Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we’re going to, what are we going to do? What are we going to do, man? We’re going to be doing what we begun. We have begun to really enjoy. If you haven’t noticed, listen to your voicemails, answer your questions, respond to whatever it is you want us to talk about. I bet it’ll be fun. Right, Home Slice? Uh, it will be fun. I will say, uh, for those of you who are worried, I thought maybe you’d give me a nickname, but, um, okay, uh, Right, Home Slice? Yeah, Homeboy. Yeah, cause we’re both from the same hometown. Um, We’re not gonna stop talking. If we’ve got something that happened to us, if we go on a special trip, if one of us has a brush with death, We’ll do anything we want on this show. We’re still gonna talk about that. But in lieu of that, when we don’t have that, because we’ve squeezed ourselves like a giant tube of toothpaste and there’s nothing left, Then we will use the raw material of your life to bring you illuminated, educated, and free. Answers from two middle aged men who’ve lived a lot of life who’ve been in long term relationships with Women who were married to and men who were best friends with Uh, if we’re anything we’re loyal. Yeah, right Thank you for being loyal and for calling us one eight eight eight Ear pod one now. Do you want to hear voicemail or do you want me to talk to you about your glasses first? I think I can cover this in 27 seconds as long as homeboy doesn’t interrupt me, which is gonna be tough. 27 seconds could be a record. Can I describe them? There we go. For the listeners started right here at second one. I mean, you gotta remember, this is a and second podcast. And second, yeah, if you’re watching. You’ve already seen my glasses. If you’re listening, you’re like, he’s got glasses. So I have, I am in the midst of an eye procedure that I will talk exhaustively and extensively about. I’ve got videos, I’ve got pictures. Um, I am treating the issue that has been causing my red eyes for a long time. And, uh, boy, it’s gonna gross some of you out when you see these videos. But that’ll be a podcast in and of itself. And what I usually do when we film is I put drops in that cause my eyes to look white. But I can’t do that because I just had the thing and there’s, it’s swollen. So now I’ve got what I’m calling my recovery glasses. I wore them last night to a concert. My wife was like, I don’t know what I think about those glasses. And we walked right in the gates and the first woman I saw said, I like your glasses. So that’s all I needed. What do they, I’m like Ronnie Millsap, but how do they, well, there you, I can still see, but you can’t see. You can’t see the inflammation in my eyes. If you’re just listening, these glasses are, they’re aviators in shape. Tentative. Tentative. They’re green, but then the They’re 13 on Amazon. The lens is a orangish rose, and I can see your eyes under there. Right, but How is it helping? Because my eyes are red and my eyelids are red, and because you’re seeing through tinted glasses, it just looks like a man with eyes. Well, let me see that. Take ’em off for a second. You might be like, oh, it doesn’t show up that much, but on camera it’s like the way that you just don’t like how it looks, the camera process. So it doesn’t help you, it, you don’t like how it looks. You’re trying to Oh, yeah. Yeah. You don’t like the redness. Yeah. Yeah, because I like, I don’t wanna look like I, I get too many comments about that, you know? It’s just like, what are you, what are you stoner, bro? Okay. You know? Okay. So it’s for the benefit of the viewer. No, it’s for the benefit of you not hearing from the viewer. But also I’m experimenting with like last night when I went to this concert and it was right after the procedure. I drove from other side of town and my eyes looked like crazy and I couldn’t and I wasn’t gonna be like, I’m not gonna go to this concert with my wife because my eyes look crazy. I can’t put the drops in. So I was like, I preemptively bought these 13 sunglasses so that I would have. Something to be like, Oh, maybe this will be my thing. My, if, if I, if my don’t feel good about my eyes, I wear. These 13 glasses. I like that. Taylor Swift was recently spotted in a 100 pair of glasses that went viral. So maybe I can get, because I’m about a 13 out of 100 in comparison to her influence, maybe less than that. Uh, maybe I can get people to buy these glasses. He’s told me a little bit about this procedure and My doctor sent me video last night. Okay. All right. We’ll, we’ll come back. We’ll come back to that, but let’s, uh, let’s get into something more, more fun, but you look great. I do. I like them. Oh, good. Hi, Rhett. Hi, Link. My name is Alex and me and my girlfriend, Tara. We have a problem that we thought maybe you could help with. Um, we have a cat. His name is Polly and he really does not like you guys. Um, we love watching you, but he gets upset. Okay. When we do like he just really seems to not like it So I was wondering if you know, you could like give him a message or you know Tell him you love him give him a little encouragement and um, maybe he’ll stop, you know trying to like Mess up everything in our apartment whenever we watch you guys. Okay. Thank you. Bye I don’t get it. What’s what’s not to like if you’re a cat and we’re us? I mean, I’ve actually seen footage, reams of it, of people showing their cat enamored with us while they’re watching the show, just up there at the screen, just like looking, patting us. Well, maybe we’re not for every cat. Maybe Polly has heard the rumors. Maybe Polly knows that part of my brand. He’s not liking cats, even though it’s not even real. It’s just a, it’s just a thing we did for, for entertainment quality. It’s not totally fake either, though. I would not own a cat, okay? I have thought about potentially half owning a feral cat to cure the, kill the rats in my yard. Mm hmm. Uh, but I don’t know about the ethics of that situation. I had a half feral cat that was, uh, That was apparently feeding on the rats and then he went away and the rats he went away. He went away quotes. The rats came back with a vengeance. Oh, yeah. And, uh, boy, I, I wasn’t even there. Some of our friends were staying in our house when I was out of town and they said they were sitting out next to the fire. And they were like, a rat just jumped off of the wall and ran into the pool. Just jumped into the pool. Like going for a swim when I’m on vacation? Rats! So anyway, uh, I would like a cat for that. Maybe try cat statues. And see if that works. Rats are too smart for that. Probably are. But I know I’ve seen crow statues, I’ve seen owl statues. They apparently keep things away. I think the owl statue keeps the crow statues away. Yeah. Is that what it is? You can’t, you can’t put both statues in your yard? I don’t know what’s going on. The owls keep the crows. Owls keep a lot of other birds that will shit on your stuff away because owls are the king of birds. Oh. Polly, if you, uh The caller, if you would please bring Polly to the screen. Polly, come here. Hey. Giddy, giddy, giddy, giddy, giddy Get real close, get real close. Get real close, Polly. Hey Polly. Polly, you don’t like us? Oh now, c’mon. No, no, no. You don’t understand. The feline, this is a sign of love in the feline world. You think I’m flipping this cat off? No, I’m getting it to follow it. They love a middle