Welcome to Good Mythical More. Our crew has been surveyed. Many of them are of dating age. Dating age. We’ve grown out of it. We’ve grown out of that by getting married many years ago. We don’t know anything about dating, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have opinions. Oh, yeah. We’ll see if they’re right or not. According to our crew. Let’s donate $1,000 to the National Immigration Law Center to aid in their mission to defend and advance the rights and opportunities of low income immigrants and their family members. Please join us in giving at nilc.org/donate Okay. Okay. So, you’re going to ask us what we think and then you’re going to tell us what they think? Yes. Okay. That is right. All right, all right. On a first date, at a restaurant, should one person pay, or should the bill be split? On a first date? On a first date. Times is a changing. They are because, I mean, I’m like, well, the person who asked, who initiated the date, I think is in charge of paying. If you’re invited, you’re a guest. And you’re, you’re getting off scot free. That’s, that’s my first thing, but you’re saying that’s not how it is these days. Of course, we’re, we also, we’re too old for energy drinks. Remember that. Well, I think the thing to do these days is to split the bill. I think that that is, and I’m thinking, I’m thinking about like our, our crew. I think, I’m thinking about Mythical crew here. I’m thinking like they’re, they’re a bill splitting species. Is it species? Species. They’re a bill splitting species. Is it because like paying for somebody is like chauvinistic or something? Well, Link, you want to open up that can of worms? Well, what is the reason? I mean, when you, I just said, if you invite somebody to do something, you’re on the hook for it. Well, Link, traditionally, you know, women were held out of the workforce, right? And actually, if you go back many, many years, women were actually seen as property. And then times changed, and they were no longer seen as property. But they were still seen even, the the act of the father giving away the daughter at a wedding comes from the tradition of him literally giving her away because she was his property then given to the husband who she then became his property. So, we have a history of patriarchy, right? And then we still live in a pretty patriarchal society, right? That gap is still being closed, but then for a for a long period of time, it was, the man was expected to be the one that was the resource winner, right? Which is based on long tradition, some biological things, some cultural things. It’s a big mishmash of things and anthropologists have been studying it for many decades. Okay. And what that led to is there was an expectation that the man was the one that had the money, right? And he was trying to impress the lady with his resources. And so there was absolutely no expectation that she would ever pay for anything. And so it just kind of became this tradition that, in some circles of the internet, or corners of the internet, is kind of being revived somewhat at this point, right? There’s people really, just desperately holding on to traditional ideas. Oh. And so, I don’t know how many of the people here on the crew are holding on to those ideas. I’m just, and I didn’t say the man pays for the person, the date. I said the inviter. I know, you took a different perspective. See, there you go. Well, because gay people exist. Because gay, because of gays. Yes, yes. But also because. What are you gonna do when you got two men? Yeah, yeah. They definitely have to split the bill. Even if, but. Two women? Who’s gonna pay for it? Who’s gonna pay? Who pays when two lesbians have a date, Stevie? That’s what I’ve been saying this whole time! The one who initiates. That’s what I’m saying. If a woman initiates a date with a man. I agree with you, Link. I agree. I, but I also think that there’s some circumstances in the age of like dating app situation where like, it’s like, did you really invite someone or is it just a awkward texting conversation? And you don’t really know the person, but if you like, you know, traditionally ask someone. I agree with your logic. And I think I agree with your logic. If you invite somebody on a date, you should pay for it. But I think that the way this question was presented probably was just like is it better to split the bill or have one person pay for it? And so I think that y’all said split the bill. 56% of the crew said they’d split the bill. Whoa, 56%? It’s close, so it’s obviously a debate. Wow, interesting. I also feel like I don’t know why