[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m link and I’m Rhett joining us today at the round table of dim lighting is our friend and OG youtuber the one and only Kassem G Kassim started his channel which currently says that 2.6 million subscribers and 400 million views way back in 2006 he’s one of the cofounders of the now Disney owned maker studios and he’s honed his signature sharp sarcastic comedic tone via his popular series California on now you’ve probably seen it where you can have hilarious moments from impromptu conversations on the streets of Venice Beach and elsewhere including various conventions first of all you want to do this shirts on or off you always have the option tell me about your personal life are you single taken no I don’t care about in New York the nice guy you have to be because you’re not attractive enough to be a bad guy just a regular man I’m just a regular guy with no job you’re not related to Carmen Sandiego in any way nobody’s in San Diego that I know you want to kiss my head what year did we sign up you said can you say that again but just even more stupid do you get naked at any point in this biscuit we talked with Kasim about his participation in the grueling desert race the Baja 1000 he’s moving to the US is a little kid and trying to fit in how he recently connected with his middle-eastern roots and his candid thoughts on his legendary youtube series including California on going deep and asked Kasim we also talked about what he’s been up to lately not a lot of stuff coming out on his YouTube channel until very recently his latest project about Bigfoot yeah it’s a half hour special on his YouTube channel we’ve watched it since having the conversation I highly recommend it you should check it out on his channel it’s called California on sasquatch a not Finding Bigfoot special so we think you guys will enjoy our conversation with Cassim but first we want to mention our sponsor EF College Break they make travel easy affordable and even 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biscuit I thought for my money there was nothing better than the the micro built series you guys did I don’t know if that’s what you call it that way yeah those guys aren’t we don’t want to talk about but I thought those for my money on the internet were as good of a of just content entertainment as you could watch and I was in France for some fancy thing doing like one of those you guys go to those upfront things where you have to talk about your stuff yeah we went to one we’ve been to one in France okay yeah the one maybe you were at or the year before but they asked me to come up to the stage and talk about like just YouTube videos that I liked okay and I you know I had some like sketchy and yeah they’re all my own and then the last one was and I’m specifically save it for last because it always gets the most last was the red house furniture thing and I was just like I think these guys do the best job of creating something and at the same time it gives back to a local business and it’s like not harmful pranky stuff mmm it’s just right it’s just really good and I was always bummed to that there wasn’t more well I appreciate that you know and I’ll go ahead and jump into this I think that jump into it like you um it means a lot coming from you because we’ve always respected you as a comedian there’s there’s lots of people on YouTube who might call themselves comedians but they’re the people just came up as youtubers who know I hear what you’re saying I mean but I’m just like I don’t find it funny and honestly I when it comes to what’s the funniest thing we’ve ever done I would easily put our local commercials at the top of the list and red house up there because I don’t I don’t know exactly why maybe it’s because it’s it’s separated from us so I can appreciate it whereas I’m very self-conscious of the stuff we try to do and plus the stuff we do is it’s for a wider audience and for something to really resonate with a comedian that you respect it has to be something that’s very specific yeah mm-hmm so you know I appreciate that I think there’s kind of this chip on our shoulder that we we you know what do what do the comedian’s that we respect of what we do because a lot of it is that is up I think really big issue for just youtubers or people that make online content yeah and and there’s that constant struggle of validation like I want somebody who’s not a youtuber to like it or somebody who’s like you know a guy was in movies ten years ago to like you know just you you feel like you need that outside validation when you know you got there because of the YouTube community well if you want to be a comedian you want the respect of comedians not just commenters right I’ve struggled that persona in a year I mean it’s like now I think I’m a little older than when we all started right then we’re a little bit more mature about it but there was always that is this funny just because like it’s it’s just like I think a thirteen-year-old might think it’s funny or is it funny because I think it’s yeah because it doesn’t necessarily translate that what is actually funny as what rises to the top off yeah YouTube I mean when we think about what what we’re doing I mean the thing that makes us the most amused is definitely the local commercials but we don’t do them anymore I know it’s like a you have to explain to me why because I don’t really know why because they like they had to work in spite of us like people had to believe that they were real and the more we associated them with us the worse they would do because people want to believe that Chuck testa made his own commercial right that the guys at red house big head and 10-gauge conceptualized that commercial well the commercial always has to go has to basically break before they find out that we’re behind it yeah but to me that’s what I like like I like you guys you’re being you’re like thing and then you still use the people that are I mean the red house one is like it’s not like you guys are in there saying all those things black and white you know them do everything like force when people find out that we’re behind it so like now when we if we take a little commercial and put it on like the rhett and Link channel yeah then it’s immediately the people who are there waiting for the next music video or you know whatever we haven’t done a lot on that channel a while but when that happens again they’re not expecting another local commercial they’re like what is what is this yeah you know and so I mean it doesn’t guys got to make more videos yeah the way we are okay you guys slack so that’s you know that’s the that’s the challenge it’s like how much do you listen to yeah I it’s the same things for you I mean yeah I listen to just myself it seems no no no I’m look at ask Qasim the show that you know we you know once once you went full body on green-screen yeah we were like that no we were like this no and this is it this is my favorite thing I love that show and watch the evolution of that show of like starting as a as a blog that a lot of people were doing at the time right then all of a sudden oh no he’s on a green screen no he’s he’s in a cowboy shot on the green screen – yeah oh you know if you would just back up just a little bit I know I think if if you would have told me you know cuz it’s been I don’t know three to three years since I’ve we made the last episode of that show and for anyone that doesn’t know it’s a show it was just like you know how youtubers have the I’m gonna respond to comments show you know everyone has their own version of that and I decided to do my version of it and it started like you said just in my bedroom and just putting but it became making fun of that genre totally and then it became I know I’m cutting you off but in my mind it became you’re just like f that genre I’m just gonna this is how I’m gonna be funny and I’m just gonna make I’m not along even making fun of that this is just crazy it’s just weird but it had here in flavor which which took some time to get it took you know until maybe episode it was specifically and add a flavor and it was at the time you know I didn’t really like I thought it was alright but when it when we stopped doing it and now with all the messages we got it was like more messages and I got then like any other type of series or anything that I did people were just like hey you took something away that I look forward to all the time and it was unique and it was this and my only thing is like now I I totally get I have a lot of nostalgia even though it’s very recent for the show and like sometimes I’ll go back and watch the last episode because it’s kind of like there’s an intro touching moment in the end where we’re all just kind of like hugging it out and it was good it’s like Breaking Bad they just we we did it for a little bit it was a thing that was gone we took it away yeah you were here on top but it’s just funny and better but based on the performance of it you don’t have as much incentive to go back to that as California on or I would love to do and we talked about trying to work it into some sort of podcasts I’ve been toying around with a lot of things but a podcast was something I’ve wanted to do early early early before podcast took off and the ask Assam thing kind of happened and then it ended I was like well it’d be cool that turning it take it and evolve it into something else but it really hinged on my animator who was a great animator he did all the you know animated moving heads and although for Miss John he’s the guy know this is a guy named Dan Fletcher who’s super great he turned