Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we’re going to figure out what we’re going to prison for. Yep. And then once we get there, what are we going to do with all the time we have on our hands? Maybe make a shank. What kind of shank? Well, we got to figure this stuff out. Better to have a plan. Uh huh. You don’t want to just show up in prison without a plan. So today we’re figuring that out and helping you out as we usually do in the process. Uh, I do have a little update. I, uh, may have just On your eyes? Nope. I may have just broken in to my next layer, Link. I may be laying down my next layer. If I do say so myself. And what pray tell is this? It better not have anything to do with Like I don’t know a projectiles it does if you’re a member of the mythical society Thank you. I am It’s a it’s a valuable place to get exclusive content, right? and one of the things you may have seen over there is that Stevie and I Survived the apocalypse and had to get some tips on how to live on Uh, from a survival expert and I was not present. You would have been there, but you died. I died of COVID that morning. Well, I just wasn’t there because I had COVID. One of the things that we did is archery. And this guy had, he had a bunch of weapons. It was crazy. Um, and one of them was just a bow and arrow. And, you know, he set up this little target and, You discovered that I’ve never had a propensity. I’ve never, never done it. I’ve never shot a bow and arrow. Yes, you have. Well, I mean, there are maybe there are times in which like somebody was like, here’s a, here’s a bow. Shoot this arrow. But like, I had no idea what I’m doing. Yeah, I mean, we were even talking about how been growing up our, you know, third best friend that we talked about many times. He had a compound bow. Right. Which is probably shot at one time. That’s not what you shot in the video. You shot a non compound traditional bow, a compound bow. I remember from back then it has like. So once you get it, you have to pull it pretty hard. Once you get it past that spot, It locks in. It locks in. It stays there. And when you let it go though, Fadoing. Fadoing is the sound it makes. Fadoing. Um, but you were talking about, you were just, you were shooting a regular bow. I think it was for recurve bow, but it was, it was a traditional bow. You were certainly better than Stevie, but you, if I was there, would you have been better than me? Yeah, undoubtedly. Wouldn’t you have loved to have seen that? I’m safe to say yes. Wouldn’t you have loved to have seen it? Um, even the, I don’t, I don’t remember, I haven’t watched the cut, I was there. But, uh, The survival expert was like, you’ve never shot one of these? I was like, I mean, since I was a kid, maybe this one time with Ben, no. And that was a different kind of thing. And so then I go on this. And so I am thinking like, Oh, anytime there’s something I could be interested in. I am interested in it. You know what I mean? So of course I go on YouTube and I start looking. But didn’t your therapist tell you to find? So I started looking at archery culture. In all these archery videos and archery personalities on YouTube is so crazy, man It’s like if there’s something you can care about there’s people who do and there’s people who are making a living caring about it I just love it. And so yeah, I have been looking for something physical I mean, I do a lot of physical things, but something that has like a therapeutic aspect, right? Uh, because my therapist has talked about how oh, it would be good if you had, you know, Something like a martial art or something. I’m like, I don’t want to do martial art, you know It’s like you gotta like go to classes and like I don’t have time or that and already an artist and so I So I tell him about this. I’m like, well, I’m thinking about archery is like That would be perfect. And so it kind of gave me this extra little oomph to follow through. So I started, I like, I watch these videos and I’m like, I want to do traditional archery. I don’t, I’m not like getting a compound bow and going super technical and like, you know, I just want something that’s like, there’s a flow to it. And so. But, and hunting is not really a component of this for you. No, I’m not, I’m not like, I’m not anti hunting. But I like, and I, there are parts of me that like the idea of it. I did it as a kid. I haven’t done it as an adult. But no, that’s not the intention. But I’m, and also, if you’re hunting with a bow and arrow, you have to be really good. Because, it’s not like shooting an animal with a gun, it’s just like, it’s over if you shoot it in the right place. Bone arrow, you can miss and then you’re causing this animal to unnecessarily suffer. Okay, alright, so that’s not your intention. No, my goal is Where, in your backyard with a target? Just a target, yeah, just a target. And so, I figured I could get Shepard into this. And he was, when I told him about it, I was like, Hey, we’re gonna go and get bows and arrows. And he was like, okay. Yeah, he was into the idea. Uh huh, okay. Well, surprisingly, like, uh, It’s not like a lot, there’s like archery people and archery clubs and stuff in L. A. But there’s not like an archery shop. There’s sporting goods stores that have, uh, But I wanted to go to an archery shop because I’m a big man, if you haven’t noticed. And I can’t just walk in and buy a bow and arrow. Because, like, you have to, like, draw a length and stuff. Oh. And I wanted a longbow. So you’ve got, like, the recurve bow is like, they look like traditional bows, but they, literally, the thing, like, curves back. It recurves up. It’s kind of a newer technology. And then a longbow is just like what you, like, what you see in a movie. Like an old bow that’s just a longbow. Just one piece of wood and I call this place in Ventura Bullock’s archery shop two hours away an hour and 20 minutes I’m 30 minutes and I was telling them I was like, I’m a big man You got any big bows and they were in and they were like, yeah, we have a 70 inch long bow It should be big enough for you. So I tell Shepard I’m like, let’s go there. We’re gonna drive there And by the way, totally separate from this, um, about two months ago, it was actually at, uh, it was way longer than two months ago. Was it at your birthday party? I don’t, I can’t remember what it was. There were no bows or arrows at my birthday party. But I was, I was. For the parts I remember. I was in a conversation with somebody and I was talking about how kids are beginning to like nineties music again in the way that we liked seventies music when we were their age. Okay. And our kids are the age of like high school, college now. And And they like these 90s songs and I kind of was like in 90s music is just not that great It’s what I kind of said in that it was like The lyrics are kind of weird and stuff and there’s like people figured out like power chords and stuff Whatever. I was kind of like talking trash about 90s music. Uh huh our good friend mike hears me say this he loves 90s music and Many weeks later. He sends me a playlist. He was like I wanted you you know, I heard you talking about 90s music and I just thought that I think you’re wrong. And I have created a playlist and an accompanying PDF Are you serious? And the, and it was a playlist. And then this PDF that would have the song and then a paragraph about the song. And this, it, it’s significance. Okay. And like who, who would influences today? Like who, who’s on this playlist? Uh, you know, Nirvana, uh, he’s a big Pearl Jam fan. Pearl Jam. Uh, smashing Pumpkins, but also like Tupac, biggie, Lauryn Hill. There was like a whole, there was like a r and b section and hip hop section. Yeah. But you weren’t talking about hip hop. No, I was talking about alternative rock. Like rock. Yeah. Even though I, I liked Nirvana, but we were never like, oh, Nirvana or even, oh, Pearl Jam. We, we would like them but not love them. Yeah. But then like. In listening to this play, so Shepard of course is really into music, and Shepard had the PDF open and we would play a song. Well, we would pause it, Shepard would read the PDF. And then we would play the song. This is on the drive. Yeah, yeah, and then we would, and then we would talk