EB 416: Our Dog Bite Stories

Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting. I don’t wanna say- Say it. You’re gonna learn something, ’cause I don’t want you to think this is gonna be educational. But I- Link, you’re not. There are people, in fact, I would say most people, who do wanna learn things. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m just over it. Yeah. Well, I’ve noticed. I know that I said that I was over, like, this spiritual stuff. I mean, maybe it’s just ’cause I’m over everything. Like learning. I think most people like to- I’m a curious guy. I mean, maybe not go back to school, but- I learned some stuff, because I kind of went down this rabbit hole of curiosity called a Reddit thread. Okay. And it was common misconceptions debunked by people who are in the know, and severely irritated by the fact that the misconceptions are perpetuated. Okay. So, I’m gonna take you through the highlights that I found from this common misconception Reddit thread, just to see if I can blow your mind or change your ways or learn you a little bit. You think I suffer from falling for most misconceptions? Common misconception? No, no, I think you know it all. Okay. Well, we’ll put that to the test. So, it can be putting that to the test too. First I got a couple of things that, if you’ll bear with me, I do wanna bring to the table that I think will improve people’s lives in their body. Well, I’m excited for that. Not just their brain. Because I will say I just got back from a very long meeting. And it’s the same meeting that you’re gonna have to have, probably next week. Yeah. You’re talking. Because we have- A financial planning meeting. The same people who do things for us. But this was like me and Jesse meeting with them. And you and Chrissy, you’re gonna have to meet with them. I mean, it was as wonderful as a financial planning meeting can be. You look like a shell of a man. Meaning that I’m really hoping that you’ve got some stuff to perk me up. Now, I did put some diet Dr. Pepper. This is my third caffeinated drink of the day, which is- Oh, shit. I was having two, and then I downgraded to one. And now, I’ve gone from one to three. That was like your actual New Year’s Resolution that you didn’t tell anybody about. But I started to notice you’d be like, declining coffee. I was like, “What’s happening here?” Well, what was happening was I was waking up at four o’clock in the morning, and I kept going through things, trying to figure out what it was. The funny thing is, eliminating my second caffeinated drink, I don’t know how much it impacted it, but what I’ve noticed is that if I just eat more sugar, I stay asleep, which is a real bad thing to realize. More sugar makes you sleepy? Like this weekend, three nights in a row, I made the mistake. I have a little thing, I got some candy in my house, right? And I’m usually really good at not eating the candy. But Friday night, Saturday night and yesterday, I got into the candy, and I hated myself while I was doing it. My wife, she’s like, “You have such an unhealthy relationship with food, because every time you do something, you keep calling yourself a bad boy.” I’m like, “The bad boy’s going into the cabinet now.” She’s like, “You gotta have more mercy on yourself.” Or at least just don’t say it out loud. It doesn’t have to be a running commentary. Yeah, maybe I should just think it. “Bad boy thinks he’s going into the cabinet right now.” I mean you could say it like Bad Boy Records- No, it’s different. Diddy is- Not anything to be proud of. But- It made you sleep better? I didn’t wake up at all. And it’s just like- Can’t be good. No, ’cause I feel like shit today. Like I was sitting in that meeting, and I was like, “Man, don’t ever eat that sugar again.” Because the thing is, I can wake up at four o’clock, maybe it’s just ’cause I just don’t need to sleep that much. Well, no, it’s not. Are you sure that what was happening wasn’t that you needed sugar in the meeting? Why not just eat more sugar in the meeting? No. Sugar’s not good for you, man. It’s poison. No, you’re confusing it with alcohol. And alcohol. I had that too this weekend. You had a big weekend. I had three- You were a bad boy. The bad boy had three hard kombuchas on an afternoon, which is highly unusual for me. Highly unusual. Like, three alcoholic beverages? What is the bad boy doing? Because a kombucha is good for the gut. Yeah. Probably not, though. Probably not these kombuchas. Anyway. Bad boy hurt- I don’t know. I’m still experimenting with myself. And I’ll get back to you on how I’m gonna sleep through the night without just eating candy, ’cause I’m sure Huberman wouldn’t want me to do that. Don’t mention his name here. In the future, I’m gonna go on Huberman, and you’re gonna be a podcast- You can’t even talk- Podcast clip. Get this man some sugar. Me saying, “Well, you know, the thing that’s really helped me, Andrew, is just eating a lot more candy.” That’s what I found. Right? Everybody’s always saying some bullshit that’s different than the next person says. And my thing is candy. I got gummy candy. I got licorice. I took black licorice and dipped it in peanut butter. I mean, that’s as bad as a boy can be. You know what I’m saying? That’s as bad as a boy can be. Definitely. But y’all should try that. If you like those things. But the sugar sleep discovery sounds like the type of thing that, you know, people would be buzzing about that. Really? Yeah. You should publish the study. The problem is I feel like crap during the day, so I’m not gonna do that, because I didn’t feel bad when I was waking up at four o’clock. I just wasn’t sleeping as much as my ring told me I needed to. Okay. But now you’re sleeping a lot and you’re feeling bad. I wonder if I could get the feedback from my Aura Ring to say whether or not I was a good boy or a bad boy last night. I bet you I could get ChatGPT- Gives you a score. I bet you if I knew how to do things on the computer, and do apps and stuff- You could alter your sleep score- I don’t wanna be like- Good boy, bad boy. Yeah. Yeah. It’d be like, “Did you get a good boy score or a bad boy score?” I think Jesse’s right. It’s shame framing. Oh yeah. She is all over me every time. You don’t need to be shame frame. But I’m so well motivated by shame. Like, it has propelled me through my entire life. And I’ve gotten places. I had a financial planning meeting today. Yeah, yeah, you did. Look at you now. You’re back here with me. I discovered over the weekend, and I wanna share this story, because I think now it’s gonna change how I behave, specifically around dogs, because of what happened to a friend of ours, and you probably haven’t heard this yet, but our friend Ward got bit by a dog over the weekend, and it was not minor. It was not pretty. So he had been bitten when you saw him on Saturday night? Yeah. He’s like, limping in. Oh, it’s a limp bite? So here’s what happened. So this is at least an 80 pounder. We checked on him this morning. He’s okay. He’s recovering. He’s not like, gonna lose the leg or anything. So