ramble hey before we get into today’s episode we want to tell you about good mythical evening for one night only we are bringing you good mythical evening streaming exclusively on moment house get your ticket for a most indecent sloshy and random show that takes our classic good mythical morning favorites and torches the rulebook the show is live september 1st to jumpstart the labor day weekend tickets are on sale right now at goodmythicalevening.com josh you seem deep in thought what are you thinking about god nicole i’m just i’m trying to understand the art of pasta pork chicken and lamb i think i have someone who can help us out with that wait really is he a happy hungry man traveling all across the sea in the land yeah this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs this sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh share and i’m your host nicole initially and today we are joined by a very special guest phil rosenthal phil’s the award-winning creator and most lovable host of netflix’s most popular food and travel show somebody feed phil he also co-hosts a podcast called naked lunch that nicole and i are excited to be guests on soon film film phil f-h-i-f phil welcome to the studio nice nice to be here thanks for that lovely intro have you had lunch yet i have had a tuna fish sandwich oh yes yes tell us about this tuna fish sandwich sing us a song i’m here to say i’m here to say a tuna fish sandwich is a sandwich 100 right we can all agree on that should we get right into it sure if you want if you want to talk about if hot dog is a sandwich you’re more than one we’re on your podcast now let’s do it i think a hot dog is a sandwich there’s objective truth in the world right i mean it it let’s clarify a hot dog is a sandwich but that sandwich is called a hot dog i phil i used to be just like you uh for anybody who has not listened to our five-part series that we just did please go back and listen to it because this clarified more things in my life it is a type of sandwich well and and we call this particular sandwich a hot dog i’m sorry i would though argue that i don’t agree with you i’m sorry i’m not making eye contact with you nicole is like she never won’t look at me no she’s just i just i can’t silently i can’t we just met and we’re finished just with this conversation if you want to talk about something else can you turn off the freaking cameras jesus i i’m somebody who i’ve never met a person like this i’m normally very charged this isn’t even politics no this is how i thought this was gonna be safe oh you’re going on this nice thing hot dog is a sandwich this woman’s gonna kill me phil you have no idea what we’ve been through over the last five weeks okay we almost got a friend divorce we we had a lawyer we talked about this with a lawyer that we were considering a friend divorce but we reconciled yeah that’s sweet yeah we actually care about each other that’s nice yeah she’s that’s what i’m a psycho she passed the background check there was no background check i just waltzed in and you’re like you’re hired yeah she interviewed once for 15 minutes and we’re like well who else are we gonna get the job but wait josh you said you had a philosopher weigh in on this like he’s a philosopher they’re like leprechauns calling our guest leprechauns i don’t like it you can call me one uh i’d be there i eat lucky charms earlier phil you host a fantastic show on netflix and what i found in my travels and one of the great things about traveling the world is finding the equivalence of things that we have here so i found that every culture has their equivalent of a sandwich they like to every every handheld thing whether it’s in a lettuce wrap or a roll or a thing it’s their sandwich well let me let me let me ask a question then yeah why do we need to say sandwich why can’t we just say handheld thing because my official proposal because all these things because it’s not as sexy to say i say i’d like her own word tuna and right hand-held thing yeah oh my god i would love it i say a hand food simply a they literally say hand foods i think so do they people tell tell me if i’m wrong i think that would solve the entire problem because the name for a sandwich before sandwich was meat and bread shakespeare writes about meat and bread you would go to a vendor who’s yelling meat and bread meat and bread you go give me one meat and bread and they existed for a hundred years in bread and bread and and not in bread meat meat and bread but meat in bread is pretty much the definition of a type of sandwich just like you were saying inbred no no intermarriage your meat is in the bread that’s a sandwich right not inbred people [Laughter] my my cows the wild part of the group yeah i don’t know you’re not saying inbred meat meat well in this bread holder i used to write about a lot of animal husbandry and i went and saw some of it in person but they’re all related right the pigs wait talk to me about these international sandwiches and talk to me about like finding cultural similarities and everywhere you go well like the bow yeah like you mentioned the bow that is i’ve thought about but that’s their hand-held food it’s like their sandwich a friend of mine recently made me where was it oh and portland oregon peter cho made food city made a burger cheeseburger bao holy cow is that good i’m sure wow it kind of reinvented burgers just because it’s a closed end roll yeah well is that a sandwich or a dumpling you know it’s both it’s both both i think at some point