hey dispatch listeners I have got some good news for you we’re back from break that’s right new episodes out now we hope to see you over there hey Josh what’s your favorite dumpling ham and cheese wait no pepperoni pizza wait no turkey broccoli cheddar those are just hot pocket flavors I said what I said this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host Josh air and I’m your host Nicole anaydi and Nicole Welcome to our big Grand Hot Pocket episode we have not done an episode entirely devoted to Hot Pockets yet but today that all changes because we’re trying to figure out what the hell they actually are the episode is titled officially is a Hot Pocket of dumpling it is ever is is what did I say I mean yes no you did I just want to emphasize the is oh why are you emphasizing this instead of saying a hop pocket a dumpling Hot Pocket dumpling hat but but hot pockets are officially called Hot Pockets brand sandwiches they’re sandwiches that’s the like legit get out of town go to the actual copyrighted lingo Hot Pockets brand sandwiches is what they’re called but we can all agree that they’re not a sandwich right they are not sandwiches no I mean like they’re closed off at the end neither you nor I ever want to discuss what a sandwich is and isn’t after our five part hot dog series you should go back and let’s do it because we’re really proud of them yeah it was good now that um but we can all agree that’s not that so we gotta classify hot pockets as something and to me like dumpling is such a large category that they could be in there I’m not saying they are why why do you have this desire and need to classify everything that comes into your orbit textualized life Nicole I grew up on hot pots do you grow up on Hot Pockets no I did not but they’re invented I had Toaster Strudels what okay I I legit would have thought as the person who not 45 seconds ago right before start this podcast Nicole goes so I’m this medical impression so um I’m watching Game of Thrones and like oh my God I love it so much and in the theme song you know the like that was invented by a Persian guy yeah yeah a Persian guy he’s half uh German half Persian and Nicole who are Hot Pockets in bed a Persian Jewish man he’s Jewish he’s Jewish he was him and his brother wow they list the actual invention as 1983 my brother is Paul and David is it Nicole is it Mirage I’m gonna say Mirage but it might be Mirage I don’t know either you’re not like you’re not like my like personal sex video on person like I was just I I am like but I am I am totally but I have answered most of my questions yeah yeah but this is like difficult because you know like everyone like for example if your name is Jamshed your name is actually Jimmy in America yeah that makes sense yeah like if your name is like berus it’s Bob or David does that’s David’s dad’s name I like beerus guy but Brothers Dave and Paul Mirage they came from Tehran in uh the 70s and then in 1977 they were like we want to get into the frozen food game and we want to make the most American thing possible like America needs a frozen microwavable sandwich freezers 1970s right women in the workplace you know post women’s Liberation movement women in the workplace people need things that they can micro wave and eat and they were like we got some science and technology that can keep the bread crispy on these quote-unquote sandwiches which is the crisping sleeve of course they invented that the crisping crisp basically I love the crisping and they were originally called tasty witches and then they didn’t take off in 77 so 1983 they officially copyrighted Hot Pockets brand sandwiches under their company Chef America which is a great name the best persian-owned name Chef America on a huge fan so that is how hot pockets were like invented to be sandwiches but they do not to me satisfy any of those they don’t categories no no no way to me they’re much closer to a dumpling but that’s like seeing a ravioli as a dumpling wait no you’re trolling right no that’s like saying the same thing no I I agree but I’m saying that like of course a ravioli is a dump what do you mean of course what do you mean what do you mean what do I mean of course dumpling a ravioli is like a classic dumpling it’s not a dumpling why how is ravioli not a dump it’s clearly not it’s something it’s a ravioli a tortellini is a dumpling are you get that F out of town okay if you at least took a position much anger Josh has much anger not little anger much anger if you were like listen dump like Italian filled pastas or not dumplings because like when you know the Marco Polo myth brought noodles over here blah blah blah they separated from the you know uh what do they call it phylogenetic tree and add you know uh convergent evolution whatever whatever I’m sorry but you think tortellini are dumplings but ravioli or not yes it is the flatness of the ravioli that just turns me completely off dumplings like what tell me what like uh um but ravioli aren’t all that flat they’re pretty flat bro [ ] okay Boyardee big boy big bowled over stuffed ravioli those are big Josh I love you more than life itself most days but we are not here to discuss if a ravioli is a dumpling where her disgust of a hot dog is a dumpling a Hot Pocket I hear every night before I go to bed here hot dog no but uh no a Hot Pocket is not no birds yeah a Hot Pocket is not a dumpling what’s a dumpling now like trying to find it because it gets it gets real time oh it’s so hard to do that I’m not very good at defining things but I’m gonna try my best uh dumpling is a piece of of bread that’s pulling over and pinched and it has to be a little thick okay and when you say bread you just mean like starch because not pasta dough when we were maybe in our like absolute losing our mind Insanity of the long hot dog