Welcome to “Ear Biscuits”, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Link. And I’m Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we’re going to be talking, amongst other things, about career shifts, if maybe you might relate to someone who is at a point in their career where they feel like they need a shift. Are you looking for a change? We’re gonna give some perspective on that. And we’re gonna talk about some other things. If you’re here just for dumb small talk, we’ll give you that too. We got plenty of that. And I will say, I’m gonna go and say it right now, we really enjoy hearing from you. We really enjoy your voicemails. Like we, here’s the thing. Mm-hmm. I know that some people, because y’all have said, it’s like, “Well, I don’t like hearing the sound of my own voice.” Trust me, as two guys who’ve been hearing the sound of their own voice for 20 years and never really liking it, to be honest with you, we can completely relate to that. You don’t like your voice? You know how it is when you hear a recording of yourself. I mean, it’s always like, “Eh, I wish it was a little different.” Huh. And I mean, I’ve gotten so used to hearing it at this point that it’s less pronounced as it was, you know, 20 years ago. Well, yeah. But I’m just trying to relate, Link. Let me relate, let me relate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know that some of you get nervous when you hear that , and then, “Oh crap, if whatever I say is gonna end up on the internet.” Listen, if you make yourself look stupid, we won’t put it on the show. Okay? You can always call back. Yeah, you can always just say, “Hey, scratch that last one. I got… I’ve reworded it, I wrote…” You wanna write it down. What I’m getting at is that we like to hear from you. and it’s better than you typing in something on Twitter, because then we have to read it. We wanna hear your voice. We wanna hear your questions. We wanna hear your comments. We’re trying to, if you haven’t noticed, make that a bigger part of the show because we think it’s a great jumping off point for all kinds of conversations and stories that we can tell. Mm-hmm. So we’re asking… How would you do that? Well, you just call the phone number, 1-888-EARPOD1. EARPOD1. That’s the number one. Now, Jamie, help me understand something. Maybe I’m wrong. Yes. Because I see some people say that if they are not from the United States of America, that they can’t call this number, is that true? I believe so. I don’t really know like if… ‘Cause it’s like if you dial the 1 and then the 888, that’s the area code of the country. Yeah. That should work. Is it because it just costs them money? Is that the thing? Is it now they’re having to pay to call? Yeah, if there’s like roaming or whatever, or international charges. Okay. So here’s what I’m gonna promise that Jamie is gonna look into. Yes, I will research. I am promising that Jamie will look into us coming up with a solution. You’re promising a process, you’re not promising results. I’m not a solution, yeah. We are going to investigate the reality of what it would look like to allow anyone to call toll-free. And if that means some sort of submission that’s like over the internet that’s not calling a number, whatever we end up coming up with. Because if we’re gonna make this a bigger part of the show and you don’t live in the United States, we want to open it up to everybody. This is a global show. Okay. This goes across the entire spherical, flat disc of the Earth. The entire show is broadcast over the big, completely flat, circular, firmament enclosed, sitting on the back of a turtle Earth that we’re all on right now. and we would like you all to be a part of it wherever you’re at on the disc. I think if they use WhatsApp, it should be fine. Okay. They can just dial the number through WhatsApp, I’m pretty sure you can call any country. You know what we’re gonna do? Try that. I’m gonna make a second promise. Jamie is going to contact one of her many international acquaintances or friends and get them to test this theory. Well, that is cool. And if it doesn’t work… Do you have international friends? Well, I have an old roommate that went back to England I’d rather not speak to, but for the purposes of this. Okay, hold on, Jenna, you got lots of international friends? I do have international friends. Yeah, okay. Okay, yeah. Wow. Jamie just got kicked to the curb. No, it’s all good. When Jenna comes back from her from a trip, she’s got… Friends in other lands. Many different new friends. I do. Of all stripes. Yeah. And so… There you go. She’s gonna be contacting all of them and getting them, in fact, all of the international voicemails from here on out on “Ear Biscuits” will be Jenna acquaintances and friends. So we might, it might get a little narrow in the perspective, but… Hey, what? I’m just saying. I mean, just like relatively speaking, you know? Okay, I’m done. On the narrow, people. I’m done. You got questions for me? Well, I… I want you to talk about your sweatshirt. Oh, my sweatshirt. Now… Can you see on the camera how beautiful it is? So just to paint a picture for audio only. Yes. You have a white sweatshirt. It’s actually a- North Face. North Face embroidered logoed, off-white, completely white sweatshirt. Purchased at a necessary time when I was getting ready to go to the NC State versus Carolina football game and realized it was going to get down to 37 degrees while I was in the stands. And I was like, “My jacket is not strong enough, I need another layer,” and purchased this at a Dick’s Sporting Goods. Okay, but it’s, you know, a baggy white sweatshirt is… It’s kind of an in right now. It’s cool. Yeah. Of course, it has purple splotches- Oh, what are you talking about? Yeah. Now, you say now? Well, I’m saying I’m looking at it. And I’ve seen it before and it didn’t have that. Okay. And then I saw it… I was there for this story, so I’m just kinda teeing you up to tell the story of why your white sweatshirt… Is now fashionable and cool? Has- Like more fashionable and cooler than it was? Wine stains all over it. Like. Okay, well, lemme tell this story. A wine… It also- And like a sommelier- Could also- Like vomited on you. It smells like wine and a campfire. It does smell like wine. And I will now unfold why. I was at a gathering of people DJed by Elkhound Snuggle Baby. There you go. I mean, a gathering, that kind of undersells it. Okay, what do you think it was? Well, I’d like for you to come up with, come on, come on, now. A kickback is what one person called it. Okay, hey, that’s better. And it was quite a kickback. Many great smooth tunes were played. That’s right. Amongst friends, some of our closest friends. So, record spinning party? Record spinning. Record spinning party. Kickback. Kickback. You know, it wasn’t a dance party, it was a listen and- No. Listen and mingle. Yeah. And, at some point, someone proposed the idea that we drink alcohol. Yeah, not a bad idea. Yeah, and we were like, well, what do we got here? And we were at the Creative House. I’ll say that, ’cause that helps too. Yeah, yeah, ’cause that’s where my, that’s where my vinyl set up is. That’s where your stuff is. And we have somewhat of a stocked, I mean, there’s like snacks there, and there is like some various whiskeys and stuff. We don’t really drink that much. Yeah, there’s- But people do, and so you… There’s like leftover beers from when people have come over and brought their own beer. Yeah. So like, there’s, there’s like a disparate assemblage of beers in the fridge. But one