ramble are you tired of losing your poor meatballs on top of spaghetti all covered in cheeses when somebody sneezes try meatloaf it’s basically the same thing or is it this is a hot dog as a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host Josh air and I’m your host Nicole anayadi and Nicole today we’re talking about meatballs I didn’t wait side note I did not understand the reference of the first part with the meatballs and the sneezes well sometimes Nicole when your meatball is sitting on top of spaghetti you lose it when somebody sneezes I don’t understand the rough on top of spaghetti all covered in cheese sing it with me Nicole there’s that man for me the ball when somebody sneezed I think I said they’re set instead of I lost I think they lost it’s a children’s song it’s fun for the kids cool we had a teacher in fourth grade who instead of teaching math would sing songs on his guitar and then none of us learned math for a whole year this is real that’s awesome parents intervened years later they’re like yo I get you’re a failed musician that’s cool for you but like you gotta teach math yeah the songs he’s saying were racist too I had a really bad math teacher named Mr hamburger and I’m in the food industry so well hey today we’re talking about is Meatloaf just along meatball and this came up for a couple reasons Nicole okay what are the reasons okay one reason I saw a tweet uh that was an Australian person saying that they just learned about meatloaf and thought that it was an American prank trying to convince International people that that’s what American food was America’s just one big prank America yeah but meatloaf is a delight so I was mad about that and then I had I had one other experience and this is gonna come full circle I went to a restaurant opening with Julia a place called Lavo very fancy very vibey loaf on the menu or wait hold on did they have meatloaf on the menu Nicole that’s a good question because I think they did and other other people think they did not they have a one pound meatball oh David one pound meatball and it is an absolute Delight Julia loves meatballs I make them like you know how much is a pound like in terms of like weightage so I can like feel it in terms of weightage a pound is a pound okay so to cool a pound is the weight no I know I know but Nicole is a holding a coconut Lacroix um water is roughly 16 ounces of water equal yeah now Nicole is holding a tall boy of liquid death okay which is 16 ounces which is indeed a pound but yeah but a pound of Meatball I mean that’s big yeah it is significantly bigger than a normal meatball was it completely round or did it have was like a mountain a mound was it a round mouth how could you consider it a loaf but that’s what I was getting to I think that once a meatball gets to a certain size it is effectively a meatloaf in one pound to me I don’t know if that’s big enough to qualify for meatloaf I would say it’s an individually portioned meatloaf but the the sexiness Gap there’s something in food we call the sexiness Gap yeah it’s for sure it’s like the Big Mac index on International economics the sexiest gap between meatloaf and meatballs is massive because Lavo sexy sexy restaurant that we went to is it yeah it’s like sexy oh my God they’re retractable this sounds like a lot there’s a wrist track there’s a retractable roof oh yeah dude in like the place I was just they come out they come over with a cocktail that is you know like they pull up the clothes and smoke evaporates out of it cool man awesome cool but they can never get away with serving a meatloaf right that’s not sexy food but a meatball balls are sexy so interesting how meatballs are sexy but meatloaf is like the the antithesis of sexy I know right loaf is not a sexy word ball so sexy but you got to agree that they’re saying that it’s the same thing right you could take the same mixture one says like let me show you my loaf you know that’s not sexy when someone you know what I mean finish your sentence yeah yeah so I don’t know because when you think about it you could take the meat mixture whatever it is right and you could form it into a loaf you could form it into a ball you could form it into like a like a flat I don’t know like a sheet hamburger Michi oh Michi Michi that’s sexy hamburger Puck we once made a meat sheet and then use that as like a tortilla to wrap around carne asada that was one of the proudest my proudest moments like watching you cook like I was like this guy’s like legit yeah we made a sheet of raw ground meat and then wrapped carne asada and beans up in it and then baked and it looked exactly like a burrito I was so proud of you at the moment I’m like at that point like I think I was there for like what like six months yeah I’m like but then I saw that I’m like oh okay that’s when you recognize my genius thank you thank you yeah I was like this guy’s cool but yeah I don’t know honestly the difference between a meatloaf and a meatball there is no difference right well okay in the American context because let’s talk about this right so when we’re talking about meatballs in the American context we are probably talking about Italian pulpateini which like that there’s a hole albondigas in Swedish uh what do you call them in in far as and like kofta is what they call it in a lot of the Middle East right uh you have kefteres in Greece uh you have sukune in Japan like meatballs tsukune is great oh do they like hand chop the chicken for the meatballs and skew dude point is like meatballs all around the world are a delicious sexy food and