[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m link and I’m Rhett joining us today once again from VidCon where we recorded a handful of biscuits our Michael Gregory Evan Gregory and Sarah fullen Gregory three of the four founding members of the musical quartet the Gregory Brothers Band that’s best known for their YouTube series auto-tune the news and songified this and longtime friends of ours which will become very clear as you begin the biscuit with us their YouTube channel known as schmoyoho accent on the yo was created back in 2006 by Michael and I dug up some interesting stuff on there by sorting about oldest first that’s a little trick I’ll let you in on it’s quite a trick link they all sort button oh yeah at YouTube but it became the home for all things Gregory brother thanks to auto-tune and the presidential debate six years ago since its start the channel has racked up 2.5 million subscribers and over six hundred and eighty million views and a lot of those views are attributed to the success of their masterfully auto-tune song applications where they digitally manipulate the voices of politicians news anchors other characters from viral videos to create these insanely catchy songs accompanied by a hilarious video often that employs a lot of green screen and sometimes a keytar and they may not have invented the software for auto-tune they did not they simply could not but everybody they can certainly be credited for making it the sensation it became back in 2009 and 2010 I’m sure you remember the Charlie Sheen winning song almost 57 million views today and with 36 million views the internet classic double rainbow song but their most popular video today is the bedroom intruder song which currently has 128 million views and I know that you remember this one now guys that was the most watched video on YouTube so I guess that means the planet in 2010 yeah that’s big so of course the success of their auto-tuning and songa fication skills has led them to various other projects a lot of which we talked about in this ear biscuit we had a great time sitting down with three of the four Gregory’s talking about the history of how they became music magicians they’re magicians it’s hard for me to say musicians especially when I’m fixated on magicians how they became a band and a youtube sensation we talked about how Evan and Sarah met we talked about how all of them met rich which is by birth many most of them met library um what led to the creation of auto-tune the news and how their online success open the doors for many other projects like I said like making an auto-tune segment for the Oscars and creating the theme song for the TV show unbreakable kimmy schmitt yeah so we enjoyed talking with the gentleman and the lady and we think you’ll enjoy this here biscuit but first we want to take a moment to let you guys know about our song biscuits animated series you remember song biscuits where we collaborated with other youtubers to create songs based on your suggestions we should have had the Gregory Brothers on that but it didn’t work out that I don’t have to be for season two yeah we’ll bring it back at some point but what we have done is we pick some of our favorite song biscuits from that series and partner with some of our friends over at Frederator yeah to get some of their animators to bring these to life in animated form so we’re doing that on Saturdays on the good mythical morning channel so make sure you check those out but now let’s get on with the biscuit how often does that happen you show up somewhere and it’s like some news thing and they’re like can you sing our like callsign or whatever oh yeah literally every time you three call signs today just today yeah yeah mostly for serious kids and our signing kids in our signing line who are like my youtube channel is called well Bobby McGee production and you grant this request you’re that nice oh yeah we love doing what we don’t grant is when someone is like so have you auto-tune your baby crying yet now you have the answer the question you just made fun of I really want to know so where’s Andrew he’s missing great question Andrew is on his honeymoon he’s just been married Andrew got married honeymoon in Costa Rica oh the Costa Rica we went to the Rica coast would I have been to the Costa Rica he’s probably learning to surf or something well I you know we’re finally getting you guys on in your biscuit I mean it’s we we see each other we’ve been friends for so long it’s just been a question of when are we all gonna get together and now Andrews missing out and that you know what if it will be married and honeymoon is literally here and so be it lamest excuse will be rubbing this in for a long time let’s talk about the first meeting let’s reminisce on this thing oh my gosh great idea so Michael you’re gonna have to help me figure out how this works and then there’s the there’s the initial thing about what we did once we got there with the recording you you you remember that so I want to talk about I will remember but oh yeah now I’m remembering a lot so I think I reached out I don’t know how I like sent an email it was like you guys are auto-tune in the news and it was amazing and somehow we started talking right yeah yeah you know yeah and I can’t remember what email was up like at the time but I must have had the email up in the videos or something and then we were emailing each other like you done in like the channel section like channel information email thing right because I was like on this kick that’s like if I really like somebody I’m gonna I’m enough I’m gonna find him and we were going to New York for 7 8 9 July 8 2009 right YouTube gathering and sounds like we’re going to New York that’s where the Gregory Brothers are so let’s make this happen and you guys help me out because I was new to the YouTube so I didn’t even know that existed so otherwise I would have missed the whole thing I was like oh there’s a 789 I I was but you had to agree to meet us first which was like ruh we never like I’d never like cold-called a youtuber cold email to youtuber and be like hey look I really like what you’re doing let’s meet on the corner of 156 yeah I remember feeling this sense of there was I was taking it like it an emotional risk and sending the email I mean I don’t think we had been cold-called ever before really so we were we were feeling the same thing we had jitters butterflies yeah and we had just gotten our first iPhones Wow yeah one of the features on the iPhone was the voice memo thing revolution and I just remembered the first time we ever recorded a voice memo I was like it sounds so clear audio so good we could be like and then Rhett was like this pitch this idea to me was like we could be like NPR just using the voice memo all my phone because this sounds like NPR and we’re like what we’re going to New York we’re going to New York and what we’re gonna do is instead of like doing video I mean how stupid would that be – like we thought it was a great idea it’s gonna like not vlog but just to record audio vignettes and we would like take a picture and then like have the audio on our website and so the first ever interview we did we all loved that we met and then we went to your house came over to our apartment we had nachos or something we had uh-huh we had we had that um what was that we had that beer with the clam sauce in it which a lot of michelada yeah I never heard of that never had it since you got a good – caught a beer yeah with what we were made OG for some reason when we made nachos we were like committing to a full Mexican theme on the dinner the clam beer it’s it’s it can be different things but I think the basic michelada is tomato juice and Worcestershire is that right I thought there was Clamato Clamato and chili pepper in your beer yeah okay in Tecate so we drank some of that at your your-your-your round table there yes I mean you do remember this yeah it’s really cute I remember he put the phone we like sat around the little family table and we interviewed you just like this yeah yeah yeah it was just an iPhone I think I think there was a little bit of like how do you auto-tune and there was a little bit of like talking shop and then it was recently found it Oh for real it’s still it’s online it’s like on a no but I recently found it like in my like voice memo yeah you know it’s years it just keeps passing along you know it just goes from phone to phone it is labeled it just says like 7 July 7th or July 8th whatever day that where’s my limo 13 yeah kitchen talking to and then afterward we went we went to watch Bruno which just came out it was probably opening week Borat oh it was great it was like groundbreaking and this is like his follow up later in a total date I remember yeah like yeah we did it we makes you that we made you guys dinner and then we do the full date experience but there was a scene in the movie where it’s like a it’s like a full-on close-up of a penis yeah just dangling