Hey, wanna argue about something dumb? Yeah, kinda. This is a Hot Dog is a Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is Welcome to our podcast how hot dog is this sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host Josh Ayer and I’m your host Nicole Inaite and today I’m wearing a type of shirt that I’ve never worn in four years of this podcast and it’s freaking Nicole out. You guys don’t know Like is it disarming? This shirt is disarming to me. Disarming would mean that you feel somewhat, like, charmed by me. And that your normal defense as a human are not up. It’s the opposite of that. Oh my god, I’m so My defenses are all It’s I am alarmed. It is not I don’t know who this man is. You’re like when a small child Who’s man is this? Like when a small child sees his Father dressed up as Dracula for Halloween and doesn’t quite have the permanence to understand this is still my father. Or whenever a dad has a beard and then you shave the beard. This is what’s happening to me right now. I’m a three year old and you’re the dad that shaved his beard. Yeah. I don’t like it. I’ll tell you what happened. This was a prop for a shoot that we did and the only shirt that I brought, I spilled a large quantity of teriyaki sauce on during lunch. That’s right. So here we are. I think I look pretty rad. Comment below. I think you look like an extra from Dawson’s Creek. The shirt is a long sleeve flannel button down from the Target clothing boutique. Yes, it has, um, burgundy, navy and, uh, Eggshell. Eggshell. Eggshell, um, checks in a plaid pattern. And I feel very strange. I feel like a new person. But it goes It’s great that I feel like a new person, because we’re arguing about something that we’ve never argued about before. Which is shocking. It is shocking, because people have said that you’ve argued about every single thing in food, um Alas, we have found one more argument! Ha ha ha, the podcast survives another week! Woo! Today we are arguing about breakfast vs. lunch vs. dinner, or as I want to call it Is breakfast really the most important meal of the day? Because that’s the old adage that we all grew up learning. But if we’re talking about that, we gotta talk about what is the most important. Is it lunch or dinner? BLD, baby. BLD. Um, uh, what is it? Chris Angel, C A B L P. Yeah. Chris Angel’s breakfast, lunch, pizza. RIP, man. Henderson, Nevada. The greatest restaurant that never was. You have a poppy seed in your tooth. Can I help you take it out? It’s not a poppy seed. It’s an elderberry. Smile. Where is it? Do you want to? Oh no, she’s actually plucking it from my teeth. That is No, it’s still in my mouth. Oh, I hate what just happened. New level of friendship unlocked! The importance of breakfast. Why is breakfast considered important? I eat it almost every day. If you eat breakfast, you’re a peasant. Well, hold on. There’s an old adage that says, Eat breakfast like a king. Eat lunch like a worker bee and eat dinner like a peasant. Okay, well, describe, describe why that phrase exists. I’ve heard that too. Because, because at breakfast, you know, you’re breaking your fast, you need to eat plentifully, you know, you’re going to go and you’re going to work, you’re going to be awake for the next gosh knows how many hours. Lunch, you’re a little bit more peckish, you’re just there to like kind of satiate yourself. And then dinner, you’re going to sleep soon. So why eat so much? And so there’s, there’s two ways this argument could go, right? It’s like, nutritionally, what does your body actually want and when? Which we are not registered nutritionists or dietitians. We’re both studying for it. I watch so many TikToks from them. I feel like I should be. I don’t want to ever study that. Yeah, eat more Oreos, drink YooHoo. Like, I could do that. You know what I mean? Literally, eat raw testicles. You know, that’s It’s like, uh, what they do on there. I was watching Liver King the other day. Oh, he’s in rough shape, he might have fallen off a little. He’s in rough shape. Well, he was on such a ridiculous amount of steroids that even pro bodybuilders are like, this is too many steroids. Wow, that’s saying something. That is saying something. But no, there’s the nutritional route, and then there’s just like, what foods are actually the best that are typically correlated to those meals? Sure. And I have thoughts about both. Nutritionally, this whole eat breakfast like a king, the idea is that you are generally going to be awake for like, what are people awake for, like 15 hours? I think people are awake for 15 to 17 