they date back like thousands of years and they even look at like the meatballs in in Pho right there’s Vietnamese meatballs there’s so many processed ground Meats shoved into balls but when we’re talking about like you know a one pound meatball at Lavo that is Italian pulpate and like in Italy it is a somewhat quote unquote authentic dish whatever that means to you started in likely South Italy right but like nobody eats them on spaghetti I remember my Italian roommates when they found out separate right along the time like it’s a bowl of gray gravy which is this we watch The Sopranos in here I’ve never watched an episode of the surprise yourself a gun Nicole what they eat the meatballs and pasta aren’t eating together yeah they’re separate yeah and my Italian roommates were like why would you eat them together there’s bread in the meatball there’s Breads and pasta why together and I was like I honestly don’t have an answer there is no answer I don’t even think American opulence gluttony yeah it’s like kind of part of it right it’s like a you know Italian immigrants they’re moved to America in the early 20th century or maybe late 19th century and there was just like a ton of available beef due to like Chicago meat packing blah blah any good point is like meatballs from the Italian context got really big in America at that point at the same time meatloaf like the first meatloaf recipes came out in like 1870 I don’t know what it is it’s something about you’re right just like food that is round and circular is so much more attractive I don’t know what it is is it to you it is to me yeah okay like when is the last time you ate mate Aid mate when’s the last time you mated with a meatloaf when’s the last time you ate or made a meatloaf no I I mean we don’t I don’t my family does not enjoy meatloaf have you never made a meatloaf I’ve made it have I made it no I didn’t make it Debbie made it and I saw her why’d Debbie make a meatloaf she had people Debbie what are you doing and it was a really delicious meal was it like an ironic like Americana menu no I don’t know I think I think she just knew how to make it so she made it and it was delicious but I’ve never in good faith put meat in the shape of a log and then baked it like why do you sound like you’re on trial right now I don’t know I don’t know I think I’ve been watching a lot of the Johnny Depp Amber hurts oh let’s get into that no I don’t need to but um it’s it’s just I’ve just never done it you know I’ve done it for work would you like to what’s stopping you I don’t know something about the freeform meat on a sheet freaks me out it doesn’t look great when you just bake it off yeah I understand why meatloaf is less sexy than balls yeah and then you can also put it in like a tin and like you could bake it like that but like also like all of the water like it’s like like all the water like seeps out there’s a layer of oil on the top like I don’t know there’s something the scum there’s a lot of like scum and albumin leaking out of the loaf it’s oh I actually made I did one time make a turkey meatloaf and it was horrible why well that’s on you that’s not a meatloaf what’d you do to it I don’t know I put nothing fun in it but like it was not a good time that’s why I love meatloaf because you put all the fun things in it but you can do the same with meatballs and also I think the surface area of a meatball gets more like it has more Browning and more of the uh what’s the what’s the term my yard reaction yeah the my yard reaction on a meatball is more so than a slice of Meatloaf because you cut the meatloaf into slices and you don’t have the my yard reaction on the sides you only have it on the top and maybe on the bottom true so if you’re if you’re looking at like actual benefits of cookery right meatballs you’re getting more of a crust which is more of a chance to develop those brown protein flavors that we all know and love uh also like are my little easy to portion they’re easy to cook meatloaf is just like this giant wad in there but you know how much I love soft sopping wet Foods that’s a thing that I enjoy um I used to make meatloaf like I’d probably make it maybe once every two weeks for myself uh and then I moved in with Jules and she was like you’re making the same thing I get it we’re buying ground turkey in bulk but just like scoop it onto a sheet pan and make meatballs and so like I don’t necessarily need to work through my relationship issues here Nicole but I miss meatloaf because I prefer it why aren’t you making meatloaf because she doesn’t like it and I put her needs ahead of mine sometimes sometimes you have to be selfish in life to get ahead but to me there’s something like unique about an American meatloaf yeah because somehow the rest of the world did not catch on if any of you listeners out there know of any International meatloaf dishes despite the like 90 different kinds of Meatball dishes yeah that’d be awesome I don’t I think the free-form nature again it freaks me out it freaks people out why does it freak you out I don’t know I don’t know let’s try and get into it like dive into the second oh it looks like a hedgehog no you’re thinking about the German pork tartar dish that they shape into it I’ve made that before too which is delicious it should be illegal in America I think it is but yeah I don’t think you’re allowed to serve raw pork but get your hands out of our raw pork government I don’t know I just there’s something about the way that it cooks that I’m like there must be a better way but what about Nicole wait hear me out also the