that stuff or we shoot it on a Monday morning and he would have a cut ready by like Tuesday night and he would it would go out Wednesday mornings crazy so it was like once once he realized how much work it was and he started getting other job offers he just got a another job getting paid somewhere else which more than what we were paying him and I was like I can’t afford to pay more you know we can’t afford to pay more and I was kind of like waffling on the whole idea anyway so it’s like all right we’ll just we’ll just call it here but we’re gonna I do still feel like I’m missing a whole you know piece of engagement because I do like even though the comments if they were you know like mean or funny or whatever they were I enjoyed the engagement being able to to do that I don’t like to be this kind of like transient youtuber who just goes away and comes back every once in a while that was cool cuz it kept me there weekly and that’s why I thought of like a podcast or something or some sort of evolve as cast and is still interesting to me but but I felt like that that that ask Kassim was kind of the evidence that you kind of wanted to do things on YouTube on your own terms mm-hmm you know I we always thought you were funny respected you and called you a comedian not a youtuber you know so based on the creative decisions you would make and the things you would do in the things you wouldn’t do did you see that yourself I mean is that how you would approach things well typically they would just yeah I would just vlog or I would do what other youtubers are doing but right I did that yeah I mean I I feel like I did all the standard stuff early YouTube days like during the YouTube live days you know and I didn’t go to seven eight nine but it was around you know that whole time it’s like either you were just a vlogger or you did something else but you know vlogging was an easy way in and I did it and I just felt so like it felt kind of gross to me I mean I have the utmost respect for people that do it daily but I didn’t like having people peer into that side of my life it’s a personal thing and so he does it and it’s great because I watch Shay’s vlogs I don’t watch a lot of YouTube videos but I i watch Shay’s vlogs cuz they’re it’s like watching your family that you know and I and even though I do know them I feel like that’s what how the audience sees it so it was more of a privacy thing than it was a crime a standard thing yeah it was it was a privacy thing and the comedic standard thing is definitely a part of it because there was it’s hard to you like to craft and take time with jokes not just turn on a camera and just upload whatever there is it seemed easier to me well yeah cause it’s the you know the complete opposite of stand-up which is a thing that is honed over time and right you developed and and every beat is in because in place and then you’d say I’m just gonna sort of just throw up my thoughts here and edit yeah together that’s what makes you know at the same time that’s why the most successful youtubers do that stuff but I just think I made an early decision to not include that stuff and it had to do like at the time I was going through a breakup and it was like all these things seemed to just not work for me at the time but and I’m kind of glad I tried it you know I can understand what it’s like to have to turn on a camera and then like make something happen or just I get it and it’s not easy and I don’t want to diminish vlogging in any way I just it’s not my style of content and it’s it’s hard for me to do it’s much harder for me like Shay I could turn the camera on and Shay will be bouncing off the walls and something will happen his kid will hit the ceiling you know and I just I’ll sit there and I’ll just think of thing weird and I feel like more people would be kind of put off by me if they got inside my head you know I never know yeah never know we we want to come back to you and YouTube and just yeah be to your entire story but I know in the time that you haven’t been making as many videos you’ve been doing a lot of interesting things including yeah driving in the Baja 1000 oh yeah yeah I did because you came here when we shot the what women want music video yeah we’re driving this like Baja out truck yeah I you know I grew up in Southern California for the most part I’ve been here since 93 so that the whole off-road Motorsports world kind of sunk in to me when I was like in high school and yeah like to me my first two vehicles were trucks and I still have my my Toyota Tacoma which I did some work to because I enjoyed off-roading and it’s not that slow rock crawly type stuff that you’ll see you know yeah on the East Coast out here we do fast you know sort of through the desert jump off dunes type off-roading get some air you get some air yeah that’s the most fun getting all four tires off the ground but so what happened with the Baja 1000 long story short is I was shooting and this is like the most epic just to give people the definition yeah we went to the Baja 500 oh you want one time yeah I’ll tell you more about that but so the 1000 is twice that it’s out of Ensenada Mexico and you’re going down the Baja Peninsula hoppin dice 1000 miles this last was 1275 so it was ferments not a little apause and anybody and how long does that take for the winner I mean the winners are doing like the four wheel class yeah the winners are doing it in like less than a day I forget what the winning times where I want to see like like in a Tina or 20 hours no these guys are running like the guys that finished first are running like there’s the unlimited class there’s a trophy truck class looked like desert monster trucks they are I mean anybody can enter like you could enter in like I was the same entrance fee or every every a category of racers every what do you call it group it’s the same interest fee and it’s the same prize money at the end which is like I don’t know four thousand bucks or a thousand bucks oh but nobody you know you get these teams that are sponsored by multi-million dollar companies and their trucks or you know the race trucks worth almost a million but and then they have like three or four chase trucks that are all like a fuel grain I mean there’s there’s a lot of helicopters that follow them I mean there’s so much money in it my problem is it like there’s no one really doing a good job of televising the sport because I watched a documentary when I was younger called dust of glory and it’s a documentary on the Baja 1000 and I thought it captured the whole spectacle perfectly like it’s a holiday for the Mexicans down there kids are out of school the trucks are lined up on the street for contingency you can just go up and talk to the drivers take pictures where they get in the trucks and I think that’s so cool and when I was finally down there to see it it was just it was mind-boggling it literally is like Christmas down there for everyone there’s no school there’s uh there’s nothing but like Bros and raced like in race shirts and black billed hats cruising around and black socks and it’s kind of a free-for-all like the stories we would hear from drivers was you’ll be going over a hill and then some Mexicans will have created a homemade newbie trap like be trapped dragging like booby traps were part of the risk dry up dragging a mattress out so when you land you’re laying it on a mattress it’s the the spectators down there are both really fun and can be really scary because if you’re doing a hundred miles an hour and you hit a jump and you can’t see what’s on the other side of it there may be a kid or a counter said somebody dies almost every year I feel like and they stir so close the spectators are so close you could just if they stuck their hand out yeah that’s the thing we couldn’t believe was we were actually we had access to the big river ditch thing there in Ensenada at the start yeah right where everybody’s pictures lined up against there because we cuz this was like oh eight I guess with Cadillac hum hum hum er yeah yeah Hummer oh yeah I remember that truck and so we got to like be with rod Hall’s team and I remember so many people just lined up there and these trucks coming through there and just spinning I was like if they lost control they would just roll right into this crowd of oh well the first like the race started four or five trucks in it’s coming down to go into the ditch down that embankment and it just rolls over into a group of people and right so you would think like oh my god the horror but they all scattered and then after they realized nobody was killed the entire place just cheered I’m like oh my god this is awesome up to you let’s go back to the beginning of Kassem G the human being not the comedian being so where you from where’s you where your parents from well I’m getting nationality yeah I was born in Jordan in 83 to a Jordanian father and a Egyptian mother and I didn’t ever live in Jordan I was just born there and it maybe stayed there for like two three months and then as a family we all moved to Saudi Arabia so I spent the first four years of my life living in a compound in Saudi Arabia you but you don’t remember any of that I do remember a little bit I remember my last my fourth birthday party just because there was like a huge Mickey Mouse cake and like what do you mean a compound compound is like in in Saudi Arabia there’s a lot of people that go there for work and they don’t necessarily have to be middle-eastern they could be white people on business but they build these sort of like concrete neighborhoods that are walled off yeah and there’s you know one entrance one