Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for too long. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we’re hearing about how you occupied yourself while I was occupying myself away. That’s right. And it’s, you know, last week we talked about your spring break, and I had my own working spring break. Let’s be real. I mean, a working lunch. When the cat’s away. And that’s when I recorded my illustrious Jenna podcast. Which, you know, Jenna, people love it. People have been loving your podcast. People are now going- Oh, it’s my podcast. Yeah. That was your episode. All about Jenna’s SoCal challenge. Everybody’s doing that now. Everybody’s doing it, thanks to Jenna. He’s getting in the ocean, getting in the snow, getting in the desert. You gotta work your way up. Get in all the things. But then, the week after you got back, which we didn’t talk about last week, you might have alluded to a little bit, was that like, we met up in North Carolina. Oh hell yeah. We did. And- Worked. We did some- We worked it so hard. We filmed the dream, baby. Man. We had dreamed up some stuff. You know? So excited. I just wanna like, give you a little touch point here. We’re still not telling you the name of our new series. We should do that soon though. On the Rhett and Link channel, but it is coming out in August, and we shot principal photography for two different episodes back in North Carolina. One in our old stomping grounds. And one in slightly different location. I’m so excited about it. I’m feeling so good. I’ve been telling. All my like family and friends who I can like, divulge some of the details, I kind of tell them, “Okay, well this is what happens in this one, and this is what happens in this one, and this is what we shot and this is what happened.” And also while we’re doing it, I’m so excited. I’m so excited about what’s happening as we’re making this show. Yeah. My experience is this tension between like, caring about it so much. It’s not like shooting a scripted television series or a movie, where it’s like, “As long as we can make our days and you know, everything’s planned out right, then we know we’re gonna get it.” Like, the way that we’re approaching this show is that there’s so many question marks, so many open-ended places in our outlines that are like, “Dot, dot, dot. Hopefully this will happen, but maybe something different will happen,” and then we have to kind of roll with it. And so, when we’re actually filming, lots of times there’s a huge question mark of like, “What is actually going to happen?” We know what we wish will happen, but this is not all under our control. So, there’s a tension of being, you know, on edge about that, making sure we’ve got it. But then also the flip side is this is what we’ve planned out and what we’ve like, been so excited about, and we’re actually doing it. So I wanna make sure that I’m enjoying it and saying, “Oh yeah, this is it. We are doing it.” Yeah, and that’s a really difficult thing for me to do, is to enjoy the process. But I’ve noted, either because I’m a little healthier than I have been in the past, like mentally in terms of my perspective. Yeah. Or just because it is what it is, and we’re making something that is exactly what we wanna make. I don’t know. I found myself having this sense of satisfaction. And also, the unpredictability. The things that are outside of our control in each step of this. The thing that hit me with those three days that we shot is that at the end of each day, especially the second and the third day, where we were kind of shooting the ends of two different episodes, getting to the end of the day and being like- “We got it.” “We got it. We got what we wanted to get.” You know? Just fills me with this incredible feeling. It’s a relief. Then it’s an excitement. I’m like, “Wow, this is actually gonna be a thing.” Well, in that sense. This is the case whether it’s scripted. You know, again, it’s a little bit of a hybrid, but whether it’s scripted or not scripted, whatever we’re shooting, and whether it’s what we’re shooting now, what we’ve shot in the past, there is always this sense of, I kind of just have to trust the process and trust the vision, ’cause you do tend to get lost in the moment. But it is those moments when I think about the pieces of like, say one of the episodes that we shot there, the episode we shot on the second day. First and second day. Yeah. In my mind, I see all the pieces of that episode coming together and then I’m like, “What would I think if I was just a person watching this?” I would be delighted at the things that occurred. It’s gonna be delightful. You know what I’m saying? And that’s all we can do. Just wait until August. Is it gonna come together in the way that we wanted to? I mean, you never know. I’ve never watched. Can you name one time in the history of our career that you watched the first edit of anything and felt great? I never feel great about the first edit. And so, I just have emotionally prepared myself for like, “There’s the vision, then there’s what you make.” And then there’s working your way through it in post to get to- Yeah. The final product. And it’s just- But we’re not to that point. It’s an emotional roller coaster. But the thing that we experienced is we were back in Harnett County. Harnett County, boys. Back in Harnett County. Everywhere we go, there’s somebody who recognizes us. “Oh, you’re the hometown boys. You’re those guys who,” you know? Even if you don’t really understand what we do. Lillington’s got a new coffee shop, and you know, I stayed with Mom. Oh, and also, I’ll tell you about like, my mom and my mother-in-Law are now here. Well, yeah. I gotta hear about this. So I gotta tell you about that, and that flight. But I was like, “Mom, before we go visit Nana, I gotta get a coffee.” And there’s been one drive through place in Lillington. The old gas station. Well, yeah. And she said, “Well, there’s another place now. The old photography place is now a coffee shop.” And they got a nice coffee shop there. Front Street coffee shop, right there in Lillington. Let me tell you, shout out to Front Street Coffee. I went in there. I had my hat and I had my sunglasses on, and I needed to get to Nana’s, so I was just going get a coffee. And I was like, “I don’t see anybody that I went to grade school, high school or that taught me anywhere.” And it’s like, everywhere I turn, especially in Lillington, is, “I taught you in preschool.” Kind of a thing. Or my cousin’s sister dated your ex-girlfriend. Right. And now their child wants to get on a video chat with you. I ordered a iced oat milk latte with a little bit of lavender. In Lillington, homie. Yeah. That’s become your drink now. Oat milk latte with lavender. Well, don’t criticize it. My point is- I feel like you need a name for it. It was available in the county seat of Harnett. The Linkender. Okay. Yeah. And in this coffee shop. I mean, Lillington