Welcome to “Ear Biscuits,” the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, I have no clue what you’re gonna talk about. I’m back, man. You’re back. One of the things that I do wanna talk about, I didn’t tell you about this, was, you know, reached a big milestone with my second child, Lincoln. Sending him out of the house, sending him off to college. Yep, but he didn’t get a full podcast about it because, you know, he’s the second one. Middle child. He’s a middle child. But I hadn’t told you about the details of it and something specific that happened, that… Walking around crying, heaving crying, was that part of it? Well, I will say that I embarrassed myself in front of- Oh. The faculty. Oh, oh. So that’s my teaser. What do you wanna talk about? Well, I know you talked about your trip. I have just a little tidbit from my trip that I wanna talk about. You’re talking about your solo camping trip that I explained in the last episode that we had tandem solo camping trips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I didn’t really talk about yours except for like the 10 minute meeting that we had in the middle of not ever seeing anyone else for five days. Yeah, so I’ll talk a little bit about that. I’ll tell you where I’ve been and why I kind of sound like I sound right now. Yeah, well, you still, I mean, you still sound sick. I’m not. Everybody knows that you’ve been sick, but I mean, you’re still sick. I’m not sick in the way that- Sounding. I’m not sick in the way that matters. I’ve been through a battle. I’ve been through a week long battle. And so my body is just like, well, we haven’t completely- What about me having to carry all the weight here at Mythical? Well, Jenna was here. Yeah. I think you’re okay. Yeah, you’re right. She pretty much carried the weight. And I think she’s not here today. I think it’s either one or the other then. She had to leave. After doing this podcast with you, she had to leave town. No. She did leave town. But you should be threatened, I’m just gonna tell you that. And I also have- ‘Cause when she comes back, I need to make a tough choice. Okay. I also have an update for you. One of the things that I did while I was sick was I watched a lot of programming, as I like to say, as a old man. I never watch television anymore, and I watch movies occasionally, but like I just never sit down and binge a show. Like, I mean, that’s something I did 15 years ago maybe, but I just don’t have time for it anymore, so I did that. That’s the silver lining of being sick. I watched an entire season of a television show in one day. Wow. If your eyes get any bigger, you might let some germs in. And I’ll talk to you about that show, and I’m gonna tell you what I learned. Oh, we’re still in teaser mode? About something because it applies to you, and I think it elucidates something that happened to you that you’ve talked about on this podcast before. Okay. But I’ll start with a little, just a quick update on what I experienced on the solo trip, most notably. I was, as you know, you probably already talked about the fact that I found an incredible campsite that then you enjoyed for a couple days. You didn’t listen to my podcast without you? It hasn’t even come out yet. But no, I’m not going to listen to it. So, no on both counts. It was really good I thought. I’m sure it was. I’m sure I’ll see inevitably- I thought I got great feedback in the future about it. I’m sure I’ll be inevitably confronted with clips from it in various forms of social media that the algorithm thinks that I’m interested in. The algorithm thinks that I’m interested in Mythical content. And when I see it, I’m like, how should I tell, what should I tell the algorithm about this? You know what I’m saying? Should I tell it that- I mean, we kind of have a vested interest in- Oh, I always like it. If something Mythical comes in the algorithm, I’ll heart it and move on, ’cause I’m like, what does that tell the algorithm, that he likes it, but he doesn’t like it to watch a lot of it. Yeah, I think you actually need to watch it. But what’s one guy gonna do? I feel like by liking it and moving on, I’m not contributing to it. Right, okay. Negatively or positively. All right. It’s like, well, I never saw it. So… That campsite that I found, which was so beautiful. It was the best campsite I’ve ever seen. You gave me a solid. One of the best campsites. I thought I was giving you a solid when we camp swapped. You want me to give you a campsite review on your campsite? I know it wasn’t as good, but there wasn’t enough cloud cover to give you a stunning sunset. I’m just gonna be honest with you, on a scale of one to 10 with the sunset that I could see through the trees the night that you got to enjoy the sunset, that campsite’s a 10, nine. Okay, nine. Yeah. Without the sunset, because that sunset didn’t happen the next day, ’cause I don’t know how sunsets work, but I kept watching it and just waiting for it to do the beautiful- It was a cloud cover. Barrage of colors that happened the night before. You missed out, man. And I was like, “It’s not gonna happen. “It’s not gonna happen.” I was like, “Well, maybe it happens.” I literally sat there and I was like, “Maybe it happens right before the sun goes down.” And then I just kinda watched the sun go away, and I was like, “Maybe it happens right after the sun goes down.” And I was- We were having like opposite experiences. And I’m sitting there looking at it thinking- You were having the most disappointing- That campsite’s a four. When the sun doesn’t set right. Without the sunset. Just being honest with you. It’s a four. You sent me to a four. Hey man, I did the best I could. But while I was at that wonderful campsite… Actually the, not the first night I spent there, but when I woke up and I was lying on the rock overlooking that lake. Yeah, yeah, you’re talking about the great campsite. Yeah. I was listening to some synth music. You know so many genres. Synth music. I was listening to that Mort Garson that you- Oh yeah, he’s great. And… He’s a synth pioneer. And the music is- Whimsical. Weird and whimsical. Depends on what album you’re on. But I was listening to it, and then I would notice like this dissonant synth that he put into one of the songs. I was like, “Oh, that’s an interesting choice, Mort. “Interesting choice. “Dissonant synth.” And then the next song rolled around. I was like, “Another dissonant synth.” Have I never noticed these dissonant synths that seem ill-timed outta nowhere? Okay. Third song rolls around, it happens again. I’m like, and I turn the music off and I wait. And then I hear, Oh. Coming from the fucking van! Dissonant synth. It was coming from the van. It wasn’t Mort, it was the van! Now, it actually, it makes me feel weird when I talk about it because it was so jarring to me, and it really impacted my entire trip. Something happened- When you’re alone, all bets are off in terms of how any anomaly can be taken, processed and interpreted. It didn’t scare. It didn’t scare me, but it annoyed me. And