there’s a- Okay, well, I hope not. Well, I just wanted to go ahead and tell you. He is okay, so now I’m gonna tell the story. If there was a chance he might lose his leg, I doubt he would’ve showed up to your DJ practice session on Saturday night, that’s all I’m saying. Well, I don’t agree with that. Okay. It was important to him to be there. So what happened? Did he give you permission to tell the story? Just spinning some vinyl, having a great time. No, he did not give me permission, but- It was implied. I don’t think he would care. It was implied. Permission implied. There’s not a lot of details, except that like, he was driving- Is there gonna be a court case? No, he was driving through a neighborhood. I’m telling this story wrong, but all the details that matter, I’m gonna tell correctly. Good. He sees a friend that he hasn’t seen in a while. So like, he walks up to the friend at the front door and he is like, “Oh my God, I’m so happy to see you.” And he like gives her a hug and her dog’s there. And when he gives her a hug, the dog just like, latches onto his upper thigh. Upper thigh. Upper thigh. Did it jump to make contact with it, or is this how big the dog is? He said that the dog was like this big. So it’s like a lab sized dog is what I took him to mean. And I was like, “Did you curse this dog? Like, what came outta your mouth?” And he is like, “You know, when you’re blindsided by a dog bite, when you’re in an embrace,” he’s just like, “Ow.” You know, that was his response, because it was his- You don’t wanna start hitting the person’s dog right in front of him. Right, and you’re like, “Oh, your dog is doing something to me. Wow, he’s hurting bad.” You know, kind of a thing. Did this friend notice that it was happening? Yeah. Yeah. And what did she do? I’m sure she was embarrassed. Well, no, but what did she do? Did she start hitting her own dog? I didn’t ask. Well, how long was it latched? I didn’t ask. I asked, “Are you okay?” And I asked like, “What pants you were wearing?” He was like, “These pants.” I was like, “Well, it can’t be that bad, ’cause you’re still wearing the pants, and there’s no holes in them.” He was like, “There’s an entire,” Christie was like, “How bad is it?” She wants to see it. I don’t wanna see it. And then- Hold on. Christie was at the DJ session? Yeah, because Andy ended up coming. Oh, okay. This is more than I thought it was gonna be. Well, it turned into that. Yeah. But it was mainly, we hear the dog story. I’m doing the practicing. I told you you’d be invited eventually, that I was easing into things. Okay. Okay. Apparently it’s like, you know, a big chomp down. You could tell that it’s a dog that is chomped down on the leg. What do you mean? You saw it? I didn’t see it. That’s what he described. Because he would have to take his pants off to show you. Yeah, and that wasn’t that type of party. Okay. You weren’t playing the right music. I’m totally the type of person that would walk up to a friend whose dog was beside them, and give them a hug if I hadn’t seen them in a while. I wouldn’t think about the fact that like, “Well, you never know exactly what a dog will do.” Now I do know you don’t pet somebody’s dog without asking permission first. I’ve learned that. Thank goodness, not the hard way. But this kind of shook me up a little bit because, you know- I would say it’s still unlikely. I don’t wanna get bit by a dog. And you know, Ben who works here, he was like being friendly with a friend’s dog, and the dog bit him in the face, you know? Yeah. And the owners don’t seem to expect it to happen either. I mean, these aren’t wild animals, but like- Not far from it. Apparently not as far from it. I have a renewed sense that I want to pass along to you, dear Biscuiteers, to like, be wary around a dog you don’t know. Don’t hug people in front of a dog? Is that what you’re saying? Yeah. Yeah. Don’t hug people in front of a dog you don’t know. I don’t know about that. An owner. I’m not ready to support that. I mean, Jade, if I’m sitting on the couch in there, in the office, and somebody comes up to me to like, shake my hand or something, she’s growled in the past. Even if she knew him. She’s growled at you. Yeah, but she’s different. And she would nip. She’s like when Sean bites you- She’ll act like she bites. And this has happened multiple times. This has happened multiple times at my house with Sean. If people make a sudden move towards one of us, and they’re like somebody that he doesn’t know. Actually, what I noticed last night, had one of our old friends over. He’s only seen Sean like, twice, maybe. Yeah. And there was a couple of times where we got kind of animated or excited, and my friend would be like, coming from the kitchen, and like, Barbara starts barking because she gets excited, and then Sean’s just like, “I gotta bite the closest person.” You know, like, just assuming, “I need to bite someone.” But he was the only person besides my immediate family who was in the house. He didn’t bite. He didn’t bite. He didn’t bite him, but it was like he was starting to, and then he would, “Oh, I know you,” you know? He’s not real smart. Well, you know he bit me. I know you remember that. Yeah, he did. And we’re working on that. And he’s getting better. But you know, chihuahuas have the least bite strength of all the breeds. So it’s like you’ve been to the doctor and you know, you got a little shot. That’s the kind of wound you get. Leave it to the owner to minimize it. I’m speaking on behalf of like, approaching somebody else’s dog. Like, ’cause now I assume all dogs- Go to heaven? Are good-hearted. Even if they’re barking. It’s just because I haven’t put my hand down there yet to let you sniff it. I’m not doing that. I’m not making judgment- I’m afraid of dogs. Dog’s heart. I’m afraid of dogs. When you just said the dog wasn’t good-hearted, the dog biting Ward was out of the goodness of its heart. Because it thought that its owner was being threatened. Yeah. It’s still a good-hearted dog. Just, it’s kind of a bad boy. I can relate. You know? Jenna, you got bit by a dog? I’ve been bit by a dog recently. Was it a good-hearted dog? What happened? It was during the lockdowns, and we just started being able to walk outside. I was like, “Yeah, I’m gonna walk outside.” And my friend and I were on a walk together, my roommate, and there was this older woman with a German Shepherd just like, on a grassy area, right next to the sidewalk where I’m walking. And she like, had the leash, but it was one of those retractable ones. And I didn’t approach, nothing. I did like, a little hello to her and was just continuing on my way, like a hello nod. Like, “Oh wow, I can see a person.” And then the dog just lunged at me, and she didn’t have hold of the leash properly. And the German Shepherd did rip my pants, yeah. Whoa. She ripped my pants. Are we talking above the knee? Below the knee? Yeah, yeah. It was my good thigh. He got a good chunk. Got my thigh meat in there. Did it latch on? You have to go to the doctor? I didn’t, no. It didn’t break skin. But it was