Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the Roundtable of Dim Lighting, boy, we got a special guest, Charles Neal himself. Host of the amazing podcast, Dispatches from Myrtle Beach. What’s up, Dad? Just having a big time here at Mythical, so yeah, we — Let me come on Ear Biscuits a little bit. So we’re going to see what happens. Yeah, we are. – We’ve been putting him to work – We’re really milking you out here and, uh, in Los Angeles, we bring you out here and just put you to work. How does that feel? Well, it’s all right. Cause I’m used to work. Yeah, you are. It’s a little bit different… – … then what’s I’m used to. – It’s a different kind of work. You’re not going to get your hands very dirty. Well, maybe you will. I don’t know. We’ll see what we have for you the rest of the week. I think there might be, uh, it might get bloody. I don’t know. There’s a big event coming up this week, Good Mythical Evening, uh, October 25th, that would be this Friday. Uh, it is live, you can buy a ticket and dad’s gonna be a part of it. Yeah, we’re gonna be sexy, scary, and stupid. Uh, who’s sexy, who’s scary, and who’s stupid in this group? Uh, you know what? I’ll take one for the team and I will be sexy. Okay, I’ll be stupid and that means that you can be scary, Charles. Or do you want to be sexy? I’m gonna be whatever y’all want me to be. See? I’m easy to get along with. He’s just like me. So easy to get along with. I don’t, yeah, what happened with that? You’re like, the thing I noticed about you is that you’re down for anything. You don’t really voice your opinions too much. Like you don’t, you’re not, you don’t, you don’t, I’m saying you don’t like lead every conversation with your preferences. You’re like, hey, I’m down for whatever. And did he just get all that from his mom? Oh, no, he probably got a lot. He got from me, but you know, when the things that y’all do. I don’t know anything about And the best thing is you get older you figure out just keep your mouth shut And do what you’re told. Oh, so you’re telling me that as he gets older it’s gonna get better? It might. Because I feel like it’s been getting worse. No, no, no I’m, I know i’m getting weirder, but i’m getting more mellow man. I don’t care about as much as I used to care about. Okay. We got some voicemails today because we’re getting a kick out of these voicemails and where they might lead Yeah, and we’re gonna get Charles’s perspective instead of just the two of ours perspective, but, uh, y’all had a, uh, a birthday dinner last night. That’s right. I heard the dinner. That would be correct. We are hurting this morning. We are suffering from a meat hangover, man, because we took Nancy out to a Brazilian steakhouse for her birthday. Um, uh, she declined the Brazilian wax. Which was, which was part of the birthday. Or the Brazilian butt lift. Oh, they did. Yep. BBL. Oh, yeah. That is what BBL stands for. Yeah. What do you think it stood for? I never really thought about it. And I don’t know. Well, I have thought about them, but I haven’t thought about them. You don’t know what a BBL is? No. I thought we talked about that on Dispatch’s one time. We may have. Just Google it. Find a quiet place and Google it. You know, they bring out all, all the meats on the, what? On a skewer. On a skewer. Skewer, yep. And, um, I told you, I mean, the guy even told you when we sat down. Now you need to, you need to pace yourself. Yeah. But that didn’t happen. There’s a salad bar. They’re attacking the salad bar. Dad’s coming back with a plate full of salad bar. You gotta go easy on the salad bar. I mean, there’s like — Well, I went pretty easy, but I, they had beef stroganoff and they had scalloped potatoes on the hot bar and they were really good. So I got a little bit of those and — All before they start bringing out just reams of beef. Well, I didn’t get that much cause I knew they were going to, but I mean. I mean, you got, hey, I may not ever get to go back there again. Right, yeah. I’m going to try and watch the guy. Get a lifetime supply while you’re there. So what happened? They don’t, they don’t have Brazilian steakhouses down in Myrtle Beach? I got one in North Myrtle Beach about. 10 blocks from where we live. I’m not going there. Yeah, especially now. Now, after. Okay. So what happened? Like what, give me an, give me, give me the play by play. What was the meat hangover feel like? My, my play by play is that, uh, I was up and down with the upset stomach all night and running back and forth to the bathroom and, uh, and then he had the meat runs I meant he was running to the bathroom, but that sounded But this didn’t happen to you? You slept okay? I did not sleep okay. I slept very uneasy. And, uh, I had a wild dream, I’ll have to tell you about. And then, when I woke up, I just couldn’t eat breakfast. You know, if I miss my smoothie that means something. Yeah. I had to skip my smoothie this morning. Oh no. Just feel like. We’ll see how things go. Too much meat, man. The meat dreams. I had this dream that I was taking a group of people to Disney. I don’t know if it was world, land, whatever it was. I didn’t know half the people, but I was, I drove a busload of people six hours to Disney. And we get there and security is just wild. They’re like, searching stuff and I wasn’t worried. I don’t have anything to hide, but then they pull me to the side and they’re like, sir, we’ve, we’ve, uh, we’ve, we’ve got some concerns with you. And they’re like running a test on my coffee mug. And then they’re like coming back and saying that they’ve, and while they’re running the test, I reach in my back pocket and I pull out some sort of weird gun. And I believe somebody has planted. I’ve never seen this. I’ve never seen this gun. It didn’t even, it looked more like a disassembled toy, but I knew it was a gun. So it was a Disney gun. Apparently. Yeah. And I kept it. Okay. And they hadn’t found that. So then I’ve got this in my back pocket and I’m like, getting real scared. And then they come back and say, we did a test on the, um, the lid of your coffee mug and we found some illicit substance. And at this point, I’m scared and also angry. Who’s this toying with my coffee mug and putting firearms in my back pocket? And they said, you can’t go in. And then I got so angry and embarrassed because I’d driven this group here. Yeah, you should have been embarrassed. And, you know how when you get so mad that you start to cry? I got so mad I started to cry. Wow. And, um, and, uh… That was one of his mama’s traits. Okay, alright. Yeah, right. Damn. So, uh, you don’t get so mad you can cry now? No, no, when I get mad I ain’t crying. Yeah, that’s what I was about to say. You know, I mean, I’m not saying boohoo like in a wreck, in a puddle. I’m saying like your eyes start watering just like with