Welcome to Ear Biscuits. The podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the Roundtable of Dim Lighting we are going to be talking all about our new television show “Inside Eats With Rhett & Link” on Food Network and this isn’t. And Discovery+. This isn’t like a, I mean we’re obviously gonna be talking about the show and all our other things that we do and trying to get you to watch it. This is not a promotion. This is not a promotional thing. This is a, we’re two guys. You know us, Rhett and Link. We’re friends, we own a company together and we try to make things happen in the media landscape and one of the exciting things that’s happening for us personally is this television show. So we’re gonna kind of get into it. Yeah if you care enough about us to care about the stuff that we care about, well it turns out we, we’re pretty excited about this you know? I mean we’ve had a few milestones in our career that were television shows. Yeah. We had one Online Nation in 2000 and what, nine, eight? Seven. Seven. Wow. I just kind of guessed. You know, you’re my safety net of numbers and time. 2007 and then Commercial Kings on IFC. You can get this one. 2010? Nope, 2011. Oh . Are you serious? Like 2011 is the year we moved to California because of that television show. Yeah man. Yeah, so many memories. Almost 11 years. So many memories. Well we’re gonna be talking about how does this happen. 2021, we got another one. How does one find themselves on a television show and then what happens when you begin to produce said television show. What are the steps in this process and what did we learn and how did we feel? I will say promotionally speaking that the first episode is out. I mean depending on when you’re listening to this, more may be out. But 10:30 on Sunday nights on Food Network. Oh, because if you’re listening to this super fresh, like the day this episode drops it was last night was the premiere right? Is that right? Oh snap. That sounds right. Yeah, ’cause this comes out on a Monday typically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah so 10:30 Sunday nights. And I was wearing this shirt in the premiere episode, I just thought I’d do that. Oh, there you go. I thought I’d make it interesting. A little in session. The Discovery+ versions are extended versions. Slightly extended versions of the same episodes. So it’s not bonus footage. It’s. It’s because you. Some of the scenes are extended. You don’t have to fit into the. There’s some extra stuff in there if you’re watching on Discovery+. The half hour time slot for TV. So yeah, I’m also ready to party. Just as a side note. I see you got your party suit on. You see that? I’ve got my new party suit. Yeah like, you kind of look like a guy that was just cleaning a floor. Right, I could be working. But he’s like, is he gonna, is he cleaning up after us? Or does he own the company? I mean. Yeah. And people can’t see the, can’t see. The fact that it matches. It matches, the bottoms match. It is a suit. It is a janitorial suit. Good Lord, what happened? Why is this here? Good God. Well, where did you pick that up? Instagram. I do all my shopping on Instagram man. Shout out to Imperfects. Is what this is called. Are you gonna button it up later? ‘Cause if you button it up, you look like you’re ready to start mopping. Imma button it up when I get to work tonight on the turntables. Yeah we have a party tonight. We have. Christmas party. So we have not been able to come together as a company, as the greater umbrella of Mythicals. Everybody at Mythical, everybody at Smosh. We wanted to obviously have a holiday party in 2020, that didn’t happen. We obviously wanted it to happen in 2021. Well we planned the Christmas party. In 2021, we planned a Christmas party and then the week before it, Omicron just like. Yeah. Went buck wild. Yeah. Just butt wild. So we. I thought, for the longest time I thought it was butt wild. I think you can say that. That means a different thing. We were gonna go, Halloween. Christmas holiday butt wild. And everybody. Might have been throwing some Halloween. We were gonna do a horror-themed sweater competition. So it wasn’t just your typical. Horror. You just said horror-themed. It was horror-themed ’cause I pay attention to the prompts. I knew we were judging it. I know we had a TV show in 2007, 2011 and now 2022. 2011, yep. So do I now. And we also, for the 2021 holiday party, the prompt was to do a horror-themed crazy sweater ’cause we didn’t want to do an ugly sweater because that’s like five years ago right? That’s pre-pandemic y’all. Is he right about this? So a Christmas horror though, not Halloween horror. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That’s what makes it cool. Well we’re not doing that tonight. We told them to save it for next Christmas party. Right but in our meeting the other day when we were talking about this Christmas party or the spring party, Emily was like, “Can we bring our?” She apparently worked very hard on her sweater. ‘Cause we said there was a cash prize. She was like, “Can I bring my sweater?” And I was like, “I know a lot of you worked very hard “on your horror-themed sweaters. “I am very excited to see them. “But please hold them until the 2022 holiday party.” So at the end of the year we get to, hopefully they won’t be too dusty. Things are gonna break on their horror sweaters, I’m sure. ‘Cause people build them, you know they didn’t build them for a year. They built them to use that night and now they’re like hanging up somewhere. You forget where it is by the time the next Christmas party rolls around. But yeah we’re gonna. And we’re gonna change the theme. It’ll be not scary. It’ll be like happy sweaters. No, but we’ll stop to give away the. Encouraging sweaters. Cash prize. People really stepped up for that I think. Yeah. And then we had to can it. So how do you, I do wanna check in and see how you feel about, because I have anxiety about this and if I have anxiety about this, then you have even more reason to have anxiety about this. We have not been with all these people. Oh. And there’s like 125 plus of them that are gonna be at this party who work at Mythical. We’ve hired a bunch of people over the course of the past two years. I don’t know what percentage of them I have actually met. Yeah. Out of the percentage that I have actually met, I don’t know how many I would be able to recognize with seeing the bottom half of their face and then remember their name. Jen, are we doing name tags? We’re doing name tags? Yes. I requested that yesterday because of this. Right. How big are the name tags gonna be? Are they gonna be so big that people can’t tell that you’re looking at them? Oh yeah. We need to do like. Like cleavage size? No, we need to do like Second Life type things. Oh it’s hovering. Where it’s a name tag that hovers above your head, very, very large. So people can’t really tell if you’re looking in their eye or looking at their name tag. I love it. Do we have time to do that in the next eight hours? Yeah I think maybe my suggestion would be some sort of like, like an old hangar. Like old hangars, secured with duct tape to the shoulders. Oh. They come up above the top. If everybody would do that before the party, it’ll be great. Hey, you know I’m with you man ’cause I have that name fright. Oh yeah. I saw it begin to emerge in the company-wide meeting the other day. Yeah. When you pointed at one person and said a different name. Yeah, I was like. I was recognizing Ammo for his, his promotion and I pointed at Zach. Yeah. I mean listen brother. It’s hard. And then I said, “If you squint, you guys look alike.” And I don’t know if that made it better. Yeah, I mean yeah you should probably have kept that to yourself. I don’t know man. So yeah, I was a little nervous about that but I know we’re doing the nametags so I’m cool with that. And I, I am DJing this party. Oh I heard that. Did, oh that’s why you were wearing the outfit. But I don’t like, yeah that’s my DJ outfit. But I don’t, and my name is DJ Rhett by the way. Well okay, hold on now. Your name is DJ Straw Beat. No, my name is DJ Rhett. I’m MC Sky and I may rap at any point that I want to. I did not name myself that but I think it was our friend Jayden. Like I was talking about, liking to make playlists and I think he, I think it was an accident. Like he’s a close friend so it rarely happens. So when he called he said, DJ Rhett. I think he was thinking my name was Rhett for a second and he had a brain fart. Yep. Even though he knows us really well. We didn’t have our name tags on at the time. We like busted out laughing. This was like three years ago, pre-pandemic. And we just busted out laughing and he said from then on, he stored my name in his phone as DJ Rhett. That’s