about it. Okay, that’s cool. And this took our entire trip there and back. And then I immediately texted Mike and was like, hey, thank you for providing like the entertainment. That was a great little road trip exercise. And the binding for me and Shepard. And thank you for reintroducing me to some artistes that I. But who stood out? I forgot how much I like because Pearl Jam definitely holds up. Oh yeah. I forgot how much I like Sound Garden. Like we were Sound Garden fans. I was a big sound garden fan. Um, and also ob obviously I’m a their third album, which is weird, like, go ahead. Obviously, I love the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh, was there chili pepper on that? Yeah, I think, uh, Scar Tissue was, was his song that he had chosen. But the interesting thing is that we would listen to a song by, like, say, the Pixies. And then I would tell Shepard, I was like, Okay, I can appreciate this, but there’s something, I can’t tell you why I don’t love this. And then, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I’m like, I love this. And I’m like, I know, okay, oh, it’s got more of a groove or whatever. It’s like a melody, right? Yeah, but we were just kind of analyzing like what makes you immediately connect with a piece of music and not connect with other pieces of music and we had a great discussion and we’re talking about what influences like, you know, cause he’s really into music and, you know, plays and stuff anyway. And in the middle of that, you’re like, hold on, we got to get out and buy a bow and arrow. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, so, um, thank you to the people at Bullocks for, uh, hooking me and Shep up. I got. That I did get the 70 inch long bow and he got like a shorter recurve bow and then we got a target. And then we, when I got back home, I was like, well, where, how are we going to, how are we going to do this at our house in a safe way? A 70 inch, like, what? It’s almost as tall as Shepard. 72 inches? Well, it is tall, it’s tall as Shepard. It’s just when it curves it gets a little bit. That’s great. So when you’re holding it, if I were to hold it, well, it would be my height almost. But if it were on the ground. Well, 6 feet is what, 72 inches? Yeah, so it’s almost as tall as you. Great, where are you keeping this thing? Uh, I got a little, uh, these little, you can’t, I didn’t know this, you can’t just set a bow up in a, in a, in the corner. Cause it’ll It can’t, it can’t support its own weight. You have to set it horizontally. What do you mean you can’t, if you prop it up, it’ll start to Start to deform. Bend more. And you can’t leave the string on either. You have to de string it. Every time. But is that as simple as grabbing it and looping it back over? No, there’s a, it’s not that hard, but there’s a stringer. Like, we got everything that we need. Oh, God. Like this stringer, I mean, it’s like a, it’s like a ten dollar piece of rope, basically. That just like, you can step on, step on it and pull the bow up and it, and the bow like gets, goes loose and then you can reach and grab the string. But we’ve got them on a rack. And then we’ve got, I’ve got this rat coming, it’s coming tonight. And it’s gonna be this thing that goes up outside and it holds the, it holds the target. And then there’s like a sheet of Kevlar behind it so that when you miss the target you hit the Kevlar instead of like hitting the fence or whatever. So you’re gonna be aiming at the fence? And if you go over the fence, that’s your neighbor’s yard. No, no, I shoot into the hill. So I’d have to miss by like 15 to 20 feet, which I’m not going to do. Okay, I’ll come over. But I was talking, no, see, I can’t let, uh, I can’t let strangers, uh, and when I say strangers, I mean strangers to archery. I can’t let just anybody come over and shoot because you’d have to be, you know, you’d have to gain confidence that you would at least hit a Kevlar. Give me a break. Um, but so I’m talking to. The woman who’s helping us out there and I’m like, yeah, my, you know, I’ve never really done this before, but I did it a couple weeks ago or months ago and kind of had a knack for it. And my therapist is like encouraging me to, she’s like, I hear that a lot. Really? She’s like, yeah. And people say. At the end of the day at the end of a hard day you shoot the day away So it’s like well, you know because you’re like shoot the day. It is like it’s there’s so much power in it And I didn’t even mine’s like a 30 pounder. It’s like a beginner bow, but like it the it It’s crazy, like, I’m like, if there was somebody standing right there, it would go right to their head. It’s so powerful. And so you just have, like, you have all this power. Oh, and this is the exciting thing. Is, this is the thing that really excited me the most about it. Is that, when I did it, When we were doing, you know, the thing with Stevie, like I was kind of aiming a little bit, but I didn’t know how to aim it. I was like, kind of just guessing, like closing one eye. Mm-Hmm. . But there’s instinctive, which is you don’t aim. So like if you shoot a basketball, you don’t aim at the basket, the rim, you don’t like line your elbow up and like your, you don’t like close one eye. You just like look. And you get the mechanics down and you just shoot, right? And that was something that I got good at. So there’s a type of traditional shooting, which is the same thing. It’s like, you learn how your mechanics and your, where you’re looking. You are able to get to a place where you just kind of draw it back, look, and let it go. And you’re hitting where you want to hit. Legolas. It’s very, it’s instinctive. And I was like, yeah, I’m not trying to like, win up. Contest or anything. I’m like, it’s like getting into the flow of it. You want to just be walking down the street and just be able to like whip one out and like hit a mailbox. Yeah, when you’re on your walk in your neighborhood. I did string it up last night because you know It just it’s like two days ago. We got it and Jesse hadn’t seen it yet So I like string up my longbow and walk into the living room and I was like Jesse like calling up to her to the bedroom so she could come out and look down into the living room and I she came down and I was like What’s up? What, what do you think ? What do you think? And she was like, and Shepherd had his bow too. She was like, y’all are crazy. . I don’t think it had the, the impact. I mean, are you gonna start carrying it everywhere? You gonna be like, you gonna be like men in tights? Uh, no. But did they sell you tights? Is that part of, I, I didn’t see tights. Are you? I didn’t go around the whole thing, but you didn’t ask about the tights. But I will say, I, I really disappointed that you don’t have tights. I am going to, uh, I’m now. I’m, I’m going to be an asset in, in, in a situation where we need potentially food or defense, or even offense, if we need, you know, like, or just like the activity to pass the time. Yeah. So, yeah, I’ll report back when I start actually shooting things. Do you have a quiver? Target? Yeah. And is it, is it a strap on? Uh, well, they’re, yeah, they’re all strap ons. It’s like a, it’s a cross body belt. No, it’s. It’s a, it looks a little technical. I mean, it’s just a, it’s a belt and it’s like, it’s a belt and the arrows are facing like this, like the feathers are right here, so you can be like shooting and just like pull it out and put it on there. Instead of doing this. Do you need a license to carry it around? Yeah, you don’t want to, you want to, you have it on your hip, now you don’t have it on your back. Right. Do you have to, is there a concealing carry? You have to stuff a bow down your tights? I don’t know what the laws are. There might be laws against this. You know what, you know what let’s do? Let’s, you look into the laws that goes with this, okay? You bought this stuff, you need to look into the laws. This question actually, uh, may come into play in a little bit here. Oh, yeah, you’re talking about prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I’m seeing that now. You know I love to eat. And it is my favorite holiday activity. I know you do. I like to cook as well. Mm hmm. Cooking and eating. Very high on the list of things I enjoy doing. Cleaning? Very low on the list. Cleaning is, is high on my list when it comes to getting like cookware. That’s, that’s how I interact with the cookware in my house. And that’s where Hexclad comes in for me, but it comes in with my family in every, every place. It’s the cookware that’s basically a holiday miracle. Hexclad has the high end performance of stainless steel, but it’s also nonstick. 