Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I’m Rhett. And I’m Link. This week at the roundtable of him lighting, we’re going to help you sketch a nude model. We’re going to help you deliver a baby. We’re going to help you pronounce words that Rhett can’t say. We’re going to have a good time. Even though. I don’t feel great. I think Emotionally? Physically. Spiritually? Physically. Physically. I just feel like my stomach’s a little off, my head’s a little off, and you know what I think it is? I think it’s alcohol. Oh, because we had alcohol last night. I consumed alcohol last night, and I’m not gonna say that I’m hungover. Because I’m not hungover, I didn’t, I don’t have a headache, but I just have an offness that, you know, now that everybody’s talking about Alcohol being poison? How, how much of it, how, how poisonous it is. Um I’m interested to see, see, Maybe it’s, I’m manifesting it, but because I don’t believe in that really, I don’t think. Maybe practically, but not metaphysically. I don’t, I just don’t know about manifestation, but I, I think. I think I’m noticing that I don’t really want to drink alcohol. Well, I was Especially last night, because now I’m waking up and I’m feeling I’m feeling gross, but hey, you know, it was a party and we had to go to the party. Yeah, I’ve got, I’ve got bad things going on. Me, you, and Stevie went to the party and now you’re looking at your aura ring. My ring knows that I had a bad night last night too. And all I had was. What is, what, what, what are you learning specifically? Well it just said. I’m not wearing my ring. I’m not even wearing my wedding ring right now. I just, my hand, I’m in a free time right now for my hands. Oh, are you getting into, What are you doing? Sculpting? Um, I did something. I can’t remember the day before yesterday. Oh, I got, I got some new speakers. I was putting them in at the creative house. We’ll tell you about the party in a second, but now I need to tell you about these speakers. I got other speakers for the creative house. Did you see those? Oh, my speakers are a lot bigger than your speakers. I just got new monitors for the studio. You got a little dinky studio monitor. I got some big ass house speakers for, to complete my DJ set up at the creative house and when I’m unboxing these things You had to go bare hand? I had to go. I took my rings off because I didn’t want my ring Scratch to scratch the speakers. Did you take a shower before you unboxed them? Like I did the first time I ever had a MacBook The first MacBook I ever received which what year would that have been? 2005, 2006? You were definitely a grown ass man, taking a shower before opening a laptop. I was a grown man, with a child. And I, I received it in the mail. It was a big moment and I took it out and I, and then I never seen an Apple product before like that. And I like, looked at the box and then I started to touch it and then I was like, I need to shower. And then you, you backed off I went upstairs, I took a shower. , I tucked my shirt in. Put my black turtleneck on. I came downstairs and I unboxed it because I didn’t want, I could have just washed my hands. I washed my hands, but I didn’t take a shower. This is the only time I’ve ever showered before encountering a piece of technology. I can’t say that I look forward to the next time, honestly. If you gotta take a shower to be ready for a piece of technology, it’s probably worth your time. Yeah. Anyway, you didn’t shower, but you took your rings off. Yeah, and um now I haven’t put them back on because, I’m like, you know what, I’m gonna give my hands a little freeness. But you know what you, you, you do by doing this? Is you, there’s a type of person, uh, I’ve noticed that there’s not a small number of them, that take any indication, or anything that happens, Link’s not wearing his wedding ring. Link’s not doing this. Rhett’s not doing it, and then they just take it and they run with it. They make stories of it in their heads. Me and you have actually, in part, them to thank for continuing to be relevant, Link. Because if people who made baseless assumptions, uh, based on minor observations didn’t exist, I think we’d be out of business. Huh. Yeah, it definitely churns the conversation. Right. So. All press is good press. Well, probably not. Back to the party last night. We went to, uh, we went to the Billboard Music Awards party, um, which I thought we were going to the Billboard Music Awards until I realized that they weren’t happening. They weren’t happening. Apparently a company has acquired both Billboard Music Awards and the Streamy Awards. And their first course of action was to not have the awards. Either one of them. So I don’t know What the hell’s going on there? if that means we get, you know, in the grand scheme of a career, maybe we get one less Streamy. I’m not gonna say we’re gonna win a Streamy, but we could, we always could win a Streamy. You think they’ll double up next year when they come back? No. You’re telling me that 2024 is gonna be the year that was forever lost. Yeah, yeah, I think they’ll just, cause the Billboard, they gave out the Billboard Awards without a ceremony. They didn’t even give out Streamys at all. But the, exactly, but they had, so that kinda hurts my feelings. Yeah, I’m hurt. I’m, I’m, I’m barely over it. But we did go to the party. Like the after party that came after nothing. And um, you know, I was, I was interested because You know people who make music. It’s music people and I like, I like schmoozing with music people. Me and Stevie just sat in the corner, talked to each other about television shows. I moved you at one point though. Cause, I made a round, and then I came back. If you find somebody interesting, I’ll come join you. Yeah, I, I, I, y’all posted up, and then I made a round to see if I could find somebody worth coming back and telling you that you should now talk to them as well. I really like when Stevie goes to a party with us, because I can just be like, okay, I’ve got somebody to talk to because if me and you go to a party, you just go off on your own and then I’m just like, I don’t like doing this. I think I’ve definitively decided that I just do not like the atmosphere of a party. I’m just, I’m just finally just kind of like a party of people that I know or a party of people that I would like to know. I’m all game, I’m game for that. But a party of people who I kinda don’t care to know. Well, but you, but how do you know unless you talk to them? Sometimes you can just look. Oh gosh, you could, there’s people, there’s good people to meet and talk to everywhere, Rhett. I think it’s all about the ratios though. You’re just willing to give it a shot. I think it’s all about the ratios. No, you just send me out. And you know what, honestly, I was with you on this one last night. I went to the, I made the round. Um, I saw and I struck up a conversation with hip hop and TV dating legend Flava Flav. I did not tell him that he was like, my like, middle school hero for some reason. I just thought he was the best, he was just so funny and hype. I always loved the hype man, you know Chuck D Was he was a little too, um, you know, Thoughtful? A little too thoughtful. Hahahah I had to go with this a guy who knew what time it was because he wore it as a clock. You identify with the guy who is known mostly for saying, yeah, boy. Yeah, yeah. To whatever Chuck D said. Right. It does say a lot. But, I mean, it’s like, You know, even driving home I was reflecting on it because I did decide, I’m not gonna get Stevie and Rhett to meet Flava Flav. Yeah, I’m okay with that. I love him. I follow him on Blue Sky. My, um, my thought on the way home about