when we try and classify things too much which is the entire point of our podcast yes i think you ruined it you know what it’s like what you’re doing right here what it’s like the equivalent of explaining a joke you kill the joke yeah if you go at it you’ve killed hot dogs for me now yeah oh i don’t want to do that and i love options i want it i want you to hold hot dogs on a higher pedestal that’s what i want that’s what i want everyone to do um i am a hebrew national girl nice i heard they were sold i heard they’re not going to be kosher anymore i heard that i heard that too what’s going to happen i don’t know i’m sorry brazilian meat what do you mean you’re still going to love them still going to eat them they’re delicious i can tell you the worst one okay go for it dodge your dog yeah oh yeah they’re bad they’re bad in my religion that’s called the shonda ashanda yes i always go to the the the kosher hot dog line instead they have the brooklyn version because people from new york who came here and many of us did had their regular dodger dog and wanted to die it’s a limb zero percent beef it’s a limp horrible skinless lukewarm baloney of a product i agree and it has no snap which is as we know essential right agreed uh it’s so friggin i don’t want to curse on your shoulder so close to curse just comment down is there anything that’s so terrible i haven’t done that it looks like a migraine is about really over i don’t know how these people get away with this but that just shows you that a good time is related to a childhood memory right yes like those pixar movies right these are core memories for people it doesn’t matter that the hot dog is awful it’s associated with my first trip to dodger stadium with my dad so i love it yeah and i love the dodge dog and don’t say anything bad about a dodge dog but i’m telling you people don’t eat that unless you have a memory tied to it no even then even then you have to kill yourself you have to know i don’t want to kill anybody you know i’m going to talk about killing gods and stuff i just want to go eat a good hot dog somewhere but again i just think hot dogs deserve their place in the world as being its own standalone thing and i think putting it into a taxonomy what is it taxonomy yeah yeah putting it in like in like taxonomy is just is just exhausting and we don’t need to do it anymore we don’t need it i once ate 11 dodger dogs i sure did absolutely disgusting thank you so much don’t you go to nathan’s and do that contest we just got back well i didn’t compete um but we we went to interview joey chestnut about whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich he of course says no uh but uh i also asked joey chestnut to um coach me and how to eat a hot dog as fast as i could and and uh it was so awkward and embarrassing that the nathan’s hot dog mascot had to usher me away from him in a way that i’ve never been lower on a social totem pole than a man in a hot dog suit until that day and and then i was and i saw him without his hot dog suit later and he was like hey sorry man i was like it’s all good i probably deserved it joey chestnut had a broken he had a torn achilles yeah and he was really sick and i like a blood vessel yeah and we really baby hot dogs aren’t the healthiest food maybe to eat 70 of in 10 minutes that’s disgusting i had a great time in this dodger game they have i hate i hate when this thing i love yeah food in general it’s turned into any kind of competition and oh so you’re not a cooking competition no joe fan at all interesting when they first came out i was kind of interested yeah and i did like uh the the the ones uh you know with padma mm-hmm sure it might be because of her yeah but i like that true very talented and i liked colicchio and i liked the the whole thing and for a season or two i was interested and that had enough yeah i mean i don’t want to disparage that show it’s just for me i see cooking and great restaurants and great chefs as artists art it’s an art form yeah even a hot dog sure right 100 can be you you know when you have a great one to me my favorite thing is when somebody elevates the very simple food from our childhood shirt and and makes it the best thing you ever had i think that goes right to the core of my memories as a kid and it becomes this the most favorite the most special thing is is taking that burger that hot dog that pizza that’s something that we know very very well and now it’s the best you ever had why because of the ingredients and the talent of the person making of course i don’t watch any cooking shows no i try to because i i work because i produce so much cooking content i do it’s exhausting for me to go home and click on and see people cooking and it’s tedious right to do it’s like it’s like make work almost i sit there and i cross my arms and i’m like they shouldn’t have edited that way like why did why did they do the potatoes oh so they’ve ruined food for you oh they haven’t ruined food i like to like i loved somebody feed film like i like travel shows like that because it’s not as it’s not a cooking show it’s not a cooking show it’s a reading show very little process involved i’m not interested yeah it’s like it’s like you like magic so what if somebody come out and before they did the trick for you they showed you how they make the trick end of magic the magic goes away the magic goes away so i would i nothing i love more than you sit down in bangkok and they give you a plate of food surprise yeah but i think you don’t think that