The thing that a lot of people with social anxiety struggle with is going out into public places and thinking that everyone is talking about you or judging you or looking at you and you kind of project this, like, “Oh, all these people around me are thinking about me right now.” And that’s where Yeah. The anxiety comes from. Welcome to “Trevor Talks Too Much”, the show where I put my gift of gab to the test and no topic is off limits. I’m your host, Trevor Evarts, master baker, mythical soft boy, hater of the middle school science fair, genuinely hated that so much. I put no effort in, it was my least favorite thing in the world was when we had to do the stupid science fair and we had to make a tri-fold. Anyway, I don’t need to get into how much I freaking hated that as a kid. Today’s a really special episode actually. It is my first ever solo episode. That’s right, this is actually, this intro is being recorded before the main chunk of the show, which we never do. We usually record it after. That’s how we know what we talked about. I don’t have foresight and futuristic vision. I’m not a seer, but yeah, this is my first solo episode so I’m just gonna be talking about, what am I talking about today, Jamie? No, I’m kidding. I know, that’s a joke. I’m gonna be talking about social anxiety and the pandemic and what that did to all of our freaking brains. My brain, mostly, because I know it best, better than anybody else’s brain. It’s gonna be a good time though. I’m gonna be talking a lot. Jamie’s probably gonna be talking more than usual, which is ideal because I like it when Jamie talks to me. It’s nice. I like the conversations that we have, Jamie. Yay. Yeah, yeah it’s huge, it’s huge. Yeah, so we’re doing this, we’re trying it out, so if this is something that you wanna see more of, let us know, hopefully we’ll be doing more of these episodes and they’ll still hopefully be funny and entertaining, but also, you know, giving us a chance to get a little bit deeper sometimes with these topics, which I think, I hope you want. I hope you want to know more about me and what goes on inside my head. Maybe you don’t. Maybe nobody wants to know what goes on inside my head. I know I sure don’t. I just try and zone out as often as possible so I don’t have to be in my own thoughts. No, I feel like your thoughts are super interesting ’cause you know, well you have, the way that you bring up these topics. I feel like your thoughts are super interesting. Well no, ’cause you bring up random topics, ’cause when we’re not on the air and we’re talking about random stuff all the time, I feel like it’s like fun to follow. Yeah. It’s fun to follow. So other people don’t get to see that as much. So I’m like, It’s true. I’m happy that they’re going to get a glimpse into that. Yeah, that’s true, that’s true. I mean I am like kind of a super genius. That’s one thing about me. I have a very high IQ. I can’t back that up with any sort of proof. I’ve never taken an IQ test but yeah, I’m also generally talk about how stupid I am. Well, you know that movie, Baby Geniuses, was based on Trevor’s life as a baby. What? What is the movie, Baby Geniuses? You’ve never seen Baby Geniuses? No, I’ve never seen Baby G, what is Baby Geniuses? The prequel to Boss Baby? No, it’s actually they used real human babies but then they had adults or kids like be their voices, they were geniuses and it’s like they saved the world or something like that but they’re babies. That’s literally the plot of Boss Baby. I know but it’s better because it’s real babies. It’s real babies. It’s real babies. It’s live action babies. Live action babies. Live action babies. And they didn’t even get stunt doubles, they’re actually doing the scientific experiments. Were they like, what? No, I’m kidding, that was a lie. I was gonna say, got this baby just holding a beaker full of corrosive acid, just waving it around. How baby were they? No, literally. Do they walk around or are they just Yeah, they’re like, they were like 18 months Kinda crawling around? To like two and a half years maybe. I don’t, I know nothing about the progression of humans. Honestly, I don’t know how old a third grader is. If you told me a third grader was 10, I’d probably be Eight. Like okay, I believe you. If you told me a third grader was six, I’d be like, “That sounds right.” I don’t know anything, I don’t know when kids start talking, I don’t know when kids starting walking. I don’t know anything about babies or children and as a former baby slash child myself, I know that’s pretty embarrassing but. Anyways. So anyway, this is the first solo episode of the show, well solo and a half ’cause Jamie will still be here and we’ll be talking but I have no guest, which is interesting because now you get to just hear my incoherent ramblings, the thought stream, the thought stream from my head to the microphone, unhindered by the presence of someone that I don’t want to think I’m insane. Why don’t we talk about something that’s been pretty important to me in the past at least is social anxiety. It’s funny, I’ve had a weird journey with social anxiety and especially, you know, turning 21 during the pandemic and then coming back to society now that things are opening back up and we’re in a pre-post pandemic ’cause it’s still going on. Yeah. But then things are kind