of our friends was like, “I would love some wine.” And I was like, “I don’t know if we got wine.” I don’t know, I don’t think we have wine. But we should have wine, like, we should have wine. You should always have a bottle of red, a bottle of white. You should have it just for social- Yeah, yeah, didn’t think we did. Purpose. But I’m like, “Oh, we do have wine.” And so I went back, I was like, “We got wine,” and I was like, “We don’t have a bottle opener.” I’m not gonna give the exact details of how I got this particular bottle opener that I got, because it… Okay. I’ll explain to you later why that’s the case. But let’s just say over the course of about 20 to 30 minutes, 20 minutes, I commandeered a bottle opener, from another friend. Yes, a wine decorker. And it was one that this particular friend was willing to part with because he said quote, “I don’t like the way this one works, so I’ll give this one to you and you can have it at the Creative House.” Okay. I was like, “Great.” Go back in and begin doing the deed. And when I say that, I mean opening the wine. And boom, I… It was one of those you screw in and then it’s got the two things that you pull down, and it pushed down, and it pulls the thing up with leverage. And is often the case with these, apparently the cork broke in the middle. You pulled out the top half of the cork? Because you don’t have as much, as my friend was explaining, you don’t have as much control over the simpler ones where you can like adjust your position and stuff. And this is sort of like whatever happens, happens. Yeah. And it was too much tension on the cork, broke it in half. So I was like, “Well, damn it.” ‘Cause that other half is stuck at the same place it’s always been. Yeah. And so I was like, well, what I’m gonna do, because I’ve encountered this situation before. I walked away at this point, I think. I’m glad. I was kind of… I saw you opening it, and I just, I saw the first half come out, and I just walked away. I just, I couldn’t, I couldn’t be there for it, you know? You gotta know when to hold ’em, you gotta know when to fold ’em, you gotta know when to walk away. Hmm. That’s when I walk away. You abandoned me. But as you will learn, that was a smart move. So I took the butt end of a butter knife and started… That. Creating some. Boom, boom. Upward and downward motion. You were- Pushin’ it down, ’cause what else can you do? You were jabbing it, and you, so you were gonna force the cork- You force it down, and then you just pour around it. Into the wine? And pour around it. It’s not that big of a deal, the cork has been in, this is the bottom half of the cork. It’s not like putting the top half of the cork in the wine. Okay. You know what I’m saying? This is like bottle… It hasn’t been exposed to anything except wine. It hasn’t been exposed to anything, except wine. You were gonna make a little floater. And I didn’t wanna do that thing where you start trying to pick out the cork, ’cause then it becomes a bunch of little pieces, and then you have to strain it. I wanted to push one whole cork down, and then pour around. Mm-hmm. And, of course, the wine underneath the cork is… It’s got nowhere to go. It’s pressurized. And the air is as well. And as I pushed it down, it released, but also, the force of the wine came up and fountained out… Into the kitchen and onto yours truly, and onto this sweatshirt. It’s hard to imagine that it fountained out enough to put as much as is on your shirt, but… Okay. I just… Put a pin in that. Was there? You’re sayin’ it just splooshed out big time, so it wasn’t just the splash of the cork- No, no, it wasn’t a splash, it was pressure. Hitting the wine, it was… It was pushing down pressure, and then releasing around. Making more pressure. And you didn’t see it, ’cause I cleaned it up. So it went up, it went all over the cabinets. It went all over the fridge. It went all over the counter, and it went on me. Now, somehow miraculously, it only hit my sweatshirt. And I will say, the first thing I did is I cleaned up the stuff on the cabinets, ’cause I was like, I don’t want this red wine to dry. Do you remember what music I was playing at the time, was it appropriate for this? I gotta say, I lost track. Oh yeah, okay. I lost track. All right. But that would’ve been a little too much to expect from you to like be, you know, soundtracking that? Well, the bar is high. I’m capable of so much. So, yes, Link, this is not nearly as much wine. Well, no, this is way more wine than actually spilled on me. Well, you came out to where we were outside and you brought wine to the person whose idea it was to drink wine. And I said… She seemed pretty happy. I said, “I hope this is the best glass of wine you’ve ever had,” as I showed my shirt, which had basically, I would say, between 15 and 20 small dollops of red wine on it. And then I was like, does it come out of a white sweatshirt? And they were like, “Ah, you’re gonna have a tough time getting rid of that.” I was like, “Well, it’s kind of cool. I’ll just go all the way.” It seemed like it could be cool. I was like, yeah, it could be cool. I mean, there’s just not enough of it to seem intentional. And I own a couple of shirts that have an approach where somebody just took paint and just threw it on a sweatshirt. Yeah. And I bought them for like, large sums of money ’cause somebody figured it was a good idea. Right. So I took it out there, I hung it up, and I took a spoon, I dipped it in wine. And it was dark, and I just sort of flipped the spoon at the shirt. And then I brought it back over to the group, I displayed it, and they were like, “That looks great.” Your wife, Christie, said, “Dip the cuffs.” Right. Yeah. And so I took the cuffs and I dipped the cuffs in wine. Yep. And… That right there was the stroke of genius. And I feel like at this point- I usually only want her to stroke my genius. Oh, God. But that’s what, that right there is what tells me this is an intentional artistic move, not just a small, “Yay, it gone wrong.” And I could do this for any sweatshirts, if you have a white sweatshirt, I mean. Turn around, ’cause you did the back too. Yeah, yeah, I did. I love this because I get to see the back of your shirt, and you can’t talk into a mic anymore. It’s great. Well, tell me about it. I did not know… Now that you told me that you’ve used like a spoon, you like spooned it on there, you like dollop it out. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, I took a spoon and threw it- Yeah, you dolloped it. I didn’t pour it, I flung it. Yeah, I can tell, ’cause there’s like, there’s impact points, and then there’s tails in a couple of places. Yeah. That’s nice, man. You really- And I could do it a couple of different ways. Instinctively went with a very good technique right from the beginning, because- I really think a paintbrush dipped and flung. That would be a different thing. I think you’ve really got it. Version two- Spoon dollop. Well, this is the question I have for you now, because as I looked at this last night with Jesse as it was still wet with wine drying, I said- It it dry right? Yeah, it’s dry. Yeah, it’s dry. I was like, “If you were, you know, if you saw somebody wearing this, would you think that, A, they had been in maybe an accident?” But then, I think you would look and you would be like, “No, it’s purple. Oh, that must be intentional.” Maybe it’s not your taste, whatever, but you would assume that it was one of those… Yeah. Artsy things. Yeah, you’ve pulled it off. But I feel like I’m tempted to give this