because i’ve i’ve gone through this over and over i used to be a food journalist yeah my whole job was to figure out the techniques and the methods and the regions in the history behind everything and i was worried that i was ruining food for myself because i would go eat a meal and i’d be like that plating technique is so four years ago oh my god oh you’re putting this stuff leaves i knew he was gonna break up sometimes but i also think that that has heightened the best of the best experiences for me and it’s created a sort of science curve as opposed to like i have no room in my life for mediocre food anymore which has given me a sense of clarity nicole i’ve gone clear wow you’re a nerd i am sorry but isn’t it oh my god i like it i like i like people who get very into things they like yeah and and so i like you and i like i like you and i liked you you like me you stop it you like me i do i’m afraid of you although yeah it happens it’s fine but i i wasn’t gonna say i love i love the surprise i don’t want to ruin the surprise and if you over study and over analyze and maybe if i do if i do somebody feed phil for the for too many years what if i don’t like travel anymore what if i i’m so particular because i’ve had the best of the best yeah that i don’t like it i’m not there yet i still here’s how i feel i’m the luckiest guy you’re ever going to have on this damn show i don’t speak lamia is the one who spills soup uh is the one who it lands on that’s right very very jewish of you yes oh this whole room’s used but yeah yeah yeah i just know myself let me complain for a while let’s commence over here you know how tucci says uh uh tucci says i’m italian on both sides my name is standing two i’m italian on both sides and i’ll be exploring my heritage so i would like to come out once on on my show and say my name is phil rosenthal and i’m jewish on both sides and i’d like to spend the rest of the hour complaining the lights are too hot can we turn them down [Music] we love food here on a hot dog as a sandwich obviously but that doesn’t mean we love spending precious hours in the grocery store and meal planning when we could be i don’t know hanging out with friends or working out or whatever you do and that’s why we say hello to hellofresh hello hellofresh gives you farm fresh pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep it makes home cooking easy fun and affordable getting back into the fall season can be busy but weeknights can be made so much easier with simple recipes ready in around 30 minutes or less how simple are they so simple their step-by-step recipes are foolproof and just because it’s easy it doesn’t mean it’s low quality heck no it doesn’t 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when you go home uh-huh don’t you want to kind of disconnect that part of your head oh she drinks yeah no no that’s how we solve it we drink yeah last week oh yeah that was great by the way i don’t think you’re alone in this well i’m good because you had a completely separate career from food that’s right show runner and creator of everybody it was completely tied to food yeah that makes sense i did i did a show once before i had uh raymond i was on a hit show i won’t name the show but that show they sent a memo around okay this was a hit show on a big network on the official stationary of the show we noticed some of you are coming in the morning and putting milk on your cereal the milk is for coffee the cereals are for snacks we do not provide breakfast for you please do not put milk on your cereal oh i don’t like that can you believe it and i read this and i said right then and there if i’m ever lucky enough to have my own show we’re going to have milk on our cereal one can dream and we did we had the best ask anybody the best craft service in town because the army travels on its stomach and i knew that if i had been on shows where the craft service table you know for those of you who don’t know craft service table is the table set up usually on the set or at the office where they have the snacks for people during the day and if there’s just crap like like uh chips or candy or gum or whatever it is you grab it and you go on your way and it’s and you overdo it because that’s the only respite from the work and you do it but what if the food was fabulous on that crap service day but what if once in a while deli from new york was flown in what if what if uh ann sather’s cinnamon rolls from chicago were brought in and they were hot oh my god what if uh when krispy kreme donuts first came out you can get hot fresh ones on the tip what if uh taco trucks were brought onto the soundstage during shoot night and people were this before the whole truck crazy i’m telling you you create such good will you literally create a family by having decent food for people i agree so it’s a way of showing love i agree right yeah we we had bill oakley on the podcast i love him yeah he’s great fantastic i mean loves food loves the type of food that i love especially with all the all the things hilarious simpsons utterly hilarious and he he showed how food can be a way to show spite because he was talking about how all of the the writers room lunches during the simpsons when you know they were famously crapping on fox all the time with all the jokes in there and fox couldn’t do anything because it was such a hit show yeah and he said he used to just order like 10 lobster tails five shrimp cocktails a couple steaks on lunch and they would just make a game of running up the lunch