Hey, I’m Drew Afualo and this is my first time eating a British Sunday roast. Everybody remembers their first time. Drew Afualo, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I’m excited to be here. There’s so many cameras. Team, they have a whole crew here. We have a lot of cameras and we have a lot of meat. That’s true. And that’s because you’ve never had a British Sunday roast before, but you have had some experience with British food. Tell me about the first time you had British food. Yeah, I just like, I terrorized them because I didn’t have a very good experience. I tried it four times and it was all bad. And so I was like, but I did have fish and chips in a pub and I was rocking with that. I really liked that. You did your diligence. You tried the thing. I tried four times. I tried! How many British people tried to convince you that you should like beans on toast? Because that’s their thing. They can’t believe that people don’t like it. I know, like thousands. And also, they were so mad at me about peas. I was like, don’t put one more pea next to my fry. Guys, we’re 86ing the peas. We’re 86ing the peas. No more peas! I can’t take it anymore. I was like, make all your food this, which is the fish and chips. I was like, make all of it this. Speaking of first things you’ve ever done, you wrote your first book. Yes. It’s called Loud: Accept Nothing Less Than the Life You Deserve. Yes. My favorite part about that is you refer to yourself as a tangible consequence, for bad men online. Most people know you for roasting bad men online, and it never really clicked the reason why until you use the phrase I am the tangible consequence, because so many men have acted without that tangible consequence for so long. When was the first time that a man tried to make you feel less than? The first time was probably the first, like, crush I ever had, when I was in probably like, kindergarten, first grade. I was a very large child. I was five four when I was ten. I remember I was like, in love with this kid in my class, and I used to like, write his name and my name together, and I finally told him, and he was like, oh, I like you too, and I was like, period. Got him. And then he told my friend at the time the same exact thing, and then he told me, well, I would like only you, but you’re too tall. Like, you’re taller than me and I don’t like that, and I was like, well, guess what? I don’t like you, and guess what? You’re ugly, and guess what? I hate you, but I was really mean immediately, and then I went home and cried, like a pimp, you know? Real pimps cry. Yeah. Alright, so we’re gonna get this roast started. We got some onions sitting in the bottom. The idea of a British Sunday roast is that people would go to church, and they would go for hours and hours and hours. This is back in literally dating to the 1400s. And they would just throw a giant cut of meat with a bunch of crap underneath it. Bunch of vegetables, parsnips, rutabagas, whatever you got. And then when they would come back from church, everything would be cooked. Okay. – There’s also other mix. – Oh, like a Crock-pot type situation. OG Crock-pot, except I imagine a ton of like medieval houses burn down all the time. Yeah, I can only imagine. They had plagues to worry about. So, we’re gonna start layering all of our stuff. We got onions, we’re gonna throw in some parsnips. Do you mess with parsnips? They’re like a carrot, right? Like they’re in the carrot family? Yeah, it’s kind of like a, like, worse carrot, is what I call it. Oh, is it a, is it sweeter, or is it? No, way less sweet, way more starchy, but there’s also this, what I can only call a farty tang. Oh, sorry, like a sort of. Josh, mmm. That sounds yummy. Am I good at selling food to you? I got no connection to the Brits, you know. I don’t need the cape for this. We’re also gonna drop some carrots on top. Tell me about the first time you realized that there was a power in clapping back. Probably, I wrote about this in my book, but like, one of the first times I ever like, physically put my hands on a man was like, when I was in middle school. And this guy, he did something to my sister that I didn’t like, and my sister didn’t like, she was very upset, and so, I beat him up, but, I did attack him. We’re talking like, MMA, getting the guard, ground him. Yeah, like, I, yeah, I literally ran up behind him, and I like, two hands shoved him to the ground, and I jumped on top, and I was like, I’m gonna kill you! And then I started. It was very like that scene in, Lilo and Stitch, when she jumps on Mertle, she starts just molly whopping her. That was me. Someone’s got to animate that for you. Yeah, yeah, that was me, but to a man. And then I got sent home. And I remember my mom asked me, like, she told me, like, just tell me what happened. So I explained what happened to my sister and why I did that. And then my mom was like, okay, well I’m proud of you for standing up for your sister. You’re never going to get in trouble for defending her. But my mom said, can I give you some advice? And I said, yeah. She said, don’t tell people you’re going to kill them because then it’s a crime. I was like, oh, tea. Tea. Mom’s looking out for the legalistic right here. Yeah. Do not make terroristic threats. Because I did tell him, I’m going to kill you. Do you hear me? I was telling him, I’m going to come to your house and I’m going to kill you. And I meant it. That’s the scary part. Yeah. I was being for real. First of all, I’m rubbing