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You know, the orcs are part elf. Maybe you just have orc blood. That would make more sense. I am insisting on Jesse calling me Legolas though. Um. You know what we’re also doing? You and Katy Perry. Well, you know, we’ve got this channel, Mythical 24 7. It’s a television channel. It’s basically Mythical content, always on. Always running. Roku, Amazon Prime, Plex, and more. And we’re gonna be running a marathon. Oh, we are? Beginning this Saturday. And on Thanksgiving itself. Uh, so we do these holiday marathons where we’re kind of centering around a theme. I’m not exactly sure what. If you have a smart TV, Samsung Roku, whatever you got, but if you want to know mythical 24, seven, you can go to mythical 24 dash seven. com mythical 24 dash seven. com and get all the info you want about all right. All right. Hit us with that voicemail. Hey guys. Um, my father is in the sixties. And good guy, not a, you know, macho guy at all, but when we go to a restaurant, he orders first, um, and typically, you know, customary, the woman order first. So, I wanted to use a way that I can tell him without, you know, kind of making it awkward. And, um, my name is Chris and his name is Dwayne. If you want to, uh, do another podcast, I’ll be sure he listens. Oh, so you want us to talk directly to Dwayne and just go ahead and give him the advice so you don’t have to because you’re afraid it will be awkward to tell him that you should let any women at your table order first. Well, this is actually interesting. There’s an interesting dynamic here because I have thought about this. Very specific situation. Not, not the specific situation of women ordering first, but somebody needing some advice and just getting them to listen to the episode versus yeah, to send them the link, just trying to translate our advice. It’s easy to do on YouTube. And we’re up for that, I guess. So hello, Dwayne. What’s up, Dwayne? Uh, you’re not too macho. You’re a good guy. We like that about you. Well, that’s what we’ve heard. Yeah. The only source that we have, your son says you’re a good guy. He could be biased. Not, not too macho. Let’s explore this for a moment. And, uh, I invite the women in the room, uh, to order first. Oh, you gonna let them speak first? No, no, I don’t know because I’m not gonna encourage you to speak first. The reason I’m not gonna do that is because maybe Dwayne is so progressive Right. Maybe Dwayne is so progressive. Oh, that he recognizes or his opinion is such that the women ordering first is based in some patriarchal system or whatever. And so he’s actively fighting that by taking one for the team and ordering first, or maybe he’s just hungry and he knows what he wants. Because typically. You know, if you’re at a group with what, it doesn’t even matter to gender. It’s like, most people aren’t going to know what they want. And if he’s a man who knows what he wants, he’s maybe he’s just getting out of the way by ordering first. The waiter or waitress, the wait staff should be the one who is making this decision. They, they, they should be looking. You can just defer to them. They don’t always do that, though. Okay, y’all, you guys ready to order? Yes, I believe we are. And then you’re quiet, and you see who they look at first. Well, yeah, you’re right. I bet you they’re gonna look at a woman. But, here’s another thing that’s happening. Just saying. I know, on good authority, because I read at least one article about this. Oh, you did? Um, that, Some in the restaurant industry and the waitstaff are actively trying to do away with this particular custom for the progressive reasons, based on the fact that it’s saying that, like, Oh, it’s based on some idea that, um, it’s based in the tradition that women were not expected to pay so they will order for, I can’t remember, of course, I, you know, I kind of half read the article just enough to talk about it on a podcast. You know what I mean? Without authority or, and probably spew misinformation. Well, talk about it. I’m just saying that some people can be like, this is based in some sort of, uh, idea where we let Women are lesser than. Ladies first, right? Now, before I give my opinion, I’ll ask the ladies first. Yep. What do you think about this ladies first thing when it comes to ordering? Well, for me, because I never know what I want, I always tell people, let me go last. Oh, preemptive. So, I’m a preemptive, like, let me go last, because I also don’t like to order the same thing as anyone else at the table, just because I’m weird like that. You have your own problems. Yeah, basically. You’re, you’re indecisive, but you want to be, um, special. Okay. Yeah. I do understand. I mean, that’s a whole other topic, like not ordering the same thing as somebody else on the table. We’ll have to come back to that. Yeah, put a pin in that. Cause that’s the real, that’s the thing. So you’re, you’re bowing out of this personally. You don’t, you always want to be last. I, yeah, I just want to be last. It’s a lot of pressure. It is, it’s a lot of pressure to be first. Also, but I will say that if like I’m at the dinner table with my family. That’s a woman to handle. If I’m at the table with my family, I’ll be like, I’ll go last. But then I usually gesture to my mom. So I guess I do kind of talk to the women first, if that’s the case. Jenna? I never thought about it before. I usually take cues based on the server and the other people at my table. Um, cause also, working in the service industry so long, there’s, there’s, uh, an easy way of remembering who orders what because you go, In a specific clockwise motion of like, you start with the person on your left, what would you like, and then go around accordingly, and then that’s the seat number. That is associated with that table, so then when you ring it up correctly in, uh, the POS system, you have your seat number, so then when the food is brought out, it could be delivered directly to the correct seat. See, so you don’t, see, so right there, you know enough about the service industry to not cramp. The the server’s style and and mix them up, right? It’s like they have you got to defer to their system Yeah, I don’t want to I defer to the serving system So I go off of the server because also when I worked at Hooters you did ask the woman first What she would like you always started right because there were always women at Hooters. Yeah occasionally Yeah, okay, that makes a lot of sense the practical application So I definitely think that that makes the most sense, but even in my fan I my observation is in a fancier restaurant the part of their system They’ll go around and they’ll ask although they’ll ask all the women at the table. Okay. Well, let’s think about this Just two people a man and a woman together There is no system at this point. Who gets to order first and why? Well, I, I, I think you need more than two people. Cause when there’s two people on a date. There’s lots of times there’s two people. All right. But to me, two people, and this goes back to Jamie’s thing. With me and Christy at, at, at going out to dinner, there’s so much collusion going on. Cause we’re all, we’re both eating off of each other’s plates. I understand that, that you’re coordinating orders. We’re ordering collectively, and then usually one of us will order for both of us, just like summarize the whole thing. Okay. Well, that’s a totally different issue when a man just says she’ll have the so and so and I’ll have the so and so. No, she’s, we’re deciding and then one of us is being the spokesman. Yeah, if it is discussed ahead of time. Of what we’re ordering. I’m perfectly fine with my date ordering my food for me If we have not discussed ahead of time, I expect him to take a cue from me and I go first. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right I think women should have it man. Well, okay, not that they need I have a philosophical I have a philosophical thing that I think might apply to things like Opening the door for women, etc, etc. And that is okay You Things like letting a woman order first or opening a door for a woman may be rooted in some traditional, i. e., sexist framework. But, if the whole point is to, um, undo whatever sexism exists, I don’t think the way that we do that Is by taking away something that we were doing for women even if it was rooted in something that was kind of sexist Which again, I don’t really understand. I’m sure somebody some social Psychologist or social scientists could explain this to me why oh, well, they did this because of whatever But i’m like if I see a woman coming into a place I open a lot of times for a man, too but if it’s a woman I kind of just like reflexively just i’m going to open the door and if i’m with a woman and I am I just kind of like, yeah, I’ll let the, the waiter take the lead, but I’m kind of operating as if she should be the first one to, to order, because I’m just thinking like, okay, yes, I, I am a feminist, and I believe that men and women should have equal rights, but if we’re doing something in the traditional sense that is already benefiting women, Let’s just hold, let’s just keep doing that. Why do we have to take that away? Does that make sense? Well, if it’s, if it’s opening a door for somebody, it’s not that I don’t think they can open their own door. All right. That poor woman, she’s probably can’t open her own door. So I’m going to open it for her on this date. It’s like, no, I obviously know she can open her own door. It’s just a nice thing to do. It’s just a, it’s just a nice little thing to do. Now order you, of course, now ordering first is just a position of, it could be a position of honor unless you’re like Jamie and you’re like, this is a position of pressure. So, but you can honor them and then they might defer. But I think it’s just a little bit of like, I’m putting you like you put some, Put somebody’s needs before your own. Oh, and what if I want to be one of those people that doesn’t order the same thing? Well then, I’m not blocking somebody out. I’m letting them order, and it’s like, you know what? I give you the honor of ordering the fish, and now, because of my deeply held belief to not get the same thing as someone else at the table for reasons that I put a pin in, then, um, I will have to eat something else because I honor your choice to take the fish. It happened to me recently where somebody was ordering It’s honor. And it went around the, it went around the horn, and it was coming to me, and everybody had ordered the same thing. Like five, five people or something like that. It feels odd at a certain point. And it got to me and I was like, well, that’s what I was gonna get. And then did you get it? I changed it up. You did? I changed it up so we didn’t all have the same food. Mm hmm, mm hmm, mm hmm. Even though we weren’t sharing. But it only applies when you’re sharing. But it feels weird even when you’re not sharing. Well, I kind of want to see something else the restaurant does. Yes, exactly. You want to see as much as what the restaurant can offer, and you want to see other people enjoy it. Yeah. And there might be a chance they’ll give you a taste of it, but they don’t have to. Yeah. But that’s an added bonus, but that’s not the reason you’re doing it. Well, I like family style, even if it’s not actually family style and no one’s gonna share with me. I like to, in my head, imagine that I will get to eat all of these things. But I do. I just, like, I can’t decide because I love all foods. So then I just look, and I’m like, oh, I can just look, and then I can maybe ask for a taste, and then I’ve tried five dishes instead of one. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, me and Chrissy got in this huge fight. We were, we took It was, um, Lando, it might have been Lincoln at the time, too, and, uh, Dad and Nancy. We took them out to eat in L. A. like a, a year ago. And, um, the place was family style. And I was trying to point this out while everybody had their nose in the menu. And, like, it was like, It was a weird menu and so like I also thought I would be able to like help dad out a little bit So he wouldn’t have to like decipher what everything was because he already had a bunch of questions Mostly about like do you have Michelob light? But it which they did he had more than one question about that. He had a lot of questions about What do you have? If, if you did have, if you didn’t have Michelob Light, but you have something else like it, what’s the closest thing to Michelob Light? And in what way is it close to Michelob Light? In what way is it close? Like, this is a long conversation. While this was happening, it occurred to me that the place was family style, so I was like, We should just get them to tell us the best things on the menu. Cause we’re going to share it all anyway. And I don’t know what happened. And of course, I’m just telling it from my perspective, but like something about the way that I said it deeply offended Chris and not know you’re on team. Because I remember that time we were at that Chinese restaurant in Sydney. Oh my God. Yes. Oh yeah. We told this story a couple of times, like Brett and Jesse start ordering They start telling everything that they’re really excited about on the menu and start ordering it. Basically, Oh, okay. There was no, no waiter was present. We all sat down at a table and I was like, and so my understanding was that we were going to order family style. And so I was like, I definitely think we got to do some of this. So and so I think is the only thing that I said, it was like a moment of, and we got to do so and so and we got to, and then all of a sudden Christy was like, Hold up a second. And I wasn’t saying not to order anything else. I wanna order for myself. It was like I was beginning the conversation and I do this, if you go out to eat with me, you know I like to eat. So you got people like Link, who when the menus come, he just wants to talk, talk, talk, talk. He’s not looking at the menu, he’s not thinking about what we’re going to eat. I’m like, we’re at a restaurant, we’re not at a talking hall. We’re at a food hall. I love talking halls. And you know what? Once we figure out what the hell we’re going to eat, we can talk all y’all want. But, the sooner we figure this out The sooner we eat and so I I will I will take control not to dictate what we should order but to make sure that like Hey, let’s all get hey, let’s figure out what we’re gonna eat first. Y’all want to do some apps like i’m that guy Yeah, that was misinterpreted as Not I I know what I think we all should eat, but I just heard this peking duck is supposed to be pretty good Everybody got what they wanted. That was a really good restaurant Wasn’t a great experience was it called mr I think it was Chen. I’ll have to look it up. In Sydney. It’s a Chinese restaurant in Sydney. It’s great. It’s been so long. What were we talking about? I think, um, I don’t think there’s anything broken with letting women order first. But how’d y’all get into a fight? Oh, it was a similar thing to that when we were with Dad and Nancy. Cause I started suggesting things to get. I don’t remember exactly how it happened, but I was, I was like, but it’s family style. We should, we can share everything. She’s like, no, people, let people order what they want. Let people order what they want. Why don’t you just let people order what they want? I’m like, well, cause everything can be true. Yeah. Yeah, we kind of took we kind of retreated to our sides of the ring at that point. Yeah for the From then until the food came out. It wasn’t we weren’t talking to each other But then it got a little better because the food was decent so Dwayne, thanks for hanging on for this conversation Dwayne dude, just don’t order first. Let someone ask you don’t order until somebody asked you. Okay? Yeah, just just get out of the way dude. You’re a good guy. Yeah. Yeah, I’m you know, I know you’re hungry Nothing against being 60 or whatever you are. I know you’re probably not making