really bruised, and you could tell it was like, a bite mark. And what did this woman do when her dog bit you? Nothing. Nothing? Yeah. Yeah. She was just like, “Oops.” And I was like, “Okay.” Oops? Oops? Oh, come on. And was just like, to the dog, like, “Don’t do that.” And it’s just like, “Well, you know, you could just have the leash better.” I wasn’t blaming the dog for it. Yeah, but you gotta be apologetic. And you probably need to give. I mean, what’s the right thing to- She did not apologize to me. She did not apologize. I think you exchange insurance information, like somebody’s car- I think as a dog owner, you’re immediately afraid that like, “Okay.” Lawsuit. “This person’s gonna make me put my dog down.” Right. That’s the thing. You are scared. I would never. Oh my goodness. I would never. But some somebody. I was annoyed that she didn’t apologize. That’s a big dog too. Yeah, it was a German Shepherd. An attack dog. So I think this is the application. Don’t exchange information with people if your dog bites somebody. No, be careful. Like, keep your distance around dogs- I think you have to be a repeat offender. I’m not trying to blame you, Jenna. I had distance. No, it was her fault. But it was Jenna’s. It was Jenna’s fault. She should’ve stayed inside. Should have stayed inside. Shouldn’t have chanced going on a walk. Hey, listen, I can tell you, I don’t know if I’ve ever told this story, but I think Jessie, my wife, has the best dog biting story. I wasn’t present for it, but I’ll tell you as best as I can remember her telling me. Back in North Carolina, several years before we moved out here, she was having something made or fixed or something, right? By like, a dude who does something at his house. Like, “I’ll fix your chair,” or something like that, right? Yeah. And it’s one of those houses out in North Carolina where somebody lives on some land and you have to like, drive through two fields to get to their house. You know, somebody off of the road quite a bit. Country house. And she drives up and there’s like, what is it? Dalmatian. A Dalmatian, which is a big dog. Dalmatian is a big dog. You’re talking about the ones that come in like sets of 101? Yeah. And they’re on fire trucks. Yeah. I mean, their image has really been cleaned up by that movie. But I’ve known quite a few bad boy Dalmatians in my day. I’ve heard they’re stupid. They’re big. And the consequences of their actions are more significant than, say, Sean, right? So this dog, if I think I remember the dog was barking, and she was hesitant to even get out of the car. And then like, the guy was just like, waving her in, like, “Everything’s cool,” or whatever. And she gets outta the car and the dog comes up and bites her on the ass. I’m sorry I’m laughing. He bit her right on the ass. And she got into her car and drove away. And then she came home and she told me, and I called the guy, and it was- You know, I could barely understand a word that he was saying, but he basically was not taking responsibility for the dog. And I don’t know if we ever got the thing from him that we even needed. We never like moved forward with any motion. But she got bit on the ass by a Dalmatian. And then she had to get a shot? A preventative. Yeah, ’cause the teeth went in the ass. It did break the skin. Sorry, baby. Be careful around the dogs. Keep your ass away. Keep your thighs away. If I had have been there, I would’ve stepped in. I would’ve put myself between you and that dog. Oh. Mhmm. You would’ve done that? I would’ve dove. One more thing that I wanna do to make your life safer. I wanna close the loop on this Uber driver conversation that we had many weeks ago by playing this one voicemail. Hi, this is Dante from Cincinnati. I am a part-time Uber driver. When we get a rider, we have to immediately rate the rider after we drop you off. You guys who ride for Uber can rate well after, as well as tip well after. So as a driver, I may get a tip three or four days later, like Link was talking about. But I may have rated that person low, because they didn’t gimme an immediate tip. Oh, shit. That’s it. That explains my rating, because I always tip and I tip aggressively. You can tip before the ride is over, I’m pretty sure. But like, as the ride is ending, you need to have a habit of tipping. I’m always like, “Thanks, man.” And then I just do it when it reminds me. I had no clue about this. Yeah, you got to do that. I think I’m gonna start saying, “Hey man, thanks. I’m tipping you right now.” Oh yeah. In order to get the credit for the tip, you gotta do the tip immediately. I feel like- While you’re still at the table, so to speak. If any of the Uber development people are listening, might I just suggest a slight alteration to your system? No, they’re not listening to you. If the tip comes in, then you should be able to be like, “Shall I reevaluate? Would you like to reevaluate your rating? You rated this person. Here’s his picture. Here’s his tip.” “I remember that guy, he was quiet. I thought he didn’t like me, but he just tipped me.” “I like him now.” “I’m gonna give him five stars.” Yeah, it’s a cooling off period before you rate. I think that on the pro side, it’s kind of like a movie. You know a movie’s a really good movie when you get out of the movie theater and you don’t know what your opinion is. You might not even like it, but then you sleep on it. The next morning, you’re thinking about the movie and you realize, “That’s a good movie, because I’m sitting here thinking about things that the movie made me think about.” That’s a good test of a good movie. You have a cooling off period to reflect on it. Of course, when it comes to Uber riders, it might start to put more pressure to be memorable. But the tip, I guess, can cover that. I have another idea for the Uber development people. I think there should be a little thing that’s coming up. And when the guy does something good, you hit a little thing and it makes a little, “Ching,” it makes a little noise on your phone- In real time. In real time. And it’s just like, you give them coins. Pavlovian. Like, that dude just did a really awesome turn. That was a super smooth stop. “Ding ding.” And then he hears you. He’s in the back. You’re not talking, ’cause I don’t wanna talk. I’m in the back seat and it’s just like, “Ding, ding, ding.” My phone is just dinging like crazy, and he knows he’s killing it, and it almost becomes like a video game for him. An audio video game. Ding, ding, ding. Audio feedback. And then he’s like. Think about it, ’cause we always talk about how both of us, maybe more than any other people that I’ve ever met, think about the smoothness of the stopping and the taking off. Yeah, I think that- You know, I told Locke as I was teaching him to drive, I was like, “You should be able to put a glass of wine on the dash.” First of all, don’t put a glass of wine on your dash ever. That’s a horrible idea. But theoretically, you should be able to put a stemmed glass of wine on your dash and come to a stop and take off. That’s how smooth you should be, especially when other people are in the car. Why don’t you just start doing this verbally? “Ooh, I like that turn. That was a good acceleration, sir.” Yeah. You could even add the, “Ding, ding, ding.” I’ll just make the noises until Uber updates. Right. Just see. What’s wrong with you? “I am giving you,”- Every time you do something. “Feedback on how awesome you are, in a granular way.” Yeah, yeah, yeah. 