kind of funny man. To kind of own the fact that he really, royally screwed up. Okay, all right. DJ Rhett is. By DJing you mean? I’m still working on my DJ name but I’m. You’re creating a playlist and then walking around in the party. You’re not staying behind a booth? I am not. I’m not really DJing and I don’t want anybody to know that I’m doing. You’re curating a playlist. I’m curating the playlist and I don’t want anybody to know that I have aspirations to be a DJ because I don’t want that to get out. Will you have on your phone? Because I don’t have any DJ equipment. In the moment. Yet. The ability to take requests or to skip songs? Hell no. Hell no. Well hold on, I’m not saying did you have the willingness. I said do you have the ability to? Oh. Is your phone going to be controlling the playlist as you walk around? On your person. No. Are you lying? Yes it’s a, yeah no. I’m not, it’s a laptop dude. Are you lying, yes. It’s a laptop. Well at least we’re being honest. It’s a laptop. You really can’t, without the proper equipment, you can’t really DJ. I mean like making a playlist is just a hack way to do it because that’s not really, that’s not DJing. That’s the only level of DJing that I am actually comfortable endorsing though really. What do you mean? For this party. Endorsing? Yeah I don’t wanna seem like I’m trying too hard. We did a party one time ’cause we’re doing it in the parking lot and we did it before in the parking lot and we had a real DJ who was at the thing. Was at the booth, was at the turntables. Yeah. And I just felt like. It was unmemorable. It may have been too. Yeah. High key for us. Ah, well I’m taking some risks. Oh really? Playing some controversial artists? No, I’m going for a vibe that I don’t know that. Oh. People are going to be expecting. Too low key? You think maybe it’s too low key? I think there’s a risk of that. I’m not risking going too hard. Do you have just like Jim Brickman just piano music? No it’s not, it’s not gonna be. Does everything have a beat? No one’s gonna go to sleep. Everything has a beat. But yeah the. Do you have an Audible playlist? Like I can call on Audible? Yeah. Like change it. Sorry, playing a book on tape. Can you just start playing Sapiens? Everyone loves that book. Six o’clock this morning. I got up and I was working on it. I worked for an hour on a backup, yeah in case. Like a vibe change. In case I was wrong, yeah. I think that was really smart. And then when I was driving in, I came up with another backup. So I’m trying to come up with. Wow you got a backup to the backup? Yeah, I just don’t you know. This is a learning process for me. Well don’t let people know that. That’s why I don’t want anyone to know that I’m actually doing the music at all. Like I’m not even going, imma be part of the party and then I want someone to say, “Oh I like this music.” Who made this playlist? Yeah it’s just who made the playlist? Like I’ve said before. And then you’re gonna claim it. There is no DJ. I am not the DJ. You’re gonna say, “Well DJ Rhett did.” Yeah I am. And then I’ll just acknowledge it and be like yeah. You can’t take, if people like it, you can’t take credit. Well if you say that DJ Rhett. DJ Rhett is not Rhett. DJ Rhett is Link. Well are you going to explain that to everyone? No unless it’s going really, really well. Is there going to be? It’s not about the music and that’s the vibe I’ve chosen. It’s not about the music, it’s about reconnecting with everyone for the first time in maybe ever? Is there a microphone and a PA system? I don’t, yeah there’s. It’s not just going to be laptop speakers. Well I know that, I just wanna make sure that. I do know very little though. But this could be the end of something. Are we gonna be making a speech is what I’m getting at. Or the beginning of something. Well that’s your problem. You worry about a speech. Well no, that’s the problem. I want you to worry about the speech. ‘Cause I don’t want you to be doing the speech. No no no no. In the moment. I’m also going to be. Because that’s when the party could go real sideways. Yeah, ’cause I’m gonna be partying too. Yeah. I’m not in full work mode. I’m just in work attire. I’m not cleaning up messes either but I could, I could shave down a surfboard. That’s what I like to think this is like a worker who works on shaving down surfboards. That’s what the model. I’ve watched, I’ve watched a few of those videos. Who was wearing this. And I bought it. And I’ve never seen that be the case. That’s the guy was wearing it doing that and I was like that’s who I wanna be. Let’s talk about the television show but first let’s talk about something else. Just wanna remind you, there’s other podcasts. Trevor Talks Too Much is one of them. His guests are surprising and delighting and they connect with him. You should give it a shot. If you’ve never listened to Trevor Talks Too Much and while you’re at it, Best Friends Back Alright. The Stevie-hosted podcast, check that one out too if you haven’t already. Totally different vibe than Trevor Talks Too Much. Kind of a similar vibe to what we do here. Two friends connecting. Yeah. Over their past, getting nostalgic about the 2000s in their case. The friendship is blossoming. If you’re into that, a blossoming friendship, check that out. And if you want to watch our old television show Commercial Kings. Commercial Kings, can’t say it right. Yeah I’m gonna promote that too. That’s interesting. You can watch it on Amazon. Yep. I believe it’s on Amazon Prime for free, could be wrong. But I think that’s right. Just search Commercial Kings with Rhett and Link and catch up on our 2011 television show. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, how does one get a television show? This was not our idea. So let’s start there. You know, we are developing lots of ideas for all types of what we call traditional entertainment. That means movies, television shows of the scripted variety and also of the non-scripted variety. Could be a game show, could be a reality show. It could be a mixture of both. We’re developing all types of stuff because we’re fans of ideas. Especially our own. Yep. But we’re also open to other people’s ideas if they work for us. Like Ronstadt is a great scripted podcast idea that did not originate with us but it was really exciting to get on board. Right, so every once in awhile people come along and say, “Hey here’s an opportunity “for you guys to be involved in this project.” And that’s how this happened. So there was a show that was already in development and not just in development, like it had been greenlit by Food Network to be a show. As far as I remember, yeah. But when you say in development, I kind of feel like it was pitched. They were like yes. The concept at the time. The working title was “Inside Our Favorite”. Or “Inside Your Favorite”. I think it was “Inside Our Favorite”. Inside Our Favorite with dot dot dot and our name was thrown out in the pitch meetings. Would Food Network, Discovery+. What do you guys think about Rhett and Link? They could be perfect hosts for this thing. Inside Our Favorite. You go behind the scenes into the. The first way it was talked about to us was. The people. Factories where all these people were working behind the scenes on factory lines to create your favorite snacks and candies, things like that. So it was kind of like How It’s Made but more host on the ground. Kind of exploring and experiencing what’s going on at these snack factories. And then we were approached. And when we were approached, I think it’s important to kind of establish the way that we see opportunities like this right? An opportunity to host a television show, I would say 10 years ago it was like, that’s why we were in this game. We were doing what we were doing on YouTube to try to. Let’s say 12 years ago. Kind of launch into, yeah ’cause once GMM started. Kind of launch into something in the traditional space but over the years what we’ve built here at Mythical and the stuff that we’re producing has become the priority for us. So opportunities like this don’t, they no longer have this oh, this is the thing that we’ve always been waiting for, we’ve always been wanting and now we’re gonna throw all our time into this and throw everything else away. It’s more like, “Okay we’re not going to stop doing Good Mythical Morning, “we’re not gonna stop doing this podcast. “We’re not gonna stop doing all the things “that we’re doing in Mythical.” So the question is can we make this work? Because it’s not just a done deal that it’s automatically a good idea right? We have been approached for other things that we have said no to but the condition for saying yes to something like this was, “We will do this if we can be executive producers “of the show and Mythical