hours. Yeah, yeah. You’re active, your metabolism is moving quicker, so the idea is you eat early in the day and that food is going to be put to good use. More towards energy. Yes. Right. Then as you eat later day, your metabolism does shut down. I mean, do you not completely, but like it does stop, right? Oh, it doesn’t shut down, but it’s it’s significantly slows down. That’s right. Um, have you felt like there are a lot of things in your old age now that have really affected you differently? I’m 31. That’s older than you were previously. Now is the oldest point in your life. Do you feel like there are things? Why do you have to rub it in? That’s so mean. There’s a new trigger for me. What? I can’t eat big meals before bed, baby. Me either. Oh my god. Let me tell you, I used to be the biggest fan of dinner. I loved going out. I loved entertaining. Like you don’t get it. Like I used to love going to dinner with like maybe up to one to four other people and just getting a platter of stuff. stuff just to eat and taste and nosh and talk. I can’t. If we have dinner plans at nine, I can’t do it anymore. I need to get out of it. That res is 6 30, baby. Yeah, I’m spending the next four hours digesting. Yeah, I literally went to a Brazilian steakhouse with my mom, dad, brother and sister in law, David and I. We started at six. We left at 7 45. We were able to digest the food. If I was if I started at eight o’clock, I would have been Miserable. I completely agree. So that’s the idea. You eat like a smaller, the old adage of breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Society What does important mean? I would say, and I think a lot of this comes from, um, you know, as a time when, you know, the world was industrializing, right? And people were suddenly like working in factories, you know, and they weren’t connected to like the farm. Like a lot of the reason we eat eggs for breakfast is because farmers had plenty of them. And before like the late 1800s, a majority of people just lived on farms because that’s how society was. Yes, they were eating gruel. Yeah, but like, so a lot of these rules that we, you know, Have heard of, um, a lot of the societal norms that we think of from even dating back to, like, ancient Rome, the Middle Ages, uh, ancient Greece. A lot of it’s coming from, like, the upper crust. Sure, yes. So there did used to be this idea that breakfast was for peasants. Because they’re like, I’m kingly and royal. I have no reason to work. I don’t need fuel. I don’t need fuel to get up. Yeah, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. But then like in ancient Rome, they had something called like, uh, intaculum, which typically breakfast was, uh, barley bread that was dipped in wine. You’d eat a couple of olives, whatever you had on hand, but it was just something that was necessary to fuel your day. And then we sort of found ourselves where more and more people needed those necessary calories to fulfill their like factory jobs. Yes. Right. Right. And so we even see like. A lot of weird modern breakfast foods like we’ve talked before about the PR war for bacon. Sure, we’ve talked about that. In the early 1900s, like, bacon only became a breakfast food because there was a surplus of pork bellies and then you get rid of orange juice. It’s the same thing how it became a breakfast juice. Surplus of oranges in the early 1910s. And so a lot of these customs like are very new. And I think we are in the point, Nicole, where we can rewrite our own customs. I’m ready to decolonize my brain of thinking eggs are only breakfast foods, okay? I’m over it. I’m over it. Because isn’t there, there’s a great dish called titko, right? Thit khol, yep. It’s an braised egg and pork belly dish. Pork deli bish. Pork belly dish. Pork belly bish! And it’s so damn delicious. And it’s sweet and it’s savory. It’s Thai? Is it Thai? No, thit khol is Viet. Vietnamese. And it is so damn delicious. And my whole life Braised eggs? I’ve been told eggs need to be only for breakfast. No way, Jose. I want to eat that for lunch and dinner. It’s so delicious. Thit Kha is, so I’ve grown up eating Thit Kha and like, making it, it’s pork belly, uh, the eggs, they’re boiled eggs, and you braise it all together, and like, typically add some, um, like it’s called Nuoc Mao, or like, fish sauce caramel, but the secret ingredient is a soda called Coco Rico. Yeah, that’s right, Coco Rico! I, at least in America, in American recipes, I assume Coco Rico was maybe Filipino that made its way to Vietnam because of the Spanish influence in the name, or even just a