brown sugar ketchup on top yes what is that what do you mean what is it that’s a delightful sauce it turns into a nice sticky glaze well there’s two different kinds of meal here’s the thing there’s two different kinds of meatloaf and I’ll tell you what you got ketchup glazed in my secret I think I have a lot of nostalgia Forex my dad was just like a American white Boomer dad that’s what it is you know and he knew how to make meatloaf a little bit so I decided to like take that and master meatloaf as my like best dish when I was like 11 12 years old I was the meat master yeah I was an 11 year old meatloaf Meatloaf I took so much pride in the meatloaves that I would make don’t mind that I would take so much pride in the meatloaves that I would make I would like you know add the dehydrated onions I’d sweat down my aromatics the mirepoix add a little bit of tomato paste my glaze it was Trader Joe’s organic ketchup because it was right across the street from our apartment mixed with brown sugar mixed with balsamic vinegar and then inexplicably Nicole I would put sesame seeds on it like a hamburger yeah yeah no it makes sense but it was fancy because it was a meatloaf oh my God the Trader Joe’s ketchup honestly sells it yeah but I don’t know what it is there’s something about like it’s it’s the bread crumbs and the eggs it’s a meatball and the hand and I know I have my own I have my own indiscretions with meatloaf that’s a meatball it’s the same thing you take the meatball mixture and you shape that into a loaf and you bake it and that’s that’s what they did a labo they’re fancy I was sitting next to hold on I’m I was sitting next three cast members of selling Sunset that oh my God honey I see that I see the promos for it and I want to watch it so bad but I’m like I’m going to lose brain cells if I watch I was sitting next to the blonde one the blonde one in the short weirdly buff one oh yeah okay I know exactly he’s got a short weirdly buff brother yeah yeah yeah the oppenheimers the name of the group and they were eating a meatloaf I’m calling me a you you put a pound of meat in a ball and you bake it that’s a loaf the sexy Oppenheimer Twins were eating meatloaf and I and I think that to me that’s an opportunity to Rebrand meatloaf as a sexy food damn I don’t know I I just can’t make it sexy what can I do Nicole what can I do for you to sex up this meatloaf what can I do to you to Brand meatloaf as a sexy food that you would like to eat tell me change the name okay let’s let’s brainstorm right now let’s meet storm right now uh uh steak brick uh oh well I mean like log is a sexy word meat log like he’s got a baseball maybe we should get rid of the meat why don’t we just call it the blank okay wait hold on so the Dwayne The Rock Johnson The Rock This is okay but he started while his private Chef started the standalone thing at the Westfield Century City Mall the fanciest Mall which one it’s called brick this is actually a good case study there is Nicole okay there’s if you go into that mall every single the best food what are you talking about I eat a hot pot at that mall all the time um it’s by one of the parking garages it looks almost like uh an Apple store but painted lavender and it has like a weird gilded logo of like a brioche toast and it’s brick b-r-i-q-east no it’s not fructose it is simply brick and what it is Nicole is they serve one thing and it is Dwayne The Rock Johnson’s favorite cheat meal it is a giant brick of French toast so it’s egg custard all that and then on top of it are like coconut chips Maple agave syrup and like peanut butter and that’s the only thing I serve but yum right you wouldn’t have any way to title that dish other than just calling it something made up and they made up Bleak it’s French it’s sexy have I ever seen anybody in that store not even close except me because Julie and I saw it oh yeah you got it was it so good of course yeah it was coconut chips yeah oh there’s like the coconut chips like salted too it was just a delight um that said you take something like brick you know and you just add that to like you know meatloaf you just call it like the freak freak loaf just let me freak you know what I mean like we can have pretty glove sounds much better than meatloaf yeah can we can we close no we can’t make it the Mind Freak loaf we must oh Chris Angel actually he has a restaurant what’s it called it’s okay wait no can someone Google what Chris Angel’s restaurant’s called because it was just a series of letters with no vowels and it was like sebulp it was like cblp or something and it made no sense that said was it in Vegas or something what Chris Angel’s breakfast lunch and pizza Cabo we can order pickup nothing makes sense about any of this breakfast lunch and pizza the three meals of the day breakfast lunch and pizza [Music] their few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcherbox the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier Quality Meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcher box ships a curated selection of high quality meat right to your home there’s free shipping for the continental US and there’s 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right it is no it is I just hate that it is but like length matters you know and I’m saying it’s not when it’s too long it’s not sexy we need a short little discreet balls and that’s what makes it sexy it’s the length that really makes it not sexy I’m serious I’m so glad my parents don’t listen to this podcast you’re treating this as a joke if my parents isn’t in this podcast