has really made it. There were two booths. What’s the decor like? Coffee shop. But there were these two booths. I ordered my drink and then I kind of walked around. ‘Cause I wanted to look at like, “How advanced is this coffee shop?” You looked at the plumbing? Is it rural, or is it urban out here? And they had two booths, and the people were sitting there, it was like a little table. And then people were facing each other in this booth. But it was behind glass doors. You could have a completely private conversation. And they were tall glass doors. I could see them from foot to head. It’s a privacy booth? Two privacy booths in there, where you can have your coffee with your friend, with your confidant. And then, you can confess things to them. I’ve never seen this at any coffee shop. Anyway. Yes, yes. But what’s the angle here? The future is now, in Lillington. So it’s like those little pods that you can put into like, an office. It’s like what we were talking about doing here, which is like, we have this big bullpen area. So everybody’s out there, you know, hearing each other’s phone conversations. Creating some privacy pods. Yeah. Creating some privacy pods. They had privacy booths in the coffee shop. This is strange to me. Like I’m excited about it, but I’m also perplexed. Yeah. There were people in them? There were people in them. What was one of them crying? Was somebody breaking up in one of them? No. Was a priest in either one- A priest was not in either one of them. Wow. But I did say, “Okay, I think one of these women in here goes to my Nana’s church.” But you didn’t know ’cause you couldn’t hear her. I think her son is a contemporary of ours. Contemporary. So, “I’m gonna get my coffee, I’m gonna get outta here.” So they came out and I went out another way. And then they met me. You went out the back door? I went out the front. I came in the side door and I went out the front door, ’cause I needed to get to Nana’s. They got two doors. And then they come out and they’re like, “Are you?” And I’m like, “I am.” And they’re like, “Well, I work at this beauty shop down here, and I just, one of the girls who works there just watches you every day. I need you to go down there.” Oh, she wants you to go down there. And then the other woman said, “And when you see your mama, will you tell her that so and so says hello?” I was like, “Well, she’s in the car right out here. You can go talk to her while I go in the beauty parlor.” And here I go in the beauty parlor. Oh, man of the people. I can run for office. I mean, they have privacy booths at the coffee shop. I don’t know if you wanna do that. I think I could go back home now. And that’s what I’ve been waiting on. I made an appearance at the Lillington Beauty Parlor. Okay. All right. But if you wanna win the office you’re running for in Harnett County, when you go to the coffee shop, don’t get an oat milk latte with lavender. I’m just saying. If you wanna win. They had it, man. No, it’s great. It’s a great choice for you, but I’m saying- I’m not running for office. It’s not a political choice. Not a great political choice. And when we were together, of course, even more so there’s this thing. But we were out in the middle. I’m gonna tell this story. Out in the middle of nowhere, Harnett County. Oh, that story. Yeah. Yes. We needed to get a drone shot. Spoiler. Spoiler alert. There’s a drone. Our new show has at least one drone shot, so buckle up for that. Drone shots are like the privacy booth of the film industry. You know, it’s like the coffee shop privacy booth of filmmaking. That’s a great analogy. And we pulled up- I don’t know how. We pulled up into the parking lot of Pleasant Union Baptist Church. Is that what it is? We were just looking for a country road to shoot a nice drone shot, and then we like- And their parking lot is interesting, because they’ve somehow got parking on the road that like, you know what I’m saying? Like, you’re on the road and you just pull. You don’t enter the parking lot. It’s like the parking spaces are perpendicular to the road. Yeah. When you back out, you’re backing out. And so we kinda like parked perpendicular to the parking spaces. Nobody was there. We had two SUVs, and another vehicle. You have three vehicles that we’re using. One might call it a caravan. And so we all parked there, and I was thinking, ’cause this happened a couple of times during that shoot, like when we pulled up to a place, people start asking questions. People drive by and they’re like, “What are these two, like SUVs? What are these vehicles doing? Because I don’t know what’s happening. Oh.” And they come out- And then the people who come out look different. Like, when they ambushed me at the coffee shop by meeting me and it’s like, “Hey, hey, hey.” And I turned around and they’re like. The first thing they said was, “We look at you and could tell that you’re not from around here.” And I’m like, “Oh yeah? I actually am from around here.” And they said they knew who I was. But like that was the first thing. And I was like, “What about me?” What about you looks like you’re not from around there? Have you looked in the mirror? Everything, I guess. So, yeah. So, we pull up there. They went like 100 yards down the street, down the road, on the street, in order to set up the drone shot. And it took them a while. And while they’re doing that, we’re just sitting back in the vehicle, just waiting. And a car pulls up and a woman gets out, another car pulls up, woman gets out. They’re having some sort of event. Turns out this is a woman’s bible study. Women’s bible study. Women’s. Usually what I say. I mean, there’s multiple women. It’s not just one woman studying the Bible. But there was probably one woman in charge. I don’t know how they handle it. I’ve never been to a women’s bible study. I’ve always wanted to go, wonder what happens in there. And I look and- Not allowed though. So it was a teenager, a mom, and then like, an older woman. And I look and I’m like- I think we recognized at the exact same time. “That is Denise.” We went to school with Denise. Denise was- Went to high school- In our like, friend group. Grade school, high school with Denise. She was in our friend group. So we get outta the car and it was Denise and Denise’s youngest daughter, who’s 14. And then we’re like, hugging Denise saying, “Oh my God, it’s been so long since we’ve seen you.” Meeting her daughter. And then, the woman there, I looked at her, I was like, “It was Miss Pollock, my Computer Applications teacher.” I never had that class, but I knew her. Yeah, I was like, “I was talking about you the other day. I need to teach my kids how to type properly. They don’t know how to type.” And she was like, “Well, I didn’t teach you typing. I taught you Computer Application. I remember when you got on top of the filing cabinet.” And I’m like, “Well, I don’t remember that.” It was filing. You were filing. I don’t know. I was