. Gosh. – You wouldn’t watch it. – I feel guilty. Oh another thing I wanna say, speaking of feeling guilty, we’re not telling who recommended these things just because multiple people did and so, we would just forever be mispronouncing usernames, so thank you for everybody who participated. Sorry we’re not calling you out for recommending these. Okay, let’s move onto what I’m calling the TV category, ’cause I think this is an interesting thing, the fact that there are shows on YouTube that are essentially replicating something that would exist on television. So we just talked about something that would only exist on YouTube that’s based on a niche interest that we’re saying that while it’s great, we would not go back to them. We haven’t found that thing yet, but then there’s the things that you could find elsewhere but there are YouTube versions of them. – Brave Wilderness. With Coyote Peterson from what I’ve been told gets maimed, bitten, chewed up, spit out, any other uncomfortable verb. (grunting) (suspenseful music) – Oh it’s sucking my arm! Oh my gosh! (winces) – You all right? – Oh my God, it is really bad! – With an amazing ability to talk his way through it. I would definitely sit down with my kids, like Lincoln, I’m sure Lando would love it. I haven’t done it. I know Lincoln’s watched a few clips on his own. But if we’re having some family hangout time, it’s like, hey let’s watch some videos. Let’s watch some Brave Wilderness videos. Absolutely we could do that. – He’s the modern-day Steve Irwin. – Yeah, I mean, we sat down and watched that Bear Grylls show. Let’s watch Coyote Peterson, absolutely. – And you might say that he actually has innovated on the platform because of the way he’s letting himself get bit by things. It’s something that hasn’t been part of traditional, what kind of TV, nature TV. – Mhm. – So he’s putting himself in the situation, putting himself in harm’s way in a way that hasn’t been done before. – Incredibly well-done. – In a Steve Irwin way. – In a Steve Irwin way, incredibly well-done. He’s very engaging and if I see one of his videos trending and it’s like, oh that’s something that’s crazy, I will watch it and be entertained by it, but again, does it pass the test of if I’m home alone, I make the choice to watch it? Not yet. It doesn’t. – Yeah. – It’s great. – But that is going on my family list. – Okay. – I’m making that decision, so that’s one of ’em. – Mind Field, lots of people talked about that. This is the YouTube Premium series by Michael Stevens, Vsauce. – Imagine being confined to a 10 by 10 foot room in complete isolation. I will be staying in this room for three days. – This again, this is something that is very well-done, but there’s other series on Netflix, Amazon, traditional television, Science Channel that kinda check a lot of the same boxes. I have a personal connection to Michael because he’s been on the show and I think he sat right here at this table. – Yep. – And I like him a lot and so I’m more invested in watching it because I’m like oh, there’s a guy that I know who’s hosting it. – Well I was staying at my brother and sister in-law’s house and JB said he had watched a few of them. I’m like oh yeah! I wanna watch some of these and we binge-watched, we had a few hours and we were just watching ’em. And it’s great. I mean, I’d watch those with the kids too because there’s lots of stuff to learn and they’re done in a very smart way and he’s very, it’s very immersive, so it’s very well-done. Some are better than others depending on the topic. But that’s true of any one of those shows, but again, I highly recommend that. If I hadn’t binge-watched it that would also be on like, in the family viewing, hey we got an hour. We’re not gonna sit down and watch a movie, but we can sit down and watch something together. I actually think it could improve our family time if I started making a list of those things because we just find ourselves going into our own rooms because Lily wants to watch The Office by herself or Lincoln wants to be on his phone or play video games. It’d be a way to bring us together. – Yeah. – So that’s on my list, I would say. – Buzzfeed Unsolved. – This week on BuzzFeed Unsolved, we discuss what may be the oldest mystery in the United States. – A lot of people talked about this. And I did watch a couple of episodes, and I was interested in it and to the same degree that I would be interested if I was in a certain mood while sorta flipping through Netflix suggestions and I saw some weird Unsolved Mysteries type show. But typically the way that I would do that is if I was kinda trying to waste a little time before we watched a movie or we watched a scripted series and I had a little time and I was like, I got 20 minutes, I’ll check out this thing about this conspiracy and I would sit there and watch it. And to me, it checks the exact same box. I don’t think that it’s any better or worse than something, and again, I don’t have anything to compare it to, my guess is– – I’ll compare it to something loosely is Dark Tourist which is guy from New Zealand hosting a show on Netflix where, it’s a docu-follow series, he watches, he goes to creepy/dark places that you can buy a ticket to basically. That are really weird. Very well-done show, I highly recommend it if you’re into dark tourism stuff. But again, I just had an hour. I was sitting on the couch and a couple of kids were in there, I was like, I’ll find something. I’m gonna go to Netflix and then I’m gonna find something. So I wasn’t browsing on YouTube because I didn’t have any hope that there would be anything that could like, we could have a shared experience for an hour. – Right. – You know, so, I might add that one to the