sweatshirt a series of lives. I started with wine. I think I might move to a different substance for my next phase of this. I think it has to be- And I might own it for many, many years, and pass it to the next generation. This is a good idea, but I would encourage you to keep it honest. Only when it gets stained? Wear it to your next thing, like wear it out to a hot dog thing. I don’t stain myself very often. I mean, that was unusual event last night. Well, you know, maybe you, maybe you’re eating a hot dog, you get a little mustard on there. And then you’re like, “Break out the mustard dollop spoon.” And then, you’ve got a story to tell. “Yeah, this is when the wine happened, this is when the mustard happened.” That would be wonderful if I could pull that off, but I’m afraid that that, I think I’m gonna start being messy on purpose, and I don’t want that. I’d rather be Ronaldo. I didn’t get that reference. Yeah. Is he a… Oh, I get it. Like 70% of the world did, but it’s cool. I understand now. The global audience got that. Hold on, I do get it. Football. Yes, it’s football, yes. International football. So I… Yeah, I’m pretty proud of it. Just enjoy that for a while. Don’t… I mean, ’cause mustard wouldn’t be the next move. I don’t think mustard would look right. I think mustard’s gonna dry weird. I wonder if there was a different type of wine, like maybe a Merlot, maybe a Malbec. You want me to just do different wines? And then, I wonder, it’ll be a different shade. Oh, very close though. Very close, but subtly different. I think it would be a loss. It’s just a wine shirt? Well, what else would you do? If I did it intentionally- Soy sauce? I would start doing, like puff paint. No, no. Can’t do soy sauce, that stuff stinks, man. Well then, what? What would be next? I gotta look at staining liquids. Yeah, it doesn’t… Like, what leaves a good stain, blood? See, I don’t want blood. It’s already too close to blood as it is. Well, you know, I’m talking you outta mustard, ’cause mustard is messy. It just implies slob. Barbecue sauce, I think any type of… Like I think you need to go with another type of beverage, like what’s a good beverage? Sunkist? Sunkist. I just think it would… I think Kool-Aid is pretty staining. It’s gotta be something that really isn’t gonna get lost in the mix. Baja blast? Baja blast? It’s blue. Is that stainy? Oh, okay. I don’t know, but it’s blue, and it would go with the Blue would be nice. We stock it. And I also think you could go with bleach, just some bleach dots, and then that would, because this is an off-white, and then you’ve got like this like pristine white thing happening too. That feels like maybe face, like a another… I think maybe what I’m gonna do is I’m going use this as my personal canvas. And then, I’m gonna basically take what I learn in splattering sweatshirts, and then I’m just gonna start selling my own pieces. And I’m gonna get- No, you’re not. Yes. I’m gonna get like $5 Amazon sweatshirts, right? I want the margins to be through the roof, and I’m going to stain them, I’m gonna just… I’m gonna put ’em all up around me in a room, and I’m just gonna Jackson Pollock that shit with all kinds of things. I think you should- And then I’m gonna sell ’em for $500. I think it should be a lifestyle of slob. I think you should wear it and just go ham on whatever it is you’re eating. Could be ham, you know? You get a little sugar glaze all over you, and so, then it’s… I don’t know. Rhett worn slob wear. I feel like you’re, I just don’t think, I don’t think you’re taking this seriously, and I also think you’re giving me bad ideas. I’m actually making it more authentic and honest, and more valuable. Rhett wore this and spilled something on himself, turned it into a piece. I gotta start- Now, you can own it. I gotta start being messier, and I gotta start hanging out with messier people in messier places. And I gotta start telling people this, according to your plan. Are we breaking up? Is that what’s happening? And then I gotta like make sure that I’ve got the right substances. I’m like, “Don’t bring anything that doesn’t stain to the party.” What kind of idiot says that? It would be fun to have you at a party and just to spill things on you. Yeah, but I don’t want it on my pants. You would be like the hired entertainment. “Now this big guy’s gonna show up in like all white or off-white clothing, and you just get to spill your shit on him. And then he’s gonna leave, and he’s gonna come back and try to sell it to you.” It would be kind of interesting if I put on a full white sweatsuit, again, from Amazon. We’re talking no more than $11 total for the entire outfit. Maybe some imitation white Vans, and probably a white headband. Whitehead band? Ew. A white headband. Oh. And then I, people make a little buffet for me of crazy staining things. And it’s like, then we all eat. And then I am the evidence of the things that we’re eating and the things that were drunk, and then that whole suit is like, the name of the suit on my fashion website is just the date and the name of the event. Can we insult you while we’re spilling stuff all over you? I like that as being part of it. I don’t wanna be like the object of everyone’s frustration. That’s too much to take on, personally. We could like give you hollow compliments. I think there should be no speaking while it’s happening. It’s a little gloatish. I do invite you to DJ the party, so. If you want to manipulate and control the entire crowd with your music, and incite them to violence. Well, not violence, but to just messiness, then I’m open to that. I’m excited for you. Can I take a few moments to just pick your brain a little bit about the party? Oh, okay, I was about to move on. ‘Cause I am curious about some things. You know, I’m looking… I suggested that we have a record spinning party to have our friends get together because, A, our friends needed to get together, and some people from out of town who we don’t see that often. And I’m, you know, I’m just looking for a opportunity to spin these records and to like practice being more of DJ, which also kinda made me the host of this thing. But, I limited myself to just the vinyl until we got off of a like Kendrick, Drake beef, and we like revisited all those in chronological order. I had to do that from my phone, that was pretty fun. But like, so for like, you know, it might’ve been three hours. Before leading up to that, I like stuck to just plain records, which is fun for me, and like a challenge to work within what I’ve got to curate a vibe for people who are like, like we said, not dancing, just hanging out and kinda catching up. So like there was… There’s this art to like, what do you play for this type of get together, and what volume? And I had to… I was… You know, I like to overthink these type of things, ’cause there’s like a science to it. I think that, at least with this particular crowd, I think that the value in what you’re bringing to the table is mostly encompassed by the role that it plays as background music. Right, we all know each other really well, and we are catching up. And usually when we hang out, it’s just background music and we’re just talking and catching up and having a good time. In other words, I don’t really know. Like I’ve been to listening parties before, but it was always like, “Hey, I wanna play some of my new music,” from like an artist friend or something like that. Like I’m playing my album for you guys, and you’re sitting down and you’re all listening to it together. That’s listening party to