tab as much as possible until forcing somebody to come in and you know set institutional sort of limits on that thing yeah and so i never did that i never took advantage that way yeah although i will say that for a while for a long while if you’re a writer you know i always say that the writer’s room is like a veal pen the only sunshine coming in the room is the menu where we’re going to order lunch from and this was such so important to me this this moment of the day that i named my production company where’s lunch i love that it’s the writer’s main preoccupation right and and so we would order literally whatever we wanted we didn’t go crazy like over ordering like like these people to for spite but if somebody said is anyone getting dessert which dessert should we get i would say all of them because we have to try them all and then you know what happened i gained about 30 pounds yeah we’ve had certain uh certain catering places that we just can’t go to anymore because of lack of productivity yeah and not this isn’t coming down from a boss this is everybody got together and said hey when we get pinocchio down the street in burbank yes and just get the peniela vodka and the mostachioli and then oh it’s great the fall asleep it’s the type of tray of pasta that stays warm for nine hours like the hanukkah miracle i mean there’s just so much latent heat in there what that was eight days yeah okay well you know a big you get another one [Laughter] but yeah we would literally eat so much of it that we’re just like we can’t simply go back to work after this we we need something and so now we uh we use a carrot and a stick where we like to introduce lunch austerity measures and it’s like you get a salad from sweet green no dressing that’s it keep working that’s our style here phil you say that we don’t say that it’s just it’s it’s encouraged because we work on on a cooking show and we make so much food that is just the most wild ostentatious huge stuff you can imagine yes that your lunch can’t mirror that because your content that you’re eating is just so delicious and so decadent that’s true yes that it’s not fair to like do that twice in a day or three times in a day depending on how much content we’re shooting so i was i was at our relationship with food we just kind of need you to be our therapist yeah at this point can you both lie down but that’s the best i was at the gym the other day and i was kind of audibly burping up uh food and the the gym coach was like well what thank you so much because some people on the internet i mean uh and i was burping up the owner of the gym goes like what’d you have for lunch man i was like it you know pretty light day we had chicken farm panel vodka beef chow fun a little bit of rice because i’m going low carb oh orange chicken oh and then there was a whole wedding cake oh the chocolate lava cake that was really good but then the mint ice cream cake that really cleans the palate in a diet coke and that was a normal day phil that was a normal day that’s a normal day for us and so for us you know when we order lunch i don’t know we’ve almost taken the sacredness out of especially lunch for us because we’re locked in here with there were just 30 breakfast sandwiches in the kitchen about an hour ago and i just picked one up and ate half of it in one bite uh with no regard thinking nothing of it yeah you’re young yet no it’s fair you’ll see we’ll both see we’ll see but i i just walked through your office just for 10 seconds and i saw a beautiful spread for for everybody who works here they look fantastic they do provide for us so a dedicated craft services yeah cook who would just be making food for us all the time and she was from poland her name was monica yeah uh and she would make for my birthday phil she made me a giant pierrog is plural as i learned from monica right that’s right she and she put a candle in it it was filled with bacon and mushrooms and cheese and potato it was the phillips the pierog supreme i think you got to marry this lady i got where’s monica if you’re listening baby come back i know she was following me i married a monika yeah i did yeah is it the same don’t make that foolish [ __ ] no how is her butter phil she has other things it would be it would be incredibly stupid to ask you to rank countries so here we go so here we go if you had my favorite what are your favorites top five italy number one yeah i say it all the time when people ask what’s your favorite italy you been okay i’ve been once but i went on a contiki tour which is like a like a trip i went with like girlfriends so i went to italy for like one day and then i also went to uh a day yeah i only went to i only went to just venice just for one day were you on a cruise ship no it was it was a big bus full of 18 to 35 year olds and we went on like a big tour of like europe for 12 days it’s a bachelorette party no it was a it was a young people tour and i went with some girlfriends and so italy gets a day yep i’m gonna go back i promise you i’m going back next summer i’ve already decided i don’t want to talk to you until then why i wouldn’t no i want i do you have to i’ve been other places tell me your favorite young woman my favorite place um well i don’t know if i have a favorite but my last place was costa rica because it was really nice i haven’t been there so you win you did yeah i did and are you still married oh yes it’s actually my anniversary in like a week my one-year-old oh one year that’s so cute you have no idea what’s coming um