[Music] welcome to ear biscuits the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time i’m link and i’m rhett this week at the round table of dim lighting we are doing something very exciting something new we’re going to be listening to your voicemails in response to our prompt i was today years old when i learned fill in the blank and so our new number one eight eight eight don’t leave out that eight ear pod one one eight eight eight six ear pod one what is it again i wanna sing it the same way oh i don’t 1 888 earpod one uh yeah that’s and is that it so this is our new line where you can call to answer the prompts that we usually put out on twitter in this case this was a twitter prompt that’s how you can like know what we were asking you but also any comments any questions any observations any corrections any hopes and dreams whatever you want to leave on the line you can do that mm-hmm i like the idea of that i like the idea of hearing your voice and don’t be shy call in let us know something keep it short now listen i’m a spring something on you here and i do want to hear the thing that you wanted to tell me about because i am excited about hearing about it okay but and you probably know where i’m going with this people always ask like when they when they want to get asked like good questions about like us working together and like being friends for so long like do you guys ever do you guys ever fight and let me tell you oh we just had a fight i would call it a fight oh it was i mean we caught a fight on a 0-10 scale of intensity what would you say that the what i’m calling a fight before we came in here was i have a number in my head 10 being the time that we slapped each other and almost got into a physical fight tim bean if we were fighting and then we we did start it did get physical which that’s never happened i’d say it got to a six well okay yeah i was thinking it yeah it could have been a seven it’s like i didn’t think that the podcast was in jeopardy but that was part of it that i mean it was on it was on the table but i didn’t think it was imminent i didn’t feel like it was about to like go off the rails so why don’t i i just think i think i think we should share you know people want to know about us fighting you want to give my perspective it’s very fresh i’m gonna even let you go first uh so i’m not gonna maybe strategic i’m not gonna give the details about what we were arguing about because um it would be a be boring and b would also like reveal something that we’re working on that’s true yeah i don’t wanna so uh we had a conversation about this thing yesterday and i was i i was concerned about it not cause anything with you but just like concerned about some details that are kind of changing about something and it’s just like it was on my mind i like went home thinking about it and so then and i was in the meeting too and i was i was also concerned about it in the meeting right so um i have a tendency to like i would just say exactly now you may think say what happened yeah yeah well no i know well i’m gonna i’m just saying i think because i think this is uh i think the the argument is based in our differences in approach to these things so we were getting ready for the podcast in the wardrobe room i was putting on a little powder can you tell um and i was like you know i’ll tell you i’m kind of concerned about filling the blank and blah blah blah blah blah blah and then what i heard from you is just like you shouldn’t be concerned about that that’s not a big deal it’s being handled that’s what you said what i heard from you is that i don’t want to get into this right now because we’re about to do a podcast and i don’t like to open up a can of worms before we go into performance mode which i respect by the way and ended up telling you that i do respect it yeah um and i think it’s this but it got heated first well because what i said was because because there was a there was literally a moment where you said well what are you going to do about it like when we were when we were talking about the concern and i was like oh okay we’re in that place again where what you are expecting from the conversation is if we’re going to talk about something let’s talk about it let’s have a real conversation about it and let’s solve the problem my brain doesn’t work that way my brain is just like hey i’m thinking this right now and i’m putting on some makeup and i’m just gonna say what’s on my mind just because hey this is something that uh we’re gonna have to solve eventually let’s i’m just thinking about it i’m gonna talk about it yeah and you know what i’m thinking about but not talking about this right like what i was like what we’re about to do oh we’re doing this the first time we’ve ever done this like i’m thinking about this like i’m thinking about the details of it and like you know trying to perfectionize it you know getting into the weeds and so when you got so i’m dabbing my face can you tell with some with some powders so many powders good god um yeah and then you you get multiple you bring up the thing and then i’m like you know what i realized there’s a part of this well remember the other conversation we had about filling the blank that then mitigates the concern that we have that i felt like i felt like okay my buddy rhett here is getting up in arms like he’s concerned about this i bet you i bet you he was thinking about it last night i bet you this is the first thing we’re talking about this morning so it’s like he might have been he might have not slept at all he might have been thinking about this all night and i’m like you know what there’s a mitigating factor about filling the blank from another conversation don’t you remember that that like i actually didn’t think about it and you were like well i was in the meeting but i don’t remember hearing that and i’m like well i really think it’s it’s being handled and that was helpful information and i don’t think i just don’t think we need to worry about it what i never said was you know what i’m not in the headspace to discuss this can we can we pause this like i did not do that instead i will own the fact that like i was the one who escalated it i felt like you were you were in uh an elevated state of alarm that i thought was detrimental to the task at hand this podcast i felt that now you you told me that i was wrong i respect that so i felt like i need to protect where we were going and so i told you something that wasn’t was not a was not a deflection or a coping mechanism but it was a an actual opinion based on facts that this is not something to be alarmed about so basically my first communication to you was calm down which then your response was even though i didn’t use the words calm down your response was well listen you telling me to calm down is that’s the only thing i’m upset about because i actually made you mad i wasn’t that made you mad yeah because i wasn’t upset never in the history you know the saying in the history of calm down calm down doesn’t happen telling somebody to calm down got him to calm down and that that really set you off so then all of a sudden you were at the place that i was trying to get you to not be because of what i said and then i’m like oh god now i gotta now i get now i’m now you’re mad at me and then i’m mad at you because you’re mad at me because i’m doing it you just i think someone’s spitting in my eyeball right now listen don’t play the victim well it just happened don’t play the victim you’re mad at me because i’m trying to protect i’m trying to put you at ease she’s trying to calm you down and so i don’t need to be calm the lesson learned for me which what was the next step that’s not the end of the fight people want to know about the fight um i i simply said when did the arm wrestling come in