raising hell in one way or another. And then, we’re waiting, waiting. And then more people show up. Every single person that showed up, we had some sort of connection. Yeah. It was crazy. Every single car. And then Denise is like, “Well, let me go inside and get somebody.” And then she brings out Ms. Coleman. Like, one of our other closest friends’ mom. Right. And like, we’re talking to her. And then other people who we never actually met, who were very close to somebody that we had met. So that connection, and, “Can y’all make a video?” Yeah. We started making video- Right now. “Can you make a video for this person?” Like, “Don’t y’all have a bible to study?” But it was cool to see them. It was just this reminder of how small. And we weren’t just in one town. We were kind of in the county, but just how connected everybody is. It’s nice to go back. There was a tinge- Oh yeah. We heard this- Several times. Catchphrase a number of times from people who weren’t together, who didn’t hear it from people. This wasn’t people glomming on to some message. But like, “Y’all need to remember your roots. You need to remember where you came from.” Apparently the word has gotten out. “Remember your roots.” I’m like, “Well, we’re back here.” You know? It’s funny. “I remember.” Well, the thing I told you is that- It ain’t that bad. We’re doing great. I remember my roots and I am who I am. Right. It’s a good arrangement. I think the thing that I tend to remember are the things that I’ve said about the things that many of those people hold dear. And I haven’t said that much, but I’ve said enough to have ruffled feathers, you know? And it’s funny, because it’s like I was telling y’all when we got back in the car, I really love all those people, right? And it’s like, “Yeah, I disagree with some of the conclusions that they’ve come to.” And obviously, me sort of saying things about my former worldview can only be taken as a condemnation, or at least a critique of their worldview. And when I meet them and I hear those things, and it feels like there’s this heaviness, even as you’re getting to see somebody again, there’s a little bit of this like, “Yeah, y’all went to California, and know you’ve said some stuff about Christianity. Maybe I haven’t watched the episode, but I’ve heard from somebody who heard from somebody,” and who knows what they’ve actually heard at this point? Yeah. And what’s been said. I just feel bad. My personality, just ’cause I’m a people pleaser is this like, “Well man, I hate that they’re upset about it.” Well, it’s a bummer that it’s like, we’re so happy to see each other. They’re happy to see us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, after a few minutes, there’s this tinge of, “I’m not quite as happy as I could have been.” Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And that’s okay. It’s okay. Here’s the thing. It doesn’t make me upset with them. It doesn’t make me mad at them. It makes me upset that they’re upset. I’m just like- You don’t wanna- “Maybe I shouldn’t talk about this.” You don’t wanna disappoint the county. Yeah, right. And again, I don’t know what it is, if it’s just my people pleasing. I just want people to like me. Don’t not like me because I said some weird stuff about Jesus, you know? You can still like me. I do feel like they like me a little more than they like you. Yeah. Yeah. They do. As it should be. They definitely feel like it’s my fault. Most of it does seem directed at me. I have more people in Harnett County, too. ‘Cause my family hasn’t- Your parents moved there. Don’t live there anymore. But like, I have generations who are like- Yeah, that’s not where my family’s from. Harnett and the surrounding county. So, I’m more the homeboy. And clearly, just under your constant negative influence. Right? Yeah. You know? It’s like I just need to spend more time in that coffee shop confession booth. Yeah. Confession was part. I don’t want to give away too much. 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I’m gonna have some more flexibility next week. Even for like a matinee type situation.” Oh, really? Potentially. You know? I don’t like watching a movie at night during the week. You know, that’s a big commitment. Oh, okay. Makes me a little nervous. What do you think’s gonna happen? Might get stuck there? I might miss my bedtime. Might miss my bedtime. So I was like, “Yes, I wanna do this.” We set a time for Tuesday, late afternoon. And then we could like, grab dinner with the girls so we’d like had a double date afterward. But I didn’t know anything about this movie. And I was like, “This is great.” I knew the name of it and I knew that he wanted to see it. Late Night With The Devil is what it was called. And when he first asked about it, I just pulled it up, Late Night With The Devil and it says something about, “Late night host in the ’80s.” It was like some sort of rivalry. And I was like, “Okay, this will be fun. Sounds like a funny movie.” And then I didn’t look at anything else, because I don’t like. There’s certain things where having shaped expectations are good, and there’s certain things when it’s bad. Like going into a movie that you know you’re gonna see, and having all these expectations, seeing trailers, it starts to shape things too much. And I don’t like that. I love going into a movie as blind as possible, so that I can experience. When a filmmaker makes a movie, they’re not thinking, “Well, I gotta make this movie for people, “Well, you’ve already seen the trailer so you know everything that happens, so now I gotta make the movie given that you’ve seen all the marketing.”” Filmmakers don’t think about the marketing. They think about the film. And then the marketers like, put all that stuff on it. You know? So, the less of that you can let enter your brain, the more you can enjoy the film as the maker intended. Especially if it’s a movie that you already know that you want to see it. Like, “There’s no question, I wanna see the next Dune,” or whatever. So I hadn’t heard of this movie. I knew I was gonna see it. And so, I didn’t look at anything else. But there’s the middle of the road films, which are films that you decide to see because of the trailer. But usually- I don’t do that. The way I make a decision about seeing a movie is Rotten Tomatoes though. Yeah. Unless you go to the movie and see the trailers. I’ll only look at trailers if I look at them when I’m at another movie. And I’m trying to get where I can show up late, and I miss those, ’cause there’s 35 minutes worth of shit, before you get in- Oh, 35. No, see if you go there. 