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Joshi at least write a book he can write before word has inspired us to write a book especially when he talks he shares all the hilarious stories basically he tracked down all of the girls that he dated and tried to find out what went wrong so yeah yeah that was pretty good we also explored the crazy questions he’s been asked over the years about having one leg now Josh he’s an amazing example of someone who has been making a living at something they’re passionate about and also good at but that’s not an easy thing to do it’s not easy to figure out how to get started that’s why the guys at roadtrip nation have put together a book called road map no this is not the Atlas making a big comeback I can’t say I wasn’t a little disappointed that the Atlas is not even going to come back because very large road maps or we’re a very important part of the trunk in my dad’s car oh I I remember that or behind the seat or the top of the dashboard yeah I remember that no the tagline of this book is 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followed no road map the only book you need Cobb all right now on to the biscuit tell us about your Halloween costumes like we’re nowhere near Halloween but something tells me that you’ve been thinking about it constantly year round based on your track record yeah it’s become a big thing I love it yeah thank you but yeah it’s it’s a weird thing in that it’s so many ways one thing like as a kid like I grew up in a really conservative religious home okay we didn’t celebrate Halloween at all I’m the only braided harvest yeah yeah we’d have these yeah the pseudo like harvest festivals or whatever is Festival I’m loose or we’d celebrate the Reformation weirdly information day yeah exactly like yeah Martin Luther like but would you do trunk-or-treat in like the parking lot of the church no I don’t eat what is that they do that now where they bring all the insulated families into the whole album to go leave the church and go into the parking lot on Halloween night and then they go around to the trunks of cars that the church members have parked and then they give out candy out of the trunk of the car huh yeah and then they go around the neighborhood and they nail the knife I’ve theses on the doors of everyone if we were at home I mean we literally like lock the doors turned all the lights off so that like no one would come to our door because my parents like thought if we gave out candy we were we were like contributing to the devil oh yeah you’re a part of the problem yeah so we’re you ever tricked because of that right yeah like people were like oh you guys don’t give out candy here’s an egg on your no I think people just just you know we take it actually that did happen once I don’t know if it was in relation to Halloween oh it was you but now did you bring that up it very well could have been retribution from the neighborhood yeah that’s what it was for us laughs you’ve not egged not contributing to the sugar but yeah so I never really even wore any Halloween costumes until college and perhaps appropriately given the religious background my first Halloween costume I dressed as the Holy Ghost I just literally just wore sheet over my butt I just put on a sheet look that was how it was like the worst whoever it was like so little work what made your ghost holy though well it was always on the sheets and no it was wouldn’t even do that I guess I was just yeah it was it was I’m not going to defend the console I will say though that me and to my friends were in on it and so we were the Holy Trinity I had a friend who at the time had really long hair and wore a robe so obviously he was Jesus and then my other friend had like a long white beard or a fake beard and so he was God the Father you didn’t send this picture to mom and dad no yeah they’re probably listening this podcast and very upset right now but to sacrilege but you didn’t need just one leg for that no yeah yeah later yes like that way so you needed no legs exactly technically I had it was a problem that I was walking I should have just been floating around right but I didn’t have the the technological know-how for that so yeah it was it was only sort of later that that I had any sort of amputee related one and it was the first time I did one it was after college and that was when I did a partially eaten gingerbread man and and it wasn’t even it was it was really kind of a lazy thing it wasn’t like I was like man what would be like a clever amputee costume I was it was like the last minute and I think it was from like Shrek you know yeah I was like my gumdrop buttons or whatever and and so I literally just bought a normal gingerbread man costume and just cut the leg off and I was like boom done this is my costume and that drastically increased the quality of that copy did you know did you have any indication that okay I’m surely I’m gonna put this online and did you know no because this was in 2011 and so it was this was like pre like kind of BuzzFeed you know the concept of like viral images was very new and in fact like I the only place I posted it was the now defunct site dailybooth you guys remember daily yeah yeah yes like that’s the only record I have of the picture is actually daily booth so it’s like super grainy it was on a web cam of course but yeah so I didn’t it didn’t occur to me that it was gonna be a popular thing online but but like I put it on dailybooth and it was like all sudden all these people were texting me you know like I love your costume it’s amazing and but it still wasn’t a theist it wasn’t a viral thing or anything but yeah I went to parties and most like the main reaction actually was not so much like that’s an amazing costume it was like where did you hide your leg this is an incredible illusion you’ve created and I have crutches like why do you think I own titanium one-piece crutches like that I bought for this costume right you’re a high roller yeah that’s this is this is how I go with my Halloween costume so yeah and so it wasn’t following up next year with no so it still didn’t occur to me like because again it wasn’t like a viral thing and it wasn’t uh okay you know yeah just never occurred to me like oh but it did eventually right so that yeah so the next year I just I was Angry Birds with my friend you know it was fine and then the year after that my girlfriend at the time now fiance suggested hey like you should be the leg lamp from a Christmas story oh well yeah and I was and and I looked online and some amputees had like done that before okay but they hadn’t done a like a real good job no offense if you’re one of them listening right now but I saw them I was like I think I can do way better and like really go all out so I got like shaved my leg got fishnet stockings got an actual lampshade and like lit it up from the inside with a battery pack so it was like a portable walking lampshade and yeah and and and that one when I made it I was like I bet people online more like this because this is done by then 2013 so like at that point you know images online we’re like a thing right and so yeah so basically a friend of a friend posted it on reddit and then it just it like blew up from there and then people went back and like somehow found my dailybooth oh this is just look look at this thing he did before like and then and that’s when it became like a thing so then the but then the bar started to raise what was after that yeah so then exactly so then then it was like clearly oh this is a thing you’ve got to do now people like think I do this every year and I have expectations and so yeah yeah so then I felt pressure and so and I thought well like the Halloween the the costume with the leg lamp was like so popular because it brought back childhood memories for people you know like Christmas story and all like fragile a and all you know all those things so I was like there’s no way anything will ever be like that but you know I’ll try you know see what I come up with and so the next year I this one just happened I just was that like a zoo once and I saw a flamingo and I was like you know that looks kind of like me if I’m doing a crutch