well i simply said there was no armor wrestling i mean first of all i said that i was at that point you were mad well and then i was like i know i have a look on my face that i’m also very mad and i can’t hide it no and what i said was is this feels like what is what um happens not infrequently which is just like you’re getting on the track of hey i’m about to do the podcast and i i’m on that track right now and i have reconciled the particular concern that you’re bringing up and i’ve put it in a place in my brain that minimizes my anxiety related i’ve compartmentalized something that could bring me anxiety you are trying to open the compartment right before i go and do something where i want to be in a certain mind space and so i was like and i and this is what i say now i respect that because it’s i don’t that’s not how my brain works so i don’t so i forget sometimes because i’m not thinking about it because again that’s i’m not i’m i think i’m thinking about the podcast but i’m also thinking about the problem at the same time kind of back and forth and then i’ll you know if i was operating by myself it would be like okay i can have this intense thought process and then immediately detach from it and come in here and go into performance mode and i don’t think that’s true across the board in every circumstance oh yeah which i referred to another one where we both agreed that that wasn’t the case yeah i’m not saying i’m impervious to it but it frustrates you when something’s on your mind that we should talk about and you want to talk about it and you find yourself talking about it and then i’m putting up walls where even though i might have good reasons for why it’s like i’m i should dissolve the uh concern or of the subject matter you feel like it’s just a wall and saying nope i don’t want to talk about this and me exerting control in order to protect myself which frustrates you because you’re just like why can’t we just talk about whatever we’re thinking and or whatever i’m thinking you know in that moment and then i’m interpreting it as judgment that you’re like oh so is this a is this a low blow that i can’t multitask huh if i was as if i was as skilled as you are this is nothing you’re actually saying or even believing this is something that i project on you that like you’re judging me for not being as multitask able as you are and i’m like well it goes a lot deeper than that and then i’m defensive about something you haven’t even leveled at me so then oh this is really it’s really getting nasty and that’s why i guess this might be an eight in my mind really i i felt like it was i ultimately i felt like it was healthy because yeah me too because again if i had to do it all over again i would be like okay while i may like oh if i if i think if i thought about this a second for a second i’d be like oh if i bring this up right now then that’s a cue for link to have a conversation that we sought that we solved the problem that’s not what i’m thinking i’m just like just kind of just think i’m just thinking out loud so if i had to go back i would be like okay you have this concern but we’re about to do a podcast don’t bring it up wait until it’s and there’s another moment but and you turned the conversation to that in the moment which you know what i appreciate that i think that’s when that’s when it started to dissolve a little bit i think the only thing i did was to try to to try to settle things was i was like you know if i thought that you were alarmed and i thought there wasn’t a need for alarm for concrete reasons that i told you so i wasn’t just trying to give you an empty calm down but i know that’s infuriating so i’m sorry that my message came across that way but if i had to do it over again what i would have done is because i don’t i would have said like i said you now’s not a good time for me to engage in this problem i do have concerns about it but i also i don’t i don’t think i’m as concerned as you are but i don’t want to be so let’s table this conversation uh and and i would just ask could we do that because i also don’t expect for you to just be walking around on eggshells with everything you think trying to anticipate if it’s a good time for for link to be able to handle it you know it’s like i don’t want to be that guy and i don’t think it’s fair for you to have to if the onus isn’t on you i would say it’s a nice 50 50. so i think we’re if we both redid what we said then that would have been a beautiful thing i think and i do acknowledge that if we would have done that you might have been the one that experienced more frustration than me which is interesting if i hadn’t brought it up and you said i don’t want to talk about this right yeah and you’ve been like oh and then if you would just be like okay you would have experienced a little bit of frustration but i wouldn’t have so it’s not about right or wrong it’s not about like who’s got skills that the other one doesn’t have or you know so i feel i feel good about it now and you’ll feel good about it when when you get more clarity when we actually talk about it some more um yeah but i know but i think this is good because it’s a it’s a reminder to not um again i i don’t think it’s a walking on eggshells thing necessarily but i know that i have a tendency to um because this is the way if you were just to isolate the conversation in my brain apart from anybody that i’m talking to it would be like um so many disparate thoughts popping into my brain at all i probably have some form of mild adhd i don’t know i’ve never been diagnosed and i don’t want to take that from somebody who actually has has it but that’s not how adhd works there’s not like a certain number of people i mean i don’t want to you know belittle someone’s experience because i have a family full of people with adhd but um and so yeah it’s just a reminder that it’s just like okay i can’t exp i can’t bring it because i’m not saying that you’re the problem because it’s because it’s not because you care just characterize it as uh oh you’ve got you’re you’re you’re you’ve got you think you’ve got skills you didn’t say that but you said that’s where your mind could go is that you think you’ve got an ability that i don’t have i don’t see it as because technically multitasking is not a real thing right like you actually can’t do two things at once but there’s a switching between things very quickly uh that people i don’t know whether if you have a brain like mine whether that adhd or not like switching between things very quickly is just the way that your mind works but that becomes difficult when you’re interacting with someone whose brain doesn’t work in that way and you’re doing like 12 different things and it requires like certain emotional uh readiness to like do something like this so to me it’s just a it’s not i wouldn’t say it’s a frustration to bring it up and then be told that it’s just more of a reminder it’s like okay yes we we have we’ll have an opportunity to talk about that at another time so i’m sorry for bringing it up when i did well i don’t feel like i should forgive you because i feel like it was well i i appreciate the apology i forgive you as much as you need forgiveness whatever that means ah i need to be sorry for something now you already already apologized for what uh for [Music] i can’t remember exactly [Laughter] well you see oh you did you forgive and forget or did you just forget well because i’m i’m i wasn’t you know i got mad in the moment or not me i got i didn’t get mad in the moment i got i was like okay i don’t it feels like i’m you’re trying to control me right now that’s the other part of it is that like i don’t feel like i was like ironically the thing that i wish i would have done would have been more controlling like let’s not have this conversation right