EB 43: Devin Super Tramp: How I Got Here (Aug 2014)

[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m Linc and I’m Rhett it’s time for another conversation with someone interesting from the internet and that person this week is Devin Graham known on the youtubes as Devin Supertramp I think this guy’s the best outdoor action adventure filmmaker on YouTube currently he’s got over 2 million subscribers if you haven’t seen his videos he’s basically filming people doing insane physical stunts in beautiful locations around the world and the videos are intoxicating and they make me feel good the videos are intoxicating yeah I mean the camerawork is amazing it’s the amount of creativity that goes into these things he’s basically everyone’s get a guaranteed feel-good viral video unless you just don’t like fun and you don’t like start physical stuff in amazingness now we caught up with Devin at VidCon we did exchanged some emails with him about maybe collaborating on something that didn’t involve us risking our lives but at least this is a step towards that meeting in person at VidCon recording this year biscuit just to give you some context his most popular video with over 37 million views is titled Assassin’s Creed meets parkour in real life now we’d play a clip for you but it wouldn’t do much you could be some residual music and sound effects which I mean we could make those with our mouths but that would be disappointing also because it wouldn’t actually be from the video yes I mean it’s a parkour dude dressed as the dude from Assassin’s Creed doing his thing around the city and in costume and it’s just shot in an amazing way I mean you you’ve probably seen yeah a lot of his videos and what his channel you’ll just be overwhelmed yeah he’s one of those guys who when you ask somebody if they’ve watched YouTube videos they end up not realizing that they’ve seen one like the human slingshot or the world’s largest rope swing a slip and slide off of a cliff trike drifting flyboarding I mean all these amazing physical things done in these amazing locations a lot of good-looking people in the video we actually talked to him about that where did you find all these good-looking people that he puts in his videos but you’ve you’ve probably seen one even if didn’t know it because he doesn’t he’s not the face of his videos you have to kind of go to the behind the scenes to see who he is right not only are the videos amazing I think what we discovered in our conversation was that those videos and the product that he creates has gotten Deven into some amazing situations some interesting relationships so we talked about those I would say we surface one of the most surprising backstories that I didn’t didn’t see coming in the history of ear biscuits I mean we do some research but sometimes we kind of know some things we want people to talk about but when he started talking about meeting kim.com in New Zealand I was like I’m so glad this is happening and you know I don’t want to give away the whole story but if you haven’t heard because well you’ll hear it in just a few seconds but if you haven’t heard of kim.com I learned about him I’d heard about him but there was a whole wired article about I got a super-rich founder of file sharing service mega upload there’s I’ll read this little clip from Wikipedia about him Kim calm face US charges of costing the entertainment industry five hundred million dollars through pirated content uploaded to mega upload his site which had 150 million registered users he’s vigorously denied the charges and his attempt fighting the attempt to extradite him to the United States but in January 2012 Kim dot-coms mansion kind of like a compound was raided and it involves 76 officers and two helicopters and this is what was detailed in the wired article but the thing that I didn’t know was that Devin Supertramp was almost there for it that’s crazy so you’ll find out exactly why he was almost there for it and his adventures with Kim comm and also somebody else that might have tagged along that we have interviewed before we’re gonna find out about his relationship with one Lindsey Stirling yeah he helped connect a few dots that were established but not connected in our conversation with Lindsey yes yeah that’s another interesting point to listen out for in general as you would expect from a guy who makes some of the most funniest videos on the Internet’s funnest we had the most funnest ear biscuit conversation with him sure it is our ear biscuit with deficit betrayal [Music] there’s the phenomenon in general watching YouTube videos and you get sucked into the YouTube cauldron or I don’t know what people call it different things but just getting sucked into the the YouTube loophole what do people call it warp so I don’t know what they call it but my point is when I watched the latest Devin Supertramp Channel video and then it’s I’m sucked into an endless cycle of rewatching other ones and oh I’ve seen this one but I gotta watch it again especially if I’m a little blue right like a little down mean like you’re talking about inappropriate things no meaning if I’m a little sad or depressed nothing like one of your videos to make me feel happy and scared at the same time that’s what we do best we’re all about it is that so that’s the weird thing is that is that the intention to what what feeling do you want people to have I think for us like originally when we started the channel I was I mean essentially was me with a camera going out having fun with my friends we saw another YouTube video people hitting a bike jump like a pond like getting a jump going into the pond splashing and we notice it had two million views and it was shot with an iPhone so we’re like what if I went in there and did something a little bit more professional see what happens show the world something that not a whole lot of people had seen put that on YouTube and then it kind of exploded and took off so for us everything you had like a red camera no like a glidecam we had a glidecam and a Canon t2i and a canon 5d mark ii that i borrowed from a friend we didn’t even own any of our own camera equipment at the time so we’re just borrowing it from friends cuz we were going to I was gonna film school so I mean I was just going out hanging out with my friends and they’re like let’s just capture this we’ve seen a lot of YouTube videos we saw what other people were doing so we’re like let’s see what we can do and then we posted that video and the where was the pond I mean you had to get a pond what you want is you know you had to get a ramp you had to get guys who could ride a bike and then how many feet we said 40 feet because it sounded crazy but it’s probably realistically 20 30 feet but really the way it came about is the pond wasn’t too far from my house was like a 20 minute drive we saw the video we knew where it was so we did a post on Facebook just our personal Facebook page because that’s all that existed saying hey we’re doing this video can anyone any BMX bikers out there that can hit this do any tricks and then we said the time the location and then we had maybe 8 or 10 people that actually joined us and then we spent the whole day filming it so you didn’t know any of the bikers that went off of your jump personally until they showed up exactly so it’s all through social media from the get-go and it was like I didn’t have a falling or anything was just essentially my friends and they got their friends to come join and then we spent the whole day and then after we spend that day I looked at the footage I’m like this is really cool let’s do this even better so then we actually spent three days shooting that video to make it the best it could be and then we released it and then you watch that you watch the dailies the first day but I got to come back two more days two more days it was like I wanted to get it perfect it was a little bit cloudy that day I’m like I want to be a summer buy video so I rescheduled it we shot two more days and it was just me and another friend who was going to film school that shot that video together we did that video and then I put it up on YouTube and then the first day got a thousand views which I never had a video that got a thousand views before I was like so excited about it and then the next day jumped up to eighty thousand views and I just remember thinking holy cow like what’s going on here and then all these companies started contacting us flip camera which existed that time it’s out of business now they contacted me was four days later they’re like we just saw this video we want to hire you to do a nationwide TV commercial with our flip cameras with the same concept so all of a sudden I got these huge job offers from this YouTube video do that I did do that and then it ended up on TV so for me was like Olsen I saw this huge potential I was going to film school at the time I was three years into it about to graduate and then I saw all that happened so I actually dropped out of film school to pursue YouTube full-time surely after all that to god he’s taken on a I mean from those humble beginnings and they weren’t really that humble I mean you put together a pretty amazing video it’s it’s gone too a whole new level I mean look at the the latest video that you released we’re recording this and it’s the the 50 foot cliff slip-and-slide now I just want to say personally this scares me a little bit because I don’t even do regular slip-and-slide anymore haha there became this point came this point in my life when I just thought I’m no longer doing that Hey because I’m almost the length of the slip and slide the typical slip and slide that my kids will use you know I’m like halfway there when I lay down right the second of all I’m afraid I’m gonna injure something but this let me slide it was like how many feet long and then how many feet and we were yo is 50 feet off of a cliff right once you left the slip and slide 50 feet straight down