28. Just last night? Definitely 20 minutes. Last night I went to a movie, and I was like, well, same thing. I was thinking, “I don’t wanna sit here for these trailers.” So we got there a bit late, we got some food, I go in. It was a six o’clock movie. Same thing. It was a school night, you know? Six o’clock movie. I go to the bathroom at 6:12. All the urinals were broken. I saw a line coming outta the men’s restroom. I was like, “This does not happen to us. We only have penises. If you have a penis, you don’t have to wait for a bathroom.” No. No. It’s our right. You just whip it out. It’s our birthright as men. Yeah, it’s one of the great things about having a penis. But there was a line. I was like, “This is not good.” And then, after I waited for five minutes, I saw all the urinals are busted. So it’s just four stalls that we’re all sharing. And then I started getting a little bit nervous. It got to 6:20. And I got back and there was still a trailer going. Of course. But see, it wasn’t 35 minutes. I would say it was 27. 27 minutes, y’all. You can show up at easily 20 minutes after the start time of your movie. Depends on what theater you go to. At AMC. AMC. If you go to AMC, that’s where I go most of the time that’s the case. Because they have the ads and all that other shit. Nicole Kidman. I don’t care. I don’t skip that. Don’t care about that. I care a lot about it. Sometimes I just watch it on my own. So, movies aren’t something that you want to have a lot of formed expectations. Beverages, totally different story. When it comes to a beverage, you need to know what you’re about to drink. “Is this a Guinness? Or is this a Sprite?” Is this Coke or tobacco juice? Right. Is this milk? I mean, milk tastes great, unless you think you’re going to get kombucha or vice versa. Yeah. Spoilers for beverages is a completely different thing. Exactly. You want to have expectations. So, I met Daniel at the movie. We go in there, we sit down, we were on time, so we had to endure the trailer. So I wasn’t happy about this. And I start watching the trailer. I’m like, after the first trailer, I turned to him. I was like, you know how you do. It’s either thumbs up, thumbs down, “I’m gonna see that, I’m not.” And I was like, “This thing looks demented. I’m not seeing this movie.” I’m like, “No.” And he’s like, “Well, I think I gotta see that.” And then, the next one was a trailer about a spider that a little girl gets, but the spider keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And what’s that called? And I think it’s called Big Spider With Girl. I don’t know what it’s called, because I don’t care- The Girl With The Big Spider. I don’t need to know what it’s called, ’cause I’m not gonna see this. And that’s what I told Daniel. And then the third trailer comes on and it’s like some Texas Chainsaw type vibe. And I turn to him and I’m like, “There sure are a lot of horror trailers coming on before this comedy movie.” Yeah, ’cause you’re at a movie called Late Night With The Devil. And he turned, he looked at me a bit puzzled and he said, “I don’t know whether to take you seriously or not.” Well yeah. Stand in line. “It’s because this is a horror movie.” And I was like, “I did not know that.” This is like when Christie went to see Get Out. Yes, we took Christie to see Get Out, and she had the same exact experience. She was like, “Why are all these?” She thought it was a comedy. Because it was Jordan Peele. No one told her. He’s doing a different thing now. So, Late Night With The Devil, it’s a rivalry between two late night show hosts, is what I thought I got from the thing. But look at the movie poster. But I didn’t look at the movie poster. Well, when you- Oh, wow. That’s a horror movie, bro. It’s a guy with like- That’s a very cool movie poster. It’s a guy in a suit, but his head is just a flame. That’s scary. This looks good, man. So then Daniel said, “Well, you know, when I texted you and Rhett, asking you to go to the movie, I really wanted to see this movie, and I know that Rhett’s really into horror movies. So I was inviting Rhett to the movie, and then I was like, “Well, if I’m gonna invite Rhett, I probably should invite you too.” And then Rhett said he couldn’t go, and you said you could go. And I was like, “Okay.”” So I’m like, “Well, damn, how scary is this movie gonna be?” You can take it. Turns out it was more creepy than it was scary. And it wasn’t like, overly demented. It was actually really cool and creative, the way that this movie is set up. Late Night With The Devil is this late night show host in like, the late ’70s, early ’80s maybe. He’s second fiddle to Johnny Carson, so he never can beat him in the ratings. And it’s sweeps week. This is back then. This is the week that they would measure using Nielsen, like, who watched what. And so everybody gets desperate on sweeps week to get everybody to watch their show. And it happened to be Halloween. So what the producer did was book all of these like scary acts, like a medium. And then the wife of the host is like, a psychologist who has been working with this little girl who’s possessed by a demon. Yes. And they kept teasing they’re gonna- It’s the best person to be possessed is a little girl. So then, what happens with the movie very early on is they set this whole premise, and then the voiceover comes on and says, “The following is what aired that night, plus behind the scenes footage during commercial breaks.” That’s wonderful. And then the movie became the actual television show, like in real time, the late night show. And whenever the late night show would cut to a commercial, it would then be behind the scenes footage of what’s going on. And so all of this like, super creepy stuff started happening. The medium is channeling some devious and scary things. And then they go to break. And it’s so funny how like the host and the producer were like so fixated on making a good show that they weren’t getting freaked out by it. And the medium started vomiting blood and they’re like, “We’re gonna cut to commercial.” But it was like super creative how it was all presented, and it got increasingly creepy, but never to the point where it made me wanna run out of the theater, or crap my pants or anything. I actually thought they could have pushed it a little bit further. So, I basically survived. And you recommend it? I did. I recommend it. As a rental. I don’t think it’s in theaters anymore. Okay. All right. Technically, I was invited out of like, pity. “Well, if I’m gonna invite Rhett, I need to invite Link too.” I appreciate the fact that Daniel did that, but- Do you think he’ll invite you next time? I mean, you did go. I was out. I was outta town. It worked out. It worked out. Another thing I did. You’ve never been blindsided by a movie like that? First of all. Because that’s really what you want. No expectations. I’ve definitely gone into movies that I had no idea what they were, and somebody was just like, “This is a good movie.” That’s the best. Because I like horror movies, which would be the only like, curve ball that would be like. I saw that. I didn’t know anything about that Zone Of Interest. Okay. So you didn’t know that it was about- All I heard was something about the family- Families- Nazi Germany. Like I knew it