it was pretty damn loud. And it turns out that it was the- Coming from where in the van? The automatic awning. Yeah, you push a button Awning goes out. Right. And I bet, you know what? So there’s a wind sensor. And if you drive off with the awning out, the awning will go in. And if a big wind comes up- Well, as soon as you crank the van up, it automatically closes. Yeah, ’cause you don’t wanna be driving down the street with an awning out by accident. But if a big gust of wind comes up, it’ll sense that and go in too. Yeah. So… It’s pretty smart. There is a motion detector on the edge of the awning precisely to detect wind and then to bring it in. ‘Cause it was out, and there wasn’t a lot of wind on that trip. I mean, it was crazy. The weather was super hot, but it was also not very windy on top of a mountain, which was unusual. But a little wind that day, and it caused it to go off. But then it started going every 30 seconds. Eventually I read the manual and learned that it said that it was the batteries needed to be replaced in the motion sensor, which by the way, I did replace and it didn’t stop. Oh, wow. You went deep. You had batteries to replace it? I took two batteries out of like a flashlight that I had. Two AA batteries. You MacGyver. And I, like, literally, there was some old men hiking that trail where… When I was gonna, when I met you and we had our little rendezvous. Yeah. Rendezvous. We didn’t get out of the car. No. It made it sound like we like went to a campsite and, you know? No, no. Fondled one another, but that’s not what happened. It didn’t sound like that. No, I’m just trying to feed the rumors. I’m just making sure that- Fondled each other? Yeah, I just, I mean, there’s people out there who live their life- I barely hung out the window. Wanting to believe that we had a rendezvous. I barely made eye contact with you. I know. I looked at your dog more than you. But I’m interested in making those people, I want them clicking. They gotta keep clicking. You trying to give this thing a title? The fondling rendezvous. We’re so desperate. We went to that bull tree. The bull tree trail. Yes, I’ve already talked all about it. You should have listened to the podcast. But it’s not out. And the old men were there. And I was like, “Hey guys, do you have a screwdriver?” I was like, “I’m going a little bit crazy here. “This thing’s making this noise.” Like it was- Oh wow. So loud that like as my van was parked in a parking lot with like two other people, I was like kind of embarrassed. And now as I began to walk that trail, I was like, “How deep into the woods am I gonna get “before I stop hearing my van’s noise?” You may live the rest of your life hearing it. And first of all, I’m outta service. Like, I don’t have cell service in any of these spots. But I was like, “I’m gonna replace the batteries myself.” I replaced the batteries. The sound never went away. I had to put earplugs in for two nights. Ooh. To sleep. And eventually on the way back home is when the sound stopped. With no explanation. I don’t- Dude, that kinda sucks, man. I think it was a short. Now all this to say- You know what? Don’t listen to the previous podcast where I gushed about how amazing my solo trip was, how life-changing it was, how I can’t stop thinking about how I want to experience it again. It’s my new happy place that I close my eyes and picture. I’m happy for you. I’m happy for you. Don’t. But I don’t want to rub it in. Well, with or without the sound- I would not have had that experience because- I mean, I guess this is going to serve as my “Ear Biscuits” announcement. I don’t know when I’ll talk about this on my own social media or whatever. But, you know, I do a little music on the side as James and the Shame, and I didn’t really expect this to happen this year, but a couple of things fell into place, and I’ve got a little EP that’s coming out in November. James and the Shame is back with an eep. How many songs is that? Well, technically six or less. And right now it looks like it is gonna be six. We’ve got five completely mixed and mastered. And there’s one that we’re dialing it in. We’re trying to figure some stuff out. However, a little teaser, I mean, someone that you may or may not know that may or may not be in this room, may, I don’t know, may have been involved in one of the tracks. That’s pretty exciting. More on that later. Yeah. But the first track- Someone who’s known for his beatboxing skills. Yeah. Yep, exactly. All the drums on the entire EP are from His mouth. Ironically, the project is called “Nothing Left to Love.” I’ll talk about this. You know, I don’t think for the follow up EP you do a whole podcast or listening party. And that was kind of like, that was like the first go around. But I’ll probably talk about this in different pieces or whatever. You can talk about it. As different things come out. “Nothing Left to Love.” “Nothing Left to Love,” which is the name of that first track that- Oh yeah. That you’ve heard other than the one that you may or may not be involved with. Which I loved. And that’s the first single. That’s the first single, but also the name of the EP. I don’t know. I don’t know what convention is, and I don’t really care, and so I just kind of do it what feels right. And so the name of the EP is “Nothing Left to Love,” that’s also the name of the first single. Okay. Because it’s basically sort of like an ode to Enneagram threes, you know, performance minded people, people who are just doing stuff, and they’re just trying to do more and more stuff. And they don’t know exactly why they’re trying to fill the empty void inside by doing stuff. Okay. Achieving things. And that lyric will make sense. I’ll talk about it later. Anyway, so the ironic thing is, is that this whole album is kind of an example of that. It’s just like, “Why do more?” I don’t know. I can’t help myself. And so I just did it and here it is, and I’m throwing it out there, whatever. But then what I did is I turned my solo trip into a work trip in which I was going to film myself singing some of these songs out in these beautiful locations. Spoiler alert, at least for that first track, I don’t think any of the stuff I shot for the first song is gonna work because I just couldn’t ever sing it right. It’s not an easy song for me to sing. Oh, it was a live performance, not lip sync stuff? Yeah, yeah. It’s like, you know, it’s kind of a TikTok trend that I actually I’m kind of into is just like people setting up a microphone like in the wilderness and singing a song. And I was like, “Oh, this is actually kind of a cool vibe for this album.” And so… So a lot- You told me you were gonna do this. And I was like, I was a little bummed for you. I mean, I was happy for you that this was coming out and that you had this time just with you and your guitar and I guess your camera and your beeping van to like, you know, to cover your own songs. But I was like, okay, yeah, so now your solo trip is not, it becomes a work. I think it’s gonna feel different. So I was a