[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m Rhett and I’m link joining us today at the round table of dim lighting is youtuber Viner rapper vlogger the talented and tenacious destorm power destorm he’s a 2011 American Music Awards winner with over 1.6 million subscribers on YouTube and he is the number 21 topped ranked Viner with 4.6 million followers I mean we’re happy to call DeStorm a friend of ours we’ve collaborated on multiple occasions we discussed the first time we met which I have forgotten but he brings up in our conversation and all the time ago I was glad I was glad that he brought that up because I certainly remembered that meeting once once he once he made you remember it you remembered it yes his YouTube fame really exploded when he started performing rap songs based off of challenges from his fans and a schedule that he also shares with us his catchphrase was another challenge it was a challenge from his fans and then he would just have less than a week to turn it into a catchy rap song just like this one involving solving a Rubik’s Cube you got a problem yo I’ll solve it watch me take this color cube and help you resolve it wanna solve your rubik’s cube first you gotta pray I’m only kidding let me show you the way you get the top which is relatively easy it all starts out with a simple TC i lying it’s Eve with the colors on the side what’s the fine DeStorm also writes and performs original songs for his YouTube channel his most recent one of those is victory dance [Music] [Music] in your mind I got meals upon mine but as of late day storms been getting amazing traction on vine racking up millions of loops six seconds at a time actually up to six and a half seconds I learned that today I got to say I’m a little ignorant about that with vines like robbery gone wrong we’re a day storm and fellow Viner very popular rider king batch approached a man to rob him only realize that when he turns around he’s a priest what did you say much so the more that you watch this thing it kind of sucked you in the funnier it gets I mean what you can’t do it justice just by hearing the audio and there’s just a fascinating science to the world of vining that DeStorm has not only experienced but helped dictate what is most successful on vine I just I love the fact that this is that he’s able to talk about it in such a detail way and that we could find vine to define it and define it by his action so I mean it was really cool to talk about that we talked to him about a lot of things his bizarre kneecap injury a detailed account of his amazing backstory I mean we’re talking the type of stuff that should be in a movie tomorrow and I don’t you know if DeStorm wants to get into more acting I guess he could play himself I’m hard rocker clam that would also be literate for another reason you could play him that would be weird let’s not get into caste Alisa my point is that his story is it should be in a movie yes but it’s here on an air biscuit and you’re gonna 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just so I can just get like really nice and sexy real quick okay I want to hear can you tell us the kneecap injury story the kneecap injury I was with Amir Johnson from the Toronto Raptors because this was oh really this is because this was two years this is when we shot Christmas sweats yeah I was messed up yeah it had happened you were just in recovery then and so it’s been over two years one two over three years ago no is yet so it must have been much Merry Christmas face oh it’s Christmas face but I’ve been obsessed with this story so I want to hear it in its entirety i what happened I had a show that I was actually filming for YouTube called make me hot where I actually write a song for an athlete and in return they have to make me hide me a respectable sport so episode one was what’s the girl who won crazy shrugs who won the Olympics member she flipped and landed on one leg and got it for the ROI yeah the girls so she was episode 1 she was showing me some stuff on the balance beam and in return I had to make her a hot song we did the song episode 1 was great episode 2 was Amir Johnson from the Toronto Raptors okay and my job was to make him a hot song in the studio and in return we opposed to do a little one-on-one basketball we did the one-on-one basketball then we decided we want to have a dunk contest so we’re up there with just dunking basketballs we just going crazy with it no no how tall you I’m six one almost six six six one six and a half two six one and you can dunk a basketball I mean I’m six foot and I couldn’t I can’t touch the net Oh I could grab the room from the free-throw line I’m black oh go back there okay let’s start with that you’re black okay dunk contest mm-hmm um so this wasn’t part of the actual show we were just showing off and then we were outside and I slipped on some gravel and a hyper-extended my me and I guess all those years because I was a professional triple jumper in my time also everyone who knows i was Olympic Development triple jumper so I had a lot of balance so I went up on that right leg and when I went up on that right leg you just heard this loud ass pop was like and that was my knee in midair it’s on you two I’m pretty sure you saw the video cuz we were shooting it for there for the YouTube video I know I haven’t seen it I’ll go watch the video stop talking no but I went down BAM landed on my back and I was kind of in shock so I was looking for my kneecap so I’m on the ground where the hell is my kneecap could you what do you mean you looked and the kneecap was not there it wasn’t there therefore you started looking on the ground yes that’s what you’re supposed to do because it wasn’t a knee when a part of your body is not amazing explain so I would change falls out of your pocket when wait I must be on the ground exactly when something falls apart from you about you like you were looking for a lost contact you’re like crawling around if you were in the military that makes me something if you’re in the military and a part of your body gets shot off in war you’re gonna look for your arm or your leg no yes okay so I was looking for my kneecap it wasn’t where it was supposed to be I grew up with kneecaps for 32 years and I wanted to know where my kneecap was and it wasn’t and it wasn’t there and then what so I’m looking at a mere Johnson stands over me and he’s like there’s your kneecap it was in my thigh okay so wearing the thigh well my patella tendon which is one of the biggest tendons in your body popped this tendon holds your kneecap onto your tibia bone which is the bottom you know like bone in front of your calf muscle so for the people at home and it wasn’t there so it rolled up like a fruit roll-up like my quad my rolled up like a fruit roll-up and my kneecap was still as you know take to that yeah so I didn’t see it because I didn’t look as high as my thigh and I was just looking on the ground how many inches up your thigh are we talking oh there’s about four or five inches up my back it’s just like a kneecap bulge it had to be about six anyone when you found it we’re like I found my kneecap that’s about nine inches at one time so I’m looking for my kneecap and he told me where it was he gave me guidance we call the images do you start like working it back down like a tube of toothpaste or what smart that’s what I did yeah I did that you see that every woman’s supposed to do that exactly that’s what I’m trying to say cuz we’re human did you google this first no it’s funny that you did the exact motion that I did what my kneecap was locked that’s exactly what I did I would have I would have fainted that’s the motion I would have done while you’re in shock because you don’t feel anything when you pop something so big was it did it hurt immediately or just really because it’s so big it’s like it when someone gets stabbed 27 times they just call the cops they don’t feel the staff there’s so much it’s so much pain that overwhelms your brain so that’s what happened then when I got in the ambulance I cried like a bitch but you know before that I was good but before you got a name the ambulance you push it back down all the way but it was instead it wouldn’t stay it rolled back up because there’s no table where it’s like a yo-yo like a window shade exactly so they sutured it back together and I took it I had to take nine months on I had to do nine months on the corner on the crutch and yeah and that’s when when you