they would pull me out hey Morrison shallow I’ll text you the link like you guys know how like they like pull out like what’s it called they extract people from like yeah yeah I’m getting you home like they did in Fargo I didn’t I haven’t seen Fargo but I had such a bad movie listen to a bunch of podcasts about cults and that’s what they do they send in an extractor and they drag them out and they’re like no I want to stay with like Lords xenor or whatever he’s making me sell jellies and gems and we don’t get to sleep and every time I take the pills at breakfast it makes me feel funny you know Cults are not a joke but Josh no but like yes and all all intents and purposes is that the same all intents and purpose for all intensive purposes purposes are intensive for all intensive purposes the most intensivist of purposes for all intents and purposes yeah um yes it is I just hate I just don’t like the fact that it is but it is what it is and what am I to do to stop it nothing we need Chris Angel on board do we know what he’s doing today because I’m pretty sure his restaurant shut down no no you can order a pickup oh can you really did was that an option for Campbell yes and it’s in Nevada um he’s not doing anything today I know people I feel like Chris Angel was given the Nickelback treatment where people have made him into a bit of a punch line but like actually both Chris Angel and Nickelback kind of dope at their Peak can we all agree on that I listened to Nickelback at home sometimes yeah and I’m not ashamed of it you know why people even know who the hell Nickelback is because they’re really good at what they do if they were just a bad band nobody would know them Creed that’s the lead singer’s name and Scott Stapp from Creed they were both icons Scott staff Chad Kroger Chris Angel we need to get this triumphant on board Nicole to advocates for not for not for meatballs but for for freecloaf we need to get Chris Angel Chad Kroger and Scott Stapp one Scott Stapp does need money he put out just like an Instagram video of him going like hey I’m in a bad place I really need money really yeah it’s actually pretty sad but but but this could go from sad to happy because we have an opportunity for him because here’s the thing when you make meatballs Nicole yes you’re probably making them what like you know let’s say an eighth of a pound at a time you get eight meatballs into a pound I like meatballs I make them I haven’t made one time I made meatballs and David said never make meatballs again so I don’t make meatballs anymore why were they so bad they were I didn’t put it he just mean no he’s not mean he was honest he didn’t I didn’t put any bread crumbs in and I didn’t put any and it was just like straight meat and like spices and he got really I thought you like cooked do you just not have it because I’ve I’ve been there where I like don’t have breadcrumbs and I’m like rummaging through my old expired cracker drawer in the fridge and I’m like what can I Buzz up in a food processor I know how to cook it was just and then I’m like maybe we don’t need all the binders and stuff it would just like straight meat and then he’s like yeah don’t make these anymore I said okay sorry the other day I was making meatballs and I didn’t have any bread crumbs I thought I had bread crumbs I didn’t I didn’t want to you know admit to jewels that I just forgot to get out of the store and so I took like everybody in La has freezer burnt pita bread from zenku chicken in the freezer I do because it’s not from Zankou but I do have freezer burnt because I always get multiple family meals they’ll give you like 16 Pita Breads and I’m like one person yes uh and so I took some freezer burnt Pita and just blended it up while it was frozen it was so burnt that it was dehydrated uh and it worked but it tasted like freezer yeah which wasn’t great okay so we got Scott Stapp Chad Kroger and Chris Angel all on board to celebrate free club we do like a viral activation where we have you know I mean obviously we get Snappy in croags they’re on the vocals you know we got a backup band We’re not gonna have any budget left for backup bands so it’s mostly just going to be like Maggie with the keytar you know what I mean you play guitar I could play the tambourine Mega Blade that’s great Nicole don’t make this about you and then and then we get Chris Angel to make a freak loaf disappear we make the world’s largest meatloaf do you like what Kim Jong-un does you know to get positive press for for North Korea where he just beats random World Records named Guinness there we get to make the world’s largest free gloaf and then Chris Angel disappears not not the freak loaf he disappears himself and then he’s just gone and then people like what happened to Chris Angel and then he’s the cast of selling Sunset and they’re just there digging in if that doesn’t raise Meatloaf’s negative reputation I don’t know what will we have to can we crowdfund this I think it’s a great idea I mean if Scott Stapp couldn’t just crowdfund his own rent I don’t know if you know maybe we can do this we can do unbelievable things in this world and I think the 40 clove World Tour is bound to happen Nicole when your arms are wide open um anything’s possible is what I’m saying yes I agree but I do also agree with the statement that a meatloaf is just a long meatball and a meatball is just little itty Bitties of a meatloaf yeah yeah and then a hamburger is a disc of a meatloaf well well no yes well yeah I’m sorry we didn’t actually get into it no I’m saying we didn’t get into the Guy Fieri