Vietnamese soda that was named But what was it? It’s like, it’s Puerto Rican, dude. Oh, LOL. Inexplicably, a Puerto Rican soda has become endemic to this Vietnamese, at least the Americanized version of this Vietnamese dish, and I think it’s hilarious. But, your point reigns, and if you look at Vietnam and how breakfast typically functions, pho Pho! It is a breakfast food, and so all these ideas that we have, what’s a breakfast food, what’s a lunch food, what’s a dinner food, we do not have to be beholden to them whatsoever. I will eat pancakes for dinner. I mean, congee, right? Congee is like an incredible broken rice dish that’s typically eaten for breakfast, but for us Americans, it’s oatmeal, right? Yeah, it’s the same thing. It’s a gruel. It’s a gruel. I like gruel! Gruel! The world runs on gruel. Gruel rules! Okay, well, let’s think about this and let’s think about this then what let’s analyze breakfast How much joy do you get from eating early in the morning? So I recently stopped so I used to be a person that would Only drink coffee, so I’d get up at like 7, I’d make myself a coffee, I had an espresso, this is pre Nicole, this is Nicole like a year ago, an espresso with 2 percent milk or hemp milk, with like a homemade vanilla syrup, and then I wouldn’t eat anything until I would get to work at 9, and then at 9 10 I would make myself two eggs, with a, with a, Big ass piece of toast buttered and then cheese and I would just love that was like my life. I was like hell Yeah, breakfast is served. Oh, it’s a hot sauce But now um, I do I don’t always eat breakfast, but I do like protein powder in my coffee Which helps satiate me, and I also do collagen peptides, which who knows what the heck that means. And, I got an espress I got an espresso machine instead of an espresso machine, so like I There’s a whole ritual to like making myself a coffee, and then I You got an espresso machine, not an espresso machine. Exactly, yeah. An espresso. An espresso. I have a, I have An espresso. Versus an espresso. The shirt’s giving you too much confidence. I have a I got an espresso machine. I used to have an espresso machine but now I have an espresso machine. I did it. I did it. It took me a second. But yeah, and I do that, and then I put my protein powder, my collagen peptides, and then maybe I eat a hard boiled egg, and that’s it. And I love my breakfast. I refuse to take joy from foods eaten during the daylight. Oh no, and then I also have avocado. I, like, have like a quarter of an avocado, and I’m just set for life. There’s a cap there’s a ceiling to the amount of joy. I’m willing to have if I’m like I’m like on a workday Why is that? I want to save it all I’m a big like Delayed delayed gratification kind of guy so every morning 5 5 30 in the morning rip a protein bar. Nobody likes it tastes like chalk I eat it in the car drink pre workout go to the gym grind for two two and a half hours come to work make a Protein shake that I’ll enjoy the taste of these things roughly. I don’t hate your protein shake Delightful. It’s just blueberries, protein powder, Greek yogurt, put a little bit of salt in there. It’s gonna taste nice. But like, there’s never a scenario on a weekday where I am trying to take pleasure in food before, I think literally before I like, go home. If I’m cooking at work, it’s like, and there’s something fun that I want to eat, sure. But it’s different than like once all of your obligations for the day are done, and you’re like, finally, now I feast. Interesting. And I don’t like eat spartan. I’ll eat things that I roughly enjoy. But then I feel like there’s a point at which I’m missing out on Eggs benedict I think is one of the world’s great foods. Yeah, I love eggs benedict too. A lot of grungy things. But so much effort, but like see this is the thing. Do you think effort is correlated to enjoyment all the time when it comes to breakfast? I don’t think so. No, not at all. But what I’m saying is I think we need to completely Decouple we are in a post historical period, right? I don’t know what that means. We’ve conquered God We have VR goggles Nicole five years from now five years from now. The VR is gonna be a Contact lens touch our yeah, and then like ten years from now. It’s gonna be brain implants. There is no God There is no objective reality. There is no breakfast lunch and dinner. All we have are the Various butter and egg emulsions that we like to put on cured meats and little discs of dough that have been cooked Okay So we need to completely decouple the idea that any food is correlated breakfast any food is