showed up for I guess it was Christmas face faces you had did you have a cat you didn’t have a cast on it then so the cast was off yeah so I did nine months in and I was just doing live I had a very weak leg the thing is like I got small you showed us to be atrophied to nothing right atrophy I you know I you don’t use that limp so it’s about the size of my arm I can show you a picture where my actual right leg was the size of my arm because it’s just bones see I had no muscles so it’s funny how fast you lose muscle I’m gonna eat this granola bar as we speak because so fast this one meal right here this is part so you eat throughout the day and call that one big meal it’s not really one melody I’m doing I’m doing you get to eat when the Sun Goes Down okay I got you I get it the sun’s down it is hey guys the sun’s down all right this is this is risky cuz you’re doing most of the talking so you’re right you have to swallow them no I’ll just hold it in my cheek bone like a chipmunk everybody I think we’ve had eating before on this show you know I’ve done my fair share of eating the first time y’all here eating all this show holiday boy so we gotta talk vine I know having talked to you over the years you know when it comes to vomit it comes a YouTube when it comes to any type of social media you’re a student of the medium your brain like from the first time I ever met you it’s like your brain is going 90 miles an hour in just laying claim to take a remote whatever yeah whatever the whatever the digital space has to offer mm-hmm so I want to be schooled on vine you know I’m we don’t do vine why we’ve talked to some Viners but I mean you know there’s only so much margin videos are too long yeah they’re pretty long yeah it just takes too much time is difficult man I find vine actually sometimes more difficult than YouTube because you have six seconds to make millions of laughs it’s difficult to do that you know so um if your punch is not a lot of times when we’re creating a vine we get a team of people together sometimes eight to ten people we sit there when we come over ideas and things like that and you have to make it perfect so sometimes I’ve iron could take hours to do just to get that six seconds so good that everybody liking on this it’s funny because it’s such there’s such a limiting factor such a limiting factor what was your first reaction when hearing about vine five to six seconds like your first reaction first thing you thought well vine wasn’t initially used for the skits that we did we brought this kids to buy um because it really was just used he was doing like a little quick spurts you know at first and then I saw some people doing like quick stories and things then when we started doing like the slapstick you know quick skits it was like wow that’s this is something but but why what made you decide to do anything and it’s I know it was cause of who you are nor was there something specific you have somebody that you knew that was already doing it no no um actually my boy bat started doing it King bat started doing it a few days before me and me and him kind of like started to challenge each other on it like oh now I got a thousand followers and I think I started with 3000 followers by default because my YouTube was big and he says well catch me and I didn’t want him to catch me did you did you start were you like okay we’re gonna do this we’re gonna do it in this way like let’s let’s do sketches yeah because we didn’t know what we did we started doing like just funny stuff then then sketches just came about we started we started doing like tricks cuz back in the day you couldn’t do effects and things yeah cuz so when you were actually using the app like you were using the constraints of the app I’m literally pointing and holding down quite shoot yeah but we would trick the camp we were trying to trick the audience and do things that we would try that everyday we try to do something impossible with like an example so um there were times where you would show up in one area but and then stop violent and show up again and try to make it flawless so you like try to make a flawless seamless cut you like putting your iPhone or phone on a tripod like how are you doing no we were we were just shoot straight off the head so we had like we had like what we’ll call shooters like some of the best vine shooters in the world it’s only when we just practice the craft of shooting vine so we practice like and then we had different different pans that we’ve hit like the whip pan then we hit like the fish pan and we started to make up our own types of shooting pans so actually so we a whip pan was something where you would like act like you slap somebody and they would turn into someone else so when’s the book coming up so I mean you know you can’t really do anything well cause you can allow you to actually upload now so you can just you know and like these days you could use iMovie you’re editing some editing the video yeah I use iMovie it’s Final Cut is for me or whatever there was an intermediary period there when you had a hack to do that before they allowed YouTube oh you had to hack your way in you had to in order to upload a pre edited video right it was called handbrake so you had to handbrake the video it was like three or five or six steps you had to go through but you can also do six point nine which people like but that’s not a lot more to get a half a second but I have a second when you got six seconds is a whole world different that’s a whole joke tell us about you get an extra hold on you get an extra half second when you was uploading back was able to do 6.9 so a lot of our vines was 6.9 so it made it clear you could make the joke more clear you didn’t have to do it in the restrain of 6.5 but now now it’s stuck at 6.5 they won’t allow you to anymore huh explain the genius of the loop you know I mean when you when you first hear about vine is an outsider the first thing is 5 to 6 seconds that’s that’s nothing that’s crazy that this this could never be an art form we would you know we didn’t we never saw that coming meaning me and then okay and it loops it operated the loop made it phenomenal I knew that it would be the next level because the first time you watch is like cool second level you chuckling and third by time you see it five times not only is it can a jingle be stuck in your head but you’re laughing out loud to something that you didn’t see was funny or you miss things and you see again the loop just made it ingenious especially business-y so we we knew that I knew I knew that it would just be the next thing and I knew that’s where Instagram it messed up they tried to come back and come back with video I laughed at and I said you don’t have the loop you messed up and they still don’t have they don’t have a look you know and and if I made it so that the loop was seamless so the loop comes back around and hits you in the face every time so what you have to do is you have to put your punch right on that loop and when you do that you’re gonna make people laugh yeah that’s when you’ve got like the face or I mean oh there’s always something in each one of your vines that when there’s multiple things but it’s just like oh look at the expression that right so we’re hitting with the expression or you know if you okay you like we were just watching the one where you’re moving the guy’s scooter and then it comes up from behind the fence and then you’re like what is this you got a helmet like you cut you off in the middle of you has to be cut off it’ll cut you off in the middle of the sentence and it was it’s genius it’s great you know the slab has you got to come up on a slab has to cut off in the middle of a conversation because that’s what we will laugh at if you finished a joke it’s not a joke anymore so the joke is the cut off how’d you discover what people liked you know trial and error I know within the first three minutes whether or not I delete a vine whether or not you delete a file well there’s heaters and as the leaders you know you know you got a heater because you’re doing your numbers your numbers have to be looping you have to be doing a certain amount of numbers and a certain amount of likes or revine within a certain amount of time now you know it’s a delete so off the top even if you got team revine which is basically yours crew who refines your vines to help it blow up and make the top of the popular page you know whether it’s a heat or delete it like so