Flavor Flav was, man, if middle school me would know that I had just met Flavor Flav and I didn’t even think that much of it. Oh, oh, jaded much? I would, I’d be like, what has happened to me? It’s not what’s happened to you, because we talked about this last night as we were sitting there, one of the times when you came and sat with us. Yeah, and that is the thing I think I said to you is, you know, I don’t like using the term famous, but I think I probably use the term famous because the term famous means something completely different. I was like. Fame means something completely different than it did when we were kids. Because if you had told us, as kids, that we would go to the Billboard Music Party or any parties, different things that we’ve been to, we would have been like, oh, so you’re telling me that, quote unquote, famous people are going to be at this thing, and we’re going to be, on some level, considered to be, one of them, it would have, in our minds, when we were kids, it was, you would if you went to a place like that it would be “Oh there’s somebody that everyone in the world or everyone in the country knows” Fame was not a common thing. But the internet, the internet has let so many stragglers in like us. Mhmm, mm. Just stumbling through the doors. And so fame is this thing that happens in pockets, so you go to a place like this, you go to a party, and each one of these people at this party is a celebrity to someone. Yeah, I mean the most obvious example in my mind is the K pop groups that were there. Right. It’s, it’s, they’re astronomically popular. And they’re like legitimately popular in terms of like the number of people who know that they are. If you know, you know. But, it’s just, so I guess what you’re saying, what I was saying last night is it doesn’t, it doesn’t mean, it doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t mean anything, it doesn’t mean what it used to mean at all, to be a part of that group. Cause you go to these things and you don’t know who anybody is and they don’t know who you are. Yeah. And so, there are, I guess there are still some like, certain events or whatever where there are household names or whatever, but it’s just, that’s why I was just sitting there thinking, Who are these people? Who am I? Why am I here? I could be at home with my wife, watching a television show right now. Yeah. That’s what I was thinking. Well, I was like, wow, I’m meeting Flavor Flav, and then I, it quickly dawned on me that I didn’t know what to talk to Flavor Flav about. Um, so, I just say, the clock, the clock. I just said, don’t mention the clock. You don’t mention the clock. You know, I heard somebody else talking about like, when I was a kid, blah, blah, blah, I didn’t want to give him that story. Um, so I was like, what’s up? I’m Link. Uh, and then he was like, hey, he said, he was friendly. And I said, I do stuff on YouTube. I just went ahead and just let him have it. Uh huh. And he was like, cool, man, I’ve seen some YouTube. I was like, oh, what do you watch on YouTube? I don’t really watch much on YouTube. I just like being happy for people. Oh, that’s a sweet thing to say. And I was like, Okay, Flavor Flav. At least he’s honest. That makes me happy. Yeah, that makes me happy. I like being happy for people. It’s a wise thing. That’s cool. And then I look down at his clock. What time was it? And, um, that made me more happy. Are his clocks always accurate? I don’t, I didn’t notice if it was running. I think it’s probably the only thing that I would have been thinking about if I had met Flavor Flav. Is the clock real? Is your clock running, sir? Is it on time? Or is he like Is it set to a specific time that means something to him? Right, is he set it to a time that I’m gonna act like is why you should have been with me talking to people! I don’t like it, man. But I’m sure everybody likes to talk about his clock. I mean, that’s, that’s the main thing. I didn’t want to talk about that. I didn’t want to talk about I also never know what to say. This is what I didn’t know I was sitting with Stevie, I was like, I think one of the reasons I don’t like this environment is I’m not good at making a first impression and I never know what to say until I’ve We went to another event the other day, and, um, uh, you had met Rich Roll, podcaster, ultra marathoner guy. And I’m a big fan of Rich Roll, right? And I’ve watched and I didn’t know who he was, but I liked him. But you got to know him at this event that I didn’t go to. And then he’s at this other event and so you go up to say, he told me like, Oh crap, that’s Rich Roll. And I go up and I just realized that I’m a big fan of this guy. I have nothing at all to say other than I’m a big fan. Then, so the initial interaction is like, I don’t have, I don’t bring anything to the table other than I’m just tall. It’s hard to, with no prep. But then he goes away. If you knew you were going to meet him and you thought about it. He goes away. And then I think of five things that I want to talk to Rich Roll about. Because when you give me a second, give me a few minutes, I can be prepared. And then I couldn’t find him. He already was like, You could have told him, it’s like, Rich, I don’t know what to talk to you about right now, but I’m gonna, I know it’ll come to me and I’m gonna find you. Maybe I need to have like a, a card that I hand to people that I’m interested to talk to. I may not seem interesting right now. But I will be in five minutes. In moments, I will, moments from now I will be very interesting. If you write enough on the business card. I just, I’m very bad at making first impressions. By the time they’re finished with the card, you’ll be ready. No, I, I need, it’s gotta be a pamphlet. You can step away. Maybe it’s a pamphlet. You need five minutes. I think I need seven minutes to become interesting. Sometimes I’m instantly interesting, and sometimes I’m just not on my A game, and I’m never interesting. Last night I was very duddish. But I was still friendly, and so I wrapped up the conversation with Flavor, I was like, You’re a legend, it’s great to meet you. But then instead of walking away I stood there. Oh. Because I really wanted to come up with something else to talk to him about. Oh! I’m glad I wasn’t there. And I kind of looked at the DJ. I kind of focused on what the DJ was doing and, you know, studying that. And he was kind of hem hawing around. And then I said, I said, so what else are you up to in town or something like that? I, I restruck up a conversation. Shouldn’t have done that. Wow. I’m glad I wasn’t there. And he was like, well, you know, man, I’m just, uh, doing my thing. Right. He, he was, he didn’t, he’s not a conversationalist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it didn’t go anywhere. And then I was like, all right, see ya. And I gave him another, I gave him two goodbyes. Oof. Flavor Flav is waiting for you to say interesting things so then he can hype you up. He’s not Yeah, boy! Right, he doesn’t want That’s right. He’s not, he’s not looking, he’s like, what do you got? What do you got that I can give support? thoughtful conversation. Which, as we’ve already established Yeah, man. He needed to just hype. You gotta say some Chuck D type shit. I knew that Tommy Richmond was there because I had heard that he was there. And members of Backstreet Boys, which I really You know, I’m like, okay, if I see AJ, I might give him a moment, but I’m not going to seek him out. But Tommy Richmond, the million dollar baby. I mean, some would argue the song of the summer, you know, billion views on even I had heard this billion. I had heard this on billion streams guys. Most mostly almost on