finger. It’s the biggest finger on the hand. Well, I mean, if it had a laser coming out of it, maybe. Oh, no, no, no. They are naturally attracted to the largest digit. Look at that, Polly. Look at that. Look what I can do. Hey, Polly, look at what I can do. Look what I can do, Polly. You like me now? You like me now? You like me now? How do you like me now? I gotta say, it started to work on me. I think I fixed it. That was it, dude. I think I fixed it. That was it. I’m gonna try that on Sokka tonight. Flip her off. It’s good. They love it. Hello, Sokka. It’s the longest digit. Take a look at the longest digit. It’s how it works, man. Little update on Sokka in our house. Lily, you know, it’s Lily’s cat. And then she, you know, we get the cat, and then she leaves and goes off to college, and then we’re stuck with the cat. So, I said, Lando, it’s now your cat. Okay. You’re in charge of all this cat. Yeah. And, but then Lily will come back home. And what she will do is she will manhandle this cat in a way that we don’t do it. Like, Sokka does not like being picked up. She will pick him up all the time. Like, like love? Like forced love? Just forced love on the cat. And over the course of, Yeah, Jasper is in the middle. Jasper is friends with Sokka. Jade is not. So he kind of keeps his distance. When we’re lounging, but she’s, she’s forced him into submission over her last trip home. He gives up and relaxes and relents? A little bit more, yeah. And now when you pick him up, the claws don’t come out. Oh. He’ll still bat you and push, push really hard, but he doesn’t do it with claws. Oh. And so, And he’s starting to accept affection and he’ll crawl up if we’re watching television and the dogs are in their places on their selected blankets with selected humans then he’ll creep into the room and like find a spot with somebody else and jade no longer runs them off usually so they’re starting the starting to work together or at least be in the same room together do you think when lily. Is like done with school and gets a place of her own. She’s gonna take the cat. I don’t think that I don’t think Lando is gonna allow. Oh, do you think she’ll get another cat? She already has another cat Oh, really? There’s a cat at the place where she lived. Yeah at her apartment Oh, she already got another one. Does Sokka know? Probably for the smell. I told him. I don’t know Show them a picture. But Polly, you gotta, come on, you, you know, what’s not to love? I, I really don’t know why a cat would be triggered by just two guys talking. It’s, it is quite strange. Well, it might be one of us. You might need to put the cat down. We don’t know. You know? It might be one of those things. Right. Sorry, that was a bad joke. Yeah. I didn’t mean it. Yep. And I definitely didn’t agree with it. Nope, you didn’t. I seem to think that people who are cat lovers I’m not a cat hater, I’m not a cat lover They say that The quest to get the cat to like you as part of the, as part of it or something? I’ve heard people talk about this because people talk about dog lovers are just narcissists who need to be worshipped by these little beings or whatever. This is a, this is an uncharitable view, right? But I’ve heard it. And then people are like cat lovers. They don’t need that type of affection and not that cats won’t give it to you. And listen, I’ve, I have a tick tock account. I’ve seen the affectionate cats. Another way of saying that is I’ve seen cats that seem very dog like, right? So I just get the dog because yes, as I was walking outside with my dogs the other day, and I just think about the way that they. They make they do make me feel like I am a king coming home to my castle like it’s it’s crazy how excited they get oh yeah when I show up quite special and I will and I will readily admit that I just love that after a long hard day of entertaining people with your best friend oh my gosh it can be so hard I get home and if it was like there’s somebody I have to convince to like me right I don’t I’ve done that. I’ve been doing that all day, for a living. I want somebody who effortlessly likes me. You know what I’m saying? And uh, so yeah, I’ll admit, it’s probably why I’m a dog person. Yeah, I don’t even think, uh, Jade and Jasper think I’m funny. Right, they don’t care. I don’t get the impression that they care if I’m entertaining to them. Now they, there’s certain things that they want. Jasper wants to walk. Yeah, okay. Jade wants to belly rub. They can be demanding. Ear Biscuits is brought to you by BetterHelp. You know, I’ve, I got fears. 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Um, but I think like with group With graduating next year, and getting married next year, um, I’m just wondering if you guys have any tips on making the switch to being an early riser. Um, and doing all those things in the morning, and I’m talking early. Um, I don’t know, if you guys have any tips or ideas, um, to make the switch easier, or if this is just a discipline thing, and I just need to be more disciplined. Alright, thanks guys, I appreciate it. Peace. Common problem. He’s staying up till two and now his, his life’s about to be turned upside down, literally. Mm-Hmm. At least that’s what he anticipates. It seems like he’s anticipating that the night owl schedule will not gotta tighten up, will not be maintainable. It seems like he’s got so, so safe assumption. It seems like he’s gotta grow up a little bit. What he, he seems to be thinking and that he has specific plans. He’s like, he’s gotta get up and, I mean, early is what he said. So there’s some sort of obligation. Maybe a job he anticipates having. Hmm. Well, I see, I see this as there are two, two distinct paths, right? Mm hmm. There is the advisable path that you may receive on another more reputable podcast. Not here. Uh, Which, as a matter of fact, I was recently listening to, not a podcast in itself, but a clip from a podcast. It’s better that way. And a doctor was talking specifically about this, this conundrum, and he gave a, a, a regimen for, Slowly changing your sleep schedule if you are a night owl to become a morning person And it was exactly what you think about you don’t need a doctor to tell you that you basically just Start going to bed earlier and start getting up earlier and you just slowly shift the window over a period of about a month Doesn’t seem like who cares you add You don’t have a month jonah. Here’s what you you remember that show. Uh, there’s other ones like like scared straight I know the principle, right? And, uh, I’m not talking about those, uh, those camps where they try to make you not gay. I’m not talking about that. Oh. I’m not talking about that. Oh, that is what I was thinking about. Those are bad. What I’m talking about is that TV show where there’s kids who are just hellions out of control. Oh, and they go to prison. They take them to prison. And somebody scares them into being on the straight and narrow, which has nothing to do with sexual orientation. But the way that those start is A crazy person that looks like Sergeant Slaughter the wrestler shows up at your house and takes you and throws you into a van, right? Yeah, so I think we got to do something like that. That’s going to work really quickly So Jonah what you need is once you determine when you want to get up, okay Let’s say you want to get up at 7 a. m So what you’re going to do is you’re going to set an alarm for 7 a. m And then if you get up We’re all good. But over the course of maybe a week, what you do is you have a very Sergeant Slaughter like character in a van outside that if you hit the snooze, he has a little alarm on him, a beeper that goes off That then, he comes inside, and he just beats the hell out of him. Right. I think he’d be easy to find. I’m pretty sure there’s a whole category on Craigslist for this type of person. Former, former wrestlers. Like former wrestler living in van, early riser. Or football players who try to become wrestlers and didn’t make it. People who are available to beat up people. Willing and ready to inflict pain. Yeah. That’ll do it. And if, if a sergeant, I mean, I don’t know if you, you know, if you’re watching when I said Sergeant Slaughter the first time, we popped up a picture of Sergeant Slaughter just so you know what he looks like. But I don’t know, like, what’s the modern day Sergeant Slaughter? Hold on, we popped up a picture? Yeah, we could do that because What the hell? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when I say something like that, then it sets a whole team into action to go find a picture. I mean, this is on a power trip. I didn’t ask for an effect. I just asked for a picture of SS. Too much. Sgt. Slaughter. Too much too soon. Uh, but what’s a modern day Sgt. Slaughter? Who’s the scariest character that you could get somebody to dress up like that could beat the hell out of you? Uh, you know, it’s a scary person. Um, I’m kind of afraid of. I’m afraid of doctors. Like, you know, it’s like, you’re afraid that doctors are gonna do what? I’ll tell you what. Give me bad news. Tore my eyes up. Give me bad news, you know. So like, you, like a diagnosis. In your version, a doctor comes in after being beeped, which is appropriate, beeper. Yeah, he’s already got a beeper. He comes in and he gives you a, like a terminal diagnosis. It gives me a bad diagnosis. And the more I’m late, the worse my, I don’t like this. Exactly. I don’t like that. Yeah, you’re gonna, and then you have it. But you have that but you know that it’s not real. Okay. In my version, the guy does beat the hell out of you. Okay. All right. He’s got on soft gloves. So you can still get up and go do your job that day, but you know what I’m saying? You don’t get bruising to show you don’t get actual Black eyes, but it’s just like maybe slapping might be more body work. Maybe it’s one of those guys from the slap fights Oh my gosh, I hate I can’t watch that. Well, I don’t necessarily like watching it, but tiktok And Instagram think that I do because they keep showing me people getting the hell slapped out of them. It just doesn’t seem People get knocked out that way, man. Sustainable. Since when are you worried about sustainable slapping? What do you mean? Well, I mean, like, I’m worried For the individual? Yeah. It’s much more sustainable than getting punched by, like, a boxer or something. Is it, though? Well, I guess if you get hit with the heat of the hand, it’s hard. You’re standing there just taking it. Some of it. On the head. Yeah, and the cheek. And there’s no padding. Is there anything on the hand? No. Nothin on the hand! Uh, chalk. Nothin on the face! For grip. They use chalk? Yeah, yeah, you chalk up like LeBron and then you POW! So that when it hits the face it doesn’t slide? Yeah, yeah, you want to grip that face. So you can turn it. Seriously? Yeah, apparently you’ve never watched one all the way through. I’ve seen it, but like, it’s, it’s kind of like how I fix my hair. The longer it takes, the further back from the mirror I get. I don’t know why, I just noticed that happens. Sometimes I’m clear across the room by the time I’m done trying to fix my hair. Weird. Weird. And I can’t stop it either. It’s just like, as soon as I start rubbing my hands through my hair, I start backing up like, I want to know what people are going to think of me when they first see me, you know? Well, the hair has got to look good from across the room if you’re ever going to get closer. And then once it passes that test, I start coming back closer to the mirror and I kind of dial it in a little bit more. How big is your bathroom? You’ve been in it. Um, I mean, yeah, I’m kind of standing in the shower by the end of it. I think the slap, I think I’m amending this to the slapper. I, I, I don’t think you need a, a, it’s a hell of a way to wake up because I, because I gotta imagine that there’s a lot of people who are aspiring slappers but haven’t made it on the circuit yet. Yeah. This is like minor leagues. You, they can make extra scratch by living in a van. Yeah. And waking people up. You get like a single A level slapper. Who’s got, who’s out there in your front yard for a week. You get slapped one time at 709. Right. Your ass is getting up from then on, you know what I’m saying? At least for another week and a half. Yeah. You know. And they’re probably not that expensive. The other way to go, it’s because you implied that there was a whole other direction to go. Well, the first way, which was the legitimate route by the doctors. Oh, no. Well, then there’s a third way, which is stick to your guns. Kiona? You’re a night person. Use that to your advantage. But work third shift. I mean, you can It’s not healthy long term. Is it? It isn’t? You get paid more. Well You get paid time and a half if you work at night. Is that true? Depending on the job, but yeah. Security guard? People will get paid more for that reason, because Mm hmm. Not not as many people want to do it Well, some people are have a competitive advantage There is a there is this I don’t know if you’ve seen it when you look at your uh, Aura ring like readout it talks. It tells you like where your sleep lined up with your natural disposition You’ve seen this. Yeah, and this is a scientific concept that the way i’ve heard it explained is that the large majority of people essentially need You know, seven to nine hours of sleep every single night and they kind of need it in a typical window of like, you know, 10 or 11 to whatever, seven or eight, whatever. But there are exceptions on each side of the curve where people can be more like literally more morning people and literally more night people. So if you can, if you’re a night person. You do your best work at that time. Yeah. Then maybe you just find a job and a partner where these things all work together. Because I severely question the way that he worded it as, How do I become a morning person? Well just because you, Have the discipline to wake up to do your obligations doesn’t make you a morning person. A morning person, by my definition, is somebody who wakes up raring to go and they love it. They love getting up before the sun and doing the stuff that they do and having that. Oh, I get this alone time and I get the sunrise. But you can make yourself into that, though. You can. You think you can? Yeah, yeah. You literally can make yourself into that. But then that’s a philosophical exercise. Yeah. That needs to follow. So how do you do that part of it? Because that’s a personality like just Wanting to stay up all night like thriving in the dark, you know It’s a circadian rhythm type thing anti I guess but You gotta adjust your values. You gotta start really emphasizing those things that you hear morning people say. Like Top of the morning to you? Well, no. They say things like, I feel the world awakening. I