exit sort of thing and it’s safer and that’s where we live and there were other Middle Eastern people there were white people that live there my dad worked in the hotel biz so yeah a lot of the business people worked there and we lived there for until 87 and moved to Florida because my dad got a promotion and was offered a visa so he worked for the hotel in Florida yeah so we he got his ability to leave the country because when you’re in those countries you can’t leave unless an American company offers you a job in America so you can get a working visa or you marry somebody that’s an American so there’s really not a whole lot of options which I realized last year when I went back to Jordan which is it’s a different story but he got his visa and we moved to Florida and we did six years in Florida think of it like a prison sentence so took ten years old Florida that’s where everybody you know brother was born now the weird stuff happens all the world news stories come where the worst stuff happens in the world but what is it like being eight nine ten years old in school this jordanian egyptian kid it was very weird i was what part was hard are we talking and oh okay but Kissimmee which is much worse it’s where we go to playlist you know we put you up in those right it’s like right next to all the attractions so it’s a tourist town yeah but it was right next to the Marriott World Trade Center where my dad worked so he had a little short 5-minute drive there what was your question was it was it a pleasant place for you to be not an outsider no I had I think it happened more when I moved to California but I was as a kid I was very self-conscious of being a foreigner in a in America and you know I might have had a little accident when I came here and I I didn’t do things right like raise my hand the correct way or like you know little things that you get corrected on but all you want to do is just assimilate and fit in and not stand out as a kid from another country living in this country and I have a thing that I’m writing which hopefully will shed a whole bunch of light on this stuff but it was kind of hard mail it’s a it’s it’s a show it’s a TV show which it has like flashbacks of me as a kid and there was but it takes place when I moved to California and I was like ten trying good kind of like the Wonder Years because that was my favorite show and I think part of the reason I screwed I just was so weird cuz I did watch The Wonder Years and I thought that’s how families were supposed to be acting you know like like Wayne the Big Brother treating Kevin like s-sorry I know you believed the show you you were I never watched one of yours but you were obsessed with it very much fried it like every episode oh there was a lot of cool the next day and you’re like yeah Paul and Kevin really connected like right and I was treating my brother like crap because that a younger brother so I was like I gotta be like Wayne and hit my brother around and walk him out it was you know out of everything so there was one specific okay so that’s that’s Florida we lived there till 87 I go to Montessori School in part of public elementary school there my brother’s born dad gets another job now it’s in California so it’s 93 ok we leave Florida which just had Hurricane Andrew and then we come to California and then a few months later we have the earthquake 94 earthquake so we thought we brought a lot of bad luck but kind of 93 in Southern California is where like most of the story picks up you know going to school 5th and 6th grad started in fifth grade so I did most of elementary school middle school and high school all out here and you know just to kind of piggyback on what you’re saying about how I felt now felt very alienated is a story I tell that kind of sums it up pretty well when I moved to California started a new school it’s one of the first days of school right and I didn’t have any friends and I was just kind of like a wandering dude just like that weird guy at the party at parties that hangs in the kitchen just waiting for people to talk to him sort of I was that guy and one afternoon after lunch our teacher said ok we’re gonna do an activity in the quad and in the quad there was a painted mural of the United States right with all the states of all outlined and bordered and everything ok I said all K kids you guys go stand on the state you were born and it’ll be real fun it’ll be a real fun to see and so like all the kitchen is nothing through that one couple kids walked over to like where New York might be or was as most of the kids were huddled around Southern California saw some weird kid from Washington and then you would look over and I was standing in a plane or maybe 50 yards away because that’s where I thought I would be relatively United States and and I wasn’t trying to be funny I was just like I’m not from that mural I don’t I’m from the planner right and so I’m feeling super I’m it’s like me and then the rest of the class right and they’re all looking at me because the teachers like what are you doing I was like I’m born in Jordan it might be over here somewhere and I look over and there’s another kid who’s kind of close to me is his name is Craig normal white kid blended in perfectly god bless him and he was kind of staying by me and I was like where were you born E is like Saudi Arabia like my dad was on business so we were thinking the same thing I went from feeling like the most alienated person in the world more alone than I have ever you know and then looking over and seeing like others abutters a buddy but who knows what it’s like there’s a white dude here plane flight is so that was it’s moments like that that kind of shaped me as a kid there’s endless moments like that but it was it was weird it’s more weird for me as an adult to look back at it because when you’re a kid you’re just going through it and you’re like even when I was 20 and 22 it’s like I was just a kid who cares you know but as you get older then you sing especially when you hit like 30 and you start asking yourself like Who am I why am I here and you start to reflect on a lot of that stuff and for a while I was like angry with my parents for not like instilling culture and me but they did you know then then you’re like feeling great for your parents because I got a chance to go back to Jordan and see how hard it was for my family or my dad to leave and was that his whole trip well my grandma got sick last year and since I had never been back to Jordan since I was there for that first three months and they had been asking me to come and I just was like and I got my own thing going I was always younger in school or something but mmm when my grandma got sick last year around April it was like a very last-minute thing me and my brother just got back from Hawaii visiting my folks and then three days later me and my dad my mom my brother all on a plane to Jordan to go see my sick grandma and it was also like you know meeting your cousin I had I have one cousin that lives in the United States that I talked to his name’s Michele and he’s you know he lived with us when we were younger and he’s like a brother to me and my brother but other than that I don’t know the other family members really so I got to go back and meet cousins and cousins and cousins and grandparents and people that all share your own blood that you’ve never seen before which and then you talk to them and you find out what their lives are like and you’re like well my my ass is not as bad as what these guys are going through right now or it’s just very different and I’m very lucky to be where I’m at it was it was good and I had a lot of respect for my my mom and specially my dad for making that that leap now you said that there was a time that you you had some resentment toward your parents because they didn’t instill enough of your heritage so maybe when I was like 25 or something you know just when you start to like you know your car insurance rates get lower and then you start thinking more inwardly about yourself and realizing you probably have a ton of emotional problems that you’ve never dealt with you know that’s I had for a while and it wasn’t a long time but I got no fight with my parents for not instilling more of the culture in me but they did they they did and they continued to and they never turn their back on their culture they just had to do certain things to like for example like the day after 9/11 we bought an American flag right now I was like why do we have to do this it’s like I was upset about that later like why’d you guys have to do that I mean we I know you were just trying to blend in but that’s just what being in this country is about you you support the country that you live in and you’re proud of where you came from and they did their best but I didn’t think that for a long time that was just my ignorance you know my parents worked really hard to get us here I mean my brother so did you deal I mean I know a lot of kids who whose parents are from another place kind of deal with that embarrassment of their parents oh yes they did drop us off like a mile away from school or we would walk you know there was no way I didn’t invite him to parent-teacher night or the PTA open house like they would mysteriously never get those invites I was embarrassed I really I really was it was it was uh not it just made me stand out more than I needed to because in my in my in my world at that time as a 16 15 year old I just needed to be playing the game just socially just be normal be a regular dude don’t be that weird foreign guy you know whose mom cooks weird things and like she would