series um somebody brought up when we’re doing it live the Vietnamese word bun or Ben as I think they pronounce it in like Hanoi in the north okay um but there’s like but me there’s there’s okay uh and then even like flan at least the places I’ve gone to so they’ll call it like bun flan why and so if I well I was I was trying to figure out what I got really make sense I got a really great answer from Twitter where they were like bun just meant like anything cake like or or doughy and so they were like when you get like bun me literally translates to the baguette right so you have like bun bio which are like these little I would call them a dumpling they’re like steamed dough in these like little cups and they put like the ground shrimp on it oh yeah like slurp it out almost like an oyster I don’t think I’ve ever had that before is what I would call maybe a flat dumpling but maybe it’s not quite a dumpling because you cook the dough separately from the filling and then wrap it and then you wrap it yeah um but but bun flan they’re like in bun and Bun me they’re like okay these are like outside Imports they’re like we already got this word for like kind of cakey bready thing like yeah this is just like bun me bun fun it’s kind of cakey a little bit but then they were also like yo but we also use the word bun to describe car tires like a car tire and uh and a steering wheel both have bun before it interesting and so like you can’t like in any culture try and like officially Define what certain words mean because it’s things evolve over time I think so dumpling is the perfect example of that in the English language for me I think in my brain I always think dumplings is being steamed like an application of water heat but I mean there’s plenty of fried dumplings though yeah I mean like gyoza you drop that right in the fryer with the uncooked yeah you know what I mean but like I feel like that’s just like Saint Louis toasted ravioli oh my God toasted ravioli is a dumpling I think that no I think there’s a lot of there’s a lot of there’s a lot of dumplings that are steamed and then fried yeah like that’s fine but I think dumpling has to have the activation of steam or water in order for it to be considered a dumpling I really interesting I’m trying to think of things that don’t did that that wouldn’t qualify in that category but I mean if you drop a dumpling like um okay so here’s here’s an interesting one sure uh when you think of the classic dumpling what what country do you think of what region do you think of I think I think of pierogies from Russia do you really think of pierogi yeah I think pierogi pierogi is Polish oh sorry whatever yeah but I mean it’s all the same yeah I think of Russian and I think of sour cream and I think yeah a lot of people wouldn’t probably say that that was their first no I mean my my answer is shumai from from China and I would like think of the Cantonese dim sum tradition um but I was recently reading and they’re certainly like fried dumplings and dim sum but uh the classic steamed application which one I prefer yeah totally popular too yeah there is a dish I remember my brother talking about getting this in Australia uh in uh servos they call them in the gas stations servos okay and it’s called dim Sim okay but they just call them Demis because of course because it’s Australia so it’s like hey bro I want to get some Demis at this Servo okay are like these giant overstuffed shumai that you just fold the dumplings and drop them directly in the fryer interesting and I was reading about the history of it and it’s like Chinese people were in Australia during the Gold Rush period and then they all finished you minding all their gold and they were like too old to like do Manual Labor uh in the gold mines they’re like yeah let’s just make some dank Chinese food and people started loving the dumplings but they started frying them instead and like the um I was the Chinese word for double as jiaoza I’ve known they were like they were like people can’t pronounce or shumai there like people couldn’t pronounce chumai so they’re like uh like dim Sim which is a derivation of dim sum from Cantonese in a different dialect but anywhoom this is like a purely fried dumpling as far as I know that to me still satisfies you know the necessities of dumpling Hood I would still call that a dumpling but do you think unless it’s cooked with water it’s not a dumpling I guess that’s I just feel that way I feel like it’s wrong and I and something tells me like frozen dumplings and stuff there has to be some sort of cooking being done beforehand some sort of sure but I don’t know what it is but I think water is what makes it a dumpling not necessarily the wrapping because shumai like you said has like an opening where you can clearly see the filling but so dim Sim I don’t think has an opening dim Sim are purely is open but like hargao doesn’t hargao doesn’t have anything and then what’s the one that’s like that’s it’s like white and it has like a circle inside white has a circle inside the one with the whole shrimpy yeah that’s our gal that’s good yeah I think a tapioca flour that gives it really delicious but yeah I wouldn’t consider a Hot Pocket to fall into the the taxation of a of a dumpling I think it’s a it’s a calzone it’s a cow okay but but obviously look at the dough I know okay one Hot Pockets the original flavor I believe was pepperoni pizza and still their their highest selling flavor to me not even in the top I wouldn’t put in my top ten I don’t have a favorite Hot Pocket flavor because I don’t eat too many how many Hot Pockets have you had in your life 13. you think you think 13’s your total body count on Hot Pockets yes I’m definitely in the thousands good for you I think a thousands that wasn’t like a bragging thing that was