can be a production entity “on the show.” So in other words, if we can make it our show instead of just being plugged in as hosts. Now we were approached, not by Food Network directly but by the production company that hatched the original idea and got Food Network on board and excited about it. That production company is called B17. They’ve produced a number of other shows. You should check them out. You should look ’em up. So B17 approached us. Yep. And their executive over there, his name is Rhett. His name is Rhett. I was like, okay we have a connection. He might be a DJ. But maybe some confusion. He may be a DJ. No, he never brought that up. I don’t know, you don’t know that. People don’t wear it on their sleeve. Well if he did, he’d be called DJ Link. True, okay. That clears it up. I thought about, I don’t know. How am I ever gonna tell you that I’ve thought about other DJ names because I just don’t want to put it. I just don’t want to put too much energy out there in the universe about my aspirations. I want it to be something that just kind of never happens or it just happens on my own terms. So I’m gonna stop talking about that. Good. But yes, and they had experience. B17 had experience with making shows with internet talent. And we liked what they had done, we liked them. And the thing is is that I kind of set it up we’re only gonna say yes if we get to be the creative force behind the show or whatever. Made us sound like pills. Well but the thing is is that. But I don’t think we were. That’s what B17 and Food Network wanted. They were, yeah. In other words it’s like, you don’t want a host who’s just like, “I’m gonna come in here, I’m gonna do my thing “and I’m gonna leave.” You actually want somebody who’s like, “No, no, we want to be involved. “We want to make this show our own. “We want to be engaged. “We want to be passionate about this thing.” Yeah. And also, we’re really, really, really busy and we can devote about a day to shooting an episode just FYI. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. And they wasn’t like, oh no we can’t do that. It was like, well okay actually that’s what we were thinking too because you know, with all the stuff that’s being made in the world right now, they’re not just throwing out massive amounts of money for the budgets on these shows right? It’s like, people are trying to make shows much more efficient than they used to. So being able to produce something in a day or shoot something a day is actually the page that everybody was already on. So then we started asking the question of like, all right, this loose concept of, it totally makes sense why they would approach us. We’ve tried all this food. We’ve eaten all these snacks. We’ve kind of positioned ourselves as your buddies behind the desk who eat all the stuff for you to tell you if you should eat it. Yeah people who taste things and talk about it. Right, not chefs. If I didn’t have to clarify that. I didn’t think I had to clarify that, yes. Not chefs but food-adjacent, or actually directly related to food but not guys who make it. Just guys who eat it. Just like you. Food friends. And then the process started it was like well. Could’ve called it that, Food Friends. Well we got close to calling it something. That’s true. It was called something else at one point. We can get into that a little bit. There was a couple of things happening sort of behind the scenes and so there was a desire to differentiate this from just kind of going into a factory and just dealing with snacks. It was like, can we expand that into just America’s favorite food brands? So that might be a restaurant. It might be somebody who makes this a snack but just a food or a place that makes food that everyone kind of knows and relates to and has some sort of point of reference to. Yeah, which is kind of our mentality on Good Mythical Morning. The more we can pull from and experience well-known brands, whether that’s fast food brands. You know, sit down restaurant brands or different types of potato chips or cereals. That are you know, stuff you can find in the grocery store or on the snack aisle. Like there’s that connection that there’s people that are passionate about certain things and we’re very passionate about certain things. So tapping into that passion and then saying, “Okay, well let’s peel back the curtain “and show you behind the scenes there.” But there’s so much more than just that whole factory thing anyway. That like, this show can be more expansive and then it got more exciting. And then we had the idea to like, how do we sort of Rhett and Linkize this thing in terms of we knew that we wanted it to be very comedy-forward right? And we also knew that we wanted it to be very curiosity-forward because those are kind of the two pillars of our brand. Curiosity and comedy. And so that was when we established this idea of what if there was sort of an off the wall, sort of out of left field question that we want to ask about this particular brand. Like when we think Chipotle, this is what we think. When we think about Cheesecake Factory, this is the question that comes to mind for us and then can we craft an episode around that question and kind of getting, going behind the scenes to answer that question. Before Chipotle or Cheesecake Factory became actual episodes, do you remember the first example we talked about? I do remember ’cause I came up with it in a phone call. Yeah it was like you know, we were having these working meetings with B17. Me, you, Stevie and our development executive at the time, Mallory. We were kind of like shaping it. It was fun and so we were coming up with, I remember it was a very preliminary conversation. We were talking about this line of questioning, being inquisitive. Right. And could one question become like, a starting point for an episode or maybe a throughline for an episode but when you’re brainstorming, when you speak in abstract terms, you can only get so excited. And so if in those moments, on those like nascent calls we can throw something out there that you can rally around, it makes all the difference in the world. And so that’s when you threw out the example. I don’t remember how I phrased the question. I thought you said you remembered it. No I know the question. The question was about the foldy chip. Yeah like say we’re going to a potato chip factory to look at like, we’re a big fan of Lay’s. Let’s see if we could go to a Lay’s potato chip factory. And I think the question was essentially, how did the foldy chips happen and how does this brand feel about the foldy chips? And that came from the fact that you have talked about how you like the foldy chips. You prefer the foldy chips. You go after the foldy chips. I’ve even said I want a bag of nothing but foldy chips. And so I think. And I ain’t talking about kettle cut, Kettle chips. And I think the question. What I had in mind was is the foldy chip a mistake or is the foldy chip a beautiful mistake or is the foldy chip? Is it? An accepted error or is it part of the design? Right. And how, yeah how do the executives? How do the executive chefs at the potato chip factory or like the quality control people? You know, we started salivating over these answers. Right. And everybody on the call got excited about it. So that became the clarion call. Yep. Of the curiosity associated with Inside Eats even though we weren’t calling it that yet. And then of course, as this was developing. Now first of all, everybody was like yes, this is great. Now the process of, I mean you gotta be making phone calls to, B17 is reaching out to all these brands. Because you gotta be like, Hey these two guys. Here you can go to their YouTube, you can see who they are. They’re going to come to your place and they’re going to sort of go behind the scenes for this Food Network Show and I mean, not everybody is comfortable with us coming into their, finding out about what they’re doing but in some ways. I would say most brands were excited about it because I mean, let’s just face it. You’re gonna be, after you watch an episode, you’re gonna be hungry for whatever this thing is. But I mean you have to sell that ’cause the show doesn’t exist and you know, there is a level of trust that a brand has to put on the line and it’s so easy for, especially when you go to like corporatized brands. Like someone as big as Chipotle could easily have, somebody’s job’s on the line. And they could just want to cover their own ass and say, “Well there’s just as much to lose as there is to gain. “What if these guys embarrass us? “You know, I don’t know what exactly this show is. “But it is Food Network and I do, “I can see other things these guys have done.” And you know, B17 did a good job. We’re respect. We’re good boys. We’re good