little bummed for you. But this is the rub. I was concerned for you. This is the rub, this is rub. When am I gonna go into such a beautiful location? And I’m not gonna make a special trip for this because my job is what we do at Mythical. My job isn’t my music, it’s my side project. And so it fits on the side. It wasn’t gonna take all of your time anyway. No, but because I haven’t shot video in a long, like the only video that we’ve shot- Everything takes longer than you think. Is like the vlogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From a couple years ago, which now we even made the decision to not do that and just let, you know, other folks shoot that. But I got this new camera, which I’m gonna, you know, I am excited about this. Okay. Okay, so you know that I bought that Pentax for like 100 bucks or whatever. Like, the film camera. Yeah, where you would develop the film. And I’ve still got like four or five undeveloped rolls of film, ’cause it’s a pain in the ass to get film developed. And then I stopped taking it with me on trips because I had to like get the guy at the TSA to like take a bag and not take the film through the new machines and stuff. Oh. But I really love photography. And I was like, “I wanna be able to take cool pictures and stuff.” That was a layer. It was a layer. Oh, well it- It was a phase. Oh, no, no. That has ended. No, it hasn’t ended. Film camera phase is over. No, it isn’t. Because I started watching all these YouTube videos, and so I started learning about Fujifilm cameras, right? And when I say Fujifilm, I mean Fujifilm the brand. And so they’ve got these, and this is for those people who like know about this stuff, I’m just gonna sound like a nimwit. A nimwit? A dimwit. Yeah. A nimrod or a dimwit. No, you sound like a nimwit. A nimwit. I know nothing. So they have these film recipes essentially where people have figured out how to, well, Fuji also contributes to this. Basically there’s settings on the camera, and then people have like dialed them in in very specific ways to like mimic very particular films. And you can get really close to like, oh, if you were to shoot on film with this film. It’s not perfect, but if you’re just me and you’re just going for vibes- When you say emulate films, you’re not talking about like “Doctor Zhivago.” You’re talking about- Specific film stocks. Film stocks, okay. So like Portra 400 or whatever. Okay. And so I’ve been experimenting with that. You’re losing me. But also it has some really cool settings for shooting video that look very cinematic in a way that just like got a cool vibe. So everything I shot was in that kind of like filmic vibe. But, you know, just because I’ve got the camera out and I have a very little bit of battery, I’m going to, I got a setting on here. It’s called ’70s Summer. I’m going to take some ’70s summer shots, ’cause by the way- What should I do? I’m getting back into taking more photos. Okay. So a lot of my photos will be of you. Okay. Because you’re here. And just so you know. So just do cool stuff. Make cool faces. Yeah, oh, that’s cool. Okay, there’s a little too much white on your shirt. You know, kinda look more pensive. I’m leaning back. Maybe I’ll be forward. Action shot. Oh yeah, okay, that’s it. Prayer. Oh, that’s, well, let me switch that up. That’s… Wow. I’m praying, but do I have a double chin when I pray? I don’t wanna… Do it again. Pray some more. Okay, and I got a different setting in here. Let me go to that. Let me go to my… Is it- I have a black and white negative setting, which is kind of crazy. It’s crazy what this one looks like. And I’m gonna act like I’m covering up the lens. Oh, that was a cool shot. Again. Okay, now just pensive again. Pray again. Pray again? Yeah, you’re praying in black and white now. Dear God, let him get done with this quickly, because I’m bored out of my mind. Okay, I got some good shots. Okay, you’re gonna be impressed with that. Okay. Maybe what we’ll do is we’ll just put ’em right here in the- Yeah, look at that. Immediate gratification. If you’re watching. If you’re watching. This is all about, again- So you took this camera- I’m always thinking about strategy, you gotta understand. I took pictures of you. Yes. So that the people who just listen will be like, “Well, now I gotta watch.” Yeah. Two views. Double views. Double views. But when that sound happened. I started listening to it, and I was like, “I think it’s happening at a pretty predictable rate.” I don’t know how many seconds it is, so I just like, I was kind of going nuts. I got my guitar out ’cause I had my- You didn’t have a dog. That would’ve helped. No, a dog would’ve been a nightmare in this situation when you’re trying to film yourself singing. Yeah, that’s true. So I start playing, and I kind of time out like a certain pace and a chord structure that will predictably have spaces for this sound. Okay. And to embrace it. And it felt like, like a, you know, this sort of- Lemonade outta lemons. Yeah, exactly. So I wrote a song and I was like, this song, this song about this beep is probably gonna get more traction than any of my actual music. You know what I’m saying? You wrote a song about the beep. So I wrote a song about the beep. And included the beep. Which will be released at some point. I mean, not as like a, I mean, it’ll be on my social media or whatever. Again, it’s all about playing the game, Link. You gotta get people to care about it. It’s all about achieving. Yeah, exactly. Ironically. So anyway, that was what my, I think I actually learned quite a bit. I journaled quite a bit. Did you journal? A little. I jotted. I would not call it journaling. More of a summary. Because I, you know, man, it’s just like, I’m continuing… The thing that therapy has allowed me to do, I’ve always known that I’ve been, you know, everybody’s a little bit messed up, but I’ve always known that- A dimrod. Nimwit. Yeah. I’ve always known that I’ve got issues that, you know, everybody’s got issues you gotta work through throughout your life. But I think- Is it time for the Better Help integration? I think that therapy gave me tools to like- Yeah, yeah. Go up to the proverbial battery compartment in your awning and unscrew it. Yes. Do you know what I’m saying? Yeah. It gives you some tools. So I think that’s one of the things that the trip was able to do for me. I was like, this trip is so emblematic of the way that I approach things, which is like, you got a little bit of time. Yes, you’re relaxing, but this is also a great opportunity for you to do the things that you need to do for this thing that you’ve signed yourself up for that no one asked you to do. Right. No one asked for. Well, so, okay, some people asked for more music. I will say that. There are people who ask for more music. But this whole thing has been about me doing stuff for me, you know? I felt like these songs were in there. I gotta get ’em out. But still, I found a way to turn it into work and then this started happening. And I was like, what does that beep represent, you