me, right? Because we’re there to listen to this particular thing. Right. Listening party that’s friends getting together who, what those friends want to do is they want to talk, they wanna reconnect. Right. And so I think that the music in that context serves as an additional layer of social lubrication for people to connect and converse. And so, that indicates what the volume should be, which I think- Right. I mean, there was a couple of times where it was like, people told me, “Tell him to turn it down a little bit.” So then, I would say, get you to turn it down. Right. Because the music was a little louder than what you’d normally expect for a hangout. But then, I started turn, I was like, “Oh, everybody’s,” you know, when people are talking more. It wasn’t like I was standing back there the whole time, but I would turn the volume down. But then, if somebody showed up, and then all of a sudden the energy goes up, and everybody’s like, “I’m happy to see you and I’m talking at this volume,” you gotta bring the volume of the music up a little bit. It’s like, now, we’ve got like a new energy. I’m bolstering this energy. Right. But then, you get gotta bring it back down. Then you gotta change gears. And then, nobody, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it should be the type of thing that no one should think about. I think that my- Unless you’re actually listening to something. My take on it is that the… Everyone else’s experience of it is, should be, and except for when we were like, “Lets listen to these, you know, these diss tracks,” or whatever and we were kinda focusing on that. Yeah. It is like, yeah, what is complimenting the vibe and the conversational mood or whatever? And that’s the value in it. But because it’s more of a tactile experience and a manual thing that you’re doing with records, it’s a cool aesthetic and a cool vibe for anybody who happens to like, look over there and think, “Oh, this isn’t just Spotify, this is a man playing records.” Yeah. Which is cool, adds to the ambiance. But I think that mostly it’s for your personal enjoyment, which is all that it needs to be for. Well, I think well had just enough people that it worked. Any less people and it would’ve been a little awkward. And it could have stood to, it would be more appropriate with a few more people. Then it becomes more of a party than a kickback where everybody’s sitting down and just talking. These are the dynamics I’m thinking about. How many people allows for what level of DJing. And then, what would happen, what would be different? If a few more people were, it would be more of like a mix and mingle party. It wouldn’t be like, everybody can be in one group around like a campfire and talk. Right. I think that’s a dynamic too. And there’s a- It’s the difference between a kickback and a party. Part of it is also like, if you have to be, if you’re doing like, “I’m gonna be playing records the whole time,” then you can’t stay in a conversation for too long. Right. That’s the other part of it. So, I mean, if that’s your choice, if that’s what you want to do, but that’s part of it. That is another factor, yeah. Am I gonna, am I at the party, or am I like, playing music? Yeah. Okay. I had a very good time. That’s what I wanted, that’s what I wanted to know. I had a very good time, but I could also, like when observing you, I could tell he’s really thinking a lot about this, which is great. But I wasn’t- We are experiencing the benefit of it. Right, to me, it was developing a skill that then I can apply to other things, and I wanted to do that amongst friends. So that’s why I was like, I said this is the type of party it was gonna be, it’s kinda like me learning all of this stuff too and giving more attention to that than if it was just a normal get together that we, like we normally throw. That was the difference. So yeah, I wasn’t quite as engaged socially for that reason. But I’m seeing like, what other type of events can I curate, and do I have the skill to kinda know what to play and how to play it? But you don’t wanna do a party? No, I would do a party. A party that you get invited to to do it, that you don’t know the people? I could, I would do that. But some of this practice informs that, so like- Which is different than a dance party. Right, yeah. Totally. But then there was like Ward’s birthday party, which was very much like… That’s what he wanted, a dance party. Now he wanted dancing. Yeah. Which in that case, it’s like a more, you’re like a more traditional DJ at that point. Like, you’re basically back there the whole time. Maybe you come out a little bit, but like that’s a different thing. That’s like people asking for songs and, you know. Yeah. That’s like DJing a dance party. Right. And which one do you want to do the most? I think the one, like the, like the DJ the non-dance party. Or maybe there’s a little bit of dancing, it’s like on the fringe of a dance party. Yeah, somewhere in between the dance party and the kickback is like this like sweet spot. Because the rub becomes if it’s like, if it’s a certain group of people and they’re like, “I’m going to a party and I’m connecting with people,” you know, we have friends who, like last night we got friends from outta town who are bringing people that they know, some of our friends are like people who are like, “Oh, this person should meet this person because of the work that they do.” And so we kind of like curated those kinds of connections, which is very cool. And so, like talking to somebody about their work or whatever. Yeah. And… Like it was the perfect vibe for that, but if you try to make it where you’re like, “Hey,” like you can’t get to a place where you’re trying to draw attention to the, get everyone to draw attention to the music in the way that your attention is on the music, which you didn’t do that. But I’m saying it’s just like, “Tonight I will be playing the, now I’m moving into this.” Obviously, that it’s like a vibe thing. It’s very much a different thing other than- Right. Because I can imagine there being an actual listening party where it’s like, “Tonight, we’re going to be listening to this genre, and then we’re going to talk about it.” And there are some people who would want to do that. And I might even want to do that if that was why I was gathering, but if people aren’t told explicitly, “This is about the music.” Like if it’s about the people, then the music compliments the interactions, which is what last night was. Then when it becomes about the music, the people have to… That’s a different thing. And that group last night, like our core group of friends would not, they wouldn’t wanna do that. Right. They would bristle at the idea that it has to be about this music. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I think I can assemble a group that would understand that this is more about the music. Yeah. So, I’m interested in doing that too, throwing that type of party. And that’ll be a different set of people. Turns out there’s a lot of different, very specific types of parties that you can throw. That’s right. And you get, but you get, as a DJ, you gotta know what kind of party you’re at. Including one where your friend wears all white Amazon sweats and eats like a pig. There you go. Okay. And stains himself. Yeah, okay. And maybe I soil myself, I don’t know. Stain the insides. Nope, nope. I don’t mean to just say, “What about my shirt?” But we should say something about, what about my shirt? “Caring is cool,” that’s a good shirt. You know, Link, that’s actually part of our Always Proud Collection. There’s no stain on it. Which we’re always expanding the Always Proud Collection. We’ve now got a cropped tee, because people are doing that now. Oh, really? We got a tank top, ’cause those are coming back, and we got a rubber key chain. Very safe. Okay. And again, as is always the case, or as is the case, we always do something like this, but this year we are, a portion of the are benefiting our friends over at Outright International and the work that they do. And you just go to mythical.com if you want to purchase any of that stuff. “Ear Biscuits” is supported by Etsy. We’re here to tell you that there’s no reason to panic the next time you’re searching for the perfect gift. Now, you can use gift mode on Etsy. 