Spotify alone. Yeah. Oh, you’re not even counting TikTok. No, I’m saying I’ve Spotify. I’ve heard it on TikTok. And then, um, I never saw him, and then we were leaving, and Stevie got in the Uber, and then as I walked around to get in the Uber, I was like, Oh, there he is on the street. I was like, What’s up, Tommy? And he knew who I was. He was like, No! His crony said, No way! He had a little posse. And then Uh, I was like, because they knew us, I was like, well, you gotta meet Rhett and Stevie. And then Stevie didn’t get out of the car because she was ready to go. You were not, you were, you had one leg in the car and you turned around and got out. I turned around and got out. And then that moment, the most amazing thing happened, and I saw it happen right in front of me, and I’m gonna let you tell it because it’s your story to tell, but I’m just going to tell you right now that it was the most amazing thing that happened last night at that party, not just to us. And I think this might be my Anybody! It might be my new thing. This is so super amazing, and if you’re trying to say it’s your thing, it’s going to be hard. It’s going to be hard to make it a thing. Because it was, the serendipity of it, I think is irreplicable. No, no. I thought about this, and I think I can recreate it. But this is what happened. After some scattered conversation, where I said, like, Hey, you’re from Virginia, we’re from North Carolina. You know, I was having a good time talking to him. Right, then you took a picture with him. Not yet. Oh before that. So I was getting back into the car because well, it was the end of the car. It was a goodbye. Well cause Stevie, was like Not a hello, I thought it happened first, but it happened last. It was the last thing because Stevie It was her Uber account, and she’s making this guy wait, she doesn’t want to get less than five stars because of us. So Stevie’s like sticking her head out of the car and like, okay guys! Ha ha! Momming it up! And I was like, alright, I’m coming mom! Boys, it’s time to go! And um, so, so I, and I, and it was cool to get to talk to the members of his posse because they were, uh, they, they knew who we were. They were glad to meet you. One guy I’ve been watching for like 10 years. It was cool. And, uh, so then as I’m leaving, I’m going down the line and shaking their hands. And let me just say, this is a whole nother thing that I really don’t, I don’t, There’s different ways to shake hands. Okay. I say, I, this is this, I know, and there’s the way that I shook hands with people growing up, right? Like just typically what I do, a business shake. And then there’s the, all the other forms of dabbing. Is it dapping? It’s not dabbing. That’s a different thing. Dap. Dap. Uh, there’s those things, and I do not, I’ve never really figured that out. I’m just gonna be, I don’t know exactly what’s happening. You’ve got to figure it out. I don’t know exactly what to do. I think when the hand starts high, and there’s a look on your face, it’s a little bit of a smile, then you know you’re coming in for the, You’re coming in for the elbow. I’m calling that the elbow, but that’s the thumb. Yeah, that’s important. The thumb. You look at the elbow to make it hit, though. Yeah. But actually, the way to do it is you do a regular shake. Yeah, yeah, and then you You do a regular shake, you turn it into that, and then you come in, and then you give him But then there’s something that happens at the end sometimes. Where it’s just h And sometimes A thumb wrestle? No. You’re not I don’t I I I I I What I’m just saying is, I’m never ready for it. You’re giving up on too much. Parties, handshakes. Just tell them the miracle that happened. But sometimes I don’t know what we’re doing. Do you know what I’m saying? Okay. I’ll just be honest with you. I was like Is that what was happening? I was like, these guys, four of them, I know that they’re hip hop guys. They’re probably used to a certain type of shake. But, all four of them are white. So, I was like, I don’t know what handshake we’re doing. And I, I, as I entered into the thing, I’ll just be honest with you, this is what I’m thinking. I’m a 47 year old man, shaking hands with some hip hop artist. It’s like, I’ll be honest with you, what I’m bringing, what I’m bringing Do I dictate the energy of this interaction? Right, I’m not trying to control the situation, but if I’m bringing a handshake, it’s a 47 year old white guy handshake. And it comes in like this. That’s what it does. The fish enters the aquarium like this. Right, four fingers forward. But is open to whatever happens. Okay? And I think that they sensed, uh, my whiteness in that moment, and they just shook me, shook the fish. Then I got to the last two guys, which was Tommy, and I think the guy that makes music with him. And they were right in front of me, so I had a perfect vantage point for this. And I, it was one of those things where Tommy brought his hand out first, and then the other guy brought his hand out. Second, but I was, had been going down the line, and so I was going for Tommy’s hand, and the last second, a new fish came into the aquarium, and it was the other guy’s hand. Right. And so I rerouted the fish. I’m Tommy’s, I’m Tommy’s hand, and you, Tommy’s hand’s out. Yeah, and so I’m going for But there’s another guy. New fish comes in, and so I come over to this one, I grab his hand You grab the back of his hand. No, no, his hand was normal. His hand was another right hand. We don’t have enough of those. I grabbed his right hand Yes. And then I just kept going and grabbed Tommy’s hand, too. Because I thought in that moment, I betcha I can get both of these hands in my hand. It was You had a Your hand was the net, and their hands were the fish. I shook both of their hands at the same time. I mean, you were trolling baby, and I’m talking about in a fishing sense. And then everyone noticed it because as soon as I grabbed both of ’em, I was like, there you go. And you kept it. I think I said I grabbed em tight. Yeah, you kept it Once I realized I had both of ’em. And it never happened before. Nope. I mean, had it ever happened anywhere, it was a crowd pleaser. It did not happen at a billboard. Music awards after party. You know, the main thing that they were talking about the rest of the night . So I do think I can do it again and but right after that I was so amazed. I exclaimed. Whoa! I want to do that! Oh, that was, did you, didn’t do it? Yeah, I didn’t even do it! I didn’t do it! Oh, I was already in the car. As soon as I shook two hands, I just got in the car with Stevie. I was like, my word, I George Costanza’d Maya. That is the moment right there. Costanza’d Maya. That is the moment to be gone. In the end of here, I’m like, hey, can I do that too? And boom, it was easier than I thought. Yeah, yeah. Well, the way to do it in the future is if I’m coming over here to shake this person’s hand and somebody, I’m gonna keep their hand and just go and grab the other hand. It’s gonna become my thing, maybe. It’s like, it’s like gathering, uh, leaves in a garden or something. Yeah. You keep adding to the number. I think I could hold three hands. You could triple deep it? I could probably But the problem Hold four of like, uh, you know, a smaller person. Okay. The problem, though, is how on earth do you do this without a prior discussion? Like, even having just seen you do it, in order for me to then do it, I had to say, I’d like to also do that. If I see two hands extended, I’m gonna, next time, uh, I’ll do it. Just scoop them up. I’ll do it. Just scoop them up. I think a good opportunity would be like You got a big hand. In a But so do I. Like a funeral line? Where