much time I know and I I’ve been doing long enough to know in three minutes sometimes I wait till seven minutes and what’s the what’s the percentage of the leaders because you’re trying to do you I do about a day right no it depends well as so much competition now but if you if you’re still in the top ten of the comedy channel then I’ll keep it up and I don’t have to do one until the I could I could take a day off but if I’m not in top ten then I know I fall down into like the top 20 percentile then I made the top 20 vine vines on the comedy pages I know I got to do one the next day and so what is the but then you but but then the question of how many of them are you deleting what’s the percentage they’re like no it could be one one out of ten two out of ten sometimes really yeah I do about 80% I mean it’s certainly powerful in post when you go back through them that’s like everything hits and there’s not like God and I have to have all heaters on you or your channel so you know MERS can continue to grow cuz when someone new goes to your account you want them to see either after heed them like oh my god these guys the funniest guy in the world and again all of these principles you guys invented / discovery we made them up and who is the who is the crew that yours that you’re talking about my man crawling a batch yes it’s about ten people it’s myself King Pat clarity Melvin Greg Alfonso and watch the bow he there’s max Jerry and Dan you know some of some of the you know like rudy mancuso maybe even Logan and his brother you know but the main page Kennedy League amv even my assistant she’s getting into it it’s really hard to find funny girl sometimes work with Britney but the main crew is usually the hub of like 10 guys is like what’s good well you know whoever’s in my group chat I couldn’t tell you why just looking at my group chat because we have like no one going a group chat that goes on every day with us like homies and and then we take the vines we throw them in the group chat and if everybody doesn’t really approve you know we pretty much you know put it up so like you know I think I named everybody that’s just became yeah but that’s just to critique each other you’re not you’re not pulling together finances to write I mean is it it’s more please homies Devi’s bonds like I’ll throw it in a group chat and it’s kind of like you know if they don’t like ten people just like it back yeah now I definitely get the impression that there are more successful black Viners and there are successful black YouTube comedians oh yeah and do you guys is that what are the reasons for that and do you think that you guys kind of forming this crew is it’s been instrumental in that well you know you had at one point kinda like YouTube you had the la miners you had to Detroit Viners yet the New York miners you hit the Miami finals Danny all cupped and everybody’s in LA now because I’m so big we you know our comedy troupe is just like you know we would like to make the LA – you know I’m I think it does play the point that we do work with each other and continue to help each other the audience grow I’m like you know do you doing YouTube but is it a black thing you wouldn’t understand kind of situation no that’s different than YouTube or what it’s nothing about the it’s cuz that the type of jokes you could tell a vine you can’t really tell on YouTube because like you could tell racial jokes and they’re edgy or jokes on your vine and on YouTube the comics is different like if I tell the same joke on YouTube I did something where I slap a white person and then they slap a black person back people on YouTube like oh my god this is rishis gonna take this down on vine is just like oh my god that’s so funny it’s just the way we let the audience’s he vine like we say there’s so many times on vine they just laugh now you said on YouTube they’re gonna definitely pull it you know I’m saying vine is just one edgy and they allow you to get away with a lot more stuff on vine because it’s like the Wild West so a lot of the jokes that we tell them vine I can’t do on YouTube my audience on YouTube is just way more picky than they are on vine they just crybabies more so I know vine is just like okay this is funny let’s go you know it’s right type of you said table comedy I mean is it is it like a different audience do you have a wider audience on YouTube and a blacker audience on vine you don’t even tell no you I don’t I don’t think it’s a difference I don’t think it’s a different audience I think it’s different people I think it’s different people altogether I didn’t I never pushed my my vine for my YouTube until I hit you know almost 2 million followers on vine I never even pushed it so like there’s a lot of people on vine I don’t even know I do music so if I go my god you rap I’m like what I’ve been doing this forever you know so right I never wanted to mesh audiences like that I always wanted to get a new audience every time I even when I go to like snapchat or Facebook I I built in totally new audience where all the fabulous looking women come from on your in your vines oh well you know vine is 70 percent females so you always gonna find five and everyone wants to do about it the thing about they don’t realize how long it takes but they say it’s just six seconds of my time that’s why we work with everybody you know that’s why we didn’t contact anyone from Bieber to Floyd Mayweather to whoever we work with and all we already work with they contacted us because they don’t mind though in six seconds but it’s like YouTube like all the cameras I gotta go here is just something I think is all in the mentality of how people think about it you know so people don’t mind lending you six seconds when it comes to the late the beautiful women aren’t friends a lot of my friends well I’m always gonna have beautiful girls in my vines because we know that’s what sells beautiful girls sell and oh and you get hit by every beautiful girl in the world wants to eat you up once you got those numbers alright so we’re going let’s go back into business direct yeah let’s talk because I do want to know I’ve heard yeah I’ve heard of people throw around okay well yeah these these vine brand deals are just going going wild like brand deals are crazy over there’s no partner program no with you tubing you slap ads around and over and Google takes care all that and you just get your cut and you know yeah but with vine it’s the Wild West like I said companies hit you up independent Indies hit you up you you know they sometimes they just PayPal you a lot of money and then you just do a six-second vine for them there’s times there’s someone you’re proud of I did someone who beats that that I still kept up because I just like the numbers that I did on it you know I didn’t want four beats and what was the creative like how did you put was it the headphone where was the head on the commercial thing you know they did on the main commercial with um you know the camera goes around the headphones mine was on music changes to time so I did something from the 80s in 2000 and 2015 I really have phones the whole time and you want your your starts as a little wardrobe a little no the module stays the same but it starts as a mini me post to be about I guess I’m like nine or ten or like five then it goes to like Sun who’s supposed to be me again he’s 14 then it goes to me you know grown man and it’s like the song’s changed so goes from like I think I’m Michael Jackson’s song to like maybe bye bye bye to the young thug well you can’t even understand you use these unlicensed clips well that’s because it’s the Wild West you can use whatever you want online and what doesn’t cure there’s no the agency person or the brand person that you always have you to it there’s no ads or whatever so they don’t care you use whatever you want to get any music you want people love when you use their music on vibe we want one of our main jobs online is to break music I get caught you know contacted from almost every label out from Universal Capitol we broke so many songs last year that you probably wouldn’t even know from wiggle to my hitter to whatever violence broke those songs I got a I got a check and I dispersed it amongst five or six minors on my team and we break this on and so then some up but then some of them you you just say okay well in the contract I got to keep this thing up for a week and then I and then I’m gonna take it down before brandy oh yeah we keep it up