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And I also usually don’t hug people unless they make the first move, typically. Okay. I’m a little bit scary. Have you seen me? I know this is audio only, but you can see me right? There is a video version. Oh yeah, that’s right. I’m kind of scary. But yes, I do see you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, everything that I’m gonna share with you- And I don’t hug dogs, I don’t hug dogs, unless they hug me first. Everything that I’m gonna share with you is something that I have had a misconception about, and I feel okay about it, because the prompt was, “What’s a common misconception about a topic you’re knowledgeable about that you’d like to debunk?” So I didn’t feel bad when I was schooled, so now I’m gonna try to school you. And if you just keep saying, “Well, I already knew that.” Well, I could lie to you and tell you I already knew it, ’cause now I know they’re misconceptions. The way you do this is to just tell me, “Is it true or false?” Now I know they’re all false. Okay, well, yeah, that’s what I’m gonna do, and I’m gonna see if I can fool you. True or false: bats- Sleep upside- Are not blind. Bats are definitely not blind. They just also use echolocation, but they have eyes. Have you seen one? Yeah, I have, but I didn’t think about it. I mean, blind people have eyes too, Rhett. Yeah, but that’s a subset of people, who also have eyes- Alligators have eyes too. And then they have eyelids that cover them, and then they have another eyelid that covers them. That feels like a different thing. But I wouldn’t have told you. I don’t know how well bats can see, because if they could see really awesome in the night, then why would they need echolocation? Exactly. Bats are blind. Got you with the first one. Hold on, you’re lying. Yeah, I am. Their eyesight is just fine. But since they’re primarily nocturnal, they may rely more on other senses. They got like, echolocation for getting around. I saw a TikTok of a bat trying to get into this woman’s house. You’re afraid of bats. Well, I’m afraid of that bat. No, you’re afraid of bats. Yeah. I don’t- Say it. Well, I’ve made it very clear. when I went to Mexico and I swam in the cenotes, and there were a bunch of bats above me. Nothing, no fear, nothing. It’s when I’m outside and there’s a bat flying around and it’s swooping. Swooping in and swooping out, you know I’m gonna be the first one it gets, ’cause again, I’m the tallest one. It can see you. And if Heather Dinklage had not gotten necked by a bat back in the ’80s, I wouldn’t have this fear. Your neighbor’s older sister. But you know how the bats swoop and swarm in North Carolina at night, as dusk is approaching. Mhmm. Got all up in her hair, got all caught up in her hair. I bet that was scary for you. And especially since I’ve grown my hair out and it’s kind of like a bat net at this point. I think about it. Is that why you’ve done it? Yeah, but this bat was giant. And you know how their arms are wings? You know, like wings are arms, right? Evolutionarily speaking. A wing is a modified arm. It’s not like you grow wings on your back and you’ve still got arms. I would actually say- Unless you’re a dragon. The wings are more almost hands. Like, the fingers are- Are the individual spines. Yeah. That’s crazy. This thing was like. I mean, you gotta look at this video. It’s like this big, it’s like a fruit bat. With Heather, there’s a video? No, no. I’m talking about TikTok. In the house. Trying to get in. Something’s wrong with this bat, ’cause it really wanted in. See, the way you feel about that bat is the way that I wanna feel about strange dogs. And I have to make that adjustment. I’m not gonna talk about animals a lot, but I am gonna talk about them a few more times. Did you think that a bat was blind? I just didn’t think about it. Okay, well then you didn’t- I mean, there’s a phrase. Blind as a bat. Blind as a bat. Yeah. So, that always meant the opposite. See? My mind is blown. Every time someone says, “I’m blind as a bat,” it meant that they could see. They were telling me they could see. Well, no, no, no. That’s not true. Are all toads frogs or are all frogs toads? Okay, I’m just gonna go with what I would’ve told you coming into this. And keep in mind, I should have given a disclaimer at the top of this. This is just people on Reddit. Right, but there’s somebody who comes in and says, “I know this,” and they give you a reason. And there’s always somebody else who would say, “Well, you’re stupid and you’re wrong.” And it wouldn’t get to the top. So, this is the gold standard in knowledge. Okay. I would’ve said that toads and frogs are two distinctly different things. I didn’t know that one was a sub of the other. So, whatever that misconception is. I thought toads weren’t technically amphibians, and frogs were, or frogs did most of their time in the water or something. What is it? It’s just people saying snarky shit underneath. Oh, so we don’t have a definitive answer? No. They say all toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads. So toads are a subset of frogs. And what is it? What makes them that? They’re not in the water? Well now I’m gonna have to Google, ’cause nobody went in and said that. Because whenever I pick up a frog, which is not common, not all the time anymore. It’s wet and slimy. When you pick up a toad, it’s like, warty dry. Dry toads are warty looking, covered in little lumps and bumps, while frogs are sleek and smooth. That’s how you tell the difference. Toads virtually always have dry skin, whereas frogs look wet even when they’re out of water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s just the difference. I don’t think that’s the- We had so many. But hold on. We were just talking about how they were totally different things. But like- All frogs are toads? All toads are frogs. So, some frogs smooth. This isn’t even- I feel like you gotta get- Did we just expose it? I feel like you gotta get a second source on this. Are frogs toads? Psu.edu, it says all toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads. But then why is there so many infographics about being able to tell the difference? I think it’s like, “Are you a special type of frog that’s a toad or are you not?” Yeah, I’ll buy that. What do you like more? I don’t like either one of them. But if I had to choose, I think I would choose a non-toad frog. You can’t just say frog. But for what? For a friend, or for a pet? ‘Cause the sliminess freaks me out. If I had to hold one or the other. But you just said you’d rather have a frog. Do you want a slimy one- To be afraid of. No, to be- I didn’t understand the question. Which