list. I’m not as interested in it. Britton, my cousin, he’s like super into ghosts and unsolved mystery type stuff and he loves that show. – BuzzFeed Unsolved. – Yeah he told me that. – Okay. – But again, there’s not, I think, well I got an hour. I’m gonna go on Netflix. It’s not, I got an hour, I’m gonna go on YouTube. It’s still appointment viewing and I think that’s what really the question is is, what on YouTube is gonna become a part of my appointment viewing? – Well I am gonna get to some stuff that I think does pass the test for me. But I’m not there yet. This is sort of an outlier that just fascinated me. A guy named Brian Jordan Alvarez who is an actor that I have seen in things. He’s been in a bunch of things so when you see his face, you’re like, oh yeah I know that guy. He’s doing a really, really fascinating thing with his YouTube channel. He’s basically– – Does it involve ants? – Nope, no ants. It’s not even in Canada as far as I can tell based on the landscape, it looks like Los Angeles mostly. He is doing traditional scripted content but he’s putting it directly on YouTube. So, a lot of people mention– – Sketches? – He does sketches, he does stand-alone sketches, but a lot of people do stand-alone sketches. His sketches are actually funny, which is very difficult to find on YouTube in my opinion. But what I will say that he’s doing that is even more interesting. He has a series that, I think he’s done a couple of seasons called The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo. – Okay. – And– – This is a character. – It’s a character that he plays and then he’s got another actor, a woman that is in a lot of the things with him. They’re kinda like a comedy duo together, they’re in a bunch of the videos together. – Maybe I can hit on him a little bit or something. – Yeah yeah, turn him off, you know? Say like, “Hey girl,” and, “I don’t get baseball.” – Like, “My car is broken and I don’t know how “to change the tire.” – He’s also an established actor. Like if you go to the IMDBs for both of these people, you see, oh, they’re very busy. They’re working actors. – Mhm. – But they still put all this creative effort into these series. This is a web series that, okay, it doesn’t have, it obviously doesn’t have the budget of something that’s on a traditional network or even something that’s on a YouTube Premium. But you kinda very quickly sort of forget about that as soon as you start watching it. So it kinda has a little bit of a web series feel to it but it’s just well-acted, well-written, and he’s a compelling character, she’s a compelling character. There’s probably other stuff like this out there but you guys recommended it so I checked it out. And then the thing that kinda blew me away was the fact that just recently, he posted an entire movie, a feature-length movie called Grandmother’s Gold which is like an hour and 20 minute film that, I mean, they put a lot into this. Now, it probably submitted to film festivals. I don’t know what else happened with it but at some point he decided, I’m just gonna put it on YouTube. So just very interesting that he’s doing things– – How many views we talking about? – That film, there’s maybe a couple hundred thousand. It’s only been up for a few weeks. Which is impressive for something that long, and then the series itself, I think the Caleb Gallo series gets hundreds of thousands of views, maybe even a million on an episode or two. So there’s a lot of people watching this. But he’s doing something incredibly ambitious. It’s notable because we know how difficult it is to create scripted content and we basically just made the decision that we’re not gonna do it unless we get the kind of budget that we can get from somebody like YouTube Premium. Because it’s just too hard. – Right. – But he’s– – Are you gonna start watching his channel? – I know that if, basically the way I feel about his channel right now, and this applies to the sketches too, it’s just like, okay, if I am like, I wanna laugh right now. I specifically wanna laugh and I know I can go to this channel and get a laugh. Am I gonna sit down and watch that entire movie? Maybe. But am I gonna watch it as opposed to watching the Oscar-nominated movies that I haven’t gotten around to watching yet? If I do, it’s gonna be because I’m impressed by the gumption that this guy has to go out and make a film, but I’m not, if I haven’t yet seen an Oscar-nominated film or something that somebody’s recommending or something that’s poppin’ up on Rotten Tomatoes and is highly ranked, I’m probably gonna go to those features before I go to this self-financed thing that’s gonna end up probably ultimately, if I compare them apples to apples, it’s not going to be as good. Okay, but I’m super impressed. Let me just say I’m super impressed. And I have no doubt that he’s gonna end up doing something that you’ll know that name. – Get to something that you’re not only impressed by, but is gonna impact your habits. – Well this is another outlier and this already has impacted my habits is what Ethan and Hila are doing with their podcast. – We’re discussing all the taboo. – [Ethan] Dude we’ll break an arm. Tonight on 60 Minutes. – Really with their channel, h3h3 Productions, I mean we said it when we were on their podcast that they’re some of the most genuinely funny people on YouTube, it’s just like effortlessly funny. Not trying too hard, it just happens. And everything Ethan says is just funny to me. And then what he decided to do with the H3 Podcast, I think of his podcast in the way that I think about like Joe Rogan. If Joe Rogan’s got somebody on that I’m interested in, that I’m interested in the way that he’s going to talk to them– – Yeah but that’s a