handstand and it was just a weird thing it was just like I don’t know just because I give you know I do like funny speeches about having one leg a lot of my humor on YouTube is about amputee stuff like I’m just always looking at that stuff and and I it was funny because I told a lot of people to costume how did I’m I was like I think I’m gonna be a pink flamingo and everyone assumes of course cuz flamingos stand on one leg you know no idea just wait this is gonna blow your mind so yeah so I got like a pink spandex suit and very flattering oh yes it was you got you mean you didn’t already have one yeah I pulled out my peak spandex suit yes from the closet where I keep all of my onesie spandex uniforms and and yeah I you should say that my assistant Lisa who is a huge fan of you guys in your show helps me with these she’s very crafty and she like helps me build these things because it takes a lot like conceptual thinking of like how we’re gonna actually make this and then so and then I we got like a elf shoe which she painted like a flamingo head on and and then yeah I just do its I mean you’d have to it’s it’s weird and to describe in podcast it’s you have to see it right like to get it so I guess Google Josh Sundquist Halloween costume but you guys know I’ll come up the to trot trucks crutches are right leg right the flamingo and when you lean your head forward and go into a pants like a half handstand right so it’s like my head is the flamingo’s but and then my leg becomes like the neck and my my foot is like the actual the head and it has like these it’s very convincing very convinced yeah it’s pretty like and I can’t really like I can balance in like an actual handstand on my crutches but not in that specific position and it’s actually like off balance so it was like a flamingo in motion yeah it was like me and my girlfriend we just did like a bunch of shots you know with just like in burst mode and and just like wit kept and we had like one that was just like this is uncanny it looks so flamingo you know and we did it we even went to the zoo too because I just thought it would be amusing to like do it right beside the flamingos and it would be yes and but that was weird walking around the zoo in a pink flamingo or like a pink leotard has an upside-down flamingo yeah I’m walking on its head yeah so they’ve done one more since yeah yeah so then the flamingo is just huge yeah it was yeah so it’s just like every year’s like more and more pressure and like people like he wins Halloween again and and so yeah so then this year I did a foosball player and it was like particularly sort of meaningful to me and the reason I thought it was cool is because this year I had the opportunity to make the u.s. amputee soccer team right and which was cool because like before I lost my leg when I was a kid I played soccer and I hadn’t really like played it since I became an amputee and now there’s just like amputee soccer sport out there and like the US team is finally a good enough that we went to the World Cup this year so it was like a cool cool like personally meaningful thing to me to me like I’m gonna actually dress like as a semi soccer player in a foosball position and so yeah this one was actually really difficult to construct because we really wanted to have the illusion of me floating and right so and to look like because it’s easy to like do a Photoshop things but I wanted to be like what you see is the actual photo taken right so we like rented out an entire like indoor soccer arena because that has that look of a foosball you know thing has them like the walls the walls that sort of drop back and then we got like a ballet bar and and built around that like reflective material to look like a you know like the spinning bar or whatever right and then and did me up all and like all this like paint to make me look shiny and plastic and just like oh yeah that’s great yeah great that keeps getting raised yeah exactly so now it’s like you’ve got the thing on your foot that looks like the big yeah exactly right yeah then this we had just like the big box and so and I just sort of like sat and balanced there on that boat it’s funny when it because when I saw that I thought oh well you know this has been so popular now there’s there’s some sponsor that’s that’s paying for Josh to do is Halloween photo or did you just say I know I’m because it was so like over-the-top and produced or you know I’ve taken upon myself that I’m just going to make this happen every single year yeah I did well so I I sort of tried and failed semi failed at doing like a IndieGoGo okay so I put it up and it was like as people do when you do IndieGoGo and such a lot of people were like what like why why would we give you money like people on the internet just want my money because it’s awesome yeah so so a lot of people did give money towards it but I but like I honestly put it up thinking like people will think this is cool and fun like I’m happy to pay for it myself right so and I got some money but I paid for most of myself it was pretty expensive pretty expensive but like yeah because I hired like a real photographer we had like all the lights up and everything right um but to me it’s uh it’s a great investment because people love it and it’s it’s like it honestly is a part of like the business of what I do you know like I make my living mostly as a motivational speaker and a lot of people you know like when they contacted me to speak they’re like we love your Halloween costumes you know like the costumes sort of capture the message of what I’m gonna share on stage and so it’s like it’s really kind of the best possible advertising I could do is to like invest in a really great costume and we should save it those are at the top of your YouTube channel even yeah so if you go there to enjoy your content you can see them that’s the easy way just to see them all into a collage yeah they’re all that warrants yep take us back let’s go I would love to get your story from from the beginning which I’m sure you’ve told many times but I’d like to piece it all together so like as a child kind of you yeah so yeah like I said I was uh when I went out to Lex as a kid I was reeling to soccer and when I was nine as when I started having a lot of pain and it was actually this I guess sort of poignant in and that the like literally the same week that I was gonna try out for my first travel soccer team was the week that I had a biopsy where they found cancer because I’d been having a lot of pain and whatnot and so they had to open me up and it was yeah it was a really aggressive form of cancer at a 50% chance to live yeah so it was very serious I mean a nine year old yes I mean you remember getting that news just is the doctor talking to you is the doctor talking to your your parent yeah so my parents told me yeah you know there’s an interesting thing in kids around that age parents sort of make the call as to how much information they want to share with a child I was old enough that my parents chose to tell me everything and I’m glad they did but there it was it’s a kind of it’s it’s a weird thing because like you know they told me like my parents told me they’re you know it was almost like like a Santa Claus thing you know like oh but like don’t tell the other kids because like they were like you know not other kids at the hospital might not know how sick they are so like don’t tell them that they have cancer because they might not actually know you know and then they told you like your chances of survival they went there – yeah and and in that moment that was like good news to me because like as a nine-year-old the only thing I knew about cancer was my grandfather had died of it and so to me you know I didn’t it wasn’t even I wasn’t even cognizant that there could be ways to treat it or survival so like I immediately thought I’ve cancer I’m gonna die so actually it was in retrospect and sort of ironically out like good news that they’re like no actually the doctors of tolis your kind of cancer has a 50% chance of survival which of course is still very low so yeah so I started chemotherapy treatments I I had a tumor in my leg in my femur which is like