correlated lunch any food correlated to dinner That way I can fully optimize my life. Have you ever had an omelet for dinner? It’s not that good. It is better It’s better A Denver omelette? I will go to Barn I don’t mean, I don’t like Denver omelettes in general. I don’t like the bell peppers. Okay, so what’s your favorite omelette? Chili cheese omelette from the Barney’s Beanery. Chili cheese omelette? I will go to the Barney’s Beanery. The sports dive bar in Los Angeles. And I will rip a chili cheese omelette at 11 at night while drinking a couple of Barney’s Beanery lagers. And I have a great time. Your farts must be wild. You’ve ingested a lot more of them than you want to believe right now. You think about the amount of spiders that you’ve eaten while sleeping? It pales in comparison to the amount of farts that you have breathed in in this room, and I’m sorry. In this room? You’ve, of course. You crop dusted me in this room? There’s no dusting because it absorbs, I can’t believe you did that to me. It absorbs into the seat cushion. Why, because of the wood? It’s like farting on an airplane. It doesn’t smell. Everybody knows that. Why am I the bad guy here? Oh my god. Okay. I can’t believe you. Eating in the morning, I think inherently Takes away from the experience. Breakfast, most important meal of the day. But aren’t you hungry in the morning? Do you wake up in the morning hungry? No, never. I do! You don’t wake up hungry? No. I wake up hungry. I could like delay eating until like one in the afternoon if I really wanted to. Oh no, no, no, no, no. My brain goes dizzy. Really? Like my tummy gets, it gets hurty. I need to eat a food. I must eat a food. If I don’t eat a food, it’s bad news bears. Do you think the breakfast really is the most important meal of the day? For me, at this point of my 31 year old life, I need breakfast to set the tone for the rest of my day. Interesting. I need it, yeah. How much pleasure? Because we have like, again Life’s not all about pleasure! It’s not, it’s not, but I’m saying, I’m saying food is It can no longer be hedonist in this life, Josh. It’s 2024, the VR goggles are doing the hedonism for us. We’re involved in the culinary arts, right? Okay, so arts. No, no, but I’m saying like, no other art. is necessary to human survival like the culinary arts. It’s really annoying. Things are Actually frustrating. Things are important. Music, dance have been around hundreds of But like, you don’t need to listen to music to physically survive. You need to eat food to survive. So we are in this weird dichotomous Music is my language. Oh god. But dichotomous thinking, right? Where you have like this big, Pleasure in art and culture and then like survival and necessity and performance. Okay. Right. And then where we find them meeting is to me like a very interesting thing. For me, they meet in like a pollo asado burrito. Okay. It’s one of my favorite foods in the world. It gives me so much joy to eat and make one. Uh, a little bit less than carne asada burrito, but chicken’s healthier for you than beef, according to my personal beliefs. But also it’s got 60 grams of protein and is within the like caloric range that I want to be eating for most meals. Right? So to me, that’s like this beautiful intersection. So I’m saying like, where do you manage that for your breakfast? How much joy do you take from it versus how much performance do you expect? Honestly, I’m just happy to be alive another day. So I guess that’s where my pleasure is coming from. Like I get to eat this egg. I’m so lucky that I woke up today and I get to eat this. It’s kind of beautiful. You gotta find happiness and joy wherever you can nowadays. Breakfast for you is objectively probably the most important, you’d say. I said that, yeah, if you’re listening. I’m reiterating for the audience. You’ve iterated, I’m reiterating. They’re listening, they’re listening. Trying to track. Lunch. Lunch. Don’t eat it, makes me slower. Don’t eat it. Don’t eat it, right? Don’t eat it. Don’t eat it. Do you see what I did? You threw most of your lunch away. I mean, Nicole gave her lunch away to people and didn’t waste any food. Why’d you do that? I gave it to you. I was, I, I think I’m a little nauseous right now, which is weird. It wasn’t serving you. Well, I wasn’t serving you. Okay, I was a little nauseous. Are you okay? Are you going to get sick? I don’t know. I’m a little, my tummy hurts a little bit. You’re worried about breathing in my farts. I’m breathing in your disease. I breathe in your disease. I ate half my lunch because if I eat a whole