podcast. That’s not what we’re talking about here. – It’s YouTube content, that’s all I’m saying. And so I’m saying that it’s an outlier that I wanted to acknowledge– – But if you’re gonna listen to it, you’re gonna listen to it through a podcasting app, you’re not gonna watch the video. You. – Yeah, I probably would enjoy it the way I do most of my podcasts which is by ear. – Right. – So you’re making me take that one out, okay. I’m just trying to be helpful. Okay, all right. I feel like I found some things that are changing the game and I feel like I can commit. I feel like I can commit. – Give it to me. It’s what I been waiting for. I got a couple too but they’re gonna be different than yours I think. – There’s other examples of these. And both of these guys have been around for awhile. But I had never really dug into the degree that I did. And I’m calling the category mock vlog, okay? So this is people making what looks to be internet content that would typically be unscripted lifestyle stuff, but then when you dig in, you realize that it’s all scripted and actually that’s what makes it funny. Or it’s loosely scripted. Sugar Pine 7. Okay, so, these guys won show of the year, right? They beat us in show of the year last year. – Yeah. – Probably happen again this year, someone will beat us. We’re always nominated, never winning. Always a bride. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. That’s what we are. But so, these guys are doing something, the guy who kinda started the thing and multiple, a couple of the guys were– – On SourceFed, huh? – They were employees at SourceFed and the very first vlog is SourceFed has ended. And he does this, it’s kind of a vlog meets Arrested Development meets Curb Your Enthusiasm. It’s basically, he’s got a camera, he’s filming his friends. Everybody’s funny, all the personalities are funny. They’re doing absolutely ridiculous things that are obviously set up and obviously planned and scripted but they’re all improv’ing. And then he is offering his VO commentary. – [Narrator] I could tell Kim lost track of what I was saying. He was looking at the car. – And it’s this hybrid thing that doesn’t exist anywhere else that I have seen and is genuinely very well done and then they– – Are they creating scenarios? Like, oh I lost the TV remote. Let’s see if we can find it. – Yeah, very, very. It’s all planned out. Which interestingly, one of the things we were talking about is like, you guys probably know that all of your favorite reality shows, if you happen to watch Keeping Up With the Kardashians you know that everything that’s gonna take place in an episode, it’s already determined before it happens. It’s like, okay well in this episode, you guys are gonna go to this party and this is the kinda, there’s room for things to move around a little bit but it’s all pretty much planned. It’s interesting they’re doing– – You’re gonna walk in this room. You’re not gonna know where the remote is, ’cause a producer has hidden it. – But theirs is, obviously, theirs is intentionally funny, not unintentionally funny like a lot of reality television is. So it’s just one of those things that I found– – It’s a blurred genre in a very good and creative way. – It’s super innovative. They’re very committed to the YouTube game, like regularly giving you videos. They have a podcast, they have a schedule. They’re reliable in that way. We met some of the guys at the Streamys last year. And I was like, I don’t know, again, it doesn’t mean anything that we don’t know, but we didn’t know exactly who they were at the time. I looked at the stuff then, was impressed with it, but as I dug in, I was like yeah, innovative, so kinda like changing the game, establishing a new genre. Playing the YouTube game very well, so in other words, it’s not like this disconnected, too cool for school kinda thing that can happen with, sometimes there’s people who do YouTube things. Some of the people that I think we’ll end up talking about, where you kinda feel like they’re above YouTube. These guys are not too cool to be above the YouTube game. They’ve got a banner that says this is what happens every single day on our channel. And then, lastly, and most importantly for me, it’s just genuinely funny. Like they’re trying to be funny and they are funny. So okay I found one. – And McJuggerNuggets does the same thing. – Yes, that’s the other one I wanna talk about. This guy’s been around for longer than Sugar Pine 7. I’ve heard this name, this guy’s in Pennsylvania I believe, and he has for years– – We met him too, dude. – When did we meet him? – We were introduced to him two years ago, three years ago. Just in passing at something. – I just feel like such a douche right now that you’ve pointed that out. Just such a douche. I mean, I am a douche, that’s fine. I own it. I own it every day. – McJuggerNuggets, I just remember the name from when we met him, but– – Well this guy– – I hadn’t seen the videos and I went and looked. – He is doing something that is so ambitious. I was fascinated equally by this but in a different way. Because he is doing these vlogs that they seem even more traditional just on the surface, like lifestyle vlogging. It’s just like oh, I’m just following this guy’s day. But then you pretty quickly realize that, no. This guy’s mom and dad and brother and other people and friends and other YouTubers sometimes, they’re all a part of this and it’s all scripted, but they’re all incredible performers. Like you can still tell that it’s kinda like, I just got my dad to do this, but it’s I got my dad to do this in a way that, it’s not just funny because he can’t act. No, it’s funny because he can. – Well the one that I remember is, his dad got