the bone from your knee to your hip and after about three months the tumor was still the same size so something had to be sort of done surgically and there’s like a lot of different operations besides amputation that are possible like you can take out the bone and put it in a like a metal rod or a cadaver bone like all kinds of wild stuff but the amputation was just like by far the best chance of survival and it’s also if you if you try to do what’s called a limb salvage operation it’s the your leg is very fragile and so to me it was like I would you know as a athletically oriented child I was like well yeah okay so having one leg it’s gonna be harder to do stuff but I’m not gonna be fragile per se you know I can do like whatever I’m able to do physically whatever I can figure out how to do with your leg like the doctors not gonna be like no no you could break you know if you do that sport right so so yeah and so you you helped make that yeah yeah yeah it was me and my parents we met with like a lot of doctors got a lot of opinions met with like amputees yeah I mean obviously that was a huge decision but yeah I felt very much like it was a joint decision between my parents and I and I’m really grateful that you know that they involved me with that right because I could see a child who who wasn’t involved looking back later and being like my parents chose this for me you know this life right where as I look back and say like this is the life I chose yeah so yeah so I lost my leg I mean obviously that’s a pretty like traumatic thing and yeah I mean yeah what do you remember about that about the you know before the procedure yeah I guess probably the most sort of notable memories about that were yeah right right before you know I mean I was really sad like especially you know in the weeks leading up to it really sad like I cried myself to sleep this is loveable sad I remember you know sitting in the the operating or not the operating room sort of the waiting room you know where you you get prepped or wait or whatever before you go back for the operation and and and yeah I guess the best way I can describe it is you guys are old enough and probably so your listeners are old enough that you know you’ve you’ve you’ve had someone that you know died suddenly at some point and they’re sort of this like almost eerie feeling of disbelief like we were like no no like I just talked to him or her last week or whatever and that’s that’s how it felt like it was this idea like I’m gonna be put to sleep and then I’m gonna wake up and this leg is you know like it’s not gonna be there and yeah it was just was such a strange feeling and the doctor nurse came in and I hadn’t walked for three months because you know that my life was very fragile I had a brace on it I wasn’t supposed to put any weight on it but the doctor and a nurse came in and they had a wheelchair like to bring me back to the operating room and looking back I’m not sure exactly why I I made this decision but I guess I guess I realized well like what’s the worst thing that could happen like I could break my leg from walking and so I was like you know actually like I don’t want to use a wheelchair like I’m gonna walk because this is like this is my last chance to walk and so yeah so I walked back to the operating room and the next memory I had was was waking up and just having a horrible phantom limb pain and really yeah and and in phantom limb pain it’s just you know and of course they had told me about it ahead of time warned me but I mean it’s just such a strange thing like you can’t even a mat like you can’t be prepared for it like I woke up and and I first I felt like oh they didn’t even amputate my leg cuz I could feel and it was just like throbbing and pain and it was in this like really weird position like it was like sticking straight in the air and then like I opened my eyes and it’s like it’s not there yeah it’s it’s so phantom limb pain it’s just it’s so wild and I still think it’s like it’s really fascinating just like neurologically but for a while it was like pretty debilitating pain wise but I guess you know you sort of you’re your brain is hardwired to have what’s called proprioception which is like the sense of your body in space so you know you could lose any part of your body a finger a nose in the air or whatever and you’ll still feel it like in your brain and and you can have pain in it and that’s what what the phantom limb pain is so yeah so I went through that for a while but you know I felt like I went through a lot of the grieving beforehand and and afterwards I was you know I and I don’t want to like take credit for it myself I think I had like tremendously supportive parents and friends and family you know who would raise me well and had really like rallied behind me but I like I really bounce back I think a lot quicker than people were expecting and maybe then that you know then some people perhaps ever do you know with an amputation so yeah I mean after like 2 or 3 days after the amputation I was like running on my crutches like around the hospital like literally like running was it an expression of your support structure alone it was it also the type of person that you were was it an active decision that you remember making that I’m going to run around on these crutches and I’m you know what were the components of recovery for you you were to be accelerated like that yeah I think that’s an insightful question and you know I think it’s it’s it’s a little bit of all of that right it’s it’s having parent you know like great support structure it’s having like taking gymnastics as a child so I was like pretty agile and had really good balance really quickly and I think there was a decision element to I think you know at that point I still had another nine months of chemotherapy in front of me you know my life was still on the line so I think there was also an element of it of to me thinking like I don’t know how much longer my life is gonna be so like yes I have one leg but I’m gonna try and make the best of it whatever that means so there was still cancer in your body at that time it just yeah I mean that yeah the weird thing about you know having an amputation is you don’t it like yes that got rid of what’s known to be the cancer but you know maybe there’s like a really small amount of cancer like in your lungs or you know it’s metastasized somewhere else so you still go through the whole like the original protocol of chemotherapy which was a year so I was on it for for another nine months so like a year in total so yeah it was a lot chemotherapy about a hundred nights I spent in the hospital oh well no and it was three years before you were declared free and clear of cancer right that’s right yeah so three years because most cancer you are declared cured after five years but it just depends on the type of cancer mine is very aggressive and so if it hasn’t come back in three years that’s when they say you’re cured which is like just the best feeling ever you know that’s something that I look back on and think of you know those those times went in when you’re in remission in that period in between and you know you go in for tests every three months or every six months and it’s just like has the cancer come back right now and because if the cancer comes back it’s your chances of survival are very low so you know those were those were scary years listen what’s your sense of humor that we see now in all of your work something that was present then even from that young of an age or something that developed later yeah that’s a great question some of both you know I don’t I it wasn’t I it took it took many years I think to become as comfortable with being an amputee as I am now you know like I wore a prosthesis until halfway through college when I started high school I was home-schooled until high school and so when I started high school is very worried you know just if that people would even find out I was an amputee so I think there was a much greater sense of self-consciousness there but at the same time really early on I think humor was actually a way of sort of dealing with it uh yeah I mean like therefore you know yeah right after