just sodium levels okay all in 2015 Nestle cut uh 10 of the sodium levels of Hot Pockets thanks Nestle Pat Nicole yeah Nestle cares about them kids uh but for the record Nestle bought Chef America for 2.6 billion what am I doing with my life dude dude I’m telling you we need to create a Jewish owned Nutella competitor called jutella and then no no hear me out this is my Quick Pitch because Nutella right it’s not a nut butter it’s like eight percent hazelnuts now this one’s sugar and chocolate and palm oil yeah we do that but with other nuts and flavor combination so cool remember that thing I made in the kitchen not not an hour ago yes gingerbread spiced molasses Almond Butter sounds good right we do that we make pistachio and white chocolate Nutella this way no we activate the Jewish Community we get the little oh my God the kosher the kosher associate there’s already kosher Nutella we can’t do it God dang it Josh you already knew that come on bro come on everything we come from such an enterprising people what do you think that you think a Hot Pockets I don’t want to play this game anymore no more kosher games answer the question do you truly in your heart of hearts think that a Hot Pocket you raise a kosher Pig we’d be really Progressive if we could in Israel yeah he raised the pigs on platforms above the ground so their hooves are never touching Israeli soil that’s true smart kosher bacon Josh these are all great ideas at this point I need you to stick to the problem okay okay for once in your life thank you for saying do you think that a Hot Pocket not a hot dog I was just such I’m so sorry for touching your hand that was this was me like intensely thinking about the problems you think in your heart of hearts that a Hot Pocket is a dumpling yes or no I to know how you feel because it’s obviously not how about get to Pi hand pie I think it’s PI right hot bucket hand pie why don’t they just call it a hand pie CES well yeah but I mean it’s a Hot Pockets brand sandwich do they make more money if it’s sandwiches and not pie okay well here’s something interesting so one of their few other true Standalone products because Hot Pockets they got Lean Pockets they got bad face Pockets oh I actually grew up sorry I’ve eaten probably eight Hot Pockets and 992 Lean Pockets in my life because they’re like healthy and to this day I could not tell you the nutritional difference between either I’m sure there is a green pocket and you got that they have croissant Pockets you know they got like the big and bold garlic beefy stuffed Big Boy Hot Pockets now they got all this stuff they even have 11 they have like a more leavened bread form of Hot Pocket which I now that’s a dumpling now that’s a dumpling hear me out yes no think okay thinking back hot pockets are definitely dumplings I can’t make something because you said that steam as being the cooking method is important I guess I did no microwaves work um yeah they heat up the water molecules right that is correct they use they use radiation and microwaves to physically vibrate the water molecules and then so you’re taking an ice cube right you’re taking the frozen broccoli the cheddar the turkey just the the sauce is literally ice cubes in there okay you microwave it that steams it both from the inside and the outside repair sleeve is encapsulating steam you ever think a Hot Pocket of Christmas leave it is wet I ask you to to please uh look back to the tick tock of Emily Mariko where she puts the Ice Cube and the ice cream does Ice Cube doesn’t melt why did that happen wait what did she do with that she put she changed the game she took a bowl of damn rice and then she cut up some salmon in it she put some sriracha and stuff in it mayonnaise she heated it up she put a ice cube in the middle she put paper on top of the Ice Cube she microwaved it from 35 seconds she took off the paper the Ice Cube was still there but the food was still hot wait so what when you say stop talking I’m so sorry why am I touching you all of a sudden this is strange I think my depth perceptions okay one oh my God that rain honey so gorgeous okay out of the way okay great so she what she did was she was trying to trying to oh yeah the ice okay you said the ice one the water molecules vibrate and then they melt and then they get hot but that didn’t happen with Emily mariko’s ice no but the water molecules in the rice literally vibrating down hot what is on top of the ice was just there to make sure the rest of it was moist I think she’s a witch because things you know what I saw okay there’s some like this no it wasn’t safe Senator he was like a he was a pundit political pundit you know he talks to Senators he like talks to centers for a living he’s some sort of TV personality I cannot remember his name it’s on Twitter and he posted a picture that he said this is a recession-proof lunch Nicole listen listen to me it was it was a can of tuna mustard mayonnaise sweet relish Fiber One cereal but I’ll tell you what anyone who eats Fiber One cereal knows that it does not soak up milk it repels it because it’s just fiber but I saw that and I just went it’s Emily Marco meal for divorced dads yeah that’s I respect that that’s true rice salmon mayonnaise spice I’m so close to touching do I like it’s okay you can stay here I’m just kidding rice if I don’t like being close [Music] hey hey hot Doggers midterm elections are coming up on November 8th and a lot of you across the U.S will be voting on some pretty crucial spots in Congress and special elections so vote like a beast is here to help go check out vote likeabeast.com to check your voting status register if you need to and stay informed for the midterm elections vote like a beast.com also has stickers for sale with a hundred percent of our profits going directly to our partners at