the family is lined up? Yeah, especially if it’s And you’re greeting all of them? I think I can grab one of their hands and move it to the next person. Especially if it’s early on in the line, because, like, you’re gonna get distant cousins, distant relatives of the deceased. You want to experiment with the extended relatives. And you wanna, you just, and if you don’t know them, you get three or four of them at once and just like, sorry for all of y’all’s loss. And then move on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but when you get to the next to kin type thing. Next to kin, I’m shaking that one. Don’t think that’s a one-on-One thing I don’t think, you don’t wanna be doing any flounder stacking Oh, I’m dapping up the next to kin I mean, once I get next to the coffin, I go straight in for the dap. So is this, I’m calling this flounder stacking, but you, I mean, it’s a, it’s ’cause it’s a specific fish that’s, you know, has its eyes on one side, which is like a hand. Flounder stack? If there were, if there were, yeah, if there were eyes on a hand. I think we should maybe call it gigging. Nope. Cause flounder, you gig a flounder. Well, first of all, you agree that it’s a flounder because if eyes had hands, they would both, they would, both eyes would be on the, if hands had eyes, both eyes would be on the same side of the hand. Like a flounder. Not in Pan’s Labyrinth. Don’t argue with me. That’s two hands. That’s not, it was a hand on each eye. I know, but that’s a hand is a fish. We’ve already established that. Okay. One hand is a fish that has two eyes. They’re on one side of the hand, like a flounder. And then if you’re gonna stack multiple, you’re flounder stacking. That’s what I’m calling it. Well, you invented it so you can call it anything you want, but yeah, I haven’t named it yet. I gotta do it again. And I think you gotta do it without permission fish. I don’t. That’s what I’m saying. You can’t, this isn’t the kind of thing you have to ask for consent for. No. Once a hand out touch, somebody’s hand is okay. Yeah. Right. But the person in the middle is having an interesting experience. I think consent starts at the elbow. I mean, I, I’m just, I don’t, I don’t know for sure. And I’m not the one that determines it. It probably is from person to person. But I’m just saying that if you have to draw, if you have to draw bodily consent somewhere, it’s probably the elbow. Well, I think you’re, if you reduce it to below the wrist, I think you’ve got quite a case from a basketball perspective. Ball is part of the hand. Hand is part of the ball. Right. Hand is part of the ball. So, I don’t think you need consent for that part. If it’s already extended. To stack them. Right. Name it what you want, but we’re having, the working title is Flounder Stacking. And, uh, try it. Call us and let us know. And for it to count, you can’t explain it ahead of time. Yeah, you have to seize the opportunity. And if you, and you, you gotta, and you, so you almost want to orchestrate people to be shoulder to shoulder for a hello or a goodbye. 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Um, And so as a straight male to two other straight males who have done this before, twice, I was wondering if you guys have any advice for me going into it or maybe some like jokes or icebreakers, you know, to like clear the air of any awkwardness, uh, uh, so yeah, please let me know and, uh, thanks. Yeah, we have done this twice. One time it was drawing, other time it was sculpting. Yep, and it was, um. And we’ve each done a male and a female. Yep, and, uh. I made it weird. But, let’s just say that was completely for comedic purposes. But you were doing it on an entertainment show. Yeah, if I was just doing it in an art class, I wouldn’t have been saying all that stuff. I’d have just been thinking it. Knockers! I’ll say that doing this As a college student, uh, for me this, uh, you know, I wasn’t nearly as mature then as I am now. Um, this would have been Right. You enjoyed parties occasionally and This would have been a little different for me at the time. Um, I don’t know how well I would have composed myself. But I think when you talk about these icebreakers, these jokes Don’t make jokes. I think what you have to figure out is how many times this model has done this. Because Icebreakers are only necessary if this is their first time doing it, or like among their first times doing it. But if this is someone who is a seasoned nude model, and I don’t mean they literally have like a barbeque rub on them. That would be nice. Which would be something to sketch. Yeah, get a little texture on it. Can oil them up and then put some barbeque rub on them and then paint them? And then technically, they’re clothed. Yeah. I mean, it’s like a It’s like body paint, but it’s rub. Yeah. This is another good idea for a different occasion. But if they’re a seasoned nude model, then this is like Sometimes if you go to the proctologist and, you know I have. I have. And you know that you’re gonna get, you know that at some point during this encounter that you’re gonna have this person’s digits in your ass. Yeah, I love how we both wanted to say digit. When you shake that hand. Like, why did I know you were gonna say digit? When the doctor walks in and you shake his hand, you are shaking the hand, most likely the hand that will be in your ass in moments. And everybody knows this. But he’s done it so often. I be the other hand. It depends on, there is a school, I think, west of the Mississippi, it’s usually the left hand. Okay. Um, but, what you got to understand is that all of your jokes About breaking the ice. It’s just for you, right? It’s just for you, and so just keep it to yourself. It’s just water for them. What you want to do with a proctologist, or a well seasoned nude model, is you want to act like, I do this every day. I get digited every day. And it’s like, basically like Is that what you’re saying? Yeah, well you want, you want the proctologist to think, I stick my, I have fingers in my ass all the time. You don’t have to say that literally. Yeah, but figuratively. Just, just, just a second ago I had a finger in my ass. Not a big deal. You want to communicate that energy, that you’ve had fingers in the ass, so regularly that you, in fact, you have to be told that there’s a finger in your ass because you don’t even know it anymore. You’re so comfortable with it. And if you give off that kind of energy, then you bring the temperature down. And there’s products for that. You can probably get one of this finger shaped. Right. So I think you’re trying to do the same thing with this nude model. Like, you want the energy to be that, Just before I walked in here, I was looking at a naked lady. Right. In person. Maybe not, maybe on your phone. No, no, no, I think it, it has to be. I was looking at porn all morning before, to prepare for this. No, no, no, that’s tasteless. No, no, I don’t know, you were looking at pictures, not video, and not sexual, just poses. Nude art. That’s not porn. Yeah, yeah, I’ve been looking at nude art all morning. You can do that to prime your pump. Well, wrong terminology. To just get ready. But, I mean, I don’t think you have to talk to them at all. You’re in a class, dude. It’s not like us. It wasn’t just like two goofballs talking to a naked chick and a naked man with his bits just dangled over the edge of a stool. Yeah, yeah. You know? I mean, talk about something seared into my memory. His bits dangled over the edge of a stool. It’s not something that I just want to be able to recall as easily as I do. Your guy was on a stool. My guy, the first time, he was standing. So his bits were just sort of dangling