mad, something about, there was a gaming console that ended up getting taken outside and smashed by I think his dad, or. (bleep) – Dad! – Holy (bleep)! (screams) – I think he had something– – There was some conflict. – I think he had something go very viral at some point years ago. – That was years ago. That’s the one that I watched ’cause you can sort by popular, but I was very intrigued. – But again, a lot of things that are gonna get me excited are things that are genuinely funny, like I’m giving the guy no benefit of the doubt. He just is actually funny and it’s engaging and it’s super ambitious, like, oh, and you know what, he– – In what way is it ambitious? I don’t know what you mean. – 40 minute long vlog that is not, it’s a scripted thing. That’s like 40 minutes, at multiple locations. – It’s not him and a web camera, this is multiple locations. – It’s all shot through the lens of a camera. (chuckles) – Him lifestyle vlogging. – As if he was vlogging but there’s all these situations and all these scenes that get set up. He’s actually up for a Streamy as well, I think. – Well that’s encouraging. – Potentially for best comedy, or, he may be in a category that we’re in. Anyway, highly recommend it. He’s got older series that you can get into and then again, it’s just this guy who made this decision to be like I’m not gonna go to LA and try to do this traditional thing. Maybe you did, I don’t know. I’m gonna be in Pennsylvania and I’m going to do something that he’s kinda living in the constraints of low budget video but pushing it in this really innovative, original way that’s actually funny. – An emphasis on story. – Yes. – Comedy? – Yes. – And pulling it off? – Yes. – Seemingly, with just relatives and friends and one camera. – Yes. – What are you gonna do about it? – I am tempted to, there’s a lot of content. Sugar Pine 7 you kinda feel like you can just sorta, all right, I can just kinda get in. I can just watch one of these. It’s not too long. I don’t have to be there from the beginning. With McJuggerNuggets, I kinda feel like I have to be like, all right pick the series and start from the beginning. But it would be a lot of time. – Probably pick the current one ’cause I think– – I kinda wanna pick the one that’s up for the Streamy. – I mean, I wanna for one time in my life experience the excitement of waiting for someone to release a video that continues a story. I’ve never done that on YouTube. And if you’re telling me he can do that, then my interest is piqued. – And I think the one that’s up for a Streamy, it’s like a murder mystery. The first person perspective dude at the beginning of the whole thing is run over by a car. – Can it really be as good as Ozark to you in your limited amount of time? – No, I don’t think so. I don’t think it can. I don’t think that it– – Not that that’s a comedy. It’s an unfair comparison, of course. – I don’t wanna get there yet. That’s gonna be where we land, right? – Okay, okay. – What else do you have? I’ve got more, I can keep going through ’em, but– – I have never watched a Casey Neistat video. (Rhett sputters) Ever. ♪ It’s up to you ♪ ♪ New York ♪ – Like I met the guy, I liked him. I heard his story. I was intrigued. I’ve always respected him but I treated him like every other person on YouTube which is like, okay I’m gonna watch the thumbnails. I don’t have time to watch the videos, I’m gonna watch the thumbnails and then they started making the thumbnails where it would start to tick through different images in the video. – And you watched the video. – That’s even better. That’s even better. And okay, I started to understand a little bit or I thought I did. But I said, you know what? I’m just gonna sit down, I’m gonna watch a couple of his videos. And it’s an interesting thing because I’m a huge fan of his now, it’s just so easy because he’s genuine, he’s creative, he’s smart. Not much of an emphasis on comedy. It’s so weird for me telling you about a Casey Neistat video. I’m the only one who hasn’t watched one. And I definitely think, I mean like, I appreciated the variety from video to video, but just the creativity quotient is so high that it’s so inspiring to me from an artistic level. And it’s current. He’s talking about things that are happening, like this video went viral. This guy on the subway shaving. I was going to retweet, and he tells a great story. He’s masterful in the way that he presents things and then he makes you think, he’s like, I didn’t retweet this to get a laugh. And then I found out the follow-up story about this guy, and he’s talking about it. That’s just one that I watched, you know? He’s running and he doesn’t like the rain. He’s talking about what’s the best watch. – Sounds super exciting. (chuckles) No, I’m joking. – I mean, even something like that, it’s very engaging. But here’s the thing that happened to me. I go into work mode. I’m like, man, this inspires me. This immediately impacts how I approach what we create. And that’s why I have not and do not watch YouTube videos, because I’ll either waste my time with stuff that is not for me or I’ll find something that engages me creatively and I just can’t divorce it from the impact on my job and what we’re gonna create, and it’s like, I’ve never watched a Try Guys video. Never. – You’re strange. – Because I don’t feel like I can, I just can’t handle, I mean, Sturgill Simpson said that he did not listen to Jason Isbell’s album, and I’m not trying, I related to that. Well, you– – Okay. – What’s your problem? – But he said specifically why he didn’t do it. He didn’t wanna be influenced by it. – Exactly, and the influence it has on me is that– – It stresses you out. – It stresses me out, and it also makes me think, ’cause