boys. We’re good boys. We’re not going to embarrass you too much. I mean we’ve talked some food on our show just because hey, you gotta be honest about what you like. You gotta stay honest. But yeah luckily some very high profile brands like Chipotle’s huge you know? To see, to get the vision for it and say, “Hey, this could be great for us and everybody could win.” And we had to find four brands, just to give you a little background on this. So. Right. Season one of Inside Eats is four episodes. I mean four episodes, that’s a short. That’s just, that’s how Discovery or Food Network is doing things right now. It’s like first episode, first season, let’s do four episodes, see what people think. At least they didn’t order a pilot and then maybe we work on that and then no one sees it. Yeah. If they don’t like it, it’s like, they’re gonna make an order. I feel like it’s kind of an extended pilot ’cause four is a short season. But I think it’s, you really learn a lot as we’ll talk about. Yeah. That then you can really take it, take all that into account when they order more. And I certainly hope they do. Yeah, well ’cause we learned. We’ll get into how much we’ve learned in just doing the first four but, so the brands that responded. Actually more than a handful of brands responded and said they were into the idea and the four that ended up working out based on timing. Because this all had to happen. This moved very quickly and it had to happen at the end of 2021. We shot all four episodes over the course of about two weeks in literally, like I said, four actual days of shooting. Like two days in a row and then like two weeks later two more days. Right before Christmas. And the companies that we ended up going with were Chipotle, Cheesecake Factory, Coolhaus ice cream which is a very cool ice cream shop. That actually is available nationwide. You probably have seen them at the grocery store but they’re based in L.A.. Their pint’s next to like Ben & Jerry’s. And then Beyond Meat who we’ve talked about on the show. You know basically making plant-based meat products and they had never had anybody enter behind the scenes. But anyway, those are the four that are featured in season one. And for the first episode, since that’s the one that you can watch right now. The thing that we talked about ’cause this is something that we’ve sort of talked about tangentially before is this like, when you go to Chipotle. Are you a burrito guy? Are you a bowl girl? Are you a quesadilla kid? Whatever, I’m not saying that that’s who gets those things. I’m just you. Are you a salad robot? Yeah and we wanted to ask the question, does what you order at Chipotle say something about your personality and maybe more specifically, does your personality, can we know things about your personality and then predict what you’re going to get at Chipotle? Yeah and at least, in the least we thought, “Well it’ll be fun to try.” Yes. And it was. So very much in the same way that we approach things on GMM where we delve into research and science but we do it from a comedic standpoint, that is, that’s really how we approach the show. Especially that first episode ’cause it was kind of a social science question. Yeah for Cheesecake Factory, we knew we had to make the episode ultimately about the bigness of their menu. How could their menu be so large? Like why? But also how? If you think about it. It’s a crazy amount of dishes to come out of one kitchen that then is replicated in all their different locations. It’s pretty wild. And then for Coolhaus, because they had. I mean arguably pushed the flavors of ice cream just as far, if not farther than any other ice cream maker, I mean that inspired us to say, “Well how far is too far?” And would they let us develop our own ice creams? To answer the question, how far can you push ice cream flavor? What is the limit that you can push it to? When have you crossed a threshold? ‘Cause you know, we’re willing to cross it. Just dance all over that line. And each other’s graves if they, you know. Right. Whoever loses the competition. And then in Beyond Meat the question was essentially, what is? What is this process that leads to them being able to make something that is so meat-like and something we were very specifically interested in is don’t you have to still have a familiarity with meat? And like understand meat and sort of like meat? Because what Beyond Meat is trying to do, they’re actually making a product for people who like to eat meat but would like to have a meat alternative. Either sometimes or eventually all the time. Yeah, but if not for. You’re not trying to create. Health reasons or dietary reasons, for environmental reasons. Right, so they actually. They’re banking on the fact that humans generally like the taste and texture and color of meat. But not everybody wants to eat that much actual meat. So how do you do that in a plant-based way? And for me personally, I mean I enjoyed, legitimately enjoyed the process at every single place. The Beyond Meat episode for me was the one, it just gets very scientific. It gets. Yeah it was. It gets very specific and like oh that’s, this is how it happens? There was a lot of surprise and awe. But there was also, for that episode, because this is all proprietary stuff. Like and they had never let anybody in. They’d never let cameras in their headquarters before. Right. And so there was like, a woman who’s like looking at whatever’s in the frame and making sure there’s not some secret formula in the back. Because there’s competition out there with plant-based meats and so we got a lot of information but we didn’t get enough where you could be like, “I’m gonna start my own Beyond Meat now.” No, we got all the information but then at the very end there was that Men In Black moment, do you remember? Oh yes, yeah. On the way out? I think that just like a Tussy deodorant that somebody held up in front of us. A Tussy deodorant. You know Tussy? Tussy. Tussy the deodorant. That’s my favorite brand of anything. And it kind of is like circular. T-U-S-S-Y. Tussy. Well the great thing about Tussy is that we can. Can we do an Inside Eats on Tussy? Well I hope so. Can we talk about how I used to take a Sharpie? No. And change the T to a P? No, no. We do not, you do not eat Tussy. It’s a deodorant. Can you eat Tussy? Okay. On season two of. Inside. I won’t even say it. I won’t even. I’m not even gonna say it man. So we’re, we’re deciding that this is gonna be our approach. Let’s move to actually filming these things ’cause it was you know, first of all, coming out of the pandemic. There was, I mean still a lot of safety protocols. A lot of masks being worn up until the second of us actually being on camera. Lots of testing happening. Super safetyness. Well I wanna talk about the team that was kind of working behind the scenes as well to kind of make it where when we showed up everything was gonna go as seamless as possible. Our showrunner TJ Chambers who is you know, I would say more so than us, the hardest working person in this whole endeavor right? I mean that dude worked his ass off to help make this show happen. Yeah. ‘Cause he’s basically worrying about everything from the very beginning to the very end of like delivering the trailer. Oh yeah, shaping. You know. And protecting the tone of the show and really shepherding our wishes and the network’s wishes and creating something that is not a compromise but is the best of both worlds. Yeah and he’s kind of a jack of all trades in a lot of ways because he is a writer. You know, he’s a writer, he’s a producer. He’s a director. There’s a lot of things that are happening behind the scenes and then when we’re producing it. He needs more of, yeah like lots of comedy experience. Because what we knew we wanted right, because our experience with Commercial Kings and if you go back and watch Commercial Kings as Link asked you to do earlier, which I guess is on Amazon. Yeah, Amazon steaming. You’ll see there was a very specific convention that we used back then called OTF. On the fly interviews. So the way that we would, the way that we should shoot that show is we would go, we would work with a business, we would make the commercial and then we would kind of. All along the way. Take stock. Take stock of like what just happened and can we just stand you guys in front of this building right here and ask you some questions so you can, looks like a reality show. Just like they do on The Batchelor or Survivor or whatever. Yeah or every HDTV show. You would just talk about what is happening and we’ll use. In the present tense. We’ll use that to sort of piece the story together. We knew that we did not want to do that for like seven different reasons. Number one, I don’t like that convention. I