anger. That’s a different one. Okay. Okay. All right. Fine. That’s not what I pictured, but okay. Okay. I was angry crying. Good thing you explained it. Yeah. Thank you. And then, y’all gonna team up on me? Yes. I didn’t bring you in here to take your side. I angry cry. I’m, I’m with you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Help him out. But we couldn’t go in. So like the people who had like, they had done rides that were like near the security thing and we had to pull them all back and put them back in the bus. Yeah. Yeah. As we were leaving to get in the bus, there was some waterway, and I fell into it. A lazy river? It was more of a pond, and then I’m being approached by these creatures. I would describe it as a cross between a manatee and an alligator. And I was in the water, uh, treading water. And they were coming at me, I think to attack me. So I reached behind me and I grabbed a stick. Like a spear, like a javelin. Don’t know where I got that from. Apparently they’re everywhere at Disney. And, uh, did I murder the manatees? Yes. I just, I stabbed the hell out of these. I mean, they were also alligators. I don’t, I mean, they were coming at me. Is it, was this like fat alligator? It was like a fat alligator. Yeah. Cause it’s crossed between a manatee and alligator. That’s a fine line. You know what I’m saying? I didn’t know if it was friendly or not, but his mouth was open and they were coming at me. Okay. All right. And I mean, I talk about skewer. I skewered the first one. I skewered the second one. I skewer the third one. Was it a trident? And then I, no, it was one thing. Javelin. A un dent. Yeah. And I’m thinking, people have gotta be seeing this – And just like — – People gotta be watching you. Is that what you like? Well, yeah, it’s, you put on a show, it’s at a park. And I’m like, and I was, I told d. d on the way in about this story and I was like, you know what? That it actually made me feel better to kill the manatees in my dream because I was feeling pretty bad and I killed the fourth one and get out of the water and act like nothing happened apparently nobody saw me so we get to the bus And I’m driving us out and then somebody forgot something so we had to turn around and go back. I’m like shit I’m gonna get caught now I mean, I’ve already, they caught my illicit substance, I’d thrown the gun in a trash can, and I felt sure that they caught that on video. At least you didn’t shoot the manatees. No, I would never do that. You stabbed them. Stabbed them to death. And, um, self defense, I really believe that. And people, I mean, people get upset when you do that, there’s not many of those. Well, it was, it was just as much alligator as manatee. It’s not a real thing that exists. I love manatees. I would never kill a manatee outside of a dream state. There’s meat dreams, man. They do it to you. So we’re going back and I’m like, well, I gotta go. Now, they’re gonna put me in, they’re gonna put me in lockup or something. Disney has a lockup. You’ve heard about this. Disney jail, yeah. They’re gonna put me in there. My uncle’s still in there. Yeah, I’m never gonna get out. Your uncle will be my best friend. You’re starting to talk like Goofy after all these years. And I’m walking back to where the person left their thing. I don’t know why I went back in, but I look over, I look over the edge, down into the water, and I see those dead manatees at the bottom. Oh, yeah. Nobody had noticed yet. That they were down there. Dead. Do you want me to interpret this dream? Please. I just mark . I just mark it up to the meat, man. I blame it on the meat. Oh, it’s deeper than the meat man. What? I don’t know there you must have got some stuff going on that you’re afraid about Disney finding out about it. I, and it was, it was so real and I was so worked up about it. I was paranoid. I was angry. I was, I was wet and bloody. It was bad. It was real bad. I never have dreams like that. I’m never going back to a Brazilian steakhouse either, Dad. Yeah, I’m actually — Too much meat! Well, how did Nancy enjoy it? It was her birthday. She enjoyed it. She had a good time. She paced herself. She did pretty, her and, her and Christy. They kind of went for it, actually. Yeah, they, I don’t know if you’d call it pacing, cause, cause Nancy loves a salad bar, so I knew she was going to chow down on that. You don’t go to a Brazilian restaurant for a salad bar, but it was pretty good. It was a good salad bar, I mean they had a lot of eclectic stuff on there. But there was one highlight, you thought you were done, cause there’s that thing, you put a thing on the table, and it’s green, and then if you turn it over, it looks like a cup holder. It’s red. And that way they know to stop bringing the skewers. – And then they bring something else – But then they would bring something to another table and you had to turn that thing back green again. Yeah, and I kind of had to speak very loudly to get his attention because we turned all ours over real Because they had that skewered pineapple. Oh Man, so that was like you didn’t even steal So we all got some pineapple on it, you know, it had brown sugar and oh Um, I forget. Cinnamon. Cinnamon on it. And where they’d been on that rotation. And it had cooked into it in the juice from the pineapple. And that’s what they gave you. They didn’t give you real deep in it. But I mean. Like a little. So we, he had to come back twice. Oh, so he brings it and slices it for you. Just like the meat. Oh, so it’s almost like a, uh, whatever when they do the Shurik’s Kara, I think. Yeah, for the, uh The Trumbo. Al Pastor. Yeah. Yep. But it was good. Wow. You were talking about doing that at home. Yeah. Nancy said, you got to do some of that on the grill when you cook. I said, okay. Pretty good idea. It was really good. But then they read from what they did. They brought a Nancy had looked at the menu when we came in Monday with Lando. And she showed it to me, the dessert menu. And they had They were planning days ahead. They Got to. They had a a custard pie kind of thing. Well, they call it a flan. Well, whatever. This was custard. Yeah. But man, so I ordered it and they ate, Link didn’t eat any, Orlando ate a little bit, but me and Christy chowed down on this man. Oh boy. Cause it had caramel stuff in it. That might’ve been what did you in. Yeah. It may have been the flan. Yeah. No, it couldn’t have been. Not as good as I love custard. It could have been too much meat and too much custard. Yeah. You really can’t. Well, I’m glad you, I’m glad you’re here. I would have never known that you’ve been up all night. You look great. I’m doing alright. You’re tough. That’s another thing you didn’t pass on. All right, let’s get to a voicemail. Come on now. Hi, Red Link. My name’s Truman. I got a bit of a conundrum for you. I have a big crush on this girl I work with, but she unfortunately has a boyfriend. How do I A, catalyze their breakup, and then B, once I’m successful, how long do I wait until I make a move? Also, it’s important to note that she is my superior. Whoa! No! Alright, hey. First of all, thank you for giving us this incredible situation to navigate perfectly. Oh, they know. Strap in! Because we’re about to give you some great advice. Uh, Corbin? Was that the name? We’ll go with Corbin. Something with a C. I mean, at least he’s not, if he said And you know, if he ended it with, and I’m her superior, we wouldn’t be talking. Right, right, right, right, right. We couldn’t be to be clear. We couldn’t even have fun with this question. To be clear. We would have, we wouldn’t have just moved right along. It’s it now it’s just, it’s complicated and challenging. Yeah. I mean, Jenna, I saw you put your head in your hands immediately, immediately when he just said she has a boyfriend. Oh, that early? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You don’t believe in breaking people up if you’re interested? No. Oh, we have friends who are married. I have, I have multiple married friends who like, they’re really thriving. And it, uh, it was the result of them meeting and then dissolving her current relationship or maybe his one time. It’s ha it ha I I’ve seen I’ve seen I’ve seen positive proof. We’re both like, If there ain’t no ring, it ain’t no thing, right? Yeah, it just sounds a little bit like emotional cheating to me. Oh. In the beginning, at least. Emotional cheating. Well, we’re not I mean Also, if he’s trying to break up that relationship, like with her knowing or without her knowing either way is bad, but without her knowing, and then he makes a move and they end up together. She finds out later that he broke up her. I don’t know. That’s a whole trusted. I don’t like it. I don’t like it. Okay. Well, let me just start with, I think we need to acknowledge one, one. Piece of this, the work goggles thing. Can we just talk about work goggles for a second? Yes, please. So, um, we, we have a phenomenon that we called stint goggles. We’ve talked about before, but just to refresh your memory when we were in college, we were involved with campus crusade and you would go on. Sometimes, maybe right after you graduated, you would go on stint, you would go over to a different country with a small team of people and be there for like six months to a year, whatever. Short term international. And so, what we would find would happen is, being in a different culture with a very small group of Americans, You began to see somebody on that team through these goggles, right? It’s just like beer goggles or whatever. And you’re, you, you sort of exaggerate your connection. You’re in a, an emotionally vulnerable state and you’re away from your culture and you’re adjusting and you end up kind of like bonding with somebody and you think you’re in love and then you come back home and then you realize that you just had on stint goggles, right? So. I believe that this phenomenon extends to work. Mm hmm. Dad, have you ever had, uh, run in with beer goggles? I don’t know about stent goggles, but you know, when you come back and forth and do something like that, when I grew up, that was just lust. Yep, there you go. Right. That’s a, that’s a simple way of talking about it. Okay. But what about beer goggles? Have you Have you, has anything gone sideways when you’ve put on the beer goggles? I don’t think I’ve ever had a set of beer goggles on. Well, that’s not literal. Oh. It’s when you drink too much and you think somebody’s fine, but they’re not. Oh yeah. And you wake up and want to cut your arm off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, why do you cut your arm off? Well, it depends on what you do with that arm. Oh, it’s underneath. Oh, she’s laying on top of the arm. You gotta cut your arm and get out. Okay, I get it. Wow, I like that. I don’t know, man. You can take it. So, I just feel like that’s the first thing to acknowledge, is you might need to reevaluate how connected you are, because, I don’t know, you see somebody in like, work clothes? You know what I’m saying? Like you see somebody and like, if she’s your superior, maybe she occasionally wears a business suit. You know, a woman walks in with a business suit. I mean, that can do things for you sometimes. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, you just got to be, you got on a date and she’s wearing the same thing, it starts to get weird. She can still give you orders. That’s fine. Okay. But what I’m saying is, is you got to make sure that you know, and I would say that’s probably the case, but let’s just assume that that’s not the case. Let’s just assume that you actually would be good for each other. All things considered. And we believed after having evaluated the current relationship that she is in and the potential relationship that she can have with our caller that we have determined that it would be better for her. Okay. And him to be in a relationship together. How would he go about navigating this? I just set it up and handed it to you. But what about Well, we need to talk about Let’s remove the power dynamic for a second. And just talk about what How do you get somebody to break up? Jenna and Jamie seem to be objecting to, and that is breaking up a relationship. Now there’s a, there’s a light touch that I think it’s going to be okay. Right? I mean, if you, if you get to know somebody and, um, we’re not saying that you work with them, but in general, you get to know somebody who’s dating somebody. I mean, and you just get to know them as a person. As an acquaintance, I mean, that gives them some information to decide, Oh, I’m, I’m actually finding myself interested in this person, but the question is, can’t that happen? Of course, there’s nothing wrong with that. That can definitely happen. That’s not what we’re objecting. Right? You’re objecting to the person who’s trying to instigate the breakup, actually taking some sort of action to make the breakup. What was the verb he used? He said, catalyze, catalyze the breakup. So here’s the question I have, For the room. Yes. Is that? Yes, you can put yourself in close proximity to another relationship and see if you can. You catch some strays or whatever. Um, do you not think it is, do you think it is inappropriate to somehow communicate your interest so that that person understands that like, I do want you to know, like, I do want you to know that I like you and that if you weren’t in this relationship with this person, well, I’m just asking the question. I think you’re on, you’re right on the right track because he didn’t know. If his boss lady or superior likes him or not, but he, he don’t even need to worry