the progressive choice here, and that’s fine I know you’re probably just not thinking and you’re like I’m hungry and I want to order this stuff But so I would just say take a step back and see if any of the ladies at the table You know seem like they want to order first and then don’t eat the food until everybody’s food gets there doing Unless, unless they say go ahead, unless everybody’s like, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I don’t want your egg to get cold. Egg’s not good when it’s cold, but I do. I don’t know why you ordered egg. If somebody says go ahead, go ahead. Don’t do what I used to do. If they say go ahead, I’m like immediately taking a bite. Just be like, you sure? So they can be like, yeah, I’m sure. And then you eat, but then don’t, and then you eat until it’s gone. And don’t talk to him until, yeah, don’t do that. That’s what he does. Eating is something you can do while talking. No, Jesse’s the same way. Jesse eats almost as fast as me. And we will sit down, especially if it’s one of those restaurants where they bring something and then they take it away and bring something else. We realized that we would just. They’d bring the food, we’d start eating, and we wouldn’t say anything until it was gone. And then we’d be like, that was good, and then we would talk. Hey, at least y’all aren’t on the same page. Because it would take 90 seconds to consume whatever it was. It’s like Barbara and Sean. Yeah, y’all going dog with it. So, but we did, we have now become conscious of this. We’re gonna be like, hey, let’s take a few bites and then let’s stop and let’s talk. We like to eat so much that we forget about it. But when we, now that we, we, we stop ourselves and say, hey, let’s talk a little bit. But you can talk when it’s over. It’ll still be there. You have plenty of time when you’re done wolfing it down before the next thing. So it’s the same amount of talking either way. One would argue you might get more talking in by wolfing it down. But you have the opportunity to like slow down. Because what happens is when they come, the waiter comes back, sees that the thing is gone, they bring the next thing. Yeah. And we start pacing, outpacing everybody in the restaurant. Yeah. I love to win, but I don’t think there’s a prize for this. You’re leaving early. The winner is the waitstaff. They gotta turn their table over. You’re like their best. They love me. Yeah, you’re their best. Jesse and I went to this uh, Thai restaurant. And we did have some place to be. We were in and out of there in about 18 minutes. I mean it was absolutely, as soon as we ordered, within like three minutes they brought the dishes out because it’s like a place where like, they’re just constantly making the same stuff. And we didn’t do an appetizer and we didn’t do a dessert. So it was just like, we were done and I was like, I feel bad. She’s like, what else are we gonna do besides sit here? We can go walk around. I was like, oh yeah. Yeah, maybe talk but nope. Well no, there was about 20 people in the restaurant. Lobby waiting to get seated. Oh, well, okay. And so I was like, well, we’ll free up a table and we can go on a walk Let’s hear another Hi, Rhett. Hi, Link. My name’s Alana and I’m here with my best friend Izzy. Hi She showed me your old show like years ago. So we’ve been following. We have a scenario for you If you’re in prison one, why would you be in prison? And two, what would you make your shank out of? Okay, that’s it. Love you guys. Bye! I love this question. What are we each in prison for and what are we going to make our shank out of? Because like I said at the top, you gotta be ready for this. You don’t want to just wake up one day in prison and not be prepared. So, um, why are we there? We should, we should think for a minute. Um, why, I’m actually thinking about you. Well, I know why you would be there. Because you gave me your bow and arrow? Accidental death of some sort. I was thinking about accidentally hitting somebody, um, the other day. I, well, I’m not considering it. I’m just, I’m just saying, it crossed my mind. With what, your fist? With my car. Like, what if I hit somebody? I just feel like, I feel like that could happen. You got really close to that pedestrian and ended up being a fan. And, yeah, and my instinct is to, I mean, it’s horrible. I mean, like, I’m not saying I would do this. Your instinct is to run people over? No, but it’s to run after. Oh yeah, no. First of all, I, I wouldn’t do it. You have to tell yourself I wouldn’t do it. You, I, and I’ve had to do, I’ve never been in a situation like this, but, but I’m a runner boy. Anytime I see a story I do about a hit run, I said, it’s not even wrong. And I think about running, I think, I think to myself, anytime I see a story about a hit and run, I think I know that person. Some people are just bad people who do hit and runs, but a lot of people are just people who don’t know what to do and they make it. You have to, if you get in that situation. It is always going to make more sense and be much less consequential to stop and accept the consequences. Do not run. This is, this is good for me to hear. This is the reason why my prison sentence is less. Right. Because I don’t know what it is. I, I, I’m gonna, I’m gonna blame it on my shame complex. Well, so, the reason that you would go to prison is because you ran. And then when they caught you. Because I didn’t mean to do it. And then I was so scared. Yeah, for you it would be accidental death. But I did come back. By the time I came back, nobody was there. Does that help with the defense? No, then they’re just waiting for you. You think they’d be waiting there? I mean, like the cops This is kind of morbid. I don’t, I don’t really like joking about this because it involves hitting another human, which I don’t I don’t, maybe this isn’t why I went to prison. Let’s go a little more playful or, or like, uh, maybe embezzlement. I bet you could do that. I bet you could be stealing money from me right now. And I didn’t know, I was thinking, boy, I’m, I’m sending you to the slaughter. I was thinking about the, before we get into embezzlement, as I was figuring out where I’m going to put this target in my backyard, I was like, I’m not, I’m not going to accidentally shoot into the neighbor’s yard because of this, this The physicality of the situation, but I was like, what above you? And there’s a big berm, but what if, like, what if that did happen? What if there was an errant arrow and it just happened to go into someone? Like, what would the punishment for that be? Well, you could run in your house. I’d get in bed. That’s what I would do. I’d run and I’d get in bed. I would get rid of all the evidence of me ever shooting a bow and arrow. And they would bring up this podcast. Podcast, yeah. It’s just like, you’re screwed, man. This is premeditation. Like you were talking about your neighbor earlier. I think that, you know, I’m just, I don’t think either one of us is a lawbreaker. But I could imagine that somebody who was doing something for us and not, I’m not saying anybody is actually doing this, but I’m just saying that, like, I could imagine a scenario in which for some reason we were, um, what is the word I’m looking for? Where you get drawn into something against your will and your Ponzi scheme. I want to say the word implemented, but that’s not the word. Accomplice? In a way? No, it’s like, you get, you are blanked in a crime. Implicated? Implicated. Yeah. Oh, we can get falsely accused? Or it could be like, well, you’re technically in charge of this thing that this person did that is illegal. That’s my story. And now you’re implicated and now you have to go to like some, uh, you know, white collar crime prison where they kind of let you get, they let you, they let you walk around and you could probably climb the fence if you wanted to, but you probably won’t because it’ll just make it worse for you. Yeah. Those are not really email. You have a laptop? Yeah. There’s not necessarily, that’s not a shank prison. But you can’t hurt to have a shank. I’m still not, Jenna are you satisfied with why we’re going to prison? Like, did you have an idea of why we would each be in prison? Uh, I can’t see you all doing anything that