of going back to normal but we’re not out, we’re not out of it yet. So it’s weird, there’s this weird little thing but I’ve been doing a lot of stuff recently and maybe it just feels like a lot. That’s something I’ve noticed is I always feel like I’ve done so much. If I go out two nights on a weekend, like if I’m doing something Friday night and Saturday night, I’m like, oh my God, I did so much stuff this weekend. But I think it’s just ’cause for two years I did nothing at all. So now any time I do anything, Yeah. It feels like an event. I’m like, oh my God, I was so busy, I’ve been so busy. But really it’s just like a normal amount of going out. No I mean it’s definitely taken a toll, I feel like, on a lot of people in that sense. And for you too, so I mean ’cause you’ve told a lot of stories on the podcast about your life and things and honestly for someone that’s only 22, I feel like you actually have done a lot of different things. Like you’ve lived in a bunch of different places and all that stuff. Yeah. But I kind of, me being post 21 for a while now, I don’t even remember, what people did before. Old. I know but it’s like what did people do besides go to bars and you didn’t even be able to get that experience right away either. No. So what kinda was that like when you went into, also ’cause you play a lot of video games and stuff so I feel like you’re used Yeah. To being home, but was it still weird to have that not being able to go out and not being able to experience those things? Well I, so take it back a few years. When I was in high school, I was, I really had bad social anxiety. It was really hard for me to be in public places by myself. I couldn’t. I literally, if I wanted to go to the mall for something, I always had to ask a friend and be like, “Hey, can you go to the mall with me?” ‘Cause if I went to the mall, it was just instant uncomfortable, I hate that I’m out here, all these people are looking at me and thinking about me and judging me and talking about me. That was my mindset, I hated going out, I hated being in large groups, was really draining. And it always is, I mean I’m an introverted person. I would say that I’m a people person, I love talking to people, I love going out, I don’t dislike it but definitely when I recharge is when I’m by myself in my room with no one around, doing whatever. That’s definitely my re-charge time and my dad’s kinda the same way. We both get a lot of crap for people are like, “Oh, you’re not introverted. You’re so, you know, you’re loud, you love talking to people, you love being around people.” And it’s like yeah, you can love being around people but still be introverted ’cause being around people really drains me. And so when I was in high school, social anxiety was tough. It really was, I didn’t like going out, I didn’t like doing things, even school dances and stuff like that, they just weren’t fun to me, they made me very stressed out. And then I moved to LA. Well there was like a year after high school that I lived in Virginia and then I moved to LA and then I was in LA for like a year but I didn’t do anything when, the first year of living on my own in LA, when I was working at Dominique Ansel Bakery, I didn’t do anything. Yeah. Really? ‘Cause I had no money. Mm, that is a thing. I was living in West Hollywood by myself, which was very expensive. I was gonna say, I was like, so you moved to LA and you moved to West Hollywood? Yeah well no, it was a mile from where I worked. Oh okay, makes sense. It was literally a mile from the Grove, but it was, I mean that was my first time living by myself, in a room, I had my own place to myself. That was the first time. And I didn’t do anything ’cause I was getting paid enough to pay my rent, pay utilities, whatever, internet, and then have food but other than that I didn’t have a ton of extra income to go out and do things. So I mean every once in a while I’d go out with some friends from work or whatever, but that was once in a blue moon, so definitely during that year I kinda just sat inside and didn’t do anything so I didn’t have to really deal with that stuff. But did you feel kind of okay with it because you’re like, well I don’t have to put myself out there as much, because I don’t have the means to do so. ‘Cause for me, I didn’t move out ’til I was like 25 and I was born and raised here so I’ve never had that. But moving out so young too, on your own, I feel like is a struggle in and of itself. Definitely that year stretch, I was going to work, I went in in the afternoon and I was there ’til night and then I’d come home, I’d eat dinner at like 10:00PM and then I’d be up until 4 in the morning playing video games, doing whatever, and then I’d go to sleep and I’d wake up at noon, rinse and repeat. So my sleep schedule is weird, I didn’t, I wasn’t going out and doing a ton of stuff, I definitely was not medicated so probably wasn’t in the best mental space, even though I know it wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t ideal. But I mean I was happy to do that, I kinda got into this rhythm and I was happy to sit inside and play video games. Then I got this job and I had three months of like, oh, I have now a lot of really cool friends and coworkers, I have more money now, I’m not paying as much, I moved up to Burbank, I’m not paying as much