she’d cook weird things in the smell would get on my sweatshirt and I’d like wash my clothes a lot just to make sure I wasn’t snob to have people check me and like always smelling myself and it’s it does a lot of wing bringing weird foods to lunch you know like who you know it’s like I showed people for the first time what pita bread was I think right during its solar for pita was yeah it was awkward at the time and now get maker studios if you’d had gotten in on that one here I should have was your ticket yeah it was it was hard but I am so grateful for the fact that I had to go through it a little bit differently than a lot of people I know because I think it made me who I am and it made me you know I was very defensive and I didn’t like being made fun of so I had to develop some sort of like quick wit cuz it was the only thing I had so that was the I was 17 development of the comedy was the coping Megan right I had to keep people’s attention off of like my either glasses my nose my crooked teeth or my acne with some other method and what was your your biggest venue a wisecrack here and there or did you find a larger audience at a young age I think I was I was very much the class clown but I think I remember specifically in sixth grade I was in a I was in drama in sixth grade and the first show I improvised a thing where I hit somebody in a butt with a giant mallet like a rubber mallet I’m laughing right now and I’ve eyes it was like someone in the butt yeah exactly I thought it was such a cool move you know go off script but I got a huge laugh a huge laugh and I’m thinking about it now so dumb but it was it was like crack I guess it was it was like oh yeah yeah yeah all right okay all right I’m buying mallets now buying big rubber mouse but yeah I didn’t do I think I wanted to do drama in high school and things like that but I was too worried about my social order to to risk being labeled as a drama person yeah so I I experienced that stuff and like call it the Community College it was like the first time I ever you know decided to do it seriously and take some classes and then I took some formal classes actually just down the street from you guys I just passed it and had all these terrible flashback memories of my old acting school on the way here which which one was it I don’t want to jam I don’t want to drop him I don’t want to drop them because they weren’t that great but I did meet a lot of cool people in there and there was some good teachers there but I wouldn’t recommend it Oh in a place so you said that you’re mining your experiences as a kid for a show yeah but I don’t need to right yeah you don’t want to talk about it because it I don’t lie don’t not the type of guy that because it may not ever happen but I am trying to write a TV show that deals with my experiences as a kid and and specifically you know like when I moved here and so it’s work it’s like you want to do this it’s on spec kind of a thing it’s not you yeah it’s not something that’s bought that we’re gonna see no no no this is something that you’re I know I’m hoping to get a pilot written and then go pitch it and it’ll be made it just it depends on who wants to make it now and I’m in this place where I want to do things that are like that mean that means something and they’re like stuff I would show could show my parents and it would be like it would be good you know as much as I loved doing California and all those things that there’s only so much of those you can do before you want to try and do something bigger and then I’m also like seven years older than when I first started eight years old or doing YouTube videos so but your sensibilities change right and what you think is good changes so yeah I’m gonna try and do something that’s not just so forgettable like well let’s let’s connect the dots and then come back to that it kind of moved through the the YouTube story so Community College you’re doing a little your yeah taking some classes that I was taking improv I was doing when you get into the stand-up thing it you’re living on our accounting I was living in in Ventura County and driving I was working at Best Buy full-time and then taking acting classes after I would get off my shifts what were you an expert in and said Best Buy I’m a I’m a home theater guy oh yeah well that’s am I loved speakers I love sound and five-point-one it up sure man you know five seven point one these at seven point two get ten point four you don’t still work there do you no no sometimes I’ll go back into Best Buy and just like cry you know just like buy the office chairs and remember the pain that I suffered there well at least you weren’t at Circuit City right well your I have no place to go back to you’re right but either way both those stores are screwed yeah right so yeah I was working at Best Buy I was taking acting formal acting classes in North Hollywood doing a strictly comedy it was I did stand-up well I was doing Stan I should back up I was doing stand-up an improv before I decided to do formal acting classes like we’re out paid money to these so yeah i was i was doing improv and then my improv teacher Community College got by the name of john laprise super nice guy was an actor himself and really saw whatever I thought I had he saw it too and he he took extra special took extra special time with me and like talked to me and and told me to do stand-up and he was the first person I did stand up in front of and was the reason why I went out and did open mics and things like that and but all this stuff kind of happens around the same time so forgive me if the details are a little hazy but I was doing stand-up on the weekends take and then I start I decided I would also strengthen my acting muscle which still needs a ton of strengthening but I was gonna learn it and and try and work on it so I was taking classes and then by this time I went down to part-time at BestBuy because I knew that I was this was like a the train was going to stop soon and I needed to get out and figure out where I was going Oh at Best Buy before I actually quit and before I went to part-time I hired the gentleman by the name of Cory mr. safety Williams and then said that on his resume yeah it said mr. Snell I don’t know what it’s actually didn’t even see his resume some guys like yeah some guys here want needs a job it looks like a nice dude and I was like all right and I interviewed him and he told me in the interview that he moved from Modesto because he had a viral cat video that was huge you know I saw it I said like I don’t know a hundred thousand views at the time I feel what was a lot back you you had already seen it or you went and saw it after no no I saw it after okay I think he maybe even showed it to me then I don’t know he had a newspaper clipping of him from the Modesto which was funny it’s very Cory yes yeah and we got to know Cory yeah we yeah that makes and I wouldn’t know you guys if it wasn’t for for Cory either so right god bless him so Cory got hired and he was telling me that there’s this and at this time I was putting stand-up clips on YouTube I had a youtube account but it wasn’t under cast and G I would just take I would take my sets and then what put what I thought were funny jokes which they weren’t but I’d put them on I’m like oh yeah this is what this is the future you just put these clips online and then they’ll and then people will love get the big hits right and then nobody watched him and it I didn’t understand anything about the community but Corey’s like there’s a whole group of people that like want content but you got to like talk to him and you got to like you know get in and he showed me like it was like YouTube meetups and there’s these things and he pretty much held my hand as in the very beginning yeah he went as one of the one of the top comedic youtubers who also had a cat who in the cat’s own right was a top youtuber the cat the cat definitely I don’t know when it happened but there was have been a time where the cat was bigger than that all of us probably so cool I mean Cory was gung-ho Cory was so nice he is gung-ho in life he’s gung-ho in life but he in and he applied all of that to youtube but he was a Salesman too you got yeah great salesman he’s like you gotta invest buy but also for you to get on YouTube why so one specific thing he was like alright I’m gonna put you in a video we’ll shoot her in your lunch break right and I was like okay whatever and I’ll upload it later tonight and I was like whatever okay when we shot this thing kind of like in the truck receiving area and back and and I don’t know what it was it was pretty dumb I was like holding a stereo that he broke and he uploaded it and then like the next day it had like I don’t know how many thousands of views but I was I went and did stand-up that night at a local Chinese restaurant and there were no though and there were and there was no one there to see me there was the only people there were like finishing their chow mein and their orange chicken and they were probably gonna leave soon but it was not a room built for comedy in anyone really they had to move a piano like into the corner and there was I was doing stand-up and it was fine or whatever but there was six people there and I went home and looked on this video and there were like Sal whatever if many thousands of views on this one video and I was like what what’s what am I not doing right here you know there’s all these eyeballs here people craving this stuff here and I’m talking to a effing wall in this Chinese restaurant so that was it important I remember that specifically as a moment where I decided I think