feel I can palpably experience the new beginning. Oh, I’ve heard this. And it gives me hope and excitement. And I have time to It’s like somebody begins smiling in order to feel happy, which is also a proven concept. You smile, even when you don’t feel like it, and then it makes you happier. So you just start saying the things that a morning person would say. Doing the things that they would do. I start thinking of stuff, and then I have, I have my whole day ahead of me to then do stuff. Versus, If you’re staying up late at night, you’re, you can, you might get in a reflective mode, but what are you going to do? You’re going to sit there and get excited about the next day, right before you go to sleep. No, that’s going to make it harder to go to sleep. You don’t want to think about the next day. So being a morning person, you got that advantage. I have, just really quick before we move on, I have a fourth way. See, we’re full of advice. We’re full of it. You could find, Jonah, you could find someone who wants the same thing that you want, who’s looking for that, and you could volunteer. Or actually sign up maybe to get paid to be a minor league slapper for someone else who needs to get up. So then you got to be at someone else’s house. Oh. At seven o’clock in the morning to wake their ass up if they don’t wake, if they don’t get up and slap them. And then you get to, you, maybe you’ll make a little scratch. Maybe you’ll get, gain a new skill. Maybe you could do right and left hand slaps. And then you’ve got a job that requires you to get up and you’re helping someone else do the thing that you’re doing to help someone. And then you go to your second job, so now you have two jobs. Well, there’s probably people who want to be slapped all day. You could probably set up a slapping schedule that’s around the clock. There’s all kinds of reasons that people need to be slapped at different times of the day. There’s somebody who needs to be slapped at 3 p. m. Like a teacher. Who’s just finished a long day of teaching and doesn’t feel like Snap out of it! You’re doing the after school stuff, and it’s like, you’re an actual person. Boom! Come on! You still gotta do that, you gotta grade those papers, you know? A little boost. Yeah. Just a little boost. I’m talking about a healthy slap, you know? Okay. So that’s another option. You’re welcome. Hi, this is Becky from Iowa. Just listening to your episode with all the voicemails. Um. Specifically the one about the girl that’s going through a breakup. Um, I am a thousand percent with Jenna. Burning things, safely of course, is, uh, super important. Um, I went through a very destructive phase when I was going through my divorce. Um, burnt all kinds of shit, including all the letters, which I very strongly recommend burning for just the cringe factor is just off the charts if you don’t. Um, but I’m happy to report that 20 years later, 15? Many years later, uh, my ex husband is now one of my dearest friends. Um, so, just because you burn an effigy and do whatever doesn’t mean you can’t. Be friends down the line. Um, but yes, fires, fire is your friend. Fire is your friend, Jenny. You’re validated at every turn. Safe fire is your friend. Have you burned anything since last time we talked about this? Yes. What? Whoa. Not, not as like a negative to anyone, but like I, I burn things. What? You look like an incense or something? What do you? Well, yeah, I, I burn incense if like, if I’m trying to like let something go or whatever. I’ll like write it down. I’ll sit out on my balcony. And i’ll light it on i’ll light the little piece of paper on fire and be like great i’m letting that go Wow, so you’re you’re telling me in recent history. You’ve written something down. Uh huh On and then burned it on your balcony. Yes Okay All right, and what what in a jar? Um, yeah, I have like a little fire safe, I have like a little fire safe bowl that I use for, for burning things. Wow. Wow. I didn’t know when I asked the question the answer was going to be yes. That’s why you asked the question. Did you adapt an existing bowl or could we potentially sell a bowl that’s meant for burning stuff? From like, I think, isn’t that called relationship ashtray? No, no. I think we could, we could, we could market it. My bowl is really cute. It’s really cute. It’s golden. But um, yeah, I like this idea. I just got it from like a, a thrift shop and I was like, oh, this is, this is a bowl I could burn stuff in. And I think we could add some features that make it catered to this particular task of like burning things. It’s a therapeutic. Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm. , what would you call it? It’s a therapeutic burning ball. Yeah. Yeah. Write, um, it’s not an asray. You can write instead of paper, you can write on bay leaves, and then you’ve got like a fun scent and bay leaves, like do this really cool like crinkly sound. When, when you burn them. What kind of marker you got for a sharpie on a bay leaf? Yeah. Well, they’re dried bay leaves. They’re not. But yeah, you can use like a little marker. Okay. So we got to make different sizes. Cause we have to have one for burning up people’s clothes too. Right. Right. Yeah. You need a larger, the hoodie that your ex boyfriend left. That is, you can cut it up in little pieces. If it’s larger things than I plan it out and got a burn barrel somewhere. Jenna got a burn barrel that she turns over and uses it. She sits on it as a stool. Right, right, right. I like that. So, and okay. So the ceremonial. It is. The aspect of this is therapeutic for you. Yes. Can you give us a, like a general sketch of the genre of thing you were burning? Uh, limiting beliefs. Oh, limiting beliefs. Mm hmm. Mm. Something I was holding on to that was toxic for me and my growth. Hmm. How about, we’ll, we’ll. Okay. Alright. I get it. I get it. And you You wrote it down. Wrote it down. You burned it. Burned it. Let it go. And did you look at it while it was burning? And did you talk to it or is there more to this? I didn’t talk to it. Make sure it’s fully out and then dispose of the ash I usually put the ashes after they’re fully out or i’ll pour like water or something on them and i’ll put it in my compost this is the type of thing that There’s a japanese word for this Or hippie or potentially german word for it. No, I this is definitely there’s a japanese word for this because You I know that they well, first of all, this whole idea of ritualizing things and ceremonializing things is I love is I mean, first, it’s just it’s the way that we work as people, right? It’s like if you’re just like, No, I just want to and this may work for some people. I’m just going to make this decision. I’m just going to have this complete thought experiment within my own mind. That’s going to be transformative. But for Most of human history. We’ve needed some sort of physical ceremony Representation of the thing that we’re trying to happen make happen internally. So I like this Especially if we’re selling something to help people do it Yeah, you’re not supposed to say that I’m setting up. This is the this is the beginning of the marketing story You’re right. You’re not supposed to reveal where I’m going with it. Sorry about that You know, I’m trying to, I’m setting, I’m creating the need for the product that we provide. Don’t capitalize my thing. Too late. Just trying to help people. What if, what if