in the air. A little different. It didn’t look like someone peering over a cliff. Like in your scenario. Like a snake deciding if it was gonna crawl off the side of a cliff. . Yeah. . Oh, it’s a long base down. I’m, I’m gonna crawl over these two boulders and go off of this cliff , the thing that you don’t want to do. That’s how I drew it too. The thing that you don’t wanna do, you look back at it. Do when you’re looking, when you’re looking at a new model, don’t look at the bits. Well, first, don’t make any noises. Don’t go like, mm, no. . Like you don’t wanna, or uh, yeah, you don’t wanna, and you might do this involuntarily. So be ready to cover it up with a card. This is why you might want to practice looking at naked ladies and not making sounds just cause you, that’s the last thing you want to do. Make any sort of grunting. You just need exposure therapy. The more they expose themselves to you, the more that you’ll get used to it. And every week they’re going to be, you know, it’s going to be old hat. You, your problem is going to become that you’re, you’re just. Too chill with nudity, you know, that’s what you need to be concerned about is losing any arousal of nudity They switch out the models pretty often. I uh was a figure model in college Oh, wow, jenna was a figure model in these classes. Uh, yeah, you’re naked. I was naked How many classes did you do this for? Were we supposed to already know this? Um, I don’t know if you already know this. We did it twice and you didn’t say? I told the producers. No, I wouldn’t have done that. I don’t want, not, not for you all. Yeah, I think that. Well, yeah, I mean, but you’re, it’s old hat for you. It is an old hat for me. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Well, okay. How did this come about? And then how many times did you do it? Um, I, uh, Saw that they, I saw in the art building that they were in need of nude models and I saw the rate and was like What’s, oh, oh I was like, okay You make more than, uh, giving plasma? Um 40 bucks an hour? No, I didn’t make more than giving plasma, but I, I don’t, I didn’t qualify for giving plasma, my, my, um, veins were too small Okay So, uh, it was 25 an hour That’s good for a nude 25 an hour back in 2008, so, that’s, that was pretty good Okay, yeah, that was pretty good pretty good. Um, how many times did you do this? I don’t know. I have for a couple semesters. Um, not it wasn’t every week because they switch out the models often. It was on availability. So, um, did you run into any awkward situations where I mean, listen, college dudes, we’ve all, we’ve been them and we’ve met many, um, where they had this interaction with you. And then Later . Yeah. They saw you and tried to talk to you. Um, I had an awkward experience, but it was really funny. Um, what serious? So I was, I was at like a, a, a theater kids party, um, because I was a theater major and, um, I was like in meeting a bunch of new people there and everything and nude people new, oh, okay. New people. I was meeting new people because I just said yes to becoming a theater major and I was trying to. Get to know everyone. Um, so I was at the party, and I was talking to, um, one of the other theater majors, and, uh, we were, he, uh, we were trying to figure out where we probably knew each other. So we were like, I was like, oh, he’s like, no, I don’t think, but we went through like classes we had, and then I like looked at him, and I was like, are you? In intro to figure drawing and the realization in his eyes, the moment I, I, I knew he figured it out was priceless. And I just, he hadn’t been looking at you. And I just go, yeah, I’m in your portfolio. Hi. And then what? His face got red at that point. He got a little flustered, but then it was fine. Cause I was like, listen, I signed up for those classes. So yeah, anyone at the university of Tennessee from 2009 to May. 2008 to 2009 2010. I might be in your portfolio if you took those classes. 1 888 No, I mean we need an email address for that Don’t mail us your portfolio The teachers didn’t uh, the students didn’t really talk to us It was the it was the it was the professor or the like grad assistant if there was a break, what? The first time you did it, do you remember? The first time I did it was really scary and nerve wracking. I, like, was sweating. Uh huh. You come out in a robe. I wanted to try something new and do something scary, and I was like, you know what, I’m not ashamed. Right. So, but yeah, it was scary. Did you, I mean, was it a stadium seating? It was, uh, in, it was, uh, uh, in the round. There, I, I was on a podium and everyone was circled. Whoa, every, every angle. Every, every angle. Were you on a Lazy Susan? Was somebody slowly spinning you? No, but, um No, no, because you wanted to stay the same for each person. So some people Well, it depended on the, um, the, like, what we were doing that day. So, like, uh, to warm up Me and the artists they would do like 50 30 seconds. I certainly hope it’s warm if I ever do it Yeah, like 30 second poses where you move and then they just focus on quick Brushed strokes or or okay, and then you get into longer form and then they might shift you around a bit But it just depended. Um, it feels cold in there. They’d have a heater for me and let me wear socks Some and Okay, and so at first you were sweating and then I was really nervous at first because it was scary Is that what happened naked in front of a large group of but then I had to become freeing at some point, right? Yeah, it became freeing at some point and then it became just totally totally normal but yeah there’d be breaks and I put my robe back on and I’d get to walk around and see what People had drawn which is really talk to the students at that. Well, just like we did Occasionally. Yeah, I I remember it being Knockers the very beginning. It was like this is what I would say. This is uh, You know, this is a new experience for me, but then I was really surprised at how quickly it seemed very normal I was just painting or sculpting or whatever we did. We were actually trying to art and so I think it becomes like It goes from being potentially sexualized to very much just like this is a human body. Yeah. Happens really quickly. Mm hmm. So, but, I, I, you know, uh, the woman who was there the first time, who you painted, she came to something. She showed up at a, uh Was it the Wonderhole premiere or something? It was something. Oh, yeah. And, uh She’s clothed. It was one of those, but it is one of those things that like She’s a friend of a crew member. And so, they introduced her and was like, You know her. And it’s like, she dawns on you like this guy, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh yes, I’ve seen you naked. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I said something. You’re in my portfolio. I said something like, good to see you again. And there’s obviously, like, in my voice was I don’t mean to be weird, but My portfolio consists of only you, naked, and that’s it. But she knew, like, she knew, she had been there for us doing it, being idiots. So, uh, it actually wasn’t that awkward. I think it’s good to put yourself out there. Or, you know, whether you’re drawing or you’re modeling. I think it’s, uh, you know, just keep it appropriate. Yeah, but I think, you know, I think we gave some good advice. Don’t make grunting noises. We don’t need to review the advice. Yes, new pictures before you show up. I approve of your advice, yeah. Be ready, be ready. Let’s hear another. Hey Rhett and Link, this is Nelly. So I have a quick question for both of you guys. Um, You guys have both had children, um, My wife is currently pregnant. I’m really, really stressed about what happens in the delivery room. So, I was just wondering, what is my role in the delivery room? What are some do’s and don’ts of the actual day where, you know, we’re in the hospital and she’s in labor? And, um, do I get a push present? I know that’s something that has recently come about in, uh, social media and all that. Do I get a push present and what should it be? Alrighty. Thank you guys, and have a wonderful day. Congratulations, first of all. Push present. Um, The internet, man. What? What? What? We didn’t, we didn’t have this kind of stuff. Okay, so a push present I just found out right before recording this is a present that you give the mom after And, I didn’t know this was a thing. But it certainly seems like an opportunity arises from this. I, I just, it’s so hard for me to not have a negative reaction. Okay, so they’ve invented another thing that we’re, we’re, it’s like a holiday. It’s, it’s just. To, to, to get a gift, I mean there’s nothing wrong with giving gifts and showing love, but like, I don’t know, it’s just something rubs me the wrong way when it’s like, It’s just, hey listen, that’s what we do man, we’re, we’re humans, we find ways to remix the human experience. Well you’re supposed to give a gift present, you’re, well you’re supposed to do that, and then you’re all worried about that. No, no, no, don’t see it as an obligation, see it as an opportunity. For what? Because this is him supposed to be giving her a present that’s not the child, by the way. Listen. That doesn’t count. I think that this is potentially great because, as you, as you know. Can I just get, before you talk about how great it is, let me get all of my negativity out. Okay. So we don’t have to come back to it. Okay. I just feel like this is something that social media and celebrities came together and created. Of course. You know? It’s a, it’s a cultural thing. Oh, did you see, did you see what Mariah Carey got on Entertainment Tonight? Last night they said that Nick Cannon gave her A big diamond necklace as a push present. Have you heard of this concept? No, cause it didn’t exist before. Somebody just got a present and then somebody Extra, called it a push present, and then somebody on Instagram put a hashtag in front of it, and now we’re all obligated. We’re not obligated. And there’s expectations, and it’s not about the, it’s not about parenthood, or the beauty of delivery, or any of that stuff. It’s about, okay, are you gonna be upset with me? I don’t think that’s how you should be interpreting it. Is it a construct? Of course, but everything is a construct, man. Some things don’t need to be constructed. It’s like, you know, so you have to, there’s this pressure to like give an extravagant gift. And I’m also, I don’t like that. It’s like, who says it has to be extravagant? You know, all the money, because that’s what the celebrities do. And that’s where it started. So then everybody’s like. Well, now I have to, I’ve got to pony up, like, do you, do you understand the expense associated with child birth, you know? And then what you’ve signed up for, in terms of expenses for the rest of their life? I mean, the last thing you want is to add on some extravagant piece of jewelry that you gotta, that you gotta start paying for. Oh, so it’s jewelry now? I think it’s, I mean, when I, when I, when I just Googled push present, at the very top, Now, all these shops, it’s like, it’s, it’s just lockets and keychains and dumb shit to hang around your neck to help you remember a special moment. Hey, listen. I know I’m, I know I’m being a bad boy right now. Okay, we’ve heard you, we’ve heard you. But I’m done. We got I’m done and you can change my mind. So, Link, without a doubt, A push present is a construct that exists in the context of a capitalistic system that is designed to squeeze all the resources out of the proletariat. Okay? Okay. Go on. We know this, and we gladly participate in it because we don’t have an alternative. Okay? Well, you’re deciding not to go to parties, so you can’t speak out of both sides of your mouth. I’m not going to parties, but I am pro push press. But might I add, might I add, that A man being in a monogamous relationship with a woman, and being present for the birth, is also a social construct. There are times in the past Yeah, screw that! No, I’m just saying Just joking. I’m just saying, it’s a social construct. That you gladly, you don’t question that. Yeah, I’m not, I’m not against social constructs. There are I’m against You actually, you feeling obligated to be there. It could be like, Oh, she goes off and she’s with the other women and they just come back with a baby. You don’t even know which one made it. That’s good, but buying something. Yeah, okay. But, I just, I think you just gotta reinterpret this thing because you gotta see this. Not an obligation, but an opportunity. I was there for both of the births of my kids They were very different. The first one was long laborious literally and figuratively But Jesse was able to have all the drugs Including an epidural that made it somewhat tolerable and of course the second time with Shepherd he came so quickly that she was not able to get any of those things and she Screamed. Repeatedly. I think I described it as if she was about to be hit by a car. You know, like the kind of scream that you could imagine happens right before an accident. And it just kept happening, and I felt somewhat helpless. You know what would help? A locket. Here, honey. Let me put this locket right in that choir in excruciating pain. And do something miraculous that I have very little to do with. Not only do Uh, you had a little bit to do with it at one particular moment. Just a little, just a little. Not only is a push present, not only is giving. The wonderful mother who is bringing a life into this world, a gift in the midst of this, maybe one way to take the edge off. I’m not thinking of push present. I’m thinking push presents. I’m thinking we turned this into a Hanukkah situation. Okay. I’m saying with each contraction, you get to the hospital, you get something. Okay. You settle into the bed. I push out another push present. Baby advent calendar. And what I want to do is I want to go full capitalist on this. And I want to have A product that is a little, like one foot tall, um, mom doll that has a giant belly. And every time she does something, I push one of the push presents out of the doll. So the doll is giving birth to presents. I gotta, I push on the belly, and I pop one out, whatever, it’s a surprise which one’s gonna come out. It’s like a pinata with a slit in it that I’m pushing presents out of. And I basically like, Oh, it’s a locket, but I broke it when I pushed it out. It doesn’t have to be a locket. Apparently it needs to be a locket. That feels sexist to begin with. I’m just saying. That you’re thinking that the only thing you can give a pregnant woman is a lockets. Lockets, amulets, and I think it might need to be candy of some kind. Can you eat while in labor? I don’t know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I think it’s ice chips or something is what they give you. I’m just saying, you can put your, your, you know, the mother of your child, you can put in there the things that she wants, and you can push them out throughout the process. You’re changing my mind. This is great. Because I felt helpless. I didn’t know what to do. Yeah, she’s over here. Every time she screamed But she’s, I screamed, she’s enduring, I wasn’t helping, tremendous pain in a beautiful scenario of the miracle of life coming forth, and you’re over in the corner playing with a doll. I’m trying to squeeze, I’m squeezing