until water insane so where was this first of all and hell I mean how do you even set this up to where you can do it without being arrested well half the things we do are technically illegal so actually that’s the truth of the matter and I mean we go in it is a small we call guerrilla filmmaking so we’re a small crew it’s not like a professional Hollywood crew we have all these people otherwise we would have got stopped right away but we shot this at Lake Powell and it’s actually illegal to cliff jump so I’m not sure if we want this people that are listening this but this is the truth this is the uncut unedited version but yeah you can only John Powell Lake Powell which is in Utah which is I mean essentially that’s three hours from where we’re based out of so just a short little drive and yeah we just essentially decided to do that you can only jump 20 feet there legally so we were doing 50 feet so we were already breaking a couple rules and but we did it kind of out in the middle of nowhere so there wasn’t anyone that was gonna stop us and that’s essentially kind of how it went down but I was like 50 feet sliding down and then 50 feet flying off of a cliff but how where does the idea come from the the inception of the thing yeah I think with all the videos that we do we try and take little kid ideas and put a grown-up twist on it so and because people connect with that stuff everyone’s done a slip and slide you know like everyone’s done a slip inside them generally speaking so it’s like what can we do to basically put a macho guy twist on it so that’s kind of how a lot of these ideas come from like for example our rope swinging video this one of our most watched videos everyone’s done a rope swing so where’s like what can we do to make it the next step so let’s make it 400 foot rope swing you know so it’s just like it the world’s largest world’s largest rope sink so it’s always trying to up the ante show it in a new way but people can connect with that because everyone sent a rope swing everyone’s done a slip and slide okay so you think okay slip and slide got it I’m gonna put it on the side of a cliff there’s one three hours away not really legal but it’s really isolated so no one will ever know and you’re not coming in on a helicopter you’re like hiking and you’re like yeah that one we actually took like a houseboat so we drove out there and then we shot all day for a couple days with a bunch of our friends so essentially that’s how it goes down but you know when you’re jumping off of a 50-foot cliff how do you you you obviously you’re doing this in a place where some money’s probably done this before but it’s not like this is the designated jumping area you’ve got to kind of know like no one’s gonna hit the bottom right so how does how do you work that stuff out how do you know how deeper these people are gonna go and we know that they’re not gonna hit a rock and yeah no great question it’s like to come up with essentially the concept so you figured out the concept and then a couple of our friends that do all the videos with us we sent them out a couple days early because there’s no designated spot this is where you do the 50-foot you know slip and slide there’s no sign there’s no it’s not an amusement park so they went out and they spent literally two days driving around Lake Powell trying to find a location that would actually work when who are these people stunt people just Facebook friends essentially they’re just people that I’ve met as we’ve been doing YouTube videos like this guy in particular I was at a restaurant he stopped me he’s like hey I saw that you did this video we do a rope swing he showed me on his phone a rope swing that they had done it was the arch one and I was like I saw that I was like I would love to do that so we did that together and we just became friends so essentially as we create videos we make friends and then essentially now our fans inspire our ideas we’re constantly getting submissions saying hey you guys should do this you guys should do this so we’re seeing other ideas from our fans and then we’re going out there and creating it on a much higher end level you got two guys who now work for you mmm-hmm they location location scouted yeah they’re also cliff divers they’re everything I mean they do their ropes in with us anything that requires any kind of dangerous stunts these guys do and I mean bona fide stunt guys you can call whatever you want all right but they don’t they’re not like movie stunt guy not at all like it’s funny like the main guy he was studying to become a lawyer the pelant guy with the blond high with the blond hair like every time I call him when I first started working with him he was always in the library studying for the bar exam this is not just like some lifelong friend this is a guy was like I’ll do this yeah exactly oh he’s becoming old Rises and now he’s become the star so it’s worked out great but he hasn’t got any choice his name’s Creighton Curtin Bear did this guy were referring to he’s a blond hair guy he got really famous when we did her video where he pushed his girlfriend off of the rope swing and she broke up with him as he was falling or she was falling and that’s true completely true now she said I’m breaking up with you but they actually didn’t break up at that time they broke up like two or three months later a different story say that for a different day but that was all part of the process yeah it was all part of the process and then we just became friends as we worked together and I mean for me that’s what I love about what we do with YouTube is about finding passionate people in their fields and then working with them and creating cool things well passionate is one way to describe them I can think of another word to describe them it’s called crazy or stupid or this or that if it’s a little harsh but crazy in the most endearing way right oh for sure well I you know you’re cut you’ve kind of answered the question in terms of you know where you where these people come from you’ve got a couple of look at the core guys who are gonna kind of always be involved but then every once in a while it seems like you find a group of people or a person who does something amazing and you’re like okay I can put the Devin Supertramp slant on that I can capture that in the way that only you are capturing those kinds of things now for sure let’s let’s talk about another one that world’s largest rope swing which you’ve talked about a little bit you said this that’s the guy just coming up to you and showing the video on his phone so they had figured out how to tie a rope to the top of one of these unbelievably two large arches in like what a Utah National Park know so was it a national park so actually there’s nothing illegal about that video which you think there was something but it was on public domain land where anyone could go out there um it’s still legal now they actually sent that video because I got so much traction so many people started going there they have a sign that says due to a popular video showing a rope swing be very cautious because if you don’t know what you’re doing this can be very dangerous all right yeah which is is that so that rocks swing it’s a 200-foot rope swing itself so Rope the rope it is 200 so maybe 240 feet ish total but they’re swinging 200 feet no okay so you’ve got these guys who’ve done this before they have conceivably figured out the physics involved but I mean you know you never know I mean these guys could just be it could be me and link showing you this video right so how do you gain a sense of alright these guys are legit no one’s going to die and okay we can move forward with this like what I always kind of just assume when I look at something like that light on there must be some some somebody is like really analyzing all this to make sure that it’s going to be you know totally legit and safe right now for sure and it’s like the guys that we’re using they’re not guys we just randomly pick off the streets like this guy was studying to be a lawyer like the guy that actually did like the calculations to make sure it was safe like he’s a mathematician and then basically we go up there they figured it out on their own okay and then there’s like set of them and they’re all hardcore rock climbers so they’re used to working with those kind of ropes and they do this like every weekend so I know they’re already passionate about it I know they have a good sense of what they’re doing and then once we get up there they spend all day setting it up like it was a full day of setting up for the canyon rope swing and then each one of them checks it double checks it and then the last person to or the first person to jump is the last person to check it so you know they’re double double double checking it and then before they don’t like send a dummy first no so that’s where I’m going next so after they do all the testing then they got a two hundred pound bag they hooked it up to the rope and then they swung it off just to make sure the way the rope swung and everything like it would have been safe and right no no question it wasn’t sure that it doesn’t just go right into the side I mean the things we do as far as stunts generally speaking like you’re not gonna get hurt you’re gonna lose your life so and I don’t want to have that on my shoulders no one wants to have that on their shoulder so we do all the testing possible and I mean there’s always different variables but generally speaking we make sure it’s as safe as possible for everyone there but they’re kind of handling that aspect of it the people who have experienced with the specific stunt I’ll call it whereas I would imagine most of your time and energy is how do I capture this in the way that I want to capture it how many cameras are we talking about what’s the what’s the team involved say with world’s largest rope swing yeah so for that one in particular we shot that on two different days