with my personality profile, I’m like, there’s always a better way to do what I’m doing and if I don’t change, this is all gonna slip away. So anything on YouTube that’s working, to me, and I felt it. I felt it well up inside of me even watching Casey Neistat video or the 30 minutes that I watched him. And I just felt like I couldn’t put enough of that aside to enjoy it as a viewer. But, I actually feel like he’s different enough, but also inspiring enough that there’s just the right amount of overlap that I could see me incorporating his videos into my daily or weekly routine. – Okay well to speak to– – Because I became a better person by watching. I became more inspired and that certainly counteracted any level of anxiety that welled up within me because I’ve got problems. – I had actually watched quite a few Casey Neistat videos, and I’ve always thought he was masterful at what he does. I usually wait until he’s talking about something that I’m interested as opposed to following it on a regular basis. But to speak to what watching these folks, especially as we get into the Sugar Pine 7, the McJuggerNuggets, the Casey Neistats, and we’re gonna keep going. What it does for me is it does make me anxious, it does make me stressed out. But mostly for me, it makes me frustrated. The thing that I get mostly is frustration, like a creative block, not from lack of knowing what we want to do but from feeling a little bit trapped, to be perfectly honest. So to expound on that, so with what we do with Good Mythical Morning, there’s a few things about it, right. One is, it’s not really our creativity on display, it’s our personalities on display, right? If anything, the creativity is coming from the people who make the graphics or the specific formulation of the episode which is something that we’re kind of overseeing as opposed to formulating ourselves. So we created this place where we could just be ourselves and make each other laugh and people are coming in and enjoying kind of our personalities and the jokes that we make and that kinda thing. But from a purely creative standpoint, crafting something, creating an experience where you’re thinking about every element of it, you’re thinking about the music and you’re thinking about the script, you’re thinking about the plan and then how that plan comes to fruition. That’s something that we have sort of, we funneled a bunch of that into Buddy System. It was frustrating that a lot of people weren’t able to see Buddy System because we feel like especially with the second season of Buddy System, it was just pure Rhett and Link creativity being just poured out, you know? – And I think it meets the criteria of your tweet, by the way. – It does, it does. And I recommend it. But when I see these guys innovating and doing things that are artful in a way, I’m like man, ah, I want to do more of that. Now, we’ll say that we’re constantly working on a lot of things besides GMM that are, they’re all designed to give us that opportunity, to create that kind of experience. It’s just the avenues that we’re exploring, things happen slowly, nothing’s a sure thing and that kinda thing but that’s the main thing. What we’ve chosen to do is to try to make those things happen in a more traditional sense, being financed in a more traditional way, as opposed to saying screw traditional methods of making it in Hollywood and just make stuff freely and independently on YouTube. Mostly because you really can’t do both things that we’re doing, we kinda would have to make a choice. We’d have to make a choice, are we gonna go back and do what we used to do with music videos and sketches or are we gonna keep doing GMM? It’s just with the way that things work and there’s only two of us, you kinda have to make a choice and GMM’s not going away anytime soon. That’s the anxiety that is created in me, the creative frustration that happens when I start watching things that are creatively inspiring. – But you could, but you don’t find yourself not watching for that reason. – No, no, no, no. I choose to watch to be frustrated by it. – But I actually feel like I could watch, I feel like I could watch DeFranco’s show because it would, I would be more informed, and it would help me engage with, the topics that he covers, I actually, just as a side note, I’ve never watched a complete Philip DeFranco video. – I probably watch Phil, honestly, I’ve probably watched him more than any other YouTuber. – There have been different focal points with individual stories but it’s all been one main story and that is the story of YouTuber burnout. – He’s constantly talking about something that– – And I can see the value. – I don’t know if I finish the video, but I go to the section where he talks about the thing that I’m interested in, ’cause I’m interested in his take on it. – Especially from a YouTube community standpoint, I’ve always felt guilty, A: not watching fellow YouTubers, but also not being an active part of the community. I actually got a charge last week out of watching videos about YouTuber burnout and talking about that. I was like, wow, I actually, I can see that I might start to carve out a place for YouTube as a viewer in my life because of the community aspect. I knew that on paper but I started to understand it because I felt passionately about what they were saying and their perspectives and it helped me form my own perspective, so I’m actually open to that and that’s something that we didn’t dive into too much here. I’m not saying DeFranco is my only place for that. And the stuff that Shane’s doing, which we haven’t talked about. – I wanna talk about Shane last, I’m saving that. – Is it has a lot of overlap with the community, but then