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Like the thing that like jumps out at me as the, this has to be the right answer. It’s so obvious. Okay. And I’m… And it’s not the top half. Well, I mean, does that include your head? It’s like- Well, that’s why my answer is. It is… Not the bottom half. It is a lateral split. It is the right side or the left side. It’s one whole side of your body, because then you’ve got the other side that you have the best of both worlds. You have the benefit of, you have a robotic part and a natural part to every single part of your body. And then there’s a, I actually thought about this recently. Well, there’s some things you can only have one of. It’s interesting, the symmetrical nature of the human body in that there are two of everything. And then the things that line up on the center, there’s one of those, your nose, your mouth, your goozle. Your sternum. Your belly button. Your penis. Your wiener. So, is the wiener robotic? Half of it is. Ah. I don’t, actually, now I’m second guessing. I don’t want half, I don’t want the right side of my wiener to be robotic. Oh, how about the left. Or that, I don’t want one side to be robo, I mean, ’cause how does it change? I like the idea of this. I’m sure they can figure out. If they can figure out how to put half a man onto a robot, they can figure out how the dick works. I don’t… And I think this could be incredible, incredible innovation. Now, I don’t mean to get graphic here, Link. Can I dress to the side, you know, like the tailors talk about? Dress to the side? When a tailor asks you what side do you dress on, you know what that means? Oh. That means which leg your wiener hangs down. Okay, and so, what you’re saying is that you wanna keep. Because the tailor’s about to put his or her, or their measuring tape all the way up there into where your thigh meets your crotch. And if you’re dressing on that side, you something might get smooshed, or touched. It seems be a better term, maybe hanging on that side? I think this is is a great idea, and I think, first of all, the idea of having one robotic testicle. And again, we are, and Link, let’s just be honest, we’re 12-year-old boys trapped in middle aged men’s bodies. I’m fine with a robotic testicle. If you don’t know that yet, then why are you still here? So we are gonna talk about a robotic dick for a little bit. Yeah, and we’ve gotten to it pretty quickly. One robotic testicle sounds… Good, fine. Hey, is it heavier? I don’t know, GPS? There’s lots of things you could do with that. How heavy… GPS. It’s a little computer, basically, you know what I’m saying? But I’m saying- Could it be magnetized and I could stick my keys to it? You could do whatever you want to. Because I wouldn’t lose my keys. Just talk to the engineers, but let’s just talk about, let’s just talk about the penis itself, okay? Why? But the way you’re say, when you say, why are you saying it like that? Just say wiener. It’s how it’s how it’s pronounced, penis. Have you read it? Have you read it? Have I read it? No, I haven’t- Have you read the word lately? It’s penis. It’s not P-E-E-N-I-S. I just don’t know if you’re doing it ’cause you think it’s funny, or because you’re, I’m starting to question whether you’re just wrong. Okay. I’m doing it for about four different reasons. Can I list them? Number one, I love making people- You’re gonna need at least four because no one will stand on its own. The main reason is I think it’s funny, right? I don’t care what you think. The second reason is I know that it makes a certain percentage of the population believe that I actually don’t know how to pronounce it, and that brings me joy. Okay. Okay, the third reason is I believe that by saying penis it doesn’t get written out in the captions as penis, and that like does something for engagement. And the fourth reason is, I don’t have one. It’s just three reasons. Yeah, you gotta come up with you gotta come up with a fourth reason. So anyway, I think that, first of all, some men as you age, the idea like of having some kind of the reinforcement is actually pretty intriguing, right? I mean, there’s some guys that will have some kind of pumpable rod inserted. And what I’m saying that like, if half of my penis was… Metal. Was, not metal, it’s some sort of robotic silicone, reinforced, I don’t know. It could end up being in a long-term more reliable, and then my- How long? Exactly, you know? Well, but only half of it, only one side of it. Right, but my natural half could probably use some encouragement from the sili, the new part. You know, I don’t know what can happen. Seems like something that could go sideways, literally and figuratively. I just don’t- It probably could go any way you want it to, that’s another thing. If half of it’s robotic- It makes me uncomfortable. Well, I’m just exploring the first thing that we all thought about. And, so anyway, yes, I would definitely do it, and it is definitely the right answer. The connection- Picture being made outta sheet metal. The connection is worrying. Let’s get back to the top, the other head, the brain. So, half of your brain becomes robot. The idea that half of your brain would be a computer and it’s directly interfacing with the natural half of your brain. That’s cool. We’re talking just an incredible life at this point, right? I mean, ’cause we’re assuming that the engineering is working out. There’s no way it’s gonna be flawless though. It’s like, “Oh, my right eye, my right eye has a 300x optical zoom, and my nose,” all this stuff is robotic on one side, and it’s doing all this crazy analysis, but then it’s immediately interfacing through the power of your brain with the rest of your body. That is an amazing life to live. Half your tongue. Your boyfriend or husband or whoever you said it was- Is tasting. Okay, one of you is 100% right, because there is an obvious answer. Now, if your guy said that the answer is obvious and it’s the top or the bottom half, he’s just wrong. You know, but you lose internet connection and all of a sudden the right half of your body doesn’t really work. No. Ah. You go offline. Sorry, I gotta, I gotta drag myself to, yes, you’ve got an offline mode, but like it doesn’t do anything for you. Robots don’t have to have wifi to function, they have to have wifi to get to the internet. But it would be designed that it will only work in a robust fashion when connected to the internet, like everything else. Why would I design it in that way? It wouldn’t work. Because everything is designed that way. Yeah, no it’s not. Everything is. This microphone works great and it’s not connected to the internet. But you and I both know that if we were, if half of your body was a microphone, it would have to, it would be robustly internet integrated. Offline