was historical- Adjacent to concentration camp. Didn’t know anything about that. And so, you know, you kind of have to. Because I knew it was like Holocaust related, you’re like, “Okay, this is gonna be,”- You gotta be prepared. “This is gonna be emotionally heavy.” But I didn’t have any idea about like, the way that they did it or whatever. It’s just somebody heavily recommended it. But going into- but I kind of knew it was gonna be heavy. And there was that. If I hadn’t figured out with the trailers or with Get Out, Christie hadn’t have figured out with the trailers. That would’ve been a great experience. I knew nothing about Get Out other than the fact that it was a Jordan Peele horror movie. Horror movie, though. Yeah. But like, I didn’t know. But if you didn’t know you were gonna get scared, it’s- I didn’t know- The wheels are turning on another level- There was a twist, you know what I’m saying? I didn’t know, “Oh, there’s a twist.” You can kind of imagine that there’s always gonna be a twist. Yeah, you don’t want people to tell you there’s a twist. When somebody tells you. I know you keep getting on me. I think any information about a movie is a spoiler. But like, you would have to agree- Twist is a spoiler. Someone telling you there’s a twist. “But the twist.” No, that is a spoiler. No, no. What I’m saying is that there have been times in which somebody just saying the setting of the movie, like, “It takes place in the 16.” “No, don’t tell me anything about this movie.” I’m saying setting, and then maybe like- Genre. Setting and genre are not spoilers- I do think I wanna know the genre. And then I think that premise that isn’t plot. That’s a gray area. If it’s anything that- “It’s a couple that goes camping together and things go haywire,” or whatever, that’s not a story. Oh, things go haywire? Thanks. Well, you think it’s gonna be just a story about just a couple camping and having a great time. You know that something’s gonna go wrong. That’s a YouTube genre. You know that something’s gonna go wrong. But how’s it gonna go wrong? Can we settle it, here and now? Where is the line for a spoiler? I will propose that it is any information, a detail of the movie that happens, definitely after act one. I don’t wanna know anything- Oh, sure. That happens after act one. Unless it’s like, “Well, in act three, a blue car will be seen.” That’s a detail that’s incidental. But, there’s a cameo from, I don’t know, somebody. There’s a cameo from somebody. If it’s not in act one, I don’t want to know it. I think that’s a spoiler, because now I’m just waiting. “They said there was a cameo from Nick Cage. When is that gonna come in?” Oh, okay. I can see that being a problem. I think you’re talking about two different things though. The complete ignorance going into a movie is a pristine experience. So I agree with that. The less you can know about a movie, the better. But because there’s that middle ground of like, “Well, I’m trying to convince somebody to watch this movie. I have to say something to get them to get them.” I would say- I say, “Tell me if it’s good or not.” You can use stars. I don’t care. I don’t know. You can use a rating, but don’t tell me anything about the movie. Just tell me- Well, that doesn’t work. That’s not practical. Whether it’s good or not. That’s why I like looking at the Rotten Tomatoes score. Right, right, right, right. ‘Cause it doesn’t tell me anything about the movie, except is it good or not? Well, okay. Okay. If I google, “Late Night With The Devil,” okay, here’s what I see. I see, “2023 horror slash comedy.” So that’s the first thing. The second thing I see is the IMDB and the Rotten Tomatoes and the Metacritic, all on one line. It’s 97% Rotten Tomatoes. But then I see one sentence. “In 1977, a live television broadcast goes horribly wrong, unleashing evil into the nation’s living rooms.” That’s not a spoiler. You can’t say that that’s a spoiler. I mean, you can be technical and say, “I know something about the movie,” but a spoiler is something that spoils the experience of the movie. Like, “That was something that I had,”- Okay. That’s an act one thing. “I had to experience in the movie.” They end up dying or they make their way out of the cave. Those are spoilers. Yes, so do I need a new name for what I’m preserving? Yeah. Information. “I don’t want any information.” You can’t say, “I don’t want spoilers.” “I don’t want information about the movie.” I’m a pristine viewer. Yeah. You wanna be a complete virgin. An information virgin when it comes to this particular movie. You don’t even know the title. You don’t even know what time it starts. You just wanna show up at the movie theater and just be like, point at one of the theaters. and I sit there- Put a blindfold on me- Sit there until it’s ready. Wheel me in. Dump me into a seat. Take my blindfold off after the trailer. But give me a drink that I know what that drink is. Yes. Yes. Tell me everything about that drink. The drink, I need to know. Is it milky? Is it fizzy? What about candy, though? Is it alcoholic? I feel like candy could be a surprise. I don’t do candy. I’m not a candy guy. Maybe you do candy in this scenario. Popcorn? I could do popcorn. The popcorn is either buttered or not buttered, and that’s something for you to figure out. That’s something. And it might be buttered at the bottom. Oh God. How do you do that? Oh, well, just stick around with me. I’ll show you how to butter the bottom of a popcorn. You ask them to do it. No. You go and you ask for the popcorn box. So they give you the popcorn bag, you ask for a box. It’s a bigger, wider box. Oh yeah. And you dump all your popcorn out? Well, if you’re smart, you go and you dump all your popcorn into that and then you butter the whole thing, so it’s flat. It’s like you’re crop dusting, but not in the fart way. And then if you really like the bag experience, you can create- Because it gets- A folded part, and you put it back into the bag. Because you’re making it all cold. You’re creating like, a heat sink for your popcorn. Hot popcorn is something that happens during the trailers. Popcorn is not hot by the time you get to 10 minutes into the movie. It’s not cold. Okay, so you don’t put it back in the bag. You eat it outta the box. Well, usually what I do is one person gets the bag, and one person gets the box and then you share it, so you’re not passing it back and forth. Oh, I gotcha. But if you wanted to, you could take it out of the box, outta the bag, put it in the box. You could butter just the bottom and then you could refill it. And you have a butter surprise at the bottom. Butter Surprise. Problem is I get to the bottom of the popcorn 12 minutes into the movie, ’cause I eat like a horse at all times. That’s not enough elapsed time to forget what you’ve done to the bottom. I went to, where did I go? We were with Stevie. Oh, it’s a premier. And they have popcorn ready. Pre-made. Everybody’s seat. And I just mindlessly eat popcorn like a horse. And then I’m done with it before the movie starts. They’re small bags. I’m looking at Stevie, and she’s doing something that I’ve never thought was possible. She’s eating one piece of popcorn at a time. Like reaching in with her long fingers, grabbing one piece of popcorn and eating it. And like, not immediately going back, not doing what I do, which is like, “How much can I get in my hand? And as long as I get nine outta 10 pieces into my mouth and something’s on my beard, it doesn’t matter. I’ll wipe it off later.” She’s just so clean. Just one at a time. And then I noticed, it looked like there was no progress being made. And the movie starts. 