I got fitted with a prosthesis that yeah this is kind of that maybe the first the first window into like what he Murr could do and how it could help me cope I was in the hospital for a chemotherapy treatment and there was I was treated at a teaching hospital so a medical student was examining me and just doing like a physical taking my vitals and such and he was like taking my pulse and and and finally my mom was like Josh my parents called me Joshua of course my given name but she’s like yeah Joshua like has a prosthesis now and you are trying to take a pulse from it and you found this funny yeah exactly yeah and so it was like yeah and I which I thought it was just hilarious instead yeah yeah I mean and yes I mean that was probably yeah just a month or six weeks after my mutation and I think that looking back that was the first like really funny thing that happened I was like that’s really funny and I think after that I started looking more and more for like okay yeah like obviously you know I’m not like sometimes people will come up to me after a speech or write in the comments a video you’re there like man like your jokes about being an amputee or so like so funny like it makes me kind of want to be an amputee you know but they’ll always preface it with something like you know like don’t take this the wrong way all right yeah right where do you know like okay or like no offense yeah right no offense here but I’m like okay Wow yeah that is you totally got the wrong message like I do not like suggest being an amputee well that’s a good that’s your perspective is is so compelling that that’s the effect that it has on yeah I guess they some of people it’s interesting cuz you were nine when the surgery happened link you’ve got a nine-year-old son I’ve got a ten-year-old son so we’ve got like kids in that age range yeah and I’m thinking about like that happening and then making that adjustment wait just what what about socially mmm in those formative years you’re becoming a teenager and moving into high school like how did the fact that you’re an amputee at that point play into you know I interact with other kids yeah I know it was really really terrifying at first you know it’s it’s you know it’s weird now like 20 years later because it’s like obviously it’s it’s just a part of me it’s not a big deal anymore but yeah and and in that sense I think you know my parents played a really great role in you know a lot of times you hear people with with disabilities you know who who have psychologically adjusted well we’ll talk about how like you know my parents never treated me any differently you know they you know like that’s the key thing and I and I don’t think they quite mean that literally because I think you do have to treat someone according to their his or her own needs like of course you treat each of your kids a little differently not that you’re like showing favoritism to them but like each of your kids are individual yeah they have their own personality their problems their own hopes etc so you know I think that my parents you know there were times you know really early on yet where I was I was pretty nervous too like for example like to go to go to like the swimming pool you know and they found like a friend of ours who but I wanted to like swim I wanted to try it you know and so they found like a friend of ours who like how to pool at their house so I didn’t have to go like a public pool and you know I had gone to like summer camp before I lost my leg but I was really scared to go back and and so they like basically like bribed me and and I was in retrospect a very easily bribed considering like how scared I was of summer camp but they were like if you go to summer camp we will give you 25 dollars that you can spend at the snack shop at can’t oh yeah and I was like twenty-five dollars of ice cream that is amazing so game-changer yeah yeah yeah and did it work out yeah and it was awesome but it but you know it was like it was like stuff like that like otherwise without that ice cream like there was no like it seems so so worth it it seems so silly but like that really was like a deciding factor of me going and I’m so glad I did you know because then it was like that was when I started to get exposure to other people because of course I was in a unique situation being homeschooled like I wasn’t I wasn’t immediately thrust into an environment with like hundreds of kids at once I had like a social network but my social network was like my church and my homeschool group which was like a pretty small group and a very close-knit group and so in that sense I was I was lucky to have friends who were I think very mature and came from like homes where parents were like giving them like sort of like you know don’t you know like josh is still like a normal person like treat him as such the other thing I’m sure there are many milestones but how did you get to become a motivational speaker yeah so I started giving the first time I was like giving talks was right around that time when I was like nine ten years old really yeah doing at that time not like what I do now but they were like raising speeches from my hospital so you know I was like sort of like the poster child to be like for the donors to be like look the hospital is helping me survive you should give my name here’s a funny story about a resident that you know who thought I had you know who tried to take a pulse from my leg which in retrospect is like the worst possible story yes your hospital is like about practice suit waiting to happen give it money but yeah so that was the first time I sort of in front of audiences and you know started to grow comfortable with that and then when I was 15 years old and by that time in in a public school a motivational speaker came to my high school and I just like saw you know his speech and just thought like this is the coolest thing ever and ironically you know I I was really I was really interested in doing it but I was really afraid because I was like oh you know I think it’d be a motivational speaker you have to have like a really interesting life story and I don’t have one which is okay yeah I know it’s like looking back it’s like what but like at the time it’s just like it just didn’t occur to me that that my life was that interesting and so my early speeches were terrible because number one they were like super like didactic and just it was like I listen to other motivational speakers and tried to be like Tony Robbins you know so I’d get up and be like you must have goals and like I’m so awesome and you should be like me and and they were they were just so bad and and nobody paid attention and then gradually over time I realized the time that people were paying attention was in you know the short moments when I might have an anecdote about myself or what had happened to my leg or a cancer or whatever and then gradually then I realized oh wait I actually do have a story and it’s a story that people are really interested in and that people naturally you naturally create a metaphor right like most audiences are not composed of amputees but everybody has that thing for them you know whether it’s whether it’s something physically obvious or something you know from their background or their emotional state or a developmental disability everybody has you know that thing that they’re sort of insecure about that name that they are they’re dealing with and so to hear a story hopefully from someone who’s like who’s been through something like that and has come out relatively well on the other side was and is a story that that seems to help people and and that’s why I have the privilege of having that job right and you’ve done quite a bit of it and you know I think my suspicion is that when you do motivational speaking that you probably get called in to lots of different environments where you find yourself I’m speaking to like this convention for whatever like yeah didn’t they get weird yeah what are some of the weird places that you found yourself speaking yeah no yeah I would say maybe interesting which it would be the positive spin I put on it but yeah but you’re right it’s it’s really interesting that just just