yay and you what’s your favorite country oh i thought i asked you if i’m married uh no i have a fiance my favorite country i mean i think some of the best food i’ve ever had was in uh in tel aviv um yeah you gotta say that’s up there oh my gosh the food in israel not only is it some of the best in the world it’s now taking over the world you see the food influence everywhere like i was in copenhagen they had a falafel stand i mean it’s really it and it’s tremendous people lose their minds when they go to israel they can’t believe how great the food is one of the best things i’ve ever eaten and this sounds like weirdly pretentious in that endless way was just picking a cherry tomato off of a tree or what is it a bush a vine that’s what green was going on that’s not pretentious it was unreal it was nature yeah i guess yeah but yeah the agriculture and they’re so incredibly proud of inventing the cherry tomato in this week you know yeah israel invented is it’s the chicken pita i’ve ever had uh chicken and pita a sandwich sandwich like no no no the protein sandwich this is the producer okay oh you’re right it is a prototype because it predates the earl of sandwich yes i fully believe this correct nice i have one last question um my fiance and i i have a bit of travel anxiety yeah we’ve talked about all this being jewish i’ve i’ve gotten a little bit of the neuroticism where i don’t want to feel like a burden on somebody you know what i mean so i feel nervous when i don’t speak the language that everybody hates me right and so i am trying to plan a trip with my fiance yes um uh another bravery how about honeymoon well eventually yesterday please get married first because she won’t marry me unless we go on a big international trip together you know that’s a good rule that’s a good rule by the way that’s that you’re marrying a very smart person i know because it’s the true test of a relationship is to travel with someone because you think about it you’re never thrown together more with someone than when you travel because even if you live together see you later honey i’m going to work here i’m going to work and then you then you meet up at night and that’s it yeah right but traveling your job is to be with that person the whole day and be with them at night and every meal how do i not screw it up i’ll tell you when you go on this trip at least one day at least one maybe two or three depending on how long the trip is you go off by yourself you guys have to split up for some time it gives you a tiny break and when you meet again for lunch or dinner you got something to talk about oh that’s smart you see what’d you do what’d you do that’s right very smart i said i met a beautiful woman goodbye monica julia you heard that from phil rosenthal we got to see other people baby i love you so much no it’s very important i think monica would be the first person my monika yeah would be the first person to tell you oh yeah you need a break right i agree entirely right well thank you for saving my relationship i’m glad i could be of use it’s not all hot dogs here that’s right it’s a sandwich that’s [Music] right hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability [Music] hi nicole and phil we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] sometimes crazy stuff happens that’s called a cold open nicole we’re talking cockroach infestations bowling balls on fire aliens abducting puppies we’ve all been there in those situations a positive outlook can be a game changer which is why we’re excited to tell you about mythical’s new card game called we’re still good that’s right grab a group of friends and see who can play the best missing words to ridiculous disasters and find the most positive spin on the terrible scenario phil did we sell you on the card game all right tone it down a little i know you know what it is uh trying to be genuine high energy it’s got to be high energy that people got to know yeah don’t get so excited it’s the card game yeah we’ll do another week we’ll do that okay a little bit more i’ll go ahead so austin f wheeler says margarine is a better condiment butter is a better ingredient how do you feel about that that’s stupid roast them fail you see me but there’s no there’s in under no circumstances is margarine better for anything than butter i feel like i think people know that i feel like nicole our ancestors suffered through enough margarine so that we could eat yes butter yeah we grew up on it yeah you know i’m older than you so that was like a thing and then this thing about trans fat came out and you know it could kill you yeah why is anyone having margarine anymore unless they really have an anti-dairy yeah allergy yeah yeah or they’re like vegan but i i’m a total butter heart oh i love butter more than margarine i don’t even touch margarine anymore olive oil if you have a problem right i like margarine if if if you think about it as like uh grape jolly ranchers are to grapes yeah as margarine is to butter i like it for that it has that i shouldn’t eat those either yeah that’s right uh all right we got at spiciest nugget tomatoes are the most offensive ingredient to a standard vegetable salad the last thing i want in my mouth full of crunchy crisp veggies is a wet pocket of pulp goo i love them in other contexts though anti raw tomato in a salad that’s stupid that’s still right that’s what i’m saying you don’t want a bad tomato seriously you know what the worst thing you can do to a tomato is put in the fridge yeah yes did you know that