feel like. It’s done a lot. It’s kind of overdone but also it traps you into whatever you said in that moment. It ends up seeming kind of canned. We like voiceover. We like being able to look at what we have done, look at what has been created, look at the footage that we actually have and then make decisions about how we want to piece it together and it’s also an opportunity to really nail the comedy and change jokes because you’re not gonna go back out to that building and stand in front of it again. Oh God. But you can just simply voiceover something different. Well on Commercial Kings we were really burned because we got into the edit process and we were like, “We really need to cut to an interview guys “introducing the next thing “or bridging from idea A to idea B.” And it was a lot of heavy lifting from a story standpoint that then we just had to go out into some nondescript North Hollywood location from our edit bays and spend a few hours just standing out there. Yeah. Acting like we were back. In Nevada. In Nevada or Reno or I guess, we went to other places besides Nevada. Reno is in Nevada, Tonopah. And it just, it was a lot of work and it wasn’t, and it’s not our best work you know? No no no no. It’s really hard to do. Especially as two people because. We ended up scripting them and that’s when it got, just so that we could get it done. And you could tell. And then it was like. And with a voiceover, knowing that it’s scripted is just everyone knows. Of course yeah you guys are now reading this thing that you’ve written. It’s narration, of course. And it’s more of an acceptable convention and more flexible, all those things. But we actually. Best decision we ever made for the show. We brought Nick Lopez. If you’re like a hardcore GMM trivia enthusiast you might know that Nick was, well first of all. I am not. We got to know Nick ’cause Nick was a writer’s assistant on Buddy System season two. Two, yep. And we loved him, hired him onto the GMM writing team. Yep. He quickly, I think he was a writer’s at some point on GMM. Quickly moved into a head writer position and but he so. Went to work on other projects. So talented he’s had the opportunity to kind of just move on to other things and work on other things but we were like, “He’ll come back and work on GMM from time to time “when we need an extra hand.” But we were like, and I think it was Stevie. Stevie’s idea was like, “Oh we should talk to Nick.” Because the show. He understands our voice. The show is not written per se but if you’re gonna go into, like oh we’re going into this situation where there’s the guy who is the head chef at Chipotle and we’re gonna be asking a bunch of questions. Nick is able to be like, here are some paths that you can go down. Here are some conversational paths you can go down. Here’s something that you might want to ask. Here’s a little fun fact that you might want to bring up. Here’s something that I know that he knows because we got it from a pre-interview that you might find a way to reveal in the conversation. Like you can get at this in a funny way. So Nick did a lot of work there along with TJ to kind of, when we got to set on that first day which Chipotle was the first episode that we shot as a matter of fact. Yeah. I’ll just say I had a, my back. You know this is what happens a lot of with me when we’re moving into a project. That’s right. My lower back goes out and it’s just something that I haven’t quite get a hold on and I don’t know why it always happens but my back. Stress. Yeah, well I know that’s why it happens but I don’t know specifically. I don’t know how the mechanically all this stuff happens. But my back had seized up and it was like a nine on a scale of one to 10 in terms of how bad my back my back can hurt. I felt for you man. So whenever you see Rhett walking. That whole episode my back is. He’s walking fine. I am in extreme pain that whole episode. But I will hand it to myself. I did a good job of setting, like compartmentalizing the pain in terms of when we were in a conversation and just being in the moment and trying to be in a comedic head space. That sucks man. But you definitely can tell. I mean it’s akin to like, almost like a migraine almost you know? Migraines are worse. Migraines are worse but it’s almost. When the head is, when the pain is localized in your face, in your head which feels like the center of your person, I think that’s a lot more disrupting than like. Yeah. My lower back is killing me right now but I’m still up here. Your face can be happy. I can go completely into my head and just exist in my head like that brain on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yeah, Krang. Yeah. Yeah. That’s basically, I was embodying or channeling, Crane is his name? Krang, Krang. Krang, yeah. You did good Rhett. And I was using the Krang voice the whole time if that helps explain it. I was not in any pain. I had some jitters you know? It’s like okay we’re dusting off the, well the dust. Not only of the pandemic but like experiencing an entire new crew and in a place where it’s like, we’re just starting this thing. Everybody’s watching closely from a protocol COVID standpoint to like a performance, to like what is this show gonna be to the network standpoint. But I think one of the main things that I feel great about with this show and I felt it very early on. The first time we shot something was that first scene. First thing we shot was around back. This guy pulls up and he’s unloading all of the raw materials. The vegetables and the chicken and stuff for Chipotle. So when you see this, just so you know when you watch this on the show. This is probably halfway or maybe even a little longer than halfway through the episode when we approach this guy unloading the stuff in the truck behind the Chipotle. First thing we shot. That was literally, we were doing our hair and makeup inside the Chipotle that we were shooting at. Right. And then they were like, okay this is your first scene. Because again, everything has to be shot according to when things are happening and then later it’s pieced together to make a consistent narrative. So yeah us walking around that corner making that Law and Order joke was the very first thing we shot with Inside Eats. Yeah and we were like, “We got a couple of questions for you.” And he’s like, “How are you doing?” It’s like, “Oh you’re gonna start with the questions.” And it was all right, we’re in the mix. Things are, this is happening. And we were off to the races. It felt, it felt great to say at the end of that first day or even halfway through the first day that my main concern had been alleviated which was are we gonna be in our zone? Are we going to be this, ourselves. Ourselves. Are we gonna be comfortable, confident and having a good time? Are we gonna take everything that we’ve learned from Good Mythical Morning and even when things would change over the years with Good Mythical Morning. The bigger the change, the more chance that all of a sudden, our vibe would be off. And when everything is new, your brain, my brain tends to focus. It doesn’t yet know what to tune out and what to focus on. Oh there’s new people in the crew. There’s new cameras, it’s cold today. I’m wearing something different. I’m this, that and the other. Your back hurts. All of these type of variables. You have to know what to tune out and what to focus on. To just, to be the most, to be true to ourselves. And just trust our instincts and be in that moment. Well. And I was very, very happy that this show is you know, we were never put in a position and we never stepped into a position that was, that stretched us in a way that wasn’t a good idea. For me, that. Just because the people that we were working with had very clearly communicated that they understood what makes us who we are and they wanted us to be who we are. Yeah. So I don’t think I ever felt any. There was never a question in my mind of like, are we gonna be put into the right circumstance to pull this off? It was more like, you know there’s this. We are always doing this little dance you know? We had watched. The most analogous thing to this in the recent past is The Backup Plan series that we did on GMN. Right. That was sponsored by Geico. Yeah when we went to the cereal factory and got in the. Right. So we actually. The huge cereal bowl is a great example. We sent those, we sent that episode of the cereal bowl and there was another one where we went to oh the. The flavor. The smell, the flavor factory. We sent those over to B17 and TJ and everybody and we were like. You know we’ve done this type of thing before and this is sort of the vibe right? We’re asking a real question but we’re doing it in a ridiculous way. There’s gonna be these ridiculous asides and