to live, I can finally go out and start doing stuff, I can actually live and experience LA. I can go out to places to eat with my friends and stuff like that. And then the pandemic happened. Oof, that just put a stop. And then I was like, oh, nevermind, I get to sit inside again for another year and a half, two years. But it’s funny, at that point I hadn’t really ever had to deal with my social anxiety for a long time. I hadn’t had to deal with it, I hadn’t had to put it out there and I think something that really helped me with my social anxiety is being on the internet. Because when I used to get really anxious and I think the thing a lot of people with social anxiety struggle with is going out into public places and thinking that everyone is talking about you or judging you or looking at you. And you kinda project this like, oh all these people around me are thinking about me right now and that’s where the anxiety comes from. So when you start making videos and you’re in videos that get put on the internet, you know people are judging you all the time and they tell you they’re judging you in the comments. So then once I started doing that, once I started being ridiculed by people on the internet on a daily basis, it actually really helped. Because at first, the hate comments really made me feel like really bad, I hated it, I would read through every single comment on a video, I would pick out one of the few bad ones that there were and then be like, “Oh my God, yeah, Trevor you’re the worst.” And I hated it. Then I got over that and I was like, “Well I don’t care what people on the internet think.” And then I was like, wait, if I freaking put myself out there every day for people on the internet to judge me, I don’t care what they think. Why do I care what randos in public think? No but, Yeah. Nobody cares. Nobody’s sitting there looking at me walking around, maybe there are, maybe there are people that are looking at me like, “Wow, that guy’s a freaking nerd. Look at that idiot in his dumb overalls, loser.” But I dunno, I started feeling a lot better with just being out and about in public and now that the pandemic is not over but things are opening back up, I’ve definitely found that going out isn’t as hard. It’s one of those things though, that for whatever reason we’re like, “There’s no way that someone else out there is thinking a positive thought about me.” Which is so of our own brains to do to us ’cause like I’ve always been someone that’s very extroverted and I, but because of the pandemic I feel like my social battery has decreased a lot. Yeah. And I started feeling a lot more social anxiety than I normally did, so that was a complete shift for me. Yeah. So I was like oh crap, so then for me it was more of like, “Maybe I wasn’t as extroverted as I thought.” And then the whole terms of introvert versus extrovert, I feel like no one really kinda knows what that means, like they do but I feel like it’s just thrown around so much that it can be anything, like you said. And I also look back now on my times of being, I used to want to be out all the time and now I’m like, I do wanna be home more. If I do two things on a weekend, I’m exhausted. No yeah, I get that. I still am exhausted if I do two things on a weekend. As someone that was not really going out too too much anyways, was turning 21 and having that milestone taken away from you, was that hard to deal with or did you feel a certain type of way towards that? Yeah, no, I mean that was tough ’cause there were things that I wanted to do for my 21st birthday. I’ve never been that big of a birthday person but when I was turning 21, I definitely did feel like, “Oh, this is something that I wanna celebrate.” Because when you’re the young person everywhere, like when I was the young person at the bakery and I couldn’t go out with friends after work when they wanted to go get a drink, when I was the young person here that it was literally my first holiday party almost so a month after I started working here we had a holiday party. Some of my new friends, who I’d just met and just started getting close with, they went to a bar afterwards and I was like, oh, I can’t, I just gotta go home. And so it was definitely something where I was like, I can finally do things now, I can finally go out and grab a drink with friends or even go to Vegas with my parents. That was something that I’d wanted to do ’cause my parents Yeah. Love going to Vegas, they go a lot and it was gonna be this big thing that was like oh, I can finally go to Vegas with my parents and have fun with them. But then that didn’t happen and I think I went to, think I just went to a liquor store and got a rack of Blue Moon or something, just had a brewski at home. But I’d drank before I turned 21 so. Trevor! Not a lot. The first person ever. The first ever criminal, it’s me. But I know for me it wasn’t too big of a deal I think ’cause generally I’m a pretty go with the flow person, I don’t tend to get too upset by things like that. But I know for Destiny it was really hard because she graduated during the pandemic. Mm, okay. And so she, the pandemic started right towards the end of her junior year of college and so her whole senior year was online and her whole, she turned 21 in college as a senior, wasn’t able to do anything, wasn’t able to go