I would try and crack some sort of you know trying to make some format or make youtube videos and I from then it’s kind of a blur because you get swept up in all the YouTube meet and greets right and then you collab which is oh man you got a collab when you first start and the fact that you guys asked me to be in fat dip and I was on the moon oh I’m gonna be in fact if I just Dean’s in it and we’re we made up our minds that okay we’re coming out to LA to shoot this thing there’s a good number of youtubers out there we’re gonna reach out to everybody we know Cory was involved making his own videos how I the Cory part of a sanyo yes Danny yeah campaigner first one yes it came out with a second one the second campaign and we ended up I make made videos for it oh yeah yeah and that’s what’s that that money started a seeded maker that’s how we started right our company cuz it wasn’t long after that that it was a second now so yeah so we got everydays as i like to call him I’ll tell you from our perspective so we’re just asking everyone we know and we told Cory to ask everyone he knew so I think that’s probably how you showed up yeah I’ll just be honest to say you didn’t know no you were calling I didn’t expect anyone to know who I was I was like just happy to be there cuz I you know it felt like I was like oh this is happening man rhett and Link we went around the pool we’re like giving the speech everybody there only okay here’s Qasim what do you want him to do and then it was our first meeting huh and then you turn around and you pull your pants down and you have on a g-string so then we proceeded to put you in the most clothes of anyone in the entire video yeah so I had this lights no just no boarding jacket that I flew from North Carolina with cuzzo be funny yeah and this is a Tom Petty’s house yes old house on Petty’s oh the memories we had there so you got a good shot you you popping in the pool with the most very good shot very boy a g-string you had on pants you know those days when you can like just count your subscribers coming in yeah you know after you collab it’s like you don’t leave the computer for a while yeah it was it was like crack you know you just wanted a collab in collab in collab in collab in collab you hadn’t done a California on it no no so like I got to know so throughout all the YouTube meetups right I met Shay I met Phil I met Shane I met you guys I mean there’s a whole bunch of people and we just me Shay and Phil got along pretty well and we us three hung out it was more like Shay and Phil were buds you know and I was still just kind of like a no one I knew I was funny but it was just like all right you know this I’m still cutting my teeth getting my lumps and by that time I had let’s see quit Best Buy but I transferred to a Magnolia audio-video store so I still had I was still selling TVs but now it wasn’t in fun Best Buy it was in dreary Magnolia audio-video which is a standalone store owned by best BIOS right on Wilshire and Santa Monica because I moved I moved from Ventura County to Santa Monica so I could audition because I was I had a commercial agent I thought I was gonna like being a bunch of commercials and and I needed to be close because I couldn’t drive an hour and a half two hours at a drop of a hat for an audition it was too far so I moved to Santa Monica and the station forms yeah I mean that happened kind of a little bit after that almost exactly after that that second San Jose act ii campaign where we all had to do the same thing except just like i was a new camera this time i don’t know what it was right you guys did it too right we didn’t okay so the second one was like one of the first times i actually got paid to do a video the first time was when i did a collab with Lisa and Shay for a crank to movie that was her first collab but the actual one where we got paid I think we got paid 30k total for all of us and we just we just said okay well we’ll put that money back into let’s start this studio where we because some of us could write some of us could shoot some of us could edit but no one really could do it all together and then the idea of the studio was just to have a place where we could pool resources and share resources control education because it was Lisa’s house at that moment yeah we’re all just working out of Danny’s backyard right and you and Lisa was editing the and Danny was editing the videos and it was a it was a waste of time because they needed to be doing other things so if we could bring in like an editor and like hire a guy to shoot and maybe rent a space where we could keep this stuff you know it would give us a place to talk ideas we’ll put up a green screen in a room where we want to shoot and it was very much just that in the beginning mm-hmm and then and then I think I did California on was the first time so this way you had a page over the time I still had a day job and that was coming to a very quick end when I made one phone call I was I thought I and Phil has a new show and I thought Phil has this new show I can easily go to the beach Venice Beach do a man on the street cut together like a quick segment and then have them use it in the video kind of like a throw to field record swanda correspondent right so I I texted Phil which was ok friends with at the time I was ok if you want I can it’s no pressure like I’ve never been the guy to say hey put me in or like hey when are you gonna put me in that’s not my style but I did call him I was like hey if you want I can go shoot some today for your new show that you’re putting up tomorrow just tell me if you have any ideas of stories that you’re gonna talk about and he was he was doing a story on Miss California some like racy photos that got leaked so I took it I took my roommate Alex I called in sick to work I didn’t go because out by that time I was I hated every second I was in that place I called in sick said I’m gonna go do this and I took my Khaybar Corey’s camera the one that he shot me and Kitty on I took that camera gave it to my roommate who doesn’t know how to use cameras realize we didn’t have a microphone we stopped by a Radio Shack on our way down to the beach bought a corded RadioShack microphone with two short of a cord so we can never get a wide enough shot and then when we got down to the beach it was super sunny and my roommate Alex doesn’t know how to expose a camera so the whole video is blown out yeah and she looks like an effect you can kind of see me and you can kind of see me talking to people and you can hear it fine but I just didn’t know how to fix I didn’t know how to do that stuff and I didn’t know how to edit I knew very little but I knew I could just take clips of this interview and smush them together and make something that’s short right it turns out none of that mattered what mattered was I shocked you had balls too to say the things you were saying these people to you got good things out of people but you were in character yeah seemed like and it wasn’t fun it’s not like there was much of an evolution either if you look at California on in success even most recent ones it’s not much different I mean yeah it’s a little it’s less malicious because I I was quick to realize that I should not make fun of the people on the boardwalk because I’m here every day and this is where I live and I would rather be a part of the fabric than tearing it up so I kind of switched my attention after like the second one because there was an incident with a homeless guy that I made fun of and I felt really bad about and his family to know he was homeless and they saw the video and then they found out he was homeless mm-hmm and how did you find that came up to me the next time I was on the beach he’s like hey my what’s the deal my family knows I’m homeless you’re ruining my life and I was I felt really bad and then I like for some reason just gave him ten bucks out of my pocket and he said thanks and walked away he took my ten bucks that guess we’re even but I really had to like think about what I was doing out there instead of trying to get the easy laugh there’s another way to do it where you can still get the laugh and not be so mean so I think there is a slight I mean it’s not a dramatic but there you now the Californians versus when I first started I I don’t tend to only make fun of tourists and people that are just passing and going young kids you know stuff like that that are happy with it but stayed away from making the locals in Venice look a certain way because that’s not what I was there to do and and I love that and I think Venice is one of my favorite places in the world and and and I feel like more people came to visit Venice once they saw those videos because there’s that wall that I always shoot Infernus it’s in kind of a pompous thing to say but people would would always want to come down and see where my filming spot was and I figured I had some sort of responsibility to not be a dick yeah because everyone because everybody you quickly discovered it is a community it is a community if you keep stepping in there you’re gonna right there recognized and and they were nice and they let me slide in it you know couples early screw-ups but then this surah hole prankster thing happened and people started coming to shoot videos in Venice that were not in good you know they weren’t in good spirits and there were little malicious and I felt like I had to kind of maybe take a step back there wasn’t liking where all that was going people on the boardwalk would associate me with pranksters and when you saw the Sam pepper video like the pinnacle of this the controversy yeah what was you what