lunch during the day, again, old man, I’ve learned that it just makes me slower and I can’t think as much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is why lunch, we’re nixing out of the equation, right? Not important. I think it’s important sometimes. I think it depends on what you’re doing all day. Like, if you’re sitting at a desk, you should eat lunch. But it doesn’t need to be like a big, dramatic lunch. No, like a girl, like a girl dinner lunch version. Girl dinner, semi colon, lunch disordered eating? I don’t like to view things in terms of like, normative binaries, right? Disordered, ordered. Again, which just. It’s just how we are. People should eat. People should eat. 100%. People should eat. But I’m saying like, when you actually break down the importance of a meal and ranking them. Breakfast first, lunch last, dinner. Well, Josh, let me just say on my laptop. What do you mean by important? We need food to survive. There’s performance and then there’s art. There’s performance and then there’s culture. Take art out of it. Art’s smart. You need it to survive. No, I know, eat enough, handful of nuts, handful of nuts will get you through a lot, right? Big handful, oh god, I’m just an almond mom, but guys. You are, you’re being an almond mom right now. I eat so much food. You do. Right? But I’m saying, once you get to dinner, to me. Dinner’s more important. So let me tell, let me tell you. Yeah. So breakfast is more important than dinner, is more important than lunch, is that right? Breakfast, perform. Lunch, perform. Dinner! Enjoy no, that’s where I go on a day to day. No, no, no, you should enjoy all of them and enjoy all of them Breakfast is an a Lunch is a C and dinner is a B minus Does that make sense? I think dinner is where you like can actually like commune with fellow man, right dinner to me is like that’s where I Decompress my entire day. I’m I’m giving it It belies the natural importance of dinner to me by far God put me on earth to eat breakfast that morning. Thank you god. I love you. Thank you so much. I appreciate it lunch I’m at work. I hate everybody I work with whatever dinner I’m making it for my husband that I love so much, but i’m so damn tired Breakfast burritos taste best at 9. 45 p. m. Ew, I disagree with you a hundred percent. Alright, Nicole. We’ve heard what you and I have to say. Now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe. It’s time for a little segment we call OPINIONS ARE LIKE CASSEROLES! Fully ghosted. Sick. Alright, let’s see what other Hello, my name is Evan. I live in Canada. So excited to hear what you’re gonna say. You know, there’s these people in my life, like my sister, my mom, they always say soda is the best after you eat chocolate. Interesting. And I heavily disagree. It tastes disgusting. There’s no flavor left. If you eat chocolate and then drink soda after, it doesn’t have any flavor after, it’s just fizzy water. Anyway, that’s my opinion. Love the podcast keep doing what you do. Well, what if I told you call her from Canada whose name? I don’t remember might be Evan. Is it Evan? Jotenhoser? Evan or Kevin? I hope that’s not a slur. Kevin? Evan. Evan. I love the name. Evan from Canada. We are going to test you a little theory now We have some Reese’s peanut butter cups and Nicole has a Sprite and I have a coca cola It’s pronounced coca. Is that what the animal is? A coca? Cuaca. Cuaca. Um, you know what? I hate the genre. Let me grant and for two seconds the type of person online Evan’s complaining about his mom’s sister. I’m complaining about people the people online who like they’ll show a cute animal video and it’s like a quokka smiling and be like Actually, did you know that quokkas only do that when they’re in extreme pain? it’s like We let me just we have no idea. Let me just put a little bit of a human like, uh, yeah thing anthropomorphize. Yeah, just Anthropomorphize. Yeah, let me anthropomorphize in peace. So eat the candy and then You Yeah, I think I know what he’s talking about. I think I know exactly why it happens It’s the same reason why if you eat a drink like a wine that has blackberry nuts And then you eat a piece of wild boar that has a blackberry sauce on it The next step of that wine is not gonna taste like blackberries. Do I drink now? Yeah, it’s a sprite zero coated It’s a sprite zero. Can we switch? It tastes less good. The soda tastes less good after chocolate I know where your mom and sister are coming from Where your mom’s sister coming from is that chocolate is rich and sweet and fatty Well, you probably want is something