engaging in terms of the creative way that he’s treating it. When I watched the Casey Neistat videos and I was just able to check my ego, I think I would like to have a relationship with him as a viewer. – Oh, well, I mean. I think I have his phone number, so– – (chuckles) No, not a professional relationship. A viewing relationship. – Okay. I’ll talk to him about that. (both laughing) – Yeah, I can definitely see that, you know, I could watch every single video he puts out. But I have to carve out, I don’t know when I would do that exactly in my life– – You’ll figure it out. You’ll have to put it in your calendar. – But that’s, yeah, I gotta put it in my calendar. – Let’s talk about what we’re calling the candy category. It’s not about candy but it is something that we could not categorize, but that we both loved and wanted more of. – Bill Wurtz. ♪ Still a piece of garbage ♪ – Now we knew about Bill Wurtz from several years ago when Ear Biscuits won best podcast, it was either the Webbys or the Shortys. It was in New York. – It was the Shortys. – I think it was the Shortys because you had to give a really short speech. – DJ Khaled was backstage, or Khal-eed? – Ear Biscuits won best podcast. It beat Radio Lab and our acceptance speech was about how our podcast is not better than Radio Lab and Radio Lab should have won. And then Al Roker got up and was like, “That’s the weirdest acceptance speech I’ve ever seen.” (Link chuckles) But that night, Bill Wurtz won something and then they played that– ♪ I’m still a piece of garbage ♪ And we were both like who is this guy? He also said something really funny when he got up there, so I’ve enjoyed his stuff, but then dug in again. – [Bill] More people come and there’s more farming and more people to make more things for more people and now there’s business, money, writing, laws, power. ♪ Society ♪ – It’s– – Surreal musical jingles with surreal visuals to accompany them– – So good. – With a certain splendid sound to his music sensibilities. – He’s got this recent song about Mount St. Helens and I mean, it’s just– – I will drop, I mean, this fills the slot that Bad Lip Reading is in, so this joins Bad Lip Reading that I will drop everything and watch– – If he’s got a new video. – A new Bad Lip Reading. We’re late to this game but I will drop everything and watch his latest– – Of course. – And I went on Spotify and all of his songs are on there. I’m like driving down the road listening to him. – So Bill Wurtz is– – And who’s the other guy? – Reliably great. And so sort of Bill Wurtz, if Bill were to take a dark turn, is Jack Stauber. – Still music and trippy visuals. – Trippy stuff, very comedic. I think Jack probably inserts himself a little bit more personally into the videos. Well, Bill does that too. – Yeah. – But it’s like a combination of music videos which are great, and animated videos that are just creepy and weird but also incredibly funny depending on what mood you’re in and it’s much more, at least, I hope I’m not wrong in saying this, it seems to be much more regularly updated than Bill Wurtz. He’s much more regular. It seems like he was doing a weekly video. – His isn’t just music but it’s also like surreal sketches with a very– – Animated stuff, yeah. – Pin pointed. – Jack Stauber. I think he’s in, the one that I recommend watching, it’s this animated one called PBJ which is about peanut butter and jelly. – Daddy, I said I only wanted jelly on the sandwich. – It’s just– – So funny. – I mean. – So specifically funny. – I mean you have to have a very specific sense of humor to like it but I loved it. – I mean the candy stuff is just bite-sized, whenever it hits your subscription box, you hear about it, you stop everything to watch it on your phone at any point. – And I would show that to all my friends and my wife and they would like it. So I would watch that with my wife but it’s a 30 second video in some cases. – Yeah, it’s a totally, it’s just, you’re standing in line somewhere, you know? I could have more of that in my life. Instead of just going on Reddit all the time. – Do you have anything else from the list that you wanna talk about ’cause I wanna save Shane for last and I have some strong opinions. – The thing I wanna save for last that can be next to last is us, I’m curious– – Hey, us. – If you weren’t us, would you watch Good Mythical Morning? So, let’s talk about Shane and then let’s talk about that and shut it down, ’cause I think we brought up that question in part one. Would we watch Good Mythical Morning if we weren’t in it? – We will answer that question before we’re done. So I talked about things that are innovative and mesmerizing and things that I can see myself going and committing to. – And you talked about Shane in part one a good amount. – But the thing that I will say again, and I don’t know how many parts we’re into the Jake Paul series by the time you listen to this, and I will say that I haven’t even watched part one yet because I’m saving it, here’s why. Because I know that I can sit down in my place, in my bed, with my wife before I go to bed and say, “Hey, I want you to watch this series with me.” And it is the one thing that I can without reservation be like (clicks tongue), she’s gonna be into this. Is what Shane has done with his approach to documentary on YouTube, again, I just, it kinda started the conversation of what else is there, and I’d say for the most part we pretty much found what we expected, we found really niche stuff. We found some people doing some really innovative things just based on the parameters of the platform. We found some really funny people. We found some people doing, basically just replicating what you could find on television. But