theorism of any of this are you talking about Diners Drive-Ins and Dives well one okay the other day we worked from home and I had triple D on for eight hours in the background it was incredible I was watching season 41. like you my dad yeah kind of we could probably be in the same room for a while together and just be silent watching Guy Fieri uh no but anytime somebody adds breadcrumb and egg to a burger guy figures goes well that’s a meatloaf and they’re like no it’s my burger recipe I’ve been working on it for 35 years he goes That’s a meatloaf and I agree with him yeah I do too I think when you make it I’m trying to get me to like argue with you no well no I’m just no but I’m saying you said you said Nicole you said that if you make a like a disc meatloaf that’s a burger I don’t agree with that a disky meatloaf is a meat disk no it’s a hamburger it’s not a no a hamburger doesn’t it’s a type of hamburger of hamburger who puts eggs in hamburger meat I don’t know people and like bread crumbs is weird I think it is weird too I’ma do it I guess so it probably tastes really good probably it’s hardly just you know extend the life of the meat you know if there’s one thing we’ve learned it’s that uh God Chris Angel what are you doing uh and if there’s another thing we’ve learned it’s that you take spices vegetables uh breads things like thin out the protein add flavors you add it to to ground chopped meat that’s a really good thing that the world over loves okay however somehow we’ve all agreed that balls are the sexiest shape so sexy and and I’m here to concede that maybe loaves aren’t [ __ ] me up well that’s what I’m saying bread balls who’s eating bread balls out there garlic knots you get your balls Twisted in the nut that’s called testicular torsion and it’s actually like the most painful thing anyway I’ve heard about having a friend and he had to drive himself to the hospital yeah um but no I wasn’t no but that freaks me out every time yeah like crossed my legs too fast and get scared yeah it’s actually a card in uh Cards Against Humanity really yeah what other shapes could we possibly take because at this point I understand that loves might not be the sexiest but is there another sexy a rhombus um do you know what a rhombus is dude no one knows what a rhombus and rhombus is uh two equal sides and two equal sides no no I believe that a rhombus is um it’s a quadrilateral it’s definitely oh that’s quadrilateral but but but but I believe a rhombus has yes two pairs of symmetrical sides I know but hold on but the but the the the the angles are agnostic they think there might be a god a collateral quadrilateral yeah so it doesn’t have to have like right angle it’s like a right angle a rectangle is a a rhombus dude we’re so dumb dude what is this podcast what are we doing today I’m saying like Chris Angel rhombuses I’m sorry wrong by that’s a good Scrabble word because not a lot of things end in i and then you get H is worth four points and m and b are both three so if you can hit like ROM by um on like a you know trip Award with maybe a couple modifiers um Maggie’s now Googling sexiest meat Shades oh what about what about a ham dog if you’re the ham dog do you think ham dogs we’re talking about hand of meat yes sausage yeah right well here’s here’s where is a meatloaf a sausage oh God it’s a free form right because like think about sausage patties what are sausage patties if not meatloafs I agree and what is the difference between like you did a burger battle remember the Burger Battle we did you made a sausage pack can we can we address this can we address this because Nicole’s saying that I made a sausage patty when I did not I made an andouille spiced burger patty with equal parts Pork and Beef Nicole do you know what it did what the hell you know what it did it what do you mean it’s a pork burger it’s a bird made out of pork do you know why I don’t know why it wasn’t a sausage Nicole why did you happen to sorry um because I want to get closer you just like you actually really a costume when did I add the salt Nicole one tell me tell me tell me what I added the salt speaks in this microphone speaking of mine I think you added the salt on top before you you put it on the on the grill just before I put it on the grill Nicole that does not a sausage make and that is where I believe but wasn’t there salt in the seasoning unsalted unsalted seasoning I put no Donny sasheries inside there I unsalted it and that was deliberate because I hate when burgers are sausages because they’re Burgers so you can spice a burger you just can’t salt it until right before it goes on the grill otherwise the meat cures and so so so so if we’re talking our meatloaves and meatballs sausages no I know it’s a radical sausage maximalist I say yeah if you pre-season a hamburger and then it’s a sausage and I believe that there are maybe fast food burgers out there that could qualify as sausages I’m not out there trying to get them to rewrite the laws about this yet yeah because I don’t have Chris Angel on this side yet we will once he disappears and comes out I really like Chad Kroger Chad Kroger come on the show look at this graph but no I think if you’re pre-salting and spicing meats and adding things to them I think that is a sausage I think you have to either concede that or concede that a free-form sausage patty outside of casing is not sausage because what else are you judging it off of what’s the difference between a Jimmy Jimmy Dean log of pork or even think about like um black pudding something that has like oats in it to cut