out, get a drink, party with her friends, whatever. She graduated, her whole last year of school was online and I know that was really tough on her and I’m sure tough on anyone else in college or high school to have that last year of that taken away from you. Oh yeah, 100 percent. Like I know for Destiny it was especially hard too, ’cause she was wanting to go out and start a career. Yeah. She was graduating with a degree in Biology and she was looking for internships at places and just nobody was hiring, nobody had people in the office, they didn’t have positions open for interns because everything was kinda shut down because of the pandemic. And so I didn’t go to college so I didn’t experience that but all those people that are my age that did, they all really got the short end of the stick on that one. To have basically your life put on pause for two years. Yeah. And not be able to go out and do those things, I mean graduating from college from a four year university, Huge milestone. Huge milestone, very big thing, very big jumping off point into life. ‘Cause you know, you graduate from high school and it’s like, “I’m no longer a high schooler, I’m not a kid anymore, I’m an adult.” But you’re gonna do more school and you’re still gonna kinda be a kid, you’re not gonna have those responsibilities, you’re not gonna have a full time job if you do choose to go to college and stuff like that. But it’s hard. It’s super hard, and I feel like with, okay, you graduate high school, obviously still big milestone, you don’t have to go to college but there’s something about entering your twenties that kind of, when you enter your twenties you do feel like, “Okay, this is kinda when my life is starting. I get to make the decisions. I get to do these kinda things.” So it’s not even just about drinking and going to bars but it’s about I’m no longer a teen, I’m considered an adult and you can’t postpone that. You can postpone Coachella, you can postpone all these concerts to when it’s safer but you don’t postpone oh I’m 21 and I’m becoming an adult and I’m figuring myself out. Yeah. I was glad I was the age that I was when this was happening ’cause I would hate to have been younger and not have had those experiences ’cause I felt like I did a lot of soul searching then and I still do that so it’s just, I feel for all of you guys that are just trying to figure it out. Yeah, like moving out for the first time, getting an apartment with friends or whatever, getting your first real job. So I dunno, it just seems like it sucks. I’m very thankful for the position that I was in that it was like, okay, I guess I just play more video games at home now when I’m not working. Yeah. Which is great but definitely was hard to come back though and figure out how to talk to people again and make friends. Obviously it’s not like this podcast started as the world was opening up but it kinda did a little bit. Kinda, yeah. So it’s like how do you think that was for you being like, “Oh, I talk to my coworkers all the time but now I’m having all these people on that I actually don’t know personally but know about them.” And actually you’re like, “I’m gonna become their friend.” And how did that feel? It’s funny, actually, how little it helps. Oh no. It’s funny how different it is too ’cause when someone comes in here and I’m gonna give you a little insight into the show, my brain is in full host mode. It’s not in like, like yeah it’s a fun conversation and that’s what I want it to be and we are having a fun conversation but as someone that is, what I would, sorry, burping Diet Coke into my microphone. Anyway, back to what I was saying, as someone who’s an entertainer. Um, as someone whose job it is to be on camera and be a personality and be entertaining, as soon as someone sits down in that chair or calls into that screen and the cameras start rolling, I’m not in, “Oh I’m Trevor and you’re this person and I’m, it’s like we’re just having a coffee.” It’s not like that. Yeah. In an ideal world that’s what it’d be like but it’d probably be a lot more awkward ’cause I don’t know how to do that. I’m okay at being a host and I have things here written down that I wanna talk about and I can ask questions and I can do a conversation but if I go to a party now and I’m meeting someone new, I have no clue what to say. I don’t know if I used to be good at it, I can’t remember, I don’t know if I used to be personable and know how to start a conversation but then I see someone, I’m like, I have no clue what to say to you. How do you start? Like hi, my name’s Trevor. So who, what things do you like? Yeah, like if you don’t have a topic already set out. I guess it’s true in the podcast, you’re like, well I have all these things I’ve got ready to say. Yeah, I have a whole sheet of stuff here that I can fall back on. I need to just start doing that. If I’m going to a party and I know the types of people that are gonna be there, I’m just gonna write a cheat sheet in my phone and be like, “So, you grew up in Oklahoma. What was that like?” They’d be like, what the hell did you just say? How do you know that? Like oh I do my research. You’re just texting me, you’re like I need the research on this person. Oh God, yeah, no. No. It’s not similar at all, this hasn’t helped me at all. I will say, though, it has helped me