and wagging wagging and it started speaking yeah points that you and then start speaking yeah and that’s quite a first date you don’t want to see that on a date especially every time I look at you guys I see that piece it’s like a date number three movie right where you’ve already established an atmosphere of mutual respect and affection for penises yeah yeah yes something you have to sort of work your way up I mean thanks to that choice I Google is there a talking penis in this before I see any movie now right it’s on kids in mind there’s the talking penis section like right Common Sense Media will tell you that that’s luck that’s a spoiler you’re willing to find out about yes yes I won’t require to find it I have to know when to close actually I’m not being spoiled is the spoiler if you it would spoil the movie actually the face book but we remain friends Yeah right like that was beautiful well we have to recreate that evening you haven’t made nachos in a while actually great John written Lee are you guys place no we were there for several years we moved we’re still in Brooklyn just still in the same neighborhood all of us lived in Brooklyn somehow we landed a three-bedroom apartment and like the one of the coolest neighborhoods in Brooklyn and I think the landlord it was just one of these situations where he that kind of forgot he owned this property and you’re confused yeah and then eventually like years after we’d been in there at the same price point forever he like was like oh wait a minute do you remembered we live there and then raise the rent like crazy really think anybody does you know it’s just some New York real estate talk for you you New Yorkers love to talk about real estate rent yeah well you like to talk about traffic yeah we talk about traffic you talking about rent right it’s true and you know what like is the LA traffic that much worse than New York traffic you’re getting us that you want us to talk about it no let’s not talk about it I just mean you shouldn’t talk about it because you don’t have to get into the New York traffic if you don’t want that’s a good point that’s a good point you’re right you can’t avoid it you got to talk about it yeah you’re there and the weather which is always the same which is weird let me talk about it right hold the weather’s still the same yes so if I’m continuing to track our friendship before we get in anything anyone else will be interested in write to me the next defining point in our internet meets real life friendship is probably VidCon number one yeah because it was in Beverly Hills it was in LA at an injury Century City yeah I had the attached mall like outdoor mall with the rock sugar yeah we had sushi and the at some point either you’re one a year too because it became a semi tradition the wives were there yeah well yeah I mean you what you’re a wife and you were there yeah but I was so happy to have some other wives in the party yes right we really took it to the other level yeah when like the wives showed up yeah we don’t even bring them to VidCon anymore it’s what they elect not to combat we’re not willing to come right once we were all going out to eat at Rock sugar after a vid kind of felt very date-like and I felt we were in a long-term courtship we are are we what is this all leading to okay we we can turn that into this possibly or we can go back we can go back to the beginning of the Gregory family because you can talk about Andrew at length because he’s not here to defend himself that’s one thing to keep in mind but so we’re talking about what growing up in Virginia Radford Virginia yeah yeah good memory yeah Michael and me and Andrew were all actually in real life real brothers were were until we started working together then we legally severed the brother relations and is that is that that’s all the siblings yeah okay yeah well not like it’s not like the Payton family and there’s like one brother that’s like yeah I’m not part of this right no or the Manning family not the Payton feeling me anything yeah well he’s trying he was part of it he was right but yeah yeah but yeah 100% of us three brothers are in the YouTube business Sarah married me and now it’s the four of us but the heck are we talking about Radford Virginia yes we going back to the beginning will you like singing ensemble at a young age wasn’t there something with the parents taking you guys on the road with like playing spoons and something we had church family type stuff Oh totally we I mean our parents are not professional musicians they’re teachers but they’re both very musical so there was always music around the house now we’re three years apart each those three years from me – Andrew three more years – Michael so that’s family planning when you’re like 10 and you’re young as brothers for you’re not gonna be like singing in the same ensemble for a while but there was a point at which our parents did start pimping us out as a like family band and we’d go sing it like the local Lions Club or stuff like that really right well I like we’re going pro trying to sing you know at theater yeah we were singing for friends at a club what were you what were you singing I remember I remember performance of in the jungle and when I’m 84 for a friend’s birthday was this along there’s like a cassette tape playing or was this like no no we brought instruments Oh dad would be strumming the acoustic guitar oh yeah oh and I remember when we played at that Club this one time he we would get our pitch from a tuning fork and you know you hit the tuning fork and it goes when you like hold it against your forehead or really close to your ear yeah but if you don’t listen to it really close the first tone you here is actually just really high-pitched and it’s completely different pitch it’s probably like as far away as you can get like let’s if the the correct pitch is like an a it’s like a D or something really and so I still remember getting what you’re supposed to do with it you’re supposed to hold a tuning fork against an instrument like a guitar that resonates and then you can clearly hear a pitch but if you don’t know that then you’re just holding it up in the air and it’s playing a completely different note so we have this disaster at a early family performance where there’s like three of us children waiting for dad to give us the note so we can start singing or whatever and like three times in a row he would go like you know the note we need is like or something completely different and he’s like okay and then we would start the song within like five seconds is an utter train wreck we cut off and you know the only of information we needed was hold the fork against the guitar and that would have fixed every I didn’t know that yet or doesn’t have a harmonica yeah eventually it was like we’re just not getting this but it’s too embarrassing it’s too embarrassing to start over again we’re actually gonna sing through the whole thing in this awful key that yeah we could handle the singing in the guitar playing but not that tuning for [Music] listening who are currently misusing the tuning fork I would be doing because I didn’t know about this either like there’s not enough room to put instructions on it yes right well now you would never stand for that yeah now we have the iPhone playing the ocarina but you still have to put that against your guitar so musical from pretty early on and I mean what was the was it like oh this is kind of an obligation this is what we’re doing especially with the three year difference you’re six years older you know you’re the oldest right yeah you’re the youngest handers in the middle so it’s like you know I see how my kids interact being five years apart it’s like though they love being together but it’s just like it’s a lot of peace in certain social settings there’s like this embarrassment of each other or just like well you know this isn’t this isn’t cool was that happening yeah yeah sure we we always got along to a certain extent and then you have rivalry over like you know different things are going on at home music or whatever but I I can’t say there was a lot of rivalry around music because of age difference you know it’s like you’re at different levels writing the piano or guitar singing or whatever and and we would just kind of as a stunt play in the family band or do you know piano recitals together whatever we weren’t really collaborating as peers until we got to be more like college-age and everybody is kind of come into their own music alone mm-hmm basically and people are starting to write music or perform themselves and then we started to collaborate together a little bit more so if I’m gonna backtrack from like the auto-tune the news break out when did I were you at Michael were you out of college when that happened yeah I graduated and was interning and came up with it at the time okay so if we if we back up from that you how were you guys married no the in fact I guess to back up from auto-tune the news which