do you prefer? When somebody says, “Which one do you like more, which one do you prefer?” It’s not, “Which one do you prefer to be afraid of?” I know. I just said it backwards. I was trying to cover for myself. You prefer a toad as a friend? I think I would. No. Yes. Yeah. I think so as well. Well, I don’t know. Here’s exactly what happened in my brain. I didn’t like toads, because I didn’t like wartiness. And then I realized I didn’t like sliminess. So I changed my answer in the middle of it, and I seemed like I didn’t know what I was talking about, ’cause I didn’t. If I had a toad- I don’t like either one. If I had a toad that was a friend and I had him on a little leash, I feel like he could go everywhere that I go. You know what I’m saying? Because if I was a frog, if I had a frog friend, I feel like- You mean a non-toad frog? Like a frog frog. Well, a toad is a frog. I feel like I would have to get him water a lot. And that would get annoying. High maintenance. It’s like a friend who you have to constantly put lip balm on him. Yeah. Yeah. You’re the frog in this relationship. But I don’t make you put it on me. I’m the guy, warts and all just out in the desert. Like, you can put me through anything and then I just like hop right up to you. Oh God. You leave this guy outside for seven minutes and he’s hard as a rock and the sun’s completely dehydrated. Come on, man. I take care of my needs. I have my bag. Yeah. With my balm. I don’t inconvenience you at all with it. If you’ve got a fanny pack, you’re the frog in the relationship. There’s nothing wrong with it. I’m just pointing it out. Well, a toad is a frog too. I hate to tell you. People talk about how we’re frog and toad. I’m toad. That’s what I’m saying. You got on a green one- And I’m non-toad. It’s a military mechanic outfit. You’re ready for action. You’re ready to fix a Jeep. All right, since we’re having so much fun with animals, I’ll give you one more. This person said, “I want to flip a table every time I hear orcas are actually dolphins, not,” what? Whales. Are orcas dolphins? Are orcas dolphins? He doesn’t want to be wrong. No, no, no, no. They’re called killer whales. But I was told at some point in the past that an orca and a dolphin, they’re like on the same family tree or whatever. So you’re saying orcas are dolphins. They’re a type of dolphin. That’s what I would’ve told you. I could be wrong. And are dolphins whales? I don’t know. I don’t think so. I mean, maybe whale is a big category. That’s all, you know, mammals that swim. But if it is, that’s news to you? I know that whales and dolphins are very closely related. Can’t say yes. No, no, no. Like, hold on. Is it news to you? If a dolphin were a whale, would that be news to you? It would be like, all right. I would be like, “You’re saying that whale is like frog?” Yes. That would be news to me. Okay. All right. Well, have I got news for you? Wow. They’re all whales. All dolphins are toothed whales. Okay. So they’re whales. A killer whale is also a dolphin because it’s toothed. Bingo. Bingo. Okay. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Also, “Orca isn’t a less offensive term for killer whale. Orcinus orca roughly translates to demon of the sea. Plus it’s not like orcas would give a flying F beep boop about our human opinions anyways. They’d probably love being called killer whales because they’re assholes. Super intelligent badass-holes.” That’s what somebody said. You’ve seen like, the footage of the toothed whale orca batting around a dolphin of the flipper variety. I’ve seen them do it with the seals. And the seals. But they also like, bat around dolphins. They’ll eat a dolphin. Man, we gotta- I know they are a dolphin. I can’t wait. But you know what I mean? Until we can talk to them. They’re getting close to it. They used AI to have a conversation with a humpback whale. Oh man, it’s gonna be crazy. It’s gonna be crazy because their brains are so big. The dolphin’s brain is bigger than our brain. But the things that they care about are things that are so different than us. I would say I would go a step beyond the things that they care about. Yes, that’s one way of putting it. But like, the type of intelligence is so different. It’s like an octopus. The reason that they ended up having this conversation. They’re using AI to have this conversation with the humpback whale, in hopes of learning how to communicate with another intelligent being that doesn’t think about the world in the same way that we do. We have this like assumption that there’s going to be like, some kind of language that we have to decipher or whatever. But those things are so smart, and way smarter than us in a whole lot of areas that we don’t need to be smart in. And then, we’re a lot smarter in a bunch of areas that we need to be smarter in. I would love a dolphin friend though. Put my toad on top of him so he stays outta the water. Since we’re talking about language and translation, I’m gonna totally, I’m gonna skip down to one that I wasn’t ready to talk about yet. That’s the fidelity of this podcast. That’s what can happen, Rhett. You can say something and it will totally change the entire order with which I try to surprise you. Unless this is all part of your plan. No, it wasn’t. I think it’s been pretty clear that I’ve had a really loose plan. All right, so Sign Language. American Sign Language is separate from other Sign Language. American Sign Language. I know you already know that. American Sign Language- I do not know American Sign Language. I know you don’t know it, but you know that it’s called American Sign Language for a reason. Is it different than British Sign Language? I certainly hope not. Why? Well, I mean, just if you’re starting from scratch, inventing a language, that is, you know, supposed to be used with hearing impaired people. It’s quite an opportunity, isn’t it? It’s a quite an opportunity to develop a universal language. It is. So I’ve never thought about this before. Yeah. But just because of the way you’re asking it, I’m convinced that American Sign Language is just Sign Language. You’re making an excellent point, and I’m sorry to say that American Sign Language and British Sign Language are completely different. The way that this person puts it, “For the last 39 years, I have worked as an American Sign Language interpreter. I cannot even spell my name in British Sign Language.” It’s that different. British Sign Language uses two hands. American Sign Language uses one hand, and is based on French Sign Language. But you are exactly right. People were making this point. Like, Japanese Sign Language and American Sign Language may not be mutually in intelligible, but it’s shocking to hear British and American, or like, universally speaking that this opportunity wasn’t taken to just, “Yes, let’s just keep adopting the same one.” I mean, especially American coming from French. I don’t know, it’s very separatist. You know, I guess that’s the American spirit. To me- To be more French than British when separating. The idea that like, okay, Japanese