about, to me, breaking this, these two up if they’re dating or whatever they’re doing, but he needs to just find out, first of all, if she’s going to even be interested in trying to go out with him, for him to see that, and I mean, I think it starts with a resignation, and I have, well, um, I don’t know about that, but I mean, I, I’ve kind of, you know, in my years I’ve kind of walked that road and had some people, like, y’all were talking about that. Well, I’d like to date her. Have you ever fallen in love with a boss? Mm, I don’t think so. Okay. No. Okay. But I, it, some of one of my friend’s, girlfriends or something, I said, you know, I, I think she’d be a lot better off with me than him, so. I’m going to say she wants to date me. I didn’t tell him, but I, you know, I just let her know. So, oh, you let her know. Yeah. You gave her the option. Yeah. And Astra said, you know, and of course I, I might, when I was younger, I might have been a little more arrogant, but you never know, but just saying, just saying it, Hey, I’d be interested in you if you were interested in me, but I know you’re dating somebody. So it’s not, I’m not going to do anything about it. Just in general, not with this situation. We haven’t gotten to the superior thing yet. We’ll talk about that problem in a minute. Yeah, I think if you put the ball in her court, then you haven’t done nothing wrong, and then it’s up to her at that point. Instead of like a clandestine flirtatious Or framing him for something. Yeah, because he’s not loyal to anyone in the situation. It’s her at that point. If she knows, and then she continues to Right. Go with it, then it gets messy. I think if, if, if you say, if you express interest and then you just leave it lay, that’s also good for their relationship. It’s a good test. You know, it’s like, Hey, do you really want to be with this guy? It’s up to you. I think I actually have a way that you can do this that is completely ethically acceptable. So, uh, find out everything you can possibly find out about her boyfriend. Okay. So far so good. That’s step one. You know, ethically. Merritt, did the boyfriend work here too? I don’t know. I don’t think so. I’m saying no. Are we looking through his windows? What’s happening? Uh, we’re, we’re, uh, in the least we’re pretty sure. We’re paying for that thing where you, you Google somebody’s name and then you pay like 3 to learn more. At least that. Yeah. Social media stalking, that kind of thing. Find out what he dresses like, find out what, how he wears his hair, find out what he’s, what he’s into. Then slowly, this is going to take 18 months, 18 to 24 months. This is a long play because if you go too fast, it’ll be obvious what you’re doing. The first thing you do, just get a shirt that he has. And wear it to work. A replica. You’re not stealing. You know, a replica. Yeah, yeah. Don’t be creepy. Be cool about it. Be cool about this. And then slowly over the course, I would say six months. You’ve slowly transferred your wardrobe to basically dress just like him. Uh, and then you start working on the haircut. This is another six months. It can’t be sudden. If he’s got a rat tail, you got to slowly grow a rat tail. Well, that’s how rat tails grow. Thank God. If he’s got real short hair, you got long hair. Don’t cut it off all at once. Move it slow so nobody even notices you have a haircut at any point. Yep. You are slowly, if you can tell, becoming him. Yep. And then one day So then when he mysteriously passes away No, no, no, no, no. Then the It’s just What’s gonna happen is It’s like loading the boat off the ramp. You become so much like him, that one day you just walk into her office, because she’s asked you to come in, and she gets confused and thinks maybe her boyfriend has shown up. And at that point You just go with it, right? Double the pleasure and double the fun. And then, at that moment, you have two paths. Choose your own adventure. I don’t have enough experience to know which one’s better. One, you just keep riding that wave. And you just continue confusing her for a period of time. And then just Try to push him out slowly, but I think the better plan, the more foolproof plan is once she is confused and thinks that maybe you are him, do something disqualifying as him, not as you. Oh, yes. Then she goes home, she breaks up with him. And then over the next 18 to 24 months, you slowly become yourself again. And then you begin the process of trying. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. So this is a, this is a three to four year. process. I like the fact that if you’re serious about this, you’ll do it. You’ve ended up still being yourself and you’re not stuck. No, you can’t be him forever. You don’t want to be him forever. No, no. You have to become him slowly, disqualify him, and then slowly become yourself again. And there’s no guarantees that she’s going to like you after all that. This is some real spy shit. Ha ha ha! Yeah. Sounds like, sounds like you ought to make this a TV episode. Yeah, it sounds like a full season. You’re writing for Criminal Minds now. I have a much snappier solution. I mean, faster than four years? I’m not interested in a four year plan. That’s like high school. Yeah, yeah, that, but okay, now they’re in high school, don’t confuse us. Yeah, it’s also, it also could be college or like a four year prison sentence. Right, yeah, yeah. I don’t know what you’re getting at. Right, yeah. Um, what do you have to do to be in for four years? Pretty minor. I mean. I mean, steal a car, javelin, a manatee or four, maybe, I don’t know. It was just a dream. Don’t hold it against me. I think the snappy thing to do is go into her office and resign. Now it’s one of those resignations that, uh, she has to accept, you know, you know, you, you need to be a good employee. You need to, I like this. And then it’s so why it’s like, I’m, I would like to turn in my resignation. Well, why you’re a. You’re a wonderful team member. I love being your boss lady. Oh, you do? Well, um, I am interested in maybe there’s something here between us. And I want to remove any, any barriers on my part that would keep us from maybe seeing if there’s a spark in a future between us. So I am resigning from this job so that we can have an unobstructed exploration of a potential relationship, because I really like you. Wow. And I like this. I, I’m removing, I’m removing my barriers. Now, um, the ball’s in your court. I have a slight amendment that might be a little I love this idea. I’m, I’m strongly implying that she’s got to break up with the guy. Or, but then maybe she won’t, and if she doesn’t accept the resignation, she still knows, but she knows that you’re, you’re You’re on the open. The only thing I don’t like about it. I love the fact that it’s quick and I love the fact that it