10 minutes go by, she’s got the popcorn. She hasn’t touched it. I’m like, “You gonna finish your popcorn?” And she just hands me the whole bag, and I just horse her bag too. You horsed her bag. I horsed two bags. And that was bad popcorn too. It was horrible. It doesn’t matter. No butter surprise. No taste. Speaking of horsing popcorn, I feel like I need it to be like an oat bag. Yeah. you need a strap. Put it around my ears and just sit there. And I just got candy and drink in the other hand. And I’m just horsing popcorn the whole movie. It might be a distraction. Y’all try some other weird shit at a theater. Like, I took Lando to see Dune Two. Long movie. He got freeze dried strawberries coated in chocolate. Huh? It was in a bag. It was a snack bag. It wasn’t like somebody’s grandma made it. Nobody behind the counter was making this. This just- Okay, yeah. You can get that. They don’t get paid enough to freeze drive strawberries back there. They have healthier things now. They have like Cliff bars and stuff. Cliff Bar? I mean, to get through Dune Two, you might need it. Here’s another thing that I did over your spring break. Me and Christie went, and we’ve done this. This is the second time we’ve done this. This is becoming a thing for us. We got a pedicure together. Oh, you’ve done this in town before? Not like, on vacation? In town. In town. Oh, a town pedi. A local pedicure. I like massage. If I’m gonna do something to treat myself, I’m gonna get a massage. She likes to get a pedicure. So she’s got this place she goes. And I was like, “You know what? I’m gonna go with you.” She was like, “Yeah, let’s go.” You can get the king pedicure. It was fit for a king. Oh, okay. Is that for men only? It’s for men of royalty only. Okay. Do you know what they do in a pedicure place nowadays? I’ve had one. You’ve had one? But on vacation. On vacation. I went with Jesse and I was like- This is a home thing now for me. There’s a massage chair. So you do get a massage. My feet are so sensitive. I just laugh my way through the whole thing. Oh, really? Yeah. My feet are really ticklish. Ticklish. I don’t know, I was just kinda like. I prefer massage. I’m not into this. It’s good to get past that. It’s good to get past it. Sell it to me. Well, one of the things that they did for me was they took a bag. I’m talking just like a run of the mill plastic bag. And it had some sort of blue yogurt in it. It looked like yogurt. And it was hot. It was very hot. Turns out it was wax of some sort. So they put my bare- Not yogurt. Foot into this yogurt-looking. It was like bluish, like it could have been blueberry yogurt. Wax. Put my foot down and, “Ho.” They were like, “Is it too hot?” I was like, “Oh, well my foot’s already in there.” Like, “No, no, no.” And then it hardened, kind of, around my foot. They were making a mold of your foot to make a new you. Yeah, starting with a foot. That’s right. Like, “I know what you’re doing. You’re not molding the rest of my body.” This is after they did like all the trimming- Oh, this is after that. All the clipping and the trimming and that type of stuff. They put just my foot in a hot bag. Hot foot bag, I guess is what it’s called. And then what? It felt good. It felt good. I can see that feeling good. Did you get a clear coat? No, but she buffed my toes. And now, two weeks later, when I take off my socks, my big toe’s just shiny. And I feel- Hold on. I wish I wouldn’t have done that. Hold on. The nail? Oh yeah. Not the whole big toe. Yeah. Yeah. That’s a problem. Just the nail part. My nail is like, glimmering and I’m just like- You don’t like that? I don’t like a shiny big toe. I kind of feel like I might like that. Well, I just sold it to you. I don’t know if they could make mine shiny. That’s the problem. The yogurt didn’t do it? I got some ugly feet, man. You got ugly feet. You need to- Not ugly feet. My nails are better though. But I guess if I got pedicures all the time. I’m starting to like. I just like other people giving me attention. Yeah. Well ,you made that clear. I like that. I like that. And then they had a screensaver on the wall that showed like, exotic locations, drone shots. Again, it’s like you can’t beat a good drone shot. Do they cycle back? Yeah, they cycle back. My dentist does that. My dentist has pictures that he has taken while traveling the world. Oh, I don’t think that the pedicurist took these pictures. Oh, he did, ’cause he- They were drones- In quite a few of them. Oh, so you watch a slideshow of your dentist. He told me this. He’s in some of them. I remember this. He’s quite a photographer. But they do cycle back after a while. But he’s been lots of places. So when we filmed in North Carolina, you stayed a few more days. I went to my mom’s house and then I said, “You know what? I’m gonna fly you and Christie’s mom out here.” But I had a day that I could do what I wanted while I was in Raleigh, and I had the best day ever doing my own thing. I decided I was going. There was a couple of record shops that I’m a fan of in Raleigh. And I was like, “I’m gonna make this a record shopping day.” And checked out of the hotel at noon. And then, I proceeded to go record shopping. Guess how many record shops I went into in an afternoon? Four. Seven. What? That can happen? Raleigh has so many record shops, and they’re close to each other. Like going from one to another- What part of town are you in? Centered around downtown Raleigh. You walked for to all- No, no, no. I didn’t walk. Every one was like a 10 minute drive. Less than 10 minutes to the next one. Sometimes five minutes. I told you Raleigh’s cool, man. I could have gone to nine. I could have gone to 10. I told you, man. But they started closing and I couldn’t do it. And I just had the most amazing day, you know? Taking this DJ stuff to next level, man. I gotta do my shopping. Did you buy some stuff? I was like, “I’m gonna buy something at every place.” That happened for the most part. Happened for the most part. Shout out to Nice Price on Hillsborough Street. Man, I gotta give my shout outs here. Uh-oh. I went to the Vinyl Destination. Shout out to Sound Off Records, owned by a Mythical Beast. They also repair your Hi-Fi equipment. Nice Price Books and