vote.org be your mythical best by supporting a great non-profit that helps all Americans exercise their right to vote [Music] okay dumplings let’s let’s think about other things that don’t fill the connotation of dumpling because fried Oreo okay so you don’t think it’s like a wedding like it would a wet batter thing be considered I don’t know I’m asking you boss man okay so the American most people think of dumplings as filled uh I typically do sure there’s a very popular American dish that I actually grew up oh my God my dad cooked this dish from what was that what was it it’s called chicken and dumplings chicken oh delicious chicken and dumplings you know whose chicken and dumplings recipe is the best Dolly partons no way yeah way yeah he’s about to leave her for Jolene after she could cook chicken and dumplings like that but those dumplings are literally just leavening agent like flour shortening and milk or water right yes yes yes but they call them dumplings I don’t know I I don’t know why that is called dumplings me neither that’s it because it’s not filled it’s not like a dough because we we like to do with poor Americans yeah dude probably that’s like most of our food history is like the casserole is invented because we had to throw a bunch of crap into a dish I bet that it was just similar in look and feeling to dumplings so they just derived it from that and they’re like they’re not filled but it’ll suffice you know what I mean yeah that’s interesting or or it could be the fact that that was supposed to be the OG meaning of the term dumpling maybe and then we retrofit that because you’re dumping it maybe that’s a dump cake that’s a dump cake where you dump all the things into up and you’re doing it don’t mix it don’t mix it it’s a dump cake do you remember the lady who did The Dump Cake uh infomercials not that don’t make them at all there was a lady she was short and stocky like George Costanza’s mom and she had this beautiful short haircut where it was just like she had like these beautiful curls that just kind of like went over like this and then she would make dump cakes and then she would show us like so you take a box cake mix and then you put uh pineapples and then with the juice and then you don’t mix it and then you just bake it you don’t remember the infomercial no I missed that I remember this the slice-o-matic The Slap Chop don’t came from a big deal Emerald’s pressure cooker that like just oh you just think worst looking food on that I don’t remember the dump cakes my favorite local and my favorite infomercial now it’s for a spurtle oh I know that lady she’s nice there’s it’s like Martha Stewart’s ex head food stylist uh-huh what about now the face of spurtles what are spurtles God I’m glad you asked me what spurtle is so a spurtle is a Scottish porridge stir oh [ ] I know the The Ore it’s like an ore it’s a good battle if she sits her straight face just going you can do anything with a spurtle stir porridge and then she runs out of ideas real quick she’s like uh tenderized meat uh like stir eggs and she’s got this big paddle trying to like make a pan of scrambled eggs oh that’s so embarrassing it’s like listen if you’re trying to sell me a porridge or lady I’m in don’t tell me a spurtle can do anything what I’m saying is if we can consider the dumplings that are in chicken and dumplings which is just like I mean that’s boiled bread though that’s just the boil so good which can you bake chicken I mean no you bake it but it’s cooked with steam you could because you’re baking it on liquid you could potentially put it in the oven at a low temperature and bake it yeah yeah there’s there’s a potential for that that’s potential but you’re still cooking it with the liquid because now I’m thinking that maybe dumplings nude do need to be cooked with liquid and even if you were to fry them do you steam them beforehand you don’t though there’s I don’t I don’t know I don’t think you do you do still need to steam it you can certainly drop raw pasta donut fryer and like that makes a good thing it won’t be good yeah I mean no it’s it’s like good saying pasta does hydrated and if anybody’s made if you’ve deep fried pasta dough it’s not good yeah fresh pasta dough yeah oh not not like dried pasta dough oh okay okay good I mean you’ve made you’ve made dumpling wrappers from scratch no I’m about to expose you no I don’t know how to make dumpling oh yeah you’ve made me make them before yes it made you make them it gave you the opportunity to learn new skills I learned how to make soup dumplings yeah yeah I mean it’s it’s really it’s typically a hot water dough which makes it more elastic better to work with sure um but I mean it’s really the same process as pasta making pasta yeah um to get a really really soft like uh like fine dough you should like Let It rest and then re-need and then rest and let it eat it so it’s all the water molecules are happy with all the all the flour molecules to me it’s the hot water like really allows you to work it oh God I love me a good just Chinese dumpling yeah me too I love xiaolong Val Zhang Bao obviously a dumpling yeah so Xiaolin Bal is probably the quintessential dumpling it is The Dumpling like that’s the dumpling like you have pierogi and all that but I think we just need a new word for because we made this recipe for like strawberry dumplings that we found from a Pioneer cookbook in in whatever and dumpling is obviously like a very American word the word dumpling like that sounds like a very American word may you look up the etymology of dumpling I don’t know why I didn’t do this and normally the guy doing that but instead I was looking at the history of Hot Pockets I don’t know so we need a new word for dumplings and Phillies what are Phillies affiliate Philly is a xiaolong Bao a perog a uh