kind of broke out in 2009 but that yeah but the premise for the series had been started by Michael the previous fall in 2008 really the first time we ever worked together as a quartet was the year before in 2007 where as a quartet we went on tour just as a band and we’re performing our own original music Andrew had come out with his own like folk album basically and Sarah had an EP of soul music and how did how did you two meet Sarah and I met in Brooklyn just I met her when she was singing backup for another friend like at a music venue in in Brooklyn and said oh so you moved to New York first yeah it was just like right out of school yeah within a year maybe yeah in it what and what was the first it was to be a musician I mean in theory that’s the hope it’s like oh I would I would love to try to do music I want to be like a music degree I had a music degree I also had a degree in computer science but I was like we grew up in a small town let’s try a different environment where I can meet musicians that are like that are really doing it and and just try to get in the game a little bit but I didn’t have a job when I moved there and no game plan other than what I just very poorly articulated so I had a terrible year of just like trying to grab gigs here and there what kind of gigs what you mean I directed a children’s choir for a while on Staten Island it’s a terrible idea I I what I say sounds like a movie in and of itself I was you know 23 or 24 or whatever I sang lead in a classic rock cover band where every other member of the band was 45 and we would play dive bars how did you get that job was that like answering like pulling off one of those paper tabs in like a restroom somewhere well I um that gig the classic rock gig came about because I was playing drums in a musical production of Godspell and the guitar player in the pit orchestra was like a you want to come over my band jams at this bar after practice come on come on over and I went over and then they found out I could sing and it just ended up you know being that and we started doing gigs every weekend what was your signature cover you’re as cold as ice Oh classic yeah you know I did get one weird gig in those days when I was kind of taking anything I could get from literally what you said a pull-tab on a flyer back in like the pre Craigslist days of like paper flyers on a boarded up store where I pulled the number and I called it and it was just like vocalist needed you like rescued this guy this how did it happen because you were doing your own music thing in New York as well where are you from you did you cool his papert a little bit he was like I need a vocalist I grew up in Texas and went to school in Dallas and moved to New York to pursue a career in acting oh I did one show it was cast in one show in New York and I was like I don’t think that’s just for me measure for measure oh of course I know nothing of that we’re talking a theater yeah yeah measure and I was like this sucks so I had I would have always done music as well and so I was getting a lot more work as a musician than a actor and so I just kind of transitioned into that and that’s sort of where Evan Evans in my world overlapped well what was the moment you know it was there is it there an epic story of moments realizing you were singing and harmony without intending to what was it we met through a bunch of mutual friends and immediately I was like oh I was dating another guy at the time and I was like man bummer because that evan is like the guy the kind of guy always wanted to be with but oh well I’m in this other relationship and that went on for like a year oh wow so you’re just friends and you know this guy Evan yeah he’s a great guy wonderful guy not the guy for me I’m not the girl for him so anyway I realized that eventually and then switch Evan Evan and I got together and then I moved away from New York oh really yeah I was like I’ve had it so I moved back to Texas and Evan just like made it work long distance I moved to Texas to know the first yeah first year of our relationship was long-distance at the time I had like kind of failed to make the music thing work full-time I was still playing in bands nights and weekends but I had taken a job doing computer stuff and basically I would just scam the game where we would have like a I worked in New York let’s say there was a meeting in Chicago or something like that okay they’re gonna fly me to Chicago what if my return trip just accidentally went to Texas whoops oh yeah long layover yeah I kind of like how ten-day layover weird there’s a storm flight traffic I end up here so I basically just works that ankle super hard for about nine months and would visit Sarah you know once twice a month there was something and I’d say that pretty much kept our relationship alive in true and then right from there we went on tour with his brothers okay meanwhile as you guys were sorting out who you were as people Michael you are at appstate just a little baby like Boone North Carolina yeah North Carolina there’s things that pop up like I try to start piece to piecing together from like the YouTube channel what’s like still up there very early on like like this Oh who’s this like okay nerdy dude with like a big fanny pack doing like rapping like Tupac a twist on a stage this is an app state these videos on your YouTube channel I thought I hit all those we found at least one and there was like there was that there was an American Idol audition thing or was that really yeah yeah that wouldn’t be on my channel but yeah that actually happened two out of three Gregory Brothers have been on American Idol it’s true and you took the line who’s the second alright who was first ever it was first so you you went in for an audition on American Idol yeah yeah as in reason seer uh oh yeah totes bro okay yeah that was actually season two so that the show had only been on the air for one year and it broke huge that yeah very good at producing stars at that time yeah yeah they were one for they were one for one with Kelly Clarkson well one for two if you count Justin I was big into that season too sure so but I don’t I mean I didn’t know you at the time I guess but you you were on they showed your audition as part of the show yeah I went to Hollywood the whole thing didn’t show that audition though right no just so there are more people in they can show they haven’t legit made it yeah you can see that yeah in the Hollywood episode you see me just like flashes here and there but but I didn’t go on from Hollywood says like they didn’t invest my storyline or whatever but you can you can see me in those episodes it was the season early in Ruben what was your audition you’re out your song you’re your live audition i sang a few because really what they hide on the show somewhat is that there’s like five rounds to get hollywood you know what you see is the encounter with simon Apollo but you’ve already been screened through four auditions at that point so that they’re getting the people they want on TV in front of the celebrity judges so and now I can’t even remember all the different things that I said saying this like at least you know first you’re in like a cattle call with 10,000 people and you walk up to the front of the line and some producers and and they’re like okay go and you sing for like 20 seconds and then they literally turn around and give a thumb up or thumb down gladiator-style to like a security person behind you and you either just like you either get all through the floor you’re done or you get a bracelet and you get go back like a day later to the next thing and then you’re singing for like an executive producer or whatever and you have the like tag that looks like you’re in a marathon on your shirt so anyway by the time I made it to the sub Dodgers I was singing sitting on the dock of the bay still playing that old man but playing the old man bit singing those love it they love the oldies on America great stick because Evan looks like he’s 13 and he’s singing yeah and like an old like man look at this own soul I did the the greatest part of it for me was this is a in a pre youtube pre rick roll era and simon cowell compared me to Rick Astley you got impressions oh yeah so I you know you finished singing or whatever and they they kind of took turns Randy was like yeah yeah it’s pretty good dog good and then Paula Abdul goes two thumbs up all the way and and Simon Cowell was like you remind me of of Rick Astley you don’t have quite as good of voice as he does but your mind I think was basically the I look younger than I sound good idea that was the basis for comparison trenchcoat yeah and I was already trenchcoat her and I did a backflip off a while Evan Evan took a chain-link fence into his Michael with yours I I think I’ve seen it I don’t know if this week I don’t think we’ve talked about I just think I’ve seen it on YouTube and username at the time I had this character that might have been on the channel the guy