we’re obviously entering the situation as a comedy duo. I hadn’t watched those in years and I remember watching them. And I remember that night I watched them and immediately sent those two episodes to you and Stevie ’cause I was like hey, I didn’t know how I was gonna feel. You never know how you’re gonna feel about something when you go back to it years later. Yeah. ‘Cause you always feel like you’ve developed beyond it or whatever. Yeah. I was like hey, this is the. This is the true north. The way that we interacted here. This is how we. This is the vibe that we should attain right? This is the vibe we should go for. Yeah. And I think we really got there. I mean there’s always a little bit, it depends on what we’re doing at the time. There are moments in this type of format where we get to a place where me and you are standing there talking to one person and asking them questions and not doing something. And it gets to be like two guys interviewing two person and since nothing is scripted. Again like yes we had this notebook that’s like here’s some questions you could ask. Here’s what this person knows. Here is the goal of this scene. We had all kind of developed that and then Nick and TJ had put it in this big binder that we were given when we got on set so we reorient ourselves but when the camera starts rolling, you don’t remember what the binder said. You remember bits and pieces of it but you’re really going on instinct. Yeah. And so you’ve got what you’re thinking. I’ve got what I’m thinking. Oh, Link just said that. I’m gonna go with that or that makes me think this. I’m gonna get out of his way for a second. There is this debt. There’s a balance in trying to figure out that dance again. Yeah the brain gets hot. There’s a lot going on. But it pretty much came back immediately. It wasn’t like a struggle. Yeah, very glad about that. So I think you know, so when we were bringing our comedic sensibility and our curiosity to the table and to every scene, having structured the episodes and gotten approval on that. The thing that Food Network was bringing to us was an education on their expectations from their audience ’cause this is a melding of two audiences you know? Between a Food Network, Discovery+ and Mythical Beasts. And I would say specifically. And I would like to talk about that. I would say specifically Food Network which yes, Food Network is a part of Discovery but when we got approached, we actually didn’t know. I don’t know if I missed it or if it developed later but we didn’t know that it was a Food Network show. The conversation was Discovery+. Right. So, I knew it was gonna be food-centric because that’s the whole point of the show but the moment that it either became or I finally realized. We didn’t know if it would be comedy-centric with food but it became. Well there’s a, yeah. Clear that it needed to be food-centric. Right, and when we say food-centric, what we mean is that. So a person who has decided to turn on Food Network and maybe you’re one of those people. If you’re like me, you’re just the kind of person that just likes to look at food right? You like to look at food and see people make food and see people eat food because you have a love affair with food. It’s probably the best thing on earth besides what rhymes with Tussy. Okay. That we talked about earlier. And so people who watch Food Network, they need to see food. Right, they don’t just want to see two guys being stupid, being funny. Yeah. Because if you’re a Food Network first, if you’re tuning in for Food Network first and not Rhett and Link first. You’re like I’m here for the food part of the network. I don’t want these two guys to get in the way of the food. And so there was one guy who had a sort of specialized camera. It was a different camera that could do a really high frame rate for slow motion. And he was the food camera guy. Yeah. And so if the guacamole is being made or dipped out of something or steak is being chopped, it’s being like that’s when those sort of hero shots or whatever you want to call them, slow-mo, sort of dramatic food shots. He was getting all, and as he was getting all this footage. Me, not really understanding the show that we were making yet, I was like, “Wow, he’s filming a lot, he’s filming all this food. “But I mean it’s gonna be us on camera right?” You know it was like, I mean if we’re gonna be the funny guys on camera right. So there was a realignment that happened in terms of like understanding the, where everything should settle. What the balance should be for this show and really begin to understand and getting that Food Network education that hey, the audience wants to indulge with their eyes. You know? And you can, yeah we can have fun all along the way. But you want to indulge and you want to learn. So as we were in the post-phase of editing everything together and we were giving a bunch of notes about like all right, I remember saying this and we had, it was funny. Or I remember Rhett said this, they’re like there’s three things from Rhett. There’s nothing from me. Let’s have a little bit more balance or vice versa. We would give these type of notes. Right. Or this is a runner. I think we have a throwback. You know comedy notes. Yeah the thing that we’re interested in. And the Food Network notes would be like, we need to understand more of the process. You started making the guacamole but we don’t know what the final, you didn’t reveal what the final ingredient was. It didn’t come together. It’s like you gotta have. If you’re gonna go into this guacamole moment, well it needs to have a beginning, middle and end. You gotta have a satisfying conclusion so that people feel like they’ve got the full guac experience and it totally makes sense. And you want to, and you want to see the guac and hey if there’s a fact about how many avocados Chipotle goes through in a year or a week or whatever that fact was. That’s an interesting thing. We didn’t ask that in scene but we can pull a voiceover. We can change that. And whenever you start to learn these things, well now let’s add another layer where we’re doing some animations that illustrate the things that you’re learning from a culinary standpoint. And I think the point. And so that was added to the show. I think the point of this, like what I am hoping that you listening will take from this discussion is you know, if we made this show and we were making it for the Good Mythical Morning audience. Right. We were going into Chipotle and asking this question and then putting it on to an episode of GMM or as an episode of GMM like we do with The Backup Plan. Because you’re tuning in to Good Mythical Morning we think primarily to hang out with us, then it’s gonna be almost like 90 to 95% just us being us and using this canvas of Chipotle as an opportunity to be funny right? Yeah. But because the intended audience is first and foremost is someone who’s interested in food television, Food Network. It is a food show first that we are then bringing all that Rhett and Link ridiculousness and curiosity into. To kind of create more of a balance. So while I do think it is the most, I don’t wanna say it’s the funniest show on Food Network. I mean I think Guy Fieri is very funny but I think it the most intentionally comedic show on Food Network. And shout out to Alton Brown who we still want to have on GMM. Yeah yeah yeah. You know he did more like this sketch thing at the top of his show. Well one of his shows and you know, that’s another thing that we did succeed at starting with comedy. Like there’s basically a sketch. Well let me clarify real quick. I just made it sound like I was saying that Guy Fieri is unintentionally funny. No, I’m just saying that like, he’s coming in there first and foremost as a chef who happens to be very funny. We’re coming in as comedians who just happen to some knowledge about, experience with food. Oh I got you. You know what I’m saying? I got you. But yeah, I am curious at this. You know we’re talking to you and kind of telling you what our perspective is. And all of this I think has come together in a show that makes the most sense. That is satisfying on all of these levels you know? Are there as many jokes as we made? Of course not. There’s lots of stuff that got cut. But there are more just so you know. Again, when you’re doing linear television that’s actually gonna show up on Food Network and have commercial breaks. That episode is about 22 minutes of content right? That’s how much content ends up being in a half hour block of traditional television. So you’ve gotta hit 22 minutes. Obviously on Discovery+, streaming service, you don’t have to hit that. So we had these additional, sometimes a completely new scene and sometimes just a new thing that happened in a scene