mode, everything still works, it’s just you don’t have access to the cloud, but you’ve got it least a three terabyte… I don’t think you’d be able to taste. Drive. You gotta you gotta be connected. You gotta be connected to the internet in order for that side of your tongue to taste. Why would that be the case? It’s just how it would be. Maybe, firmware updates maybe, yeah, but we don’t need the internet. Well because you can’t, we can’t, you know, we’re not storing all that information. It’s all in the, all the tasting information is in the cloud, so you have to interact with that. It’s like, that’s just how it would be. No, the tasting information files will be downloaded. And if you were like, “I would like to enjoy black licorice on the left side of my web tongue, on my robotic part,” then you could program that. You could download that module, and then once it’s there, it’s there. So if you were stuck, if you went on vacation, here’s what might happen. Let’s say you go on vacation and you go to a place that’s got bad wifi. Like, “Shit, I didn’t download the stuff.” You downloaded the licorice thing. You didn’t, you forgot. You were going to, but then- Oh, you were going to like a licorice country where they all this, all they eat. And you were planning on chewing on that one side of your mouth and then you can’t get on the internet, that could be a problem, but I don’t think it’s a non-starter. I think that’s an easily overcome form. I’m just trying to be realistic about how this would actually run out. Now, you played a man in a series that we made that had the lower half of his body replaced by a robot, if you don’t recall. That’s right. Played by a doctor who did the surgery, that was me. Yeah. Why did my character me choose the bottom half? Because you were replaced by, it was, at the time, it seemed like a great idea. You were replaced by a robot. At my job. At your job, and- I was jealous. The girl that you had a crush on, who was your coworker fell in love with the robot, Ricardo or whatever his name was. Yeah. And I think that you started turning yourself into a robot so she would love you. And also, your personality was very robotic. Yeah. And systematic, and it was like what you thought to be the case. There’s probably another plot point that I’m leaving out. But yeah, you did that. And plus, there was, we didn’t want to do the cyborg thing. You know, the DC Comics. Never watched the movies, but Cyborg, he seemed like half his face was robotic. That’s the right answer though. I mean, did she not give her answer? Well, I think that the point of our answer was to settle the debate, or to spark it, I don’t know. Well, that’s it right there. We agreed, we agreed the whole time. Even with your wifi snafu, you still agree? Right. Yeah, and even with the, even with the wiener being half sheet metal. Just think about it, like one arm being so powerful, and a hand that could crush things, and then you got a foot for kicking things. There’s so many different things. I don’t know what happens on the inside. The intestines get a little squirrely, ’cause you’ve got a bunch of connections that need to take place. But it could be like, “I’m gonna eat, I’m gonna store that on the robotic side of my stomach.” Yeah, that’s interesting. Your liver’s gotta, you gotta pick which side your liver’s gonna be on. The liver’s on one side of the body, and I think I want the liver to be robotic because it’s like a filter for everything, and I never have to replace it at that point. Whatever the side- Well, it would be more easily replaceable. Yeah. But if I, what’s on the other side? But that’s also determining what side of the brain is replaced, and of course each half of the brain has a different focus. I do get concerned about the things that are like shared. Like when you, I mean, when you really get down to the sphincter, it’s like the cooperation between the human natural anatomy and like, a mechanism to control only half of the sphincter. I think that’s… That’s bound to go haywire. It sounds like it could get infected, there could be problems, but I’m just assuming that in this theoretical example, that connection is perfect. I think you gotta start with what side of the brain do you wanna be robotic? And I assume that you would want the left side to be robotic. I know the left right brain thing is not actually- I’m just gonna- Pronounced as they say. I’m changing my answer. But the left side of the brain is technically a little more technical. I’m just gonna go with below the belt. And so you want that left side of the brain to be the more robotic side. You don’t want your quote unquote creative side of your brain to suddenly be robotic, right? ‘Cause then you just got AI algorithms feeding all your creativity. I’m going below the belt robot, but it’s a horse. So, you know. It’s like “Westworld?” Yeah, like a, I’m a, I’m a minotaur, a robotic minotaur. I don’t think that was an option. You can’t change species. Okay, all right. And I think Christie would have some something to say about that. Okay, yeah. Yeah like, “Where’s my saddle?” That’s what she would say. Oh, God. All right. Another voicemail. Hi, this is Russell Hibbs, and I just had a question about what do you do if you have spent the past three to five years in the same field, and all of a sudden you wake up every morning hating that position. You used to love what you were doing, now you just, it fills you with dread. What’s the best way of just completely doing a 360 on your career life? Thanks. I… If you are feeling that way, and this is not just hypothetical, okay. Well, it’s good to be in touch with your feelings. And I think if you’re making this type of analysis and coming to these realizations, that’s good. You know, and not just saying, “Well, this is my life, I’ve gotta live it.” Like, you know, there’s a saying about a life worth self analyzing is worth having. There’s a saying somewhere associated with that, right? And I just want to set the groundwork that like, a life of self looking at yourself is- There you go, that’s a good way to put it. Is a good practice. Can we put that on a T-shirt? A life of self looking at yourself. Is a good practice. It’s a good practice. So, we agree with that, right? Yeah. It’s like, you know, it’s like don’t just, don’t assume that you’re trapped, and or don’t look at yourself. Don’t not look at yourself. Okay, because yeah, I was about to say. ‘Cause then you might not see what could happen. Are you using the human side or the robotics side of your brain right now? Or are you using the horse part? And you sound young. You got a lot of life ahead of you, and too much life ahead of you to be miserable if you’re three to five years into something. So, I like your line of thinking. I have what I’ll loosely call a disclaimer, and I’ve actually thought a little bit more about this general idea of people like us giving career advice. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn’t feel, it doesn’t feel like we should do it. And listen, that doesn’t stop a lot of people on the internet from doing it, but, and I may be, I may have read something. Honestly, it’s one of those things where I don’t know, I had a conversation with somebody about this and I don’t know how much of it was came from this conversation or from, I, so this may have been said, I’m sure it has been said. You know, taking career advice from someone who has, who’s a successful YouTuber. Yeah. Is like taking financial advice from someone who won the lottery. Yes. They can be like, “Well, you just gotta go to the shortstop every day and buy the scratchers.” It’s just like, listen, we got lucky. Like, we didn’t get here because we operated under some incredible plan. It’s like, there’s all kinds of circumstances and serendipity and luck involved in us sitting right here and being able to work together and do what we do. But it’s a “Both, and.” No, I’m not saying that we don’t work our asses off. I’m not saying that we don’t. And we looked hard for opportunities to then- All that’s true. Capitalize on if we could. But I, the thing that bothers me when people say, start talking about how hard they worked, is the implication is that most people don’t. Right. I know a lot of people, and everybody that I know works pretty damn hard. Like, everyone’s trying really hard. Yeah. They’re like trying really hard to make shit happen. Yeah. Maybe there’s some people who don’t care as much or whatever, but like, I just don’t think that that is the thing. I don’t think it’s like, “You gotta just try real hard.” So- I totally agree with that. So I’ll just say that the disclaimer is that we live in this space where we wake up every day and we get to get paid to talk about having half a robotic penis, penis, where Link gets to talk about his horse bottom and his wife riding him. And we get paid for that. When he says, “She would say, ‘Give me a saddle,’” ching ching ching ching. And you know what? Quarters going into our bank account? You can do it too. And- All you gotta do is work hard, you know? And you can be just like us. Anybody can make a YouTube video, just do it. It’ll happen for you, we guarantee it. And here’s another thing I’ll add to this. And we’re so out touch. We’re outta touch. That’s another way to it, right, we’re so out of touch. It’s like, do you honestly think that you can just realize that you’re not happy with your job, and then all of a sudden you can be a star? Another piece of this that- Yeah. Has recently changed my mind about. You can. Some of these things, and questions like this. Again, I don’t know if we’re getting to your answer, but maybe some of this stuff. We’re setting the groundwork for the answer. And I’m using, I’m definitely using the robotic half of my brain for this. I like to watch “The Rich Roll Podcast.” He talks to interesting people. He’s a former like ultra marathon runner or whatever, but he doesn’t really talk about that. He just talks to interesting people. And so he had a guy, this, I guess he’s a Harvard researcher or whatever. Scott Galloway I think is his name. And again, I don’t know everything that this guy says. I’m not endorsing everything that he says, but I did see a clip where he was talking about this career question where a lot of people like us talk about passion. “Find your passion, pursue your passion,” ’cause it just kind of sounds like the right thing to do. It sounds like the right thing to say, and we say it from this position of privilege where the thing that we are passionate about is the thing that we get to do. The point he was making was like, that’s not great advice. You should focus on what you’re good at, and what you will find most of the time that if you really lean into the thing that you’re good at, something that comes naturally to you, you will become passionate about it. Because a lot of times- You’ll enjoy it. Being good at something, the point he was making is that being good at something affords really incredible opportunities. A lot of times, there’s no guarantee, but getting really good at something and also kind of thinking about maybe like a place where there’s an opportunity where it’s not so crowded. Like, “I think I’m good at this type of thing, and here’s a,” this is a super practical answer, but like, “I’m good at this type of thing and thinking in this way, and there’s an opportunity in that field. There are a lot of jobs in that field.” You get into a place where becoming an expert on something, becoming someone who understands something and studies something deeply and does something really well, for most people, that will usually lead to a great outcome in which you actually can take pride and find passion in the thing that you’re doing. And of course, ’cause the thing he was talking about is like, you know, your passion, you know, like have a hobby, have something that you’re passionate about, but you don’t have to live in this world where you think that the hobby has to be the full-time job. And I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying, whoever, whatever your name is, who called, did he say what his name was? It was like Christian or Dennis, I don’t remember. Christian or Dennis. Yeah, one of those two is what’s coming to my mind right now. You’re still important. Just because we don’t know if you’re Christian or Dennis doesn’t mean that you’re not valued and important, and that this question is very important. I’m just saying that that’s another piece of the perspective that I’ve been thinking about lately, ’cause I have told people many times on this show and throughout my life to find, and I’ve told my kids this, find what you’re passionate about and then build your career around that. And I’m not saying that’s completely horrible advice, I’m just saying it doesn’t have to be that the thing that you do for a living is necessarily started out as your passion. Now, that doesn’t mean you gotta do something that you hate. That’s not what I’m getting at at all. I’m just saying that sometimes the passion and the engagement can come from like, “Holy shit, I’m actually really good at this thing that I didn’t even know about last year.” So, Rhett’s saying maybe just get a hobby so you can like look forward to being done with the job that you hate. That’s not… That’s not what I’m saying. That’s not a bad idea. If you’re in a situation where you’re three to five years into a job and you’re like, “Oh, I used to like this, but now I hate it,” you know, there’s a responsible and strategic way to start to push on other opportunities, or to create opportunities, or to find opportunities without, you know, just like cold turkey quitting what you’re doing and then you’re in some sort of like financial lurch. You know, there’s a responsible way to go about it, but just looking for doors to push on. I think having conversations with people that, you know, you never know what somebody might say that might spark. I mean, you’re asking us, so, you should ask other people too. You never know what’s gonna spark an idea, or a connection is gonna lead to a different type of job. Yeah. You know? And if you seek out people that are doing things that, people you admire or respect that are doing things that are engaging for them, whether it’s, whether it’s some a path you want to go down or not, it’s like connecting, like picking those people’s brains I think is a good idea. Maybe that’s what’s happening here. And then we’re saying, “Don’t listen to us, ’cause we’re just lucky.” I think you just gotta, if you’re not happy. Yeah. You know, you gotta find, think of it as more of a long play, but you gotta start to like to percolate some sort of a plan. Yeah, ’cause I, so all the stuff I was saying, again, wasn’t answering the question. You’re answering the question. I’m trying to. What I don’t wanna, what I wasn’t saying is that, “Well you should, if you’re good at it, you should just keep doing it.” I’m not, you know, you know, “Fun be damned,” I’m not saying that. If it’s just like, “I hate doing this.” Well then, okay, yeah. Like Link said, start trying