wearing the huge fanny pack yeah a fanny pack that can like pack like two lunches you know singing Akon which like at the time was a hit it was like I want to love you [Music] I know you see me looking at you you already know now this would not be a very novel character but at the time I was like oh man this care I got to bring this troll character yeah yeah prat son and somehow it made it on but you got you got nixed right off the bat yeah actually this is another secret I mean not so secret now but I didn’t actually meet the judges but on the show as long as you’re in the room they can cut you against the judges right and you get you montage you made it on time so I was talking to like the other the producer Simon what’s his head and I montage with somebody else or another Simon but you did appear on the show even though you didn’t meet the judges and then they edit it so it looks like you’re going and they just cuts a reaction shot of Randy going home they’re actually kind of generous with the reactions because sometimes what they do and I actually saw it in that same episode with some other like poor guy like I don’t think he this actually happened with the judges but they just cut to reaction of a guy saying you suck or whatever obvious that they were just like feeding that to like a camera or something yeah and then been editing it later that was you you uh you left you had you you your callback was during our tour remember like we took a few days off from our tour and you were like you’ve had to flow it fly to Atlanta is that where you’re called our class yeah very important appointment no it was I remember going to Duane Reade with you or whatever and like trying to find the perfect glasses so you guys were on tour so you had graduated by this point really cool but you were almost there let’s just say you were no but you guys are basically already established that hey were the Gregory Brothers Band at that point how did it grew into it over the course of that tour it started out it was like Andrews album and Sarah’s record and they’re going out as two bands and me and Michael are kind of playing and backing him up and were and then by the end of the tour we were one unit we booked like weep over the whole show the whole tour was like 50 dates 52 gigs and we had booked like wow we’ve booked like the first you know 15 to 20 or whatever as two acts Andrews Gregory and Sarah fullen and and then we were just each other’s backing bands and after repeated dates we’re like we would show up to the venue and they’d be like oh thank god I’m so glad you’re here Andrew but we’re still waiting on the other band I have no idea where they are they’re supposed to open for you and you’re like oh no that’s us the other band is us and we change instruments yeah so then eventually we’re like this is too many words let’s just be the Gregory Brothers but there was this like YouTube schmoyoho thing that was like percolating over here on the side and was that like at this point just a Michael thing like I’m just doing this on the side during the tour yeah yeah cuz you would start you’d had some some locally viral hits like what like soon so you you started a YouTube channel you called it schmoyoho nobody knows why I’m sure I still don’t know why you don’t I was like this will be genius I’ll get all the Google search results ever choose the name Schmo yo I just made it up yeah and because what were you seeing on YouTube that you did you have videos that you wanted to put up there or were you observing something on YouTube that you wanted to be a part of like uh a little of both I mean lots of this stuff on YouTube at the time that I had seen was just stuff like rip from MTV because that’s like before the the big Viacom rift where they were like pulling stuff huh so I was just like ah look like I can watch an episode of Ali G now upload a music video about this local park why not so yeah the local locally viral video they’re referring to is this video called Jimmy Smith Park which is just about a park in Boone North Carolina that is like how how big what has this huge sign like twice as big as this room which for listeners is not very big [Music] sign you know like way bigger than this ear biscuits sign if you laid the sign down it would comprise the whole park pretty much yeah it was this huge yeah like itched how do you make that local a viral every every Boone student watch it I think that that yeah you’ve got a song about the part yeah it was a musical called Jimmy Smith part to the park oh yeah please three rocks three benches smiling at me a copper this edge [Laughter] like very yodeling oh there I’m real bad I’m clicking mentally right now on that and I’m just sharing it I just noticed like last year I was getting like a lot of like like a little bit of hate from that video and then I clicked on the videos like what happened about Jimmy Smith Park and then it was a bunch of commenters that thought I was making fun of a famous organist named like Jimmy Smith if you would have use anyway you can get them you know the never deny any sort of traction we can get on the internet but what about space creatures from the future what man you guys going deep this is awesome [Music] [Music] no I remember when we showed up there to meet you I was like I the auto-tune thing I was like this is genius this is awesome show data rels I’m sending an email I’m gonna fanboy a little bit but then I was like but then we took a little deep listen to the song original songs yeah so you just had these things that you were kind of creating it was this just you were you guys collaborate on any songs not mostly know except space people from the future I think Michael was composing while we were on tour so he bounced a few things off of us but he was recording and producing it and what I mean what was the vision at the time it was just like okay I’m gonna try to make something go viral on the internet like wait I guess the main goal with that one was just a thing about space people from the future it was just having fun yeah there is no like real hook like viral hook you know that was like very like trendy or newsy because because it was it was before the day where everything is so calculated now where if you’re in a band you think about the viral thing you can do to draw attention back to the real project right so it wasn’t it wasn’t that mentality it was more just like hey we’re trying to do this thing as a band but I’m gonna have some fun on the Internet at the same time yeah and I was just learning to edit and record so that was like me experimenting with a bunch of stuff all the split-screen stuff and green meaning and and waving a keytar or and waving a keytar did you actually play the keytar and that or did you just wave it around probably just waved it around okay because what was because there’s an expose because what were you doing as a band how time was it was there we’re kind of music were you singing as a band was there a comedy in that uh I mean I would say most of the songs had a sense of humor about them but they weren’t collie dogs is straight you know it was like it was mostly Andrews music which is very like fulk set in sort of a in sort of a soul Motown II kind of way and then all the stuff that I was writing was like kind of soul stuff so you know just for white kids singing soul right how you do um yeah so I mean there were a few you know like Evan and I wrote a song called butter on my roll that was basically just like a goofy love song and so there was there was cleverness to it but it definitely was not intended to be like a calm but then auto-tune so give us the background on that like the skills that lined up in order to like physically make that happen because there’s yeah I mean there’s like a con has got the signature auto-tune sound preety pain I think right about the same time yeah but it wasn’t like power to the people everybody’s you could get an auto-tune plug-in but what were you what were you doing when you that you started playing around with this stuff so at the time I was interning at the studio in Hell’s Kitchen in New York and I mean we use the technology on everybody whether you want it detectable or not whether they’re a great singer or not just because it was like part of the style you know at the time I guess to that 2009 it wasn’t only like to be undetectable sometimes people just wanted the effect because all the t-pain songs are really popular Akon was really popular now you’ll hear that some but it’s mostly like a little bit more hidden and I mean pretty much everybody has used it and pops since like the end of the 90s yeah but people didn’t really know about it until like 2009 when it like yeah Cher and then especially in like 2009 ish when it got really popular well it’s weird that now in hip-hop it’s they use it to actually make them sound worse if you ask me I mean yeah cool but it’s like like that song yeah he totally messes with it I mean it’s it’s complete you know