make friends. It hasn’t helped me Yeah I was gonna say. With making friends or with making friends out in the wild but that’s also just ’cause I think I’m an awkward person in general. That’s actually something that I wanted to talk about. Yeah. I think I’m okay, I’m fine at talking to people and making friends. I don’t wanna make myself sound like I’m just a bumbling idiot out in public. The thing that struggles for me is that now that I’ve made some really cool friends in the content creation space through this show is now when I meet new people in this space, like for example I was at a party recently with, it was OfflineTV’s anime expo after party a little bit ago and OfflineTV, if you don’t know, Pokimane, Disguised Toast, Scarra, LilyPichu, all these people, very big streamers, it was a very big party. It was a lot of streamers, YouTubers, content creators, people that I have honestly looked up to forever. And now that I’m in that space, I get really bad imposter syndrome ’cause I’m like, Mm. I looked up to you people, I do look up to you people. I think you’re really cool. What gives me the right to be here and have a conversation with you? And they don’t care. I literally, I love Shroud. Shroud is one of my favorite freaking gamers of all time, I think he’s the freaking GOAT. And he’s so great. And I think he’s the coolest person ever. And I saw Shroud at this party and I remember talking to him and the whole time in my head I’m just like, “What? Why are you here, Trevor? How do you exist in this space? What do you talk about? You’re not cool like these people.” And, “You have no cred, you have no clout. What are you doing here? How do you talk to people that,” You know, it’s like when your idols or people that you look up to become your peers, even though I wouldn’t call Oh yeah. Shroud a peer of mine, but when that happens it’s really hard to be cool about it ’cause I’m like, I don’t know what to talk to these people about ’cause I think they’re really cool and I’ve watched their videos since I was in high school. And now I’m here talking to them face to face and I just have to play it cool and be chill and that’s one of the hardest things for me is figuring out the balance of going up to someone that I really admire and being like, “Hey, I really admire you.” Versus not wanting to seem like a weirdo fan boy. Yeah exactly. And I mean I think it’s also too, all of those creators probably went through the same exact thing when they were smaller or starting out or whatever. Or they probably still go through that now. Do you ever think about people that are still, like who Shroud probably looks up to and gets giddy about too? I’m sure there are people. Nobody. Shroud’s the GOAT. Okay, well I mean maybe. He’s the greatest of all time. Maybe not in the video game world but I don’t know, what if he met Rihanna. I don’t know if that’s someone he would like but you know. I don’t think Shroud looks up, I don’t, that doesn’t. Probably not but you know. That was an example. I don’t know much about Shroud. But no, but I get what you’re saying. And it is and there’s always gonna be another level of fame, another level of notoriety that it’s like, oh, I can’t believe I met that person. I dunno, it’s weird. I literally had a conversation, Shifter is a former League of Legends player, he’s a recovering League of Legends player. Recovering? Yeah because if you’ve played League of Legends a lot and then you stop, then it’s like quitting drugs, it’s great. Oh so he’s kind of like a League rehab? Yeah, he’s in League rehab. No, he’s just been playing a lot of Valiant ’cause League sucks. But I love Shifter and my friends and I literally used to watch Shifter play all the time when we were in high school, back when we first started playing League. And I saw Shifter at this party and I walked up to him and I was like, “Oh my God, this is Shifter. What do I say? What do I freaking talk about?” And then instinctively, and I’d also been drinking, it was a party. And so instinctively I was just like, “I have to prove to him right now that I have the right to be speaking to him.” Which is so dumb when you think about it. You’re at a party, just go up and say hi. Even if I lead with, “Hey dude, I love your videos.” Or, “I love your streams.” Even if I lead with that, that’s not weird, that’s not weird for someone to say. Even if I was, he didn’t know who I was, or he just assumed that I was another content creator, just to have someone come up to you and be like, “Hey, I love your stuff.” If another content creator does that, that’s not a weird thing to do. But in my head, I was like, “I don’t have the right to be here. I am less than these people so I have to prove to them that I am worth talking to, or I’m okay to be here.” And so I just clout checked myself right in front of him, it was the dumbest thing ever. No, Trevor. I was like, I was like – We talked about it before you went, we’re like don’t do that. I know, and I was just in this moment though, it’s so hard for me Yeah. To be in these spaces and not, I dunno, that’s been the hardest thing honestly. Yeah. I think I’ve been doing a lot better as far as social anxiety and I don’t think I’ve ever really struggled with making friends normally but now that I’m in a place where I’m meeting a lot of people that I really look