and the first day it was just me and another guy on camera and then the second day is like I realized how cool it was visually so I brought three other camera guys so I guess there was four guys total shooting that as well on the second day and just two full days of filming and essentially four camera guys on those projects oh well trike drifting I mean where do you find people who can do that barefooted these are described this to me I mean what’s your first exposure did you didn’t invent trike drifting I did not invent track drifting so what’s your first exposure to it we always our videos just happen from living life and meeting the most random people so backstory on this one which most people don’t have no idea but I get an email from a guy in New Zealand he’s like I am super wealthy he says I love your videos and I would like I want to fly you first-class and meet you all year oh my god emails that start with the phrase I am super well yeah honestly how he started he but he’s like I can’t tell you who I am so it was a little creepy as well okay so like okay sounds a little sketchy so I didn’t respond and then he responds like a month later so like he’s really serious about I give my number he calls me at four o’clock in the morning so my okay I’m not sure what’s going on so I decided to go so he flies me first class first time flying first class to New Zealand just you just me and he flew my friend as well so we got there and then he picks us up with his private helicopter and he owns a website called mega upload his name is Kim calm why’s you zealand you don’t know it’s kim.com don’t know we get there you’re serious yeah this is great so it’s like all these stories we have so many stories like this that are so like random like how does that even happen Kim come was like held up in his compound well there’s another story right there which I’ll tell you one second I’m so finish this one story and don’t forget the second I promise a part of this story so he flies as he has two huge cars pick us up and one of the cars says mafia and the other one says like evil so he picks us up in those two cars and they take us to his private helicopter flies us and he hasn’t you in the car he wasn’t in the car he had to like gangster mob guys which were like the nicest guys I’ve ever met she’s like first impressions like don’t judge you know because you don’t know what you’re judging right I’m the evil mafia it was a little scary so he takes us to is his mansion it’s the biggest mansion in New Zealand oh yeah and then he’s just like he says I love what you guys are doing he’s like I have my private helicopter take it out whenever you want so I stayed there for two weeks and he never got an email like this I don’t you know I just we’ll go and didn’t say that so maybe we’re making the wrong kind of videos but just take out my helicopter anytime you want so we’d literally fly from one side the island to the other side the island and it was a seven seater so we had full access and we would stop and we would film how did you know how to fly a helicopter well I didn’t know how to fly but he did his pilot did I guess is who it was okay but it was funny like he liked talking with him he was like I love the villains from James Bond movies so it was like I want to become like a villain from the James Bond movies so his lifestyle like the way he lives is completely like that one night so what’s the house like I mean what does this mansion like you were there for two weeks yeah it’s there for two weeks he has like 30 sports cars like he is a race car driver like that’s what he’s passionate about he loves video games so he’d spend like 12 hours a night playing call of duty and he was the world’s best Call of Duty player online which is like how do you have so much money and play video games all day but it was so nice what was the what was the first meeting with him like because I imagine you go into this long room with a executive chair facing away from you and then it slowly turns towards you and there’s kim.com it wasn’t as dramatic as that Inspector Gadget is what I think of it yeah but with the cat but no he had us come in his living room he had a gigantic table with as much food as you can think of like they had like 20 different waiters that would serve you any kind of food for each different kind of culture like if you want an Asian food if you want to Mexican food we had it all and it is just like I love what you guys are doing any sense but where was he standing and what was he wearing and what did he look like he looked like a normal guy who just wearing a t-shirt it was really hot out so it was a little sweaty and then he was just sitting at the table and he’s like welcome to my house you know and then he just was one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met and he’s like I want to just help you guys get to the next level because I wasn’t what you guys are doing this was two and a half years ago maybe um I’m trying to think what his first video we did a another video called trike racing with trike drifting which we just talked about was actually the sequel to that he saw that video he’s like I loved how you had normal speed and go to slow motion he’s like I’ve never seen that before so I just love what you’re doing and I love racing so he’s just like this whole islands yours do whatever you want so we took the helicopter we flew around we shot a couple of videos and then he was like I have a couple friends that do trike drifting he’s like and he showed me one of their things like I have there their phone and her contact he’s like if you want to do anything with them just go out there and he says I will make sure you get there so that was all film 2 news yeah so that that video itself was filmed in New Zealand and he and literally he told us that story about these guys the day before we left so we actually only had three hours to shoot that video total so he just shot it at sunset and an hour after it got dark but yeah he was a super awesome and and described that it’s it’s like it looks like a kid big wheel but but it’s got a it’s like a professional-grade big wheel big wheel in the front it’s like a tire yeah then there’s two small tires in the back that looked like if you took all the TP off up off a roll and just left a bait the bear cardboard what was that I don’t even know how they made those I know they were all super passionate about it and they all made them in the cell and it was like this passe of New Zealanders is I think there’s like nine of them that do it and they do it all the time and in New Zealand you can basically get away with anything as far as the cops don’t stop you like the cops will just sit there and watch and smile as we we would film oh yeah you were like in a minivan shooting them behind you you’d pull him with a rope right yeah yeah then they would let go and they’d be zooming down this hill and Trent oncoming traffic would be barely missing these guys like each side of the oncoming train it got a little scary and then one of the guys he’s like a longboard he’s like I’m gonna longboard down this he’ll barefoot so I was like I don’t feel comfortable filming that so if you guys want to do that go ahead and do that so he went down and then all of a sudden the other guy ran up and he’s like the guys down there passed out he had a stopping he jumped out he knocked and got everything knocked at him so he actually had to call an ambulance but it was just the whole thing I catch that on camera can I refuse the film because I was like I don’t think that’s a smart idea going down a steep hill where you can’t stop barefoot does Kim calm bring his a helicopter to take you to the hospital at that point or is it like now it’s just a normal he’s not actually there for that part of it he was just at his house hanging out yeah and what’s the what’s the second story where he you know he’s rated by the New Zealand authorities or like international authorities or something yeah he’s there for that so yeah so he sits down with us and he was like I want to start funding every one of your videos unlimited budget you just go out there and do your thing so it’s like I have no problem with that whatsoever so he’s like we’re gonna we’re gonna fly back home and then we’ll work out all the details so we get in the airplane we take off yeah what did you know about him at this point other than the fact that he’s super wealthy because before he was in the news I didn’t know anything about megaupload or Khimki yeah I didn’t know anything about it either at the time until I got there and he told me essentially that makeup looked similar to YouTube as far as people are uploading all this stuff except for they don’t stop people from copyright stuff essentially he’s really got in trouble for it but that’s all I knew about the website and about him but then as I started researching I’m like there’s so much stuff about him and he used to be this big hacker and then he changed his life around he got back in the game and he started giving back to society but yeah I didn’t realize he had such a kind of a crazy history about him and so you get back on the plane with like a blank check it’s a no blank check yet he was gonna write it so to speak yeah so it speaks so we flew back to America and then I the second wheel and I got on my phone to check more information about him so I type in kim.com and the first thing that pops up is FBI raids his house for hours after we had laughs maybe you want FBI agents to helicopters they swarm and take over the whole perimeter yeah he’s like going into an inner sanctum like a safe yeah and being he’s like holed up in us in us yes they threw him in there exactly but it kind of blew my mind I was like we just left and all that happened like how does that all happen right when we leave but it was like interesting to reading the media because they are saying how like all these guards were there I was like I was at that