Sign Language. If you think about the way like Mandarin works, which I can’t speak it, and I don’t know anything about it other than the fact that there are like different tones and that we don’t do that kind of thing in English. And obviously like it, the way that the characters are written is a completely different thing. So, because those languages are so different, you would kind of expect the Sign Language to be different. But the American and British thing, that just sounds like somebody did something outta spite. Well, it’s a little more like pragmatic than that. The first comment underneath. “Spoken and Sign Languages don’t have much in common. So just because the speaking populations of Britain and the USA share a language doesn’t mean that the Sign Languages of the respective populations are in any way mutually intelligible. Americans speak English because British people moved to the US, and displaced the Native Americans who spoke very different languages. There was no large scale migration of British Sign Language users to influence American Sign Language. BSL and ASL could be as different as English and Japanese. On a related note, consider that a congenitally deaf person learning to read the native spoken language of their country is learning abstract symbols that are totally and completely meaningless and opaque to them. It’s far more difficult for them to map the letters to their phenims, because the written word is a representation of spoken language.” So that the only way in- That they’ve never heard. The only way into what this language is symbolizing is the word. So you make the connection to the word versus the connection all the way to the thing the word references. Yeah. But it just feels like you could do that. Okay, if I’m talking about a mug, right? Or a cup or whatever. I don’t know how specific it gets. It just feels like there’s an opportunity here. And I’m not saying we should be the boys to do anything about it. I’m just saying somebody should. Somebody commented your initial reaction. Somebody’s like, “There’s different types of Sign Language?” And it’s like, “Yes, it really pisses me off. We had the perfect opportunity to create a near globally recognized language for tens of millions of people or more, and we just didn’t?” Question mark. Somebody responds. I’m reading this for the first time, so let’s just see how it goes. “That’s not how language works. You can’t just create a universal language out of thin air. More specifically, language changes by region according to the unique anthropological factors of a given population, and children add systematic new grammar rules. This is what fuzzy old people and insufferable prescriptives are referring to when they complain about slang. This hypothetical universal language would stop being universal within a generation.” That’s a good point. And then the person responded, “Yeah, I suppose you’re right. Still though.” Just to piggyback off of that, with the British Sign Language: there’s also New Zealand Sign Language and Australian Sign Language. But because they use a two handed alphabet, they’re still considered the same language but different dialects, because they have different slang terms and different ways of like, holding and motioning their hands. So like- Totally. There are different dialects, even though- That totally makes sense. Well, Americans, the one hand thing though, because you gotta hold a hamburger in one hand, and you gotta do the Sign Language. That’s exactly why they did it. In the other hand. Or maybe a hot dog. You know. We don’t need to check that. We don’t need to check that. Most American foods. That’s a fact. Here’s one for those interested in crime. This is a security guard. He says or she, “CCTV. That CCTV you think is keeping an eye on your safety? Chances are it broke years ago, and they couldn’t be bothered getting a contractor out to fix it. I’ve never worked in a facility with more than 60% of cameras operational. But do you want to take that risk?” So you’re just telling me things now, you’re just reading things? Yeah, yeah. That is what happens. I just start reading Reddit and it’s like- Is this CCTV person in Europe? What? I don’t know. Because we don’t have- Are they using two hands? We don’t have the CCTV in America the way they have it in Europe. Well, they’re talking about facilities, like security cameras in like, you know- Well, in like, England? I bet they keep those up. It’s everything. Yeah. Like everything you do is on camera. Everything. Yeah. You’re signing with both hands and they can get it all. And I think that a lot of those probably work. But you’re saying that like, a private facility. That’s what I took it to mean. I mean, a lot of times, they don’t get the security system. They get the sign they put in their front yard that says they have the security system. Right, right. It’s cheaper that way. All right, here’s one. This is kind of a non-sequitur, but like, you have experience with this, so I wanna see what you think. This person is combating a misunderstanding about construction work. This person asserts, “Construction is fun. Hard work, but fun.” This is a misconception? Yeah. I mean, it has a lot of up votes. I mean, what kind of discipline are they exerting in this thread, this subreddit? This guy should have been kicked out. Power to the people, man. You know, people think construction is not fun. Apparently, it is fun. We’ve been over here. Have you been thinking construction is not fun? I have to be honest, I’ve been thinking construction’s not that fun. You have to wear a hard hat. I mean, it seems like you’re in constant danger. It’s as if you go through a neighborhood and you recognize everybody and want to hug them, but they have a dog beside them. That’s what construction work is to me. But think about this: think about the difference between data entry or, you know, even like, being at a call center compared to construction work. Construction work, you’re outside, you’re doing something physical. You’re right. You’re working with other people. You have a sense of accomplishment. You can look at the thing and there- You’re seeing it happen. “I built that.” Yeah. It’s fun. That’s the thing I like about like, hiking at places that then I can go back to, and if it’s a high spot, I can be down from that high spot and I can go by it and be like, “I hiked up there once.” You know, there’s that high spot behind our house? And sometimes I’ll just look at it and be like- “I’ve been up there.” “I’ve been up there a couple of times.” And sometimes, I’ll tell people. “I’ve been up there.” It’s satisfying. So if I could go by a building, skyscraper, lowscraper, I don’t know, ranch house, be like, “I built that,” that would be- Of course you’d say- That’d be pretty satisfying. Which is a component of fun. I need to go find that house that I helped build in high school. I bet you Trent could help us find it. The one house that, like the foreman put you, 16-year-old Rhett, in charge of framing. It was Mr. Fred and me and Trent all summer