because I you know some types of speakers might be an expert on something like leadership or teamwork or whatever but because I’m just sort of like a life story speaker you know I talk about my life story and I apply sort of lessons about overcoming adversity and try to relate to that to what individuals in that particular audience might be going through because that’s a pretty universal message I have the privilege of speaking to a really wide range of groups so yeah I mean like I spoke to a group of cowboys like two months ago like literally callable like they are literally Cowboys in Wyoming or something North Dakota yeah I mean I was the like the only person I felt uncomfortable because I wasn’t wearing a cowboy hat and did not have cowboy boots like that was the first time in my life would’ve been like wow I’m I feel weird because I’m the only one without the cowboy you addressed that yeah yeah yeah I like to acknowledge like those sorts of things yeah and they were good they had a good sense of humor about it but you know like one of the weirdest ones and I didn’t actually end up speaking to them but I was really hoping I would because I thought this would be just hilarious it was like a convention of the what would you call it like the tanning booth industry association and I was just like okay like I’m I’ll definitely speak to you guys and like that’s cool but like I mean you guys have a thing that causes the disease yet I had like it just doesn’t seem like yeah yeah yeah it just seems like you find it yeah like I I mean you know within moderation ten I’m not judging people who go to tanning beds it’s fine I just like if I was playing that convention I wouldn’t be like let’s get that guy like if you know if I was like right if we were like a smoking convention or whatever or like you know we sold we’re philip morris like we wouldn’t be like let’s find a guy who’s overcome lung cancer yeah right you know it’s like it seems like I’m not the person that you want so yeah but it’s uh it’s yeah it’s really interesting just sort of like the the wide variety of groups I get to speak to at what point did YouTube start to enter equation and I’m curious what how does that fit into the puzzle of what you’re doing how do you view your YouTube presence my first real like YouTube video was when I was actually here in LA at USC I was in grad school and yeah I had no idea what a vlog was and I I just I really didn’t have I was I was in grad school and you know it’s very different being grad school you don’t necessarily like make friends or have a social experience or maybe actually that’s problems for what for communications okay makes sense yeah I guess I don’t know nobody is ever like for a speech ever been like but do you have a degree in communication so like pretty sure that was a waste of money but whatever it was fine so uh yeah I was I and I I just had like this I had had this like really wild experience which is actually it’s in this is not a a plug but I’m gonna go ahead and make it a plug I could apply it’s in my new book we should hang out sometime but it to it so yeah well I because the book is about I had never had a girlfriend when I was like I was like 25 years old and I tried to date grows a lot and and I had these sort of like one or two date relationships and people are always like Josh I mean you’ve seen you’re not like too creepy and we assume you’re not like a serial killer or anything like why have you never had a girlfriend and I was like I really no I have theories but I don’t know so I went back in like investigated by which I mean I found like all the girls going like starting in middle school that I tried to date and I would like have coffee with them or even physically found them yeah and had a physical face-to-face conversation face-to-face you had an auditory conversation words yeah what this is quite a quest yeah it was a great idea for a book yeah well and and I will I’m proud to say that I didn’t do it like for Ibaka yeah it was it wasn’t like it was and maybe that’s just even more weird that I was just like here’s here’s a personal development project I’d like to do it was only like later that I was I was kind of like you know this this is this could be a book this is kind of funny now now actually now that I have a girlfriend and there’s a happy ending as okay once I determined that so uh yeah so I had this experience where there was a scroll that was trying to date and she was actually a contestant in Miss America and and you’re on the right track so far yeah so I want to be clear like she was Miss North Dakota right yeah don’t you know that why’d we do research for this yeah that’s impressive yeah that’s the one well and because in you were you just spoke to some cowboys in North Dakota in North Dakota quite a bit I – yeah I didn’t think there were any humans there yeah you’ve been there at least twice so it’s I’ve spoken in North Dakota a weirdly large amount I actually like calculate at once like the I like North Dakota’s population is shockingly small 600,000 people in the whole state and there was a time when I had spoken there so often that I had spoken to like a multi multiple percentage points of the entire state it was like three to four percent of the state population I had spoken to so that’s how I met Miss North Dakota and and so yeah we were we were sort of talking and this is was at USC and so she was going to be at mystical or she was gonna be a Miss America which was in Vegas and so I got like a ticket through some finagling to like this like act I gala where I knew she was gonna be and I was gonna like surprise her and stuff and you were you had not dated at this point or I had you she and I what was your status I would say we were talking well you know we both like talked on the phone but yeah I mean yeah there had been no there have been no like physical conversations to use your turn okay I’ll put it that way yeah so but you’re gonna surprise her yeah I was just good yeah I was gonna surprise her you know I’d seen somebody like rom-coms or I’d seen I will say enough rom-coms to know that a grand romantic gesture like this is you know always is gonna go well yeah this couldn’t fail like there’s no way it could fail and of course it failed horribly like I mean like it failed like so horribly was just like anticlimactically weird like I like I was like you know she was like kind of like walking by me and I was like like I guess I and I didn’t really have anything your mouth your eyes got big yeah I just shook yeah really yeah that’s pretty much have I I guess I just imagined she was gonna be like oh like you’re here we’re in love let’s date like I’m your girlfriend now I don’t really know what I thought that didn’t happen what really happened was she was like but you didn’t tell me you were gonna be here and I was like it’s a surprise yeah yeah that was yeah it’s a surprise yes exactly that was like sort of the point and and then she was like okay like I have to go like who’s she what she did have to like go walk in this procession or something and that was the whole conversation and we didn’t talk was this before the ceremony a pageant or yeah this is the night before before yeah and so there was no follow-up conversation I guess no nothing not for like four months yeah that was just the end because I was I was like well maybe she’ll text maybe she’ll call no nothing so yeah so that was one of the ones for the book when years later I wanted to be like so like remember that time when I showed up to your pageant so that was really interesting but this is we’re on like so many levels deeper of stories here let’s finish that one out so yeah on your quest in the book walk us through I’m seeking her out yeah you you met up with her again yeah and and we actually had like a face-to-face conversation how did you and I was giving a speech in North Dakota obviously when you were passing of course my my stomping grounds why where I often show up to give speeches and you put the tux back on yeah yeah no I was speaking at a bank you know like to some employees at a bank and it was like the town she was in like in a vault like I mean I pictured behind the teller window