bilmani from Russia that’s not a team finally from Georgia I’m calling those feelings because we need something like there’s nothing in common between a chicken and dumpling dumpling that’s just boiled bread though I mean it’s dough it’s bread but I mean that’s it but it’s it’s not stuffed with anything dumplings are stuffed but those aren’t so we need a new thing damn I think we do what do we call them how how long Okay early 17th century from the rare adjective dump oh okay so dump literally met of the consistency of dough interesting so like this is thumpy you got that juicy dumpy man so like the original this is interesting on dictionary.com they literally separate like they say a small Savory ball of dough usually made with suet which suets what kidney fat yes I believe so delicious so this is a very British thing boiled fried or bacon casserole and then it says in East Asian Cuisine a small item of food consistency consisting of a thin sheet of dough wrapped around to Savory filling and cooked by steam your frying we never should have called those dumplings like jiaoza from China been made for stuffy stuffies because they’ve literally been made for four thousand years right and we’re looking at the origin of the word dumpling goes back to the 1700s and it’s just a ball of dough there’s nothing in common with you know something like uh I don’t know like like bow even if it’s even if it is like uh leavened we fully need to separate those things out yeah and then we get the Hot Pockets but I can’t I can’t I don’t I Hot Pockets I can’t I call it I can’t call them anything other than Hot Pockets I’m calling BS on my dumpling claim in a Hot Pocket but okay okay let’s let’s look at one more thing wait you still don’t believe a ravioli is a dumpling no way in hell what do you mean why not if it’s just like a film like sheet of death it’s the way it looks but what about like man I mean there’s fat right okay what about like angeloti what about all of them it’s primarily the only filled Italian pasta you don’t believe is a dumpling yes that’s Bonkers to me I don’t care ravioli and I am ravioli is literally like Josh you know you and I are very different in a lot of things no no but this is this makes me mad like how fast is this yes how flat does a ravioli have to be flat enough for it to be you know like I’ve had some fat rabbit I mean metzaluna is this yes it actually is because it is ideologically inconsistent and I am ideological I said this is no you’re not I’m saying this is ideologically inconsistent and it’s making me mad Josh if I tell you that a ravioli is a dumpling will you be happy yes a ravioli is not a dumpling oh my God okay I need for my own sanity is dumpling gnocchi is a dumpling but it’s not a stuffy which now we have decided so no I don’t consider ravioli a dumpy in our old definition as if five minutes ago our ravioli is a stuffy a gnocchi is a dumpy so is he nudie I think gummies and stuff people that don’t know what nudie is nudie is uh it got like a hella popular in La restaurants recently it’s like a cooler gnocchi yeah but Nudy’s made with like strained ricotta in like a little bit of flour yeah and then it’s kind of like boiled cheese loaf yeah but I mean I’d consider that a dumpling like that’s that’s that’s a dumpy that’s a dumpy no sorry sorry yeah that’s a dumpy not a stuffy yeah ravioli is a stuffy Josh if we were to do a poll but stuffies have to be steamed they gotta be wet okay Josh what I’m talking about something new now go ahead if we were to do a poll do you think you’d be dumpy or you’d be stuffy I think I’d be dumpy because some juice no you’re kind of you kind of like got the like the people people like Nicole she thick and people are like look at his bony hang heel ass but why I got such fat titties and I’m like that’s right baby I think you’d be dumpy let’s say a Hot Pocket is a calzone yeah I think that I do think that what is a calzone because calzone can’t be a class unto its own right 11 doe that’s flipped over and stuffed but like what other things because I I would not uh and a calzone are very similar they’re very similar and I’d consider an empanada to be a pie right a calzone is a pie a pizza pie you think it counts up but I wouldn’t say it pizza is a pie because of depth when the Moon Pizza is left pizza pie I know he said it I know he said it but I’m saying that was the way they marketed it in early America because people were like circle thing with food in it and they’re like it’s a pie eated a holes trying to feed our Sicilian families out here I do like pizza pie but like a calzone like it being stuffed it’s like a hand pie it’s a it’s a it’s a headpie it’s an empanada you know oh I got it I got it a Hot Pocket it’s a pastelito a Hot Pocket is a Pop-Tart tarte is a French word for pie okay okay okay I’m just helping the people chill out man I’m just helping out our guests we have talked about so much BS on this podcast today we’ve had so many tangits Josh and I were both on vacation for two days yeah so we are like we were we’re trying to readjust but we’re also like goners yeah if you didn’t like this podcast just keep it to yourself but if you did like this podcast give Nicole an icon long story short I would like to I state that a Hot Pocket is a Pop-Tart and that’s where I stand they’re the same I listen I agree that they are the same thing also Hot Pockets they’re like other big property when they were bought by Nestle for 2.6 billion dollars uh was but what are they called toaster pizzas I don’t know I never heard that it was toasted sugar with pizza yeah um anywhoom I think that calzones are the closest thing to Hot Pockets Hot Pockets I I don’t think they’re dumplings I do I think now agree with you one we have our dumpy and stuffy dichotomy that’s nice I’m down to be dumping