puts the ball in her court. The thing I don’t like about it is that it’s so there’s no rat tail and it’s so explicitly puts the ball in her court where I actually like making people realize that the ball is in their court and then they have the power of choice. Right, right, right. So make it seem like it’s her idea. Slight amendment. You go in and you say, I need to resign. She says, why? And you say, I To be honest with you, it is distracting working with you because I like you so much, and I don’t feel like I can continue to do my best work, you know, because you’re such a distraction to me. And then, she’s flattered. Yep. And she’s like, well, shit, I got to do something about this either. Okay, whatever. I don’t like you. But if it’s like, I, well, I do, I, you know what, then she does whatever she wants to. I think she might, she hasn’t been given a choice. She might give you a promotion in another department. Is that possible? Well, and then you become an equal. Yep. There it is. What y’all girls think about that? Yeah, I have no notes. I like that. I like the long con plan of slowly becoming him, becoming yourself again. Yeah, that’s good. And then, uh, no notes about that. But yeah, I think he would have to resign. He has to remove himself from the, from that whole other problem situation. So you’re on board with both, Jamie? Yeah, I mean, I think this, I think after four years, hopefully he’s still even interested in this chick. Okay. That would be my only thing. That would suck if it wasn’t. But I like the faster one. I was thinking, become friends with the boyfriend and then show how you’re such a better guy than that guy when you all hang out together. Okay, he becomes the third wheel? Yeah, but then he takes over and then he’s now You can have a strong third wheel performance sometimes. That is a good strategy. Let me throw something else into the mix that I have very little understanding of. Great. That’s the, that’s the way to start talking about something. Yep. That’s what we do on, that’s what we do on this show. Yeah, um, the concept of a work wife or a work husband. I hear the term work wife a lot more than work husband, but I’m sure it goes either way. I don’t quite understand what this is. And I don’t, I mean, I think we work with we work with a lot of women. Look at us working with women right now. They’re, they’re, they’re better than working with men. Definitely. Uh, but I don’t, I don’t think I have a work wife. I don’t know. I don’t quite know what that is exactly. But my understanding is that the, let’s, the real, um, Wife refers to it refers to the work wife as the work wife. There’s like an understanding there My so in my who said in my experience what that would be is it’s uh, Someone of the opposite sex that works closely with you at your level that you spend Basically as much time with as you do your spouse and your friends and you talk to them a lot You’re like texting them for work purposes You That’s your work wife. Oh, and so you’re on the side. It’s not a relational thing. And there was no power dynamic You’re at the same level. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but now this is not the concept of the ice husband And the ice wife that we talked about that we well we met someone. I’m not gonna say what he did I’m just gonna say that he had been to Antarctica. Oh Okay, I’m gonna say his role because there’s probably not a lot of these down there. That’s right. Yeah And we were asking him, as soon as we found out that he had just flown back from Antarctica, we started asking lots of questions. And he had spent an extended amount of time there. And I said the thing about like, do you have a girlfriend down there or something? Because I’d watched a documentary about how there’s not many women down there. And the women are incredibly popular because you have these men who are just cooped up for a very long time, right? And women just have, you know, their pick of the litter, essentially. And he said, Yeah, that’s the concept of an ice husband and an ice wife is real. And in that case, it’s literally somebody that you’re having an affair affair with while you’re in Antarctica. Because if you work in Antarctica, you usually go for an extended period of time because you’d like go through the full like, Summer season or whatever. But it doesn’t necessarily. I didn’t take him to be talking about an affair because Oh, he was. Oh. I barely knew this guy. He wasn’t married. He wasn’t, like, admitting to us that he had an affair. No, he wasn’t talking about himself. He was talking about, I said, asked the question. But it’s like a summer camp boyfriend. Yeah, but with sex. Even better. So it’s an affair. As long as you have a relationship back home, but there’s also an ice wife where it’s like you’re you connect with you hook up with somebody and then whenever you only only on the ice. Yeah, that’s also the same situation. Yeah, different. It doesn’t have to involve infidelity. Correct. Yeah, but that’s not what a work wife is. So are are. Are you my work husband? Uh, probably. I think that’s why people must think that we’re gay. Because we work closely together. Because they’re like, why would two men share an office? Yeah. Um. And sometimes spoon on camera. Is there an answer here for work life? Work husband. Can it, can, that’s an understanding amongst everybody. We have a special working. We have a special relationship that’s in the work environment. And then I have a special relationship with you. That’s in the home environment and everybody seems to be okay with it. Obviously, as long as there’s no intimacy. Right, there’s boundaries for this. Yeah, I don’t think it’s got to be about i’m not confused It’s just got to be about the work. It’s just about the work Now if there’s actual attraction then work wife thing doesn’t happen can’t happen, right? Well, right it would start as that and then it could become something that was more problematic I think we’ve covered this in so many different ways dead in there, but I did learn something I think corbin or whatever his name was has so so You have a long tail and a short option. Yeah. Yeah, let’s hear another one Hey Rhett and Link, I’m just calling to say that you guys did an awful job of answering Dan’s question about how to get engaged when his fiancée asks that for something private, yet with friends and family. Um, as someone who got engaged in 2024 and not 1964, or whenever you guys were 17 and getting engaged, I just wanted to reach out to Dan and say, all she means is that she wants a special intimate moment for the two of you when you actually propose, and then to celebrate for friends and family after. So go somewhere that’s special to the two of you. Have a nice moment where you guys can say everything sweet. Take her to dinner