to a bank I mean it was like a gathering of employees of the bay was it like watching Bank customers yeah I have given some weird speeches like that and I’ve learned to be like I ask a lot of questions now before I agree to show up to make sure I’m not gonna be in that like one time I spoke to it what I thought was gonna be a group of army vets who had lost legs or arms and I was like this is great like I’d love to like her for these guys and it turns out I was actually just speaking at a cafeteria in a hotel near an Army Hospital – whoo – anyone who happened to be in the cafeteria I kid you not no advertising it was just people who were just happened to be getting food and I would just they were just yeah just go just like stand in the middle room start talking now I I was like are you serious oh yeah that’s a whole no destroy what happened there it was just it was horrible like it was so bad like it paid no I was volunteering like I thought I was helping army vets was it in North Dakota oh yeah that speech was so bad it was yeah they had like there was a TV on they wouldn’t turn the TV off it’s like oh my gosh I mean that was that was probably the worst speech ever it fortunately has never gotten better worse than that to it now I’m very careful to ask why I like it so this is an event like that people are going to unpermitted yes like they know I’m gonna be there okay so Miss North Dakota you you triangulated where she was gonna be and yes intersected with you giving a talk yeah I’d like to like make it sound creepy than that like I wasn’t like triangulating herself oh and be like okay I see her coordinates I this is where she is I will show up there I contacted her and invited her to come to my speech okay and we’re like yeah that’s like you know get food afterwards and and and yeah so I and by this time yeah I I was sort of more yeah well it was an interesting conversation because I we talked and and she was kind of like I’m loving this by the way because she was uh yes she we like obviously remembered the situation you know the me showing up and and was really impressed that I was there because the the gala that I was attending was supposed to be two thousand dollars a plate I got a ticket because I gave a free speech in into a cafeteria someone yeah it was weird but totally worth it and so first she was just so she’d like so which to me made it even crazier like she was like she thought I had spent $2,000 to see her was like wait why you didn’t text me like what what happened right and so cuz I at the time I thought well maybe she has a boyfriend that just entered the picture or something like that but uh yeah so it was basically like a really interesting lesson for me and sort of empathy and like looking at something from another person’s perspective because for her it’s like the biggest moment of her life right you know she’s been preparing this literally for this moment for years and she’s very focused on the competition and this guy like just shows up and she’s very like befuddled and confused and just like literally doesn’t know what to say and then the competition happens and she didn’t like do as well as she wanted and then so she was like you like a little like an embarrassed you know like that maybe felt like she’d kind of like lat because you know she added the friends and family there and she felt like she kind of like lied everyone down a little bit and and and and so it was you know that’s where she was coming from and I was coming from just sort of a place of insecurity where I was like oh if she didn’t like text me immediately afterward she must not like me I’m never gonna talk to her again yeah you know and and and she was like yeah but I was like really disappointed you know you didn’t contact me afterwards because like I was so into you and like what like wait hold on like you really like you know so so then I was like what comes crystal clear that you really did blow it yeah that it was crystal clear speaking of crystal it was Sunnah and I was beginning to get thoughts in this conversation like well maybe know that we’ve come figured this out never yeah but it just so happens that approximately six weeks before this particular dinner she got engaged and had a diamond ring so that’s what what the book is about but yeah so each so each chapter is a different or a different girl yeah so it’s a there’s like six I actually tracked down 12 girls and six of them are in the book some of them were like just not interesting enough for the book or there wasn’t like a it wasn’t I don’t know just not you can’t fit everything there was like more stories and you know your editor always wants to cut stuff out so there’s a cool yeah b-side girl says would you call that one so just to go back for a second we took the detour from you getting into YouTube right from so you were at USC yes so yeah so I so I had this experience I’ll give you the abbreviated version of the story while I was in when I was getting ready or you know I was at the at the black-tie gala and I don’t like you guys have probably have you ever won about like a real bowtie before not a real bow tie I’m afraid of that mmm you know I have won it ties around yeah yeah like and you have to tie I didn’t dye it okay yeah so this feel like that would be a good him when he my goodness oh dust trying to do this like as a challenge because it’s freaking impossible okay they’re always crooked and like uneven or lopsided so I was in the men’s room you know trying to like it all spiffed before my like big grand gesture when she saw me and and I was you know I’m it’s like worried about my boat I am but it’s like it’s so hard to tie right I’m just like I can’t get it I was really frustrated yeah and I was like man you know the next time I wear a real or the next time I wear a bow I’m gonna do like a like a clip-on you know like what you wear to prom it’s like pre-tied because I was like a real bowtie is just not worth it like that was the phrase in my mind I was like this is not worth it and and this this guy walked in and just part of like having one leg is that people strangers for some reason feel a certain subset of the population feels just a just like they have the right to like say anything they want you to inquire about your medical history or or or they feel even just a need to say something about how you have a disability okay so this guy who walks in and he’s like because I was like kind of balancing at the mirror like working my bow tie he’s like oh it looks like you do pretty well with that but but I was so focused on my bow to those two hands you have yeah but I was like I was so focused on my bowtie and like I don’t you know I talk a lot about hugging one leg in my speeches and videos and stuff but I don’t like necessarily actively think all the time like I’m an amputee this is my perspective so like I wasn’t really thinking like I thought he meant he my bowtie so I was like oh thank you like you know I appreciate that and and and this is like the totally true story so we uh we then we go over like to the urinals I get like I guess I only like gave up sore or came to a satisfactory point and my bow tying and we’re so we’re both standing at the urinals kind of near by each other and I was like uh yeah you know I’m still thinking about my bow tie and he’s like still thinking presumably about my life situation and I was like I’ll tell you though it’s actually pretty difficult got the bow tie whoa we are peeing and the dude is like yeah like it looks like it would be pretty difficult and then I said I kid you not I was like in fact tonight I’ve been feeling like it’s just not even worth [Laughter] his pee stream stopped yeah exactly yeah he’s like you know making icon number one rule of social interaction new urinals yeah yeah he’s like he’s like son it’s always worth it and I was like I was really in the bowtie yeah I was like I didn’t think I was that good at tiny but maybe I’m better than I thought and like and so it literally didn’t hit me till like weeks later I’m sitting in my dorm room at USC and I was like oh like that’s why he was so like dramatic and like worried for me thought like I was talking about my life not being