mystic like the one about the I’m blowing up the club on a Tuesday like that you know that song I don’t know what that was horrible I love it it’s like Auto detune I know I don’t know a little wayne has used it like that a lot and it’s kind of cool how sometimes it sounds almost like a tonal yeah exactly so you okay so you were this was this was part of what was happening and you were in the studio so in the studio doing that a lot and I think at the time I was doing some more topical YouTube videos or one in particular that was around the 2008 debates and it was a musical why and really for no reason except I thought that I always thought that news and politics were funny just to kind of like the messaging like around the around the election season is always like so basic even though it always felt like we should be voting on like really like high level platform stuff but instead you’re just talking them about like the most basic like did you can you believe that that guy didn’t like wear a flag tie you know that’s the things you’re talking about even though you should be talking about like oh like what what are their tax policies or whatever that I always just thought that was funny so I did a musical that was like in the debate but it didn’t have any of that kind of auto tuning in it and it did really well surprisingly what was it it was it was footage that was just kind of like rhythmically so it was footage of the debate I took Obama out and put myself in and so it was me McCain and the moderator and just saying a musical and it did surprisingly well and I was like oh let’s follow it up but it’ll be boring if it’s every week every debate it’s just me like singing singing at people right you got to sing with people I was like this this technology I’m using that the studio is so powerful I mean if it can make a non sing or sing it can make especially non singer sing people than Rican you know yeah and that had not been done you had not seen that anywhere I had I mean it it probably had been toyed with around the same time but I don’t remember but it was more just kind of recognizing it like this technology can accomplish a lot like the so you can correct people so thoroughly that it could correct the speaker into I was already making non singers saying right yeah yeah so how easy was it once you got into it it was pretty tough I mean you can hear like if you watched that first video that would have been in like the end of 2008 and our videos now that were way better yeah but we’d super lucked out because the first time I tried it was Sarah Palin and Joe Biden and they’re actually both like pretty good accidental singers yes I love that term I love this I’ve heard you guys did it before the accidental singer accident what writer qualifies a good accidental singer uh I think the sentence you just spoke was good accidental singing because it like held a pitch it was supported by the breath my voice is like mediocre right now I feel like if your speak like a low male speaker has a disadvantage yeah because women women and high male swimmers are and me female and high male voices have an advantage honestly a good rule of thumb is are you using your voice like us like a singer would and someone can be talking but they could be talking like this and they’re projecting and using their full instrument so sonically a lot is happening that is already similar to singing and so then it’s just like a shorter trip to make to match that person to a singing melody is it true that everything you say is technically a note like what I’m singing now is it a note if your vocal chords are vibrating they’re making out alright or multiple notes but if you’re doing a group like a dirty yeah that’s terrible accidental singing right yeah this is huge I mean you can’t maybe I guess this is gonna be big but that’s my point at the time I mean you’re reluctant to say I invented this but if other people invented at the same time in parallel yes but I mean you you didn’t see someone else do it and you emulated it you invented it and that’s pretty freakin amazing I mean when you when we continue to trace everything that happened it’s it it reshaped the Internet the SoundCloud is turning red right now me blushing but it’s what did you have a sense of any of that it’s like I had this I well in charge yeah when it were first signs like oh they’re good at it this is gonna this is gonna work well you know Michael kept doing it so you knew that when’s the first time you heard enough you know when you heard it was it was it VP debate in song and dance it was out you guys were doing something else and then it was like Michael’s like I got this thing it’s on my channel well you guys what you were already how I was just working a day job yeah you know during that two whole time period we’ve been playing together a lot as a band we’re spending tons of time together we knew everybody’s business and everybody’s projects and stuff like that and when Michael made the video for the first debate we were loving we were like this is so hilarious we you know we’d love to help out and look like let’s all let’s all pitch in so we worked overnight together on the VP debate and song and dance and like you know Michael’s working on the tuning and we’re working on like the video montage or whatever and that that helped in the sense that like you know the debate airs at 8 p.m. or something and like collectively we’re working on it overnight and it came out the next morning or something like that so we were kind of on board following Michaels lead from that point on and then trying to pick up different elements of the craft or kind of self-taught on the video side so it was during that period that it felt like we we got an inkling of like oh oh people think this is interesting and and funny because they wouldn’t get views in like the realm of like a few thousand views which is light-years beyond whatever we would do with you know live recordings of our band or whatever because that was part of the craft right part of the craft was and continues to be but especially in the early days was the quick turnaround so you have to you can tell us the process you you watch the footage you decide on some theme that you’re gonna kind of key in on and make the chorus out of or whatever where does this rhyme in a certain place and then you got to come up with a melody you know like what what goes into that yeah it’s really tough because there’s so many factors it’s is this a good accidental singer but then if everything they say is like super boring then we might not include it or if somebody doesn’t have a great voice but everything they’re saying is like super interesting or entirely crazy or like oh we have to include this so if you hit the jackpot and it’s somebody that’s like giving a very interesting speech and they’re like the Beyonce of accidental singing like like Katie Couric she was the greatest right and that was like that up here by the way yeah oh yeah I haven’t seen her but I’ve heard that she’s here a child of hers or something years who’s actually into this type of Internet stuff I believe it right and she was like I feel like with that video the first video we did with her it felt like the one of the first times that we were crafting the song it was just making quick one that was yeah that was auto-tune the news number two and that was I think I mean we obviously were enjoying the debate videos enough to keep doing them and enough for Michael to figure out how to sort of make this a recurring thing so you kind auto-tune the news and then with number two that was our first video to hit a million and we were like pirates drugs game is a thing yep and that had a lot to do with Michael finding that melodic hook and Katie Couric’s voice it wasn’t just like snippets of notes here here and there it’s like it turned into a hook and when that really landed like people just started sharing it virally that video broke out really big if we all don’t take old action and take it soon [Music] and so okay so these videos beginning to get traction and then when does the perspective shift from okay Michael’s got this thing going over here in an hour kind of contributing to to know this is what we’re going to pursue this is gonna be the thing that we’re all doing it was that it was that video right like I think you started pretty much working full-time on your videos at that point yeah after that video it was it was we all recognize that like we should be like all trying to put energy into this and stuff like that but the Creator program didn’t exist in its current form then so there was no mechanism to be like oh clearly we’re gonna make a living off this that’s still a question mark but it was just like people are responding to this whether or not there’s any money there let’s try to make more fun stuff and there was pretty like traditional media feedback from it too like we went on the Rachel Maddow Show and and whatever so there was sort of like