I’m talking as someone who’s been in a relationship for 13 years, but if there’s a multi part date I would think that like it’s like a little back and forth. It’s like, I’ll get this one. Yeah, I agree with that people, yeah. I’ll get these tickets for this thing, yeah. Cause splitting, splitting the bill isn’t very sexy. Is it? – It’s just. – Yeah, it’s not. It’s just like it’s easy to just be like one credit card goes down and that’s the only thing that happens You know what I’m saying? It seems, like, when I go out with friends, it’s like, oh, you know, we’re gonna split this thing. Or I’ll get it this time. Like, those are the two things that happen. But then it seems to relegate, it brings that same experience into dating, and then it feels like, this is not, there’s nothing romantic here. It’s what I start to associate it with, when somebody’s not willing to pay. Somebody’s not willing to. Hey, you know? Yeah. For a first date, which we are in first date territory Which do you prefer? nighttime drinks, daytime coffee shop, sit down dinner, some kind of activity. For a first date, Like, I understand, like a little coffee date for first, that, to me that’s like a pre first date. I don’t call that a, like a coffee date, even though it has the word date in it, I don’t think of it as a date. Well we know what Emily thinks. Emily. She said it was an interview. Yeah. Yeah, it’s an interview. And I actually think that that’s how people use the coffee date now. Is like, alright, there’s a coffee shop five minutes from my house, I’m gonna go see if this person’s worth my time. And so, I don’t, I think that that may have been a popular answer seven years ago. People are now like, hey listen, if you’re gonna take the time to spend time with me, we’re gonna either do something or eat something. But. But drinks was also an option. Well, I’ve heard about dinner for a first date is that it’s too much of a commitment. Yeah, if it’s not going well. Yeah. And you can’t, you can’t, the timing is set based on, like, the service. Like, you’re not, you have no control over, and you don’t have an exit strategy. That’s a great point. You can’t accelerate it without it being really awkward. You’re kind of trapped. Drinks! And an activity. You’re, you’re, depending on the activity, you’re still a bit trapped. Hot air balloon, especially. Drinks. You know what I’m saying? You’re not getting away from a hot air balloon. I like you, but I have a place to be! Never do a hot air balloon as a first date because that’s the thing, that’s where you get engaged. Right? You don’t do that as a first date. Never do a hot air balloon. Oh, really? I mean, I’ve never done one. I kind of like the idea. Drinks. Did you, what did you say Link? Drinks? I said drinks too. I agree, drinks, but 40% of the crew prefers some kind of activity. Some kind of activity. Yeah, you don’t have to look at each other the whole time. You can look at an activity that you’re doing. Like, like, if you’re hiking, you’re both looking at something else. What kind of activities do people do these days? Yeah, what’s an activity date y’all? Frisbee? Frisbee. Frisk me. You go bowling for real on a first date? Bowling, huh? Bowling is a good one. Mikayla specifically goes bowling . And that’s what I did. That’s what Christy and I did. And then we went, we went for coffee, we went for bowling, and then we went, no, we went for dinner. You went for bowling and then coffee and then bowling again? Yeah, it was a bowl, it was a bookend. Hey, remember bowling? Let’s do that again sometime. Like, tonight sometime. No, we went to Chili’s. Then we went bowling, and then we walked to a coffee shop. Late night coffee shops was a thing in North Carolina. That doesn’t happen in la. I don’t understand why y’all don’t do that here. Well, yeah, guess. All the coffee shops close here. – Yeah. – They all close here. Yeah. In the south, it’s like you go to a coffee shop at night, that’s what you do, and you get a decaf. Come on, y’all. Foraging, that’s a good activity. Cause then you’re both looking for truffles. That’s when neither one of you want to pay for anything. Truffle foraging. We’re gonna make a salad at the end of the evening. Hey, if you’re into that and you find someone that’s into it, I think you’ve found the person that you need to sit with. You know? How many people could you handle dating at once, assuming you have no conversations about being exclusive with someone. Okay, alright. Paging Andrew Huberman. Come on. Why? What’s the, what’s the context behind that? Is it inappropriate? No, there’s just a big, there