long. I mean, it took us a lot longer to frame a house than it would have if we had any idea what we were doing. Did you have fun? The most fun. The most fun. We would take breaks. Mr. Fred would smoke a cigarette. And we would eat figs from a tree in the yard. That sounds like the most fun. The fig tree. That’s it? That’s all it took to have fun? No, I mean, you know, putting up a wall, getting into the corner and realizing that the closet is about a foot smaller than it should be, and just being like, “Well, I mean, how many shirts do they need?” And just going on about your business, that kind of thing. That’s fun, man. I mean, somebody said, “We had a blast most days. It’s raining? Sweet. Let’s get muddy AF and write things on the boards using the mud.” On sunny days,”- You’re not really selling it. “We write things on the boards with permanent markers.” So you can put graffiti- So the first two things that you listed is writing on the boards. Yeah, writing on the boards. Well, what happened to the sense of accomplishment that Link was just talking about? Being able to look at what you just built. This is the same person, by the way. Took a dump on the construction site? “Dumped a tank of Gatorade on his supervisor once.” Yeah. I mean, this is like the Super Bowl. “Talk shit all day.” Did you talk shit? Oh, the most shit. Oh, you did? Mr. Fred talked so much shit to us, man. Could you imagine just a couple of 16 year olds? He was retired. He was doing it just to stay busy. Just to talk shit. It’s like basically getting Shepherd and Lando to put up a house. You imagine all the stuff we’d say to them? He would get angry, right? I remember you saying he would get so angry. He was so mad at us. He was wonderful. He’s dead now. But apparently he had a lot of fun. Trent texted me like, a few years back. He was like, “Mr. Fred passed.” I mean, he was sitting there smoking like a chimney in the mid ’90s. It’s quite an accomplishment that he made it as far as he did. Are you having fun? Do you want a few more? I’m having a lot of fun. I’m almost about to fall asleep. Not fully. What about, “Egyptians didn’t worship cats”? Does that strike your fancy? No, not really? Okay. I didn’t think that. Yeah. I didn’t think that either. What about, “Which would you rather buy? Genuine leather or full grain leather?” These are the type of things. This is a great thread, man. Which is better? Which you wanna buy? I would be- Genuine leather. I would be completely guessing if I were to guess. So I know nothing about leather. Although I have watched the- You’re abstaining? I have watched a few TikToks of a guy making a leather drum. Uh-huh? It’s incredible. So, you’re not gonna even commit? 50/50 chance. You’re afraid? Which one’s better? Which one would you rather have? Yeah. I mean, genuine probably means it’s actually from a cow, and full grain means it’s from a cow that is a little bit better. Full grain. I’m going full grain. You’re right, Rhett. I wish you weren’t, but you are. You’re right again, buddy. “Full grain leather’s what you want. Genuine leather means it’s technically leather, but it’s often corrected grain, meaning the top surface isn’t really leather. Rather the top layer of skin is sanded down or split, and some kind of synthetic topping is added that looks perfect but will not wear nicely.” Oh. So you want full grain leather. Full grain, ’cause it goes all the way through. But the thing is, when you’re there in the belt shop or whatever, it’s not like they have both signs. You’re just gonna see, “Genuine leather”, and you’re gonna be like, “That must be the good one, ’cause it’s the only one I see.” Don’t fall for that. Right. That’s important. That’s important, because if I got genuine leather, and then you told me that there was a fake piece of leather on top of it, I’d be like, “Oh, okay. That’s deceptive.” You don’t want that. This might be the most useful thing you’ve told me today. All right, what about this? How do you feel about insurance adjusters? Buckle up. This podcast is about to go through the stratosphere. Are you about to tell me why insurance adjusting is fun? Are you suspicious of insurance adjusters? Well, I mean, yeah. In light of where you’re getting this information from, yes. I mean, when my house flooded and the guy showed up to adjust the insurance, I don’t even know exactly why. There’s a reason, but I don’t know what it is. I was very suspicious. You know, it’s like, “You’re gonna give me the money so that I can fix this?” And then they were like, “Well, we’re gonna put these suckers down first to see if we can get the moisture out, and then if that doesn’t work, then we’ll replace everything.” So I didn’t have a good feeling. I was like, “How long is that gonna take?” And by the way, it didn’t work. And then we got these like, suction machines that are like, using all my electricity, trying to suck the moisture out of my hardwood floors for like, over a week. Loud, inconvenient. And then it didn’t work. They tried. So I had a bad taste in my mouth about this insurance adjuster. They gotta go through their things. But let me at least let this guy defend himself. “I’m an insurance adjuster.” Oh, okay. This is from the adjuster’s mouth? “I have no intent or motivation to quote, “Cheat you on your claim.” I’ve handled a zillion claims like yours. They provoke no particular reaction from me, unless it involves extreme injury or death.” Okay, so, he’s not a psycho. Well, who does he work for? “Insurance is a heavily regulated industry. We are surprise audited three times a year by the Department of Insurance on our claims and business practices. If there was any evidence that adjusters got great raises or bonuses, as if, due to the amount of money we saved on paying claims, the company would be fined millions of dollars and potentially lose the right to operate in the state in which those practices occur. And when someone says they’re getting an attorney,” bless you. “I have to practically staple my mouth shut to avoid saying, “Can I offer you a referral?” Because I would much rather speak to an attorney any day of the week, than some distrusting.” I think he’s just letting off steam here. He’s like, every situation you go into, people don’t trust you. They think you’re scum. They think you’re trying to pull one over on them. Well, this is a good example of, you know- Now, we’re not talking about health insurance. That’s another ball of wax. Let’s just put that to the side. But this is a good example of like, when he talks about, there’s no motivation. Well, there was motivation at one point, which is why they developed regulations of this particular industry. This is one of the example. Everybody’s like, anti-regulation. But there’s so many examples of why we have regulations. Because insurance is a private business. It is a profit-driven business, right? And so if you don’t have regulations, of course you’re gonna get screwed by the insurance adjusters, because they are motivated to make as much money as they possibly can, and to keep all of the money that