down this, if you couldn’t tell, I’m rubbing down a giant piece of meat. This is a sirloin roast. We’re rubbing it down in oil, salt, and pepper. We’re just going to throw it right on there. We’re going to pop that in the oven. Were there any surprises after writing your first book? Like, things you didn’t expect to come out of yourself? I wasn’t expecting to, for it to be so therapeutic, I think, in a lot of ways. Yeah. Because, I’m actively in therapy, but, you know, a lot of, some of the stuff I wrote about, I’ve, like, unpacked in therapy. And, you know, writing about it actually helped me unpack it even more. And, like, kind of, make more peace with it, and feel better about it. So, it was like, that was probably a part I wasn’t expecting to happen, but it was, it was wonderful. – Yeah. – Highly recommend. What was, what was the biggest, therapeutic, like result from it? Was there something specifically that you were like, oh, this is something that like I’ve never actually worked through? Yeah, there is a part in the book where I talk about my views on kids and like whether why I feel the way I do about having them and, there is a line that I wrote and I joke about this a lot, with my family and my team but like I wrote this line and I was, it made me really emotional when I wrote it, my own writing, but then I was like, I kind of ate that one line, like, she’s an author But I did write, I realized in that moment that I didn’t want to be a mom, I wanted to be my mom. And so like that was my confusion, I think, with wanting to be a mom. Well, thanks to my genius writing. So. – I mean, you are an. – Brilliant. And, like, you’re an incredible communicator and that was like your profession, right? You were in sports broadcasting or that was the original dream job. When was the first time you realized that sometimes your dream job isn’t your actual dream? Oh, that’s easy. When I got fired. Yeah. It’s a great way to realize it when they’re like, get the hell out of here. Yeah. When they ask you to leave immediately, nothing makes you go, maybe I should do something else when you get fired. Yeah. Me getting fired was. was really a hard reset for me. Also probably like a great way to, not that there’s any shortage of misogynistic men to get exposed to in the world, but like probably a great breeding ground for that, I’d imagine. Oh yeah, in sports, yeah. I mean, it was very, obviously a very, like tight knit boys club working there, like working in the NFL. Have you ever had Yorkshire pudding? No, I haven’t, but I heard they’re good. The Yorkshire pudding, to me, is like a really awesome culinary innovation. – Nice. – I think it’s really sick. So, what we’re doing right now, we have little tins in there. I got raw egg dripping around everywhere. You signed the anti-salmonella clause here. I didn’t. Drew didn’t sign the anti-salm paper? But it’s okay. Y’all have no shortage of money. I’ll just sue you. That’s great. Honestly, do it. Someone needs to. Better you than somebody else. But no, we got some beef tallow heating in these little pans right here. The idea is you make this like kind of loose batter, and then you pop that into like a super hot pan and it puffs up immediately and just rises. I watched the Great British Baking Show. Oh, you’re a pro then. Yeah. I’m into that show. Love it. I love that they have no prize. Yeah. They’re just like, I’m just here to bake. It feels very British. Yeah, like if that was in America, they’d have to kill each other or something. But in Britain, they’re like, let’s just bake for fun. They tried to do an American version, and it was hosted by Jeff Foxworthy. If you know who Jeff Foxworthy is. Who’s that? He’s like this, he literally was one of the original rednecks of comedy. Which is, you know, interesting first. When I think of them, I’m like, baking. Yeah, right? And Paul Hollywood came over and immediately. Oh, my guy, he’s my king. Immediately, two of the hosts like, had an affair with each other and like, just, it was an entire thing. Didn’t work. It was like we Americanized it so, so, so quickly Good for us. Way to go. All right. I’m gonna try and. I’m going to try and not mess this up. Okay. Especially with you in front of me. I’m nervous now. If you want to completely roast me for doing anything wrong, please. I could never. Oh my goodness. Are you kidding? You got a real positive energy about you. Oh god, we’re fine, we’re fine, we’re fine. No, we’re totally cool. We’re chilling. Just keep calm, man. I, you’re doing, you’re doing way better than I ever could, so. You gotta work fast. It’s gotta stay hot. I feel like I’m at a science museum, you know those ones where they put their hands in the tanks and they get to touch algae? Yeah, just don’t tap on the glass, I will try and break through and bite, it is what I do. It’s a self-defense mechanism, it just happens. Alright, these are going in the oven quick, going in the oven quick, gotta work quick, gotta work quick! Oh God, it’s like one of those egg in a spoon races. All right. Like Cutthroat Kitchen, have you ever watched that one? Where Alton Brown’s just like, you have to make a perfect beef wellington, except I’m going to strap you to a bed and tickle your feet. I’m going to put this bomb on your chest, good luck. Injecting a powerful neurotoxin into your blood. Yeah, good luck. Oh god, I think it’s technically part of the Saw franchise. Roasted potatoes. That’s what we’re doing next. Do you self identify as a potato girlie? Hell