worth it and and so I’m sitting in my like one room you know my single at USC and I was just like I have to tell someone about this story and I had a webcam and I was like maybe I could just like record this into the webcam and put it on the Internet and I did and that was my first vlog and were you hoping that that guy would see it yeah I mean dude at the urinal this I assume that yeah he’s like probably out there like you know having prayer vigils you know like I met this this depressed one-legged man was destiny he’s open right up to his ropes yeah pouring his heart out as he peed yeah so that was how I started on YouTube it I didn’t that was early on it was like yeah yeah that was a long time ago that was o8 and I had a couple videos on my channel that were just like demos of me speaking okay and I didn’t really make any videos that didn’t you know I got like I really didn’t even know what a vlog was I didn’t know that I had made a vlog and it wasn’t until 2010 when my first book came out just don’t fall that to promote that I made a video called the amputee wrap and and then that video did really really well and that’s and and you know and people were like it was it was it was kind of like people were like way more excited about that than the book and and I was like I worked for years on this book and two weeks on the video you should read the book but but I saw then just like then I started like looking at youtubers and like seeing guys like you guys and like finding out like oh there’s this whole world out there of YouTube and like what would happen I and I looked like scroll back and was like oh my gosh this like urinal story I told years ago has thousands of views now like I could keep doing that and so yeah that’s like I just kept making vlogs after that so what how does your YouTube channel fit and what your into your puzzle at this point yeah that’s a really good question and one that I spend a lot of time thinking about it is yeah does it is it just to drive business to speaking or does it have life in a business of its own you’re trying to there’s a tension there I guess yeah I think of YouTube mostly as a really intense hobby like I don’t may you know like I don’t have enough subscribers that I could make a living off of it or anything like that so so mostly mostly from me it’s just I really like making videos and telling stories into a camera and and it’s really fun that said it is a component like if if I were to explain my career to people I would say I give speeches I give motivational speeches I write books and I make youtube videos and I think there is a really nice symbiosis to all of those sure most of my income comes from speaking but a lot of the speaking requests come because people saw a YouTube video or because they read a book and the book sales come because people saw me speak or they saw a YouTube video and and and so it you know it all works you know and it’s like it all kind of it all kind of works together I guess in that sense well would it be a spoiler alert to ask you know what is what’s the ultimate takeaway from from the book mmm-hmm no yes I mean would read the book for the take home no I mean I think I mean obviously I’m engaged so the big spoiler of course is like watch it in the end of the book I was just dating my girlfriend so okay you wouldn’t know that from reading that that we are engaged now but yeah I know I think you know with each girl I learned a little bit something different so you know there was there was sort of like one you know one lesson was about maybe like about like sort of empathy like what we talked about with the Miss America contestant or one lesson might be about you know not always like assuming sort of like the worst you know not assuming like because she said this oh she must hate me like maybe there’s another reasonable explanation but the overall thing that I think I took where was this that I went into it the investigation assuming that I had never had a girlfriend because there was something wrong with me and what I realized was actually there had just been a lot of just kind of unlucky situations and if there was anything wrong with me it was that assumption it was thinking that there was something wrong with me in other words it was like having that insecurity that doubt that like thinking oh there’s there’s something like inadequate about me right because you know like that’s like that’s like the the least attractive thing in a person right but the most attractive person by contrast is someone who’s like who is confident in who they are like flaws and all they’re like this is who I am I accept myself as who I am and I think like that’s what makes you a tremendously attractive person to someone that you might be interested in dating right and how did your fiance feel about all the stories about all the ladies yeah she I definitely like talked to her a lot about it you know before before it became a book just to like make sure she was gonna be cool with it and I think she was really pleased to be the happy ending of the book like I think like an early please that you were such an idiot all along yeah yeah yeah I think yeah I think she’s like yeah is kind enough to think that she’s very lucky that the other girls didn’t discover me or something but but yeah you know I think I think she loves and and rightly so and I’m glad that she does you know being that that she’s like the person at the end who sort of like it’s like I finally found someone and it’s her right what stands out as one of the best responses you’ve gotten I’m sure there’s a lot of people who come up and want to talk to you mm-hmm whenever you speak and what stands out as one of the stupidest things like you talk about the people who just have to say something and then I’ll see if I can top both okay so as far as like after giving a speech yeah there’s gotta be anything you’ve done in public I imagine the rewarding moment of someone wanting to you’ve opened up and inspired yeah it’s someone they want to give back someone said imagine there’s been a lot of people saying great things to you oh yeah so I mean yeah you know so many amazing things and that’s certainly like one of the coolest and most rewarding parts of the job you know is being able to do something that I really enjoy like performing and sharing my story and that I get to do it professionally and that’s something that helps people yeah so I mean so many things I you know I think I guess probably the most poignant example would be a a girl came up to me and one of my early speeches that was at when I was not really even a good speaker came up to me like gave me a like a suicide prevention hotline card and was like you know like thanks to you like I feel like I don’t need this anymore and that meant a lot to me and so as far as sort of the flip side man yeah I’ve really heard it all I you know it’s like people people after you give a speech because they’ve just heard you and and you guys probably relate to this as youtubers like you know when you meet someone and they’re kind of like wait what why aren’t you doing a YouTube video for me right now like if you ask them a question or if there’s like a pause they’re like hold what what why are you not why are you not where the jump cuts like you know yeah and so you know people kind of come to you after the speech and they’re just kinda like where’s where’s my motivational speech like why why are you not speaking why do you not can’t it why are you not telling long stories with jokes right now yeah and that’s that’s weird but yeah people will will relate yeah it’s like I don’t I hate to like belittle people’s problems you know but they’ll be like I understand what it’s like to have one leg because and then and then just say you know like how are they gonna go with this but but you know and sometimes people you know have like a really serious problem but but it you know like it’ll be like a again like I had to be like trivial but it’ll be like something you know just something really like you know because yeah oftentimes me were like because like I sprained my ankle last year and I was on crutches for two weeks so like I totally get like what you’ve gone