to figure out something else. But I would say two things, A, agree with you about don’t just quit and without a plan, you know? Gotta be responsible. Transition into something responsibly. But the second thing is, what would it look like knowing that you don’t know what that timeframe is going to be? You don’t know how long it’s going to be before you transition from where you’re at now to where you’re gonna be. What would it look like as a practice to try to find a way to be engaged with what it is that you’re doing even though it sucks? Again, because you know that you like, it’s like if somebody wakes up and finds out that, or if you, like you break your leg, you know? You break your actual natural leg, not your robotic leg. Harder to fix that one. And you’re like, okay. In fact, we were with a friend last night who wanted the wine, who… Couldn’t get up and get it, ’cause… Had broken her foot and leg. And she’s gonna be, she’s in this thing on these crutches for weeks, right? And so, that sucks. And she knows that she’s gonna get out of those crutches, out of that cast soon. But in the meantime, finding a way to have perspective on it and finding a way to en, not enjoy it, but like find a new way to investigate it and experience it where you can still maintain your joy despite the fact that you got a broken leg. It’s not a great analogy necessarily, but I would just say that I think that could be beneficial too. Find a way to be engaged, because you might be like, “Oh, I can find, instead of just thinking about the fact that I hate this, I can try to force myself to find a way to engage in it, but also actively try to find a way to something else.” Yeah, yeah. But again, don’t listen to us because. Don’t listen to us. You have no reason to trust us. Yeah, we, I mean… It’s pretty flukish. Yeah. What happened to us, you know? I don’t tell my kids that enough. I mean, just last night. I’m a fluke. I stained my shirt with wine, and then stained it more so that I could wear it and talk about it. There you go. What a fluke. I mean, who am I to say anything? Yeah, so you’re out of touch. I mean, his wife told me to dip my cuffs in red wine and I did it and here I am. And that was, that really, that really set it off. Like, “Oh, he must have done that on purpose.” I like it. Maybe I was, maybe people will think I was working with grapes or something. You must be working with grapes. Do you work with grapes? I have a slight thing to add to his. Oh yeah. Thank you, Jenna. Rescue us. Give us some good advice. If they’ve been there for three to five years, a lot of times in those situations it’s you’ve, what you loved about the job is now something that annoys you because you haven’t been challenged. So I don’t know if maybe the thing to do is to look within the job and the field that he has to see if there’s a way he can stretch his brain more to see if that can help with his distaste of having to go to work, ’cause he’s still gonna have to go and work. And that’s an easier way of trying to find something within what you’re doing. And of course, yes, but obviously start finding something in a different field that you feel like you can do, you know, 40 hours a week. Yeah. That you’re happy or content with anyway, ’cause you’re never gonna love everything you do all the time. No offense, Rhett and Link, I don’t love everything I do all the time. Yeah. It’s because one of us more than the other, or? It’s the whole robotic arm thing. I don’t know. Right, yeah, yeah. We really crossed- Really, really crossed. Then you’ve got… Work is work, Work is work. Work is work. Okay, well that’s good advice. Work is work, you’re not gonna always love it. Stretch your brain. Yeah, stretch your brain. A lot of times you’re just a little bored with it, and it’s also the idea of, it’s a choice you make. Like, you’re going, you’re going to fall out of love with things. Like the, the emotion. It’s a natural process. Yeah, it’s a natural process, like the emotions you had around this career that you absolutely loved are going to go away and change. You’re resigning, is that what you’re saying? No. I say, you are going to change and your emotions are going to change, but the choice you can make. Do you have anything else lined up? I mean, what are you gonna, now what for you? What’s next for Jenna? For me? Oh, I’m gonna- I wish you well, Jenna. I’m gonna move to Ireland and open up a bookstore slash pub, that’s what I’m gonna do. Oh, dang. Yeah, sorry guys. See you you later. I’m going to come visit you. Is that the dream? That is a dream. That is a dream. Yes. All right. Half, well like, which half of you is robot? See, I think for me, I would want my non-dominant arm to be robotic. Yes. And- Smart. So you are going half seas on the whole body. Halfsies, but like, yeah, you have to go around certain, like I don’t want. Can’t do it. I don’t want my mouth to be robotic. Nope. Oh, you can speak any language outta one side of the mouth. Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m saying. But one ear. Mouth, wiener, sphincter. So that I can hear. You want those to be natural? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I might want ’em all to be robotic. The liver though, I like the liver idea. I could really use a robotic liver today. A robotic liver. Sorry. All right, I got a wreck to wrap us up. Jenna, thanks for, thanks for landing that plane. I appreciated that. We listened to this guy last night. I was discovering him last week, and everyone who already knows about this artist is like, “You don’t know about this guy? I don’t know about this guy.” Labi Siffre. L-A-B-I, Labi, that’s his first name. Last name Siffre, S-I-F-F-R-E. London Board singer, Labi Siffre has spent his career breaking down boundaries. The openly gay singer built a small cult following with works that dealt squarely with homophobia and racism. In addition to his many albums, the multi-talented Siffre has written several books of poetry, and also written for the stage. Musically, he’s known for his soulful high-pitched voice and thought-provoking lyrics. His single “I Got The” from the 1975 album “Remember My Song” received a modicum of fame decades after its release when its funky piano hook was sampled an Eminem’s 1999 debut smash single, “My Name Is.” So, he’s a seventies and into the eighties artist, still with us. In 1988, Siffre had a hit with his anti-apartheid anthem, ” So Strong.” All right, so check him out. I gotta put you onto my song, which you’ve heard in a, you’ve heard that sample. Oh yeah. And you’ll be like, “Oh, what? It was from another song.” Bless the telephone. Lots of these, great. Great, great artist that I’ve just discovered. Have at it. I’m gonna lobby some Labi. Thank you for joining us. Keep those voicemails coming. You know the number, we’re not gonna say it again, and we’re working actively on an international solution that may be WhatsApp. Yes. Christian or Dennis, thanks for your question. Talk to you next week. Hi, Rhett and Link. I was just listening to the episode about talking to strangers, and it got me thinking because I was just on a really long cross country roadtrip with my dad, and he decided that our goal every stop should be to talk to a stranger. So every gas station, every hotel, every best stop, we needed to have an interaction with someone beyond just, “Can I get the code to the restroom?” Or whatever, and I did not participate, but maybe if I’d heard this podcast beforehand, I would’ve. So next time, I’ll actually engage with that. Thanks, bye.