now you know there’s a better way to do it but that would be more controlling i feel like i was misinterpreted as being controlling when i had real reasons to say chill out and i didn’t say i think you are necessarily i said it feels like one of those moments in which you’re trying to say something to yourself but you’re saying it out loud to me and addressing a problem that i’m not currently experiencing and you’re trying to control and that was out that was only 50 of it and yeah so it’s and i thought you were being like i projected on you you were being superior you were projecting on me that i was being controlling because we know each other’s well i’m not going to say that’s a weakness of yours but that’s that’s a way that you’re that you can be perceived or even misinterpreted and yes i am controlling but not everything i a lot of it can be misinterpreted as control when it’s something else and yes i am superior and that can be missing so i’m just kidding and now in an effort to further control this podcast i kind of feel like do we want to go into this because should we table it for the next i think we have to table this now the thing that i was prepared to cause i want i want to give it to you to make you laugh with i want to give it it’s due but i’m ready to laugh i’m flexible you know i was i was really on this track to do this bit that i planned but i’m so flexible and i can move so quickly from one thing to another because we’re at this point in the podcast we haven’t heard any voicemails i’m going to move on to the voicemail i mean if we keep this up we won’t hear any voice it’s not a problem i’m letting you know it’s not a problem to take me off of the track should we hug it out there is no track my mind is an ice skating rink not a series of railroad trucks i’m should we you know what i’m saying there’s a difference maybe we should constantly riding on a zamboni hand-hugging throughout my mind can we there are no tracks something to have some sort of just like emotional conclusion should one of us cry what about just like a three-finger handshake okay it’s worth it there we go all right that’s what you do when you’re when you don’t want to hug it out but you want to say it’s over three fingers and a thumb i’m glad we did that what are we promoting today we’re promoting best friends back all right stevie’s podcast that she does with her uh high school best friend and the reason not only are we promoting it because uh we think you will enjoy it if you enjoy podcasts where two friends are connecting but this particular episode that just released is especially special because i was on it uh you know i’m not saying anything about me necessarily i’m just saying that if if you uh think that you would enjoy me having a conversation with two women uh one of them make it about that they’ll love that uh one of them being stupid hey i’m rhett you like hearing me talk how much more would you like hear me talk to two women it’s like what a great way to promote they’re gonna hate that they’re gonna they’re gonna delete they’re not gonna they’re not even they aren’t tv’s not gonna listen to this uh promo but she sure as heck listen to my conversation with her i guess because she was there uh yeah so we talked about school lunch which was my favorite time of the day jason what we’re saying is if you’re listening to this you can at least tolerate rhett so uh you know you know you’ll be able to do that on stevie and nagin’s show and then you might start realizing that you should be listening to their show instead of ours but hopefully you have room for both in your life it doesn’t work like adhd right all right all right okay let’s listen to our first voicemail hey red link it’s mitchell i was today years old when i learned out that kokomo wasn’t a real island i feel lied too okay thank you for keeping that short mitchell so um we’re talking about the beach boys song which it was called kokomo yeah aruba that’s real jamaica that’s real you’ve been there oh i want to take you to bermuda that’s real bahama i’ve been there bahama bahamas bahama is a real bahama i don’t know if it’s real bahama is one of no grand bahama is an island oh bahama come on pretty mama too that’s real that’s real montego that’s really been there you been there montego bay baby why don’t we go down to coca mo not real we’ll get there fast i mean how do you get somewhere fast it doesn’t exist and then we’ll take it slow that’s where i want to go way down the clock way down to coca mo you’re adding an extra syllable because they did in the thing but kokomo is is what it is and just when you speak it uh i gotta say as someone who attended a beach boys concert with my dad in which i danced with two drunk middle-aged women and also watched john stamos play the drums he’s still at it uh i already knew this uh you already knew this yeah i was maybe you know i was probably in my 30s when i learned it you got to say i was i was 33 years old when i learned that kokomo wasn’t real that’s pretty old uh and just to confirm that this came out when we were like 10 or 11. the most reliable website that i usually get my facts from is beach.com you know when you search so i’m going to let you know just so you understand our sources here i googled kokomo isn’t real and then that thing that’s a biased search that google throws up there to kind of give a little summary from a website without you having to go to that website this is what it says yeah yeah yeah i love that as far as we can tell there are there were no actual islands off the florida keys or elsewhere in 1988 as far as we at beach.com can tell that we’re named kokomo there is a kokomo indiana probably not talking about that there’s also you’d have to be north of indiana to go way down there’s also a kokomo island in florida island island in there you go in quotes but it is a tiki bar named for the song so it came after so oh uh it seems that co and then this is where beach.com is really beginning to uh take some license it seems that kokomo is more a state of mind than a real place [Laughter] okay so you know yeah it’s like but when you’re singing that song to your date and then then there’s like all right you should pack in their bags and then it’s like well before you packing your bags for this is just a state of mind you know brian wilson is gonna is gonna have to endure some some some wrath you think about how many people because first of all that song more than any other song makes you want to travel to the caribbean and it really just gets you and how many people have google kokomo because it’s like well they mention a lot of places that sound awesome but the place they really want to go is kokomo i mean that’s why they named the song that and that’s why the chorus ends with it yeah and then you look it up and you more people google kokomo with the intention of visiting it and then finding out that it isn’t real then probably any other uh fantasy place because people aren’t like googling atlantis thinking they can get a flight there they know that it’s a it’s a place that doesn’t exist like this has to hold the world record for most searches with the intent to travel to and then to find out that it’s not a real place can can you can that be a world record name another place i wasn’t listening to you because i was reading google yeah i can’t name another place if that’s what you’re asking uh kokomo is from the 1988 film cocktail which i haven’t seen it was not it was written by john phillips scott mckenzie mike love of the beach boys terry melcher i’m just trying to figure out why like what the lyrics described two lovers taking a trip to a relaxing place on kokomo a utopic island off the florida keys in addition to the fictional kokomo the song also makes reference to unfictional places uh gotta