up me the contract is usually a week or two ten days because that’s when the band kind of like dies out and you pull it I just didn’t pull the beats one cuz I like but I’ve put up brand deals and then after a week it goes down we pushed apps to the top of App Store you know we we pushed songs to the top of value to his charts I put our song on myself and it set on the top of iTunes shots in the hip-hop section for two weeks you know so hmm I mean so you’ve obviously asserted yourself in this medium and you’ve done so much with YouTube and you know we’ve got all the history there but I’d love to paint more the derive the whole backstory and just go back to that Oh give us the DeStorm backstory where’d you grow up I grew up in um I was born in Virginia stay there for like not even a year and then my mom moved and I have seven siblings we grew up I grew up in Baltimore the projects of Baltimore City you know Baltimore is a very unique town you Baltimore is one of the only cities in this country that they use to actually test new drugs so like if you think they like the government whoever whoever it is like if there’s a new drug on the market they just put it pumping in the black community and bought it’s Weiss a lot of crackheads like when they say crackheads that’s like Baltimore that’s what pretty much was a minute I think of the wire the the series the wire is like a very polished version of Baltimore and it’s super gritty and it’s super great it’s a great I mean have you watched it or you’re like why I watched I watched some of it and I was just like oh my god this is not really my town my town is worse than this worse than that oh yeah I can’t imagine what do you mean worse how could it be worse than the then the wire what white people enjoy on television it’s closer cuz you got a good actually I saw like bodies in those row houses when coming home from school I see dead bodies in the row houses I see like a seven year old girl gets shot in the head in the bodega day I’m calling bodegas of Ottawa in the corner store you know you see some crazy how over you when you see a seven-year-old gets shot and I said that’s white like 13 and this is just straight gunfire yeah because it’s some guy old another guy money he didn’t have it and he shot at him and they hit the girl did you know I know the girl no she probably from the projects across the street but I mean in Baltimore you fighting every day I mean it wasn’t a date I went by what we wasn’t in some type of fight you know or me my brother’s wasn’t fighting other kids and stuff though and you said in your draw my life video on YouTube that your mom and you you the kids you guys left your dad and that was when are your dad left Wow therefore I was living in the projects my mom and dad was happily met well not unhappily married and he was abusive so my father was abusive man and he would hit on my mom so I would fight him and he would knock me out so she didn’t want me to grow up and even kill him or him kill me so she left and took the kids and he didn’t give her the house so that’s when we moved to the projects so she took the kids we moved to the projects and then it’s like whoa crack crap I’m 13 just becoming a teenager and I’m living in the projects now I got to learn how to not be a suburban ish middle-class kid now I gotta learn how to be a ghetto kid so from 12 I think I was 12 or so from 12 to you know 17 18 you know I’m growing up in the projects hmm trying to learn to adapt and so at that point was your dad just completely out of the picture yeah he was gonna he too he bounced he went he was some crazy liver liberalist who move who was you know conspiracy theorists who just dipped you know I don’t even know if he’s still alive I heard a few years ago he was dead somewhere so I don’t know hmm how did you adapt um to the projects you you learn how to fight my mom put me in like things like karate so I had my purple belt and go in you know Taekwondo and you learn how to just street fight a lot we didn’t have money so we moved around a ladder with like five elementary schools five middle schools and we would just get evicted a lot you know we was eating from behind the supermarkets you know just get out and to adapt we would um just we would just fight I had my brothers my mom just taught us to stick together you can’t come in the house unless you bring your brothers with you so I was one of those things where family was just tight we’re still tight today because of things that she taught so you know you you learn how to just become conniving I’d you know boost cars and running you know just things I wasn’t so proud of but breaking in people’s houses and stuff you know to survive you know it’s just what we did it’s did you did you get caught yeah I got caught I went you know I got locked up a few times you know I got um went to juvie first and then you know when you first get locked up the first thing they say is you got to go in and you gotta knock some I upside the head are you gonna become somebody’s bitch so I went in and I just had to knock some kid upside the head so they would know that I wasn’t playing games that worked oh yeah it worked and so you were the youngest boy in the family right younger sisters but all older brothers oh yeah four younger sisters three older brothers one of my brother’s was a like you know he wasn’t within the house as much because he was you know sling and he was a street pharmacist oh I get it right I guess so I mean with three older teenage brothers my in this and you know the outcome of a black male in that situation and typically you killed or you get you go to prison or you go to prison or you die of something like some disease and somebody mean I don’t have any friends that grew up in that area that made it out but my mom was she was one of those types that kept us in activities I think it was a blessing that we didn’t have a TV and radio so she kept us just doing creative things we make up songs and just rap about cars going down the street and we would just and then she sent me to the School of the Arts on a scholarship because I was a good artist so I went to like butter City School of the Arts and I started joining like murals on church walls and in mosques and things like that like the Last Supper and and Allah permission with formation didn’t just break in and do it guys so did the juvie experience was that like the awakening or and then it was the turning point to positivity oh did it did it go further in the opposite direction after that no it went further in the opposite direction after that but I think the awakening was you know um just just realizing how hard my mother was working to try and do something positive like she’s busting her ass to get us to do something and just seeing everybody around me die how bad did it get for you personally um he got bad but I think the music you know I was I was always running track with his never no money in in in track and field but the music when I song hit the radio and my mother she approached sweets like God you got you you know you boys eyetality you got nothing and you got a song that’s playing in all those nightclubs it’s all really yeah we had you know they didn’t have Baltimore club music like wait for the big group all that type of stuff so we had to like hits on the radio me win like me and my brother okay so you know my brother actually I felt was more talent than me who’s a better rapper you know he just had more skills and was that did that come from like mixtapes being passed around or from knowing somebody and haven’t know we do a TV studio we know a DJ we would just go into his studio and just do stuff and then we had a song that just blew up you know and then you know all the radio just picked it up and then my mother was like if you can make it here didn’t just go to New York and see if you can make it there and I’m like 17 18 years old my you know my son’s on the way and I’m like I gotta get out of here so I threw me a party and I just went to New York yeah so so how are you and when you had your son uh I was I guess I was turning 18 when TV on was born um 18 or 19 years old I wasn’t 20 yet hmm and you but you were so before he was born you went off to New York in order to so yeah so I I am mom up on her challenge go another day another chance day another challenge I would I knew a guy named doobie who worked at Bad Boy Records and me and him would talk back and for and I remember being in Marilyn and I would