breaking free from capitalist society was a thing that I burned, guys? Not healthy. Then that would be ironic. As long as the proletariat owns the means of production of these. of these vessels, then we’re all good. Stevie? Stevie! Stevie’s not here, dude. Stevie’s so capitalist, though. That’s what she came to mind. When we’re on a microphone and on a camera, we’re usually talking to Stevie. So, I just go back to it reflexively. Jenna? So, the advice has been confirmed. And, the interesting part of this is, the caller was not Um, uh, regretful in burning the letter to be the point, even after 15 years, 20 years later, they’re friends. And presumably as friends, maybe be like, you could read back through the letters and laugh at it, but the, the cringe fighter would still be too high. But it seems like the implication is that the burning of the stuff, which allowed for the processing of the relationship. Yep. Open the door for a new level of engagement many years later. Well, maybe, maybe not. You don’t burn stuff so you can then become friends with somebody. I’m not saying that, but I think it’s But it doesn’t close the door. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Burning stuff, it provides closure. If you had never processed it, then that new friendship would have been really complicated. Okay, I hear that. So it gives you closure so you can move forward. And then 15, 20 years later, It might lead to some sort of amicable arrangement of friendship, maybe It’s called the closure. The closure. And it it, and, and when you burn something, it plays a song by Hozier Ooh, . I do have different playlists depending on what I’m burning. And hozier is on the, like, he’s in all those playlists, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah. She’s got that vibe. Do you have any ambrosia on your list? On your playlist? ? Put a little of them on there too. So we play only songs that rhyme with closier. Closier. In fact Closier. Ambrosia. I think it’s hosier. It’s how people actually say it. Every time Isn’t it hosier and not hosier? I don’t know. Pope and Cher? We could call him Andrew. That is his name. As well. Yeah, but we don’t know him. Yeah. All right. Burn away is what we’ve learned. Yep. And I think we have a I love it when we get voicemails that say that we’re right. We’re right. Well, you know, I was right. I know you’re right Jenna was specifically right but collect as a show, you know Well, let’s see if we have any more of those to see if we have any more of those Jamie Hey Rhett and Link, my name is Dallin. I live in Idaho. I just listened to Rhett make the joke about how Mormons seem like they’re a nationality sometimes first of all, yes, we can take a joke and second of all, you’re absolutely right You There is a very distinctly Mormon look. If you were born in the church, there is actually a study, I don’t know who conducted it or if it’s reliable, that demonstrated that Mormons could with at least 60 percent accuracy identify other Mormons, which for a religious group is, I think, pretty impressive. So, we definitely all have some sort of look about us. Wow. Okay. Well, I feel like, well, first of all, thank you for confirming that I was right. I always love that. But also Mormons are a nationality. I think that we could do this with Baptists and Presbyterians. Yeah, I think if you put me and you down in front of a group of American Baptists and Presbyterians. Yep. Yep. We could parse them. We can separate the sheep from the goats, so to speak. And there’s only, I don’t think there’s a lot of people who could. And we all know who the goats are in this scenario. Who could do this as well as us. Because while we were both once non denominational. Before that, we were both Baptist. And then, and then I remained non denominational. And I got some Presbyterian. You went Presbyterian. Right. And, uh, I mean, I could totally just take those two groups of people and just, like, parse them. Baptists Don’t you think? really need belts. I don’t know what it is about a Baptist, but they’re Bridges are going to fall. They’re going to slouch. You don’t think Presbyterians need belts. They’re more likely to wear suspenders. I know that and bow ties. Um, Presbyterians tend to be, uh, a little less, um, rotund than a Baptist. Oh, wow. Even though the Presbyterian Is drinking more alcohol than the Baptist drinking alcohol too, but they’re, they got to stash it somewhere. They’re not letting anybody know. Yep. So you take a little sips, little sips, and then they might go on a little, uh, a bender when nobody knows, but the Presbyterian, you know, and, and then what happens is you’re like, Oh, I got, I got, I got some time to. Nobody’s watching, I’m really going to indulge. And then you’re, you get more of a beer gut. It’s kind of ironic. And then you gotta have the belt. I thought maybe because of the buffet. The Baptist buffet? That too, yeah. Because I feel like Baptists like to eat. But Baptists are a little bit more, um, They can be a little bit more legalistic. Right, than a Presbyterian. A Presbyterian, you know, you’ve got your Reformed theology, you’ve got your Calvinism, and there’s a little bit more of a like, we can only do so much, you know what I’m saying? Like, and so, uh, they’ll smoke a pipe and a cigar and, uh, they’ll drink a beer or have a good whiskey or whatever, and Baptists are like, They ain’t gonna dance, they ain’t gonna smoke, they ain’t gonna drink, but they’ll go to the buffet. Yeah. And you gotta make up for it somehow. Exactly. You’re setting all these vices aside, you gotta do something. Yep. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Okay, I can see that. That’s why they need a belt. I think we’re talking about Southern Baptists in particular, though. That’s where, that’s our people, that’s what we know. Yeah. Uh, how many people at your church wore a bow tie? There were, there was at least one. You won’t see a bowtie at a Baptist church. You’re never gonna see a bowtie at a Baptist, unless you go to the convention. Never been to the convention. I don’t think you’re gonna see one. I don’t think you’re gonna see one. You’re definitely not gonna see a pair of suspenders. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Um, yeah. Ha ha ha! Yep. We figured that one out. Hi Ryan and Link. Um, I am a huge fan of you guys. I have been watching you guys for a really long time. Anytime I have free time, I just Pre watch your episodes. And I recently started listening to the podcast. And now, anytime I have free time, I listen to the podcast. Alright. So, I was wondering, um, do you think that a relationship can come back from a lot of arguments? Like if you argue frequently, I know you guys don’t do relationship talk much, but You guys have relationships that I admire and I think you and both of your wives are very sweet and cute And you have beautiful families and I think that you guys have a good basis of How you got there? Um, so yeah, I was just wondering if you think that it could bounce back from arguing frequently Mm hmm See I’m curious what you have to say about this, because I think when it comes to arguing, something that I’ve learned from you is that some people like to argue. Now, I’m not saying you like to argue, but I know that, um, you know, and it’s the social dynamic with Jessie and like her family, like, what I learned from that is like, They enjoy arguing, at