know? And I’m still figuring out what it represents, but I did write a song about it. It’s the gnawing reality that you still have work to do. Well- And so do I. We basically, in totally different ways, we had the same experience of getting in touch with ourselves, and like for me, experiencing the perfection of my campsite and my environment exposed my dependence on that. So, you know, there was a lot of self-exploration that I think you were having, you know, we were both having. So I think that’s super cool. Well, I think the thing that I ended up writing down, now that I’m thinking about it, was this beep. What it symbolizes to me is that you come up here to the mountains to be alone, to get away from everything, to get away from everyone, but you’re still with yourself. You know what I’m saying? Wherever you go, there you are. And yourself is not, I mean, it’s not something that you, in many senses, it’s not something that you like. It’s something that comes with issues and things that you gotta deal with. You know what I’m saying? Like, if you’re being honest with yourself, you got a lot of shit that you brought up here besides this van that’s messing up. Just the guy that came up here with me, which is me, got a lot of shit that he brought. And it’s just on display for myself in this place. I’m glad you were able to turn the frustration into some sort of meaning. You were able to pivot and not just be miserable. I mean, you were miserable in a sense, but not as miserable as you could have been. You know, you used it. Yeah. Even the next morning, I went to sleep that night with those, you know, like the wax. I luckily had wax earplugs. Oh wow. Which, hey listen, if you’re having trouble sleeping, you got a partner that snores, you got people upstairs in your apartment building that make a lot of noise. You can do the- I don’t know what a wax- You can do the noise machine. I know what wax is. The foam, you know, the foam earplugs. But when you go to the foam earplugs section of your local pharmacy, there will also be these clear-ish wax earplugs. And there’ll be a pack of them because I mean, you probably shouldn’t use ’em more than once or I don’t know how often you should use ’em. But they’re like- You put ’em in hot water first or something? No, no, no. They’re soft wax. And you do the reach around, you pull on your ear, you take one of these suckers, well you roll it out and make it a little bit flat, and then you stick it, I mean long. It’s like putting a Tootsie roll in your ear. And then you press it down and it completely conforms to the exact shape of your ear canal. How do you get it out? Well, it does say, “Warning, if you push these too hard, “they may be difficult to get out.” But I’ve never had a problem with it. No, there’s still so much wax that it’s like sticking out. Bro, these things you can’t hear anything. Like, an ax murderer could have been just gnawing on the side of the van and I would’ve had no idea. Oh, that would be a meth addict. Yeah. So highly recommend these. I don’t know how many decibels, but it’s way more than the foam ones. Is it such that like you’re hearing like your internal processes? Like, that’s off-putting to me when I’m like- I don’t think so. I’m like hearing- Hear your heartbeat? Yeah, hearing your heartbeat. Swallow. Yeah, hearing like- Your eyes move. Yeah, your eyes move in the sockets. No, none of that. None of that happened. None of that happened. And I could also just like jump in a creek and not worry about getting worms in my ears. You gotta get these wax plugs. Okay, okay. All right, fine. I jotted down… One of the things was just preparing for the fact that Lincoln was leaving. So I do want to talk about that. 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First of all, it was still like during the pandemic and like there was, I didn’t realize that a typical taking your kid off to college, there’s like programmatic stuff that the university usually like invites you to. And like when you dropped off Locke, like you as a parent showed up for different things and like, right? We did a little bit of that. Well, there was a lot of that for Lincoln, and I wasn’t expecting it because there was none of that for Lily. And it was just, you know… The other thing was- It is somewhat school specific as well. Okay, yeah, that’s probably true. The other thing was, and, you know, I talk about it extensively at this table, was I was convinced, I was fully giving myself to processing emotionally Lily leaving. And like, so yeah, there was like that night of like a lot of crying alone and just thinking about like what a momentous occasion this was and everything that it meant and what it might mean for the future of our relationship and that type of stuff. It was rewarding. Honestly, I found myself thinking, I felt more prepared. I didn’t feel as emotionally volatile this time around. And then I started to feel bad about that, and I was like, “Man, is the middle child thing happening?” Where it’s like, “Okay, second one, yeah. “I’m not as worked up about this emotionally, “and then I’ve still got one at home, you know?” They don’t really represent as much as the first kid or the last kid leaving. Well, there is a lot to that middle kid thing, and, you know, he’s weathered all that like a champ. But then I started to realize that that wasn’t really the reason why I wasn’t as emotional. It was definitely a part of it. Like, everything wasn’t new. But the experience that I’ve had with Lily since moving her in has had a profound impact on how I approach this. I’ve seen Lily a lot. She’s been back quite a few times. She’s come back home a good amount. And I’ve gone to see her, we’ve gone to see her. It’s not like, I think I was afraid and thought that, you know, the nature of our relationship was gonna change when she moved out to the point where like our relationship would be so much less. But actually, even though there’s a lot more distance and there hasn’t been nearly as much quantity of time together, the quality of the time that we’ve had together I would say has increased and more than superseded like how we worked before, like how our relationship worked. So I actually experienced the fact that like we continue to grow, and we have a lot of valuable experiences together, and our relationship is still very vibrant, and she’s still a very connected part of our family. And I don’t think I expected that to happen. I was mourning the loss of something that I actually didn’t lose. And that totally informed and made me, once I realized that, I started to feel better to the point where I actually told Lincoln. I’m like, “You may have noticed that I haven’t been “as worked up as I was when Lily left. “And I want you to know that I’ve realized “that it doesn’t have as much to do “with you being the middle child, “or certainly that I love you less “or feel less connected to you than I did to Lily. “It has nothing to do with that. “It’s the experience of he-” And he said, “Dad, I haven’t noticed.” Right. Yeah, he