through I’m like oh cool look I’m glad I’m sure you’re always gracious yeah I try to be nice I’m like I cool like I’m not trying yeah it’s a little different Oh what I’m glad that it spoke to you yeah I don’t know if I want a I don’t know if I wanna so body top that well I mean don’t you don’t have to top it but but I share your what what are what are some meaningful and really strange things people said to you oh no I was gonna try to be one of those people and ask it’s gonna be like story time which they know where you’re going with that if I could ask something even stupid oh yeah people of that oh man oh if you want talk about stupid questions Wow like I mean just in trance what I mean just pure questions yes how about this one what what did they do with the leg after they get rid of it yeah I don’t think that’s a stupid question and that’s something that I would be curious about I mean well I mean I kind of know they like they like study it too like because you know just for like sort of case history information to know oh like how did because it’s a rare form of cancer right so it’s like they want to know like how much did it spread into the muscle and they learn like it’s bad a lot of big mistake say hey do you want a one last look or is that usually when it’s on you that’s the last look for you personally yeah no I didn’t have anything like that I’ve heard of amputees like keeping their like fingernails or toenails I didn’t like ask for that kind of macabre yeah it seemed a little weird to me and I feel like eventually you you would inevitably come to some ceremony where you’re like I’m going to like throw these into the ocean because I’ve moved on you know so so yeah yeah if you wanted to take the leg they wouldn’t have let you do it probably I should hope not Dennis won’t let you take a tooth yeah yeah you should hope that they would not allow you to walk out with an actual limb but yeah I’ll give you some stupid questions that people have asked me and these are the really stupid questions are typically not after a speech and I think the reason is because I make fun of in my speeches a lot of times I talk about stupid questions that people ask that no people are a little like I don’t want to learn his in the next speech so the the stupid questions are inevitably just people who walk up to me on the side so or just you know casual conversations so maybe my all-time list would be I was talking to this girl about my artificial leg which I was wearing I still wore like this was in high school we’re talking about how it worked and you know everybody has questions about artificial legs and and she was like oh so is the foot fake too really yeah really like totally serious I like I don’t know like I just don’t even know how like what the like and I was like oh you know it’s funny you ask like the doctors actually took my real bullet and attached it on the end of my artificial leg but fake – yeah oh my yeah like I don’t even know like how could she imagine that that was yeah we there’s like a Frankenstein system she doesn’t understand blood supply yeah it’s like yeah we there’s blood running through the fake leg to nourish the like yeah I mean oh wow yeah so that happened I had a guy pretty recently maybe a year ago now I live just outside Washington DC and he was in my neighborhood I was walking on the sidewalk and I you know I was on my crotches no no prosthesis and he like taps me on the shoulder of course because I have one like he so he needs to talk to me about it and just his opening line he’s like so how come you don’t have a prostate how could you tell here’s the other hand to you did you know this information and then I figured out like like what he meant at Beau’s like me that is not the kind of cancer that I had actually it was bone cancer yeah and just just in terms of sheer stupidity on my third date with Ashley so this was like you know pretty new relationship and we’re at don’t throw your fiance under the bus oh no this is not a question she asked okay guy though she has s what’s about I was gonna save you from that one oh they know she’s asked some pretty for some pretty good questions pretty good questions ready put it pretty good yeah we’ll put it that way person yeah no no she was just she was she was there to witness it I’m just I’m trying to raise the stakes of the story because it’s like we’re nervous one initial date and so we were eating dessert it was sort of like a dessert bar you know and so so she was sitting beside me on one side and there was this guy sitting beside me another side like you know never really wants to talk about one leg and all this situation like this is like a grown man I just want to be very clear I don’t think he was like intoxicated or anything and he was like you know he was like so like how long is it gonna take before you know and I was like no no I don’t know actually like what no what do you ask me you’re a starfish and yes and he was like I kid you not he’s like how long is it gonna take for your leg to grow back and I was like are you serious right now like yeah exactly like do you think do I look like a starfish what do I look like a lizard like I can just spontaneously regrow appendages like it was just how how does someone get to adulthood right at like oh yeah just wanna world what what in his life experience had like indicated to him maybe he had he maybe he had one grow back that that was like you take you I don’t I took five years right but yeah but no the hilarious thing was I mean cuz I think he would genuinely with sincere Syrah and this is this is why I believe that because after that he got a lot more serious and he was like oh man and he’s like can I buy you a drink yes thank you this is a great solution I can turn to alcohol yep to like help me feel better about how my leg is not gonna grow back and buy your drinks huh yeah I’ll buy you a drink is that leg ain’t coming back you should have just said we’ll just grab and pull right here and there probably well I don’t know we didn’t even get into it but people can read your first book just don’t fall we will you were a skier that’s right yeah for a long time there’s quite a lot we could talk to you forever yeah that’s my story we can throw people to your books you know more stories about the the encounters of the ladies and we should hang out sometime in more stories about your life and your background and just don’t fall and you know a lot of stories on your youtube channel which people can check out too yeah we truly appreciate being able to hang out and get to know you and thanks for allowing us to ask all the questions that we asked some of those may rank up there no those are awesome questions that no it’s it’s an honor to be here and so fun hanging out with you guys [Music] and there you have it our year biscuit with Josh Sundquist let him know what you think by tweeting at him his Twitter handle is Josh Sundquist there’s a D in there yeah I always make sure to say the d qu ist Sundquist it’s not Sundquist like sun-kissed it’s Sundquist hashtag ear biscuits and also make sure that you watch our song biscuit mm-hmm with Josh and and check out his in his book we should hang out sometime dot-com that’s the way it’s done these days you write a book and then you name a website that’s the same thing as the blog where you can get it we should hang out sometime calm maybe we should write a book maybe we should do the same thing is such a good idea we could get his permission first we go track down our ex-girlfriends well the interesting thing is a few of them are the same girl yes a couple of chapters it would be the crossover chapters is what we would call those Leslie and amber but the thing is I I think we know what went wrong with with Leslie that led to each of our breakup so we didn’t talk to her you know I don’t need to write a book about that yeah I just didn’t I didn’t know how to speak to her yeah and great I was afraid of her with amber I don’t know I think with you probably ended the same way you didn’t know how to manage a relationship I think I had a real relationship there could be a chapter there with amber yeah I’ll 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