perimeter and they only have one guard and it’s super low-key like I felt like all the things that media was conveying was actually not true at all because I had just been there I had seen how it was so I was kind of fresh a with the media’s like they’re making him sound like this awful guy when in reality I was there and I saw all that stuff and if a mozillian air is gonna fund everything I’m gonna do you like them they kept him in jail for for a month it was sad because his wife was having twins so he kind of missed that whole thing but afterwards I mean he got arrested because he had two servers that he was running his website in America so that’s why America come could come in there take over because it was America that actually did that right but then they did unjustly so they actually had to release him and give him everything back so he was off the hook and his criminal record as far as that goes was completely wiped so what happened with your relationship so our relationship we still talk every five or six months I haven’t asked for mine because I’m like he’s already dealing with all these other things you know and things are going good now where we have all these sponsorships and stuff like that so we’re okay as far as funding ideas that we want you know so I was okay with it you know but it’s just kind of a cool experience see New Zealand in that way because most people don’t get that kind of excite us well let me ask this then a more open-ended question if that’s happened to you as a result of these type of videos what other crazy things and opportunities have had open to you as a result of making the most epic videos on YouTube I’m trying to think I feel we get always amazing I mean a lot of times people give a lot of crap excuse my language but for youtubers working with brands but for us it gives us opportunities says essentially do what we want so we’re gonna throw these brands down and basically they’re like we want you to create whatever you guys can think of we’ve seen what you guys have done in the past so whatever budget you guys need to make your ideas happen we’ll fund so essentially that’s what’s happening now and I mean a good example no other kim.com emails that was the craziest one yeah that was definitely craziest one so we haven’t had any crazy gnarly stories recently anyways I’m trying to think of anything that’s happened that was just kind of mind-blowing but when Mountain Dew contacts you and says hey Dale Earnhardt jr. is gonna hang out with you guys just make any video you want to make that’s kind of like another day at the office at this point at this point it is and that’s exactly how that kind of went down we’re like you have his backyard do whatever you want and you have him as the star so we’re like we’ll do it so at this point is there are there any videos that you’re just financing yourself or is it now like well I mean there’s always a way to tie somebody and whether it’s you know the company that owns the hoverboard right whatever yeah are you always involving a sponsor now because it’s just such an easy fit it’s a really easy fix I I feel our content is very brand friendly um but the same time too though we’re very and we want to do products we’re passionate about so a couple months ago we actually I’m really passionate about Iceland I wasn’t there a couple years ago I love the country so like I want to tell a story of us as filmmakers and capture that so I’m like I want to tell that there by going to Iceland because it’s super harsh super bad conditions and I feel if we can show people what we have to go through to get shots we can tell our story so that was kind of a project that we funded ourselves that cost a fair amount of money we flew our helicopter guy down there and several other film crew crew members and we spent two weeks out there and like awful conditions but filming the Northern Lights and getting all these shots we’ve never gotten before and that’s and that’s gonna be an hour-long film but that’s essentially things that were passionate about and essentially I mean we’re using YouTube to basically help us get to the next level will always stay with you too but we’re using it as a vehicle to do these projects that we’re passionate about it’s through working with brands and other people that we can make that so then so this documentary since I guess for lack of a better word is that gonna just be distributed on your channel yeah so we’re not positive exactly how we’re gonna do I think kind of where we’re gearing is we want to have access that everyone can watch it regardless of the price so I think we’re gonna kind of do is something where you pay whatever you want to pay whether it be a penny whether it be thirty dollars and we’re not still caring about making our money back so much is just telling our story and inspiring other people because essentially that’s what we want to stand for what’s the favorite video of yours that you’ve made so far sadly it’s usually the videos that do really well cuz that affects how we feel about it like you emotionally like some of the videos that I really was passionate about when we actually shot them they completely flopped and then it’s like every time I watched that video or look at that video like it hurts my heart like what um two examples as I did a halo video for the video game Halo and they didn’t fund it I funded it myself and it costs I want to say fourteen thousand dollars I flying nine people and I was just finding to myself no brands attacks a ton so it was the first person shooter basically was halo in real life the new halo video game was gonna be coming out soon so I did that we released it and then people didn’t like it at all and then every comment was just like a hate comment we hate you guys and also too was right after the big shooting happened by Christmas time a year two years ago so there’s a lot of violence things going on with that so we obviously that was a very sensitive subject so it was just bad timing as well but it was something I put my heart into really cared about and then it flops so every time I think of that video like I have a really like my heart hurts because of that but it’s still on your channel yeah it’s still on my channel you can still go watch it can’t remember is halo in real life or something of children leave a negative comment yeah you still leave a negative thought at this point yeah it doesn’t hurt so bad I’m speaking of hurt I know that sometimes people do get hurt you oh you got hurt in the behind-the-scenes video we saw where the jet ski that was I guess powering the yeah overboard yep hit you in the back of the head tell us about that yes uh kind of our motto on our channel is it’s all about the shot so it’s all about putting us in dangerous situations obviously you have to be smart about that but in that case we’re filming a hoverboard video and I was trying to get as close to the action as possible now the way this hoverboard works just to kind of but I’ve seen it and I’d like for you to explain it yes so it is a essentially a snowboard that hooks to a hose that hooks to a jet ski or a seadoo and you basically someone sits on the city who pulls a throttle and then it lifts the person on the board 30 feet up in the air and it’s shootable by water it shoots a hydrant sized stem of water out of the back of its snowboard it’s shooting the water that’s coming out of the jet ski normally that would propel the jet ski shooting it through the hose exactly so instead of air coming out of jet ski it’s actually coming out of the board itself yeah so it’s a new invention and it just I mean it has it actually gets released next month so it’s technically not even out in the market yet but yeah it’s all done that way so when the person rides on the hybrid board it pulls a jet ski behind them so I was trying to film the hoverboard fly over me which also means the jet skis gonna be falling right behind that and I are in the water in scuba gear I’m in the water with my underwater housing and it flies right over me and there’s so much pressure going off that board that I get sprayed so bad that I have no idea what’s going on and all of a sudden I hear the jet ski right behind me and then it completely covers me and then I patrol over it right yeah he’s being pulled so I get clobbered in the back of the head and this time I don’t think I have a life vest on maybe I do but I don’t think I do I want to suggest that so I get hit and then I’m like terrified cuz I’m like I’m gonna pass out because it really did hurt and I’m in the open water so I put my head down I kind of just wait there for a second then I had two friends I mean there’s a lot of people there watching as it was happening so I had two friends jump in there to make sure that I was okay and I ended up being okay but I just kind of one of those terrifying things as far as what’s going on and I just complete disoriented and I and I got ran over by a jet ski but I survived what other videos have had things go wrong out of all the videos we’ve done the video we did on the blob more people got hurt on that than any other video and what that is it’s a big gigantic and floatable balloon and you jump off of a houseboat and you have someone sit on the end of that balloon and then the pressure from the other person jumping on the other end it repels them or shoots them up in the air 50 feet that one we had two guys jump off at the same time to basically add pressure to the other end and one of the guys was a bigger guy he jumped on the guy’s collarbone and it popped the collar bone out of his out of his neck it didn’t actually come out of his skin but I don’t do good with that stuff at all I do give his stories about that like squirming yeah it was very nasty like it when it happens do you keep filming and now you’re filming the collarbone situation yeah III pull the camera and I was shooting this story until I got too queasy and then we made everyone’s jumping