wasn’t like- I’m an 18-year-old guy. Right. Yeah, that is kinda what his response was. He was like, “It’s cool, Dad. “I know that you care about me “and that you’re engaged in what’s happening “with me leaving.” But it really did alter the complexion of how I approached it. You know, I was able to be a lot happier, a lot more excited for Lincoln than I was for Lily, you know? ‘Cause I think I was a lot more sad for myself with the first one, you know? So we take Lincoln, we take him down there, and then we had packed up everything. But like the first day was like programmatic stuff. Like, all the freshmen and their parents like go in this place and like you hear from the president of the university, and then there’s like these information sessions, and then we split up, and the parents have like a mixer, and the students have their own separate thing. And it was like a lot. So much so that it was like the second day when we showed up that we actually moved him into his dorm room, met his roommates, and all of that stuff. So that first night before we moved him in, we were invited to a smaller gathering where we had the opportunity to meet the president of the university and some of the deans of the different colleges. And- This is when you embarrassed yourself? Yeah, it was like a mixer. Yeah. And you didn’t have to go to this. We were excited to go to it. And Lando was there, Christy was there, me and Lincoln were there. We were kind of like semi dressed up. You know, put your best foot forward. Okay, he’s already in though. He’s already in. Well, you know, you wanna make a good impression with the dean of his college and stuff like that. Steer steer respect the college dean. College dean. They had a bar, but, you know, I wasn’t like drinking. It’s not like I got shit-faced at I got a diet Coke. Okay. And then Lily and Christy were sitting down, and then one of the, like the head of, I don’t know what her title is, but she’s like the main person in charge of like the liaison between like incoming students, their parents, and like maintaining that connection. Like, she was introducing me to another dean, Lincoln and I to another dean, and two seniors who were like basically in a club that, you know, they talked up their college experience. And so you got to meet some seniors, you got to meet a dean, you got to meet this woman who’s like moving and shaking and bringing everybody into the university. And so we’re talking in a circle, and it was going great. And I, you know, I was like saying something, and I was really into it. Uh-oh. And so my left hand, Lincoln was to my left, and then the head of the thing that I don’t know her title, she was to his left. And I’m holding with my left hand my diet Coke, and I’m gesturing with my right hand. Yeah, had to figure it out for a second. And so here my right hand- Oh no. You clipped the cup. Is gesturing through my left hand. And it’s like they don’t communicate with the same brain or something. Yeah, yeah. There’s definitely a block in there. I think it’s biblical. Don’t let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. Yeah. Didn’t Paul say that? It’s about masturbation. No, it’s not. It’s about- I never told. It’s about giving money or something. I never told the other hand. That’s how God finds out. So none of ’em get jealous. God looks at the other hand. So my right hand didn’t know that left hand was holding a full glass of diet Coke and gestured in an upward sweeping motion, and- You were talking. All eyes on you. All eyes on me. And I’m like, badoof, and I just send this thing flying right at my son’s crotch. Oh, that’s better than the dean’s crotch. And then it splatters all off of his crotch onto a little bit of the dean. Oh, a little bit of the dean. Little bit of the dean. But it was diet Coke. It was diet Coke. It wasn’t regular Coke. We’d have a real problem. It wasn’t red wine. We’d have ants at that point. It wasn’t red wine. But he had on like, and then I’m like, oh, you know, and… How’d you recover? It’s a pretty embarrassing moment. Well, I was like- You ran out? I don’t know what I said, but I think it was something like, “Whoops.” And I was like- What did Lincoln do? Oh, okay. I know Lincoln. First of all, Lincoln’s too sweet to get upset in the moment about it or maybe to get upset at all about it. He probably was like, “Dang, Dad.” Yeah, that was pretty much it. He was like… Dad, Dad. And I’m like looking over, I’m like grabbing a stack full of napkins from the bar, and I’m like, dabbing my son’s crotch in front of the dean. Why don’t you hand him the napkins? I don’t know, man. ‘Cause I was like- Okay, this is where you really screwed up. And I was thinking, you know what, this is an opportunity for me to demonstrate- Could have given him the napkin. This is an opportunity for me to demonstrate how- Caring I am. Here, son. How to recover from an embarrassing moment. You gotta keep your cool, you gotta be a little self-deprecating. I’m like, “Well look, look at what I’ve done here.” And then the like the senior is like coming in and bringing in more napkins and mopping up stuff. Oh, he has like an assigned senior? Well, he was in the group. He was the guy talking to us. You should have given the senior the napkins. Yeah, and at that point I was like, “Well, I’m putting you to work.” That’s what I said. How much Coke was left? I’m putting you to work. How early in the drinking phase was it? It was very early in the drinking phase. It was a lot of Coke down there. Oh god. And I just really think it took the pressure off Lincoln to have to, you know- Yeah. You know, I was trying to make it… Yeah. Trying to make it easier on him. That’s what it was about. By taking the brunt of the embarrassment onto myself. The old gesture with one hand and hit something in another hand. I mean, that’s a special kind of thing to do. I was like- ‘Cause if you just watch somebody do that and you weren’t listening, it just looks like somebody goes… It’s like that had to be intentional, you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Let’s watch the replay on that one. Yeah. Apparently his left hand doesn’t know what his right hand’s doing. You know, I was already a little bit concerned about, you know, those environments, and I don’t want people to know me. I don’t wanna be the one who’s recognized and was like, this is about Lincoln and- Right, yeah, yeah. You don’t wanna do anything to draw any attention to yourself. Right. And so Lincoln was very gracious. He never let me have it. What about the dean? What did the dean say? You know, they were all gracious. Oh, really? And, you know, I kept my poise. I was just like, you know, it happens. Yeah, man. It happens. Sorry about that. Stick around me long enough, it’ll happen again. Yeah, I mean, at least it wasn’t, and so I was like, you know what? And then I continued the conversation. It opened the door. Well, I just moved on, and I was like, you know what? The best thing I can do is demonstrate to my son and anybody else who’s watching, which