acidic and bright to sort of cut that it will cleanse your palate and it will there’s carbonic acid In soda, there’s also a ton of sugar and citric acid I will say the coca cola with the Reese’s is quite a delicious combination It does taste less coca cola II well Maybe so happy because you’re eating a Reese’s and drinking a coke two of the most perfect pair Consumer package goods ever made. Amen. Um took me a while to love Reese’s but now I’m like really so I think it’s because my dad liked them as I wanted to rebel Wow, man, we all turn into our fathers eventually, you know what I mean? I’m totally turning into my mom and that rocks You’re kind of becoming your palate is becoming desensitized to the sugar of the coke, uh with the sugar of the chocolate So basically like nothing will ever taste as good as your say first bite of candy It’s going to taste the sweetest because you haven’t had that in a while So when you taste the sweet from the candy You drink the coke, it’s gonna neutralize some of that sugary taste. Right. You know? Um, that said, you are also getting the carbonic acid and the citric acid and just that fizz to sort of like wash everything out, making the next bite of Reese’s taste even better. So I understand both of your points and I think you should just be happy that you have a loving family. They may have other faults that you don’t like, but call back and tell us about those. I liked the combination of Coke and Reese’s more than I did the Sprite Zero and the Reese’s. Do with that information what you will. The chocolate kind of tastes like plastic, but I like it. But it’s good plastic. It’s not bad plastic. I like chocolate plastic flavor more than cheese plastic flavor. Does that make sense? A hundred percent. Okay. Hi Josh and Nicole, this is Lyndon from Calgary, Alberta. Canada! Canada! I love you both, you’re amazing, love the podcast, keep it up. I’m married! I’m married! I just wanted to tell you guys that Chili Crisp and Feta is a killer combo for pasta. I bet it is! I used rigatoni. Okay, love ya. Don’t change. One. I’m married! Love you buddy. Two, love your pronunciation of pasta because we should be pronouncing it more like pasta than pasta. Did you watch Pearl? No. No! I’m married! Okay. Pearl is It’s, um, Mia Goth. I love Mia Goth. Um, this is a great opinion. I loooove Shirley Cristin. I loooove FedEn. Mixing that with pasta, yum, yum in my tum. So when British people hear us say the word pasta, they internalize an R. Cause Brits say pasta. Pasta. And it is probably closer to the Italian pasta. They think we’re saying parsta. Yeah. They think we’re saying parsta. Because the R, the non rhotic R, has our effect of where we would likely put in an H to transliterate. Like when they say Pamela Anderson? Yeah, well it depends on your regional accent, where you’re from, whether you rhoticize the R or not. But yeah. But like, Roticize the R? The Ruh, Ruh, that is a very unique, the Rotic R is very unique to the American English accent. But some other cultures also do have it, and some accents coming from Great Britain do have a Rotic R. What does that have to do with anything? Well, I’m just saying, I love his pronunciation of pasta. It’s pasta. I like saying pasta. I’m going to start saying pasta. Okay. It’s a channel and pasta. Channel. Channel. It’s an east Anyways, the point is that is a very good combination of foods. I’m down. I’m down. Where do you think that like lands it on? It’s kind of a perfect intersection of like European flavor because that, that feta is like a very unique European cheese flavor, typically Eastern Europe. Well, do you think they’re using like Valbrazo, like sheep’s milk feta in water? They’re probably using the Athena brand feta crumbles. I think so. But you hit that Athena brand feta crumbles, little bit of pasta water, do you think they’re just topping pasta with feta and chili crisps? I would like to think they’re making some sort of pseudo sauce with the asian pasta. You probably don’t want the sauce because the sauce is, the wet is going to make the chili crisps less crisp. I’ve cooked chili crisps down in sauce. You’re not always trying to get the crisp part of the chili crisps. It’s also for flavor. But it’s also going to break down the feta to where you don’t get those crumbles and also feta is never going to, Dissolve truly so high. Yeah, but you don’t want to completely dissolve. You want it to melt a little bit What I do is I’d make like a simple Butter pasta water emulsion not even serve it wet serve it like a little dry feta chili crisp toss That’s a