do I did like a hundred drop so different DJs and I would email them to him and they were using them in their mixtapes so my name is blowing up he’s like this DeStorm guy he’s kind of like blowing up on the mixtape scene and then he was gonna do B so I hurt my stuff he was like man you gotta come in New York I work a bad boy and in your mind someone works at a label you gonna go be like Oh like this is huge so I packed up my little eclipse I mean I got a little money to get that I was working at Red Lobster down in Maryland and I packed my clips and I just went to New York I landed I was standing this crackheads house on 135th 134 fine and platon Powell and um you know when I got there I’m I’m working at bad boy as an engineer with him and he got fired because him and um I think like Harv Pierrot I don’t know who it was at the time they got into an argument and then doobie was like man you know if you came here with me we out and I’m like what you mean we out I came all the way from Baltimore I can’t just be out but my loyalty had you know I had to roll with him so I didn’t have that gig anymore but I had my job from Red Lobster transfer to New York New York actually I worked there with alpha cat from you to lobster yeah so you met same exact times where I met out okay so we work it we working at Red Lobster Times Square whatever and I got fired because I had these long braids in my hair and I remember like even I’ll forget what I might want to cut your head it’s your only job I cut my hair Samson losses they lost his power like that and then next thing I got fired but I sued the whole Red Lobster organization not one and it I didn’t give you that take I took years but the point is I want so I didn’t get any money at the time so I’m jobless and my last check was like like you got seven different types of shrimp shred a lifetime shrimp I know Fredo sauce and biscuit cutter biscuits cheddar biscuits I but at the time you’re you have braids but you have no job you have no bad-boy connect had nothing I had a chin what you had a check for like $400 and with the four hundred and some odd dollars I forgot what it was I guess you gotta watch my jaw my life plug and I’m so with the four hundred and some odd dollars I I bought five items I called my brother and I told him when I was going to do it was my master plan at the time I I think back and I guess I’m crazy but I paid my cell phone bill for two months I brought two outfits I bought an amp and a keyboard I got Tennant windows for my car and um tented windows for your car right so let me tell you the plan so so the plan was I knew see the crackhead right that at whose house I was living in she had his pimp and he was a big black dude right and I knew I couldn’t take him Oh at least I didn’t think I could take him so I know if I didn’t pay his rent he was gonna kick me out of the house right so I said I this they’re gonna kick me out of the house so I need to tape the windows on my car so I could have somewhere to live okay got it got it so privacy right so I bought the amp in the keyboard which is ironic because it’s an eclipse I bought the app in the keyboard because I knew that I needed a job I knew that I had a couple little bit of pipes on me and so I said in New York no one knows my face like that I could go into the subways and I could sing and make some money at least so I could put gas in the car and get food every night until I get back on my feet so that was gonna be my job so I was the amputee keyboard thing right right so then I bought the two outfits because I knew I had to continue to do gigs throughout New York because I wanted to get a big break so I was still doing shows in Harlem Brooklyn Queens and Manhattan doan shows because and you got to look good at these shows cuz no one’s gonna take your demo anything if you don’t look good at the shows so I had to get the outfits gotta look dope in New York got it so finally I paid my phone bill for two months because the scariest person in the world to me is my mother and then she can’t get in contact with me and I don’t have my phone on she’s gonna whip my ass plus I was lying to her telling I was hanging out with Diddy and stuff and she’s like hi you’re falling off her if you hang with Diddy so I had to keep living this life so I kept my phone on and said good I would just keep my phone on so that was what I did with the last bit of the money so next thing you know I’m living in my car and everything start work out I told my brother would happen he thought I was crazy and we continued on to the on that road so your brother was up there with you too no he was he was back home telling me bringing his home and take that $400 get on that Greyhound did it get worse before it got better Paula got WAY worse I came home one day in the car that I that I was living in it got ups the Eclipse come on man it’s a dope car whoever has an eclipse man shoutout to you oh the clips got burned up so sorry what you weren’t in it I know I was coming I was I was coming at home and they burnt my cookies burnt down they said it was solids okay so it was a solar eclipse it was a solely the tinted windows didn’t help this is this story is crazy hey man it was a solar eclipse they burnt my car down the app keyboard everything was in the clips is that your hope your whole life was in their whole life I had the outfit on my back and my phone in my pocket but I had to pay the bill I was with Sprint you know they cut you off once you go a penny over mm-hmm anybody would spray yeah I know that I think AT&T or Verizon they burn your okay so what happened then who is they by the way I don’t know the cop said it was some kids who did it or they said it was an electrical fire but I didn’t get it because it was the middle of February it’s freezing snow was like frickin five feet high how does it even does it even a flame at that dead temperature science science I don’t know definitely weird so I mean so then what you’re homeless I’m homeless eventually I found myself living in the subway so I’m in a subway system and I was one of those homeless people in New York what were you what were you thinking at that point we you know I’ve always wondered when somebody’s in that situation are they thinking oh I’m I’m gonna get out of this it’s only a matter of time are you thinking like this just the beginning of me being this person for you know actually you’d be thinking like damn I’m hungry um let me find out how am I eat right that’s all you really think are you immediate you’re just immediate about these thinking about your day’ll your day-to-day you don’t think about your future you don’t think about your past you just think about your get that moment like I’m cold okay I’m hungry oh my god you got McDonald’s I smell so good so the day the dust is going through your head you know any because you can’t think straight he’s gonna feed your brain so I would sit up you know till 6:00 I would ride the subways you know throughout the day and just try to figure things out and you know when you finally eat then you start like okay now what am I gonna do no one’s gonna talk to me cuz I’m probably dirty so I’ll go and make season I’ll wash up and I’m okay now what am I gonna do so you just sign up Macy’s well yeah because they had great great sinks that was clean hmm so let go no 40 seconds to you go to me was 42nd whatever Macy’s is on and I was just go up there and wash up in these things really you know and I thought that was just my life for about six weeks which is a long time people like oh you just home ec the money that’s a long-ass time to be on the street um so you know I don’t camp more than two nights at a time yeah right that’s all right best thing is no rat infested subway systems you know I was an in February somewhere it’s cold New York right so some of the so from there um I was I’m trying to figure things out you know I’m like what am I gonna do I guess I got to go home so i vish I decided I’m gonna go home and I was walking to make the phone call to go home true story I was going to go call my brother and say yo I’m coming home I’m not gonna make it and a card and then this one said in my job my life it fell into the snow and I’m looking down at this car and I’m like what do I call this card a business a business card so I like they’re calling them on a business card or do I call my brother and go home what do you mean just a random number on a business cuz because the thing is like when you don’t