is everybody apparently, that you just gotta pick up the pieces or sop up the pieces and just move on. You know, you don’t get quiet. You try not to get red faced. You get louder. And you get louder. It’s like, well that, yeah, that happened, and it’s over. You know what, let’s just move on. But I didn’t say that. Next round’s on me. I just acted like that. Hold it tight, everybody. So I legitimately, that’s how I coped. I was like, I’m gonna demonstrate how you move on from an embarrassing moment. Well yeah, what’re you gonna do? Walk away? Right. Well, droop your head and just slink back a little bit was the instinct. It is fitting- Bury your face in a napkin perhaps. It’s fitting that you’re telling me this story- Run out. About an embarrassing social situation that we will now reference, you know, for years to come. Because one of the things that I, the show that I watched an entire season of… Well, let me, first of all, I wasn’t just sick. I had COVID. I haven’t said that. Can we say that? It’s just one of those things that for some reason nobody said that you had COVID. Well, I wanna talk about it because- So “Good Mythical Evening” when I knew you were sick, obviously you didn’t know you had it. I wanna be clear because we’re very responsible around here. So Jessie got cold symptoms. This is the second time this has happened, first of all. Jessie got cold symptoms on, like earlier in the week, like Sunday night, Monday. And this is also the same thing that happened last year. We made love. Okay, great. As we do often. And this, you know- Did it involve repeated coughing on one another? Are you into that? There was no lip- There was no lip to lip kissing for that reason, ’cause it was just like a little bit of a cold at the time, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You need not kiss. Right. And- It need not be a part of it. Well, it usually is, but when she’s like, “I’m coming ill, don’t kiss me. “I’m coming ill.” It may not. It may not. And then she goes on to basically have a very mild cold. She’s super religious about, not about that, but about testing for COVID. And so when she got sick, she tested twice. We’ve got tests at home just like we’ve got a bunch of tests here. Okay. Tested negative twice. So I was like, okay, it’s not COVID. So then on like Thursday, day of GMM, it was really like Wednesday night, like I’m starting to feel a little bit, oh damn it, I’m getting that cold that Jessie got. So I tested that morning, tested negative, and that’s when I like texted you and Brian and Stevie. And I was like, “Well, shit, I’ve got a cold. “Obviously we’re not gonna not, it’s not COVID. “I tested, I got it from Jessie. “She tested twice negative.” Right. And so we’re good to go. Now by Thursday night, I don’t know if it was obvious, I felt like horseshit all throughout “Good Mythical Evening.” It was not obvious. It was getting worse. But I was like, “I gotta pull through, man.” You sound worse now. You didn’t sound… ‘Cause it was that early stage. You did good, you did good. You were drunk. Yeah, that did help. Well, it helped in the moment to feel bad. Yeah, it probably made things- I think getting hammered right when COVID is actually setting in. I think I might have COVID, let’s get hammered! Probably not the best idea. So like Friday I got real bad. Friday night I had a fever. Saturday morning I wake up, and I test again. I’m like, “I gotta test again ’cause I got a fever now.” Positive. And not just positive, like it looked like somebody took a red sharpie and went across the, you know, sample part of the- Okay. The second line besides the control line on the test. And I was like, “Well, damn, it’s the same test.” To quote Usher, you got it bad. Yeah, and for some reason this didn’t show up. It’s that new strain going around whatever. And then it proceeded to make me pretty damn sick. Just like last time. Same pattern. Jessie gets a cold, we make love. She doesn’t get, of course last time she knew that she had COVID eventually, and it was a pretty bad cold. But for me it was worse. Like, multi-day fever, aches. I believe then I got it from you last time. No, I think you got it from somewhere else based on the timing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, it’s going around again. You know, we’re in the midst of like the surge or whatever. Yeah, and once you tested positive, that’s why I was like, man, I’m glad I didn’t kiss that sex doll after you. Well, I felt horrible for you. I felt horrible for, like, ’cause we’ve been really, you know, we’re very strict around here about if you got symptoms, you don’t come into work. Well, you put on a mask if you’re gonna be around. And so I just felt bad. I was like, man, I exposed a lot of people. So we had to do the thing where like we say, you know, there was an exposure. I think everybody knew it was me just because, I mean, everyone knew I was getting sick. But so far it seems like we got away with it. It was contained. Yeah. Yeah. So, but anyway, I had to basically hold myself up in Locke’s room. I mean, during the day I would go, ’cause, you know, Locke’s in college. He’s got a TV in there, and it’s just like, we had some friends staying with us. And so I was like, and then Shepherd hasn’t had it yet. So I was like, I’m gonna spend most of my time in here and I’ll just force myself to do what I hate to do, which is to relax and watch things. You know, it’s hard for me to just let go and do that. But I’m gonna tell you about some movies I watched, but I’m gonna tell you mostly about the fact that I watched all of season three of “Dave,” Lil Dicky’s show, which I know you’re also a fan of. I haven’t finished this season. I’m not gonna spoil anything. Well, I’m gonna tell you one incidental scene that has nothing to do with anything plot related that informs something from your past. Oh, really? And anyway, so, oh, by the way, just so we’re all clear, when we’re recording this, I’ve now tested negative three times, and so I’m no longer contagious. I’ve got like this residual like cough, and my voice is still kind of affected, but, you know, that’ll probably be happening for a few days. But… You know, I think that first of all, we’re both huge fans of the show “Dave.” We love the way that, just the sort of surreal comedy nature of it, right? And now you have your experience that you had with Dave Burd, Lil Dicky, in real life. Right. Where we were at a party. It was you and I and Stevie and- Yeah, I told the story on here, but to keep it short, yeah. I was like, “Are you Lil Dicky?” He said- Wait, so the way that it worked was, is that Link tends to just go up to people by himself. And I mean, and sometimes it’s part of a, sometimes it’s a strategic plan, but a lot of times it’s just like the three of us will be talking and then you’ll just kinda leave and go start talking to people, and me and Stevie would keep talking to each other. And I look up, and you’re talking to Lil Dave, and then we find out- Lil Dave. Lil Dicky. And the conversation was… Yeah, he