auto-tune for hire type stuff at that point right people hitting herself into bar mitzvahs there was definitely a sense of like it’s not like we’re going to I’m gonna be a YouTube partner that was all new I think that was new at the time but yeah I’m definitely gonna suddenly be riding for jingles I was like my dream job oh dang I can write jingles now and there was a big piece of this was that Michael was working with barely political at the time oh you’re working you were did you have a job there uh no we just I worked with him like freelance on a couple videos but auto-tune the news wasn’t under their banner well actually they were really generous and it’s really like the reason a big reason that that went viral is we double posted it it actually I I posted it on schmoyoho and at the same time I was about to do a collaboration with them and I sent it to them and said hey why don’t we do something like this format it’s kind of funny to be like a mash up instead of trying to be like super structured and they said this is great can we just posted it on our we’ll link to you and so they did so it actually went viral when they posted it and but they linked back to our channel very generously but then you kept putting auto-tune the news on both channels for a while yeah we kept double posting for probably about eight more episodes okay and then at a certain point you’ve got a branch out like I can you know I can see and revisiting you know you five years ago well the first auto-tune the news number one was six years ago and then five years ago the first songified this auto-tune cute kids and Kanye a simple title that blew up more I mean auto-tune really blew up but it was on the barely political channels we’re really like went to through the stratosphere I think looking at the views mm-hmm but then you kind of it seemed like you were you you had to figure out a way to iterate on the concept what we did right we did a year of auto-tune the news exclusively and then after that year we were like this is a lot of work for one yeah well actually I think the Kanye video came out that same year oh yeah that was like the 2009 VMAs oh yeah at the end of that year yeah I guess and then that’s then in that next summer was when was it which one was Trent the strut that ass was after double rainbow yeah I think double rainbow the double rainbow was first no rainbow was the first like let’s take this one Obama sings kick-ass song was before double rainbow what oh man really yeah that was a huge one was three it was two videos before it and then he did auto-tune the news number 12 and then you did double rainbow song so yeah so double rainbow was the first time that we we were like oh we could do this not lose yeah the Obama video was big and it worked really well because it was a single subject type of thing and it’s and it’s also really funny because it’s pretty good accidental yeah and he’s talking about how he wants to kick somebody’s ass so that’s already hilarious so people really like that one but the double rainbow video was the first time that we were like you know what we could just look at a viral video as a subject for something that’s awesome on its own on its own on the awesome squared right and but at the time like we had gotten somewhat big through auto-tune the news but we still felt like oh we’re just another guy out here doing stuff on the Wild West of YouTube the double rainbow song like took off so big that that was the first time that we got this picture like oh we’re starting to be one of the larger fish in this pond of you know youtubers or whatever we can’t just be going out there and and remix and then and then walking away so that’s when we started like trying to build relationships with people and we reached out to bear the double rainbow guy right because that was the first time that you were like doing something not political so okay news footage is one thing but you’re like this right person who made a video correct so you so you made that call yeah well how did that go and what did you say well it’s like the video came out and then it’s like the reaction to it was so immediate oh you mean when you called the double rainbow guy Yeah right and but it was it was after the video came out came out we were like oh we’re just making this video Michael had it out within a couple days of when it had gone the original had gone viral via a Jimmy Kimmel tweet mm-hmm and it’s like the reaction to it by the audience was so immediate you could see the size of the reaction and people like I want to have this on my iPod I want to listen to this while I wash my dish is I want to give this voice when somebody just punched me in the throat I thought you were about to say that you called Bear before you auto-tune they’re like what was the sequence of events well that’s that’s what we that’s what we do now but because this was the first time it’s like we didn’t have that in mind and right yeah as of the reaction we were like oh we got to get ahold of this guy we like we got to try out we got to talk this out yeah we got to talk this through and so then it was at VidCon actually because we put out the video right before the first VidCon and I think I remember as I remember we were at VidCon being like we’ve got to get a hold of bear like we need to talk with him and like make sure that this is cool and and we got ahold of him through like you know the YouTube messaging system at the time he’s like the nicest guy and he’s like the nicest guy in the world and just walking around yeah exactly so so after we talked with him as when we put the song up for sale on iTunes and just went 5050 with him on proceeds of the of the song that’s at 36 million views now five years later one two three four videos later was the Bed Intruder song oh yeah which guys I mean I remember double rainbow came out here and then you guys did the show and like it was amazing the chills they’d be like singing the songs like awesome but then the you followed it up basically with this Bed Intruder which is now at 128 million tell us about that because that’s Antoine right that’s yep so he’s a different character than bear yeah and you would also kind of change your policy for when you make contact right so tell us how at the time we were still just doing videos so we just did the video that was probably within two days and again I guess we felt like if we were going I mean when the when we realized the reception was so huge and people and really wanted to buy this song and own it we were like that it’s not we got a we got to connect with ya and you’re doing a favor and yeah really so so we it was really hard to get and it was pretty hard he’s probably getting hit up like all sides like crazy so we put out the bat-signal like after we put out the video and we’re like oh this video is getting a lot of tension you know we really need to contact Antoine see if this is cool and and if he wants to just do the same thing we did for double rainbow cuz we hadn’t done that again at the time so we put out a bat signal which was just a huge annotation classic annotation at the beginning of our video it just said Antoine email us at Antoine number one hit at gmail.com [Laughter] but like finally we were like wait I think this might be the real deal it was like it was a well it was a cousin of his right yet there were a few dubious emails of course and I think this one was like I am cousin like why don’t you tell me what you want to talk to about or whatever and I’ll see if I could put you in touch and so we got in touch and then how did that conversation go well I mean it went pretty well as I recall he was like yeah let’s split it and um and I think even by that I’m not sure if it was by that point or soon after but he was like oh yeah that song as my ringtone I love you guys I’m trying to figure out you know you guys had to start to deal with your own success right I mean you had to figure out well we’ve got to iterate on this thing and we’ve also got to branch out this is not the breadth of who we are as artists we’re also a band we also have you know how did you start to deal with that what were those conversations like I mean yeah we’re still having those conversations every day about like you know what do we want to pursue because we we have our our main thing which is creating sonification x’ that like our our audience love they want it they want to see that but we still have all these other side projects we play in other bands and we have a second channel where you know like our more in depth superfans want to go see us do whatever but striking that balance of how much you energy you put into one project versus another it’s like a constant balancing act and you guys were working on a TV project for a while – right there was a ya show that you were developing right so I mean having success on YouTube as you know gets it turns into tons of asks from around YouTube but also traditional media and so we have guys our auto-tuning