what’s the difference between that and a meatloaf just spicy not much not much all right so they’re all just sausages I guess so now we need to figure out how we can get a sausage big enough for Chris Angel to disappear into and then out of what if he gets stuck and you can’t break through the giant case he will he’s Chris Angel there’s nothing here magic is real what’s the other one David Blaine yeah but David Blaine’s like not like real okay so this is David they’re both real and they’re spectacular I mean like Chris Angel like he he kind of looks like a pickup artist I know and that’s hot no okay that’s also true if you think Chris Angel was not you’re just friends and then David Blaine was also and then and then who’s the other one David Copperfield he’s old school he disappeared the uh Statue of Liberty um but no David Blaine one of his magic tricks is he just eats a wine glass and the trick is that there’s no trick he’s just eating a wine glass yeah my dad’s friend did that one time and he scared the living crap out of me and I’m like I don’t want to be around anymore Ali and he’s like new is a joke and I said don’t eat glass in front of me anymore Uncle Ali and he’s like okay [Laughter] no sometimes joke’s just backfire Ollie was like yo she’s gonna dig this so much it was so weird she just ate he did a lot of like cool like like things like that and he was like we were at a party and one time he just went home and ate a glass yeah and I’m like what is going on and I was so scared of my mom like I shouldn’t be extracted me from the room Michelle if you’re outside the store trying to extract Nicole I swear to God I swear to God [Music] all right Nicole you’ve heard what you and I have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] uh but hey Nicole before we get into the opinions or like casseroles it rhymes with aceroles I want to tell you about a new podcast I just discovered from mythical entertainment called best friends back all right yeah starring Stevie win Levine and Negan homeifar it’s a really cool it is really good I like to listen to it it makes me feel like I am their friend you know what I mean no I agree okay so uh Stevie and Nadine they were best friends in high school and then they hadn’t spoken in over a decade and then they are now reconnecting they’re going back through all old high school memories they’re talking about the Dare program uh drinking at College hiding stuff from their parents friendships the weird clicks uh it made me feel like I was back in high school and made me really nostalgic I really enjoyed it yeah I like genuinely look forward to every episode that comes out on Friday and I’m sure listeners if you listen you will enjoy it as well all right add stew follow it I’m currently drinking what I call Rocket League fuel one-thirds sved go one-third spray one-third blue Gatorade uh Nicole rocket league is a video game I know your husband plays it yes well he hasn’t played it in a long time because he’s being a man yeah it makes sense I’m a little boy who plays video games video games I will say okay if I’m judging this as a cocktail uh Sprite blue Gatorade svenka I think it needs more acid to cut through a lot of that I’d go squirts oh gatorade’s gonna hydrate you so that’s gonna keep you focused you get the electrolytes sprite’s gonna taste good be a little fizzy fedco’s Gonna Get You just drunk enough to get into the rocket League Zone which like beer pong there’s a point at which you are like a little buzzed and you are better than you’ve ever been but then you drink one drink too much and then suddenly uh all your nine-year-old Argentinian rocket league teammates are just calling you names in the chat because you suck so I get this I would have done Blue Curacao this can just stock Blue Curacao you know I have it in one house do you really yeah what do you make with it I make a cocktail called the blue Otter Pop and it’s really good and one time I’ll make it for you I love that uh Max Max all tool one two four says I’m just gonna say it I like good instant Ramen more than actual Ramen there’s always just something a bit underwhelming about Roma whenever I have it at a restaurant compared to other Asian soups and it just doesn’t satisfy like the cheap stuff I don’t believe I can relate some there’s something really like uh how do I explain it like not nostalgic it’s like uh like you’re eating poor people food you know what I mean yeah when you’re eating like a cup of ramen this is like this is you know hearkening back too this is 50 Cents I am nourishing my body with hot liquid and starch and deeply comforting very good spiritual level I love instant Ramen agreed my mom never let me had it unless it was the kosher stuff so I really love it do we we’ve lived up in sarama and it would be 10 for 10 it would be 10 for a dollar yes yes for bricks at like especially 99 Cents yeah 99 Cents store would have some of the like bootleg ass flavors which was so good like the chili shrimp stuff not even that jalapeno chip they had a fettuccine alfredo flavor one that was just like Dairy solids and awesome so good um so I I get the like satisfaction about that but maybe you’re just like eating it you know not great Ramen spots there’s something to me very spectacular about like a good bowl of like tonkotsu Ramen or like Ramen it’s not my personal favorite just because I Ramen tends to be very kind of like rich and very Savory you can’t have it all the time in my opinion Ramen like crushing a bowl of ramen is like a once a month spectacular an outside Ramen but like at home