make it seem real yeah but i’m just trying to figure out it sounds like a place kokomo like why why did they do this it’s i just think it’s their genius mike love stated that wilson was not on kokomo because eugene landy wilson’s therapist turned collaborator refused to let brian sing on it i mean brian wilson did not sing unless landy was a producer and co-writer okay that doesn’t get too so brian wilson had nothing to do with it right oh the group later recorded a spanish language version of kokomo with participation from brian wilson hmm but we’re not really getting to like you’re trying to get to like the heart of the why like the why but let’s just move on i think i think today we’ve learned enough about kokomo let’s play another one you ready hi lincoln rhett my name is sarah and i was today years old when i learned vanilla extract has over 35 alcohol in it i knew there was some but not that much do you all know that i didn’t take care i did not know though so it’s 70 proof it’s because because you double the percentage yeah um in case you needed to learn that today 65 water good gracious 35 alcohol um let me hold on so it’s 65 water and 35 alcohol so all the vanilla part is alcohol um according to the fda vanilla extract is a mixture of vanilla scent and flavor characteristic and alcohol to be exact that fda requires an ethyl alcohol content of at least 35 for a product to be considered vanilla extract but because it’s not a characterizes a beverage it’s not regulated so you can just buy it off the shelf and yes there are articles um addressing the fact that kids are getting drunk off this stuff how okay you take a few extract is doled out first of all it’s usually dulled out into baked items that are going to be cooked and at that point it doesn’t matter right could i put it into well this is cooking it i put it in you know this little secret i put it into my pancake mix you know if you’re making pancakes you put a little vanilla is how i say it when i’m doing it on saturday uh you put a little vanilla into the uh into it and it makes it taste great my kids have never gotten drunk because we’re talking about drops and then we’re cooking no but you can get a big you can get a big uh bottle of it definitely but think about how hard that is to drink well i mean if you take a couple of shots you can get drunk well i think you deserve it if you’ve done that think about how hard it is to drink vodka i mean what yeah it’s it’s got the same alcohol content of jagermeister all right jagermeister is not great at bite so i think that’s easy to drink i don’t know if i’ve ever had it um kids are coming up with new ways to get a buzz and this is just one of the ways they’re doing it how does it work exactly according to kidsactivities.com apparently kids are going to the grocery store heading out of the baking aisle to buy a small bottle of bourbon vanilla extract yup last year many news stories about students sneaking into school with this undercover alcohol mixing vanilla extract into coffee drinking it and then heading to school where they are buzzed i mean i just have i listen i know kidsactivities.com is a great website uh i just have a lot of issues with this i i just don’t what i don’t think you can put vanilla extract into your coffee at the levels that are tolerable to make drinking a cup of coffee worth it and get drunk is it really happening yes is it really happening chris thomas a drug counselor with the wayne county mental health department told the wayne times is that wayne county north carolina uh i don’t know drinking the vanilla extract is similar to drinking a strong vanilla-flavored cough medicine yeah not fun scissor if you think vanilla extract is harmful you should know that pure peppermint extract contains 89 alcohol that’s even harder there we go and pure lemon extract is 83 alcohol both these extracts can cause intoxication so i mean choose your i’m just a flavor i’m just saying it’s best to talk with your teens to inform them that they can do this as a parent this is dangerous and it’s not worth being peer pressured into trying as a parent i do not believe this is something that we can be we should be concerned about well as a parent i believe that when you talk to him then there is to today i learned that day i learned how to get drunk how to get drunk without today i learned one more way to get drunk being carded hey i mean knowledge is power let’s listen to the next one all right here we go hey rhett and link yo um i have a couple of today i learned that were actually happened like a few minutes ago and i saw rhett tweeted this and i was like that’s perfect um my boyfriend informed me that the mask and the halloween franchise is just a william shatner mask painted white literally had no idea that is terrifying and the other one i was thinking about when i was at the grocery store was when you’re buying half a chicken you’re sharing a meal with someone else someone else is eating the other half of that chicken and it could be a stranger probably i guess you could buy two halves of the same chicken that would be like a whole chicken yeah but you understand what i mean all right love the show bye guys wow thanks for loving the show see this is so friendly yeah i don’t think she said her name i think she did well we’ll call her claire because i don’t remember thanks claire being a fan of the show for for giving us a twofer i uh let’s start with the chicken and that feels more like a shower thought than it’s a day i learned yeah it’s not something that like it’s not a i mean it is a fact i guess and uh it’s a it’s more of a realization you know today i realized and i think it ultimately applies to basically everything in the grocery store in some ways like you know when you get a can of corn well somebody else got a can of corn that’s probably got corn from the same cob in it you probably have corn from yeah you’re hundreds of cobs you’re sharing you’re just probably sharing corn with thousands of people i mean by that definition how many cows are in a burger well it depends on the burger the mcdonald’s is going to be potentially thousands a single package of conventional ground beef might contain meat from 100 400 even a thousand cows yes there have been studies that have found traces of dna from up to 1 000 cows in a single package of ground beef and how am i supposed to feel about this i feel nothing i feel nothing about it well do you feel i mean like i don’t have to feel something about everything what’s behind the question right i guess in one sense you know by spreading out the impact across multiple cows it’s like one cow is not suffering as much as a thousand cows so you’re saying they pluck a little bit that’s not how that’s not how it works they’d pluck a little bit and say we’ll come back for you uh this is not we the vegans are not gonna be happy about this point of the conversation uh yeah half a chicken i’m a proponent of plant-based meat and also lab-grown meat which i believe uh i’m excited about personally yeah um i’m excited about your excitement for uh but you know we’ll talk about that years and years to come uh the second part of this i knew did you know about this shatner thing i knew about this i think you learned this at the same time around the holiday of halloween people are talking about like halloween trivias so talking i i think it i remember the story being they’re making halloween the movie and they needed to get a mask and like somebody like a prop person like went to a store and like grabbed a mask and it was a william shot i can give you the story link another website star trek.com okay this is official this is an article from the website rick sternbach an illustrator and designer on star trek the motion picture the next generation deep space nine voyager and