was a big expose dating six women at the same time. Oh. In the past. In the past. Well, I don’t know anything. In a pretty recent past. Why am I, why am I saying this? I just said paging. That’s all I said. It was really a pager joke. How many people can you date when you’re, when you haven’t, when you’re not? No conversations about exclusivity. How many people can you date? Yeah, you’re just casually dating people. Limitless. I think as many as you can fit on the schedule. Yeah. There’s no conversations about exclusivity? Like, it’s a, it’s really a logistical question. No, I mean like, but in terms of like what you could handle. Like, and, and. Oh, what I can, what I can handle? Not more than one. What most people could handle, and I, and like, this is a not like a one and done date situation, I’m guessing. Cause you’re dating them at the same time. Okay, well. Multiple dates with multiple people. Two is a problem, because two is like an either or, it’s too binary. It’s more just like, is it this person or this person? So I think three mixes it up a little bit. Three is a minimum. Three is a minimum, but I think three is also the maximum. Maybe you could do four. That’s one, one a week for a month before you rotate back. You know, I’m a systems guy. You’re going to see someone once a month? Well, there’s other days in the week, I guess. So, yeah, if I’m, and hey, yeah, I’m going to see you once a week. I’m going to see you once a month. Once a month. Unless I start feeling otherwise, or, you know, and then I, if I find myself, I can’t go the month. Well, that tells me something. Exactly. And then I, who am I going to cut out? Yeah, somebody’s got to get cut out. Because my other six nights of the week are like, foraging. Yeah. Yeah. and foraging sometime goes into the next day, Right. If you haven’t got enough for a salad, sometimes it gets into like 1, 2 AM. Yeah. Or if you get lost. It has happened to me. You move from one fern to twig to the next, and then all of a sudden you’re on the other side of the reservoir. Just stay right next to the LA river bank. While you’re foraging. So we, Rhett’s saying three, I’m saying four. What do you say, Stevie? Three to four. Ooh, I’m going back to that time period in my life. Yeah, right. First of all. It wasn’t the best me. I have never. How many people did you date at the same time? I’m interested to know, at your peak. I mean peak, I mean, just like the number, the peak number of people. The highest point of people dating at once. Multiple dates. Well, see, and then the term date gets weird. Somebody that you would go on a date with, but then you did more than one date with. I think just three. See? There you go. Three. That’s the answer. I’ve never dated more than one person at once. I was talking to two girls at once. But I wasn’t dating them. Not for lack of trying. Oh, I had. The girl that I was dating made it very clear that, we should also date other people. And then as soon as I started dating other people, she was like, not those people. Yeah, yeah, not those people. I was like, no backsies. Bye. Right. 80% of the crew can handle dating one to two people. Are you disappointed? Are we working you too hard? What? Come on. Y’all gotta date. Y’all gotta date people. I mean, listen, one day, you’re gonna be, you’re gonna be locked down. You’re going to be in a relationship forever. And you’re going to think back to that time when you could have dated three, four, five infinite number of people at once, and you could forage whenever you wanted. Yep. You know, you sow your oats. But I think maybe the reason for this answer, one to two, is just, maybe it’s just hard to find three people that you actually want to date, right? Is that, I think that’s the, that’s the limiting factor. It’s not your time. Don’t be so choosy. It’s that you’re just like, I can’t find three people I’m interested in enough to date. Is that it? Well, if you’re a straight woman, probably Straight women are. Yeah. They’re, they’re really falling. They’re falling behind. Yeah. . Yeah. They’re becoming a rare breed. I wanna make clear, there was a lot of laughs from straight women back here. Yeah, yeah. There’s a lot of, there’s a lot of men out there that are not worth it. Worth a dookie. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah. That’s true, probably. Do you expect to be picked up for a date? Well, if it’s gone real, real well, maybe. You know. And she’s big enough. That’s a big woman that can pick me up. I’d like to see the woman that can pick me up. Yeah, I know. We’ve had many women wrestlers on this show, and none of them can pick you up, I don’t think. She carries me away at the end of the night, under her arm. Say that again. Yeah, I mean, I tend to think of a date when you’re like, somebody goes to the person, they meet up and they go together. But if you meet up at the place, that’s not quite Well, think about though, we’re in LA, the majority of our crew is, you know, on the younger side. Yeah, okay. I’m just saying. This isn’t Harnett County in the 80s. Everybody meets, they just meet at a place. Everyone, I mean, and people Uber. Dating is so noncommittal these days. It’s like, well, how many children do we want? It’s. You know, it’s like, it was so. You’re talking about that on the first? When we were dating, it was like, it’s so intense. It was like, there was a, what’s the word? There was a. Expectation? There was an urgency to it. Oh yeah, there was. Well, I guess not. Is the expectation to be picked up? I guess not. No. Is that the question? You can meet, you can meet at the place, I guess, and. No. You are Ubering and you know so many forms of transportation these days. 78% said no. Yeah. 88%. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Because the car ride to get there, you want to avoid that anyway. Yeah, exactly. You don’t wanna drive. Okay, I understand now. I’ll meet you there. Yeah. Oh. When is the right time to bring up what you’re looking for? Oh, in terms of like just something casual, a serious relationship. Like how many kids? When foraging, you should know what you’re looking for right from the beginning. Cause if you both looking for different kinds of salads, it gets real confusing real fast. Right. I’m looking for poppy seeds. You know, you gotta know where the poppies come from. A lot of conflict. First date, second date, third date, fourth or later. So like, what is this? What is this? We would call this DTR in the little circle that we were in growing up. Define the relationship. It was very important. You had to define the relationship. You don’t want to lead anybody on. I think it’s good to communicate things like that, like. – I think it is, but when. – How am I looking at this? I did that with Jessie early on and she was kind of mad at me. Well, it seemed a little robotic the way we did it. Yeah, it was very, it was almost culty. But like at a certain point, you need to talk about like, what are you, not only what are your feelings, but like, what are your intentions? And what are you, you know, like the exclusivity thing. Is that, that’s a good example, right? This is more, not, not what are your feelings for this person. More like, what are you looking for? Oh. Like, I am looking to get into a serious relationship. Or I just want to keep this casual. – Oh. – Okay. Well, isn’t, isn’t that on the, the dating profile? Or your like, email closer? I mean. Yeah, that’s in the signature. It’s in your signature line. It’s on your LinkedIn. Everybody knows that before you start, because everybody’s doing the apps. Well, do apps say that kind of thing? Yeah. Sometimes. What you’re looking for? But also people, I would guess write different things on the, their profiles versus like what they mean in real life. Looking for whatevs. I think first date, that’s what, that’s how I would do it. Don’t wanna waste anybody’s timing. I think. Especially my own, I think. Here’s my logic. First date, you don’t want to bring that in because you’re just trying to get to know the person without any expectations. Second date. And you may change your mind. You might change your mind. Second date is like a, did I like this person or was I just having like a good brain day or something? You know what I’m saying? Like I just thought things were good. Good brain day. And then third date is when you’re like, okay, we have to have a conversation. Third date. 40% of the crew thinks that bringing up your dating intentions is best on the first date. But it was, it’s just 40%, so it’s a little bit all over the place. Davin was, he was nodding his head at me. He, he, third date. That’s when he talks about his expectations. Rhett likes, likes the idea of playing games. The first date, like, I just think it just can kind of like. Just for the fun? It can be a buzz kill to like start talking about that stuff. It’s just like, keep it a little mysterious, have a good time. Bowl a couple of strikes. Don’t be too romantic. Throw one in the gutter. Robotic. Throw one in the gutter on purpose. You don’t want her to think you’re perfect. Rep your favorite game with the new International Darts League hoodie and T-shirt available now at mythical.com