and all those have been added in when you watch it on Discovery+. So you might get like a 25, 26 minute episode on Discovery+ and most of that’s gonna be stuff that wasn’t essential or integral to a Food Network audience. So it tends to be some of the funny tangential stuff that happened in the moment. The thing that I’m most interested in at this point, because it hasn’t premiered yet as of this recording. Is yeah, what is the reception gonna be? What, what are Mythical Beasts going to think of it? What is the Food Network audience gonna think? How are we going to find out what non Mythical Beasts think? Oh. We are gonna get that feedback? I’m sure we’ll find that out. You know? It’s like we’ll have to go to other places, other ways that the show is posted online. Or promos of it are posted online. Just to you know, tap into that buzz but I’m just, I’m interested because again, it’s like every time you put something out for a new type of audience it’s like, well are they gonna hate one or both of us? Well there’s. And I just know, you know I just, I know that with the way that I do things. It’s like, I’m not for everybody. I’m not for everybody. So I’m kind of prepared for that. It’s like, and I. But I don’t, and if that’s the reason the show doesn’t work, so be it. Well I could. The show ain’t gonna work without me. I’ll just have to do season two alone. Well this is your – Or maybe I oughta do it with DJ Rhett. No this is your opportunity to say, people don’t like me either. That’s true, a lot of people don’t like me. Maybe more people than don’t like you. Right. But so there’s a question of like is the traditional Food Network audience going to be like, “I want to see somebody who’s making great food. “I don’t want to see a couple of idiots “who are just having fun with food.”? And then on the opposite end of the spectrum, are there people who are like, “I’m just coming here for the ridiculousness “of Rhett and Link “and I don’t care about all the food shots.”? Because we have made a show that is a compromise between what both parties want. I believe that, I mean for me, because I do like food a lot and I like food facts and I like to see the process. It was fascinating to get to know the people who are making the decisions about what ends up on the Chipotle menu or The Cheesecake Factory menu. The people behind these incredible flavors at Coolhaus. The scientists, the flavor scientists behind Beyond Meat. Yeah. That’s all super fascinating stuff to me. That’s personally more fascinating than me making a joke. So I feel like it landed in a great place. I do too. I’m very proud of this show. I was very proud of Commercial Kings and if we had the opportunity. If they had ordered more, we would’ve turned a corner and it would’ve gotten that much better. But the core of that show was something I’m very proud of and I wish they would’ve ordered more. I’m glad that they didn’t because Good Mythical Morning may have never existed and we wouldn’t be here today. But we learned so much in these four episodes. Yeah. Of figuring out what the show is and how to ask those questions and what we should actually be shooting and the things that we should actually be doing that I feel like, I’m not saying there’s. We have so much more focus. I’m not saying there’s anything, I think where we ended up with season one after a lot of edits and a lot of back and forth and figuring that out. We kind of know exactly what the mode is and what the final project is gonna be going, if we can go into a second season. Where I would just be that much more confident to make a great television show. But we’ve experienced enough to know that like, you know it could go either way. We’re very hopeful. We believe that this show has legs and we want to keep making it. But you know, there’s so many factors. Yeah. Not the least of which is who, again at this point, who knows how it will be interpreted? How we will be interpreted within the Food Network programming. Yeah. That’s just very, ’cause it is, it is a different type of show that pushes the comedy more and it is, it’s unique. So that’s a good thing if enough people are ready for it. If they have, pun intended, an appetite for it. Now I haven’t really come, I haven’t made a definitive decision about this but I am considering and strongly leaning toward not reading anything about the show. Not looking at anyone’s thoughts about the show. We’ve never done that with anything we’ve made. Why would you start now? I’m getting much more. Actually, I am moving in that direction much, much more. I find it to be a much healthier place. Because while the vast majority of the feedback that we get on the things that we do is positive because we’ve got such a supportive fanbase. First of all you know that the minority comments who are gonna say something hurtful, those are the ones that you remember. But also I find myself not being in a healthy place when I’m trying to find the positive comments. Yeah. To outweigh the negative comments and then I realize that I am finding my identity and my value in other people’s interpretation of my work. Where what I’m trying to do is get to a place where I am happy with what this ended up being and so that’s the only thing that I need to know. Is that I am proud of it. I know what I like about it, what I don’t like about it. My thoughts about it, what I would do differently. Now we have people who are here at Mythical who are going to tell us the aggregate opinions of people which are very helpful. I’m not saying I don’t want to take the audience’s reception into account because you’re not a good producer if you don’t do that. If you don’t know what the audience thinks. But there is something that happens emotionally and mentally when you interact directly with either a compliment or a criticism. That I don’t think is necessarily good for my psyche. Well, I applaud that. I actually think talking out both sides of my mouth ’cause I said that we’ve never done that before but the more I think about it, I read stuff less and less. Like I’m kind of a, what’s the? I’m a hermit in. I’m like a social media hermit. I mean, you tell me lots of things that I don’t read. That they never crossed my path. Yeah. So actually, you’re a lot more prone to it than I am. I think I’ll probably end up just being like, you know. I didn’t end up reading anything. Well it’s things like. But a new project is. I can be having a good. Your friend and like the ongoing stuff. I can be having a good day and then I make the horrible decision to go and look at, I mean I haven’t done this recently. I’m just saying back when it was a relevant thing to do. Look at the Goodreads reviews for “The Lost Causes of Bleak Creek”. Now first of all, again. The aggregate of that book and the rating is very high right? I’m proud of that book. Obviously we’re not novelists and I didn’t think it was gonna be, like win the Pulitzer Prize and we learned a lot in doing it. But I’m proud of what it ended up being for what it is. But there are people who come to Goodreads who see themselves as literary critics and then just write these scathing reviews and some of them you’re like, “Well yeah that’s true.” Or yeah, you’re right about that. That puts me in, but I already know what I think about that process. I already know how I feel about that book. I already know how I feel about what we would do differently if we were to do a second one in the series or whatever. Yep. So you’re not learning anything. I’m only suffering emotionally. So as I try to release myself from things that I can’t control which is people’s opinions about our work, what I can’t control is our work right? I have an opinion about it and that opinion can be incorporated into the next iteration and it just feels like a much healthier place. So because of all the things that you were just saying about, yes there’s gonna be people who are like, actively, I don’t want this on my network. I don’t want these YouTube idiots on my network. For whatever reason, for hangups that they have or they just, like you said, they don’t like us. They don’t like our sense of humor. It’s stupid, whatever. They don’t like the fact that you’re picky. They don’t like the fact that we’re not chefs. Feeling that they don’t like my hair, whatever. I already know that there’s people who think that. I already know that there are people who think we’re insufferable. Do I need to hear them say it? So. We also don’t need them to change their mind. Right. We’re doing just fine. Yeah and so that’s what I’m saying ultimately is, I don’t think. I’m definitely not gonna seek out any sort of, I heard somebody saying one time, “Never read your book review. “Never read your movie review.” If we ever have the privilege of making a feature-length