nemesis okay posted the following on his facebook page a few years back writing there are a number of historical threads through various production people over the years that validate that i’ve got one of those threads here i’ve told this story once or twice before i was hired as an illustrator on halloween 2 in 1981 working for production designer j michael riva in a supply cabinet at pumpkin pie productions we had one mask left from the original halloween and no idea where to get any others for the sequel it appeared that we’d need to go check out some of the toy stores and such but i noticed that there was some wording molded into the neck area there was a model number and don post studios i made a call read off the model number and the word came back it’s our captain kirk mask i asked if we could buy a number of them and was told we’ll give you a box just give us credit with that i turn the official dealings over to the higher ups brush with greatness so apparently in we it’s michael myers i don’t know we haven’t said michael myers but that’s the michael myers mask is a william shatner mask and it was used uh there’s a death mask created for star trek so i mean a death mask well does death mask mean something that i’d i guess it probably means something that we don’t understand because we don’t know anything didn’t you learn to speak klingon that one branch you went to uh but i think ultimately what it is is it was like a mask to be used on star trek when they needed someone to look like william shatner being dead or you know it’s basically it’s like the mask you put on a stunt double that you when you want him to look like the person well they cut his the eye holes bigger and and it makes it look less like william shatner like i can see the william shatner death mask here i think they enlarged the holes and they also took the hair which was combed into a william shatner part and they did it straight back which is unsettling so the michael meyer’s straight back here wow okay but we already knew that claire that’s i know that’s your alias we love you all right another i was today years old when i learned evergreens were called evergreens because the trees stay forever green yeah yeah there’s a reason you didn’t give your name because that is freaking embarrassing why i think it’s one of the it’s not that she thought it was called evergreen for another reason it’s just something you never think of it’s just that’s just what it’s called evergreen but it’s a it’s a word without meaning that just i picture a pine tree i feel like there’s like three things that i still remember from elementary school and this is one of them you know what i’m saying deciduous trees i mean i do know that but i think that that you’re getting a little bit more advanced i think thank you two of the three things that i that i remember from elementary school the first is that if you carve your name on a tree four feet up and the tree grows another hundred years it’ll still be four feet up okay okay because of the apical meristem because of the apical meristem and the second thing is the evergreen stays green all year i mean it’s like what else could it mean yeah it’s just like gee yeah you don’t have to give your name right and there’s it makes it harder for us to personalize us making fun of you mythical beast coming through and you know what that’s the whole point though it’s like it’s a bit of a confession i was yeah when i learned that evergreen meant that well it’s it’s a beautiful thing for for them to be so for them not to shed their leaves i prefer it you know but the thing is is that they do shed i mean i they don’t yeah they do go into a pine forest and just see how many pine needles are on the floor of the forest my papa cut down he had these like all the he had like a pine forest in his lawn there in in lillington and and hobby damn ah but um if he didn’t william shutter he was just he was so tired of like having to scrape up all these pine pine needles that he just cut down all the trees i was like they were it was beautiful do you think they shed their needles at a at a steady rate throughout the year or is there a moment of shedding and they’re just immediately replaced man we are really good while you’re looking that up i will say speaking of william shatner a moment of shedding for pine trees uh so if you’ve watched inside eats our show on the food network you know that we do voice over and we are kind of like you know we’re talking about what we’re doing when we’re doing it and uh because uh you had to go back to north carolina uh for lewis’s funeral we actually had to do our voice over sessions separate i did my voice over session at a place in burbank and you did yours in raleigh somewhere at different times right i did it in fayetteville fayetteville vietnam some sort of better some sort of like a bunker it was kind of a bunker um by getting that yeah stay tuned i was uh sitting in the chair there and going and getting getting ready to go and do my vo and the guy the operator engineer was like you know who was sitting in that chair yesterday william shatner really and then he said did you feel his butt imprint he was like can you can you smell the fear yes i can smell the fear but do you know why he said that because no he the engineer having done this for many many years was afraid so intimidated by william shatner that he was like i’m sure i leaked fear into this room can you still smell the fear from yesterday he i guess i mean and after the fact i guess he was validating that he’s an intimidating guy i’ve seen william shatner uh two times during my at a restaurant during my los angeles living what was the second time another restaurant i think it was another restaurant okay he’ll eat he will he eats just like the rest of us you know how he puts on his pants well he teleports into him yeah exactly uh although longleaf pines do retain some needles year-round in years with normal rainfall individual bundles of needles generally remain on the tree for two growing seasons and are shed in the fall so they do lose their stuff in the fall they just do it every two years and it’s immediately regenerated you feel good about this you feel like we learned you feel like we learned enough here yeah let’s move on i was today years old when i realized that uppercase letters are called uppercase because typesetters used to keep their capital letters in the top box therefore uppercase okay this is up all right so i was today years old when i learned this one we’ve we’ve we’ve hit one so there’s two they have two cases at least two there’s a there’s a uppercase and a lowercase that holds the typesetter holds their their things nobody needs to know this um you’re just trying to be stodgy you’re judging this it’s like you know they didn’t know this it’s cool lowercase uppercase man isn’t it isn’t it great that we don’t have to do that now that we have typewriters um how do you what do you what’s your general feeling about uppercase letters in general um i could do without them i don’t really think they’re necessary think about it that’s kind of what i was getting at yeah uh i mean you definitely i’m a fan of punctuation and i cannot stop putting two spaces after every period that i typed i’ve noticed that i cannot stop it’s like i you told me i don’t know it might have been nine months ago and that that was a big by the way uh i was today years old i was 43 years old when i learned that now you don’t have to space twice after the end of a period at the end of a sentence like i did not know that well an interesting and it makes total sense because why well there’s a period i think that our typing instructor spacebait i think even in 1990 it’s muscle memory before when we were learning in space base one thing to me we were learning that in 