Well, thank you so much for having me over. Your place is really lovely. Yeah, no, for sure. I love the portraits over there. Did you guys have to like, do you guys like buy the matching outfits and go to like Sears? Does Sears even exist anymore? They do it at Target now? That’s crazy. Well, I mean, they’re awesome. And truly, thank you. That’s great. I brought the green bean casserole. I hope you guys didn’t already. Oh, you did make one? I mean, let’s see who’s is better then. I made it from a can pretty much. It’s just the cream of mushrooms. You do the same? Yeah, yeah. I mean, Thanksgiving for me, it’s like, don’t fix it if it ain’t broken, you know what I mean? I like to play the hits, I like to play the hits. But really, I mean, the food looks fantastic. The spread, everything y’all did. It’s really lovely. It’s working for me. Yeah, uh-huh. Oh no, for sure, for sure. Let’s dig in. The sweet potato cake. You made the sweet potato casserole? Yeah, the marshmallows to me are the key. Do you guys have like a strategy for building the plate ’cause I have this whole theory where like, what you gotta do is you gotta separate the sweet sides from the savory sides, because like, I love all the things stuff, right? But when you get like the cranberry sauce and the marshmallows mixed with the gravy, it kind of weirds me out. So I like to put like a divider of turkey in the middle. Yeah, ’cause then, the turkey, like, it acts as like a sponge for like the cranberry sauce on one side and then the gravy on the other side, and then they don’t have to touch. It’s like when you go to like Denny’s and you get the pancakes on the same plate. Like, I need to make like a wall, like a beaver dam of the sausage in the bacon. So that way, you put the syrup on the pan and none of it gets on the eggs. Yeah. I’m like, I dunno. I’m kind of, I guess like weird like that, but you know? Yeah. Well, hey, let’s dig. I mean, don’t wait for me, like please, start eating. I see you already started eating. This is a weird thing that I have to do with every napkin whenever I sit down. Like, don’t mind me. It’s just totally my thing. But every time I see a napkin, I have to take it and I fold it like this. It’s almost a compulsion at this point where like, I can’t even stop myself if I tried. But seriously, like do this on like your next Thanksgiving. Like, I’m just saying, like, don’t let me come in here and tell you how to run things, but you fold it like that and then you like put the silverware inside and then you got a nice little pocket. It’s super stupid, but I worked for this catering company in college and we had to do this like 1,000 times. I mean, literally, 1,000 napkins a day we had to fold like this. And so I would sometimes come in, I’d have like headphones in. I’d be like listening to not like lectures, but it would be like a class that I was in. If it was about like dinosaurs or something, I’d be like, well, maybe if I listen to a podcast about dinosaurs, I don’t have to study. And so I’d just plug that in and then I’d come in and I’d sit down and I’d just fold a 1,000 napkins, listening to a podcast about dinosaurs, like to get a D minus in that class. It was hard. It was a hard class. It was like technically a math class ’cause that’s how college works, where they’re like, don’t know how to do calculus? Take dinosaurs. It’s harder than calculus. And it’s like, I thought it was gonna be like… I imagined it being like, like literally, I thought it was gonna have a picture and be like, which dinosaur is this? And I’d be like, that’s a stegosaurus. And instead, it was just like, prove via this evolutionary diagram that a hamster is more closely related to a frog than a human. And I was like, oh, I don’t reckon I could do that. I don’t reckon I could do that. All right, yeah, yeah. No, let’s eat, let’s eat, let’s eat. Yeah, no, it’s a spork. Yeah, no, no. For some reason, people are always like, is that a fork? And I’m like, no, it’s a spork ’cause you could eat like a thick soup with it. Yeah. I got it when I was like 23. It was like 85 bucks. It was totally stupid. I mean, I love it though. It’s, yeah. It’s kind of just one of those things. People are like, aren’t you going to regret that when you’re old? I’m like, I’m going to regret a lot more when I’m old than that. You brine it? Yeah, it makes all the difference. No, I didn’t. I didn’t expect the cranberry sauce to be made from scratch. I think a lot of people think because like I cook food and stuff like that that I’m someone who’s like snobby about it, but like honestly, cranberry sauce, the stuff from the cans, it’s just better. I’ve made my own cranberry sauce from scratch. Just like every time I do, I’m like, well, that’s two hours I’ll never get back in my life. No, the canned stuff’s great. Gotta be name brand though. Gotta be Ocean Spray. I’m sorry, I gotta take this real quick. I don’t need a charger. Sorry, I