yeah. A carb girl. A starch. Hell yeah. Carbs and, I mean, hey, if you love carbs and starches, British food is where it’s at. We’re gonna get these infused with a little bit of, we got duck fat and we got beef tallow in there. If you wanna help me with this, this is like a Mythical Kitchen tradition. We did develop, I think, the world’s most efficient garlic crushing technique. It’s called the palm heel strike. Oh, okay. Very popular in Japanese mixed martial arts. You gotta take the strong part of your palm right here, and you wanna stack the elbow over the top, and then it’s just gonna be a quick. – Me not doing anything. – Drew, what happened? Me not doing anything at all. Hello? Hell yeah, we got it. I mushed it. Crack one more. Okay. The first one’s always the hardest. I’m. Hell yeah. Do you cook? No. Never really. I, every time I think I’m like, I can cook, I just like, don’t like it, I guess. I get bored, honestly. Yeah. I made like a vegan mac and cheese. for Thanksgiving because I have a very severe lactose intolerance. So as soon as we started putting those cashews in a blender, I was like, hey, I’m bored. Hey, I’m over it. We’re eating blended cashews for Thanksgiving now. My boyfriend loves to cook though, so like, he’s really good too. So he says I slow him down, so I sit down like I am right now and I yap. You’re great at yapping, he’s good at cooking. There you go, match made in heaven. That’s why I was like, I can sit here and entertain. I’m getting the Afualo home experience. There you go, exactly. All right, so you started your TikTok in 2020. Yes. During the pandemic. Do you remember the first thing that you bought with your money, like your first splurge purchase after you were like, oh snap, this is like a real career. I mean like, one of them was a bag. I do remember, I never thought I would ever be able to afford a designer bag. So I bought a bag, but I think the first like, for real one, I bought a car. Oh, snap. Yeah, I bought my first car. Do you remember the first date you went on with Pili? Went to the Orange County Fair. The OC Fair. Yep. Oh, that was my home fair growing up. Right? I do remember that was, he had been inviting me to it forever. I was ignoring him for a long time because he pissed me off about something. I can’t even remember what it was. I wish I could, because I’m sure it’s funny. But we went to the fair and we went as friends, initially. No one goes to the fair as friends. Yeah. You’re eating a fried pickle together? That’s romance right there. And we went as friends and he like, paid for everything. He was very nice and like, we knew each other since high school so we like, knew each other as friends. But then I remember at the fair I was like, nervous. And so I got drunk. Like I got so drunk like just sitting here and I was like, I was about to ask you when’s the first time you got thrown out of a county fair, but I guess this. Yeah, like two birds, one stone, same story. Yeah, I remember I got really drunk and I thought I was keeping it real cool I was like he doesn’t know that i’m hammered right now And I do remember too when we went to the fair we ran into a buddy of his that he knew, like, through football. It was so strange because the next day he hung out with that same guy and he was like, did you meet her on Tinder? And then my boyfriend goes, Drew? No, I’ve known her since high school. And he was like, oh, okay. I was just curious. Probably a few days later, I got, like, you know on Tinder, they used to have, like, super like things on Tinder and it would tell you a million times, like, oh, you have a super like, you have a super like, you have a super like. I was scrolling through to get rid of it and it was his buddy. And he had super liked me. So, that’s why he thought we met on Tinder. And I was like, isn’t this your friend from the other night? And he goes, do you care if I make fun of him for it? And I was like, yeah, I don’t care. And then, now look at us, seven years later. That was when you were instantly bonded. Yeah, we’re like, you wanna torture men too? Period. Do you remember the first moment when you realized, after that first date, that like, oh, this might be, like, the one? He was just very intentional. Like, he was very like, I wanna see you tomorrow. And I was like, damn! Okay, fine, what time? Like, that’s what I kept saying. Okay, what, like four? Okay, sounds good. He was just so intentional with me, and so, like, I really want to see you, I want to hang out. And so, I remember one time I kind of, like, fibbed a little bit because I got nervous. I was like, this feels like it’s getting serious and I need to, like, not. I was supposed to text him what time to meet me to go to practice with my little brother because he was in Pee Wee Football at the time. I never texted him because that felt too serious. I was like, well, now we’re involving family, and, so I lied and said I fell asleep and forgot to text him. And then when he saw me, he was like, you didn’t forget. And then I said, I just felt bad. I didn’t want you to have to feel forced to do anything you didn’t want to do. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, I don’t do anything I don’t want to do. So, if I tell you I want to see you, it’s because I want to see you. And I was like, damn! That’s hard. You want me so bad. You’re like literally in love with me, okay. Fine. All right, so we took all the drippings from here. We toasted up the flour in it to make the base of the gravy. We’re adding in stock. I’m gonna add in a little bit of kitchen bouquet, browning and seasoning sauce. Sure. Nobody likes brown foods like the British. That was so much. Dude, I thought there was a stopper on it. If you wanna take a shot, go for it. I’m interested to look at it. Oh, that’s perfect. It’s so brown. We got the potatoes roasting. Are you getting hungry, dude? Yeah, it smells, it smells really good. Drew, here you got it, your first ever full Sunday roast. I can throw the peas in the trash if you’d like. No, I definitely want to try them. So I’m going to carve up this lovely sirloin roast, but tell me about your first major accomplishment and how it made you feel. I think my Senior year of college, I had to do, like, in my journalism capstone class, I had to do, like, a long form narrative piece. I had to follow someone for, like, three months-ish. And, I wanted to do mine on Tua Tagovailoa. Because he was huge at the time. And so, I really wanted to profile him, and, everyone, that doubted me was like, well he doesn’t talk to anyone, their family’s very private. Which I knew, but he’s Samoan, I’m Samoan, I kind of figured I’d lean heavy into that. And it worked, I actually got to go to Alabama and I watched his first, like, A-Day game and spent a lot of time with his family, went to church with them, did all that stuff. And I got to write my own piece, and that was the first time I felt like, really accomplished because I was, everyone told me I couldn’t do it. They said I couldn’t do it, and I came out on top and that story is actually what got me my job at the NFL, so. Wait, that is actually an incredible piece of your lore that I had no idea about Yeah, my, the lady who hired me at the NFL was born and raised in Tuscaloosa, so she’s a big Alabama fan. And his like, you know, rookie season at Alabama, I got to be a part of it. So, it was very, very cool. Can I serve you some Game of Thrones ass beef? Please do. I’m gonna eat like a viking right now. Yeah, no, no forks necessary whatsoever. Hold on, I’m gonna grab you. You gotta put the yorkie next to it. Gotcha. I’m gonna just serve you with the knife. We’re doing this, dude. Get some onions on there. I do love an onion. You gotta flood the whole thing with gravy. Parsnips, the best part of the entire meal. Do you like me to flood your plate with gravy or would you like to flood yourself? I could do it. Please. I want to see you go. Okay. Tea. Put it on the pud too, I assume. The pud. Not the pud. I’m trying to, I’m trying to be part of your culture. British people. Forgive me for what I said about a breakfast. All right. Peas. Oh yeah, I’ll take some. You gotta get some. Some extra butter on the peas. Wherever’s. Are you getting like flashbacks of the peas? They really do eat like it’s World War II. I’m a little confused. That was their peak. That was when they were like, we did it, y’all. They eat like they’re rationing in the streets. Like the polio vaccine hasn’t come out yet. I wanna like cheers our plates. Oh my goodness. Can we do that? Yeah, cheers. Damn, dig in. To the Brits. I’m gonna do the meat first. Yeah, yeah. Me pretending I use knives at home. That’s delicious. That gravy’s fire. The gravy makes it. The entire cuisine is very gravy based. I’m gonna try this potato. That’s fire. That’s the star. Make your food this. Y’all are on to something with that. That’s really good. You try the yorkie yet? Not yet, no. Is there any, like, science to it, or you just kind of bite it? Oh, you just bite it, like, tear it off. The outsides get, like, nice and crusty, and the insides are, like, kind of like floppy and wet. Well, I’m rocking with that. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I forgive you Brits. For ruining my British breakfast experience. I forgive y’all. Dude, there’s one more first we gotta talk about. And that is your first ever Instagram photo that you posted. I’m terrified. You need to answer for it. You know what, I’m really glad I, can I be honest about something? When I blew up, I cleaned my Instagram. I’m so glad I did, cause that was not my first post. Do you remember what the real one was? No. I dressed as an Avatar, like the blue people, for Halloween. I’m a big Halloween girl. And I literally, I was late to school because I painted myself blue. And I walked around all day like that. I know you’re wondering, was it hot? Yes, of course it was. And I sweat almost all of the paint off on the lower half of my face. And I still thought I was like killing it. I was like, why does it look so good? I need to take a picture. And I took a selfie and that was my first picture. And when I saw it, I said, delete. Drew, you have been an incredible guest and your book is incredible. Everybody check out Loud: Accept Nothing Less Than the Life You Deserve. Seriously, a huge congrats. Thank you so much. Thank you for this delicious meal. Brits, I forgive you. Josh redeemed y’all, okay? Y’all took home gold. Britain, you owe me. Let me come over there and, I don’t know, get some free healthcare or something. Whatever else you’re known for. Let me know if you’re down. And thank you all for liking, subscribing, all that stuff. We got more episodes coming out. We’re going to keep eating this beef with our hands. Great job palm heel striking, by the way. Oh my gosh, thank you. I’ve practiced a lot on the men in my life. We’ll see y’all next time. Face the reality of mortality head on with our new Last Meals hat and tee. Available now at mythical.com