said, “Hi, I’m Dave.” And I said, “Oh, I thought you were Lil Dicky.” And he was like, “I am, but that’s not my real name. “You know, Jay-Z’s real name is not Jay-Z.” And I was like, “Yeah, I just, I was just, “I was thinking when I got close to you, “you didn’t look like the Lil Dicky “that I thought from far away.” But I didn’t say that. And about that time is when Stevie and I walked up, and you were kind of explaining what had happened. And then Dave said to you, do you remember exactly what he said? He said- I remember the exact words because this is- You’re doing good. No, he said, “You’re doing great.” He said, “You’re doing great.” You’re doing great. Because, you know, I was kind of- Because you were explaining yourself. I was embarrassed. He said, “You’re doing great.” I wasn’t doing as great as I did when I spilled the stuff on Lincoln’s crotch. See, I’ve learned. I have more cool now than I did then. When we told that story- I was not doing great. When we told that story the first time. Yes. The show had not come out. The show had not come out and we told that story- Which is called “Dave.” I wanna say that I think we told that story, and it kind of made him seem like an asshole. Yes. Okay? I mean, at least very snarky. Like, you’re doing great, like mocking you. Yes. It was reassuring, but in a I thought a mocking kind of way. It wasn’t mocking. Oh yeah? It wasn’t mocking. I’ve watched enough of this show. Now I know that the show- Yeah. I know that the show is not exactly the guy, okay? But my theory- He says that line in the show? My theory is that he’s not an asshole. No, I don’t think he is, no. I think he’s a nice guy. I mean, I’ve watched the show now. I think he’s great. I think he’s a thoughtful guy. I think he also is an awkward guy. Yeah, I think we’re kindred spirits. I think he’s also an awkward guy because there’s literally… There’s literally at least one party scene in this season where he’s kind of demonstrating the fact that he doesn’t know how to navigate a party, okay? Now that’s an unrelated scene. I’m just thinking about that right now. Okay. But there is a scene in which a fan, an awkward fan, comes up to him and is kind of, you know, doing the thing that people do sometimes. They don’t know what to say and they start saying things. Yeah. And he says, “You’re doing great.” And he says it in a way that is actually like he’s, you know, it’s endearing. And I replayed the whole story through my mind again, and I think that he actually was just trying to tell you that like, “It’s fine, man. “It’s fine. “Like, the fact that you didn’t know, it’s funny. “We’re all good. “It’s fine. “You’re doing great.” I don’t think he was mocking you whatsoever. I think that he- I believe that. Was actually just trying to diffuse the situation. Yeah. And I think we both kind of misinterpreted it. But do you think I was doing great? You were doing great, man. No, I wasn’t. That was the disconnect. No, you weren’t doing great. But he was basically- Say, hey, you’re not doing great. His you’re doing great means it’s okay. But it’s okay. Doesn’t matter. It’s okay. It’s okay, man. Huh. I’m gonna feel weird when I watch that, even though you’ve told me about it. You spoiled that for me. But I’m still gonna feel weird when I watch it. Okay, you know, so- I don’t want to talk about it. You legitimately believe I spoiled something for you? A detail? Well, you spoiled that experience for me of like the blood leaving my body. You know what? When he says, “You’re doing great,” and be like, oh my god, he said that to me. Is this whole scene about me? You wouldn’t have remembered it. I bet. I bet my life. Oh, I would’ve remembered it. No, ’cause you didn’t even remember what he said. It would’ve gone. I think you’re doing, okay, whatever. You wouldn’t have remembered it, man. Okay. Now you’re gonna watch it with appreciation. By the way, season three great. All seasons great. I love that show. I love the way they do that. I love the choices they make. And the final episode, oh gosh. That’s what I’m hearing. I mean, it’s been built up now. Ben built it up for me. I’m building it up for you. So you’d probably be a little bit disappointed, which is worse than me spoiling one detail in one scene. Yeah. But yeah, man, it’s inspirational from a creative standpoint, you know? But I also did the thing where… What? Oh, nothing. You’re doing great. You know what? You’re doing great. I also did the thing. Yeah, whoever says “you’re doing great” first wins, you know, ’cause it’s like, I do understand how it seems like a power play. It does seem like a power play. But I don’t think that’s what he was doing. I did that thing where you- Yeah, I don’t think it- I’m gonna watch some movies, and I’m gonna watch some movies that I’ve- I’ve thought this a lot over the past four months. I’m gonna watch movies that I feel like as a person in professional entertainment, I should have watched. Yeah, you got time on your hands. And I know what you’re about to say. And I’m gonna watch movies that people are like, “You gotta watch this movie for the,” it’s like, for the sake of the history of cinema, you need to watch this movie. Like, what? Like “Being There”? No, no. Keep going in reverse, brother. All right. Happy Madison? I’m older. Oh, oh, going in reverse. I thought what you were gonna say was you didn’t end up watching any movies because you realize you don’t like watching movies. Happy Madison is not a movie. Yeah, it is. “Billy Madison” and “Happy Gilmore.” Happy Madison is the name of his production company. Okay, whatever. I’m doing great. Did you actually watch a movie? ‘Cause that’s what I was calling you on, that you actually realized you didn’t wanna watch a movie. I watched at least five. Oh gosh, that’s so hard now. I was sick for a while. It’s hard to watch movies is all I’m saying, ’cause now we have all these other things that you can watch that take less time and it’s a perceived smaller commitment. To sit down and watch a movie, you know what? I don’t do it anymore. It’s just too much to handle. Movies are a thing of the past. Well, I think maybe you haven’t opened yourself up to the way that you can get through a movie in 2023 with a phone in hand. Oh. And the phone in hand- I feel too guilty to the movie. No. My phoning during the movie was all related to the movie. Okay. It was like x-ray. It was like Amazon x-ray, but it was in my hand. I had a diet Coke in one hand and my phone in the other hand. They never touched. I did great. What did you watch? “Citizen Kane.” No, you didn’t. Why? That’s so dumb. It’s not dumb. It’s not, when you look. I’ve seen it. I saw it in Intro to Film class. Okay, okay. Well, hold on. I mean, the editing was inventive, but now it’s just like, oh, it was editing. You know, it’s like you have to understand what didn’t exist before it to appreciate it and who cares? But when you read about it first- Yeah, you have to read about it. But so that was the exercise. The exercise wasn’t like, I just want to be entertained. The process was