know this is like super rude. I just gotta check something real quick. It was a DM on LinkedIn. Yeah, no, I don’t know how I turned on notifications for it. It just kind of happened. Honestly, though, like kind of a nice non-toxic space to be. Like Twitter, you know, I feel like you log on, you get depressed. And then you go on LinkedIn. And just like, I got a promotion. It’s like, heck yeah. Heck yeah, Jamie. Yeah, you did. Also, I gotta say, I love that you did mac and cheese ’cause like people who don’t have mac and cheese on their table at Thanksgiving, they don’t know what they’re missing. Sorry, I’m like talking with my mouth full. I don’t get out much. Oh gosh, the black pepper, the black pepper. I put too much black pepper in the green bean casserole. I’m sorry. Look at the lights. Okay. We’re good. False alarm, false alarm. Do you think this is one of the turkeys that was pardoned? No, I’m kidding. They don’t actually. They actually like, they kinda like go on to live full lives, I read. I read like a whole, I think it was like Slate or something, they did this whole piece about like what happens to the pardoned turkeys. And they just like, yeah. It’s like a follow-up piece five years later with the turkey, and they’re like, yep, still being a turkey. And it’s like, someone got paid to write that. I could write that piece. Hmm, yeah, please. Thank you. I like how you saw. You were like, it seems like this man needs gravy. Thank you. Mm-hmm. And so you’re in your third year? Okay. Oh, so you took like the, like a year after high school? You were just like, chilling? I mean, not like chilling, but like, you know, do you have a job or? Oh yeah, cool. No. If I could do it over again, I’d go to community college. Like honestly, it seems cool not to and then you’re at school and then you get that like right when you graduate, they don’t tell you this, but right when you graduate, you just get like an email that’s like, congrats, you owe a bunch of money. Like, that’s it. Like, they don’t even like send you. It’s not like a gentle easing in process. They’re just like, you have 40 grand in student loans. Start paying them back or we’re gonna sue you. Save money and you get the same education. People only care where the, like the degree that you like graduated with comes from. No one even looks at job applications really. Like, no one looks at the education on it. You know? I remember when I applied for. I’m sorry, the sweet potatoes are too good. When I applied for my first full-time job after college, I put my college GPA on my resume just ’cause I thought that’s how you had to do it. And it was like a 2.7. And literally, I got hired for the job. And the person who hired me was like, hey, by the way, unless you had like a 3.9 GPA, don’t put it on a resume. That’s weird. And I was like, yeah, it makes sense. I can see me going, “And I was a C average!” Didn’t exactly like sell it, but yeah. I mean, like I know everyone has to be like, do you know what you want to do after? No, I mean, who does? Like, you don’t need to. I mean, I didn’t know what I wanted to do until like, I don’t know, probably fourth year of college. I was like, let’s start a blog. And now, I’m trying not to spiral. Kind of spiraled out of control after that, but you’ll figure it out. Like, you eventually do. And like, who really has it figured out, you know? Criminology? That’s cool. Like, studying? I don’t know. When I hear, like, I’m studying criminology, I think of like all the podcasts. Like do you, you’re a true? Yeah, yeah, true crime. Yeah. Which one? Like if I said, hail yourself, does that mean anything to you? Yeah, no, I listen to it too. I’m a huge fan. It was cause they did a whole thing on Scientology on like L. Ron Hubbard. It was like a four part podcast. Yeah, they went like deep on it too. It was crazy. It started as like a, literally like a science fiction book. And then now, it’s, you know, you’ve got Tom Cruise, and it’s nuts. Kind of like you want to be respectful, but it’s like, well, I don’t know. There’s like too many missing people to like really, you know. Where’s Shelly Miscavige, you know? I actually, yeah, no I do. Yeah, uh-huh. No, I, yeah. I have a podcast. It’s like not that intense though. We just kind of like argue about. It’s called “A Hot Dog is a Sandwich.” No. Let’s not start that fight now. I’m not saying it is or isn’t necessarily. We thought it was a cool catchy name ’cause it’s all about like food debates where we. Yeah, so it’ll be like stupid little questions even just like pepperoni or cheese pizza, you know? But yeah, no. And people actually listen to it. Yeah. Honestly, I don’t know why either. It’s like, I love NPR as much as the next person, but you know, I guess, yeah. People find some value in it and that’s all I can. No, it’s not on the radio. Like, you have to go. So like I made a podcast, it’s basically a radio show, but it’s