after, and have friends and family waiting there to surprise her. That’s all. Uh. Redlink, love your content, but yeah, not the best engagement advice. I am. Well, dad, let me, dad, let me bring you up to speed. On a, on a previous episode, we gave some great advice about how to, um, make his fiance happy with an engagement that involved privacy. With a photographer hidden in bushes, but then also having the family there and one one friend or family member at a time also in the bush, I gave a lot of good advice about going to all the places that was special in their relationship. As the date and then at certain points, then the, um, uh, the family would show up and there’ll be two photographers and they would, they would sweat, they would run ahead and each be at each special place taking photos, but Rhett was really upset about it and he was very grumpy and he, he basically tried to rip the whole thing to shreds. And this guy’s saying neither one of us were on the right track. This guy is just saying that, uh, all you should do is just ask. You know, do the engagement thing, and then go to a restaurant? Yawn much? That’s true. You know what I’m saying? Actually, it was Rhett’s advice, it wasn’t mine, I was joking. But I thought that was really good advice. I’m kind of upset that this guy is calling us on the carpet. Yeah. And I’m upset that we played it, you know? It’s like, what? Trying to insinuate that we’re old? You’re not old. We’re not old. My dad’s old. I’m old. But Rhett, Rhett, proposing to someone is something special for both people and I don’t understand why if If it’s not that special to him that he’s just proposing to her by herself, what the hell do you need to take her out to eat for? Oh, right. I mean, I’ll give you one little thing. Okay. When Nancy and I, when I proposed to Nancy, and this had to be karma, Or something, because I proposed to her on the beach and there was a man standing behind us and took a picture while I proposed to her. And I did not hire this guy. It was just, and he walked up to us and said, he asked me, he said, did you just propose to her? And I said, yes, I did. And he said, I’ll bring you a picture tomorrow. And we have the picture. And you went out on the beach the next day. And he walks up. And he walks up and brings us back a picture. So. Photographer in the bushes didn’t even have to pay him. That’s what I mean. I know you plan stuff and want it to be special, but I don’t know if you, I don’t know if you need pictures proposing. I didn’t need a picture that day of me proposing to Nancy. I mean, it’s special just for you, whether you have a picture or not of it. You just, you just, whatever happens happens. It’s something for you to remember. Right. And you to do, and you to have with that one person, cause you want, if you’re proposing to somebody, it’s something you want to have the rest of your life with them. Right. Not with everybody else. It’s not about putting on a show for the internet. What about just a drone though? I’d be, I mean, you’d be all right with a drone, I mean, but just like a drone that’s not too close so you can still hear each other. Right. You’re down on one knee and it’s like point blank. It’s like hitting you in the head. But I mean, that’s just my experience. I like that though. But our caller is saying that. We over complicated it. I don’t think so. I don’t think, listen. That is saying keep it simple. I don’t think hiring. Let what happens, happen. If you think that hiring two photographers and having a drone operator and having one different family member hide in a bush along with one of those photographers and having the photographer switch off in order for there to be like a handoff and the photographer is always there with your friend before you get to the location. And doing that at least 12 times. And then finally the last one, everyone gets there in time. And you’ve got both photographers and a drone and all the family. If you think that’s too complicated, you don’t need to get, have you heard of algebra? Don’t, don’t sign up for algebra. You know what I’m saying? You know, don’t take that course. Let’s hear another voicemail. What? Hi Rhett and Link. I have a question. My fiancé and I have been engaged for almost two years. And we’ve decided that we’re going to elope because neither of us care about the future. A wedding as evidenced by the fact that it’s been almost two years. However, we are feeling a little bit guilty about excluding our family. How guilty should we feel about not telling our family that we are getting married until after we have already gotten married? Um, and if you have any suggestions for how we should tell them after. Uh, please share them. We were gonna go with the idea of a cake that said, Sorry, we got married without you. Um, but if you guys have anything better to suggest, uh, I’d love to hear it. Thank you so much. Love you guys forever. Mmm, mmm, mmm. I love the fact that they’re on the same page. That’s right. If you don’t want a big wedding, if you want the same thing and you want to elope, go for it. Do what they did back in the day and drive down to South Carolina and just make it happen. My parents did this. My parents eloped. Oh yeah? Was it secret to the family? Yeah, yeah. I mean, they’d been engaged and there were plans to do a wedding later in the year and they got tired of having to deal with it, so they eloped. They drove to Virginia and eloped. They had to cross the state line, too. They crossed the state line. Yeah, they did. Yeah. You can’t do that in North Carolina, but you could do it in South Carolina. That would be correct. A lot of people would just migrate down there just to get Right. right over the border. It’s kind of like going to Vegas, right, Dad? Just drive down to Dillon, get your marriage license, and walk in there and that man just hook you right on up. Mm hmm. Yeah. My in laws did the same thing. I don’t understand the part about keeping it and drive to Myrtle Beach and have a honeymoon. Right, right, right. Why can’t you tell them, you know what, we’ve decided to elope, we’re doing it in a couple of days. At least you’re giving them a heads up. Is that because they’re going to get upset and try to stop it? Because then, because then, depending on, well, first of all, I don’t know the situation. But a lot of people choose to do this because, Because. Well, first of all, a lot of people choose to do this now because a wedding is expensive. And this is like a way to just not have to worry about it. I always hear about, and you can’t find a venue. People spending years trying to find a venue. How hard is it to find a venue? Apparently really, really, really hard. But the other thing is that, for a lot of people, the prospect of, Their families coming together, and it might be