would put you in prison except accidental. What about, I think Rhett will go to prison for some sort of like, um, like, acquiring some illegal Not drugs, but some illegal medical device or something that was like that you were trying to Something that you were trying to help yourself. Like, I’m gonna, I’m buying this thing in order to help with my back pain. Or something. But it turns out Like I’ve got a half champanzee, half human in my garage that I’m taking stem cells from? It’s like an illegal import that you Yeah, you’re like You’ve gotten on the black market somewhere. You’re like importing This is good, because I would do that. I do something like that. Something I was like, this shouldn’t be wrong. Right, you’re going to be in prison for like 20 years and then it’s going to become legal. It’s like, um. And then I’ll be a folk hero. You’ll be a folk hero for your, your gorilla. Everyone has half man, half chimpanzee in their garage now. Everyone’s getting stem cells from those. It’s just the body though, there’s no head on it. Oh yeah, he doesn’t have a conscience. Right. He doesn’t have a conscious experience. It’s just, it’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s like the, it’s a lab for growing things. It just happens to be, it looks a lot like a chimp human body. And a lot like me too though, because it’s compatible with me. Yeah, and you hook up to that thing every night. Maybe it’s half pig, half me. People found it. With no head. You know, like, you left the garage door open, somebody hit the thing, and then somebody walked by and they saw it, and like, and then you’re All the wires and tubes. You’re being arraigned. Yeah. You know, can’t leave the county. That’s the type of thing that’s putting you in prison. Some weird chimp human hybrid intravenous something. Yeah. I can see that happening. Yep. Yep. Yep. And I’m, I’m just, uh, hit and run, I guess. I’d, uh, I’d make What kind of shank are you making? I’d make, I’d make a poop shank, without a doubt. Oh my god, what are you talking about? What do you mean a poop shank? You make a shank out of your own poop. I mean, the level of constipation necessary for such a Well, it’s during the adjustment to prison food. Oh, period. And, um, it can be as hard as a rock. And then you dry it in the right way. And probably mix in some fiberglass or something. You probably get your hands on some fiberglass. You gotta, you gotta create a little bit of a substrate. And, uh, and that way, it’s an instant infection. Oh. To, to whoever you shank with it. Mm hmm. I don’t want to shank, I mean, I was thinking like, you know, I What’s wrong with like a good mechanical pencil, you know? But then I think once I did shank them once with a mechanical pencil, then they’re taking away my mechanical pencils. And how am I going to do my mechanical pencil art? Yeah, that was the main thing that was keeping me lucid here in prison. So I don’t want to shank anybody with something that I need for other reasons. You know, they’re not going to let you poop. They’re going to make you collect it and turn it in every time. Yeah, yeah, you don’t want to do that. There’s a long plate of making a shank. You got to do the thing where they let you go to the uh, computer labs and stuff like that, libraries, for like further education. And then maybe get a piece of motherboard. Or like you can bust open the keyboard and there’s something in there. Um, you could, I think you could, you could carve down the weird end of a toothbrush with your teeth. I don’t think they let you, they, I don’t know what they give you for a toothbrush in prison. Are they real floppy toothbrushes? The number of things that they have to think through like this. Yeah, everything’s, I guess everything’s soft in prison. Not everything. I don’t know. I don’t know. You didn’t say what you thought I’d be in for, Jenna. I didn’t. But I can see, like, involuntary manslaughter. Mm hmm. As, as something that would happen. Yeah. There’s actually a pretty good chance that’ll happen. I mean, like, I mean, not a good chance, but like, I’d say to me five, I’d say five to 10. Like, I would say that you’re like, if you’re ranking people who might go to prison for that on a scale of one to 10, you’re on the upper end of the spectrum. You’re not a 10, but you’re probably a seven or eight. I think I would be, I think it would be something that would just be, it would start with trespassing for me. Like I would, I’m fine with being in a place I shouldn’t be, cause I’m not going to do anything wrong. But then. Let’s just say I get framed for something like there’s a murder and and somebody was dropped into this pit And then I’m I just happen to be looking around and so like I’m the only one there But you have a tendency to react and they find the pit in unpredictable ways Like if if you were trespassing and you were caught I’d run again But like you know It’s like we were together and we trespass which we’ve done before and they show and the person shows up and they’re like I always play the, like, oh, I didn’t, you know, I’m sorry, we didn’t realize, yeah, I’m, I, that’s my vibe, right? I diffuse. Uh huh. Whereas if you’re the first one to speak, you’re like, why can’t we be here, huh? You know what I’m saying? Like, what, why? Like, we, we can easily get ourselves out of here. We don’t have anything to do with the body and the pit. Oh, I got, I got caught trespassing in North Carolina last time I was there. Yeah, I was, um, I was taking a little walk and I was out near the, uh, I was way up in the middle of nowhere. Um, and one of those inlets, one, not the news river, but one of those mini likes inlets at the beach. Yeah. And I’m taking a walk and I mean, I am in the middle of nowhere. Like there’s not a grocery store within half an hour. Like that’s how far out in the middle of nowhere this place is. And I’m walking around by myself and. There’s just a dirt road going into the woods. So you take it and see no signs. And so I’m just like, well, this is a cool little dirt road. I start walking on the dirt road and it’s like, it’s going and going and going. And then I come around, um, a curb, curve, and there’s like a teenage kid walking and he, I startled him a little bit. He startles me a little bit because I just like nobody back here and I don’t know where this road goes and I’m like, how you doing? And he was like, good. And he, but he kind of looked at me a little funny, but then he kept walking. I was like, Hmm. Yeah. Who is this? You’re alone. Where is he going? You’re both alone. Yeah, and so I keep walking and then I start hearing a car coming from the entrance and it’s like I can tell that they’re going very fast, and, like, speeding up, and then Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Going around a curve, like, coming at me fast. What? And I’m like, So, what I did Ran in the woods. Is, no. Just run, run, man. I turned around Get in your bed. And start, this again, this is where my brain works. I turned around and started walking towards where I heard the thing coming from. Because I was like if I’ve trespassed and this person is coming after me and I’m walking further into their property I’m gonna go ahead and calmly be walking out of their property Okay And they come up because then it’ll just be like what I was just on a walk cuz I was Sure enough the guy comes around the corner and he’s like And he gets out of the car gets out of the car slams on brakes gets out of the car And this is backwards North Carolina. Like I know he has a gun. There’s Zero percent chance that I’m wrong about that. He has a gun and so I’m like, he got out of the car. Yeah Yeah, how old was this guy? What did you see? He was in his 20s? Okay, and he was like, can I help you? And I was like just taking a walk man. And You and your hippie hair Wearing and I probably look like a yoga instructor. Yeah, regardless of the situation and just I’m just taking a healing stroll through the And he said, well this is a private property. And I was like, oh really? I didn’t see any signs, cause there weren’t. And then he was like, well, we had to sign up but we took it down because we’re doing some work. And I was like, oh man. Work. I love good work. I’m heading right