having it once a week makes sense yeah when I’m like like sick Ramen is one of the best foods yeah yeah do you love that Vietnamese man Vietnamese soups to me just like really hit different so good yeah I love the herbaceousness um so I you know sometimes get it and ramen went through a big uh is still going through a big cultural moment you know in America where people are like oh my God fancy Ramen so good a lot of chains are coming here from Japan yeah um so again it is like a little bit over represented in terms of like noodle soups yeah all right at Joe Meador Junior Pringles are just mass-produced latkes and white chocolate is closer to Cocoa Butter than chocolate Okay Okay Okay Pringles are just mass-produced latkes no right I think so Pringles for people who don’t know it’s not a whole sliced potato chip uh like lays they’re just slicing potatoes and frying them covering them oil Pringles they like desiccate the potato they grind it up into like a paste into a dough and then they shape it into the Pringle shape and so I get what they’re saying that it’s like a Patty made from processed but it’s a stretch it’s not fried like that yeah yeah no no clever you’re clever Joe you’re clever and I like that you’d be a good lawyer and I may have run into legal trouble soon so I met in Egypt white chocolate is closer to Cocoa Butter than chocolate yeah white chocolate’s like white chocolate’s chocolate I mean I don’t I worked at a chocolate store and I say white chocolate’s chocolate so when I say this like it yeah it doesn’t matter the chocolatey yes BS not chocolate do you think cocoa powder is closer to Chocolate than white chocolate is your chocolate no it’s not bloody do you think the flavor do you think cocoa nibs are closer they’re like a hot sauce without Peppers is hot sauce yes it is yeah I have said mustard is hot sauce which it is we might have to discuss the Link in an actual podcast Rachel Baldwin says during my freshman year of college my roommate would consistently purchase a head of red cabbage to snack on I would come into the living room after Zoom classes and both she and the Cabbage would be perched on the couch thoughts yo I love raw cabbage raw red cabbage is so good I love it but you have to like cut it into like squares or rectangles you can’t shred it it’s not good shredded you don’t like it the thought of it I love raw red cats yo Nicole I brought pickled red cabbage I’m getting ready for this stuff I want the raw I wasn’t offering you any I was just telling you that I I have recently like eaten munched on raw red cabbage as I was pickling it the pickles that you are not entitled to because that’s my lunch from home um uh there’s something like it’s so hard and waxy you know there’s like I can like taste the lactobacillus on the outside of it but it’s fun I guess it’s fun but like a cucumber that’s a night oh my God a raw bell pepper what a fun raw bell pepper is one of the best raw broccoli the other day for the first time in a while and I was like this is pretty good it’s like woodsy I just think there’s like eight vegetables and I’m a huge cabbage fan I think there’s like eight or nine vegetables you would rather eat plain than just snack on red cabbage I’ve never seen someone eat more cabbage than you though my thought thank you my thoughts I’m so gassy my thoughts though they were both perched on the couch I’m imagining both the person the roommate kind of like on all fours like a Gargoyle on top of the couch with the Cabbage just next to her maybe hmm at figonia too I don’t get sweet and salty snacks now what I’m eating is unhealthy in two ways I’m fine with just one flavor this is the most adventurous person in the world I know they’re limited to one flavor in their snacks Nicole just one come on come on baby come on sweet and salty delicious and yummy you know come on like healthy unhealthy it’s a false dichotomy everything in moderation but like people if they think that like sugar is just bad for you your your body like uh breaks any sort of carbohydrate down sugar correct a thing where I didn’t understand how this exactly worked until I think I talked to a nutritionist about it for a story I asked whether or not ripe bananas had like more sugar in them than non-ripe because it like tastes sweeter right but the caloric difference you know that couldn’t really change during a ripening process cut it and they were like it’s just starch converting to Sugar which is what happens over time yeah and so it’s just like well if you’re if you’re already eating starts with salt on it that’s effectively eating sugar and so you know if you’re really like nitpick if you’re if you were someone who’s so worried about your health that you’re nitpicking on that it’s just don’t eat snacks ever don’t eat snacks yeah leave them with the rest of us I was snacking on those uh Filipino adobo flavored cracker peanuts and my buddy a meal brought from the Philippines what you know like yeah yeah oh I met him he was probably like lounging on a daybed he falls asleep a lot oh me too yeah oh my God I love napping with people oh he’s the best he’s such a good Napper oh and Cal speak says today at my as my hangover breakfast I ate cottage cheese with some black pepper and a side of seaweed salad 10 out of 10 would recommend would you um I feel like I’m barfing oh that’s okay that’s what I was saying but that could be a benefit for a hangover breakfast I like to help you barf yeah like uh what do they call an expectorate like you take a medicine that makes you Plum yeah yeah you could just you know because