because of some individual or some individuals and one or both of the families is that is something that is not going to be an edifying experience and not something that they want to experience when they’re. Getting married like if because if if you think oh, well This will be really special and our families are super supportive and this will be a beautiful ceremony And I want my family to be a part of this if you want to elope It’s either probably for financial or because you want to avoid some drama that you know will occur, right? Or maybe it’s just you don’t want to have the headache of having to plan this shit that can get really Complicated and make you really stressed out. It’s like that dawes song where he talks about You They’re planning the wedding and he’s like, you don’t seem to be having any fun at all talking to his fiance. Yeah, and so I don’t blame you first of all, but that’s why you don’t give them a heads up if you’re gonna do it. But then you have a reception. You just plan a party so they can receive you. In some form, right? Well, Rhett, I, you know, when you get married and I’ve done it more than once, but when you get married and you want to do something, if you let, if you let everybody else in the family have a little something to do with it, they want to be in more control than you are. I think that’s what you were saying. Yep. And you just. You want it to be for y’all so just do let’s like you said and just elope and come back and then hey They’re the ones that’s got to be mad and live with it. Not you So just just you know, do it like you want to do it Yeah, actually if you’re on the same page that makes it super easy Oh, yeah, you got each other and you I mean you need support in any family support you But people who really love you are gonna respect you the decision that you’re making You make, I think. Yeah. Well, I think when you get married, you’re supposed to be going your individual way anyway. And I know you need some support sometime, but you need to be doing it however you want to do it. If you want to do it with your family, do it. But if you want all that headache and all that stuff that goes on with it. Then just go on, get just listen, just invite them to a, to a reception. And if they, if you’ve got a baked potato bar, don’t forget all about it. Don’t forget open bar and potato bar, double up on it. People will not. And there’s mashed potatoes too. Oh, so there’s, it’s a mashed potato potatoes, but then there’s also just mashed potatoes that you could then put the same stuff on top of, which actually is better. I agree with that. Mashed potato bar. And open alcoholic bar. You definitely give them alcohol because Everybody’s, everybody’s They’re all happy, they get those carbs in there, they get alcohol, they think whatever you did was the best decision, you know, for your life. Right, right. Mm hmm. Now, we had some Relatives of relatives, who got, they had a surprise, they were having a, what, they planned a wedding shower, that then when all of the family showed up, it was the wedding, and nobody knew it. Ooh. Isn’t that a, isn’t that a thing? Was there a potato bar? Was there, yeah, isn’t that how it happened, dad? You know what I’m talking about? I’m confused. What are you talking about? Oh no, I ain’t going there. That dog won’t hunt with me. You just go and I’m not going there. I’m just asking in the hype of, like, in not naming any names. Listen, first of all, I’m only invited. Oh, okay. That’s a problem. I wasn’t there. I wasn’t there either. As a matter of fact, this is the first time I ever heard about that. And I might have told my sister. Don’t say names, Dad. We’ll bleep all that out. We’ll bleep all the names. But the way that I heard it, they planned a party, an engagement party. That’s what it was. And then it was the way. And then everybody showed up and they actually got married there. So it was kind of like a a prank your Social experience dad wasn’t invited. Is that the one that lasted or not lasted? Okay, so that is okay, so that’s the other aspect right it’s lasting that is a question because so You know, traditionally, I mean, obviously like going way back traditionally, like the literal, you know, handing off, like when a woman was considered a piece of property, it was literally the father being like, I literally give my daughter to this other man, like that was how the whole thing kind of started, right? So it’s got some problematic roots. Um, but the, the, the cer sort of like what it evolved into is this public ceremony that you’re doing in front of your community and your family and friends where you’re saying that like, we have chosen each other and we’re doing that in the broad daylight of everybody here so that you know that we’re making this commitment to each other. And I think that there’s a lot of Good in that it’s a that’s a that can be very healthy in terms of like with the support of you supporting me and Us supporting each other and us in the in this community supporting our relationship Yeah, but let’s be honest. That is not how the world works anymore I mean most people are so isolated and maybe if you’re in a small town and that There it there’s that dynamic but it usually at this point is like a bunch of people You Who don’t know the other person’s family like most weddings you go to today It’s not two people from the same town getting married and they’re kind of doing it in front of their community It’s like somebody from Wisconsin marrying somebody from Florida and it’s just like you’re getting to know all these people and I’m not saying There’s not a point to the ceremony, but it’s evolved to a place where It feels a little bit ritualistic and a little bit antiquated. Yeah. Depending on, well, this is the finer point I want to put on it. This is where I want to draw the line. And I think it applies to this and the last conversation about engagement. And, Dad, I think this is what you were getting at, too. If it becomes more about a show for everybody else than it does about the two of you, then that’s a problem. So it doesn’t, it doesn’t matter what you do as long as you protect the special part of it that’s about the two of you. And it’s not about everybody else. I mean, me and Christy were so young and our wedding was so big. It was really difficult to make it about the two of us and like our special moment, it really felt it was, there were so many external. Expectations, you know, and I was like, why is this just becoming a an exhibition? Yeah, versus a beautiful beginning And sometimes a party that’s tough. That’s a party for the parents themselves Right, right Well red it could have been like when? Link and his mother and I got married and you know, and this was In 1974, and when I came out of the church, and you know, most of the