you should never put a tomato in the fridge even even if it’s half sliced never ever because what happens all the flavor goes away really wait i just i so i know you shouldn’t put it in the fridge if you if you want to ripen of course but i had perfectly ripe tomatoes i’m using tonight and i put them in the fridge last night what are you crazy i don’t know man no one told me i’m telling you now if they’re on the vlog look it up go look online so maggie what’s your producer doing i think any good chef will tell you never put a tomato in the fridge we’re not good if we’re don’t take my word for it i want you to look on the on the the world wide web but do after they’ve already arrived yes because a perfectly ripe tomato in season yes is and i had a i actually had a jersey tomato in jersey for the first time when you picked that off the vine and it’s still warm yeah right oh man is that beautiful it’s it’s sensual it’s like i think you know the essence of a fruit tomato being a fruit depending on your definition of course is nicole it’s a tomato or fruit yes thank you you’re welcome like the essence of it is that squishiness it’s the right peach with the juice dripping down leaning into it yes that’s right yeah the decay is sexy i love a good tomato i love a good tomato i have a peanut butter opinion you guys want to listen i love it okay oh i’m sorry are you pointing what’s it saying how to store tomato this is serious eats phil they’re serious about them what do they say refrigerate any unconsumed fully ripe tomatoes but allow them to come to room temperature before serving so they’re saying once they hit ripeness put them in the fridge but don’t never put them in the fridge if they’re underrated that’s what i’m going off i see but i see yeah i think i’m a good chef phil can you please you’re a great chef thank you phil nicole okay i’m gonna speak now if that’s okay with you josh uh just the chip underscore jake says peanut butter is the bacon of the dessert world used as a crutch that’s stupid you can’t just say that that’s stupid to everything extrapolate you have to explain phenomenal one of my favorite favorite combos in the world is peanut butter and chocolate right yeah i actually helped collaborate on a flavor of ice cream in new york have you ever been a cafe panna in new york no let me plug this place did you go to new york we just got back from new york i’m dying i’m dying i can’t believe it i can’t believe you went somewhere for more than a day dude plenty i’m so excited for you when next time you’re in new york you go to the village and you go to cafe panama my friend hallie meyer okay she she her dad’s danny meyer the famous chef oh sure restaurateur he sent her over to tuscany to learn about making ice cream when she was a teenager and she learned all about gelato and she came back she took that knowledge of how to make artisanal ice cream and gelato in the service of her i’m gonna say six-year-old brain that loves ben and jerry’s yes and so it’s this artisanal mix in ice cream that’s so crazy and we collaborated on a flavor called somebody scoop phil yum and it’s chocolate peanut butter twix bar based delicious oh my god it’s so good anyway peanut butter is not a crutch it’s an essential it’s my point it’s great you have a favorite yeah i’m a big laura scudders fan oh very nice i love laura scutters i was raised in the laura scudders home but i’ll also eat jiff if it’s there yeah not justin’s can i turn you on to one yeah if you haven’t had it and i’m gonna guess that most people stay would not gravitate towards this because it’s so uh ubiquitous the name and they’re not really known for peanut butter ready yes i am smokers all natural i want you to taste it is it is it glass or plastic i think it’s glass i think i’ve had it before i i just happened to see something online where this thing won like a some kind of competition i was skeptical but you ordered ordered competitions i ordered a jar of it there’s a picture of it we’re looking at it right now yeah i’m telling you that one the first one on the left they could the one that copied laura scudder is very obviously in maggie order it maggie order six one click shopping order a palette i’m telling you or fell it tastes like just fresh roast peanuts in a very delicious way i love it i want you to taste it okay peanut butter is one of the few foods that gets me really patriotic yes cause it’s a very american thing and it’s a lot it’s like root beer where a lot of europeans will come over and be like i don’t understand why would you like this thing i’m a terrible chef i don’t have the talent the temperament the patience anything about cooking i’m terrible so when my kids were growing up i would say would you like me to make you something and they say oh yes and would you like daddy’s famous peanut butter and jelly they were stupid and they believed that this was famous and i would make or daddy’s famous eggs or daddy’s famous you know hot dog famous yeah famous just say famous to your children they’ll believe you i’m learning so much about relationships and parenting and then they’ll be terribly disappointed when they learn things all right at buckeye night says the yum brands combination restaurants were the definition of wasted potential denying the public a taco bell burrito battered and fried and kfc’s 11 herbs and spices is a crime you’ve seen the taco bell kfc hybrids yes in new york they have like you know three or four of these fast food places together so you can get a whatever but