the oscars yeah we do we that was huge we produced a segment for the Oscars one year which was just in our own idiom taking clips of movies and put him into a montage as if those movies had been musicals it was really well received it was in an other and otherwise somewhat dark year for the Oscars when James Franco and Anne Hathaway hosted and was not well received and so I think our segment was seen as sort of a bright spot but I remember seeing that and I didn’t know you guys are doing it ahead of time not like we talked every week right you never called you you answered that Bruno incident yeah it was so exhilarating to see that and it’s like I either someone has totally ripped you guys off perfectly or you act he just did a segment on the Oscar we got a lot of them we weren’t allowed to really tell anyone about it and and and the way the Oscars work is that you know they they have dozens and dozens of its segments produced ready to go and then you know inevitably the speeches run long and they have to cut oh so I think we found out like literally like right when the Oscars went to air or something that we were had had a good chance but we didn’t tell anyone so then our phones started blowing up and being like as you can imagine there is so much protocol around making a piece for the Oscars you’re going through so many layers and I’ve almost forgotten about this because it’s been three or four years now but originally the idea was we’re producing a musical number that the hosts aren’t gonna sing and they’re gonna sing a duet with like auto-tune clips of the the movies are gonna play over their heads and they’re gonna sing in the movie or respond and it’s like as if it’s a live musical thing that’s happening it was so complex and so so we wrote that whole segment that’s a thing that existed that will never be seen and but it was so complicated that okay how are we gonna teach this to James Franco and Hathaway so we shot a whole video of ourselves wearing a sign that says like James and Anna well we’re we’re singing the parts like instructionally so that they could learn it and then perform it live on stage and then it was like this is this is too hard like they can’t they’re having trouble enough hosting yeah we’re not gonna we’re not gonna throw this is a pretty complicated segment and I remember on one demo I played the part of Scorsese giving them like a standing O that in the bits so obviously it ended up being just like a standalone thing right right you guys obviously continue to do more of the song application of things and you branch out into other areas but given the this the nature of the internet I mean there’s this there’s probably not going to be another Bed Intruder moment right there’s not going to be another because it’s not going to have the same freshness that auto-tuning something had three or four years ago right but like the shia labeouf thing comes out like they put this the green screen thing and I see that and I’m like the Gregory Brothers have to songify this what you did right what’s you is that what you’re getting at well it’s your interaction what and then like okay but but that when you see that role are you like yes at this point that was sort of handed to us on a silver platter [Music] don’t [Music] well I guess I’m I’m kind of getting at is like there’s this because the energy the way YouTube works has changed so significantly they like there’s this like initial wave in which like okay right place right time this is going to go through the stratosphere and then there’s more like okay well we are this is what we do is what we’re known for this is how we provide for ourselves and we’re good at it we’re gonna continue to do it but we’re it’s not just because it’s physically impossible at this point given the nature of the internet for something to be that novel right in a way that it was 2010 I mean you’re exactly right in 2010 like the novelty factor of that was just peak because nobody had seen it before right and so there was you know there was a song crafting but then mostly was just like what is this like I’ve it’s totally new and I I mean it’s almost like I feel like there was some time in in a caveman civilization when some dude like started singing and everybody’s like oh man like brain explosion I can’t believe this in like you know 10 years later he’s like still singing and they’re like yeah like hey why are you still singing at some point like singing because I’m singing yeah yeah now everybody’s still singing now it’s still a thing I feel like it’s just like another you know art form that is going to exist and with that we’ll always have like hits and non hits you know I mean it changed the anticipation it’s and it goes into the process because there was probably a moment in which you know when you were working on the bed intruder song after having done double rainbow oh this is this is gonna explode and now just given the nature YouTube it might be a little bit more like this is gonna be really good but like let’s not get our hopes up because YouTube’s different now is that going to yea the environments totally yeah definitely different so you have different expectations but even at the time there was no precedent for either the double rainbow song or the bed intruder song so with you through those like yeah we definitely had hopes like I hope people like this but never in a million years would we have said like wow this is a hundred million videos for sure right yeah you still never know right now because the novelty isn’t there we would you know never expect a mega-hit like that but some things do break out and some things are really shareable but we don’t rely on that for our day-to-day it’s like oh let’s just stay in the game and be consistent and and we can make episodes of songify the news that are more like about the comedy of us like commenting on stuff and then if I want to try there something viral let’s let’s do that as well but you know our audience is still there and they still like it so you know we’ve been we made a lot of episodes this year right and the nature of morality is shifting to I mean it’s always very nebulous where we’re all inventing it as we go along and I’d say like some of the biggest things we did this year are like the the Kimmy Schmidt song and on YouTube it’s like it’s doing well but I’d say it probably has been seen the most on Netflix and then we did this one video for a hit record on TV that got you know 10 million views on Facebook and on on YouTube it’s got like a like a good amount of views but it’s not like completely blown up you know so now it’s like you never know where people like which community is gonna run that so what’s the plan moving forward and this like the strategy and where does songify fit into that you guys sit down like Gregory Brothers meeting here’s a whiteboard weird we’re mad at each other and we’re partying in were throwing felt markers and lock ourselves in the room deciding on stuff we schedule being managing your schedule getting angry at each other for Thursday’s angry angry day is their family meetings let’s take it in emotion yet there’s a work meet might not work meeting I’m talking like hey there’s some emotional tension here are there explosions are there emotional explosion no there’s there’s just like internal angst and then one of us disappears for a couple weeks and then we research but I have to think that heals with it personally oh yeah but Sarah being there that’s gotta be a good dynamic I think that you being there I think it probably helps with any potential friction between three brothers right I mean it’s that’s kind of don’t you guys go you guys like really have knocked down drag out fights before I came along and you’re just on there on your best behavior still after six years it’s primarily passive-aggressive I would say yeah the way we like you know build up some tension about like Andrew said today he’s over there read and read it and he didn’t do his dishes there’s a salsa bowl in the sink unwashed right now we are we have plenty of you know business meetings where we’re talking about okay we got these ten videos we want to make which ones are we working on this week you know whatever and we you know we’ll we’ll go through those with weeks of regularity without ever talking about its feelings we did Institute an annual meeting I recommend this for everybody this sort of like it is it’s definitely business you know focused where we do like the big picture sort of like goal-setting and dreaming and stuff and reviewing of preview at the previous year and just this year so so we hash out a lot they’re like I’ve really been pissed over this last year about this but this year this last past year was the first time I made us take personality tests specific to how you interact with other people and so we did a little bit of that and just I mean it’s like it’s stuff we already know but what else did you determine besides you’re the only one who likes personality – yeah pretty much that we well we we kind of walked in on the fact that like Michael and I are actually the extroverts and I mean introverts in the group Andrew and Evan are the extroverts that but that yeah that Andrews an initiator he’s he’s like our he’s like our team coach like he’ll he can like help us incur it he can encourage something to the finish line Michael likes to work alone which is you know tough that you have to work with three people I don’t know what else do we learn that’s pretty much it thanks guys and glad it stay with you so I don’t know we you know we try to we try to go there and kind of hash out everyone’s well but I have to say I feel like we’re all pretty lucky we work pretty well together and this is a question that we asked to any any groups that work together and it’s usually a duo that we asked this question to but you know is this a this is a forever thing we’re gonna work together in some capacity forever or it’s just like we each we you know this is great but we’ve got our own things that we want to branch out and try I know you guys already do a lot of things sort of you know different projects but is there just the sense that there’s there’s a natural end to it or is it just like now this is something wrong is going to maintain I’m really curious to hear your answers but I’ll just answer first because that’s what I do I think none of us like to say no to anything ever so I think that there’s just this sense that we’ll just keep doing it and do other things you know we there’s a there’s like a connection to a community that keeps us really tied to what we’re doing and then obviously like pride and what we’ve built together and being connected to one another and it’s like you’ve put in all of this time to like learn how to work together and it would be such a shame to throw it out the window but I don’t I don’t foresee a time that any of us would ever be like I’m out except that I just had a baby and I’m like mmm I like hanging out with the baby more than you guys yeah there’s that but I’m still I’m still in the office we would have to get brother divorced if we’re gonna stop bored right yeah that’s an official I know a lawyer who can do that who specializes in sibling divorce I don’t know what are you guys I’m really curious I mean honestly I think it’s somewhere in between I think we will work together indefinitely as long as it keeps working but you know six years ago we never would have said like oh this YouTube thing is definitely gonna be a career and we’re still at a point where it’s like how long is this gonna you know keep happening until the environment totally changes and the money doesn’t work or we get you know and offered it goes you know some somewhere else like maybe we move from this to another medium or another platform or whatever it’s so different now than it was five years ago or ten years ago that we can’t possibly predict what the career is gonna be like but right now we still really enjoy making videos together and so we’re definitely gonna proceed with that while we also try to make TV over here make music over here and just dip our toes into all the different things well I’ll keep dipping and keep us keep us keep us in the mix relationally we want to add other keep us on mix relationship other data points a lot of different ways that was my first line to Sarraj you know that keep me in the mix relation yeah just got one request when you go back to Texas you’ll just keep me in the commode for nachos anytime there it was our conversation with our friends the Gregory Brothers let them know what you thought hashtag your biscuits tweet at them their handle is Gregory Brothers not the Gregory Brothers just Gregory Brothers because that’s a lot of letters and Twitter all unless you go so far and that’s enough I mean why do they need Thee well I don’t me may not be able to fit the isn’t there a limit on how long your Twitter handle can be I just thought that you said it was too many I didn’t know he it was too many just like philosophically or like you know is there a is there a philosophical limit to how long a Twitter handle should be or is there a technical limit both and and what and do they converge are they the same yes my question and do you know what the answer is because you don’t seem to Gregory if you count the letters of Gregory Brothers I’m betting that and you add at least at most three you’re gonna get there and if it was one less than it would have been Gregory Brothers with a like B are OT H a s to get rid of the are yeah that’s about be confusing now I like the fact that this came full circle you know when we went up to visit them in 2009 we recorded them we recorded an interview with them on your iPhone yes in voicemail and now we had about I think significantly upgraded the recording quality in our approach but everything I think you know that itch that we scratched because you had the voice memo how you know I would like to just do a an audio interview yeah it’s and are those still available somewhere in full circle I think if you go to the redolent community right they were only community at some point it was on when we had a blog on our website mm-hmm I think we did it that way no no I don’t you you can try to dig those up but you remember we also you know we also talked to that visit you remember Allison Fishman the voice for the voice for Swedish meatballs or whatever she did only ended up connecting with her on her old rhett and Link cast live and she taught us how to make guacamole over the phone in which we fed to a hawk which you weren’t supposed to do because it could kill it anyway it didn’t die the hawks okay but when we went to New York to talk to the Gregory Brothers we also sat down and had a meal with her and recorded that but now we find a way that didn’t make sense you know for us just to post a picture and an audio interview on our website we are now doing that I think you’ve read it the Gregory Brothers in to some degree for the for us doing your biscuits let’s do that we had the right to do that okay so they were they were on the first ever primordial version of your biscuits which was just your iPhone yes and where’s ago and they were the first in-studio guest on good mythical morning they were that is a fact they set on that weird futon that I had in the garage we had our set it’s not enough room for all and Andrew wasn’t there then you know Andrew has a way of slipping away or you know what I know he was there I think he was there but Sarah was Sarah wasn’t there I can’t remember I can’t remember either but it was also there all Gregory’s well three of them and one of them married into it but you know I mean we’re just trying things let’s just say we’re ahead of our time yeah or that we tried a new didn’t work and now it’s finally working let’s just say it’ll sound more self-deprecating we also if we would have known auto-tune and and we would have gone a lot further with some other things we tried like we took people’s words verbatim and turn them into song and we did that for Alexis Cohen the American are saying that if we had all attended that we would have been the Gregory Brothers we could have been and I’m so glad that we didn’t know auto-tune because there’s they’re so awesome and then they wouldn’t exist uh that’s me for some no but that’s pretty presumptuous ok so let me go on record and saying that I’m glad that we didn’t do it because it would have sucked okay then we would have looked stupid when they did an awesome so thanks to the Gregory Brothers for doing things the right way and in a way that we wouldn’t have done and giving us all millions of us entertainment and in not just the past the present but also the future were excited about what you guys are doing and thanks for coming on that your biscuit oh you’re talking to them right now yeah I usually don’t do that but you know what they they’re gonna listen to this right and thank you no they won’t I mean I wouldn’t listen to myself for over now the chance I’m listening to it go up really high because there’s four of them so at least one of them will attend them one of them will tell it all the rest of them about it and they’ll probably divide it up I’ll take the first 25% okay you know there’s only one of them’s listening to them right so and I like to think that it’s Michael I don’t know why because he seems like he’s because he’s the youngest he did they make him do everything last oh they make him do everything thank you guys for listening and for staying to the to the bitter end here with us the music’s playing it is a bitter end it is very bitter but we’ll be back at you next week speaking into your ears holes and canals can we say canal your canals York analysis will be rolling up your ear canals this time again next week you know romantic canoe and the time is really whenever you so choose yeah didn’t choose it be six more years from now what what presidents being auto-tune right now who [Music] [Music]