1994 i don’t even think it was important at the time i don’t think it’s like oh it’s changed that much since the 90s i just think it was never that important to do but it was technically correct according to one school of thought and we happen to go to that school yeah and once i’m graded on something i just can’t on i can’t unlearn it but like in general i think the only good reason for upper case i just want to clarify once i’m graded on something i completely forget it of course you’re normal but that’s what all unless it’s muscle memory and then it’s like once i’m told the right way to do something even if it’s wrong it’s really hard to undo it especially in muscle memory that i think that’s like a military technique the only valid reason for uppercase letters is passwords you can’t even convince me that they’re necessary for like proper proper nouns look john stamos okay let’s talk about him again i try to do that as much as i can you write john stamos and you don’t capitalize the j and the s you think i’m confused you might be referring to john stamos the impersonal noun exactly it’s like uh if you’re going it’s if if you’re traveling south to kokomo you might encounter uh john stamos which is just it’s kind of like an oasis it’s not johnson instead of water it’s a pile of drums um i mean i’m just look at john stamos i’m sure there’s there you know and you can use one eight eight eight your pod one or two to explain this to us but like just i know i’m just probably wrong about this but it’s like you think we can get by without them i think we can get by without them i think we can get by without him can we thrive without him defend the uppercase 188 earpod one wow today i learned that coffee cake isn’t actually cake flavored like coffee it’s cake you eat with coffee is that it you done okay i think i always knew this i don’t think i don’t think coffee cake is not made of coffee well i could see how it is it’s not it’s also not it’s just not flavored like coffee it doesn’t have a there’s no espresso it’s not tiramisu it’s it’s it’s to be it’s an accompanist to a company coffee yeah i guess in fairness you know how i know this because you’ve never eaten it no because i have eaten it oh and it doesn’t taste like coffee do you like it i do like it i like it because it feels it’s not as sweet i don’t like sweets that are too sweet especially i don’t know it just makes me feel a little better and i like some it’s a moist thing it’s a little it’s got some crumbly stuff on top and there’s some ribbons that’s like it’s like sugar it’s like it’s it’s like like granular sugar stuff on top and then it’s but it’s real moist on it i like a bready dessert you know well i think it was when i ate it as a kid my mom would have it and i always felt like i was eating something that was intended for adults only yeah it was like drinking vanilla extract straight you know what i mean it was like this is an adult dessert coffee cake kids are not supposed to have this you got at least your balls have to have dropped in order for you to really partake in this legally you know it’s what it felt like for me but it’s not true it’s just no that’s not true yeah yeah because it goes with coffee and you’re not really supposed to have coffee as a kid even though like shepherd’s been having a cup of coffee in the morning since he was about seven really and just in case you’re wondering if it causes uh the stunting of the growth i was looking at the wall the other day when we started measuring shepard with the little ten years ago no well in the in the house you’ve been at the beginning of the no at the beginning of the pandemic it hit us shepherd it seems to be growing we should do that thing that people do in their houses where you like mark their heights we had never done that and uh it’s in the kitchen just on the wall in the kitchen that’s one of my biggest regrets it’s not even in like a pantry just on the wall in the kitchen not doing that Shepherd has grown [Music] from five two to five ten over the course of the pandemic okay and actually i think it made me great because we started growing we started measuring him after he had already gotten a little bit about that in less than two years and there was one there was one part where it was like Jessie had done like july to august okay so no it was three months it was july to september so two months two months is what i’m trying to say because it was a seven something in the nine something and he had grown over one inch i think you know when you talk about growing like a weed there’s some like apparently there’s this seaweed and it’s off the coast of catalina with your little scuba stuff you might be able to go see this okay um it’s called it’s actually a big deal don’t call it my little scuba stuff with your big scuba stuff it requires lots of um testing know-how certification i just don’t want to dance i don’t want to talk about it because it makes me anxious okay bladder seaweed think it’s called yeah the ones that have the bulb i guess i think it grows like 12 feet a day or something like that i don’t know i’m not gonna do it today i learned about this you can look it up at beach.com but um yeah shepherd shot up that’s your point but no but you can see it growing and i think that if you’re going if a person is growing an inch in two months i think you could probably catch it on like an iphone well that i mean [Laughter] [Music] yeah forget putting notches on your wall just do a time lapse with your iphone yeah there’s a time-lapse feature yeah there’s a certain i mean i i remember growing pains i mean you definitely have some some pain if you’re growing that fast because i didn’t that’s not what happened with me i didn’t i remember i wasn’t normal and then tall i was just tall out of straight out of the womb like two like three years into my life i was already tall and so there was never it was just always a lot of growth but not i mean he said he had a growth spurt yeah he came out of nowhere yeah it’s wild man my name’s abby um calling this one is for link oh no yeah um today i learned that in the u.s peanut butter must contain 90 peanuts otherwise it has to be called peanuts bread so yeah just remember that thanks abby so peanuts i mean but where do you get peanut spread i mean what even is peanut spread have i been eating it i mean jif is peanuts bread i would think it’s you know that there’s that brand of peanut butter where they mix it with all kinds of different things like oh there’s the peanut butter with chocolate and there’s a peanut butter with so and so i think that they probably have to call that peanut spread because they’re messing up their percentages oh i mean what else could you put in peanut butter coke i’m talking about cocaine why would you talk about that i don’t know because this feels like we grew up in a time where that people were just putting cocaine in different things protein peanuts spread yeah i mean it’s like if there’s like i’m shopping for peanut spread now yeah it’s like when you’ve got dark chocolate in it well that earth balance right there we’ve had that before click on that and that’s got coconut in it yeah it’s got coconut in it that’s why creamier tasting lighter spreading fancier topping i mean we need to send this over to spork i want to know what the best peanut spread is because i like the idea of of a good spread you know spread um yeah this is intriguing i mean there’s some there’s some good-looking peanut spreads but because it’s a mixture of other stuff sinister labs makes a peanut spread honey grim cracker oh yes honey cinnamon flavored peanut spread yep he’s got the other stuff in it so it just can’t be peanut what do you think is more important uppercase letters or the people who determine that you can’t call something peanut butter