least to a certain degree. I’m an outsider. I’m just hearing this from the outside. Whereas, me, I’m like, I don’t want an argument. Now, there’s a, and so I think what I started to learn was there’s a difference between an argument and a conflict. Because I, I use the terms interchangeably. And so that’s what, that’s what started to open up for me, is that there might be a difference. Um, if both people in a relationship like to argue, then I, I, then I think that could work. I think maybe the term you’re looking for is debate. Debate. Okay. Because a debate is an exchange of ideas that is not personal. But then when it gets heated, Which easily happens, right? Then I’m like, Oh my gosh, did something just go wrong? It’s like, No, they just got into it. So my experience with this and as long as everybody’s on the same page, then that can be a form of enjoyment. My experience with this is like, Okay, so my family growing up, not much of a debating family, right? Like kind of the way it worked at our house is my dad had an idea And then everybody agreed with it? Or opinion and everybody just agreed with it. That was just kind of how it worked, right? Hey, you know what? And, and then you tell me and then I would agree with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we didn’t, we didn’t worry about any of that in my house. And, uh, my wife’s family was very different in that, yes, her dad may have had an opinion, but that didn’t mean everyone was going to agree with it. Right. So there, so, but so there is a. Healthy level of debate about all kinds of things and I’ve seen some people come into an environment like that and that’s not their family. And maybe this was me at the beginning. I think I kind of understood it from the beginning, but I’ve seen people come into it and be like, well, these people are all mad at each other. They’re like, they’re. Why does it get heated or whatever? And it’s like, well, it’s not, it’s, it’s a, it’s philosophical in nature for the most part. Right. But I don’t really think that’s what we’re talking about. To me, we’re talking about relationships. And the way that I, I’ve always described it is it, I, I have seen a correlation. It seems to move like this, that the, there’s usually a low frequency, high amplitude Or high frequency, low amplitude. They seem to be inversely correlated. Let me explain that. So some couples argue not very frequently, but when they do, it’s very intense. Big blowout. And some couples argue all the time. And it’s not that serious. Me and Christy, first few years of marriage, bottle up, bottle up, big blowout. Oh, you’re locking yourself in the garage again. How’s that even possible? Did you do that? Or she did that? She does that. She did that to get away. She does that? She did that to get away from me. Your garage is pretty nice, though. Like, you’ve got like a rug in there. Thank you. Now you know why. It’s a retreat. I mean, we don’t do that. We haven’t done that in many years, but um, yeah, I do think that’s why I kind of like, I make the garage a place where like, if I, if she has to retreat away from me, she’s got a comfortable space. That, um, you know. Gotta put a couch in there, maybe, or something. A lot of big blo big blow ups. Okay. Not a lot of them. Blow up mattresses? Is that what you’re talking about? Oh, no, not in the garage. Okay, cut it. And now, it’s like, little arguments that happen more often. Yeah, and that’s that’s more manageable and you you find we found this like and I’m not sweet spot Yeah, I’m this isn’t that there may be some couples who hardly ever fight and when they do it’s really low amplitude I’m this is not like right. I’m just saying that it’s a general observation But it sounds like what you’re saying is that there’s been Conflict like high high frequency maybe high intensity conflict and you’re like can’t a relationship come back from that. This could happen You Right. So, it happens in the movies, but I do think Well then that’s likely then. It do ha it do happen in real life as well. Okay. And that is, you’re arguing. It’s getting very, very intense. You’re talking about Hanky Panky. And then all of a sudden you’re just screwing. Yeah. Now I don’t know if that’s healthy or not. So that’s how you, that’s your foreplay? No, no, no. It’s like, oh, just start looking at like foreplay. No, no, no. I’m saying, if you’re in this predicament where you don’t know if the relationship can come back from all the arguing, just make it really intense. Tense one time and then just see if that can lead to sex and I think it does so you’re arguing How do you assess this? You’re like arguing you’re like It’s like I’m so mad. It’s you right now And then you’re like do you take a second maybe got sweatpants on and you’re just like bring me like point you like Pull them out so you can look down and look down in there. Okay. Nothing happening yet. Let’s keep, let’s keep arguing. Nothing yet. Let’s keep arguing. I don’t know the logistics here. I’m just, I’m just talking about a print. Let’s get in our sweat pants. I will say, I don’t think, if you’re planning on screwing, I don’t think starting with sweatpants is where you want to be. Unless you look really good in sweatpants. You know that guy who was, um, you know the guy from, uh, The Leftovers? Yes. What’s his name? He dated, uh, was a guy from The Leftovers. I know, he was jogging in his sweatpants and his junk was jiggling. Justin Theroux? Justin Theroux. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks good in sweatpants. Yeah, I don’t think I do. And, uh, apparently, you know, because you can see a schlong in him. And so I’m just, I’m saying for him, maybe it works. I don’t know if it works for everybody. I’m just, what I’m getting at is you might find that the thing that’s leading to the conflict is a passion that just needs to be released in a physical form. There’s just one option. I’m not suggesting that you, that you have to try that. He didn’t call it the healthy option. He just called it one option. Um, I mean, if you’re fighting all the time and you get, you know, it’s just like, you’re going to get fed up. That could lead to a conversation. Maybe you’ll agree on something, which is that you’re both. Fed up with arguing. I think it’s a good question. Well, I was asked I was well, how do you feel about Do you think we argue a lot? And how do you feel about that? Does it make you horny or does it make you annoyed if you ask it like that? It’s not gonna work, man. You can’t ask it like a baby. Well, i’m not trying i’m not it’s not foreplay This is a conversation. Did you make you horny? Did me and my sweatpants make you horny? That’s not gonna work, man. It wasn’t supposed to work. You were supposed to get answers. Okay, how about this? Maybe you can agree on breaking up. Well, before we tell somebody to break up. Ain’t nothing wrong with breaking up. I’m, I’m, yeah, okay. Sometimes forest fires are a good thing. That’s true, you gotta burn the underbrush. You know, uh, they’ve been, they’ve been built on, you know, the forest count on being burned. Can I give another data point? It all comes back to fire. That’s right, you gotta burn something down. Here’s another data point. Here’s another data point that I found to be pretty interesting. Uh, I heard a researcher. Of sorts say that there is an incredible like, so when you’re falling in love with someone, uh, and you’re in that stage where they can do no wrong and like the way that they sip their drink is endearing and sexy, you know, you’re falling in love. They can do that. Everything is sexy and then on average, 30 months later, 2. 