and stuffing yeah and so like stuffies we got ravioli we got shumai we got like Georgian King Kali we got Armenian was it Monty Monty um absolutely delicious Vietnamese bun bio is now a dumpy not a stuffy which I think is helpful okay great but I think the closest thing a Hot Pocket is too is a calzone which may or may not be a pie maybe we should talk about if a pizza is a pie or not in our next podcast oh geez it’s just the beginning oh man is this gonna be a series oh no no no no more series our brain was hurting dude we’re too dumb to string together thoughts for more than 28 minutes no more serious foreign [Music] Nicole we’ve heard what you and I have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe it’s time for a second we call opinions are like casseroles [Music] Nicole this is a very special opinions are like casseroles that’s right Josh tell them why this is the first time that we are listening to your voices live thank you thank you so much to those who called 833 dog pod one that’s our official sex hotline I mean our official tips hotline for you to give us your hot take opinions please please don’t please no sexy stuff no sexy stuff that’s like that’s now a workplace issue do not uh please no that was a terrible joke but anyway y’all called 833.pod one you left some messages we’re gonna listen to them and talk about them hi Josh and Nicole uh my name is Matt and I’m a hot dogger from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania I grew up here so I’m a little used to some of our weird Regional dishes um but recently on the Bird app I’ve seen a lot of people giving hate to uh Pittsburgh salads which I cannot stand for Pittsburgh salads like wet iceberg lettuce with shredded American cheese um probably carrots or red cabbage and french fries and people are hating on it saying that it’s stupid or looks dumb um the best addition you can have to any salad is ranch but besides that it’s french fries so I just I don’t want to see any more hate for Pittsburgh salads on the Bird app thank you so much love the pod no more hate for Pittsburgh salads no more hate for Pittsburgh regional foods in general oh my gosh what is this okay so the Pittsburgh salad um Danny Palumbo who is from Pittsburgh sports staff writer in front of the show Danny Palumbo was telling me about Pittsburgh salads and he told me I I can’t uh I can’t vouch for the veracity of this but he said it had to do with Lebanese immigrants oh no we’re like opening Kebab shops and stuff and they started like Primanti Brothers is a big Pittsburgh staple we heard Primanti Brothers oh yes I have I went there and I got a Gaba ghoul and egg sandwich they put the fries directly on top of the sandwich with the coleslaw and the tomato and like the coleslaw is kind of sweet and vinegary and very oily and it soaks through the fries and get the Gaba ghoul and egg and it’s a delight so you take that Pittsburgh sandwich from Primanti Brothers you turn that into a salad which you know if you’re talking about putting fries into stuff you go to a lot of like spots in the Middle East I mean I’m thinking Israel they’ll put the fried potatoes they’ll put the fries like right in the sandwich yeah right on top of the plate it’s almost treated like a condiment to me the Pittsburgh salad it is not an Abomination from just a hard-working steel Town it is a beautiful cross-cultural example and an objectively delicious food who doesn’t want I mean wet fries come at me I love them um I love the idea of putting French fries and meat on a salad I mean I love a good steak salad I’ve always been a steak salad girl um yeah sign me up where can I get this in Los Angeles I don’t know I’m gonna make it myself I guess I don’t love the cheese on top why would you look in a picture show me I’m looking at a bunch of pictures yeah I’m not passionate about the shredded cheese on top but I would love to put french fries and grilled steak on a regular ass salad um the maybe okay if there is one Pittsburgh Abomination we might have to look at the concept of Pittsburgh rare have you heard of that no what’s that it’s curd rare what’s Pittsburgh and all these weird foods it’s very rare is when you order a steak that is some would call it blue rare I’ve I’ve had blue steaks before it’s a blue States I mean third raw piece of me this is to the point where it’s physically cold in the middle um yeah as long as you’re searing the outside that’s where all the bacteria is I mean like I’m sure there’s other risks you know whatever uh you know don’t come for me if you don’t get the E coli but like uh I don’t know if I just want to chew through that much raw beef I or if it is I want it like sliced thin for me I would eat well when you think about a steak there’s a special kind of steak in uh in Italy that is very very very very rare just like this yeah it’s like incredibly where I think it’s called steak Florentine or something like a steak Valentine something Florentine that’s a big thing they’re known for their their like T-Bones or Porter houses yeah whatever and those are like blue in the middle like though that is a blue ass steak I heard Julia telling me she went to Florence and she tried to get like the best Fiorentina yeah um and they have like a special type of cow they’re called a kianina yeah yeah very very special yeah yeah and she was like yeah we went to this place and they put like a blueberry sauce on it and I was like it’s weird oh that’s another place I know exactly what she’s talking really I know exactly who was in Florence I don’t know and I was like that’s a trip man let’s listen to another one hey Nicole and Josh with this Jenna from Philly and I just listened to your episode what’s the best ice cream flavor and I think the best ice cream flavor is actually water ice or water ice you do