was your I was like did you react you know you could say what you want about the content I just felt like it was it was not it was not the type of stuff that I would be into her liked to watch and I feel like I don’t know who would begin to watching this sort of thing and it felt like it was giving the the area bad name because it wasn’t just Sam pepper I mean there was there’s other people that just came and went and and I don’t I don’t have like I don’t own the boardwalk but I just if I see something I don’t like I would rather just be like f it I’ll just step back you know and like let these guys run themselves in the ground I I didn’t want to contribute to any of that in any way so I think that would come as a surprise too unless you’ve shared this with the people that one of the reasons that you you know lowered the frequency of those videos had to do with the way this it’s a small reason that the way that it was kind of infiltrated by these other guys I mean you know timing was a thing you know and then I was up in my own head about how to change the show cuz it’s fine and I’m glad people appreciate it and when when every day I read a tweet that’s like did you die where’s the thing how come you don’t make videos you’re such a deadbeat I know that’s just people saying like we miss your videos just make more and that’s fine I get that comes from a good place but I I didn’t feel like that show was in a spot to just keep going and I still will make them and but I want to make them different and I guess the whole reason I’m here is to pimp out this Bigfoot special but this ties in nicely because the Bigfoot special it’s 30 minutes long and it’s like kind of like a Kalyan but it turns into something completely different and we’re real happy with it feel like there’s some heart in it and it’s so it’s in the it’s it’s finished and it’s good i J least we just came from a final round of notes just now and it’s supposed to be ready for to send out tomorrow and it should be on YouTube hopefully a week from tomorrow on your channel on my channel and 30 minutes 30 minutes with an extra bonus video but I felt like look I know I’ve been gone for a long time and you guys have no idea and I don’t update you about what I do but here’s like you know I’ve been doing a lot of stuff and here’s one of them here’s a fun little 30 minute video it’s the least I could do for the viewer so there’s a lot of fun so I mean what’s new about it you’re not just interviewing people on Venice about Bigfoot for another comments are you it’s like uh no no it’s not in Venice at all it’s it’s my own Bigfoot special where I go on the road to go hunt for Bigfoot it has nothing to do with California on it’s in California and it starts with some man-on-the-street stuff that’s California on style got it but the rest is more of a travel documentary me and my road crew you’ve been working on this for quite some time right yeah I mean it’s it we finished we filmed it in August but I decided that I would a race in the Baja 1000 I’ve cast and another thing I had to shoot and then I had decided I would do all the artwork for this video on my own which was a bad idea because I don’t know how to do art and things a long time what do you mean do artwork I decided that I would have some artwork in there some some dramatizations some Illustrated reenactments animation well it’s watercolor that I had somebody cheaply animate stuff – okay and it has its so the watercolors in in this it’s not California on Bigfoot it’s called California on sasquatch and Finding Bigfoot special okay the virtue of ignorance but all the watercolors that is your work that’s all my work and it think it matches my sort of lo-fi I’m in the arts not very good and this video my you know I think we we had a lot of fun making it but it’s it’s not like a fancy slick video it’s it’s it’s I think it’s a good next step for Kalyan it’s doing these things and we want to do a ghost one and I want to do aliens and these are things I’m kind of into and like regular life which is a lot easier than thinking about your own fee wings and problems okay which I want to find out of us I want to find out about that because you know when I hear Kassem G is interested in the Sasquatch the what I think is okay he’s gonna have his day with these people who are into Sasquatch he’s screwing with everybody I I don’t screw with these people at all I it’s something that if somebody’s gonna come out and talk to me about something that’s very real to them about a something and and when they tell you these things are most of the time that you can tell it’s very authentic and it’s not something that they probably talk to and a lot of people said look I’ve never told anyone this because I think people will think I’m crazy but yeah I’ve seen what like I saw what it was I didn’t know what what to think of it it was just weird and my job is to not make fun of that my job is saying it’s at least for this video to encourage more information because I’m genuinely interested so where’s the comedy well the cops the comedy comes from the absurdity of the situation that we’re in there’s there’s moments in there it’s it’s not like it’s not like California where we try to rapid-fire jokes there’s like it there’s an arc and there’s like a whole whole thing I’m interested to see what you guys think about it progressing it so thirty minutes to spare there’s a legitimate search hey we are with thermal cameras interested in this I’ve always loved I mean you know there’s a Leonard Nimoy rest in peace documentary that I watched when I was a kid about finding you know searching for Bigfoot and then every Bigfoot special that’s ever been out since I’ve watched and digests it and I listen to Bigfoot podcasts and sometimes I stay up in the middle of night and read encounters on the BFRO website and you decorate your home with Bigfoot yeah seeing the Instagram right I definitely went deep and some Bigfoot merch I have a picture of patty a cell of the Patterson footage that’s blown up but it’s like framed on my wall it’s real fun I have a Bigfoot doormat well they say no more and it’s mostly fun but I do you know I do hope that we sold the episode to Samsung which is great because I wasted a lot of money I’ve always had a ton of money and resources on this thing so what was nice is that we did it and somebody saw some potential and and paid for it too and hopefully we can continue to do more of these so what’s their integration like you’re like out you’re like you’re like using the light from a Samsung there’s no it’s there’s no product placement at all they just get the video for a week on their Android app before I release it on YouTube okay which I thought was a killer deal you know it’s it’s they’re gonna help pay for the product actually almost all the production that I spent just to have it a week early and and if you have an Android device you’ll be able to download and watch it and then if you don’t want to you can just wait till it’s out for free on YouTube a week later so it’s really not a bad deal at all and I hope to be able to do more of them I am very intrigued and I’m certainly committed to watching it I think you want our thoughts I’ll be glad to give them I would love to hear what you guys think cuz I would love to get people’s thoughts that I I respect and watch because it’s different than anything I mean it’s it starts off feeling kind of familiar like maybe a kalyan comic-con where it’s man on the street in a different area uh-huh and then it has a little bit of like a reality-show vibe to it but then it’s not and it’s kind of like a travel doc and there’s a little bit suspense and we don’t find Bigfoot and we’re very clear it’s in the title but it’s more about just us being out there and and we were pretty scared but yeah I want my my team they’re all my best friends and they’re also happened to be the guys that help me make videos you know it’s my brother it’s John you know and Lane and Ricky who’s in the other room I mean these are guys I hang out with on the weekend so if I can get into a situation where my production team and my buds we’re getting paid to go shoot stuff that I’m really into that would be cool and make content that’s that’s like you know you could sit down for a while and watch it and not just digest it so quick so this represents an evolution of California on but to take a step back I’ve always been curious about whether it’s California on or going deep or talking to cosplay women at conventions there’s is there an element of having to psych yourself up and how much of a character do you assume in your own mind what tell me about the place you’ve got to go to in order to interact with people and create these comedic moments oh it’s not that hard it’s honestly I was you were talking about this I forget with who but I’ve had a lot of experience talking to people now I did 10 years at best by selling TVs for 10 years right so that’s like you talk your cold starting conversation with people for 10 years every day and then then I did man on the street and you’re cold starting conversations with people for one over the last 7 years or whatever it is I don’t have a problem with getting in to a convo and I don’t think I have to suck myself up I just get so tired like if it’s a Comic Cons especially and I have to try and like think of a soundbite Uruk witty thing to say while there’s like you know a giant transformer walking around there’s like dubstep blaring in your left ear and there’s like a chick with an amazing body who’s half naked over here there’s so much stimulus that if I walk around comic-con for four hours I need to