time, they, back then they threw rice. My uncle dumped a five pound bag of flour over my head. Oh my gosh. Uncle Johnny, you knew it. And, It almost killed you, actually. Yeah. Cause that’ll make you choke. Cause you can’t breathe, right? I mean, it was. It’s like the cinnamon challenge. So I mean, you know. But it was, that made for some great pictures. I mean, yeah. Yeah, the man who was taking the pictures, it was something, but I mean, you know. That was, that was a bit much. It’s just like, yeah. But, you know, that was Johnny. But, you know, it made me mad as hell. Yeah, but because I mean we had a reception and then I mean you’re covered in flour. Oh, yeah. Well, your son then carried on the tradition of getting flour thrown at him. Yeah, I’ve had that done a couple of times. It’s never gone well. It’s what runs in the family. I don’t know. So, you know, the things have changed about how weddings go on. Right. Well, and I think that if you think that your family Is going to be an asset or going to be needed for your relationship to flourish, which, again, in an ideal situation, that’s how it works, right? Like, your parents are a resource, your parents are a support, your friends and family are a resource and a support that enhances your relationship. Then, I think, and they’ve been supportive of your relationship thus far, Mm hmm. And you’ve got the money to do a wedding, then I think that having that ceremony is great because it invites everyone into your love story. But, let’s just be honest, that’s not how a lot of family acts. Right. Sometimes they’re not interested in your love story. They want to dictate your love story. So if that, If that is the way that the dynamic turns out in your situation, then just elope. You don’t feel any, just do it. And put that money towards the honeymoon. That’s right. Yeah. I’m a fan of a trip. Let’s squeeze one more in. Hey, Red Link. This is Nick from Paducah, Kentucky. I’m currently headed to St. Louis to deliver groceries to a towboat. My question is, if you had to name a towboat, what would you two name it? Appreciate it. Love the content. Keep it up. Delivering groceries to a towboat, which I usually call a tugboat. Okay, I like it when you say that. Tugboat. Do tugboats usually have names? Um, I think all boats should have names. I mean, a tugboat is small, but it’s mighty. So, uh, little, little, little, little, little, big, big boy, little big boy. Okay. That’s a good one. Small, but mighty, mighty, mighty, not mighty mouse that already exists. What about something with like with pull, like. Pull out Game Strong. Oh. You know, because Tug of lug. He’s Yep, he’s pulling him out. Um Together again. Yep, because he shows up, he shows up to other boats and is like, We’re together again. I like that one. Um, sometimes, do they push sometimes though? They do. I saw one pushing. Yeah. Right, they can get behind you and they can push. Um, But what did happen to food? Everybody, everybody eats groceries. A tugboat guy’s got to eat too. Oh, I know, but I mean, I didn’t think they stayed, Out there on the water that long, I mean Yeah, is he on another boat going out to the tugboat? It sounds like this might be a Postmates situation. This is Postmates to a tugboat. Um, tugboat Uber. I think if you’re pushing, makes me think of pregnancy. So, I’m like, uh, uh, Well, I’m trying to combine O-B-G-Y-N and tugboat. Tug tug. BGYN. tug G tug. GBYN tug. BGYN. Okay. I like that. Um, no, it’s because the G and tug tug. Gy tug, gynecologist, tug gynecologist. All right. That’s great. I like that. Obstetrician. We need the obstetrician part in there. I don’t know, it’s gonna be a little long. What about tug tugs, nutrition, , tug, , tug one out. Uh, tug it. Tugilicious. Let’s tug about that. I like that. Oh, there you go. Let’s tug about that, because I don’t know if you are actually I don’t know if part of your Uber order or whatever you’re doing you’ve also been given in the notes on your delivery app did they say please name my towboat when you show up? He’s just saying it’s something for us to do. But yeah, that’s a different service. Show up and name my boat. The problem is that he’s already shown up. This is in the past. Unless this is a really long order. Next time he goes out there. When they’re tug gather again, Right. Um, okay. There we go. We’ve named a tugboat. Dad, you didn’t have any names for the tugboat. Uh, no I didn’t. You never named a boat because you don’t like boat. You’re not a boat person. Well, if it’s on the lake, it’s all right, but it’s not in the ocean. I’m not a, I don’t have sea legs. Okay, I got you. I don’t either. Well, we’re going for, um, Tugbgyn. Tugbgyn? Let’s tug about that. We’re sticking with that one. Okay, uh, before we go, I got a quick wreck for you. I was watching, uh, a TikTok, and they were interviewing. It was one of those things that, like, John Turturro was on. And, uh, they were like, what’s your, what are the, your favorite movies of 2024? And he’s like, Oh, Janet planet. It was the first thing he said. I mean, I was, I was like, uh, I haven’t heard of Janet Planet. I hadn’t heard of any of the movies that he referenced. And, uh, but I was like, you know what, I was on the plane coming back from our trip to New York and Janet Planet was on there and I was like, you know what, John Turturro recommended this. I’m going to watch it. He’s like, it’s a beautiful performance from the little girl. That’s really good, actually. And, uh, So, I watched that, and it’s a great movie. Was it like John was there with you the whole time? Yeah, he was like, she’s really doing a great job. But, it, it was, yeah, don’t, yeah, don’t make me keep doing it. So, uh, it’s slow, the slow, there’s slow pacing, uh, there’s not a lot of dialogue. Oh. And it doesn’t have, like, a traditional plot structure. So Wow! Boy, I’m, uh, sign me up! I am so excited now! So I’m just saying that, like, if you’re, if you’re a little bit too much of a normie and you need three acts and a good climax, then this might not be for you. But, if you’re a cinemaphile like me and John Turturro Ha ha ha ha ha! Janet Planet is very heartwarming, and it really is a great performance from this little girl. Uh, I don’t know the actor’s name, but she is really, really good. She actually doesn’t. Oh, cool. That’s her mom. Okay. Uh, Janet Planet. But, I recommend it, you know, take a slow paced evening or afternoon and watch Janet Planet. Dad, are you gonna watch it? Be honest. I might. Be honest. I mean, if I ain’t got a lot to do, you know, I don’t watch many movies, so probably not. Well, it’s fine, yeah, you know, you don’t have to. I’m not gonna watch it either. Based on your description. All right. We’ll talk at you next week. Remember you call us. 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