you’ve been paying in premiums, and not have to pay out adequately for whatever happened. So they’re gonna minimize, right? This is actually kind of comforting to know that like, “Yeah, we’re audited, we’re audited by some agency, some evil government agency that is designed to actually make sure that insurance adjusters are doing what they’re supposed to do.” I mean, I don’t know anything about this industry at all, but this is a case of not all regulations are bad. Regulations exist for a very particular reason in different industries. Well, I think this is really just a case of don’t shoot the messenger. Like, this guy’s doing his job. It’s kind of like a meter person, parking meter officer. You know? It’s like they’ve got a shit job where it’s like, every time that they interact with somebody, it’s somebody who’s angry, because they’re just doing their job. And maybe you have your reason why you were late or the parking was weird. Or you can have a defense, but like, don’t make it to that person, you know? It is more of the system. But that being said, I mean, somebody was pointing out, “Well, can’t you see that an individual adjuster may have no reason to be inefficient? But the system itself has reasons to be inefficient, because the inefficiency in making every single task throughout the process more difficult and time-consuming and confusing as possible is beneficial to the insurance companies.” How did he answer that? What did he say? He dipped. He was out. He’s putting together an answer. He was out. You know, hate the machine. Don’t hate the driver, you know? Okay. It’s tough. It’s a tough world. A lot of ins and outs, you know? Frogs are toads, man. Nope. Toads are frogs. I already had it wrong. What have we learned today? I tried to summarize it and I got it backwards. All toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads. All orcas are dolphins, and all dolphins are toothed whales. But not all whales are orcas. Right. Bats have eyes that they can use. They use. That’s true. I learned a lot. Is that it? That’s it. I’m sorry. I’ll be thinking about this for quite a while. I’m sorry I disappointed you. No, you didn’t disappoint me. Oh, I mean you’re so- I feel great. You’re a shell of a man, man. Are you broke? Is that the problem? Is that what you found out? That’s from my financial planning meeting. I’m broke. Yeah. I got something to tell you. We are broke. I did find it interesting. One of the things that we discussed today, just that you’re talking about it, we’re talking about insurance. And then, basically if I die, you get money. And if you die, I get money. But is it enough money? Well, I mean, we are always revisiting that. Okay. So you talk about incentive. Yeah. You gotta make yourself worth more than what I would get to kill you. That’s the incentive. That’s what our whole career is based on at this point. We have to each be worth more than it would just be for just the other guy to murder the other guy and get away with it. I don’t think you get it if you murder me, dude. Oh, well it would be accidental, as far as everybody else is concerned. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I don’t think you could get away with murdering me, but I think I could get away with murdering you. I think you’ve made it more difficult. Now that I’ve talked about it on the internet. Damn. The way that I’ve been acting for years is- I told him it was genuine leather. See, I’m good at. Doesn’t make a lot of sense, ’cause you don’t know exactly what I’m talking about. But it’s just the way I would defend myself. “Your honor, I told him it was genuine leather.” I don’t know what you’re talking about, but I’ve been building my entire persona as a cover for when I murder you. So it’s like, “He never could have gotten away with it.” ‘Cause it could be accidental. Yeah. He can’t plan things through. If you kill me in an accident, do you still get paid? Could you get charged with involuntary manslaughter? Because if you like, gesture with a knife and it just goes right into my jugular. If I killed you on this show. “He didn’t mean to, your honor.” Everyone knows you didn’t mean to, but do you still get the payout? Even though you might still go to jail for negligence, or at least like a civil suit. What’s gonna happen is you’re gonna accidentally kill me with a knife while gesturing. I’m gonna get the cash. You’re gonna get the cash, but then my wife is gonna sue you for the cash, and she’s gonna get it. Okay. It’s like a TV movie. I gotta take this into account. You might need to make this exact movie that we’ve just outlined. I got a rec. It’s a documentary on Netflix that you watched, that then I turned around and watched with Christie. Whoa, yeah. If you’re in your 40s like we are. You’re gonna love it. I think you might have to be at least 43 to really, really enjoy it. You think so? Yeah. To really enjoy it, to feel like that you were old enough to like have a point of reference for it. If you remember this wen it happened. It’s a documentary called We Are One. It is the We Are The World documentary, The Greatest Night In Pop. You know, it’s the story of Lionel Richie and Michael Jackson writing the song We Are The World. And then Lionel’s manager, like basically producing the event, like the logistics of bringing together, like, so many stars from music to have a little piece of the vocal performance. And the way that they went about it. It was a live performance. They were all in the same room together, and it was like one night, one fateful night. The greatest night in pop history. I don’t watch a lot of music documentaries. I know you do, but for me, yeah, it was the point of reference of being this thing that the complexity of what it would take in order to actually pull this off didn’t cross my mind as a child watching it. It was just like, all my favorite people in one place. But then you start thinking, “What does it take to get all your favorite people in one place?” And then what happens when you have all of those egos in one room? For- So many wonderful hours. For many, many hours until you’re trying to get this song right, you know? And it heavily features the Lionel Richie. So you can’t go wrong with that. So yeah, it’s called We Are One. Check it out. And in the meantime, we would appreciate it if you would leave a rating and a review of this podcast on your favorite podcast service. We would also appreciate it if you would leave us a voicemail with your comments, questions, accusations at 1888 EARPOD1. We’ll talk to you next week. Hey, Rhett and Link, I just finished an online course and during lunchtime I sorted my mail. Literally sorted the mail. And when we came back from lunch, the instructor asked everybody what they did at lunchtime. And I said I sorted the mail, kind of hoping that someone else might know what the innuendo meant, even though I wasn’t serious about it. However, nobody reacted, but at least in my own head, I was able to laugh about sorting the mail. Thanks, Link. Bye.

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