And I want to ask about your relationship to the 2013 breakup because you were the one that you know was like the the impetus behind it. Do you have any residual guilt and do you have any residual resentment towards that even if it is like the smallest little thing? >> Um not guilt so much as reflection. You know I can definitely see how I could have more lovingly communicated something that needed to be said. It’s often how we say things that matters more than what we’re saying. you. I think we all knew in the operating system that we were operating in, it it was it had run its course. >> Yeah. >> But um just didn’t know how to maturely like articulate that and and lovingly do that. Um what about you guys? Do you do you still have u resentment towards me? >> No. I’m glad you brought it up. >> That’s why we’re here today. Final surprise guilt. Um I I think it needed to happen and I think we all grew from that experience so much and it was important for us to be able to like realize yeah okay we were having such a difficult time just being real with each other back then >> that we had to take these kind of moments to be like a proper breakup of saying I’m sorry I don’t want to do this anymore. >> Now it’s like we can communicate way better because we’re able to be like all right we we don’t need to be scared to have tough conversations. Hey, Kevin, you said something about the most important words you learned were saying like I’m not comfortable, which I thought was really powerful. >> I think when there’s a true need, I think we we always band together and we come to each other and I think we’re brothers first. I know that’s a little cliche to say, but we truly are. You know, I think there was an emergency of any capacity or there was really something that was happening, I think I could lean on them in a heartbeat. >> Yeah. You know,