like an on demand radio show. It’s like on the internet pretty much. Do you have Spotify? No? Like Apple, they have like a podcast app. And so you pretty much just go in and you can download it, or like you can just kind of stream it and listen to them. Yeah. We’ve put out a lot of episodes and hope it keeps going. We also make YouTube videos. Yeah. Your nephew watches? Mm-hmm, yeah. No, you can’t. Sorry, give me a second. Give me one second. You can watch it on like a TV, but it has to be like a smart TV. And do you? No, I don’t. You can’t get it on like the antenna TVs. Like, it’s on the internet, so again, it’s like a sort of on-demand TV thing. But yeah, we just kind of like cook food and hang out. It’s me and like my coworkers. It’s called “Mythical Kitchen.” No, it’s not like Greek myths. No, no, no. It’s the name of the company that I work for. It was started by these, they’re like big legendary comedians among like younger people. They’re called Rhett and Link. And they started something called Mythical Entertainment. And so I’ve been there for like a while, but we didn’t start making videos until like two years ago. And so, mm-hmm. No, they know what I’m talking about. It’s such a weird thing. It’s the way that like, media has been changing so fast. Honestly, I can’t keep up with it either, so. Mm-hmm. No, this is almost the exact same as like at my house. I’ll be like with my grandma, and you know, we have pretty much the same spread, except like y’alls get, you know, like cousin Jack will put some like cranberries and apples in the stuffing, and everyone’s like, . We all just try something new and we’re all just like, “Just play the hits, Jack.” I like the stove top, but no, yeah. So I feel very at home, so thank you. Yeah. I’m sorry, what? Why am I not married yet? It’s an ongoing conversation, let’s say. I was like, you know, kinda like what’s the rush? But no, I know. People are getting married so much later now and there’s pros and cons, of course. You know? ‘Cause part of me feels like, you know, if you can’t like, are you trying to like settle in LA? You know, what’s the deal with that? And so I figured, you know, why rush it? You know, we don’t need like a legal document to prove our love and all that. I know, yeah, times used to be different. Mm-hmm, yeah. No way? You’re 22? That’s so crazy. When I was 22, like I was just living in like my like bum college apartment where our only decorations were like empty Jager bottles. I can’t even imagine having a kid. I can’t imagine having a kid. They would have a really weird childhood. They would think that the only art that existed was like a “Pulp Fiction” poster. Yeah, no, everyone had that. It was like, “Pulp fiction” or “Boondock Saints.” And those were like the two posters that everyone had in college. I think we should bring them back. I think we should bring them back. No, come on. You’re lying. You’re lying. That didn’t happen. I refuse to believe. On an airplane? And no one, no one, like, there wasn’t. I don’t know, like, are there actually air marshals on airplanes? You think somebody would have stopped them like before it got to that point. That’s so crazy. Man. I’m way too scared to do something like that. I’m hurrying up, I’m hurrying up. I know, I know, the pie’s out of the oven. I’m fine. This is just so good, I can’t stop eating. I’m gonna save the dark meat for later. Can I take a bag? I put my own Ziploc bags in my pocket. Yeah. That’s like what I do I show up somewhere. I know, it’s weird. I think it would be a compliment though. Not to be like super gross with it, but. And I know, not a way to start a sentence during Thanksgiving dinner, but I read this the other day and I just thought it was really funny. Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, it’s actually the most busy day of the year for plumbers. Yeah. I know, no, no. I’m not saying like, that wasn’t me saying, like, I need to. No, I saw the bathroom on the way in. I wasn’t. I was just saying like, I think it’s funny. I’ll like stop at the public library on the way back. That’s what I like to do. That’s how I like to patronize libraries with my business. I don’t have a card, but I use their bathroom. You actually go to the library? Well, no, I shouldn’t be shocked. Like they’re there for you to use, but like, what do you do? Oh, okay, ’cause you don’t have a computer in the house. That makes sense. Limit your screen time. Do I think you could host a podcast? I think so. I mean, it’s tough to say ’cause like so many people, they have them. What would you talk about? What’s your passion? Uh-huh. You went for 20 years? I’m not in that. Like, I’ve heard there’s some good woodworking podcasts out there. I’m not in that space, so I don’t know. Like, I wouldn’t be able to like give you a diagram of who your competitors are, but no, but that’s the cool thing is that there’s so many niche interests on the