presents out of the doll’s vagina, and giving them to my wife, nothing’s coming out of this doll, can I get a nurse, can I get a nurse to help me deliver these push presents, doctor, push present patty. Now with up to 16 push presents inside. Up to. Can I offer a suggestion? Yeah, yeah. Because I, I, I agree with you, Link. I think a present for everything is a little silly. But, um, after Uh, your partner gives birth, I, like, if, if I were to give birth, which I have no intention of, but if I were, right afterwards, I’ma want those soft cheeses I haven’t been able to eat, I’ma want the sh I’ma want those deli meats I haven’t been able to eat, I’ma want sushi. That I haven’t been able to eat. Those will be, that would be push presents that I will want. Give me the food that I haven’t been able to eat for nine months. That’s not a push present. Would you want that to come out of a doll? That is a present to me. Yes it is. But you will get that. to me. You will get that. And you deserve that. I want it immediately after the birth. Oh Jesus. Let’s go. And you know what? Christy got that. Jesse got that. I mean. You know, I would consider that a push present. Well, that’s because it exists now. Like back when we gave it, it didn’t exist. When you say soft cheese, do you mean like cheese whiz? Because I could get that to come out of, uh, a doll , like some Bri like, like blue cheese, Bri, this absolutely un pasteurized dairy, not cheese, get that’s totally whatever she wants. She needs to be rewarded and semi worshiped for what she has accomplished. Don’t get me wrong, but Well, he didn’t just ask about push presents, though. He’s also like, any tips for being being ready, doing the right thing in the moment, you know. We had very different experiences with that because They just I mean, Christy took forever, forever, forever, forever, and then they just wheeled her into a place and cut her open like a ripe watermelon. Uh, and I was a little afraid to watch that. But, um, the doctor made me. But you did, you did. I was hiding behind the curtain. I’m actually really surprised you made it through that. If a c section is being done on your partner, they’ll put up a, like a, a, a surgical barrier, like a curtain. So you don’t have to watch. So it’s like, from the collarbones up, and you’re on that side, you’re with the head of the, of the mother. So she doesn’t have to watch, really, I think. Herself get cut open. Probably. But, it, yeah, because it was only, it was only like a foot and a half above her, but then, uh, the doctor, He told me to stand up and watch this miracle happen. Oh, he sensed weakness. And I was like, you want me to stand up at this moment? Yeah, he, he, he smelled, he smelled the weakness and discomfort. The queasy. With Shepard, it wasn’t even our doctor. I don’t even know who it was. Right. It’s just somebody. It could have been an administrator. at the hospital. It was just somebody who was willing to do it. Yeah, just grab an ankle, pop him right out. Just keep your cool. This is not about you. Yeah, don’t complain about anything in your life or with your experience during this. Don’t be like, it’s cold in here. Don’t say anything about, don’t complain about anything. It’s not about you in that moment. Ask her if, if he thinks it’s cold, maybe be like, how’s the temperature for you? Yeah, that’s good. Take it to her. Would you like to yell at me to get some of your frustration out? Yeah. Even things like that. Like, expect yelling if it’s directed towards you. Just absorb it. Well, Push Present Patty comes in a material that can be, is like a squishy thing. So you can also stress ball? It’s a stress ball. The head of Push Present Patty can be, Gets bigger. Can be completely enveloped in your fist. So as you’re pushing out, you’re also stress balling. Well, if you push the head, nothing comes out. No, but if you squeeze the body, the head gets bigger, like in one of those stress balls. Yep. This is a product. You’ve really done it. Yeah. You’ve created a product Now with soft cheeses. to then deliver products. Soft cheeses, deli meats. Well, have you, you know, I What are you gonna get me for my push present? And I, I certainly hope it comes out a push present Patty. I’m gonna send you the TikTok. Okay. You know, that type of thing. I think we solved that one. Let’s, let’s, let’s take one more. Hey, guys. Um, I have a question for Rhett. Uh, Link, you’re perfect and I love you, so you can do no wrong. Rhett, um, I know that you know that you don’t say the word wolf correctly, but I, Also realize that you have a hard time saying dolphin and golf, so I know that it’s the O L F that you have an issue with, and I just wanted to know, uh, why, why you, why, why you, how, how come? Um, that’s it. My name is Katerina, by the way. Um, I know you guys usually forget when people say it in the beginning. Thank you, Katerina. Katerina. I do appreciate you saying the name at the end. Um, could you say the, the, the, the G word? Real quick. Um, golf? Now say the W word. Wolf. Okay. Those don’t rhyme, right? Mm mm. Mm mm. I know. Golf. Wolf. Wolf. Just wanna make sure I’m not going crazy. But there is an L in both. So now you say it. Well, there’s an O L F. Now you say them. Golf. Alright, there’s almost no L there. Say the W word. Woof. No L at all. Where the L is it? Alright, what about, uh, like, somebody who studies noses. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let’s not, don’t move so fast. I’m gonna come back to it. No, no, let’s stick on one word. I’m gonna say a word, I want you to say it back, and I want us to go back and forth. Cause I’m trying to hear the difference, okay? Okay. Goth. Golf. Gof. Golf. You’re saying it like me. Golf, all, there’s a, there’s a L The first time you said it, there was more of an L. Oh, golf, gof, golf, gof. Now, if I, if it was GOFF, golf, if it was GOFF, I would say golf. Goff Goff. Growing up GOFF would’ve been golf. G A W F. Golf. Well, yeah. And I think that I still say G O F F and G O L F the same way that I would have said it growing up. So, you’re saying with a Southern accent. With a W. With a southern accent. I pronounce gawf, well, in my brain, I’m hearing G A W F, golf. Golf. And then I’m doing my less accented version, gawf. Golf. And I’m, I’m saying G O L F, which is golf. Say it again? Golf. Golf. Golf. Golf. There’s a, there’s a little touch of old. Oh, I’m, first of all. Golf. Golf. Just so you know, I know I say it wrong. I’m not, I’m not defending myself. I’m not trying to justify. I’m just trying to explain what because she did say why I mean, it’s not really a fair question as much as you love me, it’s not a fair question. Hey, you don’t say things, right? Why well But also Jesse makes fun of me because she says I can’t say UL words like vulnerable, vulnerable. I say vulnerable. Vulnerable? Vulnerable. That’s how, that’s what I say. It’s not vulnerable. Vulnerable. Vulnerable. Vulnerable. Vulnerable. Vulnerable. Goth. Goth. Alright, let’s hit the W word. This is totally different. I’m not thinking at all. And you’re gonna have to tell us why. Woof. Wolf. Wolf. Wolf. Wolf. Wolf. Those sound so similar to me. But, They’re different because you don’t have an L. There’s a little bit of an L. Wolf. There it is, too much. It just feels unnecessary. Too much. You tried too hard. Well your whole head is, It’s like you’re sending your head over a hill. Wolf, uh wolf, you shouldn’t have to move your whole head in order to say. And if I’m just, if I’m just not thinking and I’m not crying. Wolf wolf pack. Wolf wolf pack wolf pack. Wolfpack. Wolfpack. Wolfpack. Wolfpack. Wolfpack. Wolfpack. There’s an L there. Wolfpack. But that’s not what