5 years after falling in love. On average, you will, for whatever reason, I don’t know the reason, um, those things that we’re endearing will become annoying. That’s just what happens in most relationships, right? And the people who are able to move to the next stage beyond that, And it doesn’t mean you necessarily have to then again find the way that they sip tea to be endearing and the way that you did when you were falling in love, but you sort of recognize it like, okay, there was a chemical concoction in my brain that was really driving me to fall head over heels in love with this person. And then those, then that concoction sort of changes its makeup on average, two and a half years later. And now you basically have to work. A little bit differently for the relationship to work. Right? Yeah. And I think this theorizing here that a lot of couples get to the 30 that 30 month mark and then they kind of just exist in this Slight annoyance with each other, uh, but there’s a convenience to the relationship where getting out of the relationship seems like more work than staying in the relationship. I think this probably characterizes a good percentage of relationships. Um, and in that state, of mild annoyance with someone that you are in close proximity with on a regular basis, you’re going to fight a lot. You’re going to be annoyed at each other. You’re going to argue about things at a high frequency, right? And I’m not saying I know that that’s what’s happening in this situation, but it could be, it could be. And so I think I don’t really have a lot of good advice for how to get past that other than, I think the only reason that I, me and Jessie were able to get past that is there was this, and I’m not saying I remember, 30 months in I was annoyed by the way she ate an apple or whatever. I’m not saying I remember that. But you do know that there’s like the complexion of the relationship changes, but we had this sort of beneath it all this thing that was like there was really no world in which it wasn’t going to work out like regardless of how tough it got, you know, that then that just ends up if you if you keep focusing on that, then a lot of times, those things will eventually fade away. And it’s not I’m sure I’m annoying. And she can be annoying to me at times, but I would say that it’s significantly, it’s less than it, than it was at its peak. And also the nature of our arguments is more like we went on a walk the other night and we spent 30 minutes of our walk debating. About my walking speed because I had talked about it on the podcast, right? Uh, did we talk about it? I don’t know. Maybe it was when she was here. I can’t remember but we talked about the fact that She complains about me walking ahead of her in public situations And and then I’d say that she’s walking too slow and she’s like your legs are super long so we had this like long conversation where I was basically talking about how She was like I have to work harder to walk as fast as you. And then I was like, well, as a matter of fact, I just saw, because this was like during the, uh, during the Olympics, I was like, uh, I just saw the person who won the gold medal in the walking contest. They have that? In the Olympics? Yeah, the walkers. You know the walkers. It’s a track and field event. Oh. You have to have one foot on the ground at all times. I was like, how tall do you think the gold medalist was? Because by your logic, they should be seven feet tall. Right? The bigger they are, the faster they walk, right? And they were like 5’6 okay? 5’6 Yes! Because it’s not about how long your legs are. If your legs are longer and they’re bigger, it requires more energy to move them. It all balances out. Anyway, we got into this, we got into an argument, like about this, for 30 minutes. Did you win? And I was like, no, of course I didn’t. But I was like, I’m not backing down on this because the gold medalist is 5’6 I feel like I’ve got this in the bag. And I was like, let’s go look at the average heights of the gold medal winners in this event. And because what you find in Olympics is that every single event has a body type that ends up winning. Who wins the high jump, right? You watch the high jump, you see these tall, slim women. Every one of them. I think they’re Presbyterians. All Presbyterians. Jumping over that thing, right? You don’t see, like, a 5’9 foot woman doing it. You don’t see like a 6’8 woman doing it. It’s like someone who’s like unusually tall for a woman, slim, like long legs, like who’s winning the 100 meter dash? You know, so anyway, so I thought I made my point, but it didn’t, it didn’t matter. But at the end we basically laughed about the fact that we had talked about this for half an hour on a walk. Okay. I’m sorry that you still lost. Right. Well, I think I won. It’s just I I did not succeed in convincing her, but I think I have the better argument Okay, I think this requires a timeout. That’s my advice Okay, a timeout and I think this is the question of like talking about the fact that you have arguments I think a little curiosity would go a long way. Do you think do we think we argue a lot? What do you think that means? Does it annoy you that we argue a lot? Are you annoyed at me a lot and that’s why we argue? You know, lob some questions. Hmm. Lob them. Yeah. I was like, I don’t care! It’s just like, well, I don’t know. Maybe you need to find a Baptist. But yes, you, your relationship can come back from arguments. Sure. Of course. Sure it can. Of course. Sure it can. Right. Look at us. Yeah. Or give, give us, give us a nice one to go out on. Hey guys, it’s Jamie. So I have a situation that I could use your advice on. Um, my stepmom is applying for a job in the school district that I have taught at for the past 12 years. And while I like my stepmom in small doses, I think being in the same building with her day after day after day would put a substantial strain on our relationship. Um, she’s already turned in the application and she put me down as a reference, which I also think is kind of weird. So, what do you think is the best way to handle this situation both with her as well as if my bosses ask me about her? Thanks for your help. Talk to you later, hopefully. Bye! So this Jamie’s a teacher? Uh, I would assume. Not you. Not me. It sounded like you. It did sound like you. And then I was like, well, hold on. Is this, is this Jamie, our producer? He’s sitting right here. And her stepmom’s about to start working here. And stepmom, and we’re interviewing her stepmom? Also don’t have a stepmom, which is nice. Parents still together. Okay, I get it. All right, good for them. Yeah. And for you. Stepmoms can be nice too. Yeah, they can be nice. But they also cannot be. But her mom was the previous caller who’s been arguing a lot though, so we don’t know how long it’s going to last. I mean, it doesn’t sound like, it sounds like stepmom needs to understand a little boundaries here. I mean, it doesn’t sound like she asks stepdaughter. What she thought about this job application before she submitted it. So that leaves the door open for you to do what you need to do stepdaughter. This is your realm and Is stepmom gonna be coming