movie, I don’t think I’m gonna read any critic reviews. Whoa. I don’t think I’m gonna go to Rotten Tomatoes. Now I’m gonna know what the aggregate score is because you can’t avoid it and somebody’s gonna tell us. It’s gonna be in some report that comes in an email. Everyone, your movie exists. It is currently at a 61. So it’s sort of on fresh but just barely and most of the comments about the choice you guys made to include the scene where the dog dies and you really shouldn’t have done that or whatever you know? And so and it was like yeah, we shouldn’t have put that in there. Yeah I don’t wanna overstate it either. I don’t wanna be like, I’m just saying it like, what I’ve noticed a number of times is I’ll be like, “Things are good right now.” And then all of a sudden I’m reading something and then. I just know what the weakness is. Those things. I’m not saying it ruins my day. I’m saying that. Those things that you mentioned are things that we already know. People are gonna be opinionated about the way we look, the way that I act. Our non-chef. Like there’s, yeah. There’s some targets on our back if you want to be critical. But those are things that I don’t want to change about myself. The things that really hurt are the things where we know it’s a weakness and we wish we could’ve changed it. Like that’s when it really gets me is that like. Yeah, but I think there’s. But I guess what I’m saying ultimately. There are some of those things but those are small. When it comes to these four episodes, there’s not any gaping shortcoming. Yeah, yeah I agree. That I feel is like a big weakness. It is what it is. I agree with that. I mean it’s not, you know again it’s not. I mean we’re not. I was, honestly it’s like, are we trying to win an Emmy? No. No, of course not. I mean maybe eventually but we don’t think that this show is gonna do that. No it’s like, I mean some of my favorite shows ever, I don’t know if they ever won an Emmy. Right. Did Dirty Jobs ever win an Emmy? Yeah so. Maybe, I don’t know. I think it deserves one. I completely agree with you that the stuff that I already know to be true. It’s like this person thinks this thing and they perceive us in this way. That’s not the stuff that bothers me. The stuff that bothers me is the stuff that I already know to be the case that’s like yes, we made this mistake or we did this thing wrong and now people are basically recognizing that and my worst fear of people finding out that we made this mistake and did this in the wrong way. It’s coming true. Right. What I’m saying is from an emotional standpoint, I already know the mistakes that I’ve made. And I’m not talking about with this. I agree with you. I don’t feel that way about this show. I’m just saying in general, with the things that we put into the world. I have just found that I’m in a healthier place when I’m like you know what was lacking about that thing that you did. Do you need somebody to tell you when you already know? And do you gain anything emotionally from it? So if I can have somebody else read all that feedback and then come to us and be like, “Hey this is actually how things were received “from a whole group.” That’s much less emotionally unsettling than reading individual people say very personal things. So I’m not saying I can’t deal with it. I’m just saying after it happens, I think to myself, “I could have not. “I could have not experienced that “and I would be having a better time right now. “I would be in a healthier place.” Yeah I get it. This is not a GMM 22 scenario. Oh. I mean you know that. Of course. I think that’s my point. Yeah. You know it’s like, we did that First We Feast snacked video and I read those comments and you get the people who don’t, they’re not fans of ours. Who maybe don’t have a point of reference for us and yeah, I do remember the comment about me that was like, “This guy just, he like, he acts and eats “like a four-year-old.” It’s like okay, well. That’s, he’s, this commenter’s describing something. That could’ve hurt my feelings but the thing I’m, the way I’m trying to grow is to interact with, not interact with the comment. But to acknowledge the comment within myself as, “You know what? “He’s describing something that people are attracted to “about my sense of humor and my persona.” Yeah. That he doesn’t get. Or doesn’t prefer. And it’s not for everybody. And you know what? So I mean, but I was fully myself and I’m very proud of it and I don’t expect everybody to like me and I’m cool with that. And I actually remember thinking. Just trying to be cool with that. That’s a good example because I remember thinking that when we left that First We Feast shoot. That I was like a four-year-old? Yeah. I remember thinking, we were really ourselves and we were having a genuinely good time just being ourselves and interacting with these snacks and I am proud of what we did. The only thing I was pissed about was they didn’t buy the right cereal. So that’s why there was no cereal in the episode and they also cut your beans. They edited it out. I did have baked beans and that was edited out. So just for the record, Rhett ate beans and I ordered cereal but Raisin Bran is not Raisin Bran Crunch and that’s not. And by the way, Raisin Bran is not Raisin Nut Bran. Okay. And that’s the one I actually ordered ’cause I’m on that kick now. Raisin Nut Bran Crunch? Nope. Or just Raisin Nut Bran? Raisin Nut Bran. Not Raisin Bran Crunch. But so. And I was pissed about that but you know, mistakes are made and. And I knew when we came as a duo. It really isn’t a big deal. When we came as a duo and we had all those snacks, I knew that something was gonna be cut out. But what I’m getting at is, even though I did, when it came out. I did start scrolling through the comments. I stopped because I was like, “Hold on, you remember walking out of there “and thinking to yourself, “‘You did that the way that you wanted to do it.’” Now any time you venture outside of your protective bubble of your. Mythical Beast. Your Mythical Beasts. You know that you’re ready for, you’re gonna get some criticism. And so again, I was like, yes people aren’t gonna like it. Some people just look at us and are immediately annoyed. I understand, I get it. I know people like that too. Right. But if I’m happy with what I did and how I came across, then I should just let that be what I found the satisfaction in. Not that somebody liked it or didn’t like it. Again ’cause I don’t want to just hear things that people like either. I’m saying that finding any sort of value or currency in people liking me or feeling undervalued because people don’t like me. I’m just trying to move to a new level of existence and it’s really difficult for a performer who has built a career. Oh yeah. On trying to please an audience. It’s just part of the ongoing struggle. So when we’ve got something like this, that’s again. I don’t know how many people are going to watch the show compared to how many people watch Good Mythical Morning. I think less given how many people watch Good Mythical Morning. But it’s still going to be perceived as some leveling up. It’s like the people back home in North Carolina, oh they’re all excited about the TV show because it means more to them. Because they think that being on television instead of having a YouTube show is like a fundamentally different, more awesome thing. It’s just how people think about things. So you feel like you’re stepping up onto some sort of pseudo-pedestal and now people are gonna be like, “Well now that they’ve done this, “now I’ve gotta have my opinion.” And I’m just like, “Well I already know what I think about what we did. “I already know about the show. “So I should not even hear your opinion.” Does that make sense? Yeah. I got a little rec for ya. If you want to do some easy listening, I played this for you the other night. Jose Gonzalez. Yeah, I like him. He is Swedish. Well he’s from Sweden but he’s. That’s what I thought from the name. His parents are Argentinian? I was like, that sounds like a Swedish name. He’s of Argentinian descent but he was born and raised in Sweden and he’s got this, this just totally soothing, just going in nature and listen to some Jose Gonzalez. His last, his most recent album. Where’s my phone? Got so many pockets in this suit. It’s in your pocket DJ Rhett. It’s not, it’s my top pocket. Listen to his album Local Valley. Just to get some good bucolic vibes going on. Man, an introspective and autumnal folk and indie pop blend. That’s pastoral in experience. Jose Gonzalez, he’s got a lot of albums. You’re welcome. #EarBiscuits, let’s keep the conversation going. We will talk with you next week. To watch more Ear Biscuits click on the playlist on the right. 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