you say. Wolf. You say woof. Now why do you do it, Rhett? Um, I, I mean, I think it’s, I think it’s because, The people need to know. Um, I mean, I also couldn’t say warm for a really long time. I said worm until I was like 10. I was like, make my bath worm, mom. Are you serious? Yeah, it’s just I had a speech impediment. Oh. That was isolated to very specific words. Okay. Um. Wolf. Wolf. Wolf. Or. Dolphin. Dolphin. Dolphin. It’s doll and fin. Dolphin. But if I’m not thinking I’d say. Ol. Ol. Dolphin. Dolphin. Here’s the thing. Dolphin. I think it. Dophin. I think I always say dophin if, which has no L’s. Say the L sound. L. No, lul, lul, ul, ul, ul, it’s, it’s back here, and I think anatomically, there’s something that’s preventing an ul sound, and it’s just, cause you don’t, to put the tongue on the top of the roof of the mouth gives the luh, ul, ul, and I don’t, wolf, wolf, see, my tongue touches in the back, and then in the front, can you make your tongue, why do you need to do both of those? Can you make your tongue touch the back of your throat? The back of your tongue, touch the back of your throat. Do that. I’m doing it right now. Well, you could look happier about it. And now make I’m doing it in front. So you and then make a sound. ULL. That’s it. That’s it. Good. It just feels unnatural. Who needs it? Who needs it? And then put the tip of the tongue. You know what I’m saying when I say wolf? Woof. I say duffin. Duffin. You know I’m talking about a dolphin. I mean people make fun of me when I say water. Is it water? No, white. Because you pronounce the H which is literally silent. But I see it. White. White. And Christy can’t say R O Y. Roy? She can’t say that. WOY is what she says, and the more she tries, the worse she goes. Those are not the only words that I can’t say. By the way, there’s a lot of, um, certain combinations of syllables and sounds become, uh. Like, I can’t, like, my brain will not make sense of them. Like, lots of Rs and Ls in vowels together, it’s just sort of like, roll roll roll roll roll. I’m like, roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll. Yeah, I don’t have that. I have to really concentrate. You have a small mouth, dude. I really have to concentrate. Let’s just say it. Like, I’m tone deaf. I also am tone deaf. And can’t really hear, but I sing. How’s that even possible? Well, because I concentrate really hard. I’m not completely tone deaf, but I’m just saying that like, We would know it. No, do you remember what we sounded like when we would sing in high school? Well, yes, but, I’m just saying there are some kids who can just sing, and it’s like, it comes second nature to them that, Oh, I can, I can hear something and I can sing. And I’m just saying that, I feel like, You don’t want to say that your mouth is small. These, well, I don’t, I mean, there’s plenty of small mouthed people who can say these words. I just think that that’s scientifically incorrect. And I’m talking, I’m not talking about the whole, I’m talking about the whole cavity. Like if I really look back in the back, ontologically I don’t think it’s I think it’s a, I think it’s a brain thing. Or, that’s not the word. I think it’s a brain thing. Ontolaryngologically. I think it’s a brain thing. I don’t think that it’s a, it’s an anatomical thing. Hey, if you want it to be a brain problem instead of a mouth problem, that seems worse to me. Because then all children couldn’t say dolphin. Which, do you, do you notice that children can’t say dolphin because their mouths are small? Yeah. No. Maybe. That’s not true. Maybe babies. I don’t listen to kids talk about dolphins. I don’t have a baby’s mouth. Last thing I want is to hear a kid talk about a dolphin. I don’t have a baby’s mouth. If I had a baby’s mouth, then you would have an argument. I don’t have a baby’s mouth. I have a small man’s mouth. You have a middle school mouth. I’m a big man with a small mouth. You got a middle school mouth. I know many middle, middle schoolers who could say dolphin, golf, and wolf without trying. Like I just tried, very hard. All right. I think it’s a brain thing. I think that if they had the ability to map my brain, and you saw when I said dolphin. Without thinking about it, there’s a neuron, there’s a neural network. The L neuron. That is, and also neuron is hard for me to say. Like, again, there’s an R in there now. Now you’re in your head about it. Boy, you really messed him up. And in some people’s brains it would go through the L section. Mm-Hmm. . And then in my brain, it’s optional to go through the L section. It’s like I’m in a library and I go right past that part What about the guy in Rocky four who played the Russian? Dolph. Lundgren. Don’t try so hard. Dolph Lundgren. Doff See, I’m saying D O F F. Dolph. Dolph. I almost hear it wrong. Dolph. Dolph. Alright, we’ve settled it. I’m not sure we have. Oh my gosh. I mean, you know, as much as I sit down with my dad to like help him pronounce things, I’ve had a bit too much of it. You’re doing good. Yep. I actually haven’t had too much of it. I seriously, I can’t get enough of getting my dad to try to say things. That’s a little different. That is different. A little different. But it feels a little similar. Um. If I would have written it down. Hopefully that’s a satisfying answer for you, Katrina. Katarina. Katarina. See, I remembered almost. I could say Katarina. Well. I have a recommendation for us. Yeah, we’ve been, we’ve been skipping out on those. Yep. But I don’t, I, I want to. Knockers. I want to recommend, uh. The movie, it’s a 2023 movie, Dream Scenario. What is that? It’s a movie with Nick Cage. I was, you know, Nick Cage is Nick Cage, right? So, he’s just a interesting person. And I saw him talking about, I have no trouble saying the word talk. Talk. Talk. Talk? Talking? Talking. You’ve messed him up. Um, I saw him talking about, uh, he said there’s only four scripts that I’ve ever been given. That, when I read them, I was like, I have to make this movie. There’s three other movies that I can’t remember, and Dream Scenario. Okay. And the premise of the movie is He’s a college professor who begins showing up in multiple people’s dreams. Hmm. And, uh, it’s a, it’s funny. It’s intriguing. In sort of a, you know, um, Absurdist, surrealist way that I really like. So, I recommend it. Start to finish. If you’re in. It’s a good premise, but. When it was all over. Uh, I’m not gonna say anything about that. Okay. Alright. I respect that. I liked it. And I liked the way it ended. Okay. Oh, you just said something. Alright. Okay. Dream Scenario. Is that what it’s called? It’s just, you know, there’s so many movies that are just not interesting. And there’s some movies that are like an original premise that Oh, there you go. I’m always down for an original premise. We had some fun today. I mean, just and I felt I didn’t feel great at the beginning. You know what? I feel better. Thank you for that. Yeah, so if you’re, uh, I feel like I’ve earned a push present. Whether or not you’re, the rest of your day involves a round of golf. Uh, hanging out with a wolf pack or swimming with dolphins. Uh huh. We hope you enjoy all of those things. Alright, and we’ll talk at you next week. Hey Rhett and Link. My name’s Emily from Charlotte, North Carolina. Um, I’m just listening to the part of the podcast where you describe North Carolina. Um, as a native North Carolinian, I’d like to confirm everything that you’ve said, but especially the college basketball religion portion. Um, I actually grew up going to church, and I have vivid memories of watching college basketball games on one of those roll out TVs as a child. So, thanks for everything you do. Love you guys.