they won’t let you exchange the ingredients into individuals so you can’t yeah you know because i’m over 20. so i’m not going i’m fair right that’s fair that’s fair i i still i have a very soft spot for taco bell and i think they do very good cookery there oh i’m sure you’ll live a long time they’re beef sauce phil it’s it is it’s a bolognese it’s a ragu ragoda taco bell and it’s beautiful it’s basically italian food wow nicole i mean i already do this at my job like i don’t need to eat this you know what i don’t know we do this all the time what do you do we combine things we mix things we mash things i love a mashup i don’t need to i don’t need to see this in the wild like it’s already been done in our heads probably don’t crap where you eat yeah exactly exactly hey that saves time in the morning okay do it at the same time i’ll i’ll tell you about my special okay red berries tell the guests about it it’s a good well on your podcast well naked lunch it’s called naked lunch this is okay yeah you can talk about your naked breakfast with the kfc red berries okay okay not right now but later i want to hear it at all no he’s gonna he’s gonna tell you uh ali sauce says shallots are to onions what poblano peppers are to green bell peppers i will not be taking any questions at the time at this time this is what ali says all right enjoy yourself with that knowledge [Laughter] shallots are to onions or what poblano peppers are to green bell peppers yeah so they’re saying shallots just have more flavor and therefore more use potential than onions ditto with poblanos cream this is how i cook this is how i cook at home i agree i use shallots all the time i like i use pepperoni peppers all the time phil makes famous peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that’s right and it’s beautiful not even i can’t i don’t even have the intellectual capacity for this argument i like shallots more people should eat shallots pickled shallots fried shallots shallots in everything jean shallot jean shallot yeah nice mustache you know who he was yeah i understand like references do you only know that that’s your favorite family reference phil we only know that from family guy reference yeah but i’m just nonetheless i’m old enough to know who gene charlotte was not only that i managed to deli in new york when i was 21 years old yes in 1981 that’s how old i am and gene charlotte lived in the building and would come in and talk to me cool and we talk about uh no do you remember your order i ate everything like that i i gained 15 pounds there that that that’ll tell you how dangerous yes how dangerous a writer’s room is i gained more weight as a writer than i did as a delhi manager wow twice as much weight that’s i want to see your weight tracked by your current job and i want to gather the data do you know that i don’t gain a pound when i do the show i do not i because i’m i’m running around so much i don’t finish anything and i’m working out every day good but when i’m home and i’m off duty that’s when the pound’s coming because i’m not doing it and i’m off the clock nobody’s watching i think a very good diet for people is to have four cameras following you around at all times you’re right then you wouldn’t stuff your face so much because while people are looking at it you should write a diet book you shouldn’t show those you have the one simple trick that’s it travel with a film crew yeah wait we have we have a hot take that we actually need you to weigh in on because nicole i did a podcast pastrami versus corned beef yes where do you stand on this pastrami yeah for me i understand i understand the corn beef i understand people might not want the pepper on there and not but the best sandwich maybe in l.a talking language number 19. yes my friend john yes you yeah just in time for the end of the show we’ve joined in in an agreement uh we did it nice i feel you should say a prayer or something nicole you kick it off it yeah it was right it was hamilton there you go yeah yeah you actually called me yes actually i am saying the most you know yes you might have just gained or lost a ton of yeah we’ll find out we’ll check the numbers later it’s not important oh god on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog in the sandwich and phil thank you so much for joining us uh where can our listeners hear from you oh there’s the podcast that’s naked lunch podcast there’s the little tv thing called somebody feed phil there’s the book that’s coming called somebody feed filled the book you can pre-order that now do me a favor yeah but what else is that all you got you can see me you can see me in my house where i live with monica and the dog murray you can see me on instagram phil that rosenthal we put phil’s home address in the description no we have not done that i’m going to start a tick tock oh yeah that’s right i can’t wait for this project savage by megan if you want to come see failed dance uh go to his home uh it’ll be really beautiful and if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or end handy zarya with the opinion casserole but don’t be stupid check us out on youtube over in mythical kitchen we launch new videos every week you know the deal and of course if you want to share pictures of your delicious dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen and don’t be stupid don’t be stupid one last time i love you both [Music] here in mythical we’ve been through a lot of strange situations over the 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