so much with it ice work with Rita’s and we used to do like cookies and cream water ice chocolate you can get fruity like cherry or passion fruit or something and yeah I think that’s the best I usually want you guys to talk about it this amazing thing called Water Ice um yeah love the show I love water what is the difference between Italian ice and water ice is there any difference okay so I was literally just thinking about this I think if you were to trace it there’s spots in Rome we’ve all seen the travel shows that make different type of granita sure yeah a granita is literally an Italian ice so you get these like Sicilian immigrants in places like Philly big Italian history in Philly who are you know trying to describe what a Grenada is like it’s an Italian ice it’s a frozen dessert it’s got flavor in it and then I for whatever reason I couldn’t tell you when it happened in Philly specifically or in all of like eastern PA that that tri-state area they start calling it water ice and water interesting water ice of course water it’s literally how my dad from Allentown pronounced the word and now Rita’s has started franchising around so there’s Rita’s Water Ice in L.A literally like I’ve seen a few Rita’s like 50 yards in my apartment I can walk there nobody Google where I wasn’t gonna say that because I don’t want people to find you but yeah my favorite is you get I don’t even love Frozen Custard it’s all just a little too thick for my taste I’m a I’m a bigger but they do a thing at Rita’s where they take the uh the Water Ice and they layer it with Frozen Custard so you’re getting that’s the best of both worlds baby I can get that out of Rita’s where’s the nearest Rita’s to this office not the one near my home far out in Woodland Hills Maggie cut that whole thing all right let’s get another opinion this is great your voices are all so beautiful by the way this is awesome to hear you amazing amazing hi my name is Monica um I just started listening to your podcast probably earlier this month but are we in August and I have been I just caught up to the very end um I I’ve literally been listening to it every day multiple podcasts a day while I do just everything and it’s great I’ve learned so much about food I’ve gotten so much of the appreciation for so many more Foods especially fast food which is really interesting to me like things like I would just think those things are terrible but keep giving me appreciation for like the understanding of just where they come from and the history and just so many different things um I’m currently drinking coffee with my favorite protein powder for the first time after hearing Josh talk about it and how he shook it with ice and um it’s delicious and there’s just so many little things that you guys have talked about and taught me and I love it anyways you guys are great thanks Monica are you cutie thanks for listening um coffee protein powder I’ve done that before I think we’re making the world worse sometimes because all we’ve been that’s what we’re gonna do is start proteining up her coffee is that bad food no okay well I mean I I don’t know I think it’s good I think protein is good for the body I think maybe people are looking for you know a good way to get it and that’s easy to do I put collagen in my coffee sometimes okay Haley Haley Bieber uh who who’s the one that has the arrow on smoothie they have like a smoothie in it yeah I I would never ever ever ever ever spend 21 on a smoothie because I don’t care that much but sometimes I do put a little bit of collagen enzyme sometimes I put protein powder in there and I shake it like she said I used to do that back in the day when I cared more if that is the Legacy that we leave on this Earth getting people to add protein powder to their coffee that’s good enough for me and that’s that’s more than 99 of human history can say yeah because you always built to school now we got people a little bit more swollen a little bit more caffeinated Stevie’s friend Negan opened to school well good for you listen to the best friend’s back all right available which is incredible hey Josh Nicole um I love the podcast anyway my name is Matthew I’m from Central New York my hot opinion is that some desserts don’t need salt I I love cooking but just some desserts really don’t need salt I I think brownies are good without salt because the chocolate is nice and indulgent anyways so I feel as if that is a good uh uh opinion for you guys to debate upon um all right have a good one bye pleasure podcast Nicole is right now is that a child sounds like a child I love you thank you so much for for your listen for your for listening and your opinion yeah well and Matthew you absolutely roll and I don’t think either of us expected to get as emotional as we are from listening to people’s voices it’s really special it’s really special uh but now roasted Nicole get out of here salt and dessert is what makes desserts delicious the salt helps bring up all the other flavors the sugar can mute it you’re wrong but let me tell you sometimes a regular brownie without stuff salt and stuff in it I agree like a salty cheesecake no thanks like a salty ice cream sometimes like I understand where you’re coming from but salted desserts salty desserts are quite delicious I I agree with Matthew here and I think chocolate no okay I will tell you I agreeing literally after last night because he’s a child I had a change of heart last night I went to I don’t even I’m not going to name the ice cream establishment because I don’t want to give them the time of the day I had one of their new flavors and it was like a cheese and apple pie flavored and this thing was so freaking salty that I was like this ruined my ice cream and I generally love I agree with you that like adding enough salt to just up the flavor