Records is right next to the coffee shop on Hillsborough Street that we used to go to get the triple mocha. The Caribou coffee? No. The triple mocha down there- Oh. Cup of Joe. Cup of Joe. Shout out to Hunky Dory. I went in there. You can also get a beer there. You go, you get yourself a beer, and you search for the records. You get so much beer in Raleigh. Oh God, there’s so much beer. I wish I liked it more. There’s just so many breweries. Beer and Vinyl. That was great. Also, the Pour House. You know, like the venue downtown? Great music venue. Like the music venue. The upstairs is now just a record shop. And when you’re sorting through the records, they have these like, flip down cup holders where you can put your beer. I’ve been- You buy beer and you just shop for records. Now listen, do you believe me now? I’ve been telling you about how cool Raleigh is. This has done it for me. And how much it’s changed since we were in school there. Yes. The food, the nightlife. Apparently record shops. I’m just telling you, man. My favorite record shop- I’m spending a lot more time there. If I have to go to one, my favorite record shop is Sorry State Records. So shout out to my boys at Sorry State. And the thing that I was always hoping would happen finally happened. You’re looking through the crates, and you find something that you kind of had in your mind that you knew about, but you knew it was in very limited supply, and you didn’t think you would ever be able to get it. And you find it. What was that? I’m really into a hip hop producer called The Alchemist. He’s my favorite. And there was this used record from The Alchemist, Currency in The Alchemist. And I’m like, “Oh, this is great. I’m gonna get this.” And then when I took it up there, along with like four other records that I bought at the same time, the guy at Sorry State, the guy who brought this record in and sold it to me. “Also, if you look behind this thing over here,” he had it hidden. He was like, “You’ll find another one that he brought in.” And I got this one out and it was the Alchemist Sandwich. And I was like, “Oh, this is hard to find. I’ve been hoping to a record like this.” Now, it costs $100. What in the world? It was $100 record, but it’s super cool. I got it in there. I’ll show it to you. But it’s- Is this modern day? Yes. This came out in 2022 actually. But there was only 200 of these made. And I’m just in a record shop in my home state of North Carolina. And some collector had bought it. It was sealed, unopened. And on his website, by the way, on the Alchemist website where he sells all of his records, he sells it for $100 there. So it wasn’t like it was a big price hike. It was very fair, but it’s a collector’s item. And it was just such a thrill to be like, that was like the next to last place I went, and I’m like, “Yes, this is why I’m the crate digger, man.” But what did you eat that day? Because that’s what I’m interested in. Oh. I ate at the chicken shop. Ashley Christiansen place? Yes, I ate at Beasley’s. Yeah. Yeah. Chicken and Honey. Honey and- Chicken and honey. Whatever it is. I ate at that and it was great. I mean, some places you can get like a fried chicken and it’s like really good. But there’s something about the Beasley’s fried chicken and honey that the fried chicken tastes so specifically homemade. Oh, I gotta go, man. It’s like you can taste chicken. Like, you don’t just taste the special breading that they put on it, which is great. And the way that they fry it is like grandma fried it. Like, grandma grabbed the chicken, wrung its neck, plucked all the feather. I’m sorry to get graphic here, but there’s a certain freshness to their chicken that feels like grandma fried it up. I think to the point that some people might not like it, because it’s so authentic. Too chicken-y. It’s too chicken a fried chicken. And they had amazing biscuits. They had a pimento mac and cheese. Oh, man. Slab. It was just like a slab. There’s so much good food- And they have- So much of it has like- And they have beets. A southern- “I gotta order the beets.” I don’t know, I just like beets. When you eat a lot of fried food, you need something to cut it, like a pickle or some good beets. But then, I went home to mom and like we had to get up at what was the equivalent of like 2:00 AM Pacific time. You know, it was like tough. To get on that first flight. I went and I picked up Miss Mitzi, Christie’s mom. Wait, this is a big event. Christie’s mom. Yes, because Christie’s mom, 72 years old. Never been on a plane, never flown anywhere, ever. And how would she character it? Because some people are like, “I’m afraid to fly.” How would she characterize why? Just didn’t have a need to go anywhere. But also, didn’t have an appetite for it. I think it wasn’t an exciting prospect to her. Okay. She had a chill pill, like a little anxiety pill if she needed it. But she didn’t have flight anxiety, the way that Christie does. And of course, hearing Christie talk about her flight anxiety, and Christie’s sister’s the same way. It was like, “No wonder you never want to get on a plane.” So, put a pin in that. I’ll tell you like what I told her about that afterward. But like, “I just gotta kick it.” I like put the two of them together and then I’m on the other side of the aisle and I’m like, “I’ll probably be asleep. If you need me, just throw something at me or just holler, and I’ll be there for you.” This is the first time she’s ever been on a plane. I didn’t you like, document it? I took footage. I mean, she doesn’t want me posting all her footage. Okay, okay. But yes, I was taking pictures of granny and grandma, Thelma and Louise, like rolling through the airport, checking in. Was she like amazed? I mean, she kept her cool, but the thing that I noticed when we started to take off, I’m filming her, ’cause I like, I wanted to show it to, you know, her daughters and to the family. She had the window, she had the shade pulled down. I was like, “Pull the shade up and look out the window.” And she was like, she didn’t wanna look out the window. She didn’t wanna know what was happening. And I was like, “Pull up the window.” And I made her pull up the window and then she watched in amazement as in her own words, “It just took off.” That’s what they do. The plane just kind of took off, she said. And then she’s looking down and she turns and she says, the first thing that you say. I think this is the first thing that everybody thinks. It’s been so long since I’ve been on a plane, I’ve forgotten. She turned and she said, “It’s like a bunch of ants.” Right? First time you’re on a plane, you’re like, you’re looking down and you’re like, “I didn’t realize we’d be this high up. Everything is just ants.” She thought you’d be crop dusting the whole time. Yeah. Not in the fart sense. Yeah. And what is your mom doing at this point? Kind of staring straight ahead, and seeming a little anxious in her own right. Because