hell of a combo food sesame oils like almost a little bit clashy with the feta But in a way that I think I’d really I’d like it. I think I would be all about Yeah, do you start start spamming chili crisp on stuff? You’ll be surprised Maggie, one more! One more. Bye bye, one more. Hey, Josh and Nicole. My name is Allie, and I am from Southwestern Virginia. I have a hot face, and my fiancé thinks it’s nasty. I love a tortilla, spread some peanut butter on there, a banana, some sort of jelly, and some kind of spicy, crunchy element. Hell yes. Like a spicy chip, or a fried jalapeno that you can get at the store. Oh, incredible. Even in a normal peanut butter and jelly, I need some sort of spicy chip inside. I’m into it. Just wanted to know what your take was on that. I don’t think it’s that odd because there are so many spicy peanuts in dishes. Oh, love you guys. Oh, I like this. This makes sense. The peanut butter is so fatty and the jelly is sweet and the banana, you know, has that yummy banana, yeah, yeah, that funkiness. And then a little bit of jalapeno chips, the little ones that you get, you top on salads. I love that. What jalapeno chips are you talking about? Cause y’all said that like it was a thing I should know about. Cause I feel like I’d really love it. So, it’s these things you can buy, they’re like in a pre pack, they’re pre packaged. It’s like the French’s fried onions almost, but jalapenos? Almost, yeah, yeah, yeah. They’re like these flat jalapeno flavored like pieces of flour, I guess, that are just crisped up. Damn. And they’re really good, and I always have them on deck. I throw them in salads, I put them on top of pizza sometimes. They’re really, really good. You know, I love about what she did. She did a thing that I love doing where you’re taking these foods and these assumptions that people have and you’re almost breaking them down into their like platonic forms. It’s like, why would it be weird to put a spicy chip on this sandwich if you would eat happily a spicy peanut that is probably using a very similar flavor profile to something like a spicy chip, right? Because then the only other thing you’re getting in there is like, Likely crispy corn, which is lovely, adding a little textural element to that. Corn? Where did corn come from? Well, if you’re talking about a corn chip. She always likes chips. I don’t know if she’s talking about jalapenos and whatnot. Um, but I fully agree with you. You’re like taking the individual elements of food. That’s actually how a chef thinks about a dish, right? Like here’s one flavor combination. There’s a lot of thoughtfulness in this. Big time. And then you’re sort of changing the vessel on it to create a unique product. I think your fiance is weird. Also, I will say, um, Virginian Mexican food. They’ve invented something incredible. It’s the perfect combination of mayonnaise and water that they call Salsa Blanca. There’s more than mayonnaise and water. You know about Salsa Blanca? Look up Salsa Blanca, Virginia. It’s like apparently served at, it might be a very specific region of Virginia, but apparently it is served at a lot of restaurants like alongside like a Salsa Fresca or, or whatever they would serve with chips. Nice. Yeah, Virginia white sauce salsa, oregano, garlic, cumin, crushed red pepper, and then is the rest just mayonnaise? It is muy blanco. Muy blanco. Muy blanco. Miracle whip, milk, spices. And crushed red pepper. God bless. So you come from a very culinarily inclined region, and that has obviously rubbed off on you. And I love that opinion. Also, that’s my favorite pre workout snack. Salsa Blanca. Yeah, I mix it with my C4 Ultimate Explode. No, a little banana. That’s a treat, man. You toast it up, get the peanut butter a little bit melty, Slurp down that banana, and now I’m gonna start putting a little bit of spicy chippy inside. I’m happy for you. You deserve to be happy. That sounds creepy, Ben. What do you know that I don’t? It’s like when my cat starts meowing at the wall. so much for tuning in to a Hot Dog Eating Sandwich! Audio only episodes come out on Wednesday. And if you love seeing our beautiful shiny faces while talking, you can see us live every single Sunday. If shine isn’t sweat, it’s actually olive oil that exudes from my pores. Also, we have other shows like Myth Munchers, Last Meals. Those are good shows. Uh, what other show we got? What’s that? The one where we do it, where we, we take grocery battle. Grocery battle. Yeah. We have a lot of cooking shows that you can watch. 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