unless it’s got 90 like do you like what do you think would change if that person didn’t exist i think the regulations need not apply to peanut butter but they do it’s just like one of those things where it’s like the the the regulations aren’t to protect people from peanut butter of course there is the allergies but if you’re getting peanut butter and peanut spread you’re going to be allergic either way i think i think it’s for other things where it’s like you just can’t call something something people buy it think they’re eating it i mean that’s pretty important maybe not for peanut butter like certain cheeses okay so i know you can’t call something cheese unless it’s actually cheese and technically american cheese is not like a craft single or something is not american cheese so it’s called cheese product or something like that yeah is that important i mean maybe it is again i’m just i’m asking the question people i do think there’s places where it’s important but i still don’t know if cheese is one of them okay so i don’t know what it is it could be i don’t know a certain point it’s the truth in advertising yeah if it’s if it’s some sort of medicine yeah let’s limit it i mean it’s good to know though i mean it’s like uh because now i’ve just opened up my palette you know i also like peanut butter spreads it feels like some of these things may exist so that you could say say you could talk about it at a party and this is not the kind of thing that you want to party talk peanut spread yeah yeah this is not this doesn’t meet the criteria kokomo not being a real place that’s party talk that does oh you you know peanut butter has to be 90 peanuts are you if it’s not it’s peanut spread are you really saying that guy should be asked to leave the party that this part of the podcast is starting to suck is that really what you’re saying no everything that we say doesn’t have to be repeatable at a party because then it just all becomes one big blur so this is not party talk it’s like you got to have some ebbs and flows you got to have some dynamic range to your conversation i don’t think it’s bad i’m just saying it’s just not party talk it’s just something to take to your you know your own brand you’re right what you just heard was the boring part of this ear biscuit episode that’s not what i was saying now you can appreciate this next recording hello my name is jessica and i was 20 years old when i learned that a cloud can weigh over a million pounds due to the amount of water that can be found inside of it have a great day everyone directed directed out to the audience an awareness that this would be played for millions of listeners millions yep of listeners have now learned i mean through her did you give her name yes jessica with all the cloud facts millions of people have learned through jessica that you a clown can weigh a million tons a million pounds well and i gotta get a listener well i can verify it link you don’t have to play it again oh good uh znews.india.com they have clouds as per research an average cumulus cloud weighs an incredible 500 000 kilograms or 1.1 million pounds the equivalent weight the average one well that’s just an average that that makes it even more party talk you know the average it’s not that a cloud could it’s that the average one does the equivalent weight of 100 plus elephants a lot more than you think right okay listen you don’t need that clouds may look so light and fluffy but the fact is they’re actually quite heavy and then the question that follows is well if they’re so heavy why don’t they fall and then it’s like ding ding ding ever heard of rain got him can you still say got him yeah you just did it felt appropriate yeah man cause you did if they’re heavy why don’t they fall ding ding [Applause] but you better follow up with something everybody needs to hear it’s very condescending you know if you’re gonna ding ding somebody at a and party uh uh yeah it’s like it seems like something you’d try [Laughter] don’t have i mean it’s one thing to say calm down in a fight there’s another thing to ding ding somebody in the fight i’ve never offended anyone at a party it’s just like what’s the point of this fight anyway ding ding ding ding ding you know it’s like try that with Jessie next time you guys get into it that sounds like yeah it sounds like you’re trying to end the fight with the [ __ ] with the bell uh if you’re in a fight and you go to the corner oh they also start the rounds don’t they yeah they do both yeah so it’s really hard both ways ah okay but i just think you should try it in a fight because it’s in a game show way it’s all about the tone moving along hi um my name is leah and i was today years old when i learned that when put into water limes uh they sink the lemons they float i’m not saying limes are witches but i’m also not not saying that okay have a good one bye oh god now this aaliyah this feels not only like something that you would talk about at a party but something you would demonstrate and then after you got done with it you’d be like ding ding ding which that’s optional which one of these are these gonna float or sink and then everybody would be like are we that drunk ding ding ding you know like yes that feels like a magic thing to do is it real did you follow this one up limes and lemons both have densities that are very close to water so you would expect that they would both float ding ding ding however however limes are slightly denser than lemons which is why they sink in lemons float huh across the board i wonder i mean there’s got to be outliers you could probably find a floating floating line floating lime that’d be a good name for a bar in kokomo the floating lime yep tonight john stamos solo drums oh there’s a mildly interesting reddit thread about this i see a picture right here the lemon’s at the top wow and it’s in one of those flavored water things that’s kind of cool like if you’ve got a clear uh water spigot container you get the lemons are at the top and the limes are at the bottom so it’s like a demonstration i love when they put fruit in water like that in like a hotel lobby dang there’s some good water they should put fruit in water towers there’s probably a community out there that’s considering that well i think that might like somewhere in the northwest progressive place well do you hear about that little city outside of portland they got strawberries in the water tower well some i mean everybody’s loves it my hydra flask you know my trusty big black hydro flask never leave home without it well it went missing and then all of a sudden it turned up and i started drinking out of it again and i was like fruity it was fruity there was like a residual fruit in it and and i’ll tell you someone obviously hadn’t had fruitified my hydroflask and it took somebody this is weird somebody at your house somebody at my house put some and it might have been like put they put tea in there they did something with it this doesn’t seem like something that could happen to your hydro flask i know your own because it’s always on my person i don’t know that’s troubling do you know who did it no i you know why i didn’t ask because you kind of liked it because i kind of liked it i think you’re on to something put it in the put it in the water supply i mean they put fluoride in there to control our brains why don’t they also put fruit flavor in there i think we can sneak somewhere around here in l.a it’s like just just south of the just treatment plant we’re climbing up a water tower like those kids who are gonna deface it but we just have a big bucket of strawberries we’re just trying to like spice up people’s like just fruitify it a little bit i mean i wasn’t complaining i was like wow and it took about it took a long time to get rid of that taste and now