out. And then he was like, well, I’m not saying you’re a bad person. He said, he said, did you feel like he was saying you were bad? What I’m saying is that I’m just telling you my diffusing skills. I made him apologize to me. All he ended up apologizing to me. I’m not saying you’re a bad person, but we have a lot of crazy people around here. Damn, I would have killed him and had to bury him And he’s like, just a couple weeks ago, there was a naked man coming through here. Yeah, I meant to tell you about that. I ran, though. He didn’t catch my ass. And so then I was like, what? Oh, that’s crazy, man. And he’s like, yeah. I said, well, Hey, thanks. I’m just going to walk right out. And I, and I did. But again, I got, he’s commiserating with me, telling me about naked men. He said, I’m not trying to say you’re a bad person, but there’s a lot of crazy people around here. So what I’m saying is if you had been either by yourself or with me, you’d be dead. Well, Somebody would be. Yeah. Cause he was ready. He was ready to fight. Woo. He came in hot when was the other person in the cab of the truck? I don’t know. I didn’t see the kid. I didn’t see it was a SUV. He may have been in the back. And if you had that bow and arrow though. Then I would have been a threat. I would not just walk into the woods on some random dirt road with my 70 inch long bow. You can’t just be going around with that thing. You’re a target at that point. But your therapist told you to do it. Hey, my therapist told me to do this, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m just doing this for therapy. I’m trespassing because my therapist told me to be here. Yeah, 70 inches. Yep. Right here. Yeah, man. It’s gonna be ironic when you’re the one locked up. I’m on the other side of that glass talking to you on the phone. Asking about the friendships you’re building in there, you know, I didn’t you know, my thing is like could I get buff in prison? I really think that genetically I I just I I I’m not able well, you never we never tried I’ve really i’ve tried i’ve tried on many occasion But like are the people who are bulk in prison are they bulked before they went into prison and they’re just maintaining? Well, a lot of other people who really make a transition to bulk when in prison Because they they get the food is rationed you think but you know No, but you can get enough. You can get enough. You don’t eat enough food to get bought. You can’t get bulked up easy. Well, but prison is the, that’s the silver lining for me, right? Wait, I mean, weights, calisthenics, little wind sprints. You could finally read a book. Yeah. I really started reading. I really don’t feel like I need to go to prison to read, but to work out, you read a lot though. Maybe think about what you’d read. Well, but, but they can’t give you things like how to make a shank. They probably gleaned all of that out of the library, carefully screened. Yeah. So I don’t know. Let’s take one more. Hey guys, this is Katrina calling in from Madison, Wisconsin. I’m super excited to finally be calling in. I watch every single episode of Ear Biscuits and I’ve just always really wanted to call in my boyfriend and I, we’ve been dating for two years and counting. We’re very happy, you know, green flags all around, but I’ve been noticing this pet peeve of mine that’s been developing for some time now and I don’t know what to make of it and it revolves around his fashion sense. I would call it out of date. I also don’t think it’s the most flattering to his physique as it could be. And, lastly, like, the caliber of our outfits, particularly on date nights, is pretty different. And so, I don’t really know what to make of it. Should I, as his girlfriend, help him out? Or Am I being an asshole? And is this something super superficial? Have you guys ever had this issue in your relationships? And if so, what did you do? Um, really looking for your advice here. So, thank you guys so much in advance. Wow. Is it superficial to have a negative or critical opinion of your significant other’s fashion choice? Or lack thereof, doesn’t seem like he’s making many active choices when it comes to what he’s wearing. Well, to be clear, yes, it is the definition of superficial. However, a little bit of superficiality is, you know, part of our culture. I mean, I mean, look at us. You know what I’m saying? Like it’s just look at him. You gotta know that it’s superficial, but there’s nothing wrong with it because now, but again, because this is about, this is about matching the energy here, right? Like if you didn’t care about it and he didn’t care about it, which Well, you all know that couple, you all know the couple that doesn’t care about and that’s fine. You know, they’re matching their energy. That’s good, but it’s the mismatch in energy here that we, that we have to rectify because you obviously do care about it to a certain extent and it doesn’t have to be a complete match. No, and you don’t have to have the same fashion sense as your partner and you don’t have to look exactly the same. Like, I would not ask Christy to go out on the limbs that I go out on. At times, yeah, but you gotta be within, you gotta, you gotta close the gap a little bit here, and there’s a couple of ways you could do that. One way that we should consider is going off of the indication that he doesn’t care personally, because if his stuff is outdated, that means he’s not actively looking and trying things that say aren’t working. It’s just that. He’s not trying anything. He’s not adding to his repertoire. And I would say, um, so that, yep. Four times out of five, roughly a person who dresses in this way actually would like a little bit of help. Doesn’t have direction. So 20 percent of people are just like, no, I don’t care. Like I literally do not care, but most people. Are like, yeah, but they can be kind of afraid to begin, like some people got bad haircuts. Let’s just be honest. A lot of people got bad haircuts. And there’s a lot of people who know that they have a bad haircut. Wish they could fix it. But the idea of changing. Making a change is so intimidating to them and so like I don’t like to draw attention to myself I don’t want to like who do I talk to about this like I’m just you know What the easiest thing to do is just to stay with this bad haircut Even though they know in their heart of hearts is a bad haircut But there’s only some people a small percentage of people who have a bad haircut know it and don’t care Right. You know what I mean? So you got to assume that he actually is willing to accept help, but just doesn’t know how to help himself in this situation. But you might end up in an extreme place where Instead of there being something collaborative, now you’re just in charge of dressing the guy. And there’s, there’s, there’s scenarios where that works, but I’m not a big fan of that. Well, you’re not a big fan of that because you like to take control of your own fashion, but there’s a lot of guys. Who if their wife would just dress them, they would be incredibly happy. Or their girlfriend would dress them. I’m just saying. Yeah. And I think that can be a beautiful arrangement. And you could probably do it without taking them shopping, too. Cause then it’s just like, bringing, you can take stuff back. Take stuff home. Have a little fitting. Make a little, make a little thing out of it. Make him, make him be a model for you. Well, you need to do that. What is that thing? Dangle a little sex. I think they were a sponsor. You know, no, we’re not, you don’t need to manipulate with sex at this point. Oh, okay. Not yet. Let’s see if we get there. Okay. All right. All right. Um, there was that service. I think they were a sponsor at one point. Stitch Fix? Yeah. Or the other one? I think it Or the other one? There’s ones where they’ll send you this, the things, and then like, And you can just get it to him, get it for him as a gift. Yeah. And just be like, hey. Because if you don’t like the stuff, you send it back. And if you like it, you wear it. Yeah, that’s the whole idea. There it is. I mean, I don’t know. Right there. And it’s, it’s different, there’s different genres, but it, like, you can have like business or cat, business casual, or you can have like