in though it’s not like I’m filming and everyone’s laughing and party and still like people are jumping in pulling them out and I’m filming it just to capture that story they pull him he’s okay we obviously take a 20-minute break and make sure to figure out what we can do to fix this problem then we realize don’t jump and everyone be holding hands and have your arms actually interlocked and what happens to the guy with the collarbone he’s leaves tired he’s fired no so he was like I’ll be okay we doing bunch of painkillers and then we got a boat and then we sent him to get fixed so he’s fine get a rubber mallet and just kind of tap on him but yeah that happened a girl jumped off the cliff while we were there filming and her she bruised her broke her collarbone we had one girl spitting out blood from just the impact of the water oh my and then I was running across the deck of the bow because the Sun was setting and the lighting was really pretty sari is trying to hurry and then I land on the water I slipped so I ran into the side of the boat and then I broke my toe stupid out of all the things I do that’s where I break it so so okay this one raises a couple of questions at this point with the size of your operation do you like what is the what is the arrangement with the people who come and do this like was there is some sort of insurance policy that covers everybody is there an on-site doctor right great question so originally starting off we didn’t know what we were doing we were just going out there with our friends having fun now as it’s gotten bigger you have to take a lot more precautions so the precautions that we take is we actually have insurance that covers everyone that’s there if something does go wrong whether it be a death as far as like making sure everyone’s protected we’re protected or if they’re her we have it basically we’ll cover them as far as hospital bills and stuff like that everyone signs a release form everyone signs a waiver basically saying we’re okay if we do get hurt we’re aware of what we’re doing and then depending on the project we’ll pay the people or will not pay the people and that just depends on if it’s a branded thing or if it’s not branding the thing if it’s not Brandon thing we just make sure it’s a really awesome essentially party where everyone has a really good experience and we cover everyone’s cost as far as that goes right so it’s pretty easy to get people to show up yeah yeah we just hold a big thing and I mean we could get thousands of people but usually it’s kind of invited only we just did something in San Francisco actually where you made a gigantic slip and slide down the streets of San Francisco and then I just did an Instagram and Twitter post saying hey all my fans you guys are invited the first hundred people that sign up get all access so just different ways that we’re doing it now you rarely participate in any of those dots I mean you’re you’re directing and shooting right correct you’re not it you’re not a dive in kind of a guy know so I thought I broke my back in high school and I was told I would never be able I did a snowboard and I was told I was never be able to snowboard again what was the was this story yeah it was a jump I was trying it was the last day of the snowboard season my goal originally was to be a cross-country track runner like that was what I plan on doing with my life so that happened and that obviously changed things pretty dramatically I was in bed for three months I had a metal back brace did you go off a jump and land oh no I went off the jump it was probably about a 70 foot jump and I didn’t clear the jump so you’re supposed to land on a downslope I landed flat so it’d be like jumping off of a two-story house and then just landing straight somebody back my sorry I’m hiccuping but my back it actually my vertebrae squish so it’s an l2 compression fracture is the technical jargon did you land on your butt no I landed on my feet but my vertebrae literally squid from the impact I’m just falling too high so but you technically landed it I technically landed we’re gonna roll a couple of times and that’s a problem with cameras like we had the camera so I got it all on film like oh really you’re always pushing things on your on a film but I think that makes it so I’m very cautious now because I know people are gonna push themselves more but I’m like I’ll say I don’t think you should be doing this like I make sure I’m constantly asking people do you feel comfortable at this cuz I don’t want anyone hurt so at this point and you break something else too though yeah then a couple months well after I was able to walk again and actually I got back and started snowboarding again right back a couple of weeks later I break my leg and this time I bone actually shot out my leg in my leg was just flapping laughter where was it it was at the shin or the femur I was a femur you broke your femur this part of the body right no I never took the land anatomy classes you broke like the tibia yeah the TB or whatever fancy named you guys call it how did you break that one I was at a snowboard camp and I was jumping on that trampoline that’s supposed to train you and I over jumped and landed on the spring landing on the spring it instantly broke the bone out and then I flew off the trampoline and landed on the ground with my leg flopping back and forth I got that all on video as well really so do these just like videos that you watch just to yourself or know in high school I mean that’s kind of a made me learn how to edit is I would always go out there and make snowboarding videos with my friends and then I’d self taught myself how to edit because I wanted to show my friends so we’re always going out there filming each other snowboarding and I think that’s kind of what got me in the whole extreme sport kind of genre that we are in now is is this all started I mean it started before high school but that’s when I started pushing it so it’s you’re it was a personal interest but then the injuries kind of sidelined you a little bit yeah they sidelined me a little bit and I mean the truth of the matter is half the things I film I’m actually afraid of so I am absolutely terrified of heights but half of our videos deal with Heights but that’s why for me it’s a challenge I feel intrigued by it so I pushed my selves and I faced my fears even though I’m not doing a lot of these things myself I push myself as far as just challenging myself to do things I’m afraid of I leaned over the cliff edge and other things like that so did you grow up and like a stunt family no worse no fourth family no I grew up as just like a Boy Scout doing my thing Eagle you know and I grew up making Lego movies with my siblings like that’s kind of what got me in the whole video we’re all doing motion stop-motion lego movies and music videos with my siblings and where was this this was an Oregon I’m from Portland Oregon that’s where I grew up that’s where I was raised three other siblings and I just take them and we make Lego movies together in music videos together and just stupid random ninja movies together and I just always loved it I mean I was taking my parents cameras and then I’d probably ruined three or four of my parents cameras but they’ve always been so supportive NYU and why don’t you ruin a camera we’re always making a stop-motion I know well push the push the shutter too hard well this is when VHS existed so the tapes would get clan or cramped in there and just ruin the whole cameras okay there’s old-school stuff not digital at all but but that is kind of the knack that didn’t followed you into snowboarding yep just carry all crumpled together it is it’s all one no matter what you’re doing and then I started doing wedding video so just I’ve gone through a couple different phases you know but I just I’m always learning different aspects as far as I love that I always love it when I hear that somebody who’s doing what you’re doing now made a wedding video we made a wedding video aha there’s this thing that there are people out there who can say things like yeah our wedding video was made by Devin sue it’s like at the time you know it was just Devin no yeah Devin’s got a camera he’s gonna do this there’s just something about people being able to say that after the fact Maria Matthews is the only person who can say that they have a rhettandlink winning I did a good job on that with the montage the dance montage oh yeah that was so so black and white and I did a lot of fades no no Devin glidecam or anything like that then now I know you went on a Mormon mission so you yeah you grew up Mormon a honker up LDS or Mormon okay went to Jamaica yeah I went to Jamaica you guys know your facts impressed but yeah I went to Jamaica for two years so right after high school three months after high school I got a mission call to go for our church and basically represent them and we went to Jamaica I went to Jamaica for two years very easy decision for you like automatic yeah I’ve always known I’m going on a mission yeah I’ve always knew because I just love working with people talking to people I always knew I wanted to do it it’s not required that you do it in our church but I knew it was something that I wanted to do so I sent out my paper saying I would love to go on a mission and that’s when they asked me to go to Jamaica they’re like you’re needed in Jamaica to serve the people there so I spent basically two years serving the people as far as community service and then also teaching them about Jesus and that’s what I did and for me it was awesome because I got to see a whole new experience as far as culture and I feel everything I do now is tied right back and do that because we travel all around the world and we’re constantly meeting different people so it just it’s been really cool as far as balancing me that way do you wear a black tie white shirt and name tag yeah you wear the whole I mean now oh no no not at all you