she hasn’t flown a lot. She doesn’t fly a lot. And then my mom was like, “Well, that was the smoothest flight, Mitzi, because the good Lord knew that you needed a good first flight. And that’s what he gave you.” He doesn’t give that to Christie very often. No. She always gets the bad ones. Yes, so Mitzi, she was like, “The only time it got bumpy was when we were taxiing to get off of the plane.” There was some bumps on the tarmac. And what about coming back? Was she just a pro at that point? Well, she’s still at my house. Oh, that’s right. She ain’t left. Yeah, she’s still there. She’s still there. But she said, “If it was bad, I might not leave. I might be stuck with me forever.” So I love her, but I’m glad it worked out. Put her on a train. We could put her on something. I’d figure out something- We’ll get her back. To send them both back. I said, “Now, I’m just telling you, what you’re describing is your normal. You got on a plane, you went up in the air and you came down in another place.” And I’m saying this, course, in front of Christie to give her a hard time. And I’m like, “Mitzi, you are the normal one here. You just got on a plane and you went somewhere. The people who get on a plane and they freak out all the time. You know, hey, it happens, and I understand it. But that’s the abnormal thing.” I think because everybody she had talked to was like, “Oh my God. Flying is so bad.” I think that she was at this point where she’s like, “I’m never gonna do that.” Ah, yeah. I was like, “Well, listen, this is normal. What happened is normal.” So now maybe she’ll hit some turbulence, she won’t even think about it, because it’s just part of it. It’s all part of it. You know? You don’t have to be afraid of it. It’s helpful not to be. I think she’s gonna be okay. She might just start jet setting all around. Is that why they call it jet setting? I don’t really know. Me either. But then we get into the house, and like now it’s 10 degrees warmer in our house for them. You get two grannies in your house, you got to make it 10 degrees warmer. Well, that’s interesting, ’cause a lot of times they like it to be cold. These grandmas like it warmer. What is the temperature right now? Well, this morning Christie was like, “I think they may not have slept, because the downstairs thermostat was set to 62. It reverted back. Are they gonna be ice blocks?” Because it was cold as hell. I woke up this morning- 40 degrees this morning. It was 40 degrees. But my mom got up and she was like, “Well.” That’s not cold as hell. I understand. “I did okay.” Some of you live in actual wintry places, but we don’t. My mom said, “I did okay, ’cause I used that blanket I got from Delta and I wrapped it around my feet.” Because we were on the plane, and she had that little Delta blanket, and she’s wrapped up in that thing on the plane, and just scrouched up in it. You wanna be cold when you sleep, though. I do. When I’m getting off- Everyone does. I’m getting off the plane and mom’s like, “I’m taking this blanket. I took the last one with the flight I was on, and I wrap my feet up in it every night, ’cause I don’t like to wear socks, but I like to have a blanket wrapped around my feet.” And I’m like, “Well mom, you can’t take the blanket.” I think you can. They wash the blanket. And she said, “No, they throw them away.” I was like, “You don’t know that they throw them away. You just want the blanket.” So you’re making up a story that they throw away the blanket. I know good and well, they don’t throw away the blankets. They don’t throw away the blanket. But you can take them if you want to. They’re not gonna say anything to her. They didn’t say anything to her, but she took that blanket. She was like, “Well, I’m gonna bring it on the next time.” I was like, “Well, touche.” And then they’ll give her another one wrapped up in plastic. She’ll probably keep that one too. But I’ve been thinking about, because you sleep much better when it’s cold. ‘Cause your body needs to go down in temperature. Yeah. We like it. And so that’s not just a personal preference. 60, 62. That’s a human preference. Like, I’m not saying exact temperature- But I do bundle up. No, I’m saying being in a cold environment and having a blanket to keep you warm, but having like, the exterior of the room be colder, it’s just scientifically proven you sleep better. You know how like, sometimes, you’re like, “Oh, it’s too hot in here,” and you can’t sleep. That just means you’re a normal person. Okay. But that’s why they make these things. In fact, we need to get one of them to sponsor us, because I wanna try it. There’s a couple of companies that do this thing. Of course the sleep number bit is temperature controlled, but there’s just a mattress topper that hooks up to this thing, and it gets cold so your bed gets cold, but then you bundle up and you stay warm. But I don’t want the surface that I’m sleeping on, the mattress to be cold. It won’t be too cold. It won’t be too cold. We need to try it. We need to try it. And the thing you can do is if you do that, because I mean you’re talking about, while it’s getting colder outside, you’ve got it on 62. I’ve got on 55. My bedroom can get down to 55 degrees. It never does. But if I’ve woken up and it’s been 58, 59 degrees in the house and I’ve just slept like a baby, ’cause I’m under this blanket. But during the- When you get up. Woo. But during the summer. Yeah, you might need a refrigerated- You don’t want to put- Mattress topper. Your temperature down on 65 degrees, 64 degrees. While it’s hot outside, it’s just you’re using so much energy. Get that a little cold thing. I don’t know how it works, but we should try it. We got lots of things to try. You know? I’ve recommended all types of things. Record shopping, wringing chickens’ necks. You can’t recommend that. Pedicures. I can say you did not- What else did I talk about? Wringing chickens’ necks. Getting warned about beverages and knowing nothing about movies. I feel like I’ve really contributed this week. So you don’t have an official rec. You have all those recs. Okay. All right. Yeah. Late Night With The Devil, I guess. But we kind of spoiled pretty much all of it. Or I gave too much information. Well here, does it make you feel better that I still want to see it? No. I still wanna see it. Okay. Give us a call. Let us know what you think about any of these things. I still wanna watch Three Body Problem, even though I read the book. I know you do. 1888- EARPOD1. Talk at you next week. Hey, Rhett and Link. This is Madison from Bakersfield, California. I just watched the episode where Link talked about his family trip to Yosemite National Park. I was a park ranger in Yosemite last summer, and I just wanted to let everyone know you were not exaggerating about the John Muir Trail route up to Nevada Falls. That trail has for sure ended marriages. It definitely almost killed me when I hiked it. Okay. Love you guys.