all these shows people give you a bunch of business cards and things so I had a bunch of business cards and one of the business cards fell into the snow I picked the business card up and I said I’m gonna call that number I called the number on a business card this girl she answers the phone she’s like oh my god they stormed my boss he loves you that deaf he loved you demo he has to meet you and I’m just as proud as dude I’m like well if you want to meet me meet me now cuz I got meetings and then she’s she’s like no you can’t meet him now I gotta be amazing to meet him in two weeks and I’m like thinking in my head I ain’t got two weeks I ain’t got two out I have two minutes so I was like now you know what never mind cuz I thought it was both because it’s all book to me by at that point everybody’s bought so I was ready to hang up when she said no no let me just put Jonathan on the phone she puts Jonathan Feingold on the phone and John is like oh my god they stole my love you demo man you gotta meet me he said but I’m going to go out to the Hamptons and chill I’ll meet you in a week I said Jonathan man you man whatever I’m out the hey no no no come meet me right now sorry I called his bluff I jumped the turnstile went to the Lower East Side and I met with Jonathan going to his pad there’s lace – got platinum albums and stuff I mean could he tell that you were just off the street at that point he was going up he was going by my demo I know but when you walked in the room when I walked in the room I don’t know what the hell he was telling but I told him my story like straight up he was just running his mouth like I can do this for you I could hear I was like well look look man if he will do whatever for me cut me a check I’m living on the streets and he was shocked he was floored so he cut me a check right on the spot so and what would you do with that deal – um from from there I’m I went from a hostel to a little apartment to a studio to you know a bigger studio he started getting me placements on shows on MTV vh1 I did some backing music for like aa I did a lot of stuff what what years are we talking about this was this was – yes 2005 mm you know for 2005 okay and um I started getting back into my track and field into my fitness and everything you know just in case the music didn’t go well so I just became you know a better better athlete all the while my family knew none of this was going on so what did they think was happening they thought I was just had to label working the whole time so so what for me they actually start coming up and then we start here things in like wow oh you really came up and I’m like yeah I sure did so it was just one of those situations I mean I’ve been through poverty so it was nothing you know like for me to like live that lie and then they found out later it was like I knew something was up I knew it you ain’t no when you talked about some of the jobs that you had I don’t know exactly what 30 jobs okay 30 jobs yeah so you mentioned some interesting ones a construction worker pizza boy security guard stripper I was I was as job as a stripper I got into stripping cuz me and my boy Sean it’s gonna be a had a had a party at in college and I went to Morgan State then I went to Bowie State which is a d3 school but she had a party in college and the stripper didn’t show up so my friend Shayna and Candace invited me and Sean what’s up Sean they invited us out to actually dance for the you know because we were fit so they said once I’ll come dance boys will give you 200 bucks a lot of money and cause me ramen noodles so I was like you know yeah what come dance for you so we crawled out on our hands and knees on all fours out of your bathroom I mean it was nine girls in the room I get up on the bed I’m dancing in front of the girls in this big girl she pulls down my pants and they all start screaming I’m like Oh first I was embarrassed but then I wasn’t anymore so the next thing you know my Sean’s in the corner with four girls entertaining them and I’m on the bed entertaining the other five girls they paid us to pull up I was like oh my god this is amazing that’s the stripper that’s a strike that’s what in a moment you realize I am a stripper [Applause] Yeah right she stripped when you were stripped but the thing is like five then then we started a company called Five Guys productions it was me shine this dude named dreads and two other guys and we would just go with different colleges from cop in the Morgan to Howard and we just go to all these different colleges and we just dance for college girls and right then I found myself and then I was a stripper so I started like dancing at a nightclub and so that was between that was between Baltimore and New York that was the college experience the college experience that was fun okay so then I’m I’m trying to connect the dots or I’d love to be connected between the music experience to YouTube okay so I was doing music I I were when I finally I went to Universal Records and I worked on there like Jeff Finster I went to Atlantic on the Damon Eden who cut me my first check for three songs for a single and and and from there I started writing for a lot of artists I met with like Whitney Houston which was amazing rest in peace so I was just meeting a lot of artists no but you met Whitney Houston in person in order to potentially write write three songs three songs and they enjoyed the songs actually but she was going through some things and stuff like that so that was kind of crazy but I was I was actually becoming a more noted writer like neo at the time young writer in New York but music doesn’t sell it’s fast and it takes a while to get the checks and the clear and stuff so I knew I was good at fitness so what I did was I got involved with fitness and I became a personal trainer I got my NASM my AC AC e and my EAS M which is three certification is doing fitness I became a personal trainer and then eventually a master training I got my Stremme stretch Pilates and kickboxing certifications also so I started to train a lot of clients at crunch fitness then I went over to new health & Racquet then I went over new exports Club for a few years also so I’m training that New York force Club in Brooklyn and I had this old-ass lady she was like DeStorm I don’t remember my workouts can you put them on the internet for me so I started putting workouts on MySpace and what do you remember her name because I don’t need to thank you know all right so I don’t remember her name though but I remember putting her workouts on MySpace and she didn’t were you like talking to her specifically no no but okay hello Gladys yeah I was like look Gladys damn it let me put your workouts on MySpace so you can stop forgetting me Gladys man so I’m putting Gladys’s workouts on MySpace but she was too old did she didn’t have a myspace account you know cuz it was young guys me Tom you know so I’m we’re sitting on MySpace and all my other clients way he would log in because they had you know myspace account he didn’t have one so I was like I kind of finds where else to put their workout so I’m looking for and then I found YouTube I go to youtube and this is whole new world I put it on there and when I put it on it was like getting all these comments with the fitness videos was getting comments for people I didn’t know I’m from Germany just hit my video so I read the article and it was talking about guys like you and Phil Franco and stuff like that no like who would ease what do you mean a youtuber what does that even mean so I start studying you guys and I’m like wow these guys have like this is crazy so that was back when before you could just get a partnership by uploading a video this was like when you had to have those three stipulations a certain amount of views so I said I’m fighting get these describe when I get my first Google check I’m gonna be the man so I’m right I’m right trying to get my first Google check so that I can start making money on YouTube and that’s how I started getting knowing the whole YouTube thing just fitness yeah I was just doing fitness not no music at all but then like would you even like if you go back now the earliest videos I there’s a I think there’s a lot that you made that you are now private but there’s still some fitness videos there but they kind of have a hook to him oh yeah that it’s seen I don’t know if you change the titles later or if you even knew from the get-go from your studies that you give it that