i miss and miss it i mean i mean i think like six weeks this is why i drink lacroix i only put water in my hydro flask so i don’t have to really wash it i wash the cap but like you don’t have to wash out fruit fruit’s clean we need to verify that before we would load it in the water tower well i’ll just search right now it is fruit it’s fruit cleansing it’s fruit clean yeah germs on the peel or skin can get inside fruits and vegetables when you cut them washing things that’s a myth uh fruit or sterile you heard it here with soap detergent or commercial produce wash is not recommended by the cd you can rub fruit on an open wound is the water in fruit clean fruit water how could we like what we could call it we probably do need to face the take the name of the town off of the water tower and just put fruit water on the on it so people know that what we’ve done here’s an article do you really need to wash fruit before you eat it this is a men’s health article of course this is this is what men if you’re a man you really gotta look like a dork and like put this apple under the sink now i’ll wash a tater that’s obvious because it’s so it’s a root vegetable it’s been in the dirt ding ding ding ding ding an apple’s just been in the air okay okay yes i know about pesticides don’t you know don’t call 188 earpod one and let us know that hey rhett and link yeah first time uh today i learned a pretty interesting fact that if you speak buffalo eight times in a row it grammatically counts as a sentence and it would sound like buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo uh have fun with that one what okay it grammatically counts as a sentence because buffalo can function as every part of speech it can be a noun it can be well that’s an animal of how do you ver why is buffalo a verb i don’t know look it up dictionary.com it could also be an adjective it could it’s also a place buffalo new york um the verb for buffalo is to overall or intimidate someone she didn’t like being buffaloed okay there you go so buffalo i don’t see an adjective okay i i think i can figure this out buffalo buffalo so these are buffalo from buffalo okay yep buffalo buffalo buffalo so those buffalo from buffalo are doing the act of buffaloing buffalo other buffalo yep so we’re four deep now i don’t know where to go we’re done buffalo buffalo so that’s buffalo from buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo other buffalo from buffalo so now we’re five deep what buffalo buffalo buffalo they verb buffalo buffalo buffalo five five but no there’s nobody but fellow but no no no no no no no uh i’m sure it’s somebody’s name he’s a really buffalo sentence we’re not just gonna take your word for it oh you know what i think we just figured it out link it’s not eight it’s five a history of the sentence buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo from william j rappaport my favorite rapaport oh is that michael’s older brother the author oh no no look see also so the history okay the original one was five which we just got easily so may 4th 2008 buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo i think i did it eight times is also he was right sorry to doubt you for a second okay so um it so it was originally okay so this is what it is the parts of speech okay oh here’s a sentence diagram link oh i i love diagramming sentences so this traditional sentence diagram of this is okay here the part parsed out as a description those buffalo buffalo whom buffalo buffalo buffalo what well you i think you have to says to crack the code of this mystical combo there are diagrams articles and videos all over the internet some can be helpful others make an already confusing sentence even more convincing well that settles it for me you know what i’m not ready to talk about this i’m just not in the right headspace i think you’ve got a good question here but i’m not ready to answer it because i need to perform well on this podcast well here is here is another this is how you can this is how you can understand it bison from buffalo new york who are intimidated by other bison in their community also happen to intimidate other bison in their community that’s what the sentence means so it’s buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo place buffalo buffalo i don’t know how the you get past i don’t know what happens we only need three more buffalo from buffalo but yeah buffalo buffalo oh buffalo from buffalo buffalo buffalo from buffalo do the bison one again so it’s like let me let me do it buffalo bison buffalo buffalo bison yes then what buffalo buffalo bison that’s yeah that’s right but how does that how can you do that without a comma what am i missing that’s why i’m not good at chess i can only go five bites buffalo what you really should ask is like how can you do it without capital letters oh yeah oh shoot because buff come full circle we freaking we freaking derived why you need capital letters uppercase letters are necessary because of this sentence uppercase they’re okay so you know that it’s the we’re talking about this the town of buffalo and not the animal or the verb oh yeah because here it is with buffalo buffalo you’re just saying buffalo dude yo your emphasis helps a little bit but i mean buffalo anyone who like there’s so few people who care about this buffalo new york buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo new york buffalo there’s there’s three there’s two verbs in a row because they buffalo you see there see that that’s it no that’s a v i can see it it’s there’s not there can’t be two verbs in it it’s proper noun adjective no no see we go to the wiki i believe we have it go to the wiki that’s called buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo and then you’ll learn all about it okay i’m exhausted let’s end this i yeah i mean i had a lot of fun i mean there’s a reason why it’s today i learned and the implication is that it’s only one thing it’s like once you learn the one thing it’s like you hang it up for that that’s been my philosophy i just got to say it once i learned the one thing i’m done for the day i had an incredible time i much prefer this method okay just so just so you know in terms of what i’m only speaking for myself i’m talking about you you’re talking about the 188 earpod one i much prefer hearing your voice than just reading your tweet yeah you got to really mean it there’s a there’s a barrier to entry and it’s personal and i like it call in and let us know what you think i’d like to be able to respond to some of your responses and also be looking on twitter but you know what you can also use hashtag your biscuits because we’re we’re not going to be reading that we’re still reading let me give my wreck yeah you know what i’m changing it on the fly this is a dynamic situation there’s uh could you example style i recommend if you have children go ahead and start lining them up on the wall and making the tick marks it’s never too late to start do it today do it today and then when they have their friends come over get do it to some of them too lando’s on our wall i remember that and then we kind of fell out of that he needs to come back over and get measured all right yeah i’ll send him over well i think i was measured too but i was an adult i’m not even on the wall i don’t think right because it’s just intimidating hey you need to start measuring your shrinking yup do it today take action and don’t forget to call 180 you’re really pushing it to watch more ear biscuits click on the playlist on the right to watch the previous episode of your biscuits click on the playlist to the left and don’t forget to click on the circular icon to subscribe if you prefer to listen to this podcast it’s available on all your favorite podcast platforms thanks for being your mythical best you