Shane is doing something that I think is different for a reason because it is something you could find in terms of the format. There’s compelling documentaries. It’s become a huge part of our culture, entertainment culture, but he’s the only one doing it about YouTube and the way that is actually interesting to people who are part of the community, and has the access and the trust that you need to be able to have the conversations that I know that he had with Jake Paul. – I basically reached out to him and I was like, hey, if we do a series together, I want to really be honest about it and investigate. – And do it in such a timely fashion. So to be a part of the community but to highlight the community in a way that a professional documentarian would do traditionally, that’s something that doesn’t exist. He’s changed the game. Already said it, but that’s the one thing I can confidently say, that I’ve had to hold myself back from watching part one. It’s 40 minutes long! He’s got eight parts. I’ve had to hold myself back from watching it, because I was like, I gotta watch all this other stuff, and this is the one thing I’m gonna save and be like, Jessie, let’s sit down and let’s watch this together. So I still think that after this whole thing, I’m back to Shane is doing the most compelling thing on YouTube right now. There it is, I said it again, I already said it and I said it again. – And I know that I’ll like it when I watch it. And again, I– – Will you watch it? – Yeah, I’ve got some more internal work to do just to make sure that I’d just enjoy it. Like, it has nothing to do with his work, it just has to do with me. Like, I gotta stop working and saying, how does impact what we do? Or I wish, you know, it’s like… – Here’s my advice. – So yeah I can do that. – When you feel like you shouldn’t watch those things, just watch them and just take some notes so you process whatever it is that you feel like you wanna learn and apply to what we do, just take some notes. – And again, it’s in no way competition. I’m pretty clear about that, right? It’s not about competition, am I better or are we falling behind? – It just makes you feel like we have to make changes. – It’s not a comparison thing, it’s a, I actually do get inspired and then I feel hamstrung with, you know, do I have a place where I can apply… And that’s a funny thing to say when we could make anything we want technically. – Technically but not practically. – Right. – It seems like we could but practically, the answer is no. Okay. – Would you watch us? Would I watch us? It’s almost an impossible question. ‘Cause I know myself– – Yes and no. Okay, let me say, the no part, I’ll start with the no. I’ll start with the negative. – Well here’s the– – Okay, I won’t. – I’m not trying to cut you off, I’m just, go ahead. – The no part is– – I don’t want you to give me the answer and then I just have to say yeah, I agree. ‘Cause I don’t know what I think. If you know what you think, I have to figure it out by talking. That’s why I cut you off. – Okay, I don’t think we’re gonna think the same thing though. – I don’t know what I think. – Well then just let me talk and then think and talk in a second. – Because then I’ll just agree with you. – No you won’t. The reason I would not watch us is because I don’t watch anything on a daily basis. Because the structure that we created, which is actually the reason for the success of the show in many ways is the fact that we created a 10 to 15 minute experience and if you add more, you’re getting up to 20 minutes. Every single day that you can carve out and you know it’s gonna happen at a certain time. – Right. – My schedule does not allow currently for that window to be, there is no window. I don’t watch anything, the only thing that I do on a regular basis is during my drive in to work, I will listen to a podcast or a book on tape, Audible, and that’s the window and our show doesn’t fit. We have a podcast, but we’re making it right now. But GMM is not that so I don’t have a place for a daily video, so no I would not watch our show, as it is intended to be watched every day. That’s my no part. I have a yes part that I would watch. – And I think that everything you said is the reason why that would be a yes for me, because I know I could count on it. I could make it a part of my daily routine, like the way that thankfully so many people have, and so I could actually, again, you were joking about the calender but yeah it’s ’cause I’m so schedule-oriented that like, okay I could have a relationship with this show because I can count on it, and if it gives me something that I need, it’s just like when my grandparents, they’d watch Pat Sajak every night. It’s like after dinner that’s what we do. Sit down and watch the wheel spin. – Mhm, and I think a lot of people do that with our show. They watch it after dinner, with breakfast, whatever. As a family we don’t have those things that we watch. We listen to music while we eat dinner. We just made some different choices that don’t allow for Good Mythical Morning on a daily basis or something like it. – And I think the other thing we were getting at is that we’re so compelled by story. That’s a brilliant thing that Shane did, in a Making a Murderer kinda way, he draws you in a multiple part series and it fits a certain time slot that you wanna fill with story and intrigue and in that case, reality. And also learning. About a fascinating person or situation. So as far as the content of our show, I mean there’s not that much story. I think a lot of people, we put a lot of that in this podcast now, because it was part of Good Mythical Morning early on and I think that it’s a big part of this show now. – Yeah, right. – But