title like what was the high jump winner oh yeah it was like the highest jump ever or the best push-ups ever I knew that I had to give it a time I knew that early though all those video get millions of views I have some of the highest view fitness videos because I knew if I titled them I knew years down the road that people will watch them because of the title and thumbnail I just knew that off the jump because this is back when you only could pick with the three thumbnails you couldn’t even upload a thumbnail right so I was doing that and then I said I said I got to become a youtuber not just a guy on you two I have to become a personality and that’s when I think it was like seven eight nine was that that was the defining moment for me because I that’s when I met you guys yeah and I it was the it was seven eight eight and I said I can write songs I’ve been doing this all my life I said I’m gonna make a song it was 11 o’clock at night I wrote the song I’m at seven eight nine whatever that song it just justice just to fill people in seven eight nine July 8 2009 July of 2009 was a YouTube gathering of YouTube creators one of the first one of the first first we went to it was just creator LED like some smaller YouTube channel in New York pull this thing together in New York right so Lou up there and I wrote a number that’s when I wrote that song and I said I’m gonna get all these big youtubers I studied all y’all and I saw them get all these big youtubes to be in my in my song I said why would they say no it’s a gather and this is the way you do it and if I write something and I show them that this guy has all this talent they’ll they’ll jump in and that’s when I did that um well we were in it right yeah you were yes again a student and then I just a voracious appetite for figuring it out and then a tenacious commitment to get it I asked what I remember for the first time I met you was voracious and tenacious mentally and you were gonna kill like no you knew it you know and I even made the lyrics you know that everybody want to sing it you know I didn’t know but I do you could come subscribe to my YouTube almost famous and then I would just let him know that I’m almost family cuz I knew one day I would would crack you know site oh it all makes sense now yes I had like a plan you know and then it just saw just like formulated and came together you and so the next few years you experience some incredible success on YouTube and then you’ve been pretty public about this in 2012 there was a change on the YouTube platform that impacted your views you actually wrote a piece in Forbes about that it’s like you’re the another day another challenge guy you did a whole year of that which you know was really sent you through the roof on YouTube but then in your own words that I don’t know if you use the word collapse but you tell us well I did like IIIi did like I fell – which was doing that – challenges it was a hundred channel I did a hundred challenges um I just did them like every Monday and Wednesday actually talked to Joe Penna michiga Tommy and he was like I’m doing Tuesdays and Thursdays they still want to do Mondays and Wednesdays and you just blow up just do every two times a week he’s like if you write a good song and I said I write I just write a good song and next thing you know I’m you know making CNN and you know everything from national Geographics you name it and I’m starting working with collaborators not clever with everybody from you guys – Justine – you name it every youtuber then I think 2012 came around late 2012 they started changing the platform and this was back when when if you had good content especially as a musician you can compete against the you know the Rihanna’s Eminem’s and if you have good content you’ll make front page and just you just do it it was fair YouTube changed the platform on us and when they changed the platform on us I’m not gonna be quiet about it that so I said yeah you changed the platform and when they did that I think a lot of the grandfather channels in there started to lose a lot of the views and my channel was hit and I noticed I started getting all these comments from people saying oh really I didn’t get your video and then my Twitter started started blowing up and I was like how many of you got my videos and everybody’s like none of us so I went to my facebook like none of us so I I realized that so I went and I took a trip to AXA YouTube because do – loved loved me at the time and they still do so I would take a trip to YouTube and I wasn’t supposed to talk about it as they say but I don’t care man I make my own money I went down and I said is there a problem with my channel they said yes there is a problem with the channel that we can’t fix on the back end they said only about 20 to 30% of your your subscribers are getting your videos and we can’t really fix it I said well can you at least take this over million subscribers I have and push them to another channel so that I can start because I’m tired of making content and it fail it because as soon as they change the platform I went from getting a million views of video to literally probably like 150 to 200,000 views of video so I’m at the top of my YouTube game and I’m like wait a minute so this is not you know it’s not working for me anymore so that’s why I did the they was like well we can’t fix it I said well you got to figure something out because you know I’m losing you know six seven you know so much money you know and not even not just my fans are not seeing it so I got people complaining to me like oh my god we’re not getting your videos you sellout you left us I’m like no I’m posting but you’re not seeing my video what you want me to do so it became a thing so that’s when I did the article and for a new and new media rockstars just telling them about how YouTube was broken and they need to fix it cuz YouTube started focusing on doing so many other things with VEVO and I get it it’s business but at the same time they forgot about the little guys like and people who spent their life growing YouTube and putting their name behind YouTube and I wasn’t gonna be quiet about it but then what’s the conclusion of the matter for you at this point was it well now look at me on vine how do you see YouTube did something change or did you shift no it’s just like when I see something blowing up you know like I watch the kids especially like my son and him they’re like cool kids so I like if I see them on something heavy I said wait this must be the next thing so it’s like that are you I’m fine I’m like what’s fine so I said okay these kids are watching it every day so I’ll say if it’s this audience is the attention span is that short and now they watch them right I gotta get on fine but what happened on YouTube and how do you see it now because there’s well I see YouTube now is just a place I see it for my personal channel I see it as a place to put longer form content I still look and I know my fans are still there the ones that can see it and I’m never gonna probably get the views that I used to get unless I grow a new audience on that but now that I’ve grown I have almost I have five almost five million followers on vine already and I can take those five million followers and just start telling them to go check out my YouTube videos and I can grow a new audience that will see the videos and although the million that I lost or whatever on you tube already a gun I could get a whole totally new audience to start watching my longer form content and I knew that was the overall plan so I put I dedicated a year and a half into vine and and you know I grew 5 million followers and I’m gonna take those 4.5 million followers you know I’m getting 300 400 thousand followers a month on on vine and your YouTube channel is your is the home for your singles that you release so yeah so now I use it for like I use my music channel just to release singles and things and a lot I’m gonna push through my vine and stuff like I put out a victory dance and it’s already hitting 600,000 views that’s good for me on YouTube and how much our time and energy are you investing as a musician well you know music is my first thing so I’m always gonna vest time but I’m not putting out EPS oh I’m not putting out albums anymore I’m just trying to get that one single because my job I already already did a single that did 100,000 units I put out a you know a a record and I sold 50,000 units but as being a vine comedian a