in there? She put you as a reference that also opened the door you have the power Like he man, I think Hopefully the, you know, the, the principal or whoever’s hiring is going to ask you about this. And I think there’s a way to just say, well, you know, she is my stepmom. So it kind of is a, there’s a, I don’t know what, I don’t know how strange that might be. You know, you just, you just, you know. You put a little doubt in there. It’s like, uh, you don’t know about it. She’s a great person. I love her, or my dad loves her, or whatever is true to say. But like, just plan a little, like, you’re a little concerned. And so it’s, you know, that’s the power that you have, is to like, just, just say a little something. It’s not like character, um, assassination in it by any form. And then they’re probably getting the message, you know, we should, we probably shouldn’t be Shouldn’t be hiring people who are, like, related by marriage to work here, you know? That could complicate things. Well, what’s the nature of this school? How big is it? You know? Well, they said the district. So is it necessarily that specific school? Like, she says that she, uh, her stepmom is applying at the same school district. So maybe Yeah, right. It could be a different school. This is in Montessori, right? And how desperate is she for a job? You know? Well, we don’t know the per we don’t know the background. You know, I mean, if she’s desperate for a freakin job You don’t want I don’t know if you should sabotage it. That feels, yeah, I don’t know the nature of this, but that’s not going to stop us from pontificating on it. Um, yeah, you’re, you’re, you know, you’re probably not really interested in, um, um, You’re probably going to consult other people, let me just say that. You should. Yeah, we’re going to rely on that. But what I would say, one of the things about Link’s plan that I don’t believe will work Okay, it’s just a debate, let’s hear it. Is if You say something in the reference that causes her to not get the job, right? What’s she going to do? Yeah, but she wouldn’t know that. It’s not like the boss is going to say, we weren’t going to hire you, but your, uh, stepdaughter you apply for weird about when you apply for a job that you’re qualified for, that you have the, let’s just say qualified for has the experience for, there is a need for it, and then there’s a reference and then you don’t get hired. Your first thought is. Well, what happened with the reference and now you’ve got a potentially more complicated situation because now but it’s isolated It’s like what did you say for my reference to him? Well, I said that it might be weird to have stepmom at the thing, but you can’t say that Oh, then you’re gonna lie. You’re gonna lie. Yeah So I first I’ll just say I respect the You know how it is. Like you’ve kind of you you’ve got your life In this arena, and then you’ve got your family over here, right? Keep it separate, and then sometimes all of a sudden the family does run, doesn’t end around and ends up being involved in this thing over here that you didn’t expect. And it can be complicated and that that doesn’t make you a bad person for recognizing that, right? You’re a bad person for other reasons. I don’t know the nature. No, you’re not of the relationship. Uh, but what I would say, and I, I believe that the healthiest path forward is probably Burning something. Because you were asked to be a reference. The door is open. Yes, the door is open for you to say whatever you want to on the reference. But the door is also open for you to just have a conversation. With the stepmother? A direct conversation. And just be like, how bad do you need this? This is how, I’m worried about this for the following reasons. And again, I’m not going to give you the reasons because I don’t know the reasons. Oh, no. If there’s something that happened in the past, or there’s a pattern that happens with this person and you in public or what. Or you just see what happens and you, you relinquish the power that you have to say something to steer them away from hiring her. And then you just, but then you got to have this boundary conversation about like, don’t talk to me. At work, you don’t wanna do that. You know, uh, you, you know, I don’t talk to me now. I didn’t want to go here, I didn’t want to go here. But I just feel like, to make sure that this is a comprehensive answer, I feel like I got to. If this is a high school situation, right? Or even a middle school situation. Okay. Having someone and their stepmom in the same environment, it just invites too many jokes because all the porn is about stepmoms. Let’s just be clear here. So all the kids are making porn jokes? I’m just saying. That the kids are watching porn the the the there’s a lot of step stuff happening in porn and You’re just walking right into an awkward situation And so you could put in the reference if you just want to be straight up honest You could say you know what according to a podcast that I listened to all the kids are watching porn There’s a lot of step stuff in porn and i’m worried about the kids making porn jokes If me and my stepmom are the same school because there’s no blood relation You Right, but there’s still like this moral Ambiguity ambiguity. That’s why people like it man. I like to push the limits. They like to be like, well, this isn’t technically Incestual there’s also the the hot for teacher thing. Yeah, this has got so many red flags. Oh my god related to porn I’m hot for Step mom teacher. Oh gosh. Yeah, I think we’ve I think I just should have started with this Your step mom can’t work at the same school as you because there’s too many porn categories related to that situation, right? Yeah, it’s a confluence of porn categories It’s centering on her and you’re doing her a favor by showing her this stuff before she becomes a part of it. You can’t have two connections to a person that are porn categories in front of high schoolers. You can’t do it. You can’t do it. That’s it. We cracked it. Woo! What a relief, man. Well. What a relief. I knew we would get there eventually. And you know what? And that’s, that’s a much easier conversation. Right. Than everything else we talked about. Yeah. You can just tell your stepmom that. Yeah. Yeah, or just show it to her. Just start sending it to her. Yeah, send her some links. This, this is how they would see you. They make sure you’re, you know what, and if she does get the job, you could send her some links and then if she opens them at work, she might get fired. So really, there’s no way you can lose in this situation. There you go. Maybe she should look into living in a van and slapping people. You know, that’s another, you know, I thought you were bringing up another porn category, the van one. The slap bus? Slapping is also part of it. People are sick, man. Okay. Well, um, if we haven’t proven our point, uh, I’ll just go ahead and say it. You need to call us. Yeah. 1 888 EAR POD 1. We had a good time. We don’t have time for your rec. Yeah, we do. Of course. Um, last night I went to the Faye Webster concert. My wife is a big fan. I have been a fan, but usually when she’s listening and after having seen Faye in concert, I’m now, I’m on board. Oh, okay. Um, I loved her music already, but you get to see the person behind the music. And she is a character I am not familiar with. 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