know wearing it right now but right now I’ll wear a white shirt and a tie when I go to church on it that day but no name tags but yeah that’s the church standards as far as the missionaries go so when people see that they know as far as okay those guys are the the Mormon of the LDS missionary you know is Jamaica dangerous is there a dangerous side of that that you kind of interfaced with as a missionary yeah it’s actually the at the time anyways it was the third most dangerous country per capita so I mean I was on buses where the bus got hijacked I was walking down the street with people seeing them like pluck guns I saw a guy get killed as far as get shot and we ran through gun battles so it was like a third world full experience um there was time heaven when the bus got hijacked how did you get out of that one um trying to remember exact cause we were sitting near the front and then all of a sudden this guy pulls out this huge machete huge knife then he holds this lady with all her earrings and stuff and pulls a knife right up to her neck and then he starts taking everything from everybody everyone just basically was giving everything off and anyway than the exit of the back of the bus did you give anything up I I wasn’t asked to give anything up and we were the front of the bus so we weren’t like face to face with the guy but it was kind of one of those experiences where you’re like what are you gonna do and that kind of experience and it was definitely very traumatic I realized early on because I died right my mom every every week and I told her about a couple of those stories and then she got like really terrified so I was like you can’t tell her everything that’s going on in Jamaica because you don’t want to scare everyone back home but it was I mean I felt safe still there I mean I wouldn’t have gone there if I didn’t feel safe with what we were doing and the people there was awesome because they loved the missionaries so they would take care of us you know and people were very respectful as far as that goes is your faith still a large component of your life now yeah I mean I honestly feel with all the videos that we do I try and stay true to who I am you know and it’s about inspiring people it’s about being positive having uplifting messages so I mean and the one of the things we do is like we don’t swear we don’t smoke we don’t drink so in our videos and it’s also about dressing modest as well so in our videos you’ll notice that we don’t swear we don’t drink we’re not having girls completely nude or anything like that you know like we’re very as far as conservative as far as that stuff goes but I wanted to hit and honestly I filled in your nude it really hurts hitting that water and Oh believe me I think one person actually did go down dude just so he could say he did it but we didn’t capture that for the video different story but an honestly – I feel it’s actually by doing that it’s worked to our advantage because it’s made our video super family-friendly almost kind of like a Disney of YouTube so all audience can share it and it’s not just an older audience or a more mature audience and also – because there’s not a lot of dialogue in our videos it’s also made it very international so a lot and sharing our national so I feel it’s really helped us as far as all that stuff goes by living our faith mm-hmm now we’ve we’ve talked to Shea kind of told us about his mission which was similar and that he was in a Caribbean country wasn’t where did he go he went somewhere that they also spoke English and then some similar uh-huh things happened to him but we also talked with Lindsey mm-hmm who tell us a little bit about your your history with Lindsey Stirling yeah guys this podcast that you guys did with her so I heard her her whole little shenanigans but yeah I was I was actually living in Hawaii at the time and someone showed me one of her videos from America’s Got Talent and I was all about finding interesting people because interesting people people want to watch on YouTube now you are in Hawaii just to connect the dots you went to BYU after your mission but as you said earlier you dropped out in order to be a youtuber right yeah so that happened as far as the bike jump video and then I got an opportunity to go to Hawaii for a year and do a documentary so it’s basically I moved to Hawaii to do that documentary and then I had a lot of free time so I started doing YouTube videos constantly to kill time essentially because their budget actually ran out so it’s like I just dropped out of school they had no budget so that’s when I decided I’m just gonna go for the YouTube thing because I’m already here in Hawaii and I can’t go back because I just gave up everything else so I started doing videos there in Hawaii after that bike jump video and you made some that really popped that really built your channel after yeah so after that I did that another video is a water reservoir that we snuck into wasn’t drinking water but we did a big slip and slide we did that Biel then exploded then we kept on doing videos that was there it was a pond but all the whole thing was just black yeah yep that was a tarp holding water so yeah we did that video just exploded again we got all this commercial work from it as well so it just like we just kept trying to ride the wave and then I started putting on a video every other week and then I started doing a video every week and then that’s what I just truly took off when you saw this amazing violinist on America’s Got Talent and what happened so I saw that and at that time the piano guys are you guys familiar with them yeah so they contacted me and they were like we see what you’re doing on YouTube we want to try this as well we’d love to fly you down to Utah cuz that’s where we’re based out of and that’s where I was going to school the time you come to our mansion with all our sports I’m evil winters mafia the other says piano they were a little bit smaller humble beginnings this had a piano for those guys but I was like I’m gonna go into Utah I know that’s where Lindsay’s bass because she was actually going to BYU as well which we never met when I was going to BYU cuz she was going on her mission at the time when I was going to school there so I contacted Lindsay I’m like I’m shooting the piano guys this day and I have one free day I love to shoot a video on you it was not gonna cost you anything and then I gotta put it on my channel and then you essentially get all the iTunes sales from that so she’s like that sounds good let me think about it essentially but and then she came back to me she’s like I just checked out your channel and she’s like I’d love to do something with you so I was really excited about it so I did the piano guys and then we shot all night so after we got done shooting I went straight to Lindsay Stiles picked her up and then we spent all day filming her video which was a four video called spontaneous me put that on my channel and then it literally the same thing happened as far as it took off people had never seen a girl dancing and playing violin right so once that took on you put the word epic in the title epic violin girl you have to have epic because that people think is epic and they click on it there was no faking people out there so yeah we did that video with Lindsay and then we just started talking back and forth I mean it was the whole long-distance thing as far as just beat we were just friends but talking back and forth on Facebook and then I had another opportunity to go back to Utah a couple weeks later so I went back there and we shot another video together and we just became best friends and then a couple months later we started dating as well and then I moved back from Hawaii to Utah and then we ended up dating for I want to say around 16 months give or take I’m not sure what she told you guys but somewhere around that general area yeah and then I’ve been in the whole YouTube scene for about a year at this time and then essentially I think I shot the first 23 videos on our YouTube channel and then wherever I went I’d take her with me so for example New Zealand we just talked about that was who I actually took with me it was Lindsey Stirling and we knew that so we’re like kim.com so makes it even more interest oh man but we were like we’re going to New Zealand so let’s do a Lord of the Rings medley so we took this guy’s helicopter that’s where that was yeah so as film in New Zealand it’s like that’s where the movie takes place so we ride in the helicopter we see a pretty spot and then he land the helicopter Lindsay would get out and then I’d film all these aerial shots from Kim comms helicopter so when you watch the you’re like okay that’s kim.com financing Lindsey Stirling now the description at the bottom is special thanks to Kim comm for making this happen arguably you launched Lindsey’s career I mean it’s one thing to be on America’s Got Talent and she was she’s fabulous but it was that video which really set things off I mean in the wake of America’s Got Talent uh-huh that changed the trajectory of her entire career and I mean that’s what she said as well did you do the same thing for the yo-yo guy did you launch his career well I don’t know about launched his career it definitely got his name out there in different ways I’m not sure exactly what he’s doing right now was um probably yo-yoing probably yelling let’s be honest because he was like the yo-yo champion but he started getting a lot of jobs as well and I honestly I feel for every one that we get to work with I mean I think that’s kind of what our YouTube channel is it’s like America’s Got Talent but on YouTube on steroids as far as we’re trying to find people with weird cool hidden talents and then essentially launching them we did a video on Assassin’s Creed meets parkour is what it’s called yeah I think it has 36 million views your most viewed video our most viewed video but it’s the same story the guy I had do