that to me is a I I would eat this no no this is a pretty bad combination of things yeah if I’m being honest and listen I understand weird hangover Cravings I often crave cold chopped liver on just like cold bread when I’m hungover so I get it um but this to me is a great recipe if you’re like hey I want to flush the system clean Start Anew you know then I think you should yeah so it sounds like it’s serving multiple purposes and I think that’s cool at shiny failure Flamin Hot Fritos are so much better than their Cheeto cousins and it pisses me off it pisses me off that I’m only ever able to find them in Road Trip gas stations wait Road Trip gas stations that’s a thing right yeah the best gas stations are the ones that are like in the middle of nowhere no I don’t know I like the really Swank ones that have like Nutella I feel like those are the ones in the middle of nowhere though no like you’re driving up the Grapevine along the five up to NorCal through Bakersfield and you like there’s one gas station and it’s like an oasis really you know it’s like natural beef jerky in there I really I like the ones that look like there’s been no human in there since 1996. and the man at the counters like he has a cowboy hat and like a name tag that’s not his name yeah those are the ones I like to go to the really Barren sadness who did he kill for that name that’s what I’m saying he obviously doesn’t work they’re doing a cowboy hat on the clock I had I had to really learn to appreciate Fritos as an adult I love Flamin Hot Fritos a lot they’re good cornier Corner that’s the biggest part you taste the corn in the Fritos oh good yeah this is a good opinion this is a great opinion the Cody Mooney says why are all of my opinions like books they’re so long was just eating some chips cooked in avocado oil and I was wondering if y’all think Boutique oils are scam I personally don’t taste the difference between KFC fryer sludge and grass fret grass feet this is spelled wrong why’d you have to call them out you know I said grass man why aren’t you such a crap grass-fed free range oil in my chips also health benefits three question marks what’s y’all’s thoughts is that good do you want to get ice cream Maggie that was pretty good uh I can taste the difference I can taste the difference I just don’t think it’s better I just don’t care enough to like mention it like um your fire or fire oil tastes really bad okay can you switch it well sometimes I can taste like dirty old fry oil yeah and to me that’s the difference between a good filet of fish and a great fillet of fish I love Filet-O-Fish secret get it extra crispy yeah well you but then if the fry oil is old then it’s just a good flavor fish you can kind of taste the Nuggets built up in there uh but no like avocado oil chips God everyone is gonna always have opinions about this is shifted over time whether margarine is good whether margarine is bad weather butter is good but only grass-fed butter is good butter is bad but also add it to your coffee and I’m gonna be super jacked doing CrossFit drinking butter coffee every day avocado oil is the only good thing olive oil is healthy except you can’t heat it to anything that would ever cook a food because then you get the cancer avocado oil is the best thing for you however 75 of avocado oil is just fake it’s a scam there’s actually a huge fraud problem with it so I don’t don’t care I don’t care there’s too much like information and misinformation that like the answer to everything is all is just going to be I don’t care eat a diverse amount of foods in moderation and listen to your body that is the only diet advice if you want to eat the chips eat the chips that make you the happiest you know and then like figure out the rest of your life the avocado oil chips are never going to be the thing that is going to push you from like Health to unhealth sure no you know what I mean absolutely it’s like shooting a BB gun at like a tank it’s just like it’s a little ping off the glass do tanks have glass I don’t think so anyway eat the chips and make it the happiest uh no there’s no health benefits to it and I’m a doctor big underscore cookie says bell pepper burps are the best burps um cucumber burps are also good I don’t like any burps that taste like food no oh my god dude I was getting I get mad that my body just doesn’t metabolize and it’s like okay be gone no it’s like a fun little Essence I wish though this happened more with farts ew oh my God what do you mean to you no but if it’s like a good food like you eat like some lavender ice cream and then your your tummy is acting up you get the hot toots from the dairy and then what have you just Nicole you just like farted like a Glade plug-in you know what I mean I think I want to do that we have to have the technology to be able to perfume our farts yeah it’s a special kind of underwear don’t ask me how I know that where can one purchase this underwear do they make it for men I’ll wear ladies underwear I don’t care it makes me feel Sleek like a dolphin it’s unisex and also I will send you the link later talk about freakloaf all right on that note thank you so much for stopping by a hot dog is a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every Wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on Twitter at mythical Chef or and handyzada with the hashtag opinion casserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on YouTube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your radical dishes hit us up on Instagram at mythical kitchen we’ll see y’all next time [Music]