I’m sick. I’ve just watched- That sounded nothing like me. I’ve just watched a whole season of a television show. This was a different day. I’m gonna watch stuff that feels like, I’m like, you know, I wanna learn some stuff. You wanna achieve something. So why do people care about this movie? Why was this considered the, why is this on every list of the best movies of all time? Why was it considered the best movie of all time for decades? And then I’m like, oh, 1941, Orson Wells. He wrote it. He directed it. He starred in it. He produced it. It’s kind of crazy. Okay. And then as I watched it, I like would Google things about the different people or whatever, you know? Yeah, ’cause it’s so freaking boring. I mean, it’s definitely, you can’t recommend it in the way that you would recommend like a movie that you want people to watch. Like, man, this movie’s gonna blow you away. Of course it’s not gonna blow you away. It’s from 1941. But like in context with a phone. You have to have a phone and a diet Coke. I was glad that I did it. But then I didn’t turn around and then be like, now I’m gonna go watch, like, I didn’t watch Charlie Chaplin “City Lights,” man. I didn’t go silent film. I almost did. But after doing “Citizen Kane,” I was like, okay, I don’t know if I could take Charlie Chaplin. I’ll save that for the next time I get COVID. I’ll save that for next year. But then I stayed on that list of like influential, I don’t know, I looked at a couple of different lists. Then I went to “Mulholland Drive,” which I had seen before. Nick Nolte? No, no, no. David Lynch. A David Lynch movie. That’s actually got the dude from the HBO show, “The Leftovers.” That guy. Justin Thoreau. Okay. Well first of all, David Lynch, man. Like, David Lynch makes like weird movies. It’s got what’s her name? Naomi Watts in it too and then some other woman. Okay, this isn’t that old. No, it’s like 20, 23 years old. And there’s a lesbian sex scene in it, if that interests you. I would say yes, it does. And anyway, that one was weird, and I was just kinda like, I get it. It’s okay. But like, there’s just no heart in it, so I just was like, I don’t think I would, this is not like in my top favorite movies just because I’m not laughing at anything on purpose, and there’s no heart in it. It’s just weird. Okay. You know what I’m saying? So then I was like, okay, what next? Let’s get a little bit more modern. I’m gonna watch that Nick Cage vampire movie. Oh yeah. “Renfield.” There you go. Can you recommend it? Rosebud. I think maybe I was movied out by this time. It’s hard to watch a movie. Can I say? I was just kinda like, I was hoping for more. It definitely wasn’t as good as that Nick Cage, Pedro Pascal movie. That movie was perfect. That was great. Can I just say one more time? Movies are dying. They’re too long. They’re too long. You need to break ’em up into episodes or reduce them to like 15 second pithy clips that can be scrolled vertically. But as it stands, they’re dying. They’re gone. You know, you can watch it as a gimmick, but- Hold on. You’re not gonna enjoy it. This doesn’t happen in the theater though. We don’t have capacity for it anymore. Okay, first of all, I think that you should resist this. It’s over. Secondly- Movies are over. This doesn’t happen in the theaters. And I won’t let my creative business partner who co-owns my entertainment company with me say that movies are over. But I’m just, you know what? Are you saying that as half of Rhett and Link or are you saying that as only Link? I’m saying that as somebody who’s just trying to get a little clip on TikTok. Oh, okay. Let me know in the comments if you agree with me. Well- Movies are done. I disagree with you, and here’s the thing. You know what? I also disagree. Here’s the thing. You watch it with a phone if you’re watching it at home, which the thing that, and I don’t mean this for every movie. There’s lots of movies that I don’t need a phone for. I mean, “Citizen Kane,” I mean anything before 1950, you gotta give me a phone. I gotta have a connection to the modern world to get through. Yeah, tell me why this should be good. But the other piece of it is, I think that if you’re like a Gen Z person, this is how you watch things already. And you know how like sometimes you like make a video or we make something and you want to like show it to somebody like, oh, it’s a new video that we’ve been working on. And you wanna show it to your wife or your kids or whatever. Okay, yeah. And if they’re on their phone, it’s like, “Get off your phone.” Oh gosh. Look at this masterpiece I’ve made. Every detail was intentional. I just thought about how filmmakers, the idea of somebody being on their phone while something important is being said in the show- I know, that’s I can’t do it. But this doesn’t happen in the theater, man. Theaters, you’re comfortable, you’re laid back. You can’t be on your phone in the theater anyway. Yeah. Movies at home are dying. I’d like to make an amendment. Movies at home are dying. In a theater, they’ll go on a few more years. Few more years. And I’m here for it. Okay, so anyway- What’s your rec? “Citizen Kane”? No. We probably recommended “Dave” as a show before already. Well, do it again. But I’ll recommend season three. Okay. And you do need to start with season one and two. All right. But yeah, I just, you know, you gotta watch it. If you like, I mean, we’re not doing anything like it on the Rhett and Link channel in a sense. But I feel like the same place that they’re coming from creatively, I like to think that they’re accessing a similar inspirational space. Well, there’s creative juice. That’s a narrative thing. It’s got creative juice. That’s a narrative thing. But like they’re making choices because they like the choices that they’re being made and they’re trying to say something that’s another layer deeper than just the thing that they’re showing you. I thought season three was a little slow, but I’m hanging on for the part that was inspired by me. Okay, yeah, I don’t believe it was. I just believe we’ve now learned this is something that Dave Burd says when in situations where he feels like somebody might be embarrassed about what they’re saying or doing. He likes to say, “You’re doing great.” You’re doing great. Yeah. No, I was saying to you, you’re doing great. You’re doing great. And you know what? You’ve done great. ‘Cause you’ve made it to the end of this “Ear Biscuit.” Let us know what you think by interacting with us using #EarBiscuits or leaving us a voicemail. I love it when you leave us a voicemail. 1-888-EARPOD1. Hey, Rhett and Link. My name’s Abby. I just have to say my Google Maps glitched out as I was listening to your 1984 episode of the pod. And I got to listen to you two berate us millennials for not knowing how to use paper maps while I took several wrong turns with my glitched out Google Maps. Fine, you’re right. We rely on technology. Rub it in why don’t ya? Thanks for everything you do. Love the pod. Bye. 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