up to and really admire, Yeah. It’s really hard for me to not be a weirdo because I don’t see myself as on that level or I don’t see myself as being in the same league as them. It’s always hard, any time any of my friends joke around and say, “Oh, Trevor, you’re a famous friend.” I’m like, I’m not famous, I’m stupid. I’m just, I’m on a YouTube channel sometimes. I work for two famous guys and I occasionally will be on camera for a second on their show but I’m not famous. And millions of people have seen your face. Yeah but still, it’s not like, I’m not famous. I don’t even know that I’d go so far as to say I’m an internet micro-celebrity. I don’t believe that micro-celebrity even still feels too big. But maybe that’s just me projecting, I don’t know, I’ve never had a lot of self confidence and I don’t see myself as being, but to my friends I am their famous friend. Yeah. To my friends, I am, to my friends who aren’t, they’re not grinding on social media for followers, they’re not in any sort of content, they’re just, they’re normal people who I love. That sounds so bad, that sounded so bad. Yeah, they’re just normies. No. My friends are just normies. But they are, and I love my friends to death but to them I’m like, oh, Trevor, yeah, you’re a famous friend. And in my head I’m like, no I’m not. But I don’t know, it’s just a weird matter of perception. I don’t think I ever give myself enough credit. I definitely am someone that leans on the side of not giving myself any credit just because I don’t know, I’m very comparative to other people and so any time I achieve anything, I’m like, “Oh but it could be this.” It could be this much better. There’s these people that have done way more than I have, so obviously what I’ve done is worthless. No, not at all. And well I would like to say, so whilst the first time that we chatted and then the first time that we met, we had something to talk about. It wasn’t like we just stumbled across each other, it’s like okay, we’re trying to figure out can we work together. But I will say after that first initial we met over Zoom to see oh could we gel together, literally I was like, I got off the Zoom and I was like, I wanna work with this kid. I think that he’s super cool, I think we could jive super well together. So I was excited, I was like, all right, this is the kinda personality that I could work with. And then when we met for the first time, yeah, we were talking about work stuff so again it wasn’t like oh we had to come up with conversation but it also didn’t feel, to me, super awkward. I don’t know how it felt to you but I was just like, well hey, No it wasn’t. We’re chilling, we met at a coffee shop, we’re like okay. I forgot about that. We did do that. Yeah. Here’s the thing, everyone, this is our first solo episode, this is the first time I’ve had to sit here and fill up 38 minutes without having a guest right there and Jamie, you’ve been phenomenal. But it is hard to just talk about myself. But I don’t think until I started talking I realized how much I’ve changed since high school. Yeah. I’ve changed so much and yeah, I think the hardest thing, honestly for me, is to just continue to be growing in this space and meeting people that I think are really cool and feeling like I don’t belong there, feeling like oh, you don’t belong here, you’re not, you’re not in the same league as these people and even though every single person that I’ve met and become friends with and talked to has said the exact opposite. It’s still just hard for me, I dunno. I have a lot of problems. No, well this is the thing, it’s like we can, someone can compliment you until you’re blue in the face, I dunno why you’d be holding your breath during that but maybe you are. Yeah. That’s me. And you still need to believe it yourself. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it is difficult. My friends say that I’m the confident one but I’m like, oh my God, when you were talking about having imposter syndrome, I’m like, I literally had that conversation this weekend. I’m like, “I don’t know what I’m doing, I’m a fraud in my life. People think I’m successful but yada yada yada.” You know that kinda thing. So I feel like that’s something that a lot more people can relate to than you would think too. Yeah. I feel like we’re all, that’s why I’ve always said, I’m gonna write a book and it’s gonna be called, “Just Winging It”, because that’s what everyone is doing, I feel like. Yeah, honestly. It’s, it’s tough and I’m very thankful for everyone here at Mythical, even Josh and Nicole. Yeah. They’re two of my favorite people in the planet and they have done nothing but support me all the time and ever since I started here, just doing food, to my first really terrible on camera appearance in Snack Smash where I was just stiff as a board and had no clue what I was doing and they still took a chance on me and let me keep going at it, let me keep hammering away and then for Rhett and Link to even give me a show, I dunno. Normally this is the point in the podcast where you ask me how things have been going but I kinda wanna ask you, after having this moment, how do you feel about how this is going as being a solo podcast? I don’t know. I feel like I’m just gonna air out how really truly mentally unhealthy I am. No, I think you’re having very thoughtful