active wear or something like that. And then you can work within that. And nothing’s really that risky. They put it together for you, just wear it. That seems like the easiest thing. And it’s a subscription service. I mean, if we were sponsored by it. We’d be saying the name right now, but I mean, that was in the past, but there is a completely different avenue that you could take, which may be equally advisable body paint. No. What I was going to say is you stop caring. Oh, because no, no, no. Listen, because here’s what I’m going to say. I actually aspire. To be less superficial. I just can’t bring myself to do it. Right? And so i’ve kind of given up on it I’m on camera too much people have opinions about the way I look it’s very difficult for me to not care about the way I look i’m not superficial and i’m not going to give up on it. It’s a form of Self expression and it’s I mean the closer an extension of you as a person. It’s a personality extension Okay, that’s a that is a charitable view of it that I don’t disagree with but it is my personal view. Hold on You But if there’s a monk, I feel attacked. Okay. Hold on. But let’s just be, I’m well, I started by saying that I was superficial. So what I’m saying is that I know didn’t attack. I’m more superficial than a monk. Right, and I think that monks are probably happier people that if we all just said, you know what I’m not gonna Like it’s one thing to be like I’m expressing myself. It’s another thing to care about how it’s perceived Those are two kind of different things, right? Okay, are you dressing for yourself? Are you dressing for other people? Most people are doing it for both some combination of both and I’m saying the part that is for other people Which is a totally natural human instinct We’re, we’re a social species. We’re sending signals to one. I ain’t about to start letting go and not care about the way I look. Don’t worry, but you’re telling this person to do that. I’m just saying that if you found somebody who doesn’t care what they look like and they’re well adjusted and you can join them in that you may end up being the happiest couple of all. There may be a happiness quotient that you will achieve that the rest of us superficial people are not are incapable of. I don’t want to hold you back from that if that’s an option. I’m just saying you could settle if you can’t, if you can’t make it to that high mark, which you shouldn’t. Capsule collection. I mean, just stuff you can throw together and mix up. If you have like five different things, you see those TikToks where it’s like, There’s the men with the suits and they’re like brown suit gray suit black suit Navy suit and then two black turtlenecks two green turtlenecks and then you can switch everything I always get a kick out of those. I don’t really do that But I just think that’s that’s an answer and and I can just see it in a closet and it makes me really Secure feeling that like oh I can and that’s why i’ve started wearing more I like wearing a white t shirt and then I like putting different stuff around it And if you can be, you can be a white t shirt person with different stuff around it, but like having a way that you can approach where it’s not like. My wife told me to wear this, and now that’s the one thing I got to wear, and until we got it, I got to save up enough money to get eight of those, eight outfits. No, you don’t want outfits, you want pieces you can mix and match. But you, but you can get someone to do that for you. But there is something here, there’s another thing that we’re kind of talking about. Like, I don’t go to church anymore. Don’t have plans to go back. Um, but I still observe church culture, right? And I remember when I was in church, I used to, I had a lot of judgmental opinions about pastors and priests who were in certain denominations who dressed in a uniform. I thought that like, The whole, like, Catholic garb or, I thought that that was like, I was like, it’s weird that they dress up in some, some way to like set themselves apart or whatever. That, of course, I was completely missing the point. Because the opposite end of the spectrum is what I see in Los Angeles is these super cool pastors wearing these incredible clothes and being so cool. And let me just tell you right now, I may, I’m not saying I don’t respect somebody who dresses cool. Link dresses cool, I respect him, I love him. But if he was my pastor, I would not trust him. I would not trust him! I don’t trust anybody to give me spiritual leadership that cares that much about what they look like. If your pastor is not a little bit dorky, He’s up to something. I’m just telling you probably I’m just saying he and maybe he’s not up to something yet But he’s got a door open to it It raises it raises Questions in that context of priorities in that in that spiritual formation context This person who because you know how much I’m not a pastor You know how much time it takes you to figure out what you want to wear It takes me a long time to figure out what I’m gonna wear. Oh, yeah, like do I want This pastor who’s supposed to be offering me spiritual leadership to be spending that much time figuring out what he looks like? No, and they’re like, well, yeah, but he’s in a cool environment and he’s trying to be relatable. You can stretch that analogy as far as you want. Don’t give me that. You know what I’m saying? I’m just, I’m just saying that like, I know that I’m superficial. I know that I’m superficial. I think I recognize it, but I’m just saying, when I see somebody who I can tell they do not care about what they look like, like people who are doing the real work in the world, who are getting their hands dirty, who are like doing amazing things for people, serving people, They’re not cool in the traditional sense, most of the time. I’m just saying, unless you’re like Bono. Yeah, I know. But even Bono, like he’s a really cool guy. I mean, and he’s doing all this stuff, but like there’s, I, ego recognizes ego. Bono has an ego. He’s the, he’s a rock star. Do you know what I’m saying? Well, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that necessarily, but if he doesn’t recognize it within himself, then he’s got to, he’s got to open door to having that ego taken advantage. All right. So maybe, maybe. Maybe she’s the one who needs to walk through the door, you know, become get a little bit closer to being a monk, like your pastor, uh, partner, you know, maybe to encourage your partner to become a pastor. Yeah, right. That’s where this is. This is, I think we need more. We need more of these lame ass dressing pastors. Yeah, that’s what we need in this world. I’m just gonna say right now I don’t have any plans to go back to church But if I ever do go back to church, it will be at a church where the person is wearing a uniform It would you say you call it a uniform. I don’t know what they call it regalia I don’t it will not be somebody who’s got cool clothes on I am never going back to that And I never did that, but I’m just saying, I’m not, it’s not where I’m going back, man. It’s just like, I get it now. You wear this because it takes that out of the equation. It takes the way you look out of the equation. But I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying, Hey, why don’t we go out and buy you, but get you, find you something. That’s probably the solution. That’s probably the solution. Make a party out of it. He could be really setting himself up for success. Well, we did it again, Link. And, uh, we cherish your phone calls. Leave us a voicemail. If you want to challenge us, with I’d like to see you try it. A sen Ha ha ha ha ha! Uh, a real world scenario. Or, um Or a philosophical quandary or anything in between. If you need to respond to us, we accept it all. 1 888 EAR POD 1 and we’ll talk at you next week. Hey Rhett and Link. It is Stephanie from Raleigh, North Carolina. Go Pack. I was just at Target wearing last year’s Good Mythical Evening t shirt, the cashier Said she loved my shirt, so we got to talking, and she said she became a fan, sorry, wait, sorry, she became a fan because of Wonderhole, and I thought that was so cool, and I had to call and let you know. Okay, bye! 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