that being said, since it’s not a big part of Good Mythical Morning anymore, I don’t know if I would watch because it’s missing the story. Which could be a reality story that has stakes, or with other people on YouTube that I’m open to. Or it obviously lacks a scripted story. So I don’t know if, ’cause I think that would be the next thing ’cause like would I be entertained by those guys? I mean I guess so. (chuckles) – Well that was, that’s the yes part I wanna say and this is some weird egotistical thing to say. But I can get to a place, and I do this sometimes when I’m watching back one of our videos. Now usually my motivation to go to one of our videos is to see what people are thinking about it. If I do that within the YouTube studio app, I don’t have to watch the video, I can just see the comments, but every once in while I’ll do that while I’m on the internet and I go to the video and it just starts playing. – Or if the kids are watching the video when I get home, I’ll watch an episode. – I find myself watching or if there was something particular about that episode that I wanted to see how it came across– – Something new. – Watch it back. But the majority of what we make on GMM, we don’t watch back. But I can put myself in the shoes of a person who is not us, just watching us and there are many times when I’m sitting there watching and I think to myself, those guys are funny. (laughs) – I think for me it’s, I like those guys. I like those guys. – I’m like, just like I said about, you’ll notice that all the people that I connected with, I said genuinely funny and I will say with a total egotistical pride, I think I’m genuinely funny. You, eh. No I think we’re both genuinely funny. I think the comedy that we’ve created is genuinely funny. Otherwise I would feel sick about what we were doing. – Yeah that would be horrible. – You know what I’m saying? – Yeah. (Link chuckles) – But that’s one of the reasons we keep doing it is I think we’re actually creating a genuinely funny, engaging thing that just because it fits a format that I couldn’t practically fit into my life right now doesn’t mean that I can’t, as a third party, look at it and be like, I get it. I understand why you’d wanna sit down and watch those guys. Got it, move onto the next thing. That’s how I would evaluate us. Pridefully. But unashamedly. At the same time. – What have we learned? Man. I don’t know what it is about this whole exercise– – Was tiring. I’m very tired right now. – I literally feel like exhausted. – Yeah, let’s go work some more though, ’cause that’s what we’re gonna do. – Yeah, yeah. I think that the Casey Neistat thing for me, I do acknowledge that it’s an odd thing to say, but I think it opens a door for me to say, okay, there may be room for personality-driven, high creativity quotient content in my life on a weekly basis that I could follow him and other people like him that I could find and have a viewing relationship, an ongoing viewing relationship with those people. And that’s a totally different approach than what I thought I was looking for, which was appointment viewing. When I would normally watch a documentary or like a scripted thing. – Yeah, I think the conclusion for me is I don’t see my viewing habits changing drastically because of this exercise. I think that I am going to primarily continue to enjoy scripted, and again, to clarify, when I say scripted I mean there was a script written for it. – Oh. – So story-based, scripted television and movies is gonna be my primary source of entertainment and then I’m going to do popcorn enjoyment of certain shorter things on YouTube, but the thing I’m adding, I’ve already talked about Shane, I think he could fill that spot, but I think that some of the people that I mentioned who are doing innovative things are, I feel like I’m on the verge of doing a deeper dive if I can find the time and I don’t think I would regret any of that. So I think I have been changed somewhat. But I wanna do this again. I feel like this is an exercise that we have to do at least annually. – Yeah and I do feel like, definitely before Good Mythical Morning, when we didn’t have a format that we put our head down and we could just focus on, I did watch a lot of YouTube videos in the name of research and impacting, I was a student of everything that was working on YouTube to impact what we were gonna do next. Probably a lot more than you and I think that’s why I have such a hard time turning that off. But I also feel like I can be engaged and inspired and it can affect our work and that’s also a good thing as long as I put it in its place but I’ve turned it off entirely for a few years and I’ve missed out. So I think that’s another aspect of, I can crack that door back open. Thank you for helping us do that with all of your suggestions and for hanging with us. Hopefully you’re not exhausted having listened to us. I actually feel bad at the end of a podcast saying, “Man, I’m exhausted.” But um– – It’s just the culmination of this exercise. – What we didn’t say was what does this mean for YouTube and people like us because I was hoping that we’d come back and there’d be more stuff and be like, there’s hope for people who, YouTube, it doesn’t work for them and it’s gonna start working for them and they’re gonna come in droves. – I think first of all, I think YouTube Premium is trying to fill that void and maybe that will. But I think that ultimately, people like me and you are just gonna get old and die. – Well that’s a safe bet. And a great ending. All right guys, we’ll speak at you next week. But trust, we’re gonna be getting older and closer to dying. – (laughing) #EarBiscuits. 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