sleep for like two days yeah it takes a lot out of me and it’s like you’re just making Internet videos dude like shut up but it’s it’s not more of like I got to get myself in the moment if I can just get there and then that’s half the battle like reading getting there and just turning on the camera and then once I get a few in the bank it’s fine and then you know when you get warmed up everything comes out better and when you get in that zone there’s like a good three or four hour period where I’m in a zone and then I get maybe 70% of the footage and then if I don’t get anything I’ll piece it together how wrong have things gone I mean if you’re one slug oh yeah I got I mean everyone always asked me I got slapped by some guy at South by Southwest I think he was a gangbanger so I’m glad it didn’t escalate any farther but I honestly I’m I should have been attacked more than what did you say to that guy he was he I don’t think I forget it’s in the video it’s a no so it’s out of the video yeah but I just started shouting at him and then he slapped me and then I ran after him with the camera on and then I tried to make fun of him but there was a lot of like there’s my own problems coming out I don’t like I don’t like when that happens but nothing life-threatening you know I just feel a little exposed at Venice Beach sometimes just because I have been doing it for a while and if for some reason I really hated Kassem G I could just probably hang out at the beach for a while wait for him to get there and they just stabbed him in the temple you know like I definitely thought this I’d have I went through a good year to where I had very bad anxiety where I had I had panic attacks and things because it was like maybe a year into people like saying hi to me on the street that would recognize me from videos which is great I love that but I had a real issue with it just like being noticed that was very uncomfortable with it it came from a weird place I don’t know why I didn’t like the thought of somebody possibly knowing who I was in a restaurant but me not knowing any of these people and then it would be validated by me getting a tweet from like somebody tweeting the back of my head at a restaurant or something so I’m sure it’s happened to you guys but at that time I don’t know a few years ago but I had a pretty big anxiety disorder thing that happened with it but it’s fine now you know I don’t I don’t have panic attacks anymore I did worry about getting murdered on the beach there was a group of skaters I think that really wanted to beat me up for a while but you know Richard I don’t want you find out about that just like somebody’s like there’s a group of skaters over they really want to fight you I don’t know I did I don’t know there’s so much that can happen at that Beach like I’ve seen people get in fistfights I had nothing to do with it can hang can erupt at any moment that that place is so volatile that you know you don’t have security it can be a scary place but the like the tattoo guys that work right next door everyone all the vendors were really nice and they looked out for me which which is part of why I was happy that I tried to you know show Venice in a better light as opposed to make fun of but I think a lot of people you know on the outside looking in might think oh well it seems like the timing really works out you know maker gets bought by Disney I know Qasim was there from the beginning so okay he just cashed in a little bit he doesn’t have to make videos I mean yo ya cashed in but I would have I think the whatever happened with my videos just like the would have happened regardless whether or not the Disney thing happened it we had a lot to do with just me being unhappy with the formats and where they were at and wanting to do something new but yeah I mean getting millions of dollars is also a gives you a little bit of a buffer to not have to worry about like I never I was in that spot as a youtuber where it’s like oh Friday I got no videos like what am I gonna do I got a mail it in I never want to be in that position again because it’s cheap for the audience if you’re mailing it in it’s cheap for yourself and all it is just to kind of feed this like never-ending monster that I was always hungry and I don’t want to I don’t want to be caught up in that I was I feel happier well how does losing that that sense of desperation that I think a lot of youtubers feel when you experience you know when you when you when you cash in how does that change the way you approach your work you take your time with it but it’s hard to you know I I have to do something that’s the Bigfoot thing was the impetus behind that was said we got to do something new and bigger it’ll take longer I won’t be putting videos up but at least I’ll be taking a step in a direction that I want to go is but there is it is a risk you’ve put a lot in Oh I mean I’ve look is there anxiety associated with doing it the wrong way you know like if you want to be successful like on YouTube it’s it’s consistency and I just I’m not as worried about is when I was playing that YouTube hustle years ago it’s I have I’ve carved out a nice little like audience for myself that you know I’m happy with if the subscribers keep coming great but like there’s no way I’m gonna play that game I couldn’t even imagine being somebody like PewDiePie or like guys uploading three videos a day it’s they’ve I’ve seen I’ve seen its take its toll on myself and I’ve seen it take tolls on other youtubers and it’s no way to live just just to feed a machine that way and and it also like I got to do other things you know that if I took didn’t take the time away from YouTube I would have never got to do so I I’m happier I get to do different things and but ultimately like my love is just you to like I really want to I’m not going away I’m just gonna change what I do and maybe it’ll be less or maybe I’ll find another format and it’ll hit so are you doing going deep anymore or is that done that hasn’t been decided I just it’s another one of those things where I’m pretty unhappy with where that where I’m at or what I think is funny and and I don’t necessarily think that shows is funny now is when I used to do it early on I mean how do you give me in looking back at it how do you feel about it I’m happy I’m happy with all I mean there’s there’s ones that I feel like you know I probably crossed some sort of line and there’s probably a lot of moments like that and I feel like I made those at the maturity level I was at when that happened but if I was to do it now it would definitely have a different feel more like a kalyan is changing I would change going deep to be less going deep ish I don’t know and I know a lot of people get bummed out about that because they like the show in what way what are you going deep ish what do you mean it’s just like I don’t know it’s like guy talking to a porn star for laughs you know it’s fine I think it’s it wasn’t like there’s Mo’s real funny moments and one of my favorite videos is the aw Sakura one because it just I don’t talk to them at all before and and I just let it go and then sometimes really fun stuff happens like the Aussie Kara one and then other times I can’t air the episode because they the Heather manager call and say that you know there that’s not gonna air so you were certainly in character but there’s no prep whenever you’re talking to a porn star no there’s prep it’s it’s half written half I shoot for like an hour and a half maybe a hour and 45 they don’t meet you until he sit down no no no I actually will do like I used to do things like yell at my crew before I I stepped it I wanted to create a sort of environment of like where they thought I was a huge huge asshole yeah and I would like yell at the person putting my mic on why are you doing it this way taken too long and if they didn’t have something ready for me I’d blow up about it and I would I wouldn’t look at them or talk to them until the camera was rolling and sometimes they would just be looking at me like wondering when I’m gonna acknowledge them which is great cuz some those moments are real to me and they’re they’re not they’re not forced and it’s it’s real awkwardness which is great I don’t see especially these prank videos like half of them 80% of them are staged like why why are we watching these there’s no real reaction here there’s no human emotion being displayed there’s there’s nothing there’s nothing risky about it but when we sit down and do those interviews like I don’t know what’s gonna happen in there and there’s like there’s two or three interviews that I haven’t aired because of the person not wanting them to air and had you met porn stars in person off camera before what a porn star might be as people maybe at conventions or something like that as people porn stars like your experience interviewing College all the girls most of the girls I chatted with really nice right very nice people can seemed really lovable and fun and like oh they’re cool when they don’t do porn but some of them are I would have to say most of them are that way because of some sort of like trauma and like some crazy thing that happened in their lives like they’re not they’re broken people for the most part and not every one of them they’re people think that y’all hang out with porn stars has got to be the coolest thing like it’s super depressing there’s a lot of like there’s a lot of drug use there’s alcoholism there’s like domestic violence there’s there’s a whole slew of problems with the porn industry that I I don’t really agree with you know and and and it’s that part of it because it seems like I mean