conversations. Am I? Am I having thoughtful conversations? I feel like people are gonna listen to this and be like, “Wow, Trevor’s fricked up in the head. That guy’s got some issues.” And I do but I think that the issues that I have are issues that everyone has. A hundred percent. Deep down to some degree, everyone at one point or another, I don’t, I find it really hard to believe that anyone is truly confident. Mm hm. I think that it is really hard. I think that some people fake it and I think some people fake it until they believe it, which I admire and I would wanna do one day. But I think for anyone to truly feel like 100 percent confident in who they are and in themselves, I think that’s a very rare thing. I think everybody struggles to some degree with having not a great sense of self importance or self worth, I think that, I think it is, especially for people in my generation, I dunno, I just feel like it’s something that’s very common with me and a lot of my peers just to not, I dunno, I dunno, maybe there’s some old people out there. I feel like old people are pretty confident, but. They, it’s all the same to be completely honest. They also, Yeah. Like my dad has talked about his anxieties just recently. And I’ve always like, “Dad, you have literally come off as the most confident never wavering person that I’ve ever met.” Yeah. So just to know, and also just I feel like it adds just a very human aspect to people. Yeah. Like you look up to people, people in your life or people that you don’t know that are struggling. Yeah. And it’s like obviously you don’t want anyone to struggle, I don’t want you to struggle with stuff ’cause I think you’re awesome. I don’t want me to struggle with stuff even though I do all the time, but I’ve had friends be like, before I was open about my anxiety, they were like, “I never would’ve thought for a second you struggled with it.” And I was like, “Oh no, it’s constant.” Yeah. Yeah. I’m like, my mind is just constantly crumbling but it’s like it’s good to talk about those things because then it makes everyone, I feel, feel a little bit better about themselves just to know, okay, I’m not alone in my thoughts. Other people also go through these things and then you can help each other work through it maybe. Yeah. I think that’s something that’s definitely been, I think big, I think it’s something that we’ve talked about previously on the show but living in the world of comparison and the world of social media and only ever seeing the good side of people definitely makes it hard. I got my hands down my overalls right now. I was gonna say, what are you doing, Trevor? No I’m kidding. No, I’m just resting my hands in my overalls, that’s why I wear them. But I mean everybody has the things that they’ve struggled with and there’s no problem that someone hasn’t dealt with before. There’s no new problems, not like me being I’m the first person ever to struggle with sense of self worth. How did this turn from this social anxiety podcast into the self worth podcast? I feel like it goes. I switched it up, Jamie, I’m sorry. Change the title. So cringe. Well do you wanna make it, I mean so cringe. Do you wanna make it a little bit more cringe? Yeah, what am I, what? And help me out because I feel like, especially since working on this podcast, you have taught me so many different things that I did not know before Yeah, I know, I’m a pretty smart person. In the world. Because I’m not, I feel like I’m just, I’m not hip anymore. Yeah. Even saying that sounds like I’m 78, but. I’m not hip anymore. I’m not hip but I need a hip replacement. But would you like to. Do you wanna re-take that? Yeah. Oh, that was so corny, I loved that. I know you have all the editing power but you have to leave that in for me, that was so corny. Oh I’m leaving that in. All right, what were you gonna ask me? You were getting into something. Basically I was trying to say, I would like you to Oh are you gonna ask me to explain what something means like slang? Yes, I would like you to clarify something for me. Well that’s a great segue into one of my new fun things that I wanna do, new segments that I wanna do, called, “Trevor Tries to Clarify”. I’m Trevor and I’m gonna try to clarify as much as I can. What is riz? I don’t understand. Riz is my new favorite word. What? Like what? Riz is the funniest thing that anyone can say. Wh, what is it? Okay, so here’s what riz means. There was some Twitch streamer, I think, that started it. But basically if, okay, there’s a few different ways that you can use the word but imagine I say I’m dropping straight riz right now or I’m dropping riz right now. Pretty much all that means is like how smooth you are or your ability to pick up men or women. Oh. It’s literally like, for example, say I go up to and I’m in a committed relationship so this is purely hypothetical, but say I go up to a girl at the bar and I drop a really funny joke or a nice pick up line or something, like dude, I’m dropping straight riz right now. But it’s ironic. I would never say it un-ironically. It’s usually when I make a really stupid joke around Destiny, I’ll be like, yo, that was riz, or I’m dropping riz right now. And then there’s unspoken riz, which is your ability to be attractive without saying anything. So if you can just look at someone and then give ’em a little look and then that’s the unspoken riz. That’s much rarer, to have the unspoken riz. It’s a meme. It’s really stupid. I use it purely ironically. That, that, okay. I mean, so if there was a modern day, which I really hope there never is, like a modern day pick up artist thing, that would be their, be like, “We’re gonna work on your ability to drop riz.” Or something. Yeah but it’s stupid, it’s like a gaming Twitch thing though Oh okay. Which means it’s ironic and dumb. If anybody ever seriously was trying to say, “Dude, I got that crazy unspoken riz.” If anybody ever said that in a sentence and wasn’t trying to be funny, I’d be like, “That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.” But when I walk around with my sick Fortnite hoody and I’ll be like, “Yo, this hoody has got that unspoken riz. This is straight riz.” That’s funny. Oh God. I just like to say it pretty much any time, and I make dumb jokes on a very regular basis so any time I’m walking around with my girlfriend and I say something really stupid, I’m like, “Yo, I’m dropping riz right now.” Okay, well ’cause I honestly, Don’t you wanna use it? I had heard it once on the interwebs and I was like, “I don’t know what that is.” Jamie, are you like 40? You sound so old. I know, I – I heard it once on the interwebs. Oh when I charge people, my roommates, I write interwebs on Venmo. Uh, no. I also do that ironically. What do I, what do I write on my Venmos? I think I, I’ll just do a little computer or something or I’ll just write bills. Oh, so you don’t like to make it fun? No. No. That’s how sad my life is, that’s where my joy comes from. I don’t feel the need to make it fun. I tend to think, I’m a business man, you know? We’re pretty ser, I’m a pretty serious guy. Once that mic turns off, it’s all business. All business. I’m totally not a freaking idiot in real life, I only do this for the camera. Oh my goodness, well thank you for enlightening me on that because I, Of course. I have no idea, I’m sure I’ll have more questions. Happy to help, happy to help. Here’s the thing, anyone that I can, I dunno, it always feels like I’m outing myself as really stupid whenever anyone asks, they’re like, “Oh, what does this thing mean, young person?” And then I’m like, “Oh let me tell you.” And then I explain it and then I’m like, “Wow, I sound so stupid. They probably think I’m stupid.” But it’s okay, I’ve come to grips with that. Every slang. Yeah, every. From every generation has, you know. Yeah. Yeah, no, I get it. But I love telling people about the stupid things that I say, what can I say? I got that unspoken riz. Oh no. Maybe it’s time to close it out. What? It’s time to close it out? All right, before we wrap it up, Jamie, I have some very exciting news to share with the people. We made a freaking card game. Not me personally, Rhett and Link and our friends over at Spinmaster, they worked together to create a really fun card game that’s all about putting positive spins on terrible things that are happening. ‘Cause I feel like there’s a lot of terrible things that have been happening and there’s a lot of weird situations and stuff. But it’s really fun, it’s like a party game that you play with your friends and you win points by playing missing words that can put a positive spin on the situations in the funniest way, That’s fun. So there’s these bad situations that you get into and then you gotta play these cards to fill in the blanks of these situations and try and make it more positive. But it’s really cool, it’s really fun and we’re bringing it to you. We’re releasing it now, I believe it’s out now. You can find it at Walmart. It’s a fun party game to play with your friends so go check it out. It’s called, “We’re Still Good”, you know, get into some fun, disastrous adventures with your friends in the form of card games. And there’s also a ton of Mythical stuff in there too. Little inside jokes, fun stuff like that. So definitely go check that out. And yeah, thank you for listening to “Trevor Talks Too Much”, the first solo episode. I hope you enjoyed. Please let me know if you did, if you wanna see more of this, if you enjoy hearing me ramble on and on and give you a little look inside my brain, let us know, leave a review, leave a comment. But we also, we’re not completely giving up on the guests still, No. Yeah, no, not at all. We’re still gonna have guests on, it’ll be kind of a little back and forth thing, we’ll be doing a little mix. So let us know what you wanna hear, what you wanna see. We’ve got new episodes out every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts, the video versions come out the following Monday on YouTube.com/Trevortalkstoomuch. And yeah, what else do I plug, Jamie? What else do I need to say? You can find us on social medias, you can find all of the stuff on social medias, go check out all the other channels, Mythical Kitchen, GMM, all the other podcasts and stuff too, they’re all great. Check out Mythical Pods over on TikTok for some fun clips from all of the Mythical podcasts. If there’s any really stupid thing that you’ve heard on the internet and you don’t know what it means, I probably know what it means so send me a DM or something, ask me and I will try and answer as many of those questions. 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