internet. You can just sort of find somebody who’s into what you’re into, you know? Yeah, put it out there. It’s not hard to produce. You got an iPhone, you know, you can kind of put it out there. Mm-hmm, yeah. Honestly, I don’t. I don’t know if I’d let my kid play football. I think like flag up until they’re like old enough to really understand. It’s just we’ve seen all the data come out and it’s just crazy. But that said, like I was. Oh gosh. No, no, no, sorry. No, no, don’t. I got it, I got it. It’s my mess. I clean it up. It’s fine. It was bound to happen eventually. Uh-oh, yeah, right on the crotch, right on the crotch. I keep a Tide pen in the car for this reason. Yeah, I know. I’m so like, clumsy. But yeah. But, no, you gotta let your kids take risks though. I totally agree with that. I’m not saying, I’m not like a helicopter, you know, bubble wrap my kids type of person, but there’s like calculated risks and things that you can easily avoid, like, you know, flag football. I know it teaches toughness, you know, but I think there’s other ways that you can teach your kids mental toughness that you don’t have to prove it physically all the time. ‘Cause you know, I’m someone that grew up, like I really hated the culture around it and kind of found my own sort of sport. Yeah. Yeah, no, I get that argument. You know, a lot of people have been fairly great, successful, tough people without having to prove it by bashing their heads in everyday. But yeah, agree to disagree, I guess, you know? Oh, I’m stuffed. I’m stuffed. I think there’s a thing where your body doesn’t recognize how full you are for like 15 minutes. I watch a lot of competitive eating, which one, is a sport. They’re athletes. Like, have you seen them? Have you’ve seen Joe, he’s just like cramming them. No, you can’t watch. It’s like cheerleaders, ballroom dancers, and competitive eaters, they’re all athletes in my book and I don’t care what anybody says. Well, your body doesn’t recognize you’re full until like 15 minutes after you’ve eaten. That’s why on Thanksgiving, I just try and eat as fast as I can, you know? And then just kind of let it ride. Yeah, no, I’m gonna have. Yeah, I’m gonna have pie. Like, full is there’s the sweet stomach and the savory stomach. And so right now, like savory stomach, it’s completely full. It’s the sweet stomach though that needs replenishing. Yeah, no, thank you so much. I’ll stack it and I’ll help wash. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. I’ll keep the fork. You don’t need a new fork. Who am I? You don’t have to impress me. You’ve already done that with your green bean casserole. All right. I’m just kidding. You thought I was gonna do it? No, I’m like, I’m crazy, I’m not that crazy. Although people with like the cheddar cheese on the apple pie, I don’t know. People think I’d be into it. I’m not. It’s weird. It’s just like the cheese gets kind of sweaty. It’s crazy. We’re all gonna go around, say what we’re thankful for. We gotta do it, we gotta do it. It’s tradition. Come on. Okay, yeah, you go, you go, you go. I didn’t know there was gonna be another green bean casserole. I didn’t know. Like, I guess I should have asked, but I didn’t. Hmm. Oh. That’s a good one. That’s good. We can all be thankful for that. How did I get food there? Sometimes, I feel like I’m just a tornado when I eat. Well, I am thankful that I got to spend Thanksgiving with all of you beautiful people. Truly, I mean, it was really fantastic. I mean the one, the food was great. Your green bean casserole was better. I can completely, I’ll give you that one. Next year though, I’m coming back with a vengeance here. But no, I’m thankful that I have people who are willing to let me eat with them and share their space, and truly sort of experience the love and bounty that we have for Thanksgiving. I’m happy that I get to do something that I love every single day and show up with people that I love and spend time with them. You know, they say if you find something you truly love, you never work a day in your life. And I don’t know about that because I feel like I work pretty hard, but you know, no, it definitely holds true. And so I guess that’s what I’m thankful for. Yeah. And this pie. This is a sweet potato. It’s not pumpkin, right? Yeah, I prefer it. You don’t have to apologize. No, like literally, I’m telling you that, like, I don’t. Like, I love pumpkin pie, don’t get me wrong, but like sweet potato is like my preferred. Yeah. They were out? Yeah. Oh, that’s the problem. You went to Costco. I avoid Costco within like three weeks of Thanksgiving. Mm-hmm. God, I’ve tried to hold strong. It’s just not happening. We’re donezo. Hey. I told you, no, no, no. I told you I’d do the dishes. I brought a green bean casserole and you already had one. Like, I deserve. Stop it, put it down. Put the washcloth down. I’ll be there in a second. You want coffee, coffee, coffee, coffee? Gotcha.