I would have assumed that after the initial success of going deep that people would be contacting you so that you could break these girls off show I have people contacting me still but they’re not people I want on the show Riley have certain I I have I will say I will do another one if there is one thing I’ve been trying to find which is a couple that where they both do porn but the male does gay for pay porn and if somebody can step out that I will do that so it’s gonna take what you heard it here yeah that’s good but otherwise it’s like you know it’s repetitive I didn’t want to keep doing I and a lot of the porn stars that reach out to you are just you know they are just looking for some sort of just anything sort of attention whether you know like oh it’s fine they’ll make fun of me but I’ll get a bunch more followers and I like to think of that shows like I’m taste-making I’ll pick the porn stars myself you know because in the comments it’s like hey I just looked her up after this video and I’m a big fan now as I like to feel like I have some influence over who people a jerk to so well I would assume that people when you lose the you lost your cover a little bit you know you got these girls coming in and now they know oh I talked to her yeah the last you know it’s few they’re like they’re acting at that point they have to you know my I make sure my producers town look he it’s an act but he’s not gonna talk to he’s not gonna be nice to you after he’ll be super nice and I am like after the interviews are done I’ll go and try and be like that was really funny I know there’s that you probably think I’m an asshole I’m just that’s just that way for the camera but it I I have no need to go back and do more unless I think it’ll be really funny I don’t again I don’t feel like I have to just feed a machine just to feed the Machine yeah which is that pompous I it’s more just like I want to keep the quality at a certainty is one thing yeah and and I think it’s refreshing that I’m I’m not playing a YouTube game you know and collabing with people that you don’t want to see and making videos that you know are social experiment mm-hmm I don’t know I I’m pretty happy with where I’m at and you’re I think you’re happy with me too yeah oh yes very and in your also leave your hand your act magically in front of our face yeah I try to do a little bit of that too do you actually get directed by Michael Bay for that scene in transformers I did yeah what was that like uh I was fine it was a trip it really was that being on that set is you know I’ve been on a few set I’ve been on two film sets but that film set was like a film film set it was like you know okay you’re gonna be looking up at the top of the ceiling you’re in a wind tunnel right it’s like a GM wind tunnel it’s like a room that maybe 20 other people have ever been in their life and you got to pretend you’re looking at a transformer and meanwhile there’s like a hundred extras running around behind you and Stanley Tucci’s banging on the board and you just have and you got my lines that morning you know I just was told I was gonna improvise them but I didn’t get to I just he just told me what lines to say and they you know they came out weird and they cut some stuff it was fine it was a good experience but I got that because it going deep they saw going deep and they’re like maybe we can use that character somehow in the movie and I ended up auditioning for like four different things and they’re like well you didn’t get any of them but they want you in it and just you know improvise some lines so you’ll go there for five days and see what happens so I was like okay then I did that and it was pretty stressful getting your lines 20 minutes before you shoot them you know on something that’ll be there forever yeah and yeah Michael Bay is interesting he likes funny guys which which is cool he’s he’s cool it’s glad to see him work a work asset especially if there’s women on it you know there’s always beautiful women when Michael Bay’s around he’s kind of like I don’t he’s a nice guy loves funny guys so how much I mean how much do you want to do acting versus I mean you said you’re loyal to YouTube and you’re not going away well not but I doesn’t mean I can’t do other stuff and I you know I and for a couple pilots I shot a pilot last year I’m shooting one now but there until they’re out you know I’ll talk about him but I liked us to work that muscle cuz it’s not like YouTube it’s like somebody else gets to do all the work and I can just kind of focus on this one thing which is nice and it’s also a great way to get paid like you know five days of work getting paid on a motion picture is is great but money just keeps coming every every day if it comes out on DVD there’s more money okay but in the theater is pretty nice yeah it’s cool well I mean back at the top you talked about how one of the factors in not being not wanting to play quote the YouTube game was just to preserve some level of privacy and I know being with a vlogging yeah yeah with the vlogging but I think with the with the content that you’ve created over the years people have they have a perception of you that you know you don’t let a lot of people in you know I appreciate over the course of this conversation you’ve been very candid and but you don’t you don’t choose in a lot of places to you know to put yourself out there that way I like that and you know that’s just how I am I don’t I keep people around me that I trust and that I like you know and I don’t feel like I have to change that for any reason and I it’s not because I’m guarded as just you know i-i’ve old enough to where I like certain things and can draw boundaries with other things you know it’s it’s uh I have a lot of friends but it’s it’s yeah I guess I guess I’m a weirdo I guess I’m guarded weirdo yeah I think being guarded makes me feel weird I just said I have a lot of friends on a podcast which always means I don’t write so it’s like I really trust me yeah yeah truth is I don’t I don’t like you know if I don’t have to leave my house I won’t I got my dog and lately I’ve been painting it’s a very serene around my house so it’s nice so when are you gonna start the the online gallery where people can buy Kassem G paintings I know a lot of guys were like hey you should give these paintings away and I’m like no that’s just like they’re not that good I don’t want to give them away maybe I do find I do find the appeal of like like those time lapse pating videos you know you know watch those yeah they’re so easy to watch you know it’s like oh god I could make one of these I’m painting right now I can I just make one of these but they leave people like Mary doodles to do it she’s she’s great at it well it’s time for you to sign the table as we wrap up this thing and again you know I I think we got it we got to come back and do a part two right one of these days yeah Oh we’d have it what are you what are you holding for part two well I don’t know we just talked about so much I’m sweating bullets here and there you have it our conversation with cast of G let Castle know how much you enjoyed this here biscuit is Twitter is Kassem G ka SS EMG use hashtag ear biscuits also remember you can really ver review on iTunes it’s very helpful and you can join the conversation on soundcloud that’s happening over there I really appreciate it Qasim you know what we’re friends with him and you know like you said he’s a guarded guy but you know he came on the podcast and we can’t gain a lot of insight and who he was I think some of you may be pleasantly surprised that you know he’s he’s an actual person he was a just a guy who has a heart who has confrontational humor on the sidewalks of Venice he’s going he’s tapping into something there and I can see I’ll tell you right now the the whole idea of there being a you know some kind of sitcom or whatever that focuses on his experiences as a kid like this the story about standing out there next to the potted plant or whatever that was right I can see that working that needs to be in front of people right you just do it on his channel well he must forget about television I want to I want to plug his California on half hour special on sasquatch again you should because like I said at the top when we talked to casting we hadn’t seen it and since then we have it’s a lot of fun I you know California on sasquatch ain’t not Finding Bigfoot special I watch that on his channel so he kind of gives it away the beginning as it was he wasn’t ended he doesn’t find Bigfoot but they it’s it’s very they have fun have a lot of fun I found it very interesting that he approached it with a different tone like he described to us then he does with some of the California ons because he you know he let all these people who believe in Bigfoot Bigfoot speak via put I can’t speak right now but you know and he just let him speak and it was it was fun he wasn’t trying part and wasn’t trying to make fun of them it wasn’t like hey I’m gonna ask them questions to make them look stupid it was very much I’m gonna I’m gonna go hang out with these guys and we’re gonna have fun we realized that what we’re doing is you know even people who are with us like John for instance totally thinks this is the most ridiculous thing ever but that’s part of the humor is that he’s got this ragtag bunch of guys are going out including hi I’m Ron being by himself all night which i think was one of my favorite yeah it’s true so check that out and again let Qasim know tweeted him what you thought of his ear biscuit will be here next week delivering another one to your ear hall fresh [Music] [Music]