real barrier to being a legitimate recording artist no I don’t think so because of the type of comedy I do like I’m not doing like you know I’m just being me and I just find it funny you know it’s not like me acting as a character so it doesn’t take away from me as a recording artist and Plus in the beginning I always established that I was a recording artist so like you know I go on in I just do funny stuff and there’s other you know musicians on vine that’s just you know do funny stuff you know I’m saying so I don’t think it hinders me I think that but to be six but to be successful as either one of those things don’t it take everything you’ve got I mean especially with the way the music industry is you know because I you know you know I’ve gained so many relationships now you know I’m saying like now like oh my god now he’s chilling with Justin Bieber now like oh my god now Jake’s calling they wanted Jake want to go vine Nicky laughing at the vines oh my god that’s so funny you know I’m saying so you got all the biggest musicians in the world who I think vine is is old owner we gotta pause now cuz you just dropped a couple of names and we got a we got it so you’re talking hanging out with Justin Bieber was talking with Drake well yeah because these are real experiences these are well yeah I got a vine with Justin you know we did it vine with Justin I know at what point in in his life was this there’s been many phases he has allowed to fake actually he’s one of the coolest dudes man we now go to parties we just wanna party with him last week you know so like he’s a cool dude this is you know like III think in his his situation a lot of you just don’t understand like it’s hard I wouldn’t want to live his life because he can’t even go out in the street you know and it’s just difficult because I when I go to his house I see the lines wrapped around the corners like can you go to Chipotle you know like it’s just hard but to live that life so you just become this introvert and it’s kind of a problem hanging you know hanging around but he’s cleaned itself up a lot I’ve seen when he went through the whole phases of like messing with some some hard stuff and now he’s like you know he’s good you know and he’s working on music again he’s he’s doing well but when you talk about Drake or Nicki or any of these people I mean I guess your point is that your vine status is your is your access to everyone whatever whatever you want whatever you want vayas dick with YouTube it was more of an underground movement but vine is more of an overground moving the traditional really latched on the vine that’s why you see them on worldstar and things like that and actually in reality I get more views from my vines on YouTube then my YouTube channel ever got just by just by you know people putting my compilation compilations yeah my compilations do better than my entire YouTube channel so you know vine opened doors that I never I never was able to touch you know the people that I wanted to contact even through my youtube you know the vine just opened those doors you know we work with everybody from kidding – you name them we probably work with them all on the vine because it touch traditional meter media more than you know YouTube did and now your son just passed a million yeah my son had a million followers on vine shoutout TV on who had a million followers on vine so he’s playing he’s killing it – so I mean tell us about that because you know we’ve got kids a little bit younger than him who are asking about starting YouTube channels etc and we and we it’s so far they haven’t done anything but you know what’s your what’s the status your relationship with your with your son now is he live with you how often you yeah this is me um we both live together just me and him I’m a single father who’s raising him and his crazy-ass friends I’m gonna feel like I’m a father to everybody but I raised him you know and he’s doing well you know he he fell he sees us finding and things like around that so makes him kind of want to do it he got involved in it early and he’s a no now he has a million followers on vine he’s about to get you know he just landed he just did that national Jordan commercial you know with Jordans first community one of Jordans first shoot commercials that came back my son was the main character in that and he’s getting a lot of work you know Disney Nickelodeon now he’s about to get like a huge management manager who’s gonna like really just start to push his career to the next level he’s a little lazy TV I’ll get off your ass but you know so what’s your I mean what’s your fatherly advice for him um I just tell him to do what he loved you know don’t don’t following anyone’s footsteps do what he wants to do like if he wants to be a football player doctor astronaut whatever he wants to do I want him to do I don’t I don’t force him to do anything and he just does it on his own ecologist I just want him to stick to something I just tell him don’t be a quitter that’s that’s my advice whatever it is he do just don’t quit and and then he’s doing well you know he gets his own brand deals and um you know I can’t you know I I can’t even control that little bastard man well you I mean you tell him not to follow anyone’s footsteps but if he follows in yours I think that uh he’ll be fine he’ll be just fine yeah so yeah we appreciate hearing your story and I would ask you to sign the table but unlike any other guest ever you just sat down and signed it oh man you know their egg ban people at home like they tempt me they got water coffee in a magic market man it’s like you know what you want me to do so I grab the magic marker and I just had to hit a vein it’s fine it’s done it’s good okay and all right and this is done I guess thanks man no doubt thanks for having me [Music] and there you have it our ear biscuit with DeStorm power I learned a few things I think the main thing that I’m taking away from this is that if and a business card ever drops in the snow mm-hmm you should pick it up call it no questions asked what you should call the number on the card you shouldn’t call the card you should call the number on the how would I call the card when you mean like a dog I said pick the card up you said call it you mean the number on the card that’s right thank you for Claire I know that you’re sitting there and whatever you’re sitting in our honor listening to us and you were totally confused somebody here may be jogging maybe you’re jogging thank you for clarifying that I let DeStorm know what you think of his story and his conversation with us tweeted him it’s DeStorm and use hashtag ear biscuits as de storm nothing the thing we’re like lightning and thunder happens now in that’s in the TV movie that we’re working on for this four day storms life I do think that when the the business card drops into the snow that there should be a beam of light on it because we can really sensationalize things right and then the snow starts to melt no no the business card when it falls it melts all the snow around it and it can have a mouth and it can start talking mmm that’s a little weird that’s going too far then you really could call the card a little mixed media action happen in there special effects claymation it’s gonna be a claymation business card it’s gonna be like a star call the number written on me so look change you looked forward to that in 2018 but we’re gonna start working on it immediately will be instagramming from the from the set yep and you know what that may be the final thing that causes us to start a vine you know the making day storm the movie because I mean I gotta tell you I will say that every time we talk to someone who has a vine presence which I you know I know we talked to alpha cat and then we talked to they storm we talked to anybody else who’s really killing it on vine I don’t know not yet we will do that more in the future but and you’ll feel the pressure to it you always feel this pressure there’s only six seconds right I mean you could do that we can carve that kind of time out right what pressure do you feel having listen to this here biscuit with us I hope it is a pressure to feel less pressure and just to lay back and enjoy what we’re pumping into your earhole negative pressure yeah feel the negative pressure that’s what we should make a shave the suction feel the suction on your earholes nope that’s not t-shirt material nope okay listen next week yeah we’ll be here [Music] [Music]