it I just heard that he was a local guy that did parkour so I contacted him and he did construction work so I’m like I’m doing this video on Assassin’s Creed I love for you to be in it and this was I wasn’t doing this with the video game company I just doing it because I like the video game I was like it’d be cool to do this in real life so he said he’d be down so he did it for free we spent seven different evenings filming it launch the video and he didn’t have a YouTube channel at the time so he created one just so we could send subscribers over there and I think it made him get like 80,000 subscribers and then all of a sudden all these big TV shows started contacting them Disney actually did a commercial featuring him so all of a sudden he actually quit his construction job and then he’s been doing stunt work full-time since we did that video so it’s just been really cool seeing that community I feel that’s what’s so great about the YouTube YouTube community is about everyone working together building off of each other’s strengths then everyone benefits together it’s a beautiful thing I mean what can you do for us no I mean you make Carl jump off of something yes right yeah he to do at that what did he jump off of home swing saying he did the biggest rope swing they’ve done yet which was a 400 foot rope swing and he can’t don’t ask us to do there that won’t figure out something though you guys have your dancing zebra though we still do though you know you know what we can even get in that thing zebra on the ropes way yeah we’re not in it we can take credit make people think we are now so in and to finish the the story on Lindsey – I mean she her analysis of your relationship was that you guys both love the same types of things and that kind of you were kind of memorial eyes that there wasn’t maybe this wasn’t a love thing that was gonna last forever yeah so we were both definitely very passionate about creating videos and we definitely loved each other at the time or at least I thought we did you never know doubt is but yeah we got and we got along so well like we were best friends me and Lindsey and we did everything together we’re shooting all these videos and creating all this content and at the time – like I’d only been doing it a year so it was still new to me as far as exciting so we were learning together we were growing together and we were helping each other together and then over time like she got so busy with everything that was happening not that works ever more important but it’s just trying to figure out balance with everything and then I was traveling everywhere and we just thought I mean it wasn’t the best fit for everything that was going on well when you have a Mormon faith I mean there’s a lot at stake you got to make sure that you’re dating the right person cuz when you marry em it’s forever yeah exactly you just you’re forever you populate a planet this is this is a big deal right yeah cuz we believe you when you’re married is for time and all eternity so I mean where we stay as far away from divorce obviously there’s certain reasons when you have to have divorce but we we believe you get married and forever you make it work you figure out how to best get along and we’re like this isn’t just testing the waters kind of thing yeah this is a forever thing so it’s like we wanted to make sure and it was like we we dated for a while and it just wasn’t the best fit for us you know like it’s hard to have two very passionate people that are doing two different things make it work as kind of what I’ve realized is I’ve done the whole dating scene you know and try to figure that out but yeah it was a learning process and I mean I still look at Lindsey is one of my best friends and we’ve gone our own separate ways and done our own things you know but it’s been really exciting seeing what Lindsey’s going out there and creating and and changing the world in our own unique ways you know it’s been exciting knowing that I had a hand and making that happen you know and seeing that process unfold all right so what about the dating life now which is on the internet as well more than with you and Lindsay right tell us about Hayley so this is a sensitive subject oh really no it’s all good that we would what this is the uncut unedited I’m rated very that’s right that’s what a near biscuit is yeah near biscuit we’re all about that but yeah we’re just we’re still trying to figure it out as well Haley’s amazing she’s an amazing musician and it’s just the same thing though it’s just figuring so she’s one of three Gardiner sisters yeah three garner sisters they’re a YouTube channel as well I met Haley on a our flyboard video which was similar to the hybrid board video when Hawaii she came to my shoot and we just same thing we became really good friends and then I heard she had a YouTube channel so I was like let me check out your guys YouTube channel because it wasn’t huge what it was just doing okay I checked it out I like these girls are amazingly talented so I contacted him and like I sat down with them and I was because I’m all about giving back and helping people because everyone benefits that way so I kind of told them the secrets I knew about YouTube as far as how to grow and what the best ways I saw that happened for Lindsay because it was similar thing as far as musician musician and then how they could actually monetize by selling iTunes cover songs so I kind of went over that with them and then they started doing that and I started shooting their videos and then me and Haley fell in love essentially is what happened and then that’s kind of how it’s been with that and I mean right now though we’re not together and we’re just trying to figure out lie because once again it goes back to that same thing as far as two passionate people trying to figure it out because you go in different directions you know so okay so I’m not gonna say I sense a pattern here but you come in we’ve talked about two girls yes but do you think that this is just related to you you’ve stated in other places that you’d like to stay busy I mean all I have to do is knowing what we know about YouTube you can look at your channel and know that you’re busy not to mention the fact that you’re not making you know videos and once 2d every single day and you’re all over the world it does that make it difficult to have a long term relationship yeah well there’s a couple different things I guess is this happens with each of the relationships in Hayley’s case she’s going to school at BYU Hawaii in Hawaii and we’ve been separated for the last five months so I mean I’ve had to keep myself busy but it’s like when we’re in the same place together we make sure we spend time together you know that so it’s not an issue of that I feel it can work but I just do to the circumstances that we’ve been put in as far as she’s been gone for the last five or six months we’ve been FaceTime and everything every day but it does get really hard it does make things complicated the good thing now though is I have a team of other people that I trust as far as team Supertramp is what we call I guess our group of filmmakers where I can send them out so I can be home a lot of the time instead of work and whatnot right so but yeah I just figuring out that bow so it’s kind of on you you’re on a hiatus right now but maybe when she finishes up who knows what yeah who knows what what happens I think the world of her and she is my best friend yeah okay well just keep us posted on that let’s let’s bring you back full circle I you know at the beginning of talked about how there’s an there’s a vibe to your videos that goes beyond what I’m seeing is awesome and scary and an amazing stunt there’s a tone of just exuberance like everybody’s having fun everybody’s happy one of the things that run I discussed when we re watch the videos in prep was the choices of who you show when in the video goes a long way to make it something much more than what you would think it would have to be to be a viral video mm-hmm it you’re not just shooting an amazing hoverboard and you’re not really explaining how it works who because who you know there’s a whole channel that could be devoted to that but you’re not even just showing the amazing thing that happens in the air or while this is swinging or whatever the case may be but only the people who pushes yeah you’re seeing the reactions I mean tell us your philosophy there yeah so my philosophy there I’m gonna tell a quick little story really fast Phil it explains our philosophy maybe a year ago I give this email from this guy in Morocco and he was like I have never been so depressed in my life and finally one day I decided I was gonna end my life so he said it was like 4 o’clock in the morning and he got everything to basically slit his wrists and end his life and he said he was 100% committed to killing himself and he said right before he did that he said he got this thought to go back on my YouTube channel and watch through the videos because he wanted to be reminded what he would be missing if he wasn’t alive and he said by watching those videos it was like it created all these experiences for them even though he had never had them but it made him realize how amazing life is and the people that are in life and that’s kind of I I feel our philosophy with what we do is we want to show people how amazing the world is and it’s not about the hoverboard it’s about the people and the experience with the hoverboard that I mean I feel with the media especially it’s all about negative this and that and how the world’s falling apart but at the same time we don’t see all the positive things because that isn’t news quote-unquote but it’s like the way we look at it is show people how amazing the world is the people around it put them in these amazing experiences and then inspire them to show then life can be great get outside get your friends together have fun and do what you love to do and