levels a little bit almost an imperceptible amount to where you don’t taste salty it just tastes bad yeah I do think that chocolate probably has the best chance to not need any salt because like you said it is already indulgent it has such a complex flavor profile too you know I mean I mean chocolate is already bitter it’s already earthy it’s already incredibly aromatic would you consider salt any of those things no no you’re oh well which is why salt will help meld all those things together yeah but like I milk chocolate doesn’t need it stop putting stop putting the salt on top of the brown don’t stop don’t put the salt on top don’t put the salt on top of the cookies don’t stop just season your cookies Matthew I think you should do an experiment though I’d say try one brownie recipe no salt then add like you know just a pinch just add a little pinch to the other one yeah try it see if you taste the difference because I’m curious do it and call us back and then we will review that opinion and then call US every week and redo the experiment until you find the exact person no no ratio for a brownie just call us and tell us how your day was at school that’s fine hey Josh and Nicole big fan of the podcast uh my name is Julia and I’m calling because I know you guys have talked about screws in the past on the podcast and growing up my dad used to always bring prunes with us whenever we travel specifically the time that you can get that are individually wrapped oh yeah and you would keep them in his pockets on trips and in the airplane you call them pocket Tunes great tasty little snack help with your digestion when you’re traveling and I just think more people should know about this so hope it helps you out on your next trip bye Sun sweet ones Sun sweet ones we I was raised on those yeah say my grandma had them uh because one prunes when you get them in the packaging that that isn’t individually packaged when you get like a bucket of prunes like I do they just stick together they get you sticky you get like the little uh prune wrapping individual you like kind of like like a yogurt you suck the prune out of it it’s really good no prune stickiness on your hands it’s incredible that is a good dad that’s a good dad that’s a dad that cares about your tummy that’s important I agree with that I can’t wait to have children and try and use my knowledge of social psychology to trick them into thinking that like fruits and vegetables are just good things which I imagine not a lot of people like did you grow up thinking like yucky vegetables yucky fruit never yeah that makes sense my parents cultural difference my parents never said food like fruits and vegetables are yucky I was force-fed vegetables from a very young but I mean did you ever did you ever not enjoy it remember like I don’t want that type I don’t want that I’m sure I did but I was never a picky eater like my mom said the first thing you ate was mashed potatoes with avocado wow like and that was my first meal and like my mom was a stay-at-home mom so she would like make me weird concoctions and she just feed me like all right I love that but no I think like eating like prunes are cool they’re cool and they’re delicious and they’re sweet and they’re like very good for you calories nutrient dense good stuff pocket prunes dang I’m in Julia you rule your dad rules still tell them I say what’s up pocket prunes all right let’s do one more one more one more uno mas one for the road okay first of all that is like a great voice recording to like start with um but I have like a unpopular opinion so I love crunchy tips Ahoy dipped in like the spicy nacho cheese sauce I don’t know it’s something about the spicy cheese mixed with the chocolatey fake artificial cookie has to be the crunchy one um I think it was like a thing where we ate that at parties in like Pre-K and stuff and I kind of secretly love to still eat it today I love y’all oh we love you too and I forgot our voice message is it’s pretty sultry it’s pretty sultry so enjoy everyone who calls 833 dogpod one uh have you ever done this and I feel like I know the exact nacho cheese she’s talking about I’ve been talking about Tostitos queso this is something that you do at a you ever had like a double dare part not like a Fear Factor party yeah yeah this is something that your friends would make you do out of Fear Factor like oh my God like like put like the tomato and then and then a goldfish and then like a bunch of ranch and he’s like Ugh Britney you’re crazy like this is what this is this is what this is but she she legitimately enjoys it do you think there’s culinary Merit in this Nicole a little I can I can taste both things in my mouth and it tastes like a kid’s birthday party yeah I get it I understand why it exists I don’t like it but I understand why you do it I’m glad you mentioned the like artificial Chips Ahoy flavor like it’s almost as if there’s something that exists called like cookie extract cookie that they put they inject into chips the whole way I love the chemically nature of a chewy chipsahoy oh God the chewy Chips Ahoy they have science that it is Frankenstein’s monster it’s literally I I looked up the science behind it it’s like difference in using fructose versus dextrose that do they put plastic in it I don’t think so I’m down to eat that plastic oh yeah whatever I don’t care how many microplastics how many macro Plastics how many mega Plastics end up in my stool I’m in I don’t think I’m ever gonna start dipping Chips Ahoy into nacho cheese I would easily do it once I cannot imagine that I’d enjoy it yeah Oreos and salsa verde so I know sign me up oh man and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich and thank you so much for sending in your voicemails 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