if you break a collarbone cut that out cut it out but it always makes it cut like it’s nothing behind the scenes but yeah I said it beaches right yes well you know you get this feeling I remember I don’t know specifically what video was but I do remember the first time I watched one of your videos and you and I got the SIS I wanted to be there right that I was like who are these people and why are they having such a good time I mean I know that this awesome thing is happening but it’s just like this community that she wanted that you want to be a part of and they’re all beautiful so where do you find these beautiful people that you put in your your videos yeah that’s a great question people are always like why you always just have such pretty friends I mean that’s not true because I have all kinds of friends and everything else I’m trying to think of the right way but yeah we just invite our friends that we feel are photogenic okay we’ll have other people that aren’t photogenic don’t get me wrong but we obviously yeah put them in but yeah we just like showing everything but we I mean our videos they do have big people they have little people and generally though it’s who’s ever in that area is who we capture so for example San Francisco we had people of all different races colors different sizes and we featured all of them so it just depends on what area what demographic we’re in is – we feature and we have no problem featuring anyone as far as any of that stuff people who are willing to hang out on the edge of a cliff tend to look a certain way and be you know so it’s you get you take what you can get you know well another thing – and I think this plays right along it with why everything that you do is so sponsor friendly but you do also get the sense that whatever these people are into I’m going to buy you know I’m saying it’s just like the music is great what they’re doing is fun they look great oh they’re drinking them out and do I want to think about and do I mean it seems like it’s just ready-made yeah for first sponsorship and I would also think that it would be the kind of thing that you would your door would be getting knocked down to go direct commercials is that happening yeah it’s happening constantly and a lot of people say like how do you get started doing commercial work and what I tell them is when we started I was just featuring my friends clothing company the time it was a viewer aid they were no one knew about him so I was like I want to feature your guys’s product don’t pay me anything but what will happen is other clothing companies that are much bigger we’ll see hey he did this with the VA it has 14 million views what can you do with us you know right now we’re about to do a big video with champion clothing company you know and we have all these other sponsorships we just did something with speed stick deodorant and that’s actually a zip line through Panama City like the city itself to base jump so they’re seeing our videos were like hey Devon did this sponsorship here even though it was a small one at the time they’re seeing that so now they want us to do bigger and better things so I mean that’s kind of how its evolved with all that but they saw that we were proving ourselves with other people okay so lastly tell us what’s the biggest idea that you haven’t been able to do yet but that you want to pull off one day one of the ideas we’re gonna do sooner than later it’s not crazy crazy crazy extreme but everyone absolutely loves our rope swinging videos so the first one we did was through an arts 200 feet the follow-up was 400 feet the next one I want to do because I’m always trying to think what can we do that’s gonna be bigger and better than the last one that will get people reason to share it so we’re like I want to do a rope swing through a gigantic city like it’ll completely change the look so it basically gonna be super or spider-man in real life through a city’s kind of the next big thing that I want to do and obviously getting permits and all that stuff it’s very hard so I’ll probably have to do it in a foreign country but that’s kind of the next big thing that we’re gonna do or is still working out the details with that but you you’re actually laying the groundwork for it the initial groundwork is just figuring out the right sponsorship because I feel we have so many opportunities with different sponsors but it’s like who’s gonna be the best fit right that’s gonna let us tell a story that we want to tell with this because we’re not gonna personally be able to close off all the roads get all the bills and stuff like that like we will have to have a sponsor to do so we’re trying to figure out the best sponsor for that well listen man we’ll be excited to see whatever you come out with next and it’s been cool to hang out here so thanks for the time yeah thank you guys guys rock stars over and out [Music] and there you have it our ear biscuit with Devin Supertramp you know I think after having that conversation with him we have significantly increased our chances of collaborating and that sounds exciting but there’s you know you got to count the cost of a thing such as this like it the cost could be our lives right so we must need to pull back on that it’s no ordinary collaboration I mean this is not like some vlogger who’s like hey I’ll come be on your GMM or you can come to my bedroom and make a video with me well you know you know what I mean not that kind of video but the kind of video that bloggers making their bedroom like a vlog this is like we’re gonna hook you up to something that well he did it shaycarl he didn’t went out there and I don’t know if it was the world’s largest rope swing I think it was it was one of those that he actually did that the interesting thing I mean sometimes when like in just in conversation with friends things like bungee jumping or skydiving comes up Nick asked me this the other day when we went when we were going camping he was like we were talking my skydiving he was like would you ever go skydiving and I said well for a video I might but I wouldn’t do it just for the fun of it but I would do it I might do it if we were making a video I mean that’s I think that’s the only scenario where I would do something if we were going to do it we would make it a video so it’s sort of I mean the sort of answers itself I mean it’s will will you do it I mean I’m the one who’s scared of heights I’m very scared of heights I don’t like ropes courses I don’t even like standing up being the tall person that I am but Nick Nick did skydiving just to do skydiving there’s plenty of people to do that they don’t but it has to take me making a video and creating something in order to put me over the edge literally do it tandem like a few of us together is that how you do it the first no because the implication is that the one on the back of the tandem knows what they’re doing yeah and I don’t think he came out three tandem how about me and you but then there’s a guy behind me triple up is that can you do that so you want to make it even I just want to make it a funny video make this the the human glob underneath the parachute he as heavy as possible that doesn’t sound smart you just get a bigger parachute the thing that I just got a trip out of Devon talking about how I assumed that these were like stuntmen and like their safety officers around and things like that and it it is more of this let’s just get a group of friends who are willing to do these things and have some what you gotta remember its YouTube yeah you you make these assumptions about it but you gotta remember this guy is it looks so high you see he’s still a youtuber you know and that’s what that’s what I love about it I mean I don’t love the fact that you know there’s there’s not a team of safety officers however but let you know it is getting to that point like you said that you know he’s doing these big branded projects and that kind of thing so it’s gotta be more like a traditional film shoot or whatever when I worked for IBM there was a man named Rick whose full-time job was Safety Officer and this is that it like it’s just a corporation you know like like paper cut Rick polling was his name he was like he kind of was like a swarthy sailor type guy he had like white hair and a white beard like don’t lift the water cooler by yourself I don’t understand what he he oversaw the safety features of the manufacturing facility so it does make a little more sense but he also designed like the offices and to make sure that I don’t know people didn’t run into walls slam their hands and laptops and he had the greatest sense of humor like yes like a swarthy sailor he looked and sounded like you can hurt your finger on that little mouse that the IBM ThinkPads had in the middle of it that little nub although you can dis lit right nipple you can you can dislocate a digit on that red nipple I’ve never touched the red nipple stay away from that thing shout-out to Rick poling I missed that guy I hope he’s he’s probably still alive he’s so safe right Morty he’s not what if he’s not well this would be true I don’t know you guys should tweet at Devon I mean you can try to track down Rick polling too I think that’s that’s fine take it or leave it but definitely tweet at Devon let him know what you think of his ear biscuit is handle is Devin Supertramp de VI n Supertramp so let them know what you think hashtag ear biscuits on that and we will be rope swinging back your way drifting into another death-defying ear biscuit next Friday yes